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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
You're kidding right?
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are you serious?
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maybe you'll get choked out by a trannyland girl for this ridiculous thread.
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Yes. Serious. It's easy to say Zane but I think they both got to similar body weights. Zane was not a big guy but he was nicely proportioned. If you took zyzz back to that era he would have given Zane a run for his money. Bodybuilding is also about presence and personality and that might have given zyzz the edge.
Put up some photos and compare.
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Zyzz didn't often do the mandatory poses, did he?
His tattoos would count against him too.
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This guy should be slapped,then banned for life. :-\
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zyzz was thicker and had a better haircut.
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frank already won since hes still alive
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Yes. Serious. It's easy to say Zane but I think they both got to similar body weights. Zane was not a big guy but he was nicely proportioned. If you took zyzz back to that era he would have given Zane a run for his money. Bodybuilding is also about presence and personality and that might have given zyzz the edge.
Put up some photos and compare.
maybe you put some up you motherfucking shitcunt?
on second thought, just fuck off and die
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frank had about 40lb of lean muscle on that moron kido if i think who i think it is ,, atleast 40lb on him of lean muscle ,, frank was big ,, 190lb 4% is huge,, at 5'9 lol are you fellas nuts lol 5'9 190 -200lb 4% is the maximum you wil get on steroids only not even a lb over
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maybe you put some up you motherfucking shitcunt?
on second thought, just fuck off and die
well said
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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
BDB would take this matchup.
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frank had about 40lb of lean muscle on that moron kido if i think who i think it is ,, atleast 40lb on him of lean muscle ,, frank was big ,, 190lb 4% is huge,, at 5'9 lol are you fellas nuts lol 5'9 190 -200lb 4% is the maximum you wil get on steroids only not even a lb over
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people seriously think zane was a twink, a swimmer, small..
5'9" 190-200 4% and perfectly proportioned gutless form, wtf
If it was easy, thered be millions of zanes treading the planet
Instead we have Zyzz's and twats comparing him to zane
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people seriously think zane was a twink, a swimmer, small..
5'9" 190-200 4% and perfectly proportioned gutless form, wtf
If it was easy, thered be millions of zanes treading the planet
Instead we have Zyzz's and twats comparing him to zane
zane was huge,, much biger than fellas like groink,, bigger than slin,,felas dont get what it is to be 4% lol 200lb 4% true 4% is HUGE and this is only on steroids mjority of his career,,190 was only on steroids,,
5'9 190 true 4% is very impressive numbers for someone only on steroids ,, very impressive
thats why i laugh when you have filts scambags mother fuck liek lay nortom around ,, fella is junkie and is a sociopath
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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
HAHAHA, you sir, have won the lifetime member of the bell-end club for this post :D
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Reading this thread is making my eyes bleed
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Hey kids: Maybe gib didn't wake up this morning for a self-owning, but that's what he got. Be careful, out there.
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Holy fuck @ comparing some dickhead loser to a legend like Zane.
Zane - multiple Olympia winner. Classic physique. Intelligent man. Legend of the sport.
Zyzz - insecure fuckup who was so eager to hear how 'fully sick' he looked that he went and fucking topped himself by accident by sitting in a sauna whilst on diuretics. Fucking idiot. No wonder the general public think bodybuilders are all as dumb as bread.
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/zane/zf55.jpg)
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2-2.jpg)
i think that settles that.
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Zane was a 'smaller' bodybuilder, but a complete one and again he was a BODYBUILDER. This 'zyzz' was just some wannabe tough guy who abused everything and died for it...
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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
I don't know about all that, but i'm sure you've sucked a penis or ten recently
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^^^^^ Zane fucking awsome right there ^^^^^^
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zane was huge,, much biger than fellas like groink,, bigger than slin,,felas dont get what it is to be 4% lol 200lb 4% true 4% is HUGE and this is only on steroids mjority of his career,,190 was only on steroids,,
5'9 190 true 4% is very impressive numbers for someone only on steroids ,, very impressive
thats why i laugh when you have filts scambags mother fuck liek lay nortom around ,, fella is junkie and is a sociopath
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Spot on.
Amazing how many people don't get that.
(http://www.thearnoldfans.com/pictures/classic_10/Zane_Arnold.jpg)
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/history/history_72mro4.jpg)
(http://www.rippedworkouts.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/old-bodybuilders.jpg)
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(http://www.davedraper.com/pmwiki/uploads//PmWiki/FrankZane.jpg)
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Epic backfire in your face. This turned into a Zane thread!
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(http://www.davedraper.com/pmwiki/uploads//PmWiki/FrankZane.jpg)
Damn.
Anyone calling Zane a "swimmer" should get shot on the spot.
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frank already won since hes still alive
Ow. The devil is reading him this post.
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Frank Zane is like Lee Haney: professional, nice, classy
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Hey kids: Maybe gib didn't wake up this morning for a self-owning, but that's what he got. Be careful, out there.
Sometimes you just know where a thread is headed.....
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maybe you put some up you motherfucking shitcunt?
on second thought, just fuck off and die
Tough guy huh. Maybe you better go back to playin with that small pole of yours.
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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
Plain stupidity at it's finest.Zane won olympia,and is still alive and kicking at 60,zyz died like a dumbhead. ::)
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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/zane/zf55.jpg)
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2-2.jpg)
i think that settles that.
1st photo = perfection.
2nd photo = tatooed gym rat with a stylish haircut
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I am a fan of both of their physiques, but Zane would obviously win.
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Both great physiques. Both very balanced.
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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
Zane is a 3 time Olympia winner.....Don't ask such foolish questions.
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190 @ 4% and BONE DRY is ALOT of muscle
compare that to a wet 190 @ 8% and that's a HUGE DIFEFERNCE
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Fran Zane was one of the best bodybuilders during the best era in bodybuilding. To this day there are people that will argue that Zane represented exactly what a bodybuilder should look like.
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ARe you serious?
Zane was a oldschool my brother...
Perfect body,muscle size,definition
Zyzz is a fitness model and abuse on drugs
Good body! but poor mind...
Zane is a exemple of bodybuilding way of life
Zyzz is a guy that workout to fuck girls..
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hahah, i think that is a serious insult to zane, honestly
(but zyzz would win ;D)
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8)
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Easy win!
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8)
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8)
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Zane was everything that was right in bodybuilding, Zyzz was everything that was wrong in society.
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This is a great pic to show to the unimformed what zane was
He had perfect lines and dwarfed the dwarf, not only in height but muscular size
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(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy163/saidaisuke9/successful-troll.jpg)
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ban the OP...Zyzz was a fucking twink an Zane looked like a god in the flesh...
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this fucker zyzz will be fucking canonised next ::)
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Zane = 3 time Mr. Olympia
Zzzzzy = full time attention whore
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I can't believe what little respect Zane gets on this board. He won the Olympia three times beating guys bigger than him. One of the best of all time.
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I can't believe what little respect Zane gets on this board. He won the Olympia three times beating guys bigger than him. One of the best of all time.
No shit huh ?
If you have perfect proportions,great posing, and a small waist,you just don`t rate! ;D
I will say that I`m glad gh15 appreciates his physique because this will sway the sheep into giving Frank his props! ;)
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I was always wondering how strong Zane was,
yes most bodybuilders don't train for strength at all, but sure they do check their strength once in a while...
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I can't believe what little respect Zane gets on this board. He won the Olympia three times beating guys bigger than him. One of the best of all time.
I think Zane, Nubret and Haney get a shitty deal on GB but them's the breaks.
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No shit huh ?
If you have perfect proportions,great posing, and a small waist,you just don`t rate! ;D
I will say that I`m glad gh15 appreciates his physique because this will say the sheep into giving Frank his props! ;)
zane was actually my first and main motivation for bodybuilding and achieving a certain physique (then obviously it was zyzz once i saw him ;D)
all jokes aside though, definitely one of my favorite pros. him, arnold and nubret were legends in their own right.
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I think Zane, Nubret and Haney get a shitty deal on GB but them's the breaks.
haney... i can somewhat understand because he always gets compared to dorian and then it's stupid arguments about whether he could have matched him in size during his later years
but nubret was one of the greatest bodybuilders so it makes absolutely no sense to criticize what he had accomplished with his body, using half the shit pros do now.
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Ron should delete this thread!!!!
Zane all day
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maybe you put some up you motherfucking shitcunt?
on second thought, just fuck off and die
LOL....keeping it real right der
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Zane also had some decent numbers in some early powerlifting contests. So he wasn't all show and no go.
Plus Zane = alive, Zyzz = Dead. Zane says "Winning"...
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Zzyz has chicken legs in comparison to Zane.
Zane > Zzyz
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frank zappa
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Zane = 3 time Mr. Olympia
Zzzzzy = full time attention whore
Zane = alive and healthy
Zyzzyzyzyz = "Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."
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Zane = alive and healthy
Zyzzyzyzyz = "Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."
LOL ;D
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By the Zesty Zither Of Zues!!!
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Zane is still sane, Zyzz however.... :-\
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I blow Twink Zane out of the water. 8)
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what kind of fucking retard would even dare to compare that circus act zyzz to frank zane, let alone ask which one is better. seriously.
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I blow Twink Zane out of the water. 8)
i'm sure dude,,,,i think u blow zane in the water too....
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lol atthis tread
zane was H U G E ,, no one on this boarding is as big as frank zane lol you fellas are nuts,, you confuse gut size with legit size,, you confuse hgh and insulina size with real muscle lol ,, this got to be a joke
there is a reason you all get down to 181lb before walk on stage with 4% lol he was 190lb .....9 extra lean lbs lol
and to al the 200lb+ on stage ...your size is hgh if you are under 5'10 5'11,,that mean you wont be able to keep it when gh is out of blood,,not legit size
frank zane is second only to the levels of arnold and ron colman ,,
i like it how some fellas here that cary 240 lb of SHIT talk abotu frank zane like he was nothing to write home about,, fellas here dont understand what it is to hav eevery musculr develop and hav eno water between skin and muscle ,,they also consider fat within in the muscle as legit size lol
let me put it this way for you ,, frank zane...was just as big as evin centorini but! with out the insulina and high dose gh....same size friends,,evib heavier bone which would make him look like a retard next to frank zane if! were on same products
now beofre dj191 run here and shout word word ,, i would like to say that he is not even on the sphere of frank zane ....he is about 60lb of lean muscle below ....
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i'm sure dude,,,,i think u blow zane in the water too....
;D
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Take the year Zane won the O. If Zyzz was there in his best shape who do you think would have won?
Only the NAIVE one would ask this question :P :P :P!.
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lol atthis tread
zane was H U G E ,, no one on this boarding is as big as frank zane lol you fellas are nuts,, you confuse gut size with legit size,, you confuse hgh and insulina size with real muscle lol ,, this got to be a joke
I read somewhere Zane got the advice to be bigger early 80s, and he was bigger for sure. But the jury/audience didn't like it so it turned out wrong for Frank...
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lol atthis tread
zane was H U G E ,, no one on this boarding is as big as frank zane lol you fellas are nuts,, you confuse gut size with legit size,, you confuse hgh and insulina size with real muscle lol ,, this got to be a joke
there is a reason you all get down to 181lb before walk on stage with 4% lol he was 190lb .....9 extra lean lbs lol
and to al the 200lb+ on stage ...your size is hgh if you are under 5'10 5'11,,that mean you wont be able to keep it when gh is out of blood,,not legit size
frank zane is second only to the levels of arnold and ron colman ,,
i like it how some fellas here that cary 240 lb of SHIT talk abotu frank zane like he was nothing to write home about,, fellas here dont understand what it is to hav eevery musculr develop and hav eno water between skin and muscle ,,they also consider fat within in the muscle as legit size lol
let me put it this way for you ,, frank zane...was just as big as evin centorini but! with out the insulina and high dose gh....same size friends,,evib heavier bone which would make him look like a retard next to frank zane if! were on same products
now beofre dj191 run here and shout word word ,, i would like to say that he is not even on the sphere of frank zane ....he is about 60lb of lean muscle below ....
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he was low 190 and highest 205 in top shape,,carved granite ,,deep abs,,deep creviced legs,back with upper striations on certain poses in upper back,calves matched quads,arms matched torso,,and top that off with great presentation,polish,posing and can stand relaxed and not look like watermelon's under armpits stance.
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I read somewhere Zane got the advice to be bigger early 80s, and he was bigger for sure. But the jury/audience didn't like it so it turned out wrong for Frank...
frank zane ....was bigger than ANY ONE ON THIS BOARDING lol aside from us profesionals of 90s and 2000s but ! even compare to us....he ws biger since he didnt touch insulina,, was atleast same size,,
hgh + insulina = not legit size,, it is impressive ilusion and you canmesure it with volume but it is not! legit size,, you cant go and say it since everyone is on it and you will lose with out it ...but if you think someone like grouink and i dont know why i bring him i just rmember tha name its catchy ,, but if you think someone would even notice groink when frank zane was around in the 70s or 80s,, you woudnt even notice the groinks,, felas here dont know what it is to walk 4-6% dry,, they just dont ,, they do it on hgh lol ...but thefatr is hold inside the muscle due to insulina,, this is why guts are absolitly huge....i mean look in the guts of the fellas here lol its not enough to say you are 240 if 40 lb of it is in the gut it looks digusting i dont care how muscular you seem to be or how volumized you seem to be ,, any 165lb fella in top condition wil wipe floor with 230lb in top condition that has a gut!yet now day you cant get anywhere with out a gut for ....you need more weight on scale...
in other words...frank zane was the definition of bodybuildr,, not swimmer nothing,, fellas use hormones day in day out only to be 1906% lol he was 4%! ! !huge diff between 6 and 4
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frank zane ....was bigger than ANY ONE ON THIS BOARDING lol aside from us profesionals of 90s and 2000s but ! even compare to us....he ws biger since he didnt touch insulina,, was atleast same size,,
hgh + insulina = not legit size,, it is impressive ilusion and you canmesure it with volume but it is not! legit size,, you cant go and say it since everyone is on it and you will lose with out it ...but if you think someone like grouink and i dont know why i bring him i just rmember tha name its catchy ,, but if you think someone would even notice groink when frank zane was around in the 70s or 80s,, you woudnt even notice the groinks,, felas here dont know what it is to walk 4-6% dry,, they just dont ,, they do it on hgh lol ...but thefatr is hold inside the muscle due to insulina,, this is why guts are absolitly huge....i mean look in the guts of the fellas here lol its not enough to say you are 240 if 40 lb of it is in the gut it looks digusting i dont care how muscular you seem to be or how volumized you seem to be ,, any 165lb fella in top condition wil wipe floor with 230lb in top condition that has a gut!yet now day you cant get anywhere with out a gut for ....you need more weight on scale...
in other words...frank zane was the definition of bodybuildr,, not swimmer nothing,, fellas use hormones day in day out only to be 1906% lol he was 4%! ! !huge diff between 6 and 4
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I will say this. It's stupid to compare a 22yr old kid who simply worked out to improve his looks to a professional bodybuilder. Zyzz was very good at what he was trying to do and that can't be taken from him. A more appropriate comparison would be to compare Zyzz to one of the Phsique pros. I think he would win shows in that division. In any event, Zyzz had a fantastic phsique, and anyone who takes that away from him is in denial.
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I will say this. It's stupid to compare a 22yr old kid who simply worked out to improve his looks to a professional bodybuilder. Zyzz was very good at what he was trying to do and that can't be taken from him. A more appropriate comparison would be to compare Zyzz to one of the Phsique pros. I think he would win shows in that division. In any event, Zyzz had a fantastic phsique, and anyone who takes that away from him is in denial.
nice compliment to him to even compare him to Zane who is an all time great.
Also it should be noted that in most pics zane was 10 years or more older.
A lot of bodybuilding progress happens from 20 to 35. This kid zyzz was just starting out. Sad to see someone with so much energy die so young.
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nice compliment to him to even compare him to Zane who is an all time great.
Also it should be noted that in most pics zane was 10 years or more older.
A lot of bodybuilding progress happens from 20 to 35. This kid zyzz was just starting out. Sad to see someone with so much energy die so young.
I agree totally. People hate on Zyzz for no reason, other than jealousy. He was a young kid. So what if he was a little cocky and immature? He had a ton of charisma and in real life, he was liked by people. The fact that he is still talked about and missed by so many people, shows how much more of an impact he had than many of these ifbb clowns. Even when they win 5 shows, people still don't talk about them much. It's easy to be a big hairy mass monster with hormones but Zyzzs physique took more than that.
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this kid can nto be compare to zane ,, he is about the level of simply huge from this boarding,, the kid just doesnt have the thickness ,, he lack the tose development,, even the arms suck ,, uusualy when you have balonie torse you have good arms...he doesnt have either,, he has abdiminals due to him being 6% ,, he has good skin tone due to him having small amount of water between skin and muscle due to diuretic in some cases i noticed
but he is more comparable to the simply huge fella from this boarding,, both ssame level more or less
frank zane lol you fellas lost your brains
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this kid can nto be compare to zane ,, he is about the level of simply huge from this boarding,, the kid just doesnt have the thickness ,, he lack the tose development,, even the arms suck ,, uusualy when you have balonie torse you have good arms...he doesnt have either,, he has abdiminals due to him being 6% ,, he has good skin tone due to him having small amount of water between skin and muscle due to diuretic in some cases i noticed
but he is more comparable to the simply huge fella from this boarding,, both ssame level more or less
frank zane lol you fellas lost your brains
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Obviously comparing the kid to Frank Zane is crazy. That is totally delusional. But Zyzz had an aesthetic look that many guys dream of being able to achieve themselves.
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na this kid had abercombie and fatch look he has abdominals ,, thats it ,, he has them for he is lean ,, nothing to wreite home about doesnt even remotely resemble bodybuild
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Evans gonna kill him.
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Are you kiddin me?the king of all douchebags xyzzz or whatever is nothin compared to Zane
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I don't think Frank at his best is much bigger than me at all. BETTER, yes, but bigger? LOL.
Call me delusional, almighty one, but he's 3" taller and I'm 70 lbs. over his competitive weight wearing 33" jeans. I AM fat and totally full of water, but I have a reasonable idea of what I look like and weigh dieted down -- and for one, I know I have bigger than 17" arms in shape (note: I'm not natty nor do I pretend to be). Mentzer told me that, at the '79 Olympia, his arms were a full two inches bigger than Frank's -- that is. 18.5" versus 16.5".
Frank didn't win shit on the basis of size. He had a good frame, was a good poser (read: he knew how to hide his disadvantages. Did you ever see him hit a full-on crab pose? Nope. He knew it'd make him look skinny), was funny and a smart man. But bigger than most juiced Getbiggers?
Again, begging your pardon, mighty one, but that's far-fetched.
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conditioned size is all that mater,, i keep telling you this again and again ,, if you take 2 pictures ou will see that only thing your whors look in is what they can see,, and any fella truly ripped not imaginary ripped but truly rippled... not lean ripped! any fellas that is truly ripped will look more impressive and bigger to the eye of the whore than the perma bulkers as yo ucan it here,,
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16.5 can look like 18.5 when ripped! ,,i keep repeting it but since no one actualy do it...you no idea what it is to be truly shreded with seperation to the last detail of the muscle ....true 160lb is small but if you are 180lb this way ....you have very good size on you
its like with all those fake naturals who been to hormones testosterona equipona halodrola they all say did nothing but oh it did lol thye expected miricles to gani 100lb of quality muscle 20 lb of quality muscle lol in reality it all did to them something and it is put them with the ability to get shreded at 165 lol,,
the more i read this place ,, since i actulay read lately ,, the more i read this place the moe i think this place has too many teenagers for my taste and realy not true bodybuildrs,, i actualy read postings last few months,, before i didnt read a damn thing just reponded ,, now i read..and its amazing the balonie that is said here by some fellas
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I am a fan of both of their physiques, but Zane would obviously win.
How the FUCK can you even compare that to Frank Zane??
You gotta be smoking crystal meth to do that.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/frankzane3.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62311-1/21+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
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na this kid had abercombie and fatch look he has abdominals ,, thats it ,, he has them for he is lean ,, nothing to wreite home about doesnt even remotely resemble bodybuild
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That was the case for a long time but at the end when Zyzz kicked it up a notch, he did carry substantial mass, lean mass. Of course he was nothing compared to Zyzz though. Only a kid would make that comparison.
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The kid ZZZy whatever his name was had a damn good physique if you take away the ugly fucking tattos,but he isn`t comparable to Frank Zane in any way shape or form.
And for the bigger guys who say they`re bigger than Zane.......fine,but you wouldn`t beat him in a contest as he has beaten legends in this sport all of his competitive years.........LEGENDS!!
I myself personally have beaten tons of guys in the Masters division that weighed over 200 pounds and all I weighed was between 154 and 165 depending on the time frame.
Bigger isn`t better..........better is better!!
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The kid ZZZy whatever his name was had a damn good physique if you take away the ugly fucking tattos,but he isn`t comparable to Frank Zane in any way shape or form.
And for the bigger guys who say they`re bigger than Zane.......fine,but you wouldn`t beat him in a contest as he has beaten legends in this sport all of his competitive years.........LEGENDS!!
I myself personally have beaten tons of guys in the Masters division that weighed over 200 pounds and all I weighed was between 154 and 165 depending on the time frame.
Bigger isn`t better..........better is better!!
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62291-1/11+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg) < (http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4.jpg)
dont compare zane at his best vs zyzz. Its an unfair comparison for zane had a lot more years of training AND drugs on his belt.
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Another legend that kicked mucho ass and was the flawless 165 pound Mohammed Makkyway..........165 pounds and places in the Olympia.
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(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62291-1/11+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg) < (http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/4.jpg)
dont compare zane at his best vs zyzz. Its an unfair comparison for zane had a lot more years of training AND drugs on his belt.
I didn`t compare him to Zane........I`m not that stupid that guy gib was the guy who compared him to Zane.
Anyone that would is nutz!!
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dorky dorky dork
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MKW3Fyw2zvk/SbZqEBer4PI/AAAAAAAABVc/vjp_G1IEMKs/s320/Frank+Zane+disguised+as+an+old+man.jpg)
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And Zzzzy wasn`t dorky looking ? LOL ;D
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/fz38.jpg)
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I don't think Frank at his best is much bigger than me at all. BETTER, yes, but bigger? LOL.
Call me delusional, almighty one, but he's 3" taller and I'm 70 lbs. over his competitive weight wearing 33" jeans. I AM fat and totally full of water, but I have a reasonable idea of what I look like and weigh dieted down -- and for one, I know I have bigger than 17" arms in shape (note: I'm not natty nor do I pretend to be). Mentzer told me that, at the '79 Olympia, his arms were a full two inches bigger than Frank's -- that is. 18.5" versus 16.5".
Frank didn't win shit on the basis of size. He had a good frame, was a good poser (read: he knew how to hide his disadvantages. Did you ever see him hit a full-on crab pose? Nope. He knew it'd make him look skinny), was funny and a smart man. But bigger than most juiced Getbiggers?
Again, begging your pardon, mighty one, but that's far-fetched.
if u can't post pic how can u compare on just what u say alone?cmon yea zane mastered hiding flaws,,so did arnold,haney,gaspari,,ect....
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"zyzz":
*crooked bow legs, feet pointing in different direction as knee joint and or tibia
*worse calves than me (LOL!)
*laughable thigh development at best
*good waist
*narrow shoulders
*flat chest
*long giraffe neck with weird traps
*disappointing shoulders and arms
*shit back
frank zane:
perfect
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if u can't post pic how can u compare on just what u say alone?cmon yea zane mastered hiding flaws,,so did arnold,haney,gaspari,,ect....
Besides,Zane put his own slant on a lot of poses that suited his body better than traditional ones like the crab most muscular.
His hands on hips most muscular looks far better for his bodytype.......he knew it,so exploited it.
Nubret......always stood with one leg in front of the other in most head on shots to conceal weak quads........Arnold twisted at the waist lot as did Zane.
Part of old school bodybuilding was to present the stronger areas,while hiding the weaker ones...it was part of Posing 101.
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Besides,Zane put his own slant on a lot of poses that suited his body better than traditional ones like the crab most muscular.
His hands on hips most muscular looks far better for his bodytype.......he knew it,so exploited it.
Nubret......always stood with one leg in front of the other in most head on shots to conceal weak quads........Arnold twisted at the waist lot as did Zane.
Part of old school bodybuilding was to present the stronger areas,while hiding the weaker ones...it was part of Posing 101.
wes it's not like zane had to trick with waist like arnold,,,zane had nice waist and deep serratus.oblique,nice ab structure depth,,,gaspari tilted his hips on fdb to keep focus of his thicker type waist and give illusion to focus on his torso thickness overall.
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wes it's not like zane had to trick with waist like arnold,,,zane had nice waist and deep serratus.oblique,nice ab structure depth,,,gaspari tilted his hips on fdb to keep focus of his thicker type waist and give illusion to focus on his torso thickness overall.
I hear ya` bro......these days no one tries to hid a blocky waistline because there is no more waistline.......just guts ! ;D
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thing with zyzz was he was only lifting for 2 years and he went to that physique from someone who looked like apply85 (9 inch arms, 140 pounds, etc...). kid could have done some damage if he didn't kill himself with all the drug abuse hahah
he did 3 grams of gear a week, but at least he died swole. rip, died like a true bodybuilder from heart disease at the age of 22
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thing with zyzz was he was only lifting for 2 years and he went to that physique from someone who looked like apply85 (9 inch arms, 140 pounds, etc...). kid could have done some damage if he didn't kill himself with all the drug abuse hahah
he did 3 grams of gear a week, but at least he died swole. rip, died like a true bodybuilder from heart disease at the age of 22
u seem ok,,but last thing u wrote is nothing to be proud of.
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"zyzz":
*crooked bow legs, feet pointing in different direction as knee joint and or tibia
*worse calves than me (LOL!)
*laughable thigh development at best
*good waist
*narrow shoulders
*flat chest
*long giraffe neck with weird traps
*disappointing shoulders and arms
*shit back
frank zane:
perfect
^^ this
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thing with zyzz was he was only lifting for 2 years and he went to that physique from someone who looked like apply85 (9 inch arms, 140 pounds, etc...). kid could have done some damage if he didn't kill himself with all the drug abuse hahah
he did 3 grams of gear a week, but at least he died swole. rip, died like a true bodybuilder from heart disease at the age of 22
Dead = not too good my friend! :)
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I don't know why people joke about the kids death. He was obviously a good enough person that tons of complete strangers came to his funeral to pay respects. Only immature shmucks would joke about an innocent persons death. This kid didn't harm anyone.
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i thought nubret did that to make his waist look smaller
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/b/4/b4cd5-serge_young.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4SgJWSRiz8o/TbACj7uhGHI/AAAAAAAAGuc/iq2DLdF_D_c/s320/serge+nubret15.jpg)
^^ notice waist i smore sideways but upper torso is more facing the camera, not completely but mre
zane did same thing:
(http://acquireyok3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/frank-zane-abs.jpg)
the torso is very slightly twisted so that the waist looks smaller and shoulders look wider
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Dead = not too good my friend! :)
yeah haha i was being sarcastic ;D
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I don't know why people joke about the kids death. He was obviously a good enough person that tons of complete strangers came to his funeral to pay respects. Only immature shmucks would joke about an innocent persons death. This kid didn't harm anyone.
not harming anyone doesn't make you innocent
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I don't know why people joke about the kids death. He was obviously a good enough person that tons of complete strangers came to his funeral to pay respects. Only immature shmucks would joke about an innocent persons death. This kid didn't harm anyone.
"Innocent....innocent of what...?"
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yeah haha i was being sarcastic ;D
I knew that! :)
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i thought nubret did that to make his waist look smaller
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/b/4/b4cd5-serge_young.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4SgJWSRiz8o/TbACj7uhGHI/AAAAAAAAGuc/iq2DLdF_D_c/s320/serge+nubret15.jpg)
^^ notice waist i smore sideways but upper torso is more facing the camera, not completely but mre
zane did same thing:
(http://acquireyok3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/frank-zane-abs.jpg)
the torso is very slightly twisted so that the waist looks smaller and shoulders look wider
Nubret had weak quads in comparison to his upper body............most pics,one leg in front of the other to hide this,but in contests it was impossible to do,that`s why he never beat Arnold,plus the fact that politics wouldn`t have let him win anyway.
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I don't know why people joke about the kids death. He was obviously a good enough person that tons of complete strangers came to his funeral to pay respects. Only immature shmucks would joke about an innocent persons death. This kid didn't harm anyone.
No ones putting him down,just saying he`s not comparable to Mr. Olympia.
I said he looked great in one of my posts in this thread.........dorky,but good build.
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wes knows his bodybuilding
(http://www.drdarden.com/forum_images/391942.1115157890259.arnolsSergeOliva.jpeg)
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wes knows his bodybuilding
(http://www.drdarden.com/forum_images/391942.1115157890259.arnolsSergeOliva.jpeg)
I AM BODYBUILDING !! ;D
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How the FUCK can you even compare that to Frank Zane??
You gotta be smoking crystal meth to do that.
(http://www.ilovespam.com/frankzane3.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62311-1/21+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
The thread title dictated a comparison and I state that Zane would "obviously" win, calm fucking down.
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I'm not a big Zane fan...everybody raves about his classic lines and proportions....i just don't see it
He had weird abs, his waist wasn't all that small, you rarely see a pic of him not twisted at the waist..or head on.
Sorry...just being honest. I think he looks great in some shots...in others I'm underwhelmed..i don't see it.
Now realize i'm talking relatively , he's one of the all-time greats, no doubt...but just not as great as everyone else thinks...IMO
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he steals the shot in every group photo, even with arnold in the picture
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that shot of nubret in the red is fucken umbelievable.....looks like a greek god that came to life. no homo
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looking at that shot serge has at least 15-20 pounds on frank zane....
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thing with zyzz was he was only lifting for 2 years and he went to that physique from someone who looked like apply85 (9 inch arms, 140 pounds, etc...). kid could have done some damage if he didn't kill himself with all the drug abuse hahah
he did 3 grams of gear a week, but at least he died swole. rip, died like a true bodybuilder from heart disease at the age of 22
he did?
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he did?
He didn't. He looked like someone who was using, not abusing. He wasn't even that big. He obviously was a user both from his physique and the fact that his brother was actually busted for having them, but he didn't have the look of an abuser.
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Oh..and some small ass arms too. sorry guys
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Perfection ::)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/fz38.jpg)
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I'm not a big Zane fan...everybody raves about his classic lines and proportions....i just don't see it
He had weird abs, his waist wasn't all that small, you rarely see a pic of him not twisted at the waist..or head on.
Sorry...just being honest. I think he looks great in some shots...in others I'm underwhelmed..i don't see it.
Now realize i'm talking relatively , he's one of the all-time greats, no doubt...but just not as great as everyone else thinks...IMO
"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" (no homo). I can't understand how Lee Haney won the Mr O 8 times in a row. I "know" he was a great bodybuilder and all but I can't see why he was so great. Doesn't mean I'm right, just that everyone has different opinions.
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You mirin bra?
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"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" (no homo). I can't understand how Lee Haney won the Mr O 8 times in a row. I "know" he was a great bodybuilder and all but I can't see why he was so great. Doesn't mean I'm right, just that everyone has different opinions.
I'm not a fan of BBers with weak arms, and i know that sounds self-serving, maybe it is...I dunno. but it just throws everything off for me.
Haney was great though his chest and back were amazing
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Oh..and some small ass arms too. sorry guys
YOU FUCKING HATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL ;D
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Congrats....most ridiculous thread in the history of getbig....
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Congrats....most ridiculous thread in the history of getbig....
i concur ,,,,,,also jizz had some sort of animal residing on his noggin that i gladly would taken a nine iron to
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i concur ,,,,,,also jizz had some sort of animal residing on his noggin that i gladly would taken a nine iron to
Haha Jizz.. This thread is rather ridicolous. Comparing an all time great to a gymrat.
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Haha Jizz.. This thread is rather ridicolous. Comparing an all time great to a gymrat.
All things considered, Zyzz was a good deal better than a "gymrat"..Whether you think he's a monumental douche or not, he was put together quite well, as far as a pleasing build goes. of course frank Zane takes a giant shit on his head, but this is a dumbass thread to begin with
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Zane's arms were proportioned to the rest of his body, great proportions and condition but I think Zane's symmetry/ lines/shape are overrated.
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OP should be banned
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this kid can nto be compare to zane ,, he is about the level of simply huge from this boarding,, the kid just doesnt have the thickness ,, he lack the tose development,, even the arms suck ,, uusualy when you have balonie torse you have good arms...he doesnt have either,, he has abdiminals due to him being 6% ,, he has good skin tone due to him having small amount of water between skin and muscle due to diuretic in some cases i noticed
but he is more comparable to the simply huge fella from this boarding,, both ssame level more or less
frank zane lol you fellas lost your brains
gh15 approved
I totally agree ! Comparing Zane ?!! lol
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thing with zyzz was he was only lifting for 2 years and he went to that physique from someone who looked like apply85 (9 inch arms, 140 pounds, etc...). kid could have done some damage if he didn't kill himself with all the drug abuse hahah
he did 3 grams of gear a week, but at least he died swole. rip, died like a true bodybuilder from heart disease at the age of 22
i trust your info asthetic where did you get the 3 grams from what was his supposed cycle?
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YESSS!!!!
GROINK SAID IT! Zane is soooooo fucking overrated... fuuuuck!
As for Zyzz he had a very aesthetic physique but comparing him to a Mr Olympia is not fair lol wtf ???
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Zane would eat him alive. Zyzz never had the legs. If bodybuilding was purely for homosexuals to pick their most fuckable then Zyzz would probably beat Zane but it (usually) is a fair contest.
In saying that, Zane's wins were very close, if not a toss up between a few guys.
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Congrats....most ridiculous thread in the history of getbig....
^^^this. But you have to understand that the majority of getbig are either in their early 20's or have rarely trained. 90% of the people who talk shit on Zane average 160lbs of skinnyfat.
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YESSS!!!!
GROINK SAID IT! Zane is soooooo fucking overrated... fuuuuck!
As for Zyzz he had a very aesthetic physique but comparing him to a Mr Olympia is not fair lol wtf ???
overrated by old farts
under rated by generation nothingness
it's obvious he had an excellent physique but not the best ever
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overrated by old farts
under rated by generation nothingness
it's obvious he had an excellent physique but not the best ever
Just cause he's from Generation Ancient doesn't make him special
These guys over Zane any day
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i thought nubret did that to make his waist look smaller
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/b/4/b4cd5-serge_young.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4SgJWSRiz8o/TbACj7uhGHI/AAAAAAAAGuc/iq2DLdF_D_c/s320/serge+nubret15.jpg)
^^ notice waist i smore sideways but upper torso is more facing the camera, not completely but mre
zane did same thing:
(http://acquireyok3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/frank-zane-abs.jpg)
the torso is very slightly twisted so that the waist looks smaller and shoulders look wider
Paris and benfatto did the same
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Just cause he's from Generation Ancient doesn't make him special
These guys over Zane any day
i like serge nubret, that chest is perfect
but all this old crap aside
none of them can even begin to match ronnie coleman or dexter jackson
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Also nubrets favored poses were with arms at his side
He lost size with arms overhead or out, and did not compare favorably on compulsories
Everybody has their thing
I disagree that zane is overrated, there have always been a lot of zane haters, except some like me that admired him from day 1, all of a sudden in this thread because gh15 approved him, many are in love with zane.
Voland is just baiting, and doing a great job as usual ;D
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lol Twink Zane had the smallest arms and forearms in history. Legs are two twigs too. so much for perfection...
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Take the slin, gh, seo, and new aas away from heath, and we'll see how he looks next to zane
Ironically, I think out of the current crop, the ones that would look best without the above mentioned items, would be kai and especially branch
Seriously
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This thread is just retarded. Who even thinks Zyzz could compare back, legs or calves with Zane..
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I'm not a fan of BBers with weak arms, and i know that sounds self-serving, maybe it is...I dunno. but it just throws everything off for me.
Gotta agree, always preferred builds where shoulders and arms were a tiny bit too big to rest of body. Like Levrone and Wheeler.
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i trust your info asthetic where did you get the 3 grams from what was his supposed cycle?
he never said what his cycles were, so don't take anything as canon. i'm just inferring things based on what he said because he talked about running 700mg test a week for his first cycle and he was doing the whole cycle on and off + pct thing. towards the end of his life he started getting a whole lot bigger and obviously upped the dosage, around the same time his friends were talking abotu running 150mg tren a day and prop, so i don't doubt he was running the same.
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Just cause he's from Generation Ancient doesn't make him special
These guys over Zane any day
Amazing photo
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all great pics,,on a artistic,image standpoint they all tilted somewhat ,,shows chest and tri's fullness and gives wasp look to waist.
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I haven't read but a bit of this thread but this will
put the OP's question into perspective.
Zane legitimately beat Robbie Robinson and Mike Mentzer
without hardly any debate; so there is something there
with Zane that's not captured on film (much like Yates.)
Watch Pumping Iron and think could Zyzz beat Robbie?
There's your answer.
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I haven't read but a bit of this thread but this will
put the OP's question into perspective.
Zane legitimately beat Robbie Robinson and Mike Mentzer
without hardly any debate; so there is something there
with Zane that's not captured on film (much like Yates.)
Watch Pumping Iron and think could Zyzz beat Robbie?
There's your answer.
& Arnold too ;D ;D ;D
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perfect physique for the cover of mens health
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I agree totally. People hate on Zyzz for no reason, other than jealousy. He was a young kid. So what if he was a little cocky and immature? He had a ton of charisma and in real life, he was liked by people. The fact that he is still talked about and missed by so many people, shows how much more of an impact he had than many of these ifbb clowns. Even when they win 5 shows, people still don't talk about them much. It's easy to be a big hairy mass monster with hormones but Zyzzs physique took more than that.
"Clap-Clap-Clap-,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," and Aziz was obviously dumb otherways way he went to Thailand & overdose himself, o by the way still no words from his brother Said ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yes, yes Aziz took more than that, in fact he took too many fake/infected Thai "Made in Bamboo Cabin " AS's created by barefooted/smoking Thai chemists.
Go to Siam & see it with your own eyes.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=457815;image)
nice everyday look, easy to maintain without a ton of gear
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well, the only thing i know for sure is that frank is still alive
who looked better?
it s a matter of age
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Zane's a legend, ZYZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is a nobody. Get over it.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458012;image)
this right there is the perfect look, no more no less
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zane by a mile
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458012;image)
this right there is the perfect look, no more no less
Great everyday look, easy to maintain without a shitload of drugs.
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Another retarded post with that zizz guy.....can everyonr plzz forget that imbecile???? plzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
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I'm not a big Zane fan...everybody raves about his classic lines and proportions....i just don't see it
He had weird abs, his waist wasn't all that small, you rarely see a pic of him not twisted at the waist..or head on.
Sorry...just being honest. I think he looks great in some shots...in others I'm underwhelmed..i don't see it.
Now realize i'm talking relatively , he's one of the all-time greats, no doubt...but just not as great as everyone else thinks...IMO
Wes is on suicide watch, thanks Groink
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(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/hotselfshots/17720214501/1/tumblr_lzhzkoFmdP1rp42ou)
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1st photo = perfection.
2nd photo = tatooed gym rat with a stylish haircut
1st photo = alive and well
2nd photo = dead and a bitch to Satan
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(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/hotselfshots/17720214501/1/tumblr_lzhzkoFmdP1rp42ou)
very good chest devlopment
Any more pics?
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(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/hotselfshots/17720214501/1/tumblr_lzhzkoFmdP1rp42ou)
well done sir
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Wtf am I reading? Zane rapes zyuz's ass in any pic. Plus he's ALIVE, he's >60 yo and he still looks good while Zyzz died at 22. Geez.
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Ok, maybe I'm an idiot, maybe since GetBig is the on BB board I participate on or pay attention to I don't know, or maybe both, but what the fuck is with all the attention this Zyzz guy gets? Actually I have a few questions:
1) What is Zyzz's real name?
2) Why does he garner so much attention? Has he been on the cover of several mags? Did he win some major BB comps? Is he on reality TV or something? What am I missing about this guy that other people (who don't personally know him) take time out of their life to be concerned with him?
3) Comparing him to Zane??? Really?? No. This Zyzz guy looks good like a modern fitness model maybe, but Zane?? No.
4) I read in the beginning pages of this thread that Zyzz killed himself via diuretics and getting into a sauna?? Is this true? Was he doing it in preparation for something that he felt he needed to go to this extreme for? This screams stupidity if you ask me and gives further explanation as to why few people should have respect for this guy.
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Frank is 70 years old now. Frank Zane has one of the best physiques of all time. It cracks me up how so many of you think it's easy to have a physique like him.
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Ok, maybe I'm an idiot, maybe since GetBig is the on BB board I participate on or pay attention to I don't know, or maybe both, but what the fuck is with all the attention this Zyzz guy gets? Actually I have a few questions:
1) What is Zyzz's real name?
2) Why does he garner so much attention? Has he been on the cover of several mags? Did he win some major BB comps? Is he on reality TV or something? What am I missing about this guy that other people (who don't personally know him) take time out of their life to be concerned with him?
3) Comparing him to Zane??? Really?? No. This Zyzz guy looks good like a modern fitness model maybe, but Zane?? No.
4) I read in the beginning pages of this thread that Zyzz killed himself via diuretics and getting into a sauna?? Is this true? Was he doing it in preparation for something that he felt he needed to go to this extreme for? This screams stupidity if you ask me and gives further explanation as to why few people should have respect for this guy.
1) something russian azyzz something
2) he was funny and had a good build
3) fitness model, yes. Olympia, no
4) died in a sauna, heart problem. ephedrin/clen could have contrubuted to it.
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Ok, maybe I'm an idiot, maybe since GetBig is the on BB board I participate on or pay attention to I don't know, or maybe both, but what the fuck is with all the attention this Zyzz guy gets? Actually I have a few questions:
1) What is Zyzz's real name?
2) Why does he garner so much attention? Has he been on the cover of several mags? Did he win some major BB comps? Is he on reality TV or something? What am I missing about this guy that other people (who don't personally know him) take time out of their life to be concerned with him?
3) Comparing him to Zane??? Really?? No. This Zyzz guy looks good like a modern fitness model maybe, but Zane?? No.
4) I read in the beginning pages of this thread that Zyzz killed himself via diuretics and getting into a sauna?? Is this true? Was he doing it in preparation for something that he felt he needed to go to this extreme for? This screams stupidity if you ask me and gives further explanation as to why few people should have respect for this guy.
1. who gives a shit?
2. He was a professional internet attention whore. You are not missing anything.
3. Spot on.
4. Well apparently he was pretty dumb.
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Zane's a legend, ZYZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is a nobody. Get over it.
AMEN!!!!
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Is that ABCD guy still dead?
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The king of douche bags is dead (other than in threads like this,and the delusional kids on bb.com who worship him)long live the king! ::)
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Frank is 70 years old now. Frank Zane has one of the best physiques of all time. It cracks me up how so many of you think it's easy to have a physique like him.
C`mon Rich,there are tons of guys walking around looking just like zane! ;D
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1. Frank Zane is overrated.
2. Zyzz is a hyped up nobody (RIP) and should not be mentioned ever again.
3. End of thread.
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ZZZ is worthless just like any other twink, didn't they test him for AAS at his autopsy and he tested positive for semen?
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C`mon Rich,there are tons of guys walking around looking just like zane! ;D
Some of these gym rats here who are juicing can't win a small contest but think they are in the same league as Frank Zane. Delusional.
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Some of these gym rats here who are juicing can't win a small contest but think they are in the same league as Frank Zane. Delusional.
;D
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Zyzz ::)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p3/Squall_019/1287002414677.jpg)(http://clay_b8690.tripod.com/ZaneFrank/FZane0010.jpg)
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Some of these gym rats here who are juicing can't win a small contest but think they are in the same league as Frank Zane. Delusional.
yup. if it was just a height, weight and bodyfat contest i'd be one of the best. i compete at 5'9, 235 and 4%. i should look awesome at those stats, yet i still look like crap.
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yup. if it was just a height, weight and bodyfat contest i'd be one of the best. i compete at 5'9, 235 and 4%. i should look awesome at those stats, yet i still look like crap.
I wouldn`t say you look like crap bro......one of the best builds on this board and in your contest days,one of the best in Canada.
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wtf at that pic? what was wrong with ZZZ was he mentally retarded?
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I wouldn`t say you look like crap bro......one of the best builds on this board and in your contest days,one of the best in Canada.
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And I'm still waiting to see scans showing how zane shouldve been beaten in 77-79 by bbers competing outside ifbb ;D
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1. Frank Zane is overrated.
2. Zyzz is a hyped up nobody (RIP) and should not be mentioned ever again.
3. End of thread.
Zane won 3 olympias
Why is he overrated?
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And I'm still waiting to see scans showing how zane shouldve been beaten in 77-79 by bbers competing outside ifbb ;D
oh ya, sorry, forgot. i scan things and they have too much to post on here.
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Zane won 3 olympias
Why is he overrated?
His physique never impressed me that much. Never saw the big deal what so ever. Plus he was small. :)
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oh ya, sorry, forgot. i scan things and they have too much to post on here.
Cool, if and when you can, like to see them!
8)
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His physique never impressed me that much. Never saw the big deal what so ever. Plus he was small. :)
I understand personal preference
There was no-one like zane ever, only reeves had perfect proportions, but not the conditioning. Nubret did not look as good in mandatories or variations, labrada and benfatto too short, sarcev and paris had weaknesses in their era that were unfairly against them.
Zane was very experienced, he'd been competing since late 50s I think, already a cover model in 60s, he gradually built a proportionate ripped to shreds, dry physique, that was unbeatable. Smaller, but what presence. Small? Never. In 1980 if not for the injury, and no fix, hed have won his 4th
No current pro can use the tools available to zane in the 70s and look remotely as good today.l
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I understand personal preference
There was no-one like zane ever, only reeves had perfect proportions, but not the conditioning. Nubret did not look as good in mandatories or variations, labrada and benfatto too short, sarcev and paris had weaknesses in their era that were unfairly against them.
Zane was very experienced, he'd been competing since late 50s I think, already a cover model in 60s, he gradually built a proportionate ripped to shreds, dry physique, that was unbeatable. Smaller, but what presence. Small? Never. In 1980 if not for the injury, and no fix, hed have won his 4th
No current pro can use the tools available to zane in the 70s and look remotely as good today.l
Disagree brother.
Zane is overrated.
He had real structural flaws so do 99% of guys, but he gets put on a pedestal.
It's not fair to compare the Z douche to Zane, Frank had a good decade of training on him.
Young pics of Zane:
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/frankzane/frankzane16.jpg)
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/frankzane/frankzane3.jpg)
Not particularly impressed a lot of flaws here.
(http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/frankzane/frankzane7.jpg)
if you are an ecto with decent shape you should surpass this type of build.
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Zane looked incredible. Conditioned, proportioned, lots of muscle(relatively speaking) and an excellent poser. In addition to all that, he also looked healthy and athletic! The same cannot be said for many of his contemporaries or ANY of today's pro's. That being said, I think Serge looked better as did Mentzer, while standing relaxed and facing the camera. Never saw them in the flesh though.
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Can't see your pics
No zane has not been surpassed.
Who has looked better at 5'9" 190-200lbs using what was available at the time
Who today could
Of course he had flaws, everyone has flaws. Rory had flaws, paris had flaws
Arnold had flaws, yates had flaws, etc
Nubret, arguably one of the best built men ever, looked fantastic standing semi-relaxed, but doing a arms overhead pose, was a big problem, his thickness disappeared
Zane hid every flaw, and highlighted his strenghts, every pose was tailored to his physique, much like his body was built same way
Zane was not a small guy that couldn't get bigger and decided to go for the ripped look to pick up chicks like johny at the local gymor xyZzzzz. Zane couldve weighed 220 and looked like shit, or gone for huge arms and legs, etc, instead, everything was balanced and flowed, that's what zane fans appreciate, the perfect tris, quad outer sweep on the lower quad, not huge inner thighs, perfect pec, delt and arm balance, conditioning, etc
Yes, younger he was a work in progress, he peaked late,
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my only Zane impression - 1990
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my only Zane impression - 1990
Looking great as always Haz..
By the way..for the newbies on here..not only is Hazbin a True bodybuilder in every sense of the word..but he's also a great guy. He goes out of his way for people ..is always honest and a straight shooter..plus when it comes to driving cars like Vettes..Vipers..you name it..plus living in beautiful homes..this guy does all of that. But he's too decent and modest to talk about it.
hazbin = awesome all around dude.
Hope I didn't embarrass you. Just giving you your props.
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Can't see your pics
No zane has not been surpassed.
Who has looked better at 5'9" 190-200lbs using what was available at the time
Who today could
Of course he had flaws, everyone has flaws. Rory had flaws, paris had flaws
Arnold had flaws, yates had flaws, etc
Nubret, arguably one of the best built men ever, looked fantastic standing semi-relaxed, but doing a arms overhead pose, was a big problem, his thickness disappeared
Zane hid every flaw, and highlighted his strenghts, every pose was tailored to his physique, much like his body was built same way
Zane was not a small guy that couldn't get bigger and decided to go for the ripped look to pick up chicks like johny at the local gymor xyZzzzz. Zane couldve weighed 220 and looked like shit, or gone for huge arms and legs, etc, instead, everything was balanced and flowed, that's what zane fans appreciate, the perfect tris, quad outer sweep on the lower quad, not huge inner thighs, perfect pec, delt and arm balance, conditioning, etc
Yes, younger he was a work in progress, he peaked late,
What i'm saying is that compared to most bodybuilders Zane looked good, wider world not so much.
Different world nowadays with training and drug awareness.
There are thousands of guys that surpass Zane they just aren't in bodybuilding, because modern bodybuilding doesn't reward that type of physique.
Try comparing a 20-25 year old Zane to others. Zane was not impressive as a younger guy.
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What i'm saying is that compared to most bodybuilders Zane looked good, wider world not so much.
Different world nowadays with training and drug awareness.
There are thousands of guys that surpass Zane they just aren't in bodybuilding, because modern bodybuilding doesn't reward that type of physique.
Try comparing a 20-25 year old Zane to others. Zane was not impressive as a younger guy.
Where are these thousands that surpassed Zane? where? ???
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Where are these thousands that surpassed Zane? where? ???
Fitness, Top Amateurs and the like.
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Fitness, Top Amateurs and the like.
Surpassed him in what? at what? there isn't one guy since Zane hit this shot that can replicate it
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What i'm saying is that compared to most bodybuilders Zane looked good, wider world not so much.
Different world nowadays with training and drug awareness.
There are thousands of guys that surpass Zane they just aren't in bodybuilding, because modern bodybuilding doesn't reward that type of physique.
Try comparing a 20-25 year old Zane to others. Zane was not impressive as a younger guy.
Like I said, different world. That is why using what zane had available in 70s, todays guys cannot match zane.
And nobody has, much less 1000s
Unless of course you can provide an example?
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Zane was not a small guy that couldn't get bigger and decided to go for the ripped look to pick up chicks like johny at the local gymor xyZzzzz. Zane couldve weighed 220 and looked like shit, or gone for huge arms and legs, etc, instead, everything was balanced and flowed, that's what zane fans appreciate, the perfect tris, quad outer sweep on the lower quad, not huge inner thighs, perfect pec, delt and arm balance, conditioning, etc
That's a pretty premature assumption to make don't you think? That he could have gotten bigger if he wanted to but instead decided to go for the ripped/proportioned look. How do you know he wasn't trying to get bigger? How does someone train who does not want to get bigger? Less intensity, lower nutrients, drugs, etc. than they would if they were trying harder? lol. I think anyone competing Especially at the Mr. Olympia level will try to get bigger if their genetics allow. Yes he didn't have access to the drugs that are available today, but I think he got as big as he possibly could with what was available to him at the time.
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Like I said, different world. That is why using what zane had available in 70s, todays guys cannot match zane.
And nobody has, much less 1000s
Unless of course you can provide an example?
I agree who else could look so massive at such a light weight? like Robby Robinson said about Zane , he looked like a normal guy in clothes and until he posed and then boom
What makes Zane so unique is where the muscles are his proportions are fantastic and everything compliments each other , he looked great from all angles as well
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Bigbobs
If you re-read my post, and the last sentence of yours, you'll find we're saying the same thing
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I'm not trawling the net looking for contest condition ams and fitness competitors.
A whole lot of guys surpass this...Structure and genetics is the focus, not contest ready Deuretic induced cuts.
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62317-1/24+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
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I'm not trawling the net looking for contest condition ams and fitness competitors.
A whole lot of guys surpass this...Structure and genetics is the focus, not contest ready Deuretic induced cuts.
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62317-1/24+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
That's a pic of zane in the early 60s, way before he hit hs peak
What you and bigbobs aren't understanding, is, zane was at 210 in the late 60s, early 70s, he actually lost size on his legs and waist and achieved a higher level of conditioning in order to achieve his look
Take all the exotic compounds away from heath, and let's see if he can achieve 190lbs at 4%, and if he did, how would he look?
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Like I said, different world. That is why using what zane had available in 70s, todays guys cannot match zane.
And nobody has, much less 1000s
Unless of course you can provide an example?
It's all subjective. Every pro goes through a Zane phase then they get bigger.
Most Fitness models surpass Zane.
In bodybuilding? Labrada Surpassed Zane, as did Clairmonte, Rory, Paris, Buchanan Cormier, et cetera.
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That's a pic of zane in the early 60s, way before he hit hs peak
What you and bigbobs aren't understanding, is, zane was at 210 in the late 60s, early 70s, he actually lost size on his legs and waist and achieved a higher level of conditioning in order to achieve his look
Take all the exotic compounds away from heath, and let's see if he can achieve 190lbs at 4%, and if he did, how would he look?
I think we misunderstood each other earlier. All i said was that I disagree that Zane could have gotten bigger (with the compounds he had at the time). Otherwise I do respect Zane's physique. I don't think he could get a pro card today (hypothetically, if you went back in time and brought his physique to today's stage and didn't let him use today's compounds), but I think he'd still be a competitive Nationals-level competitor.
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That's a pic of zane in the early 60s, way before he hit hs peak
What you and bigbobs aren't understanding, is, zane was at 210 in the late 60s, early 70s, he actually lost size on his legs and waist and achieved a higher level of conditioning in order to achieve his look
Take all the exotic compounds away from heath, and let's see if he can achieve 190lbs at 4%, and if he did, how would he look?
Heath would look like shit just like 90% of them would, that's not the point.
Bodybuilding has a nothing gene pool.
You are not going to get someone with that type of look in modern bodybuilding.
I'm a Zane fan btw, he just gets overrated. He wasn't a twink or a swimmer, he had a lot of conditioned muscle and trained with an ideal in mind, which i respect. I am not a fan of modern bodybuilding, Just calling it how i see it.
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You guys are out of your mind. "Zane surpassed by thousands of fitness models" LOL, post a pic and then you will see how bad Zane rape their asses. I'd agree some other BB could surpass him (just a few anyway) but fitness models? lol
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You guys are out of your mind. "Zane surpassed by thousands of fitness models" LOL, post a pic and then you will see how bad Zane rape their asses. I'd agree some other BB could surpass him (just a few anyway) but fitness models? lol
Aesthetics not overall completeness. That's what people always go on about with Zane.
Fuck me Coke head Zxzxxxazz was better at a comparative age.
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Aesthetics not overall completeness. That's what people always go on about with Zane.
Fuck me Coke head Zxzxxxazz was better at a comparative age.
Just because Zyzz may have looked better at a certain age before he died is no indication that (had he lived) he would have been able to continue improving leaps and bounds. I think he'd have a hard time transforming to the below pic. Possible but unlikely.
(http://onestopmuscle.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/zyzz-perfect-aesthetic1.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458481;image)
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Just because Zyzz may have looked better at a certain age before he died is no indication that (had he lived) he would have been able to continue improving leaps and bounds. I think he'd have a hard time transforming to the below pic. Possible but unlikely.
It's impossible to say, the same in regards to Zane bulking up more.
The original guy got laughed out of town but if you compare a young Zane to a lot of guys, it's hardly crazy.
Ten years of intelligent hormone usage and training is a lot of time.
Zane only started looking really good when he got some muscle maturity.
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Big Bobs > Pyzz
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Big Bobs > Pyzz
ain't that the truth.
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8)
Some of these pics Zane was actually 220-225 pounds believe it or not. In fact, he was over 200 pounds (not by much though) at the 1982 Mr. Olympia if I'm not mistaken. He had the capacity to get heavier, but it compromised his aesthetics according to him. Still, 190-200 pounds at 4% on a 5'9"ish guy is very impressive.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458479;image)
END OF THREAD!!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458479;image)
END OF THREAD!!
Right ! I love these guys who claim Zane has been surpassed I haven't seen anyone comparable since
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Right ! I love these guys who claim Zane has been surpassed I haven't seen anyone comparable since
Because someone at that weight/height ratio wouldn't make any impact, hence why all pro's bulkup past that point.
Thank your mancrush Dorian for playing a big rolein that.
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Zane competed with legends and beat a ton of guys who are considered legends of bodybuilding......plus he won three Mr. Olympia titles.
I`m out of this stupid ass thread....comparing a tattooed kid with a gay haircut to Frank fucking Zane........GEEZUS!! :(
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458489;image)
Two legends that if they got lucky might look just slighlty better than this ZZZZYYYYZZZ kid.
;D
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Zane competed with legends and beat a ton of guys who are considered legends of bodybuilding......plus he won three Mr. Olympia titles.
I`m out of this stupid ass thread....comparing a tattooed kid with a gay haircut to Frank fucking Zane........GEEZUS!! :(
Outed. You posted far too many times in this thread already ;D
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Well as of now I`m done with this fiasco.
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If I post one more time in this idiotic thread I swear I`ll delete your account! ;D
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If I post one more time in this idiotic thread I swear I`ll delete your account! ;D
Congrats..... You just got the key to STAB CITY!!!!!!!!!
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Because someone at that weight/height ratio wouldn't make any impact, hence why all pro's bulkup past that point.
Thank your mancrush Dorian for playing a big rolein that.
Fuck me you're dense ::) Frank competed with guys who routinely outweighed him and still managed to make an impact , it has nothing to do with weight
again moron find me a single photo of ANYONE today who can match this it should be easy seeing according to you he's been surpassed , I wont be waiting either because if you could have you would have
There is another human who has competed before or after Zane who can manage this not a one
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458489;image)
Two legends that if they got lucky might look just slighlty better than this ZZZZYYYYZZZ kid.
;D
Many fitness models have surpassed this ::)
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Many fitness models have surpassed this ::)
Bullshit. Show me a comparison pic. Zane would win everytime.
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Fuck me you're dense ::) Frank competed with guys who routinely outweighed him and still managed to make an impact , it has nothing to do with weight
again moron find me a single photo of ANYONE today who can match this it should be easy seeing according to you he's been surpassed , I wont be waiting either because if you could have you would have
There is another human who has competed before or after Zane who can manage this not a one
I'm the moron? Says the fat middle aged weirdo who has made 40000 posts talking about Dorian Yates.....
It has everything to do with weight. The reason why you don't see pro bodybuilders or top Amateurs focusing on aesthetics is becasue you won't place. What gets rewarded is mass and conditioning.
Zane was a great bodybuilder who was very well balanced. His structure and lines are overrated, end of story...
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Make love not war
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I'm the moron? Says the fat middle aged weirdo who has made 40000 posts talking about Dorian Yates.....
It has everything to do with weight. The reason why you don't see pro bodybuilders or top Amateurs focusing on aesthetics is becasue you won't place. What gets rewarded is mass and conditioning.
Zane was a great bodybuilder who was very well balanced. His structure and lines are overrated, end of story...
Post pics of a "fitness model" that beats him then.
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I'm the moron? Says the fat middle aged weirdo who has made 40000 posts talking about Dorian Yates.....
It has everything to do with weight. The reason why you don't see pro bodybuilders or top Amateurs focusing on aesthetics is becasue you won't place. What gets rewarded is mass and conditioning.
Zane was a great bodybuilder who was very well balanced. His structure and lines are overrated, end of story...
Awww you mad bro because you can't produce a single fucking picture of ANYONE who can match nevermind surpass that shot? you're looking very stupid right now and attacking me doesn't change that
Zane was a great bodybuilder who was very well balanced AND had a superior structure AND lines and he used his strengths to beat much heavier opponents in his day
Now again you're a moron because you make moronic statements like fitness models have surpassed Frank , find me one that comes close to this and I wont be waiting because you fucking can't moron. ;)
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Post pics of a "fitness model" that beats him then.
Exactly , he can't and he knows it , he committed to a very dumb statement he can't back up and now is looking to divert his stupidity by ad homein attacks
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I'm the moron? Says the fat middle aged weirdo who has made 40000 posts talking about Dorian Yates.....
It has everything to do with weight. The reason why you don't see pro bodybuilders or top Amateurs focusing on aesthetics is becasue you won't place. What gets rewarded is mass and conditioning.
Zane was a great bodybuilder who was very well balanced. His structure and lines are overrated, end of story...
1970`s and 1980`s vs. today ,yes mass rules, but everyone looks basically the same..............bloofy,and with a huge gut for the most part.
Bodybuilding used to be about building your body in a balanced manner,today it`s just up the dosage,train like an idiot,and do a veritable ton of drugs.
It`s not about what you weigh,it`s how you look.........at least that`s how it used to be, and how it should still be, but unfortunately never will be again.
I`m out of this stupid thread! ;D
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Looking great as always Haz..
By the way..for the newbies on here..not only is Hazbin a True bodybuilder in every sense of the word..but he's also a great guy. He goes out of his way for people ..is always honest and a straight shooter..plus when it comes to driving cars like Vettes..Vipers..you name it..plus living in beautiful homes..this guy does all of that. But he's too decent and modest to talk about it.
hazbin = awesome all around dude.
Hope I didn't embarrass you. Just giving you your props.
wow! thanx, you from Calgary?
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1970`s and 1980`s vs. today ,yes mass rules, but everyone looks basically the same..............bloofy,and with a huge gut for the most part.
Bodybuilding used to be about building your body in a balanced manner,today it`s just up the dosage,train like an idiot,and do a veritable ton of drugs.
It`s not about what you weigh,it`s how you look.........at least that`s how it used to be, and how it should still be, but unfortunately never will be again.
I`m out of this stupid thread! ;D
x1000
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Post pics of a "fitness model" that beats him then.
Beats him at what?
He is a pro bodybuilder who dedicated two decades of his life to balancing his physique out.
I said i don't think his aesthetics are that great. Not that he wasn't a great bodybuilder or didn't look good.
His pics as a young man are not impressive, i already posted a few.
Ok names for fatty schmoe even though i already did this....
Nubret, Labrada, Paris, Rory, Clairmonte, Benfatto.
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Beats him at what?
He is a pro bodybuilder who dedicated two decades of his life to balancing his physique out.
I said i don't think his aesthetics are that great. Not that he wasn't a great bodybuilder or didn't look good.
His pics as a young man are not impressive, i already posted a few.
Ok names for fatty schmoe even though i already did this....
Nubret, Labrada, Paris, Rory, Clairmonte, Benfatto.
No , no moron you claimed many fitness models have surpassed Zane , prove it or keeping looking like a moron
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Beats him at what?
He is a pro bodybuilder who dedicated two decades of his life to balancing his physique out.
I said i don't think his aesthetics are that great. Not that he wasn't a great bodybuilder or didn't look good.
His pics as a young man are not impressive, i already posted a few.
Ok names for fatty schmoe even though i already did this....
Nubret, Labrada, Paris, Rory, Clairmonte, Benfatto.
Tons of pros and top amateurs early pics look nothing like they eventually ended up looking in later years.
This sport takes a long time and lots of food,gear,training and once again,time put in consistantly.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415340.0;attach=458493;image)
END OF THREAD! ;D
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Beats him at what?
He is a pro bodybuilder who dedicated two decades of his life to balancing his physique out.
I said i don't think his aesthetics are that great. Not that he wasn't a great bodybuilder or didn't look good.
His pics as a young man are not impressive, i already posted a few.
Ok names for fatty schmoe even though i already did this....
Nubret, Labrada, Paris, Rory, Clairmonte, Benfatto.
The best fitness model out now is probably that Greg Plitt Guy. He doesn't come close to Zane.
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No , no moron you claimed many fitness models have surpassed Zane , prove it or keeping looking like a moron
Thats subjective. I would take someone with a comparative build to my own over Zane, i don't like his lines. Simple as.
If you do then great. The same way you think Dorian is the greatest bodybuilder ever and a shitload of people disagree.
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Thats subjective. I would take someone with a comparative build to my own over Zane, i don't like his lines. Simple as.
If you do then great. The same way you think Dorian is the greatest bodybuilder ever and a shitload of people disagree.
Dorian vs. Ronnie is subjective. Zane vs. any fitness model ever, is not.
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No , no moron you claimed many fitness models have surpassed Zane , prove it or keeping looking like a moron
I said pro's, ams and some fitness models. Sctructurally, not in terms of completeness.
Fuck you dickheads were comparing a 40 year old Zane to a 21 year old kid, fair?
20 odd years advantage in training anabolics and muscle maturity.
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(http://i51.tinypic.com/296k5kp.jpg)
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Thats subjective. I would take someone with a comparative build to my own over Zane, i don't like his lines. Simple as.
If you do then great. The same way you think Dorian is the greatest bodybuilder ever and a shitload of people disagree.
So subjective you can't find a single one ::) I don't care if you don't like his lines you're an idiot who committed to a really dumb statement and is now looking for a way out of it
I NEVER EVER once claimed Dorian is the greatest bodybuilder ever , wrong again moron , I said at his best he would beat Ronnie and this has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Dorian , stop bringing him into it
What made Frank so special was his structure , lines and aesthetics as well as his proportions and all were second to none which is exactly why we have never seen anyone who can match his physique
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(http://i51.tinypic.com/296k5kp.jpg)
Sorry Che, not as ripped as Zane homey. Looks good though.
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(http://i51.tinypic.com/296k5kp.jpg)
Good shot but not close to Zane
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So subjective you can't find a single one ::) I don't care if you don't like his lines you're an idiot who committed to a really dumb statement and is now looking for a way out of it
I NEVER EVER once claimed Dorian is the greatest bodybuilder ever , wrong again moron , I said at his best he would beat Ronnie and this has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Dorian , stop bringing him into it
What made Frank so special was his structure , lines and aesthetics as well as his proportions and all were second to none which is exactly why we have never seen anyone who can match his physique
I can't take your opinion on anything seriously. Fat schmoe who dedicated 40000 posts to Dorian Yates. Why would your opinion have any validity?
Tons of guys surpassed Zane. Great bodybuilder regardless, who represented bodybuilding ideals unlike someone we know.
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Mentzer had an awesome vacuum as well
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too bad he looks liek a girl with his arms behind his head
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I can't take your opinion on anything seriously. Fat schmoe who dedicated 40000 posts to Dorian Yates. Why would your opinion have any validity?
Tons of guys surpassed Zane. Great bodybuilder regardless, who represented bodybuilding ideals unlike someone we know.
Are other bodybuilders arguably better than Zane? Sure. But you said "fitness models". What now?
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I said pro's, ams and some fitness models. Sctructurally, not in terms of completeness.
Fuck you dickheads were comparing a 40 year old Zane to a 21 year old kid, fair?
20 odd years advantage in training anabolics and muscle maturity.
You don't even know what constitutes a great structure , especially if you think most fitness models surpass his.
If anything guys now have a huge advantage over Zane in terms of being ahead of the game , back in Zane's day it was all trial & error , and advances in supplementation and equipment remove lot of the guess work that the old timers were doing
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More impressive vacuums!!
(http://www.musclenet.com/frankzane.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson319e.jpg)
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/b/5/b5d7b-pic.jpg)
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2010/10-643-02/Frank-Zane-5_380.jpg)
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/0/808bc-rustyjeffers_2007_im.jpg)
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Better lines than Zane
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i posted about that guy a while ago, hes the best current bber imo
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I can't take your opinion on anything seriously. Fat schmoe who dedicated 40000 posts to Dorian Yates. Why would your opinion have any validity?
Tons of guys surpassed Zane. Great bodybuilder regardless, who represented bodybuilding ideals unlike someone we know.
I can't take your opinion on anything seriously. Fat schmoe who dedicated 40000 posts to Dorian Yates. Why would your opinion have any validity?
Most Fitness models surpass Zane. your statement lol yet your opinion has ' validity ' LMFAO
Attacking me isn't going to save you dummy. ;) and most of my posts are correcting really stupid people like yourself. And I'm not the only one correcting you on your dumb statements
Do you feel stupid? because you sure look it.
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Are other bodybuilders arguably better than Zane? Sure. But you said "fitness models". What now?
Structure yes. Not loads but i have seen a fair few. Lean mass and conditioning? No. Be serious bodybuilding has zero talent pool, people that are gifted physically don't get in to bodybuilding.
Point is that the original comparison was unfair.
20 years more training and anabolics.
lol i'm a Zane fan i just think he gets overrated sometimes. I would take his build over Ronnie, Dorian, Jay every day of the week. I was just countering people laughing at the original comparison.
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Better lines than Zane
First, it's not the same pose. Second, Zane looks 50 in that pic. Zane looks drier as well. Keep trying Che. Remember the generation gap as well my friend.
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(http://www.liftforlife.com/Zane%20group.JPG)
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/zane4.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62315-1/23+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/fzbeach.jpg)
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Better lines than Zane
hehehehehehe better lines ;D
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hehehehehehe better lines ;D
What's so funny
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Most Fitness models surpass Zane. your statement lol yet your opinion has ' validity ' LMFAO
Attacking me isn't going to save you dummy. ;) and most of my posts are correcting really stupid people like yourself. And I'm not the only one correcting you on your dumb statements
Do you feel stupid? because you sure look it.
No. I explained my position pretty well. I know what i said hits a nerve with you hence why i say it.
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(http://www.liftforlife.com/Zane%20group.JPG)
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/zane4.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62315-1/23+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/fzbeach.jpg)
Here's one of Samir doing Frank's pose. Samir is a massive fan of Frank always raving on about him
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Structure yes. Not loads but i have seen a fair few. Lean mass and conditioning? No. Be serious bodybuilding has zero talent pool, people that are gifted physically don't get in to bodybuilding.
Point is that the original comparison was unfair.
20 years more training and anabolics.
lol i'm a Zane fan i just think he gets overrated sometimes. I would take his build over Ronnie, Dorian, Jay every day of the week. I was just countering people laughing at the original comparison.
I can agree with this post. I am a fair guy.
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(http://www.liftforlife.com/Zane%20group.JPG)
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/zane4.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62315-1/23+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
(http://www.legendaryfitness.com/fzbeach.jpg)
Lacks chest thickness, protruding obliques, short legs, average bi shape.
Still looks good though.
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No. I explained my position pretty well. I know what i said hits a nerve with you hence why i say it.
You explained your position and when pushed on proving it you can't. You committed to a monumentally moronic statement and looked for any way out of it.
Most Fitness models surpass Zane. :D
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Lacks chest thickness, protruding obliques, short legs, average bi shape.
Still looks good though.
LMFAO compared to who? boy you keep digging yourself deeper
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You explained your position and when pushed on proving it you can't. You committed to a monumentally moronic statement and looked for any way out of it.
Most Fitness models surpass Zane. :D
I think i said a lot of past and present am's pro's and some fitness models surpass Zane on structure/lines.
Which i stick to.
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As people have said earlier, Zane represents what bodybuilding should be about. That's why Sean Ray is my fav. Bodybuilder. I think Sean Ray beats Zane, but its not a fair comparison based on the available drugs at the time.
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I think i said a lot of past and present am's pro's and some fitness models surpass Zane on structure/lines.
Which i stick to.
No , now you're reduced to amending it from Most Fitness models surpass Zane. to ' some fitness models '
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Lacks chest thickness, protruding obliques, short legs, average bi shape.
Still looks good though.
I disagree I think his proportions were perfect but I agree with overdeveloped obliques ,weird abs, zero quad sweep ,pec gap....
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
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I disagree I think his proportions were perfect but I agree with overdeveloped obliques ,weird abs, zero quad sweep ,pec gap....
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
3x olympia. Che outed. :-*
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I disagree I think his proportions were perfect but I agree with overdeveloped obliques ,weird abs, zero quad sweep ,pec gap....
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
He has a near perfect structure , balance & proportions. his lines were out standing and it's exactly why no one has been able to match him
5'9" 190lbs who looks like him? NO ONE who can look so massive while being so light? NO ONE
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He has a near perfect structure , balance & proportions. his lines were out standing and it's exactly why no one has been able to match him
5'9" 190lbs who looks like him? NO ONE who can look so massive while being so light? NO ONE
Whatever dude you are blind .
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Nice shot of Samir!
I`m out of this stupid thread!
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Whatever dude you are blind .
Seriously name another guy at 5'9" 190lbs that can match or surpass him in terms of physique , everyone likes to pretend everyone does but no one can prove it ???
At 5'9" 190lbs no one has his structure , proportions , aesthetics and lines , no one can look as massive at such a little weight like him
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Seriously name another guy at 5'9" 190lbs that can match or surpass him in terms of physique , everyone likes to pretend everyone does but no one can prove it ???
At 5'9" 190lbs no one has his structure , proportions , aesthetics and lines , no one can look as massive at such a little weight like him
Hey Deity, Prime Coleman blows Yates out of the water! Just my opinion :P
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I agree who else could look so massive at such a light weight? like Robby Robinson said about Zane , he looked like a normal guy in clothes and until he posed and then boom
What makes Zane so unique is where the muscles are his proportions are fantastic and everything compliments each other , he looked great from all angles as well
awesome shots ND, thx for posting
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awesome shots ND, thx for posting
Hi Frank!
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Seriously name another guy at 5'9" 190lbs that can match or surpass him in terms of physique , everyone likes to pretend everyone does but no one can prove it ???
At 5'9" 190lbs no one has his structure , proportions , aesthetics and lines , no one can look as massive at such a little weight like him
First of all I think he looked great and he deserved to win the Olympia , I was just pointing out his structural flaws something than you can't see , BTW Frank Zane won the Olympia because his condition and proportions not because he was or looked massive.
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Seriously name another guy at 5'9" 190lbs that can match or surpass him in terms of physique , everyone likes to pretend everyone does but no one can prove it ???
At 5'9" 190lbs no one has his structure , proportions , aesthetics and lines , no one can look as massive at such a little weight like him
5'9 190 is not little...
Prove what? You can't dissprove someones opinion.
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First of all I think he looked great and he deserved to win the Olympia , I was just pointing out his structural flaws something than you can't see , BTW Frank Zane won the Olympia because his condition and proportions not because he was or looked massive.
Which still should be the criteria today. It should not matter about weight. It's how the weight is distributed.
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Which still should be the criteria today. It should not matter about weight. It's how the weight is distributed.
Modern bodybuilding is a joke.
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Which still should be the criteria today. It should not matter about weight. It's how the weight is distributed.
It's the illusion.
Nubret and Arnold still look like they had the biggest chests. Oliva and his arm size due to his waist et cetera.
Zane understood bodybuilding as well as anybody.
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Modern bodybuilding is a joke.
Agreed.
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It's the illusion.
Nubret and Arnold still look like they had the biggest chests. Oliva and his arm size due to his waist et cetera.
Zane understood bodybuilding as well as anybody.
Conditioning wins over mass anyday when the shirts come off! LOL
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level of conditioning today coupled with expanded ,wider waistes,is crazy ,causing bbers today to be 20.30,50 lbs depending on given height bigger than 70/80's by a mile but conditioning drier at times than older guard but at same time bloofy,full look that can be aquired without busting your ass in the gym like past bber's...
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perspective:
given the widespread availability of gh and insulin today, how is it you NEVER see in gyms across the country guys who looked as good as zane? im pretty well travelled and have yet to see anyone in the gym who looks as impressive as zane does.
you'd think they'd be everywhere if he 'wasnt so special'. fuck ive been doing this for almost 20 years, and have been using gh for the past 2-3 and i couldnt carry zanes gym bag,.
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perspective:
given the widespread availability of gh and insulin today, how is it you NEVER see in gyms across the country guys who looked as good as zane? im pretty well travelled and have yet to see anyone in the gym who looks as impressive as zane does.
you'd think they'd be everywhere if he 'wasnt so special'. fuck ive been doing this for almost 20 years, and have been using gh for the past 2-3 and i couldnt carry zanes gym bag,.
cool post,,,
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perspective:
given the widespread availability of gh and insulin today, how is it you NEVER see in gyms across the country guys who looked as good as zane? im pretty well travelled and have yet to see anyone in the gym who looks as impressive as zane does.
you'd think they'd be everywhere if he 'wasnt so special'. fuck ive been doing this for almost 20 years, and have been using gh for the past 2-3 and i couldnt carry zanes gym bag,.
Maybe even GH fucks with clean lean muscle quality a bit? Everyone slams slin, but i'm not sure about GH in that regard.
Zane improved a lot as he matured, his muscle quality got a lot better.
Regardless, of course he was elite.
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Obviously the above video contains shots of him throught his life, both on the sauce and off of it. In many of the pics, you can see that he ad a look that many people here would love to have. Zyzz obviously had a goal in mind of what he wanted to ultimately look like, and I would venture to say he achieved that. I haven't seen too many people post pics which proved them superior bodybuilders to zyzz. I doubt Zyzz wanted to be Evin Centifini or Fankhouzer with his missing teeth. He wanted a certain look and he created it. I give him props for that. Additionally, his life mission wasn't to play the natty card day and night and mislead people into thinking they could look like him naturally. ZYzz actually inspired people through his posts and videos to start working out and to better themselves. He is a good fella in my book.
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)Interesting to read all these comments. A few comments from me, the original poster.
-To some of the people who have posted who seem to find happiness in a young guy's death, I suggest you have a serious think about why you would make such comments. Zyzz seemed like a fine, likeable guy, who had fun and more importantly did no-one any harm. Show a little respect for the guy please.
-It's kind of ironic that of all the guys here who dismiss Zyzz as a joke, Zyzz most probably had a better physique than 99% of nasty posters, and I suspect there is some hidden jealousy there.
-The comments about Zane being at level of many of today’s male fitness models etc is spot on. In any big gym, where a guy can have access to dbol and test, perhaps a little clen, you will see guys who if they have a lean athletic structure to start with, and they can start looking like Zane if they eat well, and train right.
-Zane was a master at posing. He knew how to show his positive features, and how to disguise his weaknesses. Arnold had the same skill. Jay too. And yes, Zyzz too.
-What Zane had, is a few very good photos taken of him, taken with great lighting and focus, which have become his legacy. Part of this is that in that era, you did not get photographed/videoed 24/7. If he was around today, you would see lots of photos that showed him with skinny forearms, stick legs, etc (which I guess is still better than the “off-form” pics we see now of pros with pregnant stomachs).
-Zyzz understood the power of the camera. And the power of social media. He really made an effort to capture flattering photos (which sadly became his legacy). But the Zyzz photos were taken ever since he first started, so of course you are going to see some of him looking skinny. If he had not died, I believe he would have evolved into a physique that could have produced photos superior to the best pics of Zane. What was not captured was Zyzz in his last 3 or so months starting to bulk up. He had decided go from 90kg to over 100kg, which with his leanness apparently looked pretty damn impressive. Some who saw him just days before he died said he looked “Huge”.
-Now think about this. If Zyzz is a nobody, why does everyone here, or in bodybuilding know of him? The reason is that he was at the driving force in redefining the look that young guys want and aspire to these days. Between Zane to Haney we had guys who were in proportion with a move to getting bigger. Then we got into the era of monster freaks – Ronnie, Dorian, Mattarazo, Nasser, Ruhl, and then beyond that into actual mutations such as Branch and Kai and people who developed Polumboism. The reality is, not many people, really, want to look like that, not able to climb stairs, not able to fit into normal clothes, and looking fat and rediculus when wearing a suit - Chick being a good example of that. Most chicks are disgusted by a guy like that. Show any hot chick a piz of Zyzz compared to a monster, and who do you think she will get wet over and want to fuck? Part of the apparent anger against Zyzz, is I think that he has been provocative in making the old school of bodybuilders realize how pointless, and ridiculous their goals are. Guys that are working their ass off to get big, shoveling food down, taking GH, slin, etc, for what? So that other guys might be intimidated about how tough they look, and yet they are not pulling any pussy? Zyzz realized what girls like, and he enhanced those features. Girls like a guy who is athletic, who can still move like an athlete (and not like a gorilla or ape due to his giant lats and quads). He also realized the pussy pulling power of abs and a narrow waist that make a visual line down to the cock. That is actually also why Zane’s body was admired, and why even now, 30-40 years later, people here still point to him as the ideal physique. Attraction is mainly a genetic programming for women, influenced to some extent by external factors, such as TV etc. Zyzz realized that the hardcore bodybuilding “ideal” had become out of sync with what chicks liked, and he set about totally redefining it. And was in the process of succeeding big time. Think about commercial marketability. How much more marketable a guy like Zyzz was vs say a blubber monster like Trey.
-One final thing. Zyzz had charisma by the bucket load. You might think Arnold got his fame through his body, but it was actually his mind, combined with his body that got him there. His confidence, his cockyness, his social awareness. If you put Arnold’s brain into Louie F, I guarantee it would have been Louie that had all the fame and success that Arnold had.
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)Interesting to read all these comments. A few comments from me, the original poster.
-To some of the people who have posted who seem to find happiness in a young guy's death, I suggest you have a serious think about why you would make such comments. Zyzz seemed like a fine, likeable guy, who had fun and more importantly did no-one any harm. Show a little respect for the guy please.
-It's kind of ironic that of all the guys here who dismiss Zyzz as a joke, Zyzz most probably had a better physique than 99% of nasty posters, and I suspect there is some hidden jealousy there.
-The comments about Zane being at level of many of today’s male fitness models etc is spot on. In any big gym, where a guy can have access to dbol and test, perhaps a little clen, you will see guys who if they have a lean athletic structure to start with, and they can start looking like Zane if they eat well, and train right.
-Zane was a master at posing. He knew how to show his positive features, and how to disguise his weaknesses. Arnold had the same skill. Jay too. And yes, Zyzz too.
-What Zane had, is a few very good photos taken of him, taken with great lighting and focus, which have become his legacy. Part of this is that in that era, you did not get photographed/videoed 24/7. If he was around today, you would see lots of photos that showed him with skinny forearms, stick legs, etc (which I guess is still better than the “off-form” pics we see now of pros with pregnant stomachs).
-Zyzz understood the power of the camera. And the power of social media. He really made an effort to capture flattering photos (which sadly became his legacy). But the Zyzz photos were taken ever since he first started, so of course you are going to see some of him looking skinny. If he had not died, I believe he would have evolved into a physique that could have produced photos superior to the best pics of Zane. What was not captured was Zyzz in his last 3 or so months starting to bulk up. He had decided go from 90kg to over 100kg, which with his leanness apparently looked pretty damn impressive. Some who saw him just days before he died said he looked “Huge”.
-Now think about this. If Zyzz is a nobody, why does everyone here, or in bodybuilding know of him? The reason is that he was at the driving force in redefining the look that young guys want and aspire to these days. Between Zane to Haney we had guys who were in proportion with a move to getting bigger. Then we got into the era of monster freaks – Ronnie, Dorian, Mattarazo, Nasser, Ruhl, and then beyond that into actual mutations such as Branch and Kai and people who developed Polumboism. The reality is, not many people, really, want to look like that, not able to climb stairs, not able to fit into normal clothes, and looking fat and rediculus when wearing a suit - Chick being a good example of that. Most chicks are disgusted by a guy like that. Show any hot chick a piz of Zyzz compared to a monster, and who do you think she will get wet over and want to fuck? Part of the apparent anger against Zyzz, is I think that he has been provocative in making the old school of bodybuilders realize how pointless, and ridiculous their goals are. Guys that are working their ass off to get big, shoveling food down, taking GH, slin, etc, for what? So that other guys might be intimidated about how tough they look, and yet they are not pulling any pussy? Zyzz realized what girls like, and he enhanced those features. Girls like a guy who is athletic, who can still move like an athlete (and not like a gorilla or ape due to his giant lats and quads). He also realized the pussy pulling power of abs and a narrow waist that make a visual line down to the cock. That is actually also why Zane’s body was admired, and why even now, 30-40 years later, people here still point to him as the ideal physique. Attraction is mainly a genetic programming for women, influenced to some extent by external factors, such as TV etc. Zyzz realized that the hardcore bodybuilding “ideal” had become out of sync with what chicks liked, and he set about totally redefining it. And was in the process of succeeding big time. Think about commercial marketability. How much more marketable a guy like Zyzz was vs say a blubber monster like Trey.
-One final thing. Zyzz had charisma by the bucket load. You might think Arnold got his fame through his body, but it was actually his mind, combined with his body that got him there. His confidence, his cockyness, his social awareness. If you put Arnold’s brain into Louie F, I guarantee it would have been Louie that had all the fame and success that Arnold had.
Another retarded lunatic schmoe who begs for zyzz cock in his ass...... ::)
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&feature=related
Obviously the above video contains shots of him throught his life, both on the sauce and off of it. In many of the pics, you can see that he ad a look that many people here would love to have. Zyzz obviously had a goal in mind of what he wanted to ultimately look like, and I would venture to say he achieved that. I haven't seen too many people post pics which proved them superior bodybuilders to zyzz. I doubt Zyzz wanted to be Evin Centifini or Fankhouzer with his missing teeth. He wanted a certain look and he created it. I give him props for that. Additionally, his life mission wasn't to play the natty card day and night and mislead people into thinking they could look like him naturally. ZYzz actually inspired people through his posts and videos to start working out and to better themselves. He is a good fella in my book.
)Interesting to read all these comments. A few comments from me, the original poster.
-To some of the people who have posted who seem to find happiness in a young guy's death, I suggest you have a serious think about why you would make such comments. Zyzz seemed like a fine, likeable guy, who had fun and more importantly did no-one any harm. Show a little respect for the guy please.
-It's kind of ironic that of all the guys here who dismiss Zyzz as a joke, Zyzz most probably had a better physique than 99% of nasty posters, and I suspect there is some hidden jealousy there.
-The comments about Zane being at level of many of today’s male fitness models etc is spot on. In any big gym, where a guy can have access to dbol and test, perhaps a little clen, you will see guys who if they have a lean athletic structure to start with, and they can start looking like Zane if they eat well, and train right.
-Zane was a master at posing. He knew how to show his positive features, and how to disguise his weaknesses. Arnold had the same skill. Jay too. And yes, Zyzz too.
-What Zane had, is a few very good photos taken of him, taken with great lighting and focus, which have become his legacy. Part of this is that in that era, you did not get photographed/videoed 24/7. If he was around today, you would see lots of photos that showed him with skinny forearms, stick legs, etc (which I guess is still better than the “off-form” pics we see now of pros with pregnant stomachs).
-Zyzz understood the power of the camera. And the power of social media. He really made an effort to capture flattering photos (which sadly became his legacy). But the Zyzz photos were taken ever since he first started, so of course you are going to see some of him looking skinny. If he had not died, I believe he would have evolved into a physique that could have produced photos superior to the best pics of Zane. What was not captured was Zyzz in his last 3 or so months starting to bulk up. He had decided go from 90kg to over 100kg, which with his leanness apparently looked pretty damn impressive. Some who saw him just days before he died said he looked “Huge”.
-Now think about this. If Zyzz is a nobody, why does everyone here, or in bodybuilding know of him? The reason is that he was at the driving force in redefining the look that young guys want and aspire to these days. Between Zane to Haney we had guys who were in proportion with a move to getting bigger. Then we got into the era of monster freaks – Ronnie, Dorian, Mattarazo, Nasser, Ruhl, and then beyond that into actual mutations such as Branch and Kai and people who developed Polumboism. The reality is, not many people, really, want to look like that, not able to climb stairs, not able to fit into normal clothes, and looking fat and rediculus when wearing a suit - Chick being a good example of that. Most chicks are disgusted by a guy like that. Show any hot chick a piz of Zyzz compared to a monster, and who do you think she will get wet over and want to fuck? Part of the apparent anger against Zyzz, is I think that he has been provocative in making the old school of bodybuilders realize how pointless, and ridiculous their goals are. Guys that are working their ass off to get big, shoveling food down, taking GH, slin, etc, for what? So that other guys might be intimidated about how tough they look, and yet they are not pulling any pussy? Zyzz realized what girls like, and he enhanced those features. Girls like a guy who is athletic, who can still move like an athlete (and not like a gorilla or ape due to his giant lats and quads). He also realized the pussy pulling power of abs and a narrow waist that make a visual line down to the cock. That is actually also why Zane’s body was admired, and why even now, 30-40 years later, people here still point to him as the ideal physique. Attraction is mainly a genetic programming for women, influenced to some extent by external factors, such as TV etc. Zyzz realized that the hardcore bodybuilding “ideal” had become out of sync with what chicks liked, and he set about totally redefining it. And was in the process of succeeding big time. Think about commercial marketability. How much more marketable a guy like Zyzz was vs say a blubber monster like Trey.
-One final thing. Zyzz had charisma by the bucket load. You might think Arnold got his fame through his body, but it was actually his mind, combined with his body that got him there. His confidence, his cockyness, his social awareness. If you put Arnold’s brain into Louie F, I guarantee it would have been Louie that had all the fame and success that Arnold had.
Sorry,I don`t read fairy tales!
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)Interesting to read all these comments. A few comments from me, the original poster.
-To some of the people who have posted who seem to find happiness in a young guy's death, I suggest you have a serious think about why you would make such comments. Zyzz seemed like a fine, likeable guy, who had fun and more importantly did no-one any harm. Show a little respect for the guy please.
-It's kind of ironic that of all the guys here who dismiss Zyzz as a joke, Zyzz most probably had a better physique than 99% of nasty posters, and I suspect there is some hidden jealousy there.
-The comments about Zane being at level of many of today’s male fitness models etc is spot on. In any big gym, where a guy can have access to dbol and test, perhaps a little clen, you will see guys who if they have a lean athletic structure to start with, and they can start looking like Zane if they eat well, and train right.
-Zane was a master at posing. He knew how to show his positive features, and how to disguise his weaknesses. Arnold had the same skill. Jay too. And yes, Zyzz too.
-What Zane had, is a few very good photos taken of him, taken with great lighting and focus, which have become his legacy. Part of this is that in that era, you did not get photographed/videoed 24/7. If he was around today, you would see lots of photos that showed him with skinny forearms, stick legs, etc (which I guess is still better than the “off-form” pics we see now of pros with pregnant stomachs).
-Zyzz understood the power of the camera. And the power of social media. He really made an effort to capture flattering photos (which sadly became his legacy). But the Zyzz photos were taken ever since he first started, so of course you are going to see some of him looking skinny. If he had not died, I believe he would have evolved into a physique that could have produced photos superior to the best pics of Zane. What was not captured was Zyzz in his last 3 or so months starting to bulk up. He had decided go from 90kg to over 100kg, which with his leanness apparently looked pretty damn impressive. Some who saw him just days before he died said he looked “Huge”.
-Now think about this. If Zyzz is a nobody, why does everyone here, or in bodybuilding know of him? The reason is that he was at the driving force in redefining the look that young guys want and aspire to these days. Between Zane to Haney we had guys who were in proportion with a move to getting bigger. Then we got into the era of monster freaks – Ronnie, Dorian, Mattarazo, Nasser, Ruhl, and then beyond that into actual mutations such as Branch and Kai and people who developed Polumboism. The reality is, not many people, really, want to look like that, not able to climb stairs, not able to fit into normal clothes, and looking fat and rediculus when wearing a suit - Chick being a good example of that. Most chicks are disgusted by a guy like that. Show any hot chick a piz of Zyzz compared to a monster, and who do you think she will get wet over and want to fuck? Part of the apparent anger against Zyzz, is I think that he has been provocative in making the old school of bodybuilders realize how pointless, and ridiculous their goals are. Guys that are working their ass off to get big, shoveling food down, taking GH, slin, etc, for what? So that other guys might be intimidated about how tough they look, and yet they are not pulling any pussy? Zyzz realized what girls like, and he enhanced those features. Girls like a guy who is athletic, who can still move like an athlete (and not like a gorilla or ape due to his giant lats and quads). He also realized the pussy pulling power of abs and a narrow waist that make a visual line down to the cock. That is actually also why Zane’s body was admired, and why even now, 30-40 years later, people here still point to him as the ideal physique. Attraction is mainly a genetic programming for women, influenced to some extent by external factors, such as TV etc. Zyzz realized that the hardcore bodybuilding “ideal” had become out of sync with what chicks liked, and he set about totally redefining it. And was in the process of succeeding big time. Think about commercial marketability. How much more marketable a guy like Zyzz was vs say a blubber monster like Trey.
-One final thing. Zyzz had charisma by the bucket load. You might think Arnold got his fame through his body, but it was actually his mind, combined with his body that got him there. His confidence, his cockyness, his social awareness. If you put Arnold’s brain into Louie F, I guarantee it would have been Louie that had all the fame and success that Arnold had.
Hi chestbrah! how are you today?
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)Interesting to read all these comments. A few comments from me, the original poster.
-To some of the people who have posted who seem to find happiness in a young guy's death, I suggest you have a serious think about why you would make such comments. Zyzz seemed like a fine, likeable guy, who had fun and more importantly did no-one any harm. Show a little respect for the guy please.
-It's kind of ironic that of all the guys here who dismiss Zyzz as a joke, Zyzz most probably had a better physique than 99% of nasty posters, and I suspect there is some hidden jealousy there.
-The comments about Zane being at level of many of today’s male fitness models etc is spot on. In any big gym, where a guy can have access to dbol and test, perhaps a little clen, you will see guys who if they have a lean athletic structure to start with, and they can start looking like Zane if they eat well, and train right.
-Zane was a master at posing. He knew how to show his positive features, and how to disguise his weaknesses. Arnold had the same skill. Jay too. And yes, Zyzz too.
-What Zane had, is a few very good photos taken of him, taken with great lighting and focus, which have become his legacy. Part of this is that in that era, you did not get photographed/videoed 24/7. If he was around today, you would see lots of photos that showed him with skinny forearms, stick legs, etc (which I guess is still better than the “off-form” pics we see now of pros with pregnant stomachs).
-Zyzz understood the power of the camera. And the power of social media. He really made an effort to capture flattering photos (which sadly became his legacy). But the Zyzz photos were taken ever since he first started, so of course you are going to see some of him looking skinny. If he had not died, I believe he would have evolved into a physique that could have produced photos superior to the best pics of Zane. What was not captured was Zyzz in his last 3 or so months starting to bulk up. He had decided go from 90kg to over 100kg, which with his leanness apparently looked pretty damn impressive. Some who saw him just days before he died said he looked “Huge”.
-Now think about this. If Zyzz is a nobody, why does everyone here, or in bodybuilding know of him? The reason is that he was at the driving force in redefining the look that young guys want and aspire to these days. Between Zane to Haney we had guys who were in proportion with a move to getting bigger. Then we got into the era of monster freaks – Ronnie, Dorian, Mattarazo, Nasser, Ruhl, and then beyond that into actual mutations such as Branch and Kai and people who developed Polumboism. The reality is, not many people, really, want to look like that, not able to climb stairs, not able to fit into normal clothes, and looking fat and rediculus when wearing a suit - Chick being a good example of that. Most chicks are disgusted by a guy like that. Show any hot chick a piz of Zyzz compared to a monster, and who do you think she will get wet over and want to fuck? Part of the apparent anger against Zyzz, is I think that he has been provocative in making the old school of bodybuilders realize how pointless, and ridiculous their goals are. Guys that are working their ass off to get big, shoveling food down, taking GH, slin, etc, for what? So that other guys might be intimidated about how tough they look, and yet they are not pulling any pussy? Zyzz realized what girls like, and he enhanced those features. Girls like a guy who is athletic, who can still move like an athlete (and not like a gorilla or ape due to his giant lats and quads). He also realized the pussy pulling power of abs and a narrow waist that make a visual line down to the cock. That is actually also why Zane’s body was admired, and why even now, 30-40 years later, people here still point to him as the ideal physique. Attraction is mainly a genetic programming for women, influenced to some extent by external factors, such as TV etc. Zyzz realized that the hardcore bodybuilding “ideal” had become out of sync with what chicks liked, and he set about totally redefining it. And was in the process of succeeding big time. Think about commercial marketability. How much more marketable a guy like Zyzz was vs say a blubber monster like Trey.
-One final thing. Zyzz had charisma by the bucket load. You might think Arnold got his fame through his body, but it was actually his mind, combined with his body that got him there. His confidence, his cockyness, his social awareness. If you put Arnold’s brain into Louie F, I guarantee it would have been Louie that had all the fame and success that Arnold had.
No one knows this guy. His death barley made local news and the 30 seconds that made TV was all about his steroid abuse so knock it off already and quit acting like this clown was a superstar.
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The longer this thread goes I realize how perfect Zane was.
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)Interesting to read all these comments. A few comments from me, the original poster.
-To some of the people who have posted who seem to find happiness in a young guy's death, I suggest you have a serious think about why you would make such comments. Zyzz seemed like a fine, likeable guy, who had fun and more importantly did no-one any harm. Show a little respect for the guy please.
-It's kind of ironic that of all the guys here who dismiss Zyzz as a joke, Zyzz most probably had a better physique than 99% of nasty posters, and I suspect there is some hidden jealousy there.
-The comments about Zane being at level of many of today’s male fitness models etc is spot on. In any big gym, where a guy can have access to dbol and test, perhaps a little clen, you will see guys who if they have a lean athletic structure to start with, and they can start looking like Zane if they eat well, and train right.
-Zane was a master at posing. He knew how to show his positive features, and how to disguise his weaknesses. Arnold had the same skill. Jay too. And yes, Zyzz too.
-What Zane had, is a few very good photos taken of him, taken with great lighting and focus, which have become his legacy. Part of this is that in that era, you did not get photographed/videoed 24/7. If he was around today, you would see lots of photos that showed him with skinny forearms, stick legs, etc (which I guess is still better than the “off-form” pics we see now of pros with pregnant stomachs).
-Zyzz understood the power of the camera. And the power of social media. He really made an effort to capture flattering photos (which sadly became his legacy). But the Zyzz photos were taken ever since he first started, so of course you are going to see some of him looking skinny. If he had not died, I believe he would have evolved into a physique that could have produced photos superior to the best pics of Zane. What was not captured was Zyzz in his last 3 or so months starting to bulk up. He had decided go from 90kg to over 100kg, which with his leanness apparently looked pretty damn impressive. Some who saw him just days before he died said he looked “Huge”.
-Now think about this. If Zyzz is a nobody, why does everyone here, or in bodybuilding know of him? The reason is that he was at the driving force in redefining the look that young guys want and aspire to these days. Between Zane to Haney we had guys who were in proportion with a move to getting bigger. Then we got into the era of monster freaks – Ronnie, Dorian, Mattarazo, Nasser, Ruhl, and then beyond that into actual mutations such as Branch and Kai and people who developed Polumboism. The reality is, not many people, really, want to look like that, not able to climb stairs, not able to fit into normal clothes, and looking fat and rediculus when wearing a suit - Chick being a good example of that. Most chicks are disgusted by a guy like that. Show any hot chick a piz of Zyzz compared to a monster, and who do you think she will get wet over and want to fuck? Part of the apparent anger against Zyzz, is I think that he has been provocative in making the old school of bodybuilders realize how pointless, and ridiculous their goals are. Guys that are working their ass off to get big, shoveling food down, taking GH, slin, etc, for what? So that other guys might be intimidated about how tough they look, and yet they are not pulling any pussy? Zyzz realized what girls like, and he enhanced those features. Girls like a guy who is athletic, who can still move like an athlete (and not like a gorilla or ape due to his giant lats and quads). He also realized the pussy pulling power of abs and a narrow waist that make a visual line down to the cock. That is actually also why Zane’s body was admired, and why even now, 30-40 years later, people here still point to him as the ideal physique. Attraction is mainly a genetic programming for women, influenced to some extent by external factors, such as TV etc. Zyzz realized that the hardcore bodybuilding “ideal” had become out of sync with what chicks liked, and he set about totally redefining it. And was in the process of succeeding big time. Think about commercial marketability. How much more marketable a guy like Zyzz was vs say a blubber monster like Trey.
-One final thing. Zyzz had charisma by the bucket load. You might think Arnold got his fame through his body, but it was actually his mind, combined with his body that got him there. His confidence, his cockyness, his social awareness. If you put Arnold’s brain into Louie F, I guarantee it would have been Louie that had all the fame and success that Arnold had.
Two (2) self-ownings in the same thread!? Eat a lot of paint when you were young, gib?
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Lol - how have I been self owned? I posed a question, and it raised lots of discussion.
For the record, if you assume my question related to the two of them competing at a bbing event, based on their best attained physiques, yes of course Zane would win.
Would Zyzz have created a physique better than Zane's, given 5-8 years, had he not died. Yes, I think that's possible too.
Any by the way, I think either way, its very likely Zyzz had a WAY better physique than any anything you have ever attained.
Another thought - how about you measure Zyzz vs Zane in terms of which guy a chick would most like to fuck - who wins then? And admit it, unless you are gay and into muscle schmoes admiring your big bulky body, what was the reason you got into weights anyway? To impress guys? Or to impress girls...?
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Sorry,I don`t read fairy tales!
Yet you comment on them...
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Another retarded lunatic schmoe who begs for zyzz cock in his ass...... ::)
Nope - not gay, not a schmoe. I can gaurantee I get more pussy than you.
Zyzz was on to something. He got what Zane had. Bob Paris was another guys who got it. Enhance the features chicks like. Keep in in proportion. Abs with the V pointing down to the cock. That's what chicks like, not a bloated ape...
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natural zane...
(http://www.frankzane.com/web/photo_gallery/Zane_Photos/p2r2c2_large.jpg)
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Some of these pics Zane was actually 220-225 pounds believe it or not. In fact, he was over 200 pounds (not by much though) at the 1982 Mr. Olympia if I'm not mistaken. He had the capacity to get heavier, but it compromised his aesthetics according to him. Still, 190-200 pounds at 4% on a 5'9"ish guy is very impressive.
Bingo!
He got smaller, but better in 70s, and gradually got bigger in the early 80s
That pic with the autograph, is to me, bodybuilding
Just my opinion obviously
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Beats him at what?
He is a pro bodybuilder who dedicated two decades of his life to balancing his physique out.
I said i don't think his aesthetics are that great. Not that he wasn't a great bodybuilder or didn't look good.
His pics as a young man are not impressive, i already posted a few.
Ok names for fatty schmoe even though i already did this....
Nubret, Labrada, Paris, Rory, Clairmonte, Benfatto.
I agree zane at Zzzzzzzzzzzyx 's age was inferior. Yes, zzzzzzzzyxz did a lot of tre and gh etc from the get go, zane was small-ecto, then shapely bloofy, then great, then fantastic, then super ripped unbelievable perfect mass with flow, then a bit bigger and still ripped and perfect into his late forties
But you're wrong with the fitness models!
Would zane turn pro looking like he did when MrO? No, I think many ex mr olympias wouldn't place top 6 at npc, but that's apples and oranges
Nubret I explained it earlier, disappeared in arms overhead poses, didn't do well in comparisons
Labrada, perfect! But too short
Paris, back was a problem when compared to comtemporaries, best big guy ever
Rory, pity we didn't see more of him, who knows
Clairmonte, had flaws, great arms, big man
Benfatto. Perfection. Zanes successor, zane was a fan, too short
Zane was zane, but its personal opinion
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Whatever dude you are blind .
X2....again...ND beating people over the head with his opinion, and stating it as fact.
I am not as impressed with Frank Zane as some people here, I don't think he's as great as he's cracked up to be. I'm not going to shout down and insult everyone who disagrees with me, (like some people we know) but that is my opinion, and I will stick to it
People shit all over this Zyzz kid, and I have no clue why. I did it too at first, until I thought about it. He was a kid, barely into his 20's, of course he was a little full of himself...it's not a crime. and he did have a sense of humor about it. As afr as his build...I thought he looked pretty good and had a very good structure, great abs, and his pecs were perfectly shaped in my opinion. arms not so great...legs had good shape, shoulders and traps were just fine, and the thing about his physique is...it flowed, and you either have that or you don't. that is what was "special" about him...if you want to call it that...he just looked "good". there are thousands of gym rats taking the same stuff he did...that don't look anything like him.
Now...I'm not a Zyzz "fan" he's just a kid who had a really good build....but I certainly don't see the need to hate on him.
Comparing him to Zane is stupid. Zane is a three time mr Olympia...I mean come on already,,,it's beyond stupid
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Out of solidarity to Wes , I'm also boycotting this thread
Since I couldn't find a pic of Zzzzzzzyzzzxyz,nor a top fitness amateur, I settled for a pic of frank zane as my new profile pic
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Out of solidarity to Wes , I'm also boycotting this thread
Since I couldn't find a pic of Zzzzzzzyzzzxyz,nor a top fitness amateur, I settled for a pic of frank zane as my new profile pic
Way to go my brother in iron!! ;D
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Yet you comment on them...
I felt sorry for your delusion. :(
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Frank Zyzz would win, i'm certain.
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They didn't call Zane "The Chemist" for no reason.....
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They didn't call Zane "The Chemist" for no reason.....
He ran a meth lab ?
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This whole topic is just ludicrous.
Frank Zane was a world class bodybuilder....a 3 time Sandow winner!
This Zyzzz character wouldn't make a pimple on Zane's ass.....Zyzzz couldn't carry his jock strap.
This is just mind blowing that some folks here think that Zane has been surpassed......What a foolish thing to think or say.
Zane is a legend and probably the most complete Mr. Olympia of all time.
Just my 2 cents.
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Branch did pretty well in a recent Olympia too. So, who would rather look like? Branch or Zyzz?
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Branch did pretty well in a recent Olympia too. So, who would rather look like? Branch or Zyzz?
NEITHER!!!
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Branch did pretty well in a recent Olympia too. So, who would rather look like? Branch or Zyzz?
Read the title of the thread....you started. Comparing Zyzzzzzz to Zane is absolutely laughable.
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Off season Zane looked great. In shape he's stringy - somewhat like Stallone.
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This whole topic is just ludicrous.
Frank Zane was a world class bodybuilder....a 3 time Sandow winner!
This Zyzzz character wouldn't make a pimple on Zane's ass.....Zyzzz couldn't carry his jock strap.
This is just mind blowing that some folks here think that Zane has been surpassed......What a foolish thing to think or say.
Zane is a legend and probably the most complete Mr. Olympia of all time.
Just my 2 cents.
& Aziz was 3X Mr.PUniverse ;D ;D ;D
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1st Steve Reeves
2nd Frank Zane
3rd Bob Paris/Serge Nubret/Anibal Lopez/Kozo Sudo
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natural zane...
(http://www.frankzane.com/web/photo_gallery/Zane_Photos/p2r2c2_large.jpg)
so he survived Auschwitz...
twink.,
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1st Steve Reeves
2nd Frank Zane
3rd Bob Paris/Serge Nubret/Anibal Lopez/Kozo Sudo
Kozo sudo was an asian nubret!
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Kozo sudo was an asian nubret!
with giant triceps
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so he survived Auschwitz...
twink.,
good leg genes there and shoulder structure,,just add mass and he did his way,,,
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1st Steve Reeves
2nd Frank Zane
3rd Bob Paris/Serge Nubret/Anibal Lopez/Kozo Sudo
Great bodybuilders,and Lopez and Sudo should have received more coverage in the mags.
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natural zane...
(http://www.frankzane.com/web/photo_gallery/Zane_Photos/p2r2c2_large.jpg)
100m freestyle or butterfly ?
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X2....again...ND beating people over the head with his opinion, and stating it as fact.
I am not as impressed with Frank Zane as some people here, I don't think he's as great as he's cracked up to be. I'm not going to shout down and insult everyone who disagrees with me, (like some people we know) but that is my opinion, and I will stick to it
People shit all over this Zyzz kid, and I have no clue why. I did it too at first, until I thought about it. He was a kid, barely into his 20's, of course he was a little full of himself...it's not a crime. and he did have a sense of humor about it. As afr as his build...I thought he looked pretty good and had a very good structure, great abs, and his pecs were perfectly shaped in my opinion. arms not so great...legs had good shape, shoulders and traps were just fine, and the thing about his physique is...it flowed, and you either have that or you don't. that is what was "special" about him...if you want to call it that...he just looked "good". there are thousands of gym rats taking the same stuff he did...that don't look anything like him.
Now...I'm not a Zyzz "fan" he's just a kid who had a really good build....but I certainly don't see the need to hate on him.
Comparing him to Zane is stupid. Zane is a three time mr Olympia...I mean come on already,,,it's beyond stupid
My feelings exactly, excellent post
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My feelings exactly, excellent post
These are my feelings on this too. A lot of jealous dudes out there.
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Good interview of Chick with Zane at the Arnold Classic:
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/12-arnold-classic/4121-frank-zane-with-bob-at-the-arnold-classic-2012-expo.html
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Many fitness models have surpassed this ::)
so where are these zane crushing models?
i hope you are not talking about greg plitt "jedi master of photoshop"
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/gallery/g-pltt/148509_180583255289239_100000126987054_687445_878501_n.jpg)
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young bloke I work with has just started going to the gym and discovered this Zyzz fella, raving about him how he was the most ripped guy in australia and a total beast.
Checking these old threads can see he looked good standing there but great comparisons to zane a worldclass bodybuilder blowing him away in development and conditioing, especially in that vacumm shot.
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Great interview for all those Hulka-Zaniacs out there brother.
But to be serious, Frank seems a bit more outgoing this year.
Comparing Zyzzzzzzzzzzz to Zane is silly. Frank was real, that other douche was just an internet ass-clown.
Frank also competed in Powerlifting and Weightlifting, not just inter-webz posing like Zyzzzzzzzzzzzz... ::)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oZYwqahJBlA/T6MnE1v_A8I/AAAAAAAAE-s/ykVUbCu1GtA/s1600/006.jpg)
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young bloke I work with has just started going to the gym and discovered this Zyzz fella, raving about him how he was the most ripped guy in australia and a total beast.
Checking these old threads can see he looked good standing there but great comparisons to zane a worldclass bodybuilder blowing him away in development and conditioing, especially in that vacumm shot.
Most ripped skeleton in Sydney's Roockwood Cemetery :P.
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Great interview for all those Hulka-Zaniacs out there brother.
But to be serious, Frank seems a bit more outgoing this year.
Comparing Zyzzzzzzzzzzz to Zane is silly. Frank was real, that other douche was just an internet ass-clown.
Frank also competed in Powerlifting and Weightlifting, not just inter-webz posing like Zyzzzzzzzzzzzz... ::)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oZYwqahJBlA/T6MnE1v_A8I/AAAAAAAAE-s/ykVUbCu1GtA/s1600/006.jpg)
That still you posted is from a Pabst Blue ribbon beer commercial that was on tv for awhile. The weight on the bar was 496lbs. Eight 55lbs red bumper plates and 5.5lbs collars. The barbell was a fake prop. There is no way in his prime could Zane have cleaned and jerked that weight. I wonder if he could have deadlifted it. Zane was a great bodybuilder.
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Frank Zane competing in his powerlifting/beer commercial. ;)
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;D
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Zane beat Arnold. This thread should be one page.
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zane was a bodybuilder who didnt look that big in clothes but when he peeled he was a sight to see, imo a true legend.
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;D
thats a classic shot of zane, tinerino, boyer and the other guy
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Frank Zane competing in his powerlifting/beer commercial. ;)
Wow! I haven't seen that commercial in maybe 30 plus years. It was such a big deal to bodybuilding fans that they used a bodybuilder. I believe this was pre internet or if it existed I didn't know one person who had it.
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That still you posted is from a Pabst Blue ribbon beer commercial that was on tv for awhile. The weight on the bar was 496lbs. Eight 55lbs red bumper plates and 5.5lbs collars. The barbell was a fake prop. There is no way in his prime could Zane have cleaned and jerked that weight. I wonder if he could have deadlifted it. Zane was a great bodybuilder.
Correct, but Frank had some decent Powerlifting numbers for his day (and weight), Ill see if I can dig them up..
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i wonder just out of curiousity who is more famous world wide frank zane or zyzz. I also think a lot of the zyzz appeal is connected to the rave,dance seen. Some of them songs in his have propelled the artists to fame and I would guess made them a lot of money. I don't really remember anyone giving a fuck about find yourself or monster now you hear that shit all over the place even in the usa. Zyzz has a big built in fan base with the xtc,coke dance seen culture
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Nice shot of Samir!
I`m out of this stupid thread!
lol poor wes to bad wes looks more like zyzz then anyone on this board :P maybe wyzz should be his name:D grandfather of aesthetics. Although wes attained his build with far more hard work and less drugs and is way older. ANd that isnt a cheap shot either it amazing to me that someone in there mid 50s can look that awesome on basic cycles