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Title: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
I made a thread a while back about visiting a new doctor and my BP was high, etc. and I told him the cycle I was on.
Anyhow...
last night I was in a club and this young guy grabs me by the arm and he was TWISTED drunk. I knew him to see only and he says "Dave, what you are on? What are you taking?". I was like "ugh, creatine and protein, bro".
He stares at me...asks me "do you know X McX?"...and stared me in the eyes. The name didn't actually ring a bell for a second and then he goes "you know him, that's my father". It was the doctor's son.
I was like..."oh yeah...but why are you asking me if I know your father?"
He says "oh I saw you going into him the other day". Which was absolute bullshit.
He replies "Don't worry, my father says nothing". I replied "I hope not." and walked away.

My blood started to boil today the more I thought about it. I live abroad but am back in Ireland for a bit of a vacation and the town I live in is small. Now it's obvious to see me that I'm juicing and most people do ask me if I am. I used to admit it but now I just deny, deny, deny.

I've decided I'm going to ring the doctor's office at 9am and tell his secretary to have him call me back when he has free time and I'm going to tell the story and see what he has to say. I am gonna tell him I'm not happy. I always thought patient-doctor confidentiality was upheld but obviously not in this case.

What are your thoughts, lads?
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: SF1900 on June 10, 2012, 07:28:32 PM
What are your thoughts, lads?

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Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: makaveli25 on June 10, 2012, 07:30:43 PM
Tell that idiot to keep his mouth shut. I would be pissed off. You could probational sue his dumb ass.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: godeep on June 10, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
My wife's uncle was our family doctor until he retired and basically the whole family knew everything about everyone because he would talk to his wife (my mother-in-law's sister) and she would blab

My opinion is to be honest with him about how you feel and don't let the anger spill out; you could get the situation fixed and have a dr on your side (which I have never had due to the story I mentioned above)
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:34:24 PM
My wife's uncle was our family doctor until he retired and basically the whole family knew everything about everyone because he would talk to his wife (my mother-in-law's sister) and she would blab

My opinion is to be honest with him about how you feel and don't let the anger spill out; you could get the situation fixed and have a dr on your side (which I have never had due to the story I mentioned above)

I can't outright accuse him. I'm going to tell the story as I told here and ask what he thinks of what I told him and judge it from there. Am I better off making an appointment and going in or just speaking about it over the phone? Asshole might even try charge me consultation if I go in.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:35:50 PM
What are your thoughts, lads?


retard
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:38:00 PM
My wife's uncle was our family doctor until he retired and basically the whole family knew everything about everyone because he would talk to his wife (my mother-in-law's sister) and she would blab

My opinion is to be honest with him about how you feel and don't let the anger spill out; you could get the situation fixed and have a dr on your side (which I have never had due to the story I mentioned above)

I'll never go near him again. It was my first and only consultation. It's obvious his drunken son let the cat out of the bag. It was in his eyes when he was asking me if I knew his father, he asked me three times while staring me down...basically telling me "I know you're on all sorts of weird shit, Davey boy"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 10, 2012, 07:38:24 PM
I made a thread a while back about visiting a new doctor and my BP was high, etc. and I told him the cycle I was on.
Anyhow...
last night I was in a club and this young guy grabs me by the arm and he was TWISTED drunk. I knew him to see only and he says "Dave, what you are on? What are you taking?". I was like "ugh, creatine and protein, bro".
He stares at me...asks me "do you know X McX?"...and stared me in the eyes. The name didn't actually ring a bell for a second and then he goes "you know him, that's my father". It was the doctor's son.
I was like..."oh yeah...but why are you asking me if I know your father?"
He says "oh I saw you going into him the other day". Which was absolute bullshit.
He replies "Don't worry, my father says nothing". I replied "I hope not." and walked away.

My blood started to boil today the more I thought about it. I live abroad but am back in Ireland for a bit of a vacation and the town I live in is small. Now it's obvious to see me that I'm juicing and most people do ask me if I am. I used to admit it but now I just deny, deny, deny.

I've decided I'm going to ring the doctor's office at 9am and tell his secretary to have him call me back when he has free time and I'm going to tell the story and see what he has to say. I am gonna tell him I'm not happy. I always thought patient-doctor confidentiality was upheld but obviously not in this case.

What are your thoughts, lads?


No.

Here is what you do..  You call the office, ask to speak to your doctor and when the secretary asks what this is about, tell her that it involves a breach in patient-doctor confidentiality per your doctor's part.

Once he gets on the phone, tell him that you saw his son at a club, he approached you and told you that his father told him about your steroid use.  Don't pitch it any other way, tell him that his son approached you and told you how his father told him about your personal steroid use and how he(son) was then interested in asking about your cycle.

As soon as you tell him this, ask him why he would breach your right as a patient.  Tell him that you're disappointed and that he will hear from you very soon.

That's it.

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 10, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
I can't outright accuse him. I'm going to tell the story as I told here and ask what he thinks of what I told him and judge it from there. Am I better off making an appointment and going in or just speaking about it over the phone? Asshole might even try charge me consultation if I go in.

Make an appointment, but tell him it's not a dr related issue. That way he won't charge you for a dr visit, but will be worried about it until the day of the appointment. I'm sure by now his kid blabbed about running into you, thus putting two and two together when you call.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:39:38 PM
Make an appointment, but tell him it's not a dr related issue. That way he won't charge you for a dr visit, but will be worried about it until the day of the appointment. I'm sure by now his kid blabbed about running into you, thus putting two and two together when you call.

I really doubt the guy will remember meeting me, he was that wasted drunk. He tried to talk to me again later in the night but I shrugged him off
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
No.

Here is what you do..  You call the office, ask to speak to your doctor and when the secretary asks what this is about, tell her that it involves a breach in patient-doctor confidentiality per your doctor's part.

Once he gets on the phone, tell him that you saw his son at a club, he approached you and told you that his father told him about your steroid use.  Don't pitch it any other way, tell him that his son approached you and told you how his father told him about your personal steroid use and how he(son) was then interested in asking about your cycle.

As soon as you tell him this, ask him why he would breach your right as a patient.  Tell him that you're disappointed and that he will hear from you very soon.

That's it.

"1"

I don't want to get the guy in trouble either. It would make me look bad also as well as damaging his career. His attitude the first day was pretty bad with me, he was just saying "get off that shit" over and over when I told him about my steroid use. He was unprofessional from the very first day but I had heard that he was a good doctor before I went into him. I don't know if I want to take the hard line on it. I'd rather just go in and tell him what was said exactly but tell him that from reading between the lines he has been telling his son that I'm using steroids.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: hrspwr on June 10, 2012, 07:44:14 PM
Well, being Irish don`t you just have to get drunk and go punch him.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 10, 2012, 07:47:21 PM
I don't want to get the guy in trouble either. It would make me look bad also as well as damaging his career.  I don't know if I want to take the hard line on it.

You won't get him in trouble by simply telling him what I told you to say.  If anything, that will merely make him scared due to his reckless actions.

His attitude the first day was pretty bad with me, he was just saying "get off that shit" over and over when I told him about my steroid use. He was unprofessional from the very first day but I had heard that he was a good doctor before I went into him.

If he was a jerk to you from the moment you met him, why are you so hellbent on being nice to him?

I'd rather just go in and tell him what was said exactly but tell him that from reading between the lines he has been telling his son that I'm using steroids.

You go in and tell him what happened with his son and you think he will want to continue seeing you?  He is simply going to ask for you to see another doctor due to that event, which will now compromise his ability to properly care for you.

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:48:11 PM
You won't get him in trouble by simply telling him what I told you to say.  If anything, that will merely make him scared due to his reckless actions.

If he was a jerk to you from the moment you met him, why are you so hellbent on being nice to him?

You go in and tell him what happened with his son and you think he will want to continue seeing you?  He is simply going to ask for you to see another doctor due to that event, which will now compromise his ability to properly care for you.

"1"

I don't think he's a bad guy, I mean as soon as my blood tests came back he rang me immediately and told me they were fine and he was sending on the paperwork but he also put me on some low dose BP meds and gave me advice on what to do when I went back to Holland about getting a 24-hr bp monitor etc.

I'm just pissed 'cos his kid is a gym bunny who's going to run around telling the whole of town that he trains with that I'm on loads and loads of steroids (which I'm not, it was just a low dose of tren and test at the time)
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: SF1900 on June 10, 2012, 07:49:01 PM
retard

I'm the retard? You're coming on here asking for advice when it is clear that a doctor broke confidentiality issues. Do you seriously need advice for that? I guess you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
I'm the retard? You're coming on here asking for advice when it is clear that a doctor broke confidentiality issues. Do you seriously need advice for that? I guess you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

I'm asking for opinions on it and how to deal with it. What's wrong with that?
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Krankenstein on June 10, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
No.

Here is what you do..  You call the office, ask to speak to your doctor and when the secretary asks what this is about, tell her that it involves a breach in patient-doctor confidentiality per your doctor's part.

Once he gets on the phone, tell him that you saw his son at a club, he approached you and told you that his father told him about your steroid use.  Don't pitch it any other way, tell him that his son approached you and told you how his father told him about your personal steroid use and how he(son) was then interested in asking about your cycle.

As soon as you tell him this, ask him why he would breach your right as a patient.  Tell him that you're disappointed and that he will hear from you very soon.

That's it.

"1"

Its called HIPPA.....and he could seriously get the MD's ass in trouble.  The way of handling it...as I have been on the side of this guy with a Dr I once saw...you don't call him...you go into his office and you let him know what happened....FACE TO FACE.  The EXACT story.  That you are considering filing a complaint with the state medical board about it.

Wait a couple of days and see if he calls you. 
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 10, 2012, 08:11:22 PM
Its called HIPPA.....and he could seriously get the MD's ass in trouble.  The way of handling it...as I have been on the side of this guy with a Dr I once saw...you don't call him...you go into his office and you let him know what happened....FACE TO FACE.  The EXACT story.  That you are considering filing a complaint with the state medical board about it.

Wait a couple of days and see if he calls you. 

I think I should go in face to face about it, alright.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Big N on June 10, 2012, 09:12:22 PM
You're over thinking too much, which is quite normal because you're undecided and not sure on how to approach the situation without making enemies. Remember this, never confront anybody over the phone because you miss the eye contact and it'll give the other person enough time to ramble something up. Keep it simple, meet him in person and say what's on your mind like an adult. Expect the worse and hope for the best.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

make an appointment.

politely ask him for test, hgh, or whatever the hell else is on your prescribed wish list.

When he tells you it wouldn't be professionally responsible to give you a growth hormone prescription for life, you tell him 2 pieces of information:
   1) A legal reason for him to give it to you
   2) The story of him breaking ethics by telling his son this.

Then respectfully accept your new script and keep it between the two of you.  I bet he doesn't brag to his son about this one ;)
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: deadz on June 10, 2012, 09:40:22 PM
Never trust anyone.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: SF1900 on June 10, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
I'm asking for opinions on it and how to deal with it. What's wrong with that?

An easy google search would have revealed more information than what could be gathered on GB

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 10, 2012, 10:00:34 PM
Its called HIPPA.....and he could seriously get the MD's ass in trouble.  The way of handling it...as I have been on the side of this guy with a Dr I once saw...you don't call him...you go into his office and you let him know what happened....FACE TO FACE.  The EXACT story.  That you are considering filing a complaint with the state medical board about it.

Wait a couple of days and see if he calls you. 

Does HIPAA exist in Ireland?

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: delta9mda on June 10, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
stop crying like a bitch and do what Rep said.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 10, 2012, 10:46:11 PM
I don't know how big you are, Dave, but if you are in a wheelchair or so, that is so visible that a doctor can mention you sit in a wheelchair....
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 10, 2012, 11:43:42 PM
I made a thread a while back about visiting a new doctor and my BP was high, etc. and I told him the cycle I was on.
Anyhow...
last night I was in a club and this young guy grabs me by the arm and he was TWISTED drunk. I knew him to see only and he says "Dave, what you are on? What are you taking?". I was like "ugh, creatine and protein, bro".
He stares at me...asks me "do you know X McX?"...and stared me in the eyes. The name didn't actually ring a bell for a second and then he goes "you know him, that's my father". It was the doctor's son.
I was like..."oh yeah...but why are you asking me if I know your father?"
He says "oh I saw you going into him the other day". Which was absolute bullshit.
He replies "Don't worry, my father says nothing". I replied "I hope not." and walked away.

My blood started to boil today the more I thought about it. I live abroad but am back in Ireland for a bit of a vacation and the town I live in is small. Now it's obvious to see me that I'm juicing and most people do ask me if I am. I used to admit it but now I just deny, deny, deny.

I've decided I'm going to ring the doctor's office at 9am and tell his secretary to have him call me back when he has free time and I'm going to tell the story and see what he has to say. I am gonna tell him I'm not happy. I always thought patient-doctor confidentiality was upheld but obviously not in this case.

What are your thoughts, lads?


Is that in Dublin? Motherfucking hell!!!!

BTW: Doctors don't have a clue anyways I mean in Dublin, everytime I get a health check with a doctor that i may have not been before (which doesn't happen anymore since the birth of my son we are going to one doctor) they always ask me if I am on something ::) and I seriously don't think I look like it, but again if you look like you lift a little bit than they automaticly suspect you and they always have that tone in their voice like... you know this is wrong son right??!?!  Fuck you I'm 37 years old I can decide what I do and dont do for myself I don't pay you for lecturing me if I want a lecture I tell you, course I don't say that I just say no never have never will as far as I know right now but thanks for the compliment ::)
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 12:04:43 AM
USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

make an appointment.

politely ask him for test, hgh, or whatever the hell else is on your prescribed wish list.

When he tells you it wouldn't be professionally responsible to give you a growth hormone prescription for life, you tell him 2 pieces of information:
   1) A legal reason for him to give it to you
   2) The story of him breaking ethics by telling his son this.

Then respectfully accept your new script and keep it between the two of you.  I bet he doesn't brag to his son about this one ;)

Lol you have obviously never lived in a small Irish village :D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Mitch on June 11, 2012, 01:09:28 AM
Here my 2 cents:

are you sure the drunk guy wasn't trolling you. Like "oh this big fella is probably on sauce and I have seen him once by my dad's office, let's troll him for the lulz"

What if you go angry after the doctor and he says "I never talk to anyone about my patient's health, my son was just kidding, as he used to when he's drunk"

U mad? :D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:27:09 AM
Is that in Dublin? Motherfucking hell!!!!

BTW: Doctors don't have a clue anyways I mean in Dublin, everytime I get a health check with a doctor that i may have not been before (which doesn't happen anymore since the birth of my son we are going to one doctor) they always ask me if I am on something ::) and I seriously don't think I look like it, but again if you look like you lift a little bit than they automaticly suspect you and they always have that tone in their voice like... you know this is wrong son right??!?!  Fuck you I'm 37 years old I can decide what I do and dont do for myself I don't pay you for lecturing me if I want a lecture I tell you, course I don't say that I just say no never have never will as far as I know right now but thanks for the compliment ::)

No it's in the west of Ireland.

Basically, I am going to swich doctors for certain but I want to confront him about this. God knows how many people his son has told over the last 2 months about this. He went to the same school as me, same university and knows a lot of the same people I do but he's 3-4 years younger. People talk and talk a lot and maybe I should get some money out of him for damaging my reputation in town.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:29:57 AM
Here my 2 cents:

are you sure the drunk guy wasn't trolling you. Like "oh this big fella is probably on sauce and I have seen him once by my dad's office, let's troll him for the lulz"

What if you go angry after the doctor and he says "I never talk to anyone about my patient's health, my son was just kidding, as he used to when he's drunk"

U mad? :D

That's what he could say. It's highly doubtful he saw me going into his father, it's on a side street and nobody even knew I was in town, I was just home for a weekend. I don't know the guy at all, I never spoke to him before. Now, he probably knows I'm on steroids from word of mouth but for him to say it like he did...look, it was all in the way he asked if I knew his father.

He totally started to backtrack and slightly show panic when I asked him "Why are you asking about my father and HOW did you know I was in to  see him?"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:32:57 AM
I don't know how big you are, Dave, but if you are in a wheelchair or so, that is so visible that a doctor can mention you sit in a wheelchair....

I'm 6'5" 240ish...I've dropped about 10lbs lately I'm trying to lean up somewhat. Most people are shocked by me when they see me and in the pub/club I get asked every night about what I eat and if I take steroids, blah blah blah. You know the score, bro.
The son is a cheeky fucker and I don't want to let him get away with this one.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 02:33:52 AM
That's what he could say. It's highly doubtful he saw me going into his father, it's on a side street and nobody even knew I was in town, I was just home for a weekend. I don't know the guy at all, I never spoke to him before. Now, he probably knows I'm on steroids from word of mouth but for him to say it like he did...look, it was all in the way he asked if I knew his father.

He totally started to backtrack and slightly show panic when I asked him "Why are you asking about my father and HOW did you know I was in to  see him?"

Bro, I think he tried to get on your good site.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: smoothasf on June 11, 2012, 02:38:27 AM
Its legal what's your problem. You want to lie about you usage just like every other filth.  you don't see smokers saying na man i don't smoke or pitch about  people knowing what brand they use. I never lied about it when i did there's just no need unless your embarrassed by what you do.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:40:00 AM
Bro, I think he tried to get on your good site.

How do you mean? He suddenly realised in his drunken stupor that he had admitted to knowing my personal circumstances by what his father said?
For one, how the hell did he know I had been to his father? Brand new patient, never met his father before. There's a very slim chance he saw me enter the office and it was 2 months ago. How would you deal with it, Stark?
I am about to ring his office in the next hour, I've been on the phone all morning about other issues but I'm definitely going to try to deal with this face to face. As someone said earlier, it's better to deal with this in person as you can judge a person's body language better and they have less time to react.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:42:04 AM
Its legal what's your problem. You want to lie about you usage just like every other filth.  you don't see smokers saying na man i don't smoke or pitch about  people knowing what brand they use. I never lied about it when i did there's just no need unless your embarrassed by what you do.

Listen, it's the principle of it. I'm not proud of what I do but I'm not ashamed of it either. All my good friends know and if someone I know asks me in all honesty how I got to my size, I don't lie and I tell them what's up. Why should I tell some cocky dickhead who I don't even know what sorta cycle I'm running? And why should his father, an MD, go around telling his son over the dinner table about his patients and what their personal drug use is? I don't think it's right and he's probably done it before many, many times.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 02:46:52 AM
How do you mean? He suddenly realised in his drunken stupor that he had admitted to knowing my personal circumstances by what his father said?
For one, how the hell did he know I had been to his father? Brand new patient, never met his father before. There's a very slim chance he saw me enter the office and it was 2 months ago. How would you deal with it, Stark?
I am about to ring his office in the next hour, I've been on the phone all morning about other issues but I'm definitely going to try to deal with this face to face. As someone said earlier, it's better to deal with this in person as you can judge a person's body language better and they have less time to react.

Let me explain it to your think headed drunken bog trotting Fenian head ;)

So by now i'm pretty sure you looked jacked, as you are well aware that isn't something that you see a lot here, he's probably all into BBing probably has his dad telling him to take it easy giving him tips and advice etc. ::)
So next he sees you in the club and wants to get on your good side so he can get first hand information what to take to look like you, I mean come on its not that hard to see.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: smoothasf on June 11, 2012, 02:48:36 AM
All medical pros go home and tell their family alll unfortunately this dickhead son blurted it on. You should have slapped him like a pitch for opening his mouth. He couldn't have done anything about it considering the situation he was in.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 02:49:55 AM
Listen, it's the principle of it. I'm not proud of what I do but I'm not ashamed of it either. All my good friends know and if someone I know asks me in all honesty how I got to my size, I don't lie and I tell them what's up. Why should I tell some cocky dickhead who I don't even know what sorta cycle I'm running? And why should his father, an MD, go around telling his son over the dinner table about his patients and what their personal drug use is? I don't think it's right and he's probably done it before many, many times.

But wait a second...

Why do you give a shit what other people think? That's your first problem right there - what you mean "you are not proud of it" :D - that sentence right there is ridicules - if somebody asks you if you juice you tell them to mind their own business and move on - say in a nice calm and smile all the way they get the drift :D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:51:09 AM
Update:
Just rang the secretary and said I needed to meet the doctor later for about 10 minutes but that it wasn't a medical consultation. I needed to discuss a matter with him. She said he was very busy this afternoon and I said "Well...it's a pretty serious matter". She paused and said "...OK" and I said it's a possible breach of doctor-patient confidentiality and I wanted to speak to him about it. She said she'd ring me in a while and I said I didn't want to speak over the phone I wanted to come in about it. He will probably be wondering now wtf is going on. It may give him more time to put 2 and 2 together but at least he will be worried somewhat.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 02:51:52 AM
All medical pros go home and tell their family alll unfortunately this dickhead son blurted it on. You should have slapped him like a pitch for opening his mouth. He couldn't have done anything about it considering the situation he was in.

Lol tell me about it, just a few month ago we were walking in the part with my son and my wife, our doctor with his wife walks past us my wife greets I pretend I didn't see them by pretending to be very busy with my son.

Reason? My doctor just had a finger up my arse a few days ago, ANY man who had a doctors finger up his arse will have some issues looking him into his eyes.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:52:16 AM
But wait a second...

Why do you give a shit what other people think? That's your first problem right there - what you mean "you are not proud of it" :D - that sentence right there is ridicules - if somebody asks you if you juice you tell them to mind their own business and move on - say in a nice calm and smile all the way they get the drift :D

I used to admit to it all the time but the reactions I got were very negative so now I keep it to myself. I'm not a denier to my friends and people I know but why should I admit to some random guy with an attitude. If he came over and asked nicely and asked for advice I'd give it no problem.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 02:52:46 AM
Update:
Just rang the secretary and said I needed to meet the doctor later for about 10 minutes but that it wasn't a medical consultation. I needed to discuss a matter with him. She said he was very busy this afternoon and I said "Well...it's a pretty serious matter". She paused and said "...OK" and I said it's a possible breach of doctor-patient confidentiality and I wanted to speak to him about it. She said she'd ring me in a while and I said I didn't want to speak over the phone I wanted to come in about it. He will probably be wondering now wtf is going on. It may give him more time to put 2 and 2 together but at least he will be worried somewhat.

HAHAHAHA OMG this is going to be awesome, keep us updated :D

I love this shit :D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:53:17 AM
Lol tell me about it, just a few month ago we were walking in the part with my son and my wife, our doctor with his wife walks past us my wife greets I pretend I didn't see them by pretending to be very busy with my son.

Reason? My doctor just had a finger up my arse a few days ago, ANY man who had a doctors finger up his arse will have some issues looking him into his eyes.

roflmbo
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 02:58:18 AM
I used to admit to it all the time but the reactions I got were very negative so now I keep it to myself. I'm not a denier to my friends and people I know but why should I admit to some random guy with an attitude. If he came over and asked nicely and asked for advice I'd give it no problem.

lol no but wait dave, your words give you away right there - You were "admitting" to it, you need to change that bro, you don't need to "admit" to anything, i don't get it, so describe that to me, you are I dunno go to BBQ and there are people that you never talked to and they casually ask you if you take steroids?

I mean I had a fair share of people laughingly saying your size is probably down to steroids (and Im NOT jacked) and I laugh it off. One thing that works beautiful is what I have done in front of everybody last BBQ I went were this one dick head kept making stupid comments about my size, the minute I walked in the house with a whole lot of people already there he was like: WHOW better get more steaks on the grill hahaha - that was okay funny - but he kept making remarks like you know going out of his way to make remarks like - he has to go sideways through the doors hahaha.
So the last time he made a remark I told him in front of everybody that if he wants to get rid of his belly and man boobs he can consult me anytime :D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: wes on June 11, 2012, 03:05:06 AM
Get drunk,wait outside his office until he`s done work for the day,beat the living shit out of him with a baseball bat.

Enjoy your jail time!!  :D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 03:06:12 AM
lol no but wait dave, your words give you away right there - You were "admitting" to it, you need to change that bro, you don't need to "admit" to anything, i don't get it, so describe that to me, you are I dunno go to BBQ and there are people that you never talked to and they casually ask you if you take steroids?

I mean I had a fair share of people laughingly saying your size is probably down to steroids (and Im NOT jacked) and I laugh it off. One thing that works beautiful is what I have done in front of everybody last BBQ I went were this one dick head kept making stupid comments about my size, the minute I walked in the house with a whole lot of people already there he was like: WHOW better get more steaks on the grill hahaha - that was okay funny - but he kept making remarks like you know going out of his way to make remarks like - he has to go sideways through the doors hahaha.
So the last time he made a remark I told him in front of everybody that if he wants to get rid of his belly and man boobs he can consult me anytime :D

Man, I get sooo much of that as well. Every time I go to the toilet in a pub/club "jasus you're a big unit", "jasus what do you eat, babies?", "do you play rugby? why do you need to be so big?", etc.
Was at Forbidden Fruit outdoor gig in Dublin last weekend and I got "steroids!", "meathead!" from small groups of GUYS as you walk past, I just turn and laugh or smile and show it doesn't bother me because I actually sort of like the attention. I can only imagine how much hassle some dudes on here get who are twice my size, lol.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 03:08:06 AM
Man, I get sooo much of that as well. Every time I go to the toilet in a pub/club "jasus you're a big unit", "jasus what do you eat, babies?", "do you play rugby? why do you need to be so big?", etc.
Was at Forbidden Fruit outdoor gig in Dublin last weekend and I got "steroids!", "meathead!" from small groups of GUYS as you walk past, I just turn and laugh or smile and show it doesn't bother me because I actually sort of like the attention. I can only imagine how much hassle some dudes on here get who are twice my size, lol.

yeah no I don't get that kinda reaction at all so i don't want to make it sound I do, but just sometimes with assholes like the one above, I think you do well ignoring it.
What kinda cloth are you wearing?

Do you know some of the guys working out in the hercules? Like Bernie etc.? I mean some of them are ridicules big, but as far as I know the bigger they get the less they go out and the more they get reclusive.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 03:11:46 AM
Update: meeting him at 2.50pm in the office
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 03:14:59 AM
yeah no I don't get that kinda reaction at all so i don't want to make it sound I do, but just sometimes with assholes like the one above, I think you do well ignoring it.
What kinda cloth are you wearing?

Do you know some of the guys working out in the hercules? Like Bernie etc.? I mean some of them are ridicules big, but as far as I know the bigger they get the less they go out and the more they get reclusive.

I don't train in Dublin I'm from the West but I know who you are talking about. Those guys rarely drink I'd say but I like my sauce and I go out all the time. I was wearing a tight v-neck and yeah...I get a lot of attention wearing them. But it was't a ridiculously low cut one or anything. But most of the attention I get is just a bit of banter and fun and ball breaking which is like water off a duck's back for me.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 03:19:10 AM
I don't train in Dublin I'm from the West but I know who you are talking about. Those guys rarely drink I'd say but I like my sauce and I go out all the time. I was wearing a tight v-neck and yeah...I get a lot of attention wearing them. But it was't a ridiculously low cut one or anything. But most of the attention I get is just a bit of banter and fun and ball breaking which is like water off a duck's back for me.

alright, I mean you like the attention so that's cool, I always though that hidding the size is even more impressive, but sure I understand.

Lol at your update cannot wait, dont go to hardass on him, remember its like an interrogation, you accuse him to early he will just deny it, anyways dont even think he will admit to it, hes not going to loose his license because of you.
He probably will say he will have a word with his son etc.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 03:42:29 AM
alright, I mean you like the attention so that's cool, I always though that hidding the size is even more impressive, but sure I understand.

Lol at your update cannot wait, dont go to hardass on him, remember its like an interrogation, you accuse him to early he will just deny it, anyways dont even think he will admit to it, hes not going to loose his license because of you.
He probably will say he will have a word with his son etc.

I won't be a hardass at all. I can't go in frothing at the mouth all guns blazing and start accusing the guy...I'll tell him what's up and gauge his reaction to what I tell him. I just want him to know I'm not a fool. I certainly don't want him to lose his license but I want to scare him a bit.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: dr.chimps on June 11, 2012, 03:45:52 AM
I'd be cautious, and cool it down. I'd more assume that the son is being a loud-mouthed idiot than the doctor/father is being 'un-doctorly. ' In any case, he is your physician and does have some sway in your life so I'd be careful about getting up in his face. 
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 04:01:43 AM
I'd be cautious, and cool it down. I'd more assume that the son is being a loud-mouthed idiot than the doctor/father is being 'un-doctorly. ' In any case, he is your physician and does have some sway in your life so I'd be careful about getting up in his face. 

I just said I'm not getting up in his face, I'm gonna deal with it calmly. He won't be my physician any longer though. Surely he won't want to have me as a patient after this.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: dr.chimps on June 11, 2012, 04:07:28 AM
I just said I'm not getting up in his face, I'm gonna deal with it calmly. He won't be my physician any longer though. Surely he won't want to have me as a patient after this.
That's an assumption on your part. May be he has no idea of any of this, may be he doesn't care, may be he's interested...who knows.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 04:31:52 AM
That's an assumption on your part. May be he has no idea of any of this, may be he doesn't care, may be he's interested...who knows.

LOL, I'm sure he will care.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 04:33:54 AM
LOL, I'm sure he will care.

Remember IF and I mean IF you have to shitkick him - make it a good beating and get as much free roids out of it as possible - at least you go super jacked to Mount Joy.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on June 11, 2012, 04:40:59 AM
well, you do say that everyone asks you what your taking, so how is it different when this kid asks you ? a tad paranoia?

and yeah doctors are supposed to keep it confidential, and thats mostly for legal purposes ( i.e. your company cant call your doctor and get your medical history etc), but no doubt these docs go home and tell their families, specially if you live in a small town and everyone knows eachother , i can see the doc saying at dinner table" so , that irish dave guy came to me today, we was taking some stuff and thought it was affecting his BP"....

im more suprised about your attitude in this regards..

first your gonna call your doctor and ask him why his son asked you what your taking? and this is all the while when everyone in your town asks you?

and when the kid says his father didnt say anything, your response is " i hope not", thats incriminating right there, the kid needs to know all he knows...
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 04:47:11 AM
well, you do say that everyone asks you what your taking, so how is it different when this kid asks you ? a tad paranoia?

and yeah doctors are supposed to keep it confidential, and thats mostly for legal purposes ( i.e. your company cant call your doctor and get your medical history etc), but no doubt these docs go home and tell their families, specially if you live in a small town and everyone knows eachother , i can see the doc saying at dinner table" so , that irish dave guy came to me today, we was taking some stuff and thought it was affecting his BP"....

im more suprised about your attitude in this regards..

first your gonna call your doctor and ask him why his son asked you what your taking? and this is all the while when everyone in your town asks you?

and when the kid says his father didnt say anything, your response is " i hope not", thats incriminating right there, the kid needs to know all he knows...

I think I need to make myself more clear. I am not bothered by the fact his son knows I'm using steroids. I'm bothered by the fact his father told him. That's what the conversation led me to believe. It was the way he asked me THREE times did I know his father. So he was basically telling me with his demeanour that he knew "something".

1) I had never visited his father before for a consultation, it was my first time meeting his father. My own doctor was on vacation so I registered with him.
2) He knew who I was - this doesn't bother me too much as most people know me to see. But he knew I visited his father. This means his father told him, certainly. Because there are SEVERAL doctors in that office block. He knew I went to see HIS father.
3) He was taken aback when I asked him HOW he knew I had been to see his father. He was flustered and realised in his drunken state he blurted shit out.
4) I don't care if I gave myself away, I obviously did when I said "I hope not" but that was more of a dig at him to say "I'm thinking maybe he does talk about his patients".

Does this make it any more clear WHY I'm upset?

If I was really, really upset I would have already reported this to the medical council of Ireland. But I'm not going to. I want him to know that I know he talks and I want his arrogant son to be punished. I don't like the son...he comes across with an attitude any time I see him and his demeanour with me was pretty in my face at the time too, especially seeing as he never spoke to me before. If he had been nicer I'd have told him about my cycle but he just tackled me pretty much.

5) One last point: the father's attitude was very condescending and he acted like he was my dad or something in the way he spoke to me during the consultation. "get off that crap, it's no good" etc, etc, talking down to me. Now, he has a point. But he was acting unprofessional. I didn't like it at all and he left me with a bad taste leaving his theatre.

The only plus was that he did ring me promptly with my blood tests so he did actually care about my health. But regardless he shouldn't talk about me over bacon and cabbage at the dinner table.



In all seriousness, I'm a real easy going guy and friendly and I don't want to damage the guy's career in any way, but I want him to personally hear from me how unhappy I am.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Krankenstein on June 11, 2012, 04:48:20 AM
An easy google search would have revealed more information than what could be gathered on GB

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/

Not really...I told him HIPPA was the thing to 'scare' him with....people would be AMAZED at the amount of HIPPA violations that occur in a medical office.

1) If you sign in on a piece of paper at ANY medical based office (chiro, MD, PT, dentist, etc)...and you can read other peoples names...
2) If they call you by your full name when its your turn to see the doctor/therapist....
3) If they call to confirm your appointment and leave a voicemail that can be retrieved by anyone at your home WITHOUT you authorizing it...
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 04:52:37 AM
Not really...I told him HIPPA was the thing to 'scare' him with....people would be AMAZED at the amount of HIPPA violations that occur in a medical office.

1) If you sign in on a piece of paper at ANY medical based office (chiro, MD, PT, dentist, etc)...and you can read other peoples names...
2) If they call you by your full name when its your turn to see the doctor/therapist....
3) If they call to confirm your appointment and leave a voicemail that can be retrieved by anyone at your home WITHOUT you authorizing it...

wow...didn't know these. Makes sense though. Private shit is private shit. Maybe I had anal warts and he goes around telling his son then the whole of town knows it.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Raymondo on June 11, 2012, 05:03:03 AM
I think the guy was just taking the piss out of you...
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Krankenstein on June 11, 2012, 05:08:45 AM
more...(mind you, these are SIMPLE things)

1) If there are charts in the 'holders' outside of the offices with the patient's name facing out....
2) If the office has charts behind the front desk and you can see ANY of the names....
3) Any family member calls up to see if you showed up for your appointment that day (or any other day)  I encourage ALL to try this...as soon as you leave the office...have someone call up and ask if you are still there.  See how many offices will say "he just left"
4) Take a gander at the trash behind the front desk...if ANYTHING is in that has ANYTHING regarding a patient that has their name on it
5) Freak your doctor out and ask them what their records disposal procedures are.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 05:18:02 AM
I think the guy was just taking the piss out of you...

Hey man, that's completely possible. But he is not doing his father any favours. Why would he be so stupid as to mention his name to me? He is hurting his father not me
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 05:29:21 AM
Hey man, that's completely possible. But he is not doing his father any favours. Why would he be so stupid as to mention his name to me? He is hurting his father not me

1h to go :D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 09:17:39 AM
Update:

Went in and met him, he was very friendly from the get-go and told me to sit down. Asked me what was bothering me and I told the story like here.
He said immediately he was taken aback completely by what I said and couldn't understand it. He straight away apologised for what was said and explained under no circumstances does he ever discuss patients with anybody and that was extremely embarrassed and that I should have hit his son a slap and that I had his permission to do such anytime I see him. I said there'd be no need for that and that he should know that this happened.
He must have apologised 10 times to me and said he was a doctor a long time and never had such an incident. He said he was gonna give the son a bollocking but then I started to feel a bit bad and said for him to go easy on the young lad because he was drunk and probably didn't know what he was saying.
I got up to go but he told me sit down again and talked more, he kept me for a good 20 minutes and was so apologetic. I couldn't read it really if he did say anything or not but I decided to let it go. I said that we wouldn't fall out over and it was water under the bridge. He said he'd apologise EVERY time he saw me from now on and I said "no no way, you apologised twice and thrice and more already and let this be the end of it now, no hard feelings and we'll leave it at that".
He even asked could he take my blood pressure but I said we'd leave it for another time and he insisted on doing it and asking me in detail how I was feeling, etc. My blood pressure was improved immensely and he gave me a repeat perscription because I still haven't got the 24-hr monitoring done yet (which I will do in the next few weeks when I get back to Holland).
He couldn't have been any nicer or remorseful. Honestly, I felt bad for even going in about it.
We shook hands again and I left.

I guess he needed to know...all's well that end's well and I'm forgetting about it now
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 09:29:55 AM
wait wait wait....

So first you bring an ungodly firestorm of hell uppon the doctor who than gives you permission to bitchslap his own son so the son is in HUGE trouble now haha than you feel bad for the son AND JUST TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR HIM YOU TELL HIM HE WAS DRUNK!!!!!

Your a fucking meat head :D :D :D

hes probably gonna drive him to the bog today and mercy kill him they find his fucking bog corpse in 200 years and cannot figure out why he was burried there :D
hahah you dipshit !
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 09:34:22 AM
wait wait wait....

So first you bring an ungodly firestorm of hell uppon the doctor who than gives you permission to bitchslap his own son so the son is in HUGE trouble now haha than you feel bad for the son AND JUST TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR HIM YOU TELL HIM HE WAS DRUNK!!!!!

Your a fucking meat head :D :D :D

hes probably gonna drive him to the bog today and mercy kill him they find his fucking bog corpse in 200 years and cannot figure out why he was burried there :D
hahah you dipshit !

Lol, not only did I say he was drunk I said he was wasted, twisted out of his mind. But I said when I was 20 I was in loads of trouble and had an even bigger mouth but that it was best he did say something to him so he'd cop on a bit.
The dude is gonna hate me big time. The doc also asked could the son ring me and apologise and I said there was no need, I didn't wanna hear from him but that he can deal with it himself.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 09:35:27 AM
Lol, not only did I say he was drunk I said he was wasted, twisted out of his mind. But I said when I was 20 I was in loads of trouble and had an even bigger mouth but that it was best he did say something to him so he'd cop on a bit.
The dude is gonna hate me big time. The doc also asked could the son ring me and apologise and I said there was no need, I didn't wanna hear from him but that he can deal with it himself.

Oh because that makes it sooooo much better, because the father has such a high opinion of you already :D :D

You tool ;D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 09:39:20 AM
Odd sort of small town yer from that has ye calling each other "bro"

Nah, I didn't call him bro. He was really pissing me off actually 'cos he was so drunk and grabbing at me
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 09:41:24 AM
Oh because that makes it sooooo much better, because the father has such a high opinion of you already :D :D

You tool ;D

Hahahaha...oh yeah he said the guy was taking "these protein shakes and stuff" and that he advised him to not take them. I told him I would have not advised the kid to take steroids if he had asked me
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 09:42:06 AM
Hahahaha...oh yeah he said the guy was taking "these protein shakes and stuff" and that he advised him to not take them. I told him I would have not advised the kid to take steroids if he had asked me

"these" protein shakes lolol
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: gracie bjj on June 11, 2012, 09:47:02 AM
i never told my doc when i was on a cycle, i just would tell him the reason im there. i made that mistake years ago, i had the high blood pressure thing also but it imo it was high cause i gained alot of weight fairly quick. i mentioned that i was using the juice and he started lecturing me about the side effects of them and ever since treated me like i was a junky or something, i just dieted harder(watched my sodium) and my blood pressure was back to normal in about a month and a half.  
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Raymondo on June 11, 2012, 09:49:37 AM
Update:

Went in and met him, he was very friendly from the get-go and told me to sit down. Asked me what was bothering me and I told the story like here.
He said immediately he was taken aback completely by what I said and couldn't understand it. He straight away apologised for what was said and explained under no circumstances does he ever discuss patients with anybody and that was extremely embarrassed and that I should have hit his son a slap and that I had his permission to do such anytime I see him. I said there'd be no need for that and that he should know that this happened.
He must have apologised 10 times to me and said he was a doctor a long time and never had such an incident. He said he was gonna give the son a bollocking but then I started to feel a bit bad and said for him to go easy on the young lad because he was drunk and probably didn't know what he was saying.
I got up to go but he told me sit down again and talked more, he kept me for a good 20 minutes and was so apologetic. I couldn't read it really if he did say anything or not but I decided to let it go. I said that we wouldn't fall out over and it was water under the bridge. He said he'd apologise EVERY time he saw me from now on and I said "no no way, you apologised twice and thrice and more already and let this be the end of it now, no hard feelings and we'll leave it at that".
He even asked could he take my blood pressure but I said we'd leave it for another time and he insisted on doing it and asking me in detail how I was feeling, etc. My blood pressure was improved immensely and he gave me a repeat perscription because I still haven't got the 24-hr monitoring done yet (which I will do in the next few weeks when I get back to Holland).
He couldn't have been any nicer or remorseful. Honestly, I felt bad for even going in about it.
We shook hands again and I left.

I guess he needed to know...all's well that end's well and I'm forgetting about it now

If I was you I'd exploit that guilt of his... get him to sign over prescriptions for pharma quality drugs ;D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 09:53:43 AM
If I was you I'd exploit that guilt of his... get him to sign over prescriptions for pharma quality drugs ;D


ROFL. I nearly took someone's advice that posted earlier. They said about blackmailing for HGH for life. I tried to sneak in a hint by saying "I was thinking about trying that human growth hormone to help combat my blood pressure, it's supposed to be very good" as he was writing out my new prescription for the BP meds...he just said "oh no, stay away from that stuff" and kept writing. I was gonna push it but decided not to...sure pharma grade HGH is too expensive anyhow.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 09:54:56 AM
you should just tell everyone youre natty and train only biceps, you been very strong since school, the first time in a gym you benched 350 for reps, se the pattern? ;D

something else, so you have high blood pressure but chose to stay on steroids nonetheless?

Yes, my BP is fine with only 2.5mg of tritace a day and some cardio. I think if I up my cardio I could come off the meds perhaps. When I come off cycle next I'll monitor the BP without meds for a week and see how it goes.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: gracie bjj on June 11, 2012, 10:00:09 AM
Yes, my BP is fine with only 2.5mg of tritace a day and some cardio. I think if I up my cardio I could come off the meds perhaps. When I come off cycle next I'll monitor the BP without meds for a week and see how it goes.

just keep sodium as low as you possibly can and drink alot of water and your bp will be good, it worked for me when my was high. bp is a weird thing, it can change from day to day
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 10:06:25 AM
just keep sodium as low as you possibly can and drink alot of water and your bp will be good, it worked for me when my was high. bp is a weird thing, it can change from day to day

It sure can. And when I drink heavily on a weekend it's not right for days depending on what I was drinking. It's a very sensitive thing but I certainly feel better when I'm doing more cardio. I think if I did cardio 5x a week for 20 mins I'd have no BP issues even on tren. We'll see how it goes but I'm good for now.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2012, 10:13:04 AM
Update:

Went in and met him, he was very friendly from the get-go and told me to sit down. Asked me what was bothering me and I told the story like here.
He said immediately he was taken aback completely by what I said and couldn't understand it. He straight away apologised for what was said and explained under no circumstances does he ever discuss patients with anybody and that was extremely embarrassed and that I should have hit his son a slap and that I had his permission to do such anytime I see him. I said there'd be no need for that and that he should know that this happened.
He must have apologised 10 times to me and said he was a doctor a long time and never had such an incident. He said he was gonna give the son a bollocking but then I started to feel a bit bad and said for him to go easy on the young lad because he was drunk and probably didn't know what he was saying.
I got up to go but he told me sit down again and talked more, he kept me for a good 20 minutes and was so apologetic. I couldn't read it really if he did say anything or not but I decided to let it go. I said that we wouldn't fall out over and it was water under the bridge. He said he'd apologise EVERY time he saw me from now on and I said "no no way, you apologised twice and thrice and more already and let this be the end of it now, no hard feelings and we'll leave it at that".
He even asked could he take my blood pressure but I said we'd leave it for another time and he insisted on doing it and asking me in detail how I was feeling, etc. My blood pressure was improved immensely and he gave me a repeat perscription because I still haven't got the 24-hr monitoring done yet (which I will do in the next few weeks when I get back to Holland).
He couldn't have been any nicer or remorseful. Honestly, I felt bad for even going in about it.
We shook hands again and I left.

I guess he needed to know...all's well that end's well and I'm forgetting about it now

With all due respect Mr. Irishdave, your doctor just took you for a ride and ass fucked you with absolutely no Vaseline to ease out the pain.

Just because he apologized a million times doesn't mean that he felt any remorse. If anything it just meant that he used it to leverage his ass out of harm's way (possibly a lawsuit).  

The damage has been done.  Your personal patient history has been given out to a random jerk off that can now go forth any time that he is drunk and tell anyone else about it, besides you.  Just because the doctor gave you "permission" to slap his son, doesn't mean that all wrongs have been made right.  Just because he aggressively and profusely apologized, doesn't mean that he undid all of his wrongs.  His continuous apologizing only justifies and proves the fact that he indeed told his son about your medical history.  A doctor that would have never spoken about your history to anyone else would not feel the need to apologize for an act he didn't commit, only to further incriminate himself by default.  (Why keep apologizing for an act you didn't commit, unless you indeed did commit the crime?)  

Don't be so gullible. If anything, that handshake at the very end didn't just solidify the fact that he hustled you into believing and accepting that it was over, it was more of a way of solidifying the fact that your rectum has been thoroughly caressed by the conniving and negligent tactics that coat the tip of his cock.

"1"

P.S. I also understand that HIPAA doesn't apply to the medical professionals of Ireland, so violations in patient-doctor confidentiality agreements are a little difficult to prove and legally correct, but no one should have to deal with such nonsense.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 10:18:22 AM
With all due respect Mr. Irishdave, your doctor just took you for a ride and ass fucked you with absolutely no Vaseline to ease out the pain.

Just because he apologized a million times doesn't mean that he felt any remorse. If anything it just meant that he used it to leverage his ass out of harm's way (possibly a lawsuit).  

The damage has been done.  Your personal patient history has been given out to a random jerk off that can now go forth any time that he is drunk and tell anyone else about it, besides you.  Just because the doctor gave you "permission" to slap his son, doesn't mean that all wrongs have been made right.  Just because he aggressively and profusely apologized, doesn't mean that he undid all of his wrongs.  His continuous apologizing only justifies and proves the fact that he indeed told his son about your medical history.  A doctor that would have never spoken about your history to anyone else would not feel the need to apologize for an act he didn't commit, only to further incriminate himself by default.  (Why keep apologizing for an act you didn't commit, unless you indeed did commit the crime?)  

Don't be so gullible. If anything, that handshake at the very end didn't just solidify the fact that he hustled you into believing and accepting that it was over, it was more of a way of solidifying the fact that your rectum has been thoroughly caressed by the conniving and negligent tactics that coat the tip of his cock.

"1"

P.S. I also understand that HIPAA doesn't apply to the medical professionals of Ireland, so violations in patient-doctor confidentiality agreements are a little difficult to prove and legally correct, but no one should have to deal with such nonsense.


I know what you're saying. If it was in America I'd be sueing his ass right now. But we don't do it like that over here. This isn't America, we go out and get drunk and hit each other a few smacks and the next day we're friends. We don't shoot each other's asses and sue each other at a whim.
I was happy enough to scare him and I don't want money out of it. But yeah, it's likely he did talk about me.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 10:18:56 AM
With all due respect Mr. Irishdave, your doctor just took you for a ride and ass fucked you with absolutely no Vaseline to ease out the pain.

Just because he apologized a million times doesn't mean that he felt any remorse. If anything it just meant that he used it to leverage his ass out of harm's way (possibly a lawsuit).  

The damage has been done.  Your personal patient history has been given out to a random jerk off that can now go forth any time that he is drunk and tell anyone else about it, besides you.  Just because the doctor gave you "permission" to slap his son, doesn't mean that all wrongs have been made right.  Just because he aggressively and profusely apologized, doesn't mean that he undid all of his wrongs.  His continuous apologizing only justifies and proves the fact that he indeed told his son about your medical history.  A doctor that would have never spoken about your history to anyone else would not feel the need to apologize for an act he didn't commit, only to further incriminate himself by default.  (Why keep apologizing for an act you didn't commit, unless you indeed did commit the crime?)  

Don't be so gullible. If anything, that handshake at the very end didn't just solidify the fact that he hustled you into believing and accepting that it was over, it was more of a way of solidifying the fact that your rectum has been thoroughly caressed by the conniving and negligent tactics that coat the tip of his cock.

"1"

P.S. I also understand that HIPAA doesn't apply to the medical professionals of Ireland, so violations in patient-doctor confidentiality agreements are a little difficult to prove and legally correct, but no one should have to deal with such nonsense.

You are not helping ;D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2012, 10:22:57 AM

I know what you're saying. If it was in America I'd be sueing his ass right now. But we don't do it like that over here. This isn't America, we go out and get drunk and hit each other a few smacks and the next day we're friends. We don't shoot each other's asses and sue each other at a whim.
I was happy enough to scare him and I don't want money out of it. But yeah, it's likely he did talk about me.

I understand that things are different in Ireland, so you probably did the best that you could have done.

Just be careful next time you see his son.

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Raymondo on June 11, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
With all due respect Mr. Irishdave, your doctor just took you for a ride and ass fucked you with absolutely no Vaseline to ease out the pain.

Just because he apologized a million times doesn't mean that he felt any remorse. If anything it just meant that he used it to leverage his ass out of harm's way (possibly a lawsuit).  

The damage has been done.  Your personal patient history has been given out to a random jerk off that can now go forth any time that he is drunk and tell anyone else about it, besides you.  Just because the doctor gave you "permission" to slap his son, doesn't mean that all wrongs have been made right.  Just because he aggressively and profusely apologized, doesn't mean that he undid all of his wrongs.  His continuous apologizing only justifies and proves the fact that he indeed told his son about your medical history.  A doctor that would have never spoken about your history to anyone else would not feel the need to apologize for an act he didn't commit, only to further incriminate himself by default.  (Why keep apologizing for an act you didn't commit, unless you indeed did commit the crime?)  

Don't be so gullible. If anything, that handshake at the very end didn't just solidify the fact that he hustled you into believing and accepting that it was over, it was more of a way of solidifying the fact that your rectum has been thoroughly caressed by the conniving and negligent tactics that coat the tip of his cock.

"1"

P.S. I also understand that HIPAA doesn't apply to the medical professionals of Ireland, so violations in patient-doctor confidentiality agreements are a little difficult to prove and legally correct, but no one should have to deal with such nonsense.

The way I read it, he was apologising for his son's idiotic behaviour.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: andreisdaman on June 11, 2012, 10:29:25 AM
Outed. The doctor needs to be more discerning about who he reveals your guys's homosexual relationship to.

 ;D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2012, 10:29:47 AM
The way I read it, he was apologising for his son's idiotic behaviour.

Why would he need to do that?  He has no influence on his "adult" son's idiotic behavior when he is out and about town getting drunk and acting belligerent. What he does have an influence on is what his son is capable of leaking out regarding a patient's medical history.

He was profusely apologizing for his own fuck up that leaked through his son's loose lips, while drunk.

He realized he committed a huge mistake by ever talking about irishdave's medical history over the family dinner table and then further felt like his reputation and career was going to be put to rest due to Irishdave's calling him out on his breach of patient-doctor confidentiality.

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: B_B_C on June 11, 2012, 10:30:23 AM
A young man with high blood pressure  (in need of a 20hour moniter unit even)

Dabbling in recreational drugs (assuming your bodybuilding is recreational)

Out clubbing and enjoying the envy of others (mainly men it seems)

Difficulty with either handling  or disengaging from drunks (you could have walked away or indeed chalange him when he was sober?)

 Inability to properly acertain whither what you heard was what was said (did the drunk actually say his father tell him you had both consulted him and that you were using recreational drugs of any sort? Did you even tell the Doctor that you were using recreational drugs?)  

Paranoia about small town life (Its quiet possible & more common than you perhaps realise to maintain annonominity in a small town but it requires a little effort)

A University education (no professional practice lasts long if it breaches client confidentiality)



So you got your knickers in a twist, accused the doctor of betraying client confidentiality, accused his son of damanging his (the Doctors) reputation, and you probably have increased your blood pressure

perhaps you should consult Dr Uberman the PsycOnanist




Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 10:35:43 AM
A young man with high blood pressure  (in need of a 20hour moniter unit even)

Dabbling in recreational drugs (assuming your bodybuilding is recreational)

Out clubbing and enjoying the envy of others (mainly men it seems)

Difficulty with either handling  or disengaging from drunks (you could have walked away or indeed chalange him when he was sober?)

 Inability to properly acertain whither what you heard was what was said (did the drunk actually say his father tell him you had both consulted him and that you were using recreational drugs of any sort? Did you even tell the Doctor that you were using recreational drugs?)  

Paranoia about small town life (Its quiet possible & more common than you perhaps realise to maintain annonominity in a small town but it requires a little effort)

A University education (no professional practice lasts long if it breaches client confidentiality)



So you got your knickers in a twist, accused the doctor of betraying client confidentiality, accused his son of damanging his (the Doctors) reputation, and you probably have increased your blood pressure

perhaps you should consult Dr Uberman the PsycOnanist








Pffff, gtfo you shit stirrer. I handled it pretty well and I'm chill about it now.

With regards disengaging from the guy...if you had some reading comprehension skills you would have realised he was dragging me by my arm repeatedly and talking into my ear. I entertained him for a second and then when I heard what he was saying I wanted to know more...you're trying to look smart but you're failing..."B_B_C". Your username explains how you are so intelligent.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Raymondo on June 11, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
Why would he need to do that?  He has no influence on his "adult" son's idiotic behavior when he is out and about town getting drunk and acting belligerent.
"1"

Just politeness, I thought.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 10:39:26 AM
And also, you absolute troll, I never ACCUSED him of anything. I also repeatedly said I was not going into it accusing anybody of anything. I was going to tell the story as I told it here and see what he had to say about it. I accused him on here, alright. And I feel that he may be lying but I cannot prove that, can I? I was judging him by his response and by his repeated apologies he may have given out some information alright. But what's done is done and I'll let it go now.
You are a fool.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
Just politeness, I thought.

Maybe he was a nice guy, but based off of irishdave's initial post, during their first encounter in his office, the doctor was rude and just rushing irishdave out.  Now, after the tables have turned, he becomes a highly apologetic guy and even offers to take his blood pressure as a sign of good will.

If I were irishdave, I would seek the care of another doctor.

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 10:41:58 AM
Maybe he was a nice guy, but based off of irishdave's initial post, during their first encounter in his office, the doctor was rude and just rushing irishdave out.  Now, after the tables have turned, he becomes a highly apologetic guy and even offers to take his blood pressure as a sign of good will.

If I were irishdave, I would seek the care of another doctor.

"1"

Or maybe he was just extremely embarrassed by his son? Maybe his son has a big mouth and has let him down before? Who really knows...(well he does but I don't)
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Raymondo on June 11, 2012, 10:42:11 AM
Maybe he was a nice guy, but based off of irishdave's initial post, during their first encounter in his office, the doctor was rude and just rushing irishdave out.  Now, after the tables have turned, he becomes a highly apologetic guy and even offers to take his blood pressure as a sign of good will.

If I were irishdave, I would seek the care of another doctor.

"1"

I would probably do, too.
In my experience, however, the last thing doctors want to speak about at the end of day are hospitals and surgeries and patients.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: B_B_C on June 11, 2012, 10:43:23 AM


. I handled it pretty well and I'm chill about it now.


if you are chill about it then you would not have to reply to my post


Could you have not have challanged the drunk guy the following day when he was sober about what he said?
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
Maybe he was a nice guy, but based off of irishdave's initial post, during their first encounter in his office, the doctor was rude and just rushing irishdave out.  Now, after the tables have turned, he becomes a highly apologetic guy and even offers to take his blood pressure as a sign of good will.

If I were irishdave, I would seek the care of another doctor.

"1"

my guess is, you've never been in an irish village :D sure they have 5 pubs and 3 churches but doctors?
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
if you are chill about it then you would not have to reply to my post


Could you have not have challanged the drunk guy the following day when he was sober about what he said?


OMFG. Did you read ANYTHING?? I never even spoke to the guy before. I said that I didn't know him in the original post. How and why should I go looking for/challenging some guy I have never met before. I've seen him around town a few times but that's it.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 10:46:22 AM
my guess is, you've never been in an irish village :D sure they have 5 pubs and 3 churches but doctors?

My town is big for an Irish town...30,000 people and plenty of doctors around town. I can easily get another one.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2012, 10:47:24 AM
my guess is, you've never been in an irish village :D sure they have 5 pubs and 3 churches but doctors?

No. I have not.

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 11, 2012, 10:50:41 AM
With all due respect Mr. Irishdave, your doctor just took you for a ride and ass fucked you with absolutely no Vaseline to ease out the pain.

Just because he apologized a million times doesn't mean that he felt any remorse. If anything it just meant that he used it to leverage his ass out of harm's way (possibly a lawsuit).  

The damage has been done.  Your personal patient history has been given out to a random jerk off that can now go forth any time that he is drunk and tell anyone else about it, besides you.  Just because the doctor gave you "permission" to slap his son, doesn't mean that all wrongs have been made right.  Just because he aggressively and profusely apologized, doesn't mean that he undid all of his wrongs.  His continuous apologizing only justifies and proves the fact that he indeed told his son about your medical history.  A doctor that would have never spoken about your history to anyone else would not feel the need to apologize for an act he didn't commit, only to further incriminate himself by default.  (Why keep apologizing for an act you didn't commit, unless you indeed did commit the crime?)  

Don't be so gullible. If anything, that handshake at the very end didn't just solidify the fact that he hustled you into believing and accepting that it was over, it was more of a way of solidifying the fact that your rectum has been thoroughly caressed by the conniving and negligent tactics that coat the tip of his cock.

"1"

P.S. I also understand that HIPAA doesn't apply to the medical professionals of Ireland, so violations in patient-doctor confidentiality agreements are a little difficult to prove and legally correct, but no one should have to deal with such nonsense.

What are you so worried about?  Oh my medical history is so sacred ::)  Unless you are hiding the fact you have AIDS what are you worried about?  At 12 my tonsils were taken out.  Oooooohhh, I don't want anyone to know or I had chickenpox at 14, oh no, secrets, must keep secrets. ::)
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: B_B_C on June 11, 2012, 11:01:43 AM
OMFG. Did you read ANYTHING?? I never even spoke to the guy before. I said that I didn't know him in the original post. How and why should I go looking for/challenging some guy I have never met before. I've seen him around town a few times but that's it.

But you knew he was the Doctors son, he told you, so you could have searched him out before going back to his father?
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 11:02:01 AM
OK, I think we're done here. Thanks for the advice, ladies and gentlemen. I'm not going to dwell on it any further.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 11:03:12 AM
But you knew he was the Doctors son, he told you, so you could have searched him out before going back to his father?

I dunno, man. I already said I didn't like his attitude at all. I was angry that his father was probably talking about me at the dinner table so I decided to go directly to the probable source. What would you have done?
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
What are you so worried about?  Oh my medical history is so sacred ::)  Unless you are hiding the fact you have AIDS what are you worried about?  At 12 my tonsils were taken out.  Oooooohhh, I don't want anyone to know or I had chickenpox at 14, oh no, secrets, must keep secrets. ::)

When you go to your doctor, it is understood that your medical history is to be kept between you and your doctor. Just like when you visit your lawyer, there is a level of confidentiality that is understood to be present.  

That said, you seem very adamant about the fact that you have NOTHING to hide, so you should lead by example and post up a picture of both your driver's license and a picture of you holding up a sign with your social security number and with your face clearly shown for us to be able to make out perfectly.  Then, you should also post up all of your medical records in order to show us how a real man wouldn't care about his personal medical history being leaked out.

I care about my privacy when it involves my medical records.  If you don't that's your problem.

Que tu crees Diablo Blanco?  Eres bastante hombre para dejarnos ver tu historia medica o eres solo un cobarde blanco?

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Stark on June 11, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
When you go to your doctor, it is understood that your medical history is to be kept between you and your doctor. Just like when you visit your lawyer, there is a level of confidentiality that is understood to be present.  

That said, you seem very adamant about the fact that you have NOTHING to hide, so you should lead by example and post up a picture of both your driver's license and a picture of you holding up a sign with your social security number and with your face clearly shown for us to be able to make out perfectly.  Then, you should also post up all of your medical records in order to show us how a real man wouldn't care about his personal medical history being leaked out.

I care about my privacy when it involves my medical records.  If you don't that's your problem.

Que tu crees Diablo Blanco?  Eres bastante hombre para dejarnos ver tu historia medica o eres solo un covarde blanco?

"1"


Dave!!!! ffs we know... you've told us about three times now!!
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2012, 11:10:28 AM

Dave!!!! ffs we know... you've told us about three times now!!

Stark, you misquoted, my name isn't Dave.

"1"
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 11, 2012, 11:10:37 AM
I'm 6'5" 240ish...I've dropped about 10lbs lately I'm trying to lean up somewhat. Most people are shocked by me when they see me and in the pub/club I get asked every night about what I eat and if I take steroids, blah blah blah. You know the score, bro.
The son is a cheeky fucker and I don't want to let him get away with this one.
The son hasn't done an oath for secrecy, his dad has....so don't blame the son.  :)
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 11:12:12 AM
The son hasn't done an oath for secrecy, his dad has....so don't blame the son.  :)

The son has a bad attitude to boot, though. He's a smarmy looking guy. But maybe he's OK if I actually knew him

What's your take on the situation? You being a doctor, do you ever talk about your patients? Be honest, now...
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 11, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
The son has a bad attitude to boot, though. He's a smarmy looking guy. But maybe he's OK if I actually knew him

What's your take on the situation? You being a doctor, do you ever talk about your patients? Be honest, now...
I talk about some cases, but I never mention patients names. That's really kind of a professional honour, you just don't do that. Like you never discredit a colleague in front of a patient, even though you think he's a sucks as a doctor. I'mnot kidding about this.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: B_B_C on June 11, 2012, 11:21:39 AM
I dunno, man. I already said I didn't like his attitude at all. I was angry that his father was probably talking about me at the dinner table so I decided to go directly to the probable source. What would you have done?

I would have tried to stand back from the situation, think about what actually happened rather than let my emotions take over. I would also not take such a dilema to a board like this.
The world is full od dickheads and attitude queens, few of us have to answer their wants  
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 11:24:14 AM
I would have tried to stand back from the situation, think about what actually happened rather than let my emotions take over. I would also not take such a dilema to a board like this.
The world is full od dickheads and attitude queens, few of us have to answer their wants  

I'm guilty of being a drama queen myself. I didn't want to discuss this with many people in the real world, I asked advice off a few friends and they said to do exactly what I did. On a board full of juicers, I'm sure there's a few guys here who have had this happen to them. In all honesty, I did handle this very collected and I didn't attack the man and wasn't too hard on him...others would have been far less reasonable and he admitted that himself.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: B_B_C on June 11, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
I didn't want to discuss this with many people in the real world,

that is possibly a greater problem than all the other drama

At this stage its "a he says she says situation" but it not at all clear that the doctor actually discussed or even spoke  to his son about your medical situation, your sporting situation  or even you.

Joining up the dots is not absolute proof

Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 11:53:37 AM
that is possibly a greater problem than all the other drama

At this stage its "a he says she says situation" but it not at all clear that the doctor actually discussed or even spoke  to his son about your medical situation, your sporting situation  or even you.

Joining up the dots is not absolute proof



Yes. That's what I said? I never said I had absolute proof? Are you agreeing or disagreeing? I don't get it, mate. I don't want to continue this with you...it's going nowhere fast
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on June 11, 2012, 11:56:18 AM
you did the right thing, you didnt , as you said, have absolute proof and here in europe you wont be rich in suing your doctor.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 12:48:11 PM
you did the right thing, you didnt , as you said, have absolute proof and here in europe you wont be rich in suing your doctor.

Thanks.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 11, 2012, 12:53:16 PM
You should have anally raped his son in retribution
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 01:08:05 PM
You should have anally raped his son in retribution

looooooooooooool I'll pass...
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: enhancer on June 11, 2012, 01:15:24 PM
What are your thoughts, lads?

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/346/969638-cool_story__bro_super.jpg)
your in the right bud let it rip in the docs ear/never diny u on gear/its obvious.every 1 will think ur a liar.been there and told same story/creatine is so mean ;D
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 11, 2012, 01:16:07 PM
You should have anally raped his son in retribution
Or delivered him tied up to The True Adonis....
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 11, 2012, 02:06:46 PM
You should try to grab a little pocket money out of the Doctor. $1000 cash would probably be an acceptable amount for your pain and suffering. Tell the Doc to cough it up or you 're lawyering up.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 02:29:34 PM
You should try to grab a little pocket money out of the Doctor. $1000 cash would probably be an acceptable amount for your pain and suffering. Tell the Doc to cough it up or you 're lawyering up.

This is NOT America. We don't sue a dude cos he looked at you sideways. OK, what he did was pretty serious but word would get out I shaked him down for a couple of K and I would look like a complete jerk in the long run. Truth be told, a couple of grand wouldn't mean much to me and my father would hear about it and say he would have rather given me the money instead. It looks bad.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Mattyh7688 on June 11, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
Great thread, I had something similar happen to me lol.

About two years ago I got a routine bloodwork check up with my family doctor, I had low thyroid(because of the t3 I was running at the time lol), and the secretary called my parents house. I haven't lived there for years and gave them my cell phone number to contact me. The lady ended up telling my mom all about my blood work, which was ridiculous because  I was 22 at the time. My mom is cool with everything and it wasn't a big deal, it was just the principle of everything. I went in the next day after my mom told me what happened and the lady was fired from her job. I was really pissed and threatened to file a complaint and even had my best friend call his uncle(another doctor) on what to do. The doctor was ignorant as fuck about everything anyways and I needed a new doctor anyways.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Cutlet767 on June 11, 2012, 03:25:46 PM
Well you are lying filt and you deserve what comes to you. stop being a filt liar and maybe things like this wont happen to you.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: B_B_C on June 11, 2012, 03:27:43 PM
Yes. That's what I said? I never said I had absolute proof? Are you agreeing or disagreeing? I don't get it, mate. I don't want to continue this with you...it's going nowhere fast

You brought the discussion to the forum, speed, direction and conclusion are outside your control
I do not know what it is you suggest I Agree or disagree with -
but based on your reactions to the drunk dickhead, I do not think you brought much care, attention and skill to the perceived threat. Driven by (understandable?) emotion you acted as though you had reasonable proof.
You may have left your self open to (very unlikley though) to possible problems of slander (in the 30k town) and libel (here).



Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Natural Man on June 11, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
I made a thread a while back about visiting a new doctor and my BP was high, etc. and I told him the cycle I was on.
Anyhow...
last night I was in a club and this young guy grabs me by the arm and he was TWISTED drunk. I knew him to see only and he says "Dave, what you are on? What are you taking?". I was like "ugh, creatine and protein, bro".
He stares at me...asks me "do you know X McX?"...and stared me in the eyes. The name didn't actually ring a bell for a second and then he goes "you know him, that's my father". It was the doctor's son.
I was like..."oh yeah...but why are you asking me if I know your father?"
He says "oh I saw you going into him the other day". Which was absolute bullshit.
He replies "Don't worry, my father says nothing". I replied "I hope not." and walked away.

My blood started to boil today the more I thought about it. I live abroad but am back in Ireland for a bit of a vacation and the town I live in is small. Now it's obvious to see me that I'm juicing and most people do ask me if I am. I used to admit it but now I just deny, deny, deny.

I've decided I'm going to ring the doctor's office at 9am and tell his secretary to have him call me back when he has free time and I'm going to tell the story and see what he has to say. I am gonna tell him I'm not happy. I always thought patient-doctor confidentiality was upheld but obviously not in this case.

What are your thoughts, lads?

I sincerely hope the story is true and that you ve been exposed, loser.

Lol at posting the whole story on the internet to further make an ass of yourself and proving everyone that even if you need to inject or ingest male hormones to feel like a man, you re still a scared whiny pussy deep inside who gets his panties in a bunch everytime someone point a finger at you saying" this big loser with a small cock is on steroids!", which is the truth.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 03:39:35 PM
Great thread, I had something similar happen to me lol.

About two years ago I got a routine bloodwork check up with my family doctor, I had low thyroid(because of the t3 I was running at the time lol), and the secretary called my parents house. I haven't lived there for years and gave them my cell phone number to contact me. The lady ended up telling my mom all about my blood work, which was ridiculous because  I was 22 at the time. My mom is cool with everything and it wasn't a big deal, it was just the principle of everything. I went in the next day after my mom told me what happened and the lady was fired from her job. I was really pissed and threatened to file a complaint and even had my best friend call his uncle(another doctor) on what to do. The doctor was ignorant as fuck about everything anyways and I needed a new doctor anyways.

That's even worse. Telling your parents your bloodwork. Some people are so stupid and unprofessional. At 22 you're an adult and should be treated as such.
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: irishdave on June 11, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
I sincerely hope the story is true and that you ve been exposed, loser.

Lol at posting the whole story on the internet to further make an ass of yourself and proving everyone that even if you need to inject or ingest male hormones in your body to feel like a man, you re still a scared whiny pussy deep inside who gets his panties in a bunch everytime someone pint a finger at you saying" this big loser with a small cock is on steroids!", which is the truth.

lol. I've an 8 incher little man. Aaaaall my friends know I use and I don't deny if the person asks me properly. You are an idiot
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Natural Man on June 11, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
lol. I've an 8 incher little man. Aaaaall my friends know I use and I don't deny if the person asks me properly. You are an idiot

haha sure you have, pathetic bufoon. Dont you have your daily steroid dose to inject in order to feel like a real man?
Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: Natural Man on June 11, 2012, 06:14:29 PM
Hahahahaha...

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Title: Re: really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 11, 2012, 06:55:34 PM
This is NOT America. We don't sue a dude cos he looked at you sideways. OK, what he did was pretty serious but word would get out I shaked him down for a couple of K and I would look like a complete jerk in the long run. Truth be told, a couple of grand wouldn't mean much to me and my father would hear about it and say he would have rather given me the money instead. It looks bad.


Its not a shake down. Tell the guy your concerns about your mental state over what he did to you. Ask him what he can do to make it better. And why in the world would a doctor who broke a code tell your father about it?