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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: musclecenter on February 11, 2012, 04:33:03 AM
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part 1,
part 2,
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Didn't watch
LMAO at the "Cardboard Skyline backdrop" to boost production value
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part 1,
part 2,
3 dbol a day :)
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3 dbol a day :)
3 bottles dbol a day
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(http://6d.img.v4.skyrock.net/6dd/milonko/pics/2704181790_1.jpg)
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He used to like nandralone in the 70s
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Says one shot a week in that video. I believe him. ;)
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He had that mainstream appealing look that appeared easily attainable , and everyday easy to maintain physique
But, he probably did what viator, coe, dickerson,zane etc did
Was known for extreme weight looses. Same old story, if you can't get big to stand next to the big boys, claim natural, or almost natural
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"i was abused regularly"
stopped watching there
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good build when he leaned out...
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Aging is a bitch.
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back when people trained calves
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back when people trained calves
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ezIfB3E_90w/S_lmzgOPgiI/AAAAAAAALUI/RuHn77rxEV0/s1600/Calves+Erik+Fankhouser+Ben+Jeff+Long.jpg)
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he was really good. classical good, which is rare. and really good calves. if you think you can get built like that from a bottle, you are incorrect.
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he was really good. classical good, which is rare. and really good calves. if you think you can get built like that from a bottle, you are incorrect.
back in the day they used to train 3-4 hours a day to get that dense classical look
nowadays insulina and the REAL igf fucking up all these guts on wheels
generation nothingness
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Calves = all genes look at the guy in the middle short calves, Most Blacks tend to have high calves but can run like a mofo (no racism). I have a friend that has 19 inch calves and has never done a calf raise in his life. Look at Wolf he has high calves insertions you can only do so much with that..
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back in the day they used to train 3-4 hours a day to get that dense classical look
nowadays insulina and the REAL igf fucking up all these guts on wheels
generation nothingness
;D ;D ;D
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tall, small waist, broad shoulders. guys like Reeves, didn't have to have a ton of muscle, it just plain looked good on them. then, if you have the genetic calves like reeves and davis, you are among the very elite.
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He had a great physique and a knock out wife back in the day. There was on tricep shot photo of him that was amazing how ripped he was. He also drove around in high end cars too. Maybe the gym buisness was was making him a lot of money back then.
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He had a great physique and a knock out wife back in the day. There was on tricep shot photo of him that was amazing how ripped he was. He also drove around in high end cars too. Maybe the gym buisness was was making him a lot of money back then.
Do you mean this one of his before and after pics.
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Do you mean this one of his before and after pics.
Thats not Alex23 on the left.
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Looks more like 250-260 in the before, but still impressive.
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He never recovered after he missed that black and Dennis Taylor potted it.
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He never recovered after he missed that black and Dennis Taylor potted it.
forgot to adjust his two stage eyeglasses
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Why is it that on some of these youtube videos my sound comes in poorly?
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Not as good as this Steve Davis:
(http://www.online-poker-index.com/images/599.jpg)
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Why is it that on some of these youtube videos my sound comes in poorly?
^^
Get a JBL DOME 360 speaker, you'll hear EVERYTHING in minute detail. Since I got mine, I threw my regular speakers in the trash forever....
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forgot to adjust his two stage eyeglasses
haha, an american knows about snooker?
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;D
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He had a great physique and a knock out wife back in the day. There was on tricep shot photo of him that was amazing how ripped he was. He also drove around in high end cars too. Maybe the gym buisness was was making him a lot of money back then.
;D tri shot
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;D tri shot
I remember that shot.
First pic I ever saw of cross striated triceps!
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I remember that shot.
First pic I ever saw of cross striated triceps!
if i remember they used to say andres cahlings had the most striations in different bodyparts than anyone.
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look at pics of andreas and he's still pretty striated in his old age.
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Excellent and informative interview with Ric and guest, as usual. As I'm interested in seventies BB, and the fact that Ric really knows what he's talking about makes these vids stand out. No quick soundbite stuff, they take their time and are open and realistic about what they did and how they trained. Thank you for posting!
Good no nonsense quality talks.
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A poor man's Frank Zane
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A poor man's Frank Zane
good observation. :o right down to the wife.
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Excellent and informative interview with Ric and guest, as usual. As I'm interested in seventies BB, and the fact that Ric really knows what he's talking about makes these vids stand out. No quick soundbite stuff, they take their time and are open and realistic about what they did and how they trained. Thank you for posting!
Good no nonsense quality talks.
Rics vids are great.
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Rick's corner has the best interviews. I'm so glad he doing it.
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Ric once said that Mike O'Hearn was natural. I don't know how much credibility he has.
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Ric once said that Mike O'Hearn was natural. I don't know how much credibility he has.
more than you?
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A shot week, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig ht.
Cool guy though.
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A shot week, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig ht.
Cool guy though.
Robby Robinson claimed to have won Mr World after just one shot of Primobolan ::)
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What's his age?
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The 2nd part is pretty decent. Ric does good work.
The drug he couldn't remember was probably DNP, Jeff Feliciano(who later worked for Weider) was a early dealer in DNP, if I remember correctly, he had all types of odd drug combinations.
Davis is 65ish and recovering from cancer.
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The 2nd part is pretty decent. Ric does good work.
The drug he couldn't remember was probably DNP, Jeff Feliciano(who later worked for Weider) was a early dealer in DNP, if I remember correctly, he had all types of odd drug combinations.
Davis is 65ish and recovering from cancer.
Wow, he looks younger (facially). Most bodybuilders from the 70s look 10-15 years older
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haha, an american knows about snooker?
haha, i'm a Canadian, and have run 72 on a 6 x 12!!
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The 2nd part is pretty decent. Ric does good work.
The drug he couldn't remember was probably DNP, Jeff Feliciano(who later worked for Weider) was a early dealer in DNP, if I remember correctly, he had all types of odd drug combinations.
Davis is 65ish and recovering from cancer.
feliciano had a column in muscle builder/power. he raved about the european drug bolasterone for months saying it wasn't in the US. meanwhile he was bottling thousands of vials of it himself. when everyone was crazy for it, he flooded the market with the stuff he made himself and made a fortune. ( like an original bill phillips)
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haha, i'm a Canadian, and have run 72 on a 6 x 12!!
were you dressed like your countryman ;D 72 is impressive
and if you havnt seen this you need to, greatest potting display of all time
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Why is it that on some of these youtube videos my sound comes in poorly?
I had to use my sons Ipod ear phones to hear it.
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were you dressed like your countryman ;D 72 is impressive
and if you havnt seen this you need to, greatest potting display of all time
nope, i dress like a slob everywhere i go, lol. Cliff Thorburn is a Canadian that went over and beat everybody at snooker for a while. pretty unheard of. the people that ran the tournaments i played in said i had the talent to be world champ, but i always caved in the fiansl. woulda needed a sports psychologist. i had better talent for pool, snooker, 9-ball than i did for bodybuilding.
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The 2nd part is pretty decent. Ric does good work.
The drug he couldn't remember was probably DNP, Jeff Feliciano(who later worked for Weider) was a early dealer in DNP, if I remember correctly, he had all types of odd drug combinations.
Davis is 65ish and recovering from cancer.
I had some in the 80's from Jeff. It was called Hexalon or Hexalin, and yes, I believe it was DNP.
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nope, i dress like a slob everywhere i go, lol. Cliff Thorburn is a Canadian that went over and beat everybody at snooker for a while. pretty unheard of. the people that ran the tournaments i played in said i had the talent to be world champ, but i always caved in the fiansl. woulda needed a sports psychologist. i had better talent for pool, snooker, 9-ball than i did for bodybuilding.
Same, im a 1 visit player on US tables, 1-2 visits on uk pool to clear.
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Same, im a 1 visit player on US tables, 1-2 visits on uk pool to clear.
you won't even see snooker pockets on tables here anymore, except maybe in legions (bars for veterans). they seem to have the old 6 x 12s.
but i guess this is a bit of a thread hijack, so should leave it at that.
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I had some in the 80's from Jeff. It was called Hexalon or Hexalin, and yes, I believe it was DNP.
Yeah, Hexalon, I just looked it up. There was a battle between him and Duchaine and a few others about reintroducing DNP, and Feliciano was against it. Which made some folks bring up his Hexalon(DNP) sales.
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With all due respect to Davis, I think he was a walking pharmacy, and he seemed to have some foggy recollection that steroids were involved.
maybe 3 weeks, or 4 weeks or ......how 'bout 52 weeks.......
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back when people trained calves
fixed
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fixed
perfect
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Awesome.
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Robby Robinson claimed to have won Mr World after just one shot of Primobolan ::)
Maybe robby shared that shot with steve?
And yrs later, a baby priest found and played with the used needle
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Maybe robby shared that shot with steve?
And yrs later, a baby priest found and played with the used needle
;D
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With all due respect to Davis, I think he was a walking pharmacy, and he seemed to have some foggy recollection that steroids were involved.
maybe 3 weeks, or 4 weeks or ......how 'bout 52 weeks.......
of course
But, he still built a great physique
As said, guys actually trained and dieted then
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Excellent and informative interview with Ric and guest, as usual. As I'm interested in seventies BB, and the fact that Ric really knows what he's talking about makes these vids stand out. No quick soundbite stuff, they take their time and are open and realistic about what they did and how they trained. Thank you for posting!
Good no nonsense quality talks.
ric drasin posts here as maxrep, right?
Maybe he can enlighten us as to what Samir did between 81 and 82, up to 81 he looked smooth, round faced and bloated
From 82 onwards what a huge difference, and 83 he peaked but still looked great later on until 89 or so,
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part 3,
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fella used what weall use,, testosterona,, trenbolona ,, masterona,, nandrolona ,, equipona,,primbolana, dianabola,, anadrola list go on and on
the build on him when he is in condition is built that is direct cause of testosteroan trenbolona and masterona with some equipona+ primbolana mixed into it ...ratios changes
the only diff is he had flat muscles lol thats why coudnt climb up and ofcourse no hgh and insulina like today ...but even if he had hgh and insulina like today he would look more like ummmm let me think for a quick second here.... ummmmmmmmm
dan hill : ) with frank zane development since! this fella actualy trained lol
and this was history of bodybuild 141 in 60 seconds equal 2 elective credit points tward your degree in bodybuild
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3 dbol a day :)
Remember the dbols back then were 25mg. So 3 tabs was 75 mg. Arnie was taking 4 or 5 a day. Sounds about right. A lot more simple back then.
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Ric Drasin should have provided Steve Davis a chair of similar height to his own.
Davis is probably taller than Drasin but looks considerably shorter throughout the interview.
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Remember the dbols back then were 25mg.
I don't think they were...
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Drasin is not MAX REP......
Dave Young is MAX REP.
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fella used what weall use,, testosterona,, trenbolona ,, masterona,, nandrolona ,, equipona,,primbolana, dianabola,, anadrola list go on and on
the build on him when he is in condition is built that is direct cause of testosteroan trenbolona and masterona with some equipona+ primbolana mixed into it ...ratios changes
the only diff is he had flat muscles lol thats why coudnt climb up and ofcourse no hgh and insulina like today ...but even if he had hgh and insulina like today he would look more like ummmm let me think for a quick second here.... ummmmmmmmm
dan hill : ) with frank zane development since! this fella actualy trained lol
and this was history of bodybuild 141 in 60 seconds equal 2 elective credit points tward your degree in bodybuild
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ahahahahahaha
except that he was competing in late 70's and trenbolone came out to market in late 80's.
you don't have a fucking clue, do you?
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fella used what weall use,, testosterona,, trenbolona ,, masterona,, nandrolona ,, equipona,,primbolana, dianabola,, anadrola list go on and on
the build on him when he is in condition is built that is direct cause of testosteroan trenbolona and masterona with some equipona+ primbolana mixed into it ...ratios changes
the only diff is he had flat muscles lol thats why coudnt climb up and ofcourse no hgh and insulina like today ...but even if he had hgh and insulina like today he would look more like ummmm let me think for a quick second here.... ummmmmmmmm
dan hill : ) with frank zane development since! this fella actualy trained lol
and this was history of bodybuild 141 in 60 seconds equal 2 elective credit points tward your degree in bodybuild
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LOL..what the fuck are you talking about? This was the 70's dude. LOL. I haven't commented too much on your posts but this one warranted a comment.
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Remember the dbols back then were 25mg. So 3 tabs was 75 mg. Arnie was taking 4 or 5 a day. Sounds about right. A lot more simple back then.
I only remember d-bol being 5mg back then. (70's)
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LOL..what the fuck are you talking about? This was the 70's dude. LOL. I haven't commented too much on your posts but this one warranted a comment.
Yer, he clearly got no clue.
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Drasin is not MAX REP......
Dave Young is MAX REP.
oh, ok
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LOL..what the fuck are you talking about? This was the 70's dude. LOL. I haven't commented too much on your posts but this one warranted a comment.
he said i was on prohormones in 1979
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ahahahahahaha
except that he was competing in late 70's and trenbolone came out to market in late 80's.
you don't have a fucking clue, do you?
didn't negma make it in the late 70s
I heard nubret was coining it, bringing in parabolan back then
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ric drasin posts here as maxrep, right?
Maybe he can enlighten us as to what Samir did between 81 and 82, up to 81 he looked smooth, round faced and bloated
From 82 onwards what a huge difference, and 83 he peaked but still looked great later on until 89 or so,
i read that nubret had him on a drug that contained estrogen. he stopped using it and dried right out.
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he said i was on prohormones in 1979
Hahahhah, really?
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he said i was on prohormones in 1979
lol
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Hahahhah, really?
yes, a high school pic of me basement training.
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he said i was on prohormones in 1979
lol ::)
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ahahahahahaha
except that he was competing in late 70's and trenbolone came out to market in late 80's.
you don't have a fucking clue, do you?
are you felas for real? do you knwo who you talk to here? i dont get it do i alwys need to bring corection to your stupid postings? forgod sake read the damn bible,, it wil be in good language on webpage...read it!
trenbolona wa sin use since early 70s by all bodybuildrs,,PARABOLAN FROM NEGMA = TRENBOLONA ACE,, forget the smal detail of 2 inject for week its all the same thing ,, parabolana even slihtly better,, over all same thing ,, veterinary drug available for bodybuild usage ince 70s and early ! 70s
this is fucking joke i swear
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I only remember d-bol being 5mg back then. (70's)
saying the fella who said hgh was available for usage...in the 70s by some,,, coach stop with the twiting,,everything i write is true ,, this is nto some balonie i made up ,, no reason to ,, this is real deal drugs ued in the 70s ,, both vet and pharma grade ,, all were used,, one look into franco before and after will tell you this estrogenic female looking fella was on all vet drugs he could get his hands on
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Yer, he clearly got no clue.
not onlyh do i hav ea clue i actualy competed in the top with the fellas who use all of those products ,, you abue the fact i dont have much time to come here and bring balonie information that 1,, i never said...2,, quote me wrong,, read the bible! this is your shortest fastet way to pro card or atleast if real bad structure...to top amatuer,,,today bad structure count less so profesional card after readoing bible will be on your dinner table wether in the masters or in the opens this you wil hav eto be the judge of
just dont twist my worst tryin to decredit gh15 only because i dont hav emuch time ti respons,, my elfs dont see everything and they also are busy ,,i hope the good fellas among you can actualy corect those misguided souls who really LIE about what gh15 wrote
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he said i was on prohormones in 1979
no i said you were on prohormones in the late 80s picturres or was it mid 80s it was close to the 90s when i said it ,, not that skinny highschol picturr of you when you flex and look liek skinny batman,, not that picture friend,,
BE ACCURATE WHEN QUOTING ME!
if you think i said it about 1979 picture bring this picture here and show me my quote then i wil rspond,,
if i said you were on pro hormone trust me you were! on pro hormone
there were many kind of pro hormones,, hopefuly if van b not too busy he can come and corect shis misguided souls once again ,, im just too busy to pay atention to every posting now day
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i read that nubret had him on a drug that contained estrogen. he stopped using it and dried right out.
Lol
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one of the prise you pay when you become extremly famous is fellas quoting you wrong,,i just have no time to fix this thing with the quoting me wrong,, i learned to accept it!,, i expect my pupils to know how to read past it
i do nto appreciate being twisted as in my words being twisteed ,,, wether its done to discredit gh15 or for whatever reason even if for joke...it is worse than actualy saying a lie of your own ,, reason is the bible is very very long,, fellas take time to read it all and all the posting inside are not only about bodybuild...so it take time and especialy with the speling its hard,,but you wil get bible with good speling very soon ,,
if you quote me try to quote me SEMI right,,i realy dont ask for nothing else
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are you felas for real? do you knwo who you talk to here? i dont get it do i alwys need to bring corection to your stupid postings? forgod sake read the damn bible,, it wil be in good language on webpage...read it!
trenbolona wa sin use since early 70s by all bodybuildrs,,PARABOLAN FROM NEGMA = TRENBOLONA ACE,, forget the smal detail of 2 inject for week its all the same thing ,, parabolana even slihtly better,, over all same thing ,, veterinary drug available for bodybuild usage ince 70s and early ! 70s
this is fucking joke i swear
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"Do you know who you're talking too?" LOL.
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oh, ok
Correct!
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"Do you know who you're talking too?" LOL.
haha, nope, we have no fukking clue!!! (well, i do, but i promised not to say)
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Are you guys saying GH 15 isnt a pro, and his posts are a little unbelivable . ;D
Glad to see that theres a few of us on hear over 210lbs with low bodyfat who arent on 10,000 mg a week along with 100 iu of HGH.
The Dbol was 5mg and was made by Ciba back in Steves day, I would say his physique was built from mainly Primobolan Deca and Dbol as they were teh staples back in his day, The reason he looked flat was because he along like lots of other guys didnt use much or any test back then as they were so anti water retention. Some notables who did use androgens back then were Viator and Mentzer, you can see teh difference in their physiques, true anadrol thickness, test really didnt come into it until the early 80s and then mainly only off season from my experaince especially with teh guys who used to be power lifters as well.
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Correct!
you've spoken of bannout before, you knew/know him well, am I right?
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are you felas for real? do you knwo who you talk to here? i dont get it do i alwys need to bring corection to your stupid postings? forgod sake read the damn bible,, it wil be in good language on webpage...read it!
trenbolona wa sin use since early 70s by all bodybuildrs,,PARABOLAN FROM NEGMA = TRENBOLONA ACE,, forget the smal detail of 2 inject for week its all the same thing ,, parabolana even slihtly better,, over all same thing ,, veterinary drug available for bodybuild usage ince 70s and early ! 70s
this is fucking joke i swear
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ROFL
Parabolan from Negma wasn't available in 80's ahahahha.
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Parabolan wasnt tren acetate either from memory, It was tren something else and came in a 30ml bottle with a funny diosage like 62.5mg per ml, French Vet drug i seem to recall, was around from the mid 80s
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76.5mg, 50mg of tren after the hex ester is accounted for. :D
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this is wacked for me to even respond to this ,, its bunch of idiotic statments trying to do whatever ,, you dont get it im already in history my name is biger than any bodybuild out there,, no mater how you say it or how hard you try ...you wil be just another dog barking in the alley ,,
the truth of the mater is
trenbolona was available to use since early 70s ,, infact late 60s!
the second fact is you need to be consiatant on hormones none stop to get anywhere in bodybuild,, and even this retard from 70s was! he just ws flat muscle,, muscles were not good insertions ...happens
you try to discredit someone who can not be discredit ..this is the main problem here,,
this is why i said i dont even know why i answer ,, i do it out of stimulation i like being stimulated
but to actual write some of the balonie you write whern you know well you are all HORMONE addicts lol its quite embaresing for yourself to do since you are the ones who need to look YORU OWN SELF in the eye when entering bathroom and look in mirrir,,
but to be quite honest...most of you dont look to mirror when entering bathroom since it wil start an ocd obsession that will last for few hours and you have no time you wil be late to work so you try to avoid lookin in the mirror and walk with your back twards mirror on the way to take your shower ... in the night its diff story then you have time to do the ocd with mirror
now you smile ovet ehre i know ,, but what i say is 100% accurate for I LIVE THIS LIFE STYLE ,, this is the worst thing you have with gh15...gh15 is a bodybuilder you cant sell gh15 no balonie
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Parabolan wasnt tren acetate either from memory, It was tren something else and came in a 30ml bottle with a funny diosage like 62.5mg per ml, French Vet drug i seem to recall, was around from the mid 80s
it was tren hex ,, you are embaresing yourself now ,, parabolan was availble mid 70s for everyone and before in the beggining of 70s to top bodybuild,, inaddition it wss in cirulating until early 90s ,,in addition! trenbolona and parabolan on paper not same but in action similar,, i prefer trenbolona ace for the simple fact that its little faster in action ,, but both were awesome when both were around,, now you only hav etrenbolona ace,,
again you are embaresing yourslef ,,remember who you talk to here,, dont abuse the fact i have no time right now to concentrate on specific answers,,
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FILT
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Parabolan wasnt tren acetate either from memory, It was tren something else and came in a 30ml bottle with a funny diosage like 62.5mg per ml, French Vet drug i seem to recall, was around from the mid 80s
Finaplex pellets.
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again before ei hve to go i will make sure to corect one more thing ,,
when you say there are emore of us here that are over 210lb in codntion on less than 10000 mg of products,, and less than 100 iu gh ,,
where did i ever say you need 10 k mg products? where did i say you need 100 iu gh or even 50 iu ,,
you need to realy be real with yourself,, i understand this is mental deasease bodybuild,, but gh15 never said 10 k mg,, and never said even 40 iu gh ,, i said the top use 30-40 iu and this is top of top
you really just quote me wrong,, the few of you who do because many quote me rgith,,,
i got the youngsters in their innocence years,, they were not spoild ,, some of you here like honest who came out of no where again BLOW where evr the wind blows....they are already rotten and destroyed from years upon years of being part of system of coruption ,, this is what i also said about arneld mike,, it is all same thing,, i like disagreement when the disagreement party know what they talk about...van b when he tell me something i will listen because he says it like it is,, disgusted too
but we have this new phenomenon of real meantly sick fellas who really try to down the importance of hormones in bodybuild and their own addicition and YES it is addiction,,i will not let it go and you will see on webpage alwys will say the truth about this
its a shame that on GETBIG we have minority who realy think thsi is not all about hormones because it is majority 90% about hormones,,
you take the hormones from the bodybuild! = you stay with no bodybuild
end of argument
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Finaplex pellets.
poweders too friend,,reason why everyone now day is bodybuild is becaue they found china and found way to the powders,, before hand it was available ,, the poweders not just created themselfs out of no where in 2008 lol ,, poweders my friend POWDERS ,, were much more pure back in day too
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Veterinary use of Trenbolone has been around since the late 60's, and took off mid 70's. Finajet is a Trenbolone from the late 70's.
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poweders too friend,,reason why everyone now day is bodybuild is becaue they found china and found way to the powders,, before hand it was available ,, the poweders not just created themselfs out of no where in 2008 lol ,, poweders my friend POWDERS ,, were much more pure back in day too
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It was never referred to as "tren" back then. Just "Fin" (from what I can remember) we used in combination with Blosterone. I used it in low doses for about 4-6 six week because it too expensive. But "tren" as we know it never existed.
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2 years ago, my cousin came flew out to San Diego to spend a week training with Frank Zane at his Zane Haven compound in San Diego. I met him down in San Diego and picked him up one afternoon after he met Zane for breakfast. Later that day, my cousin told me that Zane had said that I could come down to watch their afternoon training session that same day. Lets fast forward a bit. After watching my cousin and Zane train together( that is an entirely different thread), we spoke a short bit about anabolics. Zane pretty much said that all of the guys in the late 60's and the entire 70's used the same thing with mild variations such as dosages and cycle length. Zane said that all that was ever used during these days was, Dianabol, Anavar, Deca, Primobolan Acetate, Durabolin and Nilevar. Zane said that nobody used testosterone in the 70's in bodybuilding. And nobody had ever heard of growth hormone. He said he never knew of anybody taking more than 2-3 compounds at a time. This pretty much coincides with anything Ric Drasin has said about 1970's steroid usage. Ric trained with Arnold and the guy has no reason to lie about it. Ric said Arnold liked Primobolan Acetate in his basic cycles. Pretty simple shit. Moron GH15 wants everybody to believe that every current steroid, Prohormone and GH was being used back in the 70's. The man is a complete moron and nothing more.
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2 years ago, my cousin came flew out to San Diego to spend a week training with Frank Zane at his Zane Haven compound in San Diego. I met him down in San Diego and picked him up one afternoon after he met Zane for breakfast. Later that day, my cousin told me that Zane had said that I could come down to watch their afternoon training session that same day. Lets fast forward a bit. After watching my cousin and Zane train together( that is an entirely different thread), we spoke a short bit about anabolics. Zane pretty much said that all of the guys in the late 60's and the entire 70's used the same thing with mild variations such as dosages and cycle length. Zane said that all that was ever used during these days was, Dianabol, Anavar, Deca, Primobolan Acetate, Durabolin and Nilevar. Zane said that nobody used testosterone in the 70's in bodybuilding. And nobody had ever heard of growth hormone. He said he never knew of anybody taking more than 2-3 compounds at a time. This pretty much coincides with anything Ric Drasin has said about 1970's steroid usage. Ric trained with Arnold and the guy has no reason to lie about it. Ric said Arnold liked Primobolan Acetate in his basic cycles. Pretty simple shit. Moron GH15 wants everybody to believe that every current steroid, Prohormone and GH was being used back in the 70's. The man is a complete moron and nothing more.
That sounds about right. Test was used in the offseason but rarely before shows. You guys have to remember that dieting for a show was not like it is now and not NEARLY as long. 4-6 weeks TOPS, fish, chicken, some red meat, no carbs and water.
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this is just wrong ,,
again i will explain
TRENBOLONA ACE AND FINA AND ALL THE NAMES YOU SAY ITS ALL THE SAME DAMN THING
C O W DRUGS ,, CATTLE DRUGS TO INCREASE LEAN MUSCLE AND REDUCE BODYFAT IN THE SAME TIME,, THIS WHAT CREATED THE SO CALL EXTRA LEAN FUCKING BEEF YOU BUY IN YOUR LOCAL WALMART REMEMBER THAT? 4% I MENTION IT IN BIBLE,,
SO ALL OF THISPOWEDERS ,, FINA PELETS,,ALL THIS IS SAME BALONIE WAS AVAILABLE SINCE LATE 60S ALL THROUGH 70S,,
NOW! TO THE POINT AND DONT TELL ME WHAT FRANK ZANE SAY I TELL YOU WAT THEY TOOK
FRANK ZANE TOOK TRENBOLONA AND WHN I SAY TRENBOLONA I MEAN ANY FORM OF IT THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO HIM SPECIFICALY WHICH WAS VET THIS DAYS,, HE TOOK IT IN 70S
yes! he used primbolana acatato,, it is very vety very good drug and when legit put LOT of lean muscle on you ,, lot is relative but on someone like frank it put good amount of lean muscle since he ws average to small fella at best
in the 70s they used EXACTLY what we use now day with out theinsulina! the end
yes there was hgh in experiemental stages,, reason frank zane did not use it in the mid 70s was why he was 185lb lol ,, arnold used it in experiemental stages from good ole ussr,, WAS USED! again not like today no one ever took 30 iu back then no one could but it was being experiemented with and cadavar in 3-4 iu did a lot! to ones physiqe
all this balonie about dianabola and nandrolona ,, yes they used it too,, but testosterona was there too ,, again nto like today when you have bunch of blooof balls who use the flying day light out of it due to high doses of hgh which make them less of a bloof ball and they can pull the look ...see ronie winklar.... but yes it was used in 70s,,
frank zane is only 1! of many bodybuild of the 70s ,, he used everything used now day aside from hgh and insulina,,later on he USED GH!
so whomever this wanna be beffweight is...he def not profesional nor anyone who actualy steped on stage in high levels ,,
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So what was Zane running here? Any ideas fellas?
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fella liek ross,, you know who i talk abotu ...ross is build on primobolana ,, fella like frank zane...was build on primobolana and then some trenbolona! and masterona too! again timing!
legit primobolana is amazing drug for the wquality of muscle it put on you you actualy see it when lookin in yourself not through mirorr you feel it and see it by looking in yourself weekly ,, but! the density and the polish look of frank zane was due to few compounds
1,, primobolana
2,, trenbolona
3,, masterona
many other compounds ofcourse,, but those are 3 who put him in that specific look ,, and yes he took them
th eonly diff from now to back then is...they actualy trained back then ,, they really worked out lol ,, rest is same aside from insulina and high doses syntetic 191 gh
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So what was Zane running here? Any ideas fellas?
your infatuation with him is nto realistic to you ,, you dont look even remotely like that,, you will need good foundation first...foundation build by drugs,, then you wil be able to sculpt yourself into something that you hope will look like that
frank zane ws on what i say he was in that picture too
primbolana ,, trenbolona ,, masterona,, all the hardening agents and the pure anabolics you can land your hand on yes that INCLUDE equipona
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hahaha "bloof balls" I love it!
Zane looks great in that pic I don't care what he took he looks fantastic.
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GH15 were you even around gyms in the 70's and early 80's? How do you know what he took back in the day? Do you look at someone and predict what they took? I agree with Beefy in that those were the common drugs of the day.
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GH15 were you even around gyms in the 70's and early 80's? How do you know what he took back in the day? Do you look at someone and predict what they took? I agree with Beefy in that those were the common drugs of the day.
did i say anytin about the dose? I SAID PRODUCTS,,maybe i shall start write in norweigian i wil have to ask the scandinavian to teach me some ,,
when you look into frank zane you can see on his forhead the following
primobolanatrenbolonamas teronastanozololaaddict,,, yes on his little forhead all tatoos ,, invisible tatto freind
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this is just wrong ,,
again i will explain
TRENBOLONA ACE AND FINA AND ALL THE NAMES YOU SAY ITS ALL THE SAME DAMN THING
C O W DRUGS ,, CATTLE DRUGS TO INCREASE LEAN MUSCLE AND REDUCE BODYFAT IN THE SAME TIME,, THIS WHAT CREATED THE SO CALL EXTRA LEAN FUCKING BEEF YOU BUY IN YOUR LOCAL WALMART REMEMBER THAT? 4% I MENTION IT IN BIBLE,,
SO ALL OF THISPOWEDERS ,, FINA PELETS,,ALL THIS IS SAME BALONIE WAS AVAILABLE SINCE LATE 60S ALL THROUGH 70S,,
NOW! TO THE POINT AND DONT TELL ME WHAT FRANK ZANE SAY I TELL YOU WAT THEY TOOK
FRANK ZANE TOOK TRENBOLONA AND WHN I SAY TRENBOLONA I MEAN ANY FORM OF IT THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO HIM SPECIFICALY WHICH WAS VET THIS DAYS,, HE TOOK IT IN 70S
yes! he used primbolana acatato,, it is very vety very good drug and when legit put LOT of lean muscle on you ,, lot is relative but on someone like frank it put good amount of lean muscle since he ws average to small fella at best
in the 70s they used EXACTLY what we use now day with out theinsulina! the end
yes there was hgh in experiemental stages,, reason frank zane did not use it in the mid 70s was why he was 185lb lol ,, arnold used it in experiemental stages from good ole ussr,, WAS USED! again not like today no one ever took 30 iu back then no one could but it was being experiemented with and cadavar in 3-4 iu did a lot! to ones physiqe
all this balonie about dianabola and nandrolona ,, yes they used it too,, but testosterona was there too ,, again nto like today when you have bunch of blooof balls who use the flying day light out of it due to high doses of hgh which make them less of a bloof ball and they can pull the look ...see ronie winklar.... but yes it was used in 70s,,
frank zane is only 1! of many bodybuild of the 70s ,, he used everything used now day aside from hgh and insulina,,later on he USED GH!
so whomever this wanna be beffweight is...he def not profesional nor anyone who actualy steped on stage in high levels ,,
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GH15... You are a moron. Instead of spewing your bullshit about guys from the 70's using the exact same drugs that guys in 2012 are using minus the insulin, why dont you tell us this? Why is it that guys like Ric Draisin, Frank Zane, Steve Davis, and other guys from the 70's openly will admit to and discuss their steroid usage and even mention the drugs used, but not one of them ever mentions any anabolic steroid than the ones I mentioned in my previous post? Why is that? Why dont they mention Parabolin, Finaject, Anadrol, etc...? I am sure that many may lie about the dosages they took and the length of the cycles they took, but not one of them ever mentions any of our current day steroids being used in the 70's. I bet your answer will be that they want to hide the real secrets from us all. And that they are ashamed to admit to using such terrible drugs like parabolin. Please with all of your horseshit. Even crazy Pete Grymkowski, who is a huge fabricator of stories in regards to his steroid dosages, doesnt even mention any of the current day steroids in his crazy memory of his 1970's cycles. So is Grymko in on the big GH15 hidden steroid conspiracy too? Get fucked bro!!!
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GH15... You are a moron. Instead of spewing your bullshit about guys from the 70's using the exact same drugs that guys in 2012 are using minus the insulin, why dont you tell us this? Why is it that guys like Ric Draisin, Frank Zane, Steve Davis, and other guys from the 70's openly will admit to and discuss their steroid usage and even mention the drugs used, but not one of them ever mentions any anabolic steroid than the ones I mentioned in my previous post? Why is that? Why dont they mention Parabolin, Finaject, Anadrol, etc...? I am sure that many may lie about the dosages they took and the length of the cycles they took, but not one of them ever mentions any of our current day steroids being used in the 70's. I bet your answer will be that they want to hide the real secrets from us all. And that they are ashamed to admit to using such terrible drugs like parabolin. Please with all of your horseshit. Even crazy Pete Grymkowski, who is a huge fabricator of stories in regards to his steroid dosages, doesnt even mention any of the current day steroids in his crazy memory of his 1970's cycles. So is Grymko in on the big GH15 hidden steroid conspiracy too? Get fucked bro!!!
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if you admit to the use of trenbolona ace... as old generation .... you basicaly put the all bodybuild in risk ,,for the greatness of the old is mesured based on pharmacutical level drugs ,, notice the all drugs mentioned are pharmacuital human grade usage,, very few talk about the actual vet and animal drugs used in the 60s and 70s for the GENERATION is very pure ...not pure as in not lieing ,,,pure as in it is the generation to follow the great generation ,, it is generation whee doing the right! thing was the most important to...ofcourse they failed their children in many many ways trying to over parenting...but this is another subject
they will not admit to it for it is shame for them for! everyone know that with trenbolona you dont need no dietona! and no need for fucking cardio unless very close to a show!
this! is why not mentioned,, you take away from greatness...see human nature wil tend to throw a bone.... like groink ...he throw you a bone here about what he used,,,doesnt say all of it but throw you a bone ,, in reality this is how the older generation thought ....they have to give up the hormone usage but if they actualy say it all ....their magic becomes POOF GONE,, and thus they entering the gh15 place in neverland since you know ooneverland is my home right? they go into gh15 neveland to a little place there with a fence ...called LALAland ,, its fenced in so they are protected from evil doiers
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one word!
F I L T
if you admit to the use of trenbolona ace... as old generation .... you basicaly put the all bodybuild in risk ,,for the greatness of the old is mesured based on pharmacutical level drugs ,, notice the all drugs mentioned are pharmacuital human grade usage,, very few talk about the actual vet and animal drugs used in the 60s and 70s for the GENERATION is very pure ...not pure as in not lieing ,,,pure as in it is the generation to follow the great generation ,, it is generation whee doing the right! thing was the most important to...ofcourse they failed their children in many many ways trying to over parenting...but this is another subject
they will not admit to it for it is shame for them for! everyone know that with trenbolona you dont need no dietona! and no need for fucking cardio unless very close to a show!
this! is why not mentioned,, you take away from greatness...see human nature wil tend to throw a bone.... like groink ...he throw you a bone here about what he used,,,doesnt say all of it but throw you a bone ,, in reality this is how the older generation thought ....they have to give up the hormone usage but if they actualy say it all ....their magic becomes POOF GONE,, and thus they entering the gh15 place in neverland since you know ooneverland is my home right? they go into gh15 neveland to a little place there with a fence ...called LALAland ,, its fenced in so they are protected from evil doiers
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You crack me up, Lee.
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GH15 were you even around gyms in the 70's and early 80's? How do you know what he took back in the day? Do you look at someone and predict what they took? I agree with Beefy in that those were the common drugs of the day.
Exactly. This the problem I have. You, Hazbin, me and a lot of other Old school bodybuilders trained during that time. In the 70's and early 80's I trained at Pearls, Golds (Venice and Santa Monica) and World Gym in Santa Monica when Joe Gold was the owner and was there during the time Arnold was preparing for the 80' Olympia. I got to know and train with almost everyone at one time or another. Most people know that I trained with Rory, Bob Paris, Jon Aranita, etc. Point being out of everyone that I knew, was around and trained with not ONE person EVER mentioned tren or masteron. Now, if any other person that was around during that time would like to chime in, have at it. I know there are a TON of Old school bodybuilders that were around during that time that lurk on here including some old pro's.
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one word!
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if you admit to the use of trenbolona ace... as old generation .... you basicaly put the all bodybuild in risk ,,for the greatness of the old is mesured based on pharmacutical level drugs ,, notice the all drugs mentioned are pharmacuital human grade usage,, very few talk about the actual vet and animal drugs used in the 60s and 70s for the GENERATION is very pure ...not pure as in not lieing ,,,pure as in it is the generation to follow the great generation ,, it is generation whee doing the right! thing was the most important to...ofcourse they failed their children in many many ways trying to over parenting...but this is another subject
they will not admit to it for it is shame for them for! everyone know that with trenbolona you dont need no dietona! and no need for fucking cardio unless very close to a show!
this! is why not mentioned,, you take away from greatness...see human nature wil tend to throw a bone.... like groink ...he throw you a bone here about what he used,,,doesnt say all of it but throw you a bone ,, in reality this is how the older generation thought ....they have to give up the hormone usage but if they actualy say it all ....their magic becomes POOF GONE,, and thus they entering the gh15 place in neverland since you know ooneverland is my home right? they go into gh15 neveland to a little place there with a fence ...called LALAland ,, its fenced in so they are protected from evil doiers
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Your response is absolutely insane. So pathetic. They admit to the basics, but if they admit to trenbolone, they then lose their greatness? You are a fucking loon. I guess they all are in on it together. Just trying to make sure that they preserve their greatness by not admiting to using Trenbelone. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA!!!!!!! Anybody that believes a word that you say on the topic of bodybuilding drugs is in danger of serious damage. Either that or they are they are the types that dont grow on their first cycle of dianabol and deca and then they cant figure it out so they look to GAPING-ANUS15 to show them the way. As I said before, get fucked bro!
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did i say anytin about the dose? I SAID PRODUCTS,,maybe i shall start write in norweigian i wil have to ask the scandinavian to teach me some ,,
when you look into frank zane you can see on his forhead the following
primobolanatrenbolonamas teronastanozololaaddict,,, yes on his little forhead all tatoos ,, invisible tatto freind
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And another thing moron. Nobody can tell what a contest day bodybuilder is taking by the way he looks. Absolutely impossible. When I was competing, I would have a guy next to me who was dialed in dead perfect and he would tell me that he only had money to use nothing but sustanon 250 and some cytomel. Then would get his hands on some aldactozide a few days out to cut the water. He made due with what he had cash for and what he had easy access to. The other man next to me was in the same great shape and he said he used Winstrol V, and Anadrol, cutting the anadrol out 1 week before the show and didnt use any diuretics at all. Both guys looked dead on peaked out. Nobody can tell what another is on. You are a moron and you are making newbies think that you know what the pros are taking just by looking at them. You are the one that is fucking with the greatness of what bodybuilding once was. You are a prime reason for the filth that it has become.
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And another thing moron. Nobody can tell what a contest day bodybuilder is taking by the way he looks. Absolutely impossible. When I was competing, I would have a guy next to me who was dialed in dead perfect and he would tell me that he only had money to use nothing but sustanon 250 and some cytomel. Then would get his hands on some aldactozide a few days out to cut the water. He made due with what he had cash for and what he had easy access to. The other man next to me was in the same great shape and he said he used Winstrol V, and Anadrol, cutting the anadrol out 1 week before the show and didnt use any diuretics at all. Both guys looked dead on peaked out. Nobody can tell what another is on. You are a moron and you are making newbies think that you know what the pros are taking just by looking at them. You are the one that is fucking with the greatness of what bodybuilding once was. You are a prime reason for the filth that it has become.
he lied to you silly!! he took trenbolone and gh. haha
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And another thing moron. Nobody can tell what a contest day bodybuilder is taking by the way he looks. Absolutely impossible. When I was competing, I would have a guy next to me who was dialed in dead perfect and he would tell me that he only had money to use nothing but sustanon 250 and some cytomel. Then would get his hands on some aldactozide a few days out to cut the water. He made due with what he had cash for and what he had easy access to. The other man next to me was in the same great shape and he said he used Winstrol V, and Anadrol, cutting the anadrol out 1 week before the show and didnt use any diuretics at all. Both guys looked dead on peaked out. Nobody can tell what another is on. You are a moron and you are making newbies think that you know what the pros are taking just by looking at them. You are the one that is fucking with the greatness of what bodybuilding once was. You are a prime reason for the filth that it has become.
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when you have enough courage to come on your original acount under ONE SINGLE ACCOUNT,, then i will treat you as equal and believe what yo usay ,, when you stop cursing out of frastration ...then i will listen to what you say and not let it fly in the wind...
when i say something was used it was! used,,
bodybuilders are SICK,, i am sick,, you are if you are bodybuild SICK,, we are experimental in process ,, thats how every single bodybuild is,, if not! the bodybuil will not advance it wil lalwys look the damn same ....always go from the 190 to the 210 then back to 190 ,, this is what happen when you dont live the bodybuild life which is FULL OF DRUGS and timing and doses and alwys think one step ahead ,, always cheating too! ,,
i am tired from answering balonie,, this boarding is starting to bore me ,, and its not good for you ,, i dont like to be bored and i find myself being bored lately ,,
as i said I BRING HUGE TRUTH IN YOUR FACE very soon ,, it will be for the all world not only for your sorry gimick but for everyone,, the world need to knwo what bodybuild is and! only! when the world know....then it may or may not accept it ,,
im tired of the excuses im tired of this use only primobolna and tiny mini 20 mg dianabola! no! this is not! how you do it ,, this is how you get to be stuck in under 200lb for ever and ruin your dreams by wasting and peeing your money to the wind,,
im not up to argue with either,, im above it ,, im not giving the chance to argue with me anymore,, this is why on the webpage i dont let you even talk ,, i put it all out! all out! for everyone to see,, it may come slow but it iwill be all out,,
telling me bodybuild not using trenbolona when it was around since late 60s ,, SHAME ON YOU YOU FUCKING GIMICK,, they used everything we used every fucking thing we used
THE ONLY THING THEY DID NOT USE WAS INSULINA AND HGH IN HIGH DOSS,, SOME DIDNT USE HGH AT ALL ...THIS IS THE ONLY DIFF BETWEEN 1968 AND 2012 ,,
THIS IS IT! INSULINA AND HGH ,,
IF YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO 240 LB ON STAGE WITH OUT INSULINA AND HGH YOU ARE DREAMING A NICE DREAM ,,
it is not my fault you live a dream fed to you many years by the weiders and the blackmans ,, the reality is much diff,, the reality is that many of the older generations like mike died from narcotics abuse thats what they fucking died from ,, many others ,, you die from narcotics not from steroids,, we used everything back in the 70s and 90s and same as we use now day aside from insulina and hgh in high doses
that is the truth!
so insted of cursing and coming on your 10 gimicks pray to god you dont lose me for i am the ONLY light you have in a very very dark tunnel of B A L O N I E ,, and no the reality is not 10 mg dianabola and 34 mg of trenboona a day ,,a bodybuiold is poin cuchin PIN FUCKIN KOOSHIN,,
im telling you that we sit with needle 3 cc each needle and inject both needle to each ass cheek like its nothing every second day ,, sometimes every day all 3 cc 2 neeldes into the ass cheeks ,, then hgh all day long ,, and insulina in doses you can only dream of,,
you fucking retard do you think human body meant to be 220lb 6%? ,, do you?? do you think human body want to be 240lb 6% 5'8?? it will fight it and every single day you will wake up looking the damn same if not worse if you dont take the right drugs the right dose the right timing and always alwys feed it with fuckin insulina with the hgh ,, and this will break platue of size not fuckin weight lifting and another banana to the 10 mg dianabola,,
get the fuckin out of my fucking window you louzy liar bastard
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Exactly. This the problem I have. You, Hazbin, me and a lot of other Old school bodybuilders trained during that time. In the 70's and early 80's I trained at Pearls, Golds (Venice and Santa Monica) and World Gym in Santa Monica when Joe Gold was the owner and was there during the time Arnold was preparing for the 80' Olympia. I got to know and train with almost everyone at one time or another. Most people know that I trained with Rory, Bob Paris, Jon Aranita, etc. Point being out of everyone that I knew, was around and trained with not ONE person EVER mentioned tren or masteron. Now, if any other person that was around during that time would like to chime in, have at it. I know there are a TON of Old school bodybuilders that were around during that time that lurk on here including some old pro's.
Correct! Correct! Correct! I trained with Padilla, Bill Grant, Samir, the Mentzers and was trained by Rory. I met dozens of other guys in the gym, watched them train or had one or two workouts with more. Denny Malloy, Bob Reis, Larry Jackson, Kent Kuehn, Roger Callard, Tom Platz. We went out to eat and had discussions about no-one did test until the early 80's and I never heard about Parabolin/Finijet (tren) until about 1984. Never heard about Masteron. Winny V started to get popular around 88-89 for contest prep.
When I trained with Danny P he had trained with Arnold... again no mention of any of the above drugs. I hung out with Grymko back East when he was a huge dealer. He had trained with Casey Viator and Sergio in Deland Fl. Pete knew EVERYONE and would take anything that worked... no mention from him either.
Oh Dr. Kerr turned me on to Methandriol around 1984 since I couldn't manage test (I get THOUSANDS of acne blemishes on just 1 cc/week). Around that time I started to hear about Equipoise and Bolasterone. I got some EQ but never knew of anyone who used Bolasterone.
I remember Kerr was talking about the current hGH was going to be coming out and going to be huge. Only human hGH was available legally and the supply was very short and not available unless you were very rich or a dwarf. I don't know any bodybuilders who were rich yet--not even Arnold. There were rumors about Rhesus monkey hGH being used but I never talked to anyone who used it.
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Correct! Correct! Correct! I trained with Padilla, Bill Grant, Samir, the Mentzers and was trained by Rory. I met dozens of other guys in the gym, watched them train or had one or two workouts with more. Denny Malloy, Bob Reis, Larry Jackson, Kent Kuehn, Roger Callard, Tom Platz. We went out to eat and had discussions about no-one did test until the early 80's and I never heard about Parabolin/Finijet (tren) until about 1984. Never heard about Masteron. Winny V started to get popular around 88-89 for contest prep.
When I trained with Danny P he had trained with Arnold... again no mention of any of the above drugs. I hung out with Grymko back East when he was a huge dealer. He had trained with Casey Viator and Sergio in Deland Fl. Pete knew EVERYONE and would take anything that worked... no mention from him either.
Oh Dr. Kerr turned me on to Methandriol around 1984 since I couldn't manage test (I get THOUSANDS of acne blemishes on just 1 cc/week). Around that time I started to hear about Equipoise and Bolasterone. I got some EQ but never knew of anyone who used Bolasterone.
I remember Kerr was talking about the current hGH was going to be coming out and going to be huge. Only human hGH was available legally and the supply was very short and not available unless you were very rich or a dwarf. I don't know any bodybuilders who were rich yet--not even Arnold. There were rumors about Rhesus monkey hGH being used but I never talked to anyone who used it.
I had a friend who got taught about growth and insulin from Gary Strydom in 1989. Before that I had never heard of using insulin for BBing.
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First guy i heard taking HGH teh cadaver version was Ed Kawak, I also remember methandriol dipronate, they used to say it opened up your receptor sites, lol, was a vet drug from australia was also part of the combo in the drug drive another popular drug in teh late eighties early 90s.
Another old one was methyltest,one angry oral, toxic too I couldnt handle it made everyone a moody son of a bitch but was real popular in the 80s, especially with the powerlifters.
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I had a friend who got taught about growth and insulin from Gary Strydom in 1989. Before that I had never heard of using insulin for BBing.
Strydom using growth and slin back then already?
I'd imagine slin was stumbled upon accidentally, like in the case of a diabetic, tim belknap..?
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all through 70s vet drugs were in use,, they used to get them from vets,, actualy franco used to steal them with out paying,, winstrol VET used including equipoise vet used including trenbolona vet used all through 70s ,, yes there was winstrol human grade too back then and now btu im talking about vet drugs being used winstrol included for some reason .....which i will let you speculate here....winstrol was used in a vet form,,
all through 70s! ,, also hgh cadavar was already run among high level bodybuild ,,
wanna see how i bring narcsistic fucktard into this ? here ill show you
reeves used TESTOSTERONA IN THE 40S! avaiable to use in europe for medical reasons btu easily obtained with little americano dolaros,,
countdown to narcsistic entering the arena begins
now,, as i alwys say bodybuild are liars! they will ue anything they can and check anything they can ,,
all the veterinary drugs were available and used by franco columbo in the 70s ,, ALL OF THEM,, many of them used by arnold himself,, and those were the top fellas of the day ,, im talking here first hand not a rumor ,, first hand!
hgh as i said was used by top in experimental stage,, not all but few tops fellas used it ,, again fellas were scared of the giantizm deases... but no oen woudl stop arnold from nothing he was god himself after all ,, so he indeed do it ,, and quite few others i wont mention to not ambares them you can see though on their physiqe,, arnold wouldnt giev a flying fuck if i said what he used he would tell it to yourface straight on in closed room if you were serious bodybuild and he was nto in office ...which is ...now!
as with everything on internet its he say and she say no oen can prove a dman thing,, i can tell you though ...that the drugs responsible to champions has a lot to do with veterinary drugs ,,yes also in the 70s... not to the degree it was later btu also in 70s my friends
now ,, in addition to all that ,,,if you think that in 2000 we sudenly discovered the powders lol you are severly mistaken ,, the poweders were always there friends,, always there...YOU DISCOVERED THEM ABOUT 15 YEARS AFTR THE MURDERER DISCOVERED THEM...this is the diff,,
yes pharma human grade was always preference in the begginign of modern bodybuild ,, btu later on came vet and mexicana right after and then ...came underground,, and in th e70s they used everything vet and pharma human grade , and a litle secret...they also cooked cookies... but shhh you didnt hear this from me ,,,just a little bird
if you think i lie to you ...which I DO NOT,, i have news to you coming quite soon gods willing via the generation nothigness prime tool THE I N T E R N E T ,, this news will reveal bodybuild to its little last details so EVERYONE knows what bodybuild is to the t ! that include mama jessica in middle minestoa that about to pick up her daughter from paino lesson and her son from karate classs...SHE ! too will knwo the truth
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Strydom using growth and slin back then already?
I'd imagine slin was stumbled upon accidentally, like in the case of a diabetic, tim belknap..?
any time you seen fella on stage 240lb he used insulina to get there,, yo ualready saw what is profesional with out insulina.... philsulina heath 213 on stage 212...5'9...thats where it ends with not consistant usage of insulina,,
hgh and aas put you as i said 5'10 215 on stage in a maximus absolimus!
7 lb per inch of height up or down,, this comerical brought to you by truth4bodybuilders.whate ver
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any time you seen fella on stage 240lb he used insulina to get there,,
In 1984 haney was on slin ?
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ill repeat again ,, ONCE again ,, ANY time you seen on stage fella 240 in condition for stage they have been to insulina and hgh ,,ANY SINGLE TIME
and thats that,, abuse and misuse is what killed the cult of bodybuild,, the best bodybuild is the one who know their body and use their head to abuse their body in the best possible way which = results that enhance it not destroy it ,,
and you have all of them holding the title mr o and quite few who didnt make it but were very close: )
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In the late 70s up to 1988 i worked for Ron Davies who was the president of the EFBB and head judge at the 84 Olympia,and the only time i heard the name parabolan was around 87-88.The drugs that coach and max rep have named are the only ones i heard about in the late 70s - late 80s,and the only ones i ever heard Ron mention,and Ron Davies was still competing himself in the senior universe in the early 80s.Plus the man was very wealthy,so he could have afforded any drug he wanted.Plus keep in mind if GH15 is who most people think he is,he was born in 1969 and probably didn`t step into a gym till the late 80s.
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Parabolan wasnt tren acetate either from memory, It was tren something else and came in a 30ml bottle with a funny diosage like 62.5mg per ml, French Vet drug i seem to recall, was around from the mid 80s
It was 76mg per vial,and the best gear i ever took,i was at my strongest on this in 1989,and it was not a drug i ever heard mention in the early 80s.
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1975 in circulation ,, 1970 under development already and being used! before getting out to market,, 1975 was all over already ,, perabolan by negma ,, but! this is not the key here the key here that i tell you here that vet drugs were taken from vet ofices,, ALL vet drugs,, either stolen or just purchased by bodybuild,,
bodybuild was always a convict style of activity ,, in the 70s it was more in the open for there were no laws...you know like wild west in americana...can do whatever you want no controlled,, but...veterinary medicine WAS it was for fuckin horses and cows and inbetween ,, that had to be stolen or bought under the table ,, bodybuild always did it and always will do it,,
how can none of you hear about parabolan in the 70s ,, and one more thing you need to understand ,, BODYBUILD IS NTO ONLY AMERICANA ,, GET IT OUT OF YOUR HANDS ALREADY ,, EUROPE WAS MUCH MORE ADVANCED THAN AMERICANA WHERN IT CAME TO HORMONES....IT WAS THE USSR WHERE EVERYTHING STARTED ,, GERMANY ,, NOT FUCKIN AMERICANA ,, NOT EVERYTHING IS AROUND AMERICANA BACK THEN ,,
so....in the 70s all the vet drugs were around,, and i will not let it skip by just because some geezers want to keep the aura around their generation ,, this is balonie ,,true hgh and insulina were not used ,, hgh was exprimental and insulina was not used for bodybuild purpose but rest was fair game,, THIS IS ALSO why they were 180 to 220 and the heights were 6 feet and 6'2 on the 230 lb fellas,, got to understand it fellas
a bodybuild back then that was 200-210lb was considered big
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In the late 70s up to 1988 i worked for Ron Davies who was the president of the EFBB and head judge at the 84 Olympia,and the only time i heard the name parabolan was around 87-88.The drugs that coach and max rep have named are the only ones i heard about in the late 70s - late 80s,and the only ones i ever heard Ron mention,and Ron Davies was still competing himself in the senior universe in the early 80s.Plus the man was very wealthy,so he could have afforded any drug he wanted.Plus keep in mind if GH15 is who most people think he is,he was born in 1969 and probably didn`t step into a gym till the late 80s.
you heard about parabolana in 87 eh? lol the company was almost out of business by then ,, i do not get it ,, why? why being so decpetive and why lie? its nto lieing its twisting the actual events ,, franco ,, ask him ,, actualy you cant sinece the last book he wrote was that litle bodybuild book about how much vitamin c you need and vitamin d ....so you cant ask him ,, that little monkey was stealing vet drugs from vet offices he has contact with ,, many others were on it ,,
everything in the 70s was done wild wild west style fellas,, dont think for a second it was on some 20 mg dianabol and 200 mg nandrolona lol
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Another old one was methyltest,one angry oral, toxic too I couldnt handle it made everyone a moody son of a bitch but was real popular in the 80s, especially with the powerlifters.
Is that the same as was being sold as M1T over the counter a few years back? Supposed to be the strongest oral.
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all through 70s vet drugs were in use,, they used to get them from vets,, actualy franco used to steal them with out paying,,
your such a fuckin troll,, cunt
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and you have all of them holding the title mr o and quite few who didnt make it but were very close: )
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So gh15,
haney was on slin and gh in the mid 80s..
And what about arnold circa 74, wasn't he around 240 as well, was he also on slin and gh then ?
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So gh15,
haney was on slin and gh in the mid 80s..
And what about arnold circa 74, wasn't he around 240 as well, was he also on slin and gh then ?
see the problem is ,, that many of the fellas i talk to here DO NOT KNWO HOW TO READ,, maybe i cant talk english or maybe both,, is arnold 5'10? is he under 5'10? arnold was 230 6'1!! this is 5'10 210lb or so ,, arnold was slightly over 6'1 in his bodybuild days ,, he wa same as 205lb bodybuild that is 5'10 ....on stage!
arnold did not! use insulina,, haney on the other hand...i wont touch it right now,,
2 4 0 lb on stage = insulina
5 ' 10 or under!
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I can read very well
But this haney doing growth and slin thing in the mid 80s, I don't know
I've always been receptive to your informative posts, but I think you're wrong there
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Totally off topic in a way,but do you guys remember the redi-ject stuff from Mexico........pre-loaded and ready to use ?
Guys I trained with were using winstrol,anavar,cypionate,and equipoise.............ea rly to mid 1980`s if my memory serves me correctly.
Pregnant womens piss was big where I came from too.......just kidding! ;D
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ill repeat again ,, ONCE again ,, ANY time you seen on stage fella 240 in condition for stage they have been to insulina and hgh ,,ANY SINGLE TIME
No mention of 5'10" ...
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Totally off topic in a way,but do you guys remember the redi-ject stuff from Mexico........pre-loaded and ready to use ?
Yes. Weren't those 21g or some ridiculously fuck off needle size? :D
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Pregnant womens piss was big where I came from too.......just kidding! ;D
But that's another story for another day! ;D
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I can read very well
But this haney doing growth and slin thing in the mid 80s, I don't know
I've always been receptive to your informative posts, but I think you're wrong there
haney didnt alwys compete 240,, dont let kindness and niceness confuse your brain ,, i said it repetedly ...just because franzhour have only 4 teeth in his mouth and he look like he is good dada ...doesnt mean franzhour dont sit infront of mirror at midnight and inject the flying day light into himself ,, aqnd oh he does!
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Yes. Weren't those 21g or some ridiculously fuck off needle size? :D
Yup,I believe so.
How old are you bro? ;D
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Totally off topic in a way,but do you guys remember the redi-ject stuff from Mexico........pre-loaded and ready to use ?
Guys I trained with were using winstrol,anavar,cypionate,and equipoise.............ea rly to mid 1980`s if my memory serves me correctly.
Pregnant womens piss was big where I came from too.......just kidding! ;D
HCG was made from pregnant women's piss. It stimulated your pituitary gland to produce luteinizing homone to stimulate natural testosterone production. Guys used it off cycle to turn back on their own testosterone production.
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HCG was made from pregnant women's piss. It stimulated your pituitary gland to produce luteinizing homone to stimulate natural testosterone production. Guys used it off cycle to turn back on their own testosterone production.
Yeah,I remember hearing in the gyms that Nubret and Gerard Buinoid were sing it.
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Yup,I believe so.
How old are you bro? ;D
Not that old, just started young. :D
Dynamite Kid (WWF wrestler) wrote in his book about the HCG they'd go off gear and use it for a couple of weeks every 6 weeks or so back in the 80s. Didn't seem to take the test half life into account though. :-\
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Not that old, just started young. :D
Dynamite Kid (WWF wrestler) wrote in his book about the HCG they'd go off gear and use it for a couple of weeks every 6 weeks or so back in the 80s. Didn't seem to take the test half life into account though. :-\
Dynamite was using Test Suspension mostly plus injectable Dbol
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haney didnt alwys compete 240,, dont let kindness and niceness confuse your brain ,, i said it repetedly ...just because franzhour have only 4 teeth in his mouth and he look like he is good dada ...doesnt mean franzhour dont sit infront of mirror at midnight and inject the flying day light into himself ,, aqnd oh he does!
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I'm very aware a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder
From personal experience
Also don't do business with a bodybuilder
NEVER lend a bodybuilder money
And from reading your posts, the majority are lying FILT with regards to drugs
I'm of course referring to the hardcore narcissistic competitive obssessed few, and yes, generalizing
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I'm very aware a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder
From personal experience
Also don't do business with a bodybuilder
NEVER lend a bodybuilder money
And from reading your posts, the majority are lying FILT with regards to drugs
I'm of course referring to the hardcore narcissistic competitive obssessed few, and yes, generalizing
Look at Haney in the 83 Olympia then look at him at the 84 Olympia, serious mutation happened in that year between the 2 contests, its pretty obvious he upped the dose but he also started the all you can inject GH buffet, Im sure he was using smart amounts on slin by the time he retired at the 91 Olympia, his biggest and some say best ever.
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all through 70s vet drugs were in use,, they used to get them from vets,, actualy franco used to steal them with out paying,, winstrol VET used including equipoise vet used including trenbolona vet used all through 70s ,, yes there was winstrol human grade too back then and now btu im talking about vet drugs being used winstrol included for some reason .....which i will let you speculate here....winstrol was used in a vet form,,
all through 70s! ,, also hgh cadavar was already run among high level bodybuild ,,
wanna see how i bring narcsistic fucktard into this ? here ill show you
reeves used TESTOSTERONA IN THE 40S! avaiable to use in europe for medical reasons btu easily obtained with little americano dolaros,,
countdown to narcsistic entering the arena begins
now,, as i alwys say bodybuild are liars! they will ue anything they can and check anything they can ,,
all the veterinary drugs were available and used by franco columbo in the 70s ,, ALL OF THEM,, many of them used by arnold himself,, and those were the top fellas of the day ,, im talking here first hand not a rumor ,, first hand!
hgh as i said was used by top in experimental stage,, not all but few tops fellas used it ,, again fellas were scared of the giantizm deases... but no oen woudl stop arnold from nothing he was god himself after all ,, so he indeed do it ,, and quite few others i wont mention to not ambares them you can see though on their physiqe,, arnold wouldnt giev a flying fuck if i said what he used he would tell it to yourface straight on in closed room if you were serious bodybuild and he was nto in office ...which is ...now!
as with everything on internet its he say and she say no oen can prove a dman thing,, i can tell you though ...that the drugs responsible to champions has a lot to do with veterinary drugs ,,yes also in the 70s... not to the degree it was later btu also in 70s my friends
now ,, in addition to all that ,,,if you think that in 2000 we sudenly discovered the powders lol you are severly mistaken ,, the poweders were always there friends,, always there...YOU DISCOVERED THEM ABOUT 15 YEARS AFTR THE MURDERER DISCOVERED THEM...this is the diff,,
yes pharma human grade was always preference in the begginign of modern bodybuild ,, btu later on came vet and mexicana right after and then ...came underground,, and in th e70s they used everything vet and pharma human grade , and a litle secret...they also cooked cookies... but shhh you didnt hear this from me ,,,just a little bird
if you think i lie to you ...which I DO NOT,, i have news to you coming quite soon gods willing via the generation nothigness prime tool THE I N T E R N E T ,, this news will reveal bodybuild to its little last details so EVERYONE knows what bodybuild is to the t ! that include mama jessica in middle minestoa that about to pick up her daughter from paino lesson and her son from karate classs...SHE ! too will knwo the truth
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I don't think anyone here is saying you're lying. I think most of us who were around during that time would just call it misinformed.
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NEVER lend a bodybuilder money
^THIS^
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I'm very aware a bodybuilder is a bodybuilder
From personal experience
Also don't do business with a bodybuilder
NEVER lend a bodybuilder money
And from reading your posts, the majority are lying FILT with regards to drugs
I'm of course referring to the hardcore narcissistic competitive obssessed few, and yes, generalizing
let me ask you something,,
do you truly think and im not asking you specificaly i jst make a posting asking in general and you are the victim chosen as quote lol
do you think...that the genetic development of human being is determental .. that one fella will work just as hard and have just same drugs and be 185lb 5'10 on stage while other take exactly same thing and be 255lb on stage? same height,, do you think the genetic play such a huge role that there will be 60 lb of lean muscle diff between 2 individuals on same doses same products same everything?
this is what the filt want you to believe,, i stand against this ,, i stand against this and shout NO THIS IS A LIE,,
and it is a lie,, for! arnold woudnt be 225lb 6'1 if this was the case,, he would be 250 26 he would be 280 for the height he had...
friend,, it is ALL in the drug ,, the diff in numbers between humans can be 10lb due to genetic structure if everything trained on the body ...if same height and same drug doses and products ,,the look may be diff due to muscle insertions but the size...will be quite the same if on same products and done same things...
it is THE SIN of the cult ,, not of the cult but of the leaders of the cult that make sons pay heavy price,, the lies are very logn and been going on for many many years,, always trying to make it something other than drugs and it is ALL drugs
do you really think a 5'6 fella can walk around 240lbn single digit lol with out hormonizing his mama and papa and his granny too ,, do you really think that when arnold at 6'1 could barely be 230 and he used anything under the sun back then,, including expeimented wiht gh and actualy trained and trained hard!
do you realy think a no one like jeff long will bring his 5'6 to sudenly be 240lb arnold competition weight lol at his midgit 5'6 with out major abuse of hgh and insulina? im talking MAJOR ABUSE including narcotics inorder to counter the side efects from abuse of hormones,, and im talking here life on the abue side
do you really thiink all that can be achieved with some dianabol 20 mg tablets and some 200 mg nandrolona like liar priest drilled in your head for many years?
well i got a big surprize for you ....it CAN NOT,, a midgit that is on hormones to begin with and do the balonie you talk about with little gh sometime and testosterona and nandrolona and some anadola...that midgit will look like the picture i will show you soon here ...i will show you a picture of what is the result of those midgits who get no where and never step on any stage EVER ,, i will show you here a picture of such midgit
but in general... haney was 240lb on stage...and that mean hgh and some insulina ,, when i say some i dotn mean 4 iu lol i mean SOME insulina,, he pulled it ok and knew how to use it right,, he ate solid and clean and that made it easier for him to keep the lines and again he did not! abuse it like today ,, the abuse today is crazy crazy abuse where 5'6 walk around 240lb on stage lol ,, i hope you understand that fella like branch waren is living under the needle at any given minute,, you take his neelde he shrink to 170 so fast you wont be able to say jack,, especialy if you take the gh and insulina,, all of those fellas they are not true bodybnuild,, they are hormone build,, they really dont have the foundation under...branch do have he started young but most of them dont have the foundation look into mr o now day look into many others...it just lack foundation and you see more and more jeff longs that are a joke to bodybuild and are a symtom of the deasese bodybuild is suffering of,,
i will now show you another problem in the wanna be gymasium rats.... this is what im talking about....let me fins pictur
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Look at Haney in the 83 Olympia then look at him at the 84 Olympia, serious mutation happened in that year between the 2 contests, its pretty obvious he upped the dose but he also started the all you can inject GH buffet, Im sure he was using smart amounts on slin by the time he retired at the 91 Olympia, his biggest and some say best ever.
yes, around 225-230 in 1983
Then boom 240lb plus!
Then late 80s 250lbs
Growth ok, mid-80s, its said to have been round and a select few used it
But slin, I did not know was around pre-90s as a prevalent bbing aid. A previous poster (can't remember who) mentioned strydom using slin in late 80s, BUT, my question is , as you said Haney made the jump to 240 in 84, could he have been using slin already?
Was haney a slin pioneer?
I thought yates was one of the first until today
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let me ask you something,,
do you truly think and im not asking you specificaly i jst make a posting asking in general and you are the victim chosen as quote lol
do you think...that the genetic development of human being is determental .. that one fella will work just as hard and have just same drugs and be 185lb 5'10 on stage while other take exactly same thing and be 255lb on stage? same height,, do you think the genetic play such a huge role that there will be 60 lb of lean muscle diff between 2 individuals on same doses same products same everything?
this is what the filt want you to believe,, i stand against this ,, i stand against this and shout NO THIS IS A LIE,,
and it is a lie,, for! arnold woudnt be 225lb 6'1 if this was the case,, he would be 250 26 he would be 280 for the height he had...
friend,, it is ALL in the drug ,, the diff in numbers between humans can be 10lb due to genetic structure if everything trained on the body ...if same height and same drug doses and products ,,the look may be diff due to muscle insertions but the size...will be quite the same if on same products and done same things...
it is THE SIN of the cult ,, not of the cult but of the leaders of the cult that make sons pay heavy price,, the lies are very logn and been going on for many many years,, always trying to make it something other than drugs and it is ALL drugs
do you really think a 5'6 fella can walk around 240lbn single digit lol with out hormonizing his mama and papa and his granny too ,, do you really think that when arnold at 6'1 could barely be 230 and he used anything under the sun back then,, including expeimented wiht gh and actualy trained and trained hard!
do you realy think a no one like jeff long will bring his 5'6 to sudenly be 240lb arnold competition weight lol at his midgit 5'6 with out major abuse of hgh and insulina? im talking MAJOR ABUSE including narcotics inorder to counter the side efects from abuse of hormones,, and im talking here life on the abue side
do you really thiink all that can be achieved with some dianabol 20 mg tablets and some 200 mg nandrolona like liar priest drilled in your head for many years?
well i got a big surprize for you ....it CAN NOT,, a midgit that is on hormones to begin with and do the balonie you talk about with little gh sometime and testosterona and nandrolona and some anadola...that midgit will look like the picture i will show you soon here ...i will show you a picture of what is the result of those midgits who get no where and never step on any stage EVER ,, i will show you here a picture of such midgit
but in general... haney was 240lb on stage...and that mean hgh and some insulina ,, when i say some i dotn mean 4 iu lol i mean SOME insulina,, he pulled it ok and knew how to use it right,, he ate solid and clean and that made it easier for him to keep the lines and again he did not! abuse it like today ,, the abuse today is crazy crazy abuse where 5'6 walk around 240lb on stage lol ,, i hope you understand that fella like branch waren is living under the needle at any given minute,, you take his neelde he shrink to 170 so fast you wont be able to say jack,, especialy if you take the gh and insulina,, all of those fellas they are not true bodybnuild,, they are hormone build,, they really dont have the foundation under...branch do have he started young but most of them dont have the foundation look into mr o now day look into many others...it just lack foundation and you see more and more jeff longs that are a joke to bodybuild and are a symtom of the deasese bodybuild is suffering of,,
i will now show you another problem in the wanna be gymasium rats.... this is what im talking about....let me fins pictur
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no you hevnt got me yet,, wait for next posting right in 10 seconds,,
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First guy I ever knew that used slin was back in Florida...........1993.
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here is your lies infront of your faces pupils,,
a filt ,, someone who claim natural status...lie to everyone around him ...a kido some no one in his 20s ,, but! this is the deasese! of today cult,, this is what i blame heris for! this is what i blame the so call leaders of the cult for ,,
i will show you here what natural now day mean
pre deaseae stage ,, normal sane generation nothingness typical yougster
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after being in the heris and the criminals of the cult jaws after months and years of listneing to criminal skip lacour ,, and filt heris ,, and rest of the danta and sons filt...
here he is ,, all natural!... ::)
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just little pro hormone once every 12 months you know andropopers
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after being in the heris and the criminals of the cult jaws after months and years of listneing to criminal skip lacour ,, and filt heris ,, and rest of the danta and sons filt...
here he is ,, all natural!... ::)
Who is he ???
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shut up im not done
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and finaly ,,a picture who show true dedicaiton to bodybuild,, : ) a true natural! LIAR,, lie to everyone around him ,, and will lie forever,, live in cave of drugs ,, and ofcourse all drugs,, 5'6 or 5'5... 220... as i like to say the coach mesurements lol only this is all naturalo lol
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shut up im not done
lol...
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shut up im not done
FILT!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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now i dont hav ea flying fuck who this fella is,, for me it is cancer among society ,, for me this is the reason YOU ARE FUCKED,, you have the balonie bodybuild have because filts like this that are not even in direct faults due to filts like heris!,, nwo this fella is nothing he would place last in every bodybuild competition he enter ,, thats why he probably dont enter any,, BUT GH IS THERE ....AND TESTOSTERONA BLOOF DOSES IS THERE,, AND REST OF THE ANABOLIC IS THERE,, EVERYTHING IS THERE,, BUTHE IS NATURAL!
this is the problem this cult is suffer from ,, and fellas truly belive he is natural ,, truly truly ,, and this! is the prime reason gh15 site is going to be hands down the best website in history of internet bodybuild because! the truth must be out there loud and clear,, this fellass can not go on ,,
you see what he is when natural ,, look like a female ,, again i show you reality !
learn to appreciate what i do here,, i dont want kidos to live illusion ,, and i will bring this to an end
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FILT!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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shut up im not done
More like these, less GHona and shit.
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Love your photoshops, keep them coming ;D
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yes, around 225-230 in 1983
Then boom 240lb plus!
Then late 80s 250lbs
Growth ok, mid-80s, its said to have been round and a select few used it
But slin, I did not know was around pre-90s as a prevalent bbing aid. A previous poster (can't remember who) mentioned strydom using slin in late 80s, BUT, my question is , as you said Haney made the jump to 240 in 84, could he have been using slin already?
Was haney a slin pioneer?
I thought yates was one of the first until today
Tim Belknap is the usual suspect for bringing slin to the attention of bodybuilders, i think from the mid 80's there were few and i mean a very few who started using insulin, Haney was one of them, now i wrote using not abusing, they used small doses just enough to get past that 240lb mark, remember 240lb was considered freak status in the early 80's, and as gh15 has taught us going past 240lb in contest shape doesnt happen without slin
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I had a friend who got taught about growth and insulin from Gary Strydom in 1989. Before that I had never heard of using insulin for BBing.
Same here.
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You sure about that then,looks like you`re out by 10 years,and how do you know what was taken in the 70s,you weren`t born until 1969.
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Parabolan
(trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate)
Parabolan is one of those drugs which appeared briefly (Negma eventually pulled it off the market) and made a huge impact very quickly. Dan Duchaine was the first person to write about this compound in his Underground Steroid Handbook Update Newsletter. In his write up, he speculated that you wouldnt want to go over 2 amps per week of the Original Negma Product (each amp was 76mgs, and if you are wondering why thats so, its because each amp gave the user precisely 50mgs of Trenbolone, once your bodys esterases cleave off the HexaHydroBencyl Carbonate ester ). Unfortunately, not many people really got a chance to experiment with the original Parabolan, as it was pulled off the market very quickly by Negma (discontinued in 1997). That created a very odd situation where the product was used very successfully by a few people for a very short time, then was basically unavailable after that. This basically created a bit of a cult following for the drug. Decades passed, and counterfeits stormed the market until Duchaine (again) wrote an article on extracting the Trenbolone from Finaplex Pellets, and then sterilizing them, in order to create your own Trenbolone Acetate, although this wasnt Parabolan, it soon curtailed the counterfeit craze for Parabolan. Tren was Tren, in most peoples eyes, regardless of the ester. "Fina kits" (a kit which enabled the user to make their own tren) then flooded the market, utilizing a loophole whereby the pellets and kit were both legal to buy, although clearly, making and using an injectable steroid in your kitchen is illegal. Flashing forward a few years, Trenbolone Acetate became available by many Underground Labs, then Trenbolone Enanthate became available,
Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Parabolan.php#ixzz1mGvMoOI1
Correct. gH15 is off by 10 years. I remember learning about Parabolin around 1984-5 from Bob Sear. According to Anabolics 2002 Parabolin and Finajet were two different esters of Tren and Parabolin was discontinued in 1997.
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Correct. gH15 is off by 10 years. I remember learning about Parabolin around 1984-5 from Bob Sear. According to Anabolics 2002 Parabolin and Finajet were two different esters of Tren and Parabolin was discontinued in 1997.
im never wrong,, paraboan and trenbolona are indeed 2 diff ester but final result is same damn thing,, you want to go with treenbolona for the shorter ester,, as simple as that ,, if you think im some kido that oplay with you i got news for you ,, i dont just write what i say I MEAn what say ,,
im not off by 10 years im exactly up to date on everything
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you knwo what,, lets take the asumption parabolan ws never created,, ok ? we go with you,, never heard of parabolan fuck negma fuck the all france nation ,, they trators anyways,, corect? they stil haev fuckin trenbolona finaaaaaaaas in americana and europe for cattle,, TRENBOLONA ACE is what we all chase after,, i cant remember once in my life that i took trenbolona enantate other than to test it ,, fina was there since late 60s ,, all through 70s ,, fuck parabolan this is not even the issue,, the issue is the over all compound called trenbolona wether it is ace or hex or whatever ...the case is trenbolona and the short trenbolona is what we bodybuild like and what works
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Finaplix (Trenbolone Acetate)
Finaplix is an injectable anabolic/androgenic steroid which is derived from the the steroid nandrolone. It’s activity however is quite different to the point that direct comparisons between the two are difficult to make. Finaplix is a non estrogenic steroid and is considerably both more anabolic and androgenic than its parent nandrolone on a milligram for milligram basis. Finaplix was first extensively studied in 1967, described during a series of studies of experiments into synthetic steroids
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Finaplix was first extensively studied in 1967, described during a series of studies of experiments into synthetic steroids
for all the retards that can't read i made it bigger
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Parabolin was definitely used in the 70's, especially in Europe.
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Finaplix (Trenbolone Acetate)
Finaplix is an injectable anabolic/androgenic steroid which is derived from the the steroid nandrolone. It’s activity however is quite different to the point that direct comparisons between the two are difficult to make. Finaplix is a non estrogenic steroid and is considerably both more anabolic and androgenic than its parent nandrolone on a milligram for milligram basis. Finaplix was first extensively studied in 1967, described during a series of studies of experiments into synthetic steroids
YEAR 1 9 6 7
Finaplix was first extensively studied in 1967, described during a series of studies of experiments into synthetic steroids
for all the retards that can't read i made it bigger
Still cant read...can it be a big bigger please? I only read at about the size of 9 inches
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Still cant read...can it be a big bigger please? I only read at about the size of 9 inches
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fuckin fellas her eare fucking nuts,, llol they tell me how to build the wall of china when i fucking build the berlin wall ,,
THERE IS A REASON THAT UNTIL L1965 YOU DIDNT SEE BALONIE LOL ,, and then boom 1965 and on ...everyone grew so nicely lol ,,they think that becaue THEY didnt use them no one else did ,, anrold fucking didnt tell no one what kind of spageti he ate for diner you think he would tell back then what he took lol ,, who in their right mind will give secret to others,, bodybuilders?
IM A FALLEN ANGEL,, get it in your head IM HATED WITH PASSION among the top ,, with passion ,,
F A L L E N A N G E L
even the ones who are ok with me are told to hate me ,, for went down of heaven BETRAYED my special society and brought some heaven to the common fellas ,, this is my sin
fallen angel!
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im never wrong,, paraboan and trenbolona are indeed 2 diff ester but final result is same damn thing,, you want to go with treenbolona for the shorter ester,, as simple as that ,, if you think im some kido that oplay with you i got news for you ,, i dont just write what i say I MEAn what say ,,
im not off by 10 years im exactly up to date on everything
gh15 approved
I gEve to yOu BEEG kiSS on botH chEek for briNging to gEtbig childReN mOst accuratE infornationS anywHere in bodybulting!
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this is the 2 years yo uneed to remember,,
any way you look in it ...its all drugs friends all drugs,,
OFCOURSE YOU NEED TO RESPOND VERY WELL TO THE DRUGS AND BE ABLE TO NOT GET SICK,, remember when you take 20 iu gh every day with all the trenbolona and primobolana and anadrola and testosterona...you can get sickly letargic and then you just say fuck it and dont inject when need to and wait few dyas and then couple weeks lol the ones who get to the top...their body take everything ,, they never get sick to begin with ,, only when addint narcotics,,
the art here is to never get sick and be able to respond very very good to the hormones,, then ofcourse beter be sure hormones are legit,, for! if they are not ...you can inject the all niagra falls into your ass and you wont see a damn thing
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Parabolin was definitely used in the 70's, especially in Europe.
I wasn't definitely sure, since I wasn't around then, and wouldn't know, but have heard nubret was bringing it in to the states in the 70s
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Is that the same as was being sold as M1T over the counter a few years back? Supposed to be the strongest oral.
No, many confuse the two given the internet shorthand used now, Methyl-Test was a testosterone tablet called Andriod usually. It was used usually like Halotestin was/is. Old, old steroid that was very estrogenic.
M1T was Methyl - 1 - Test which is different.
The Redi-jects were 20 g, some even 18 g :o.
A good place to look for start dates on certain drugs easily is the google books feature, Trenbolone starts to be mentioned 1968 as a vet. drug. Fina-Jet and Finaplix are well known by the mid-70's, and Parabolan a tad later.