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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Mattyh7688 on September 20, 2012, 10:13:36 AM
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http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4767-jose-raymond-up-close-and-personal-part-one.html
Has bank take his house because he tried to buy a $400k house he obviously could not, loses girlfriend, lives on top of a buddy's garage, no internet/tv...
christ
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Well, he could always go the Steve Namat route.
What?
I'm talking about wrestling.
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also i think he said he put $150,000 in the house he lost too
but hey he is part of Flag or Snails
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http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4767-jose-raymond-up-close-and-personal-part-one.html
Has bank take his house because he tried to buy a $400k house he obviously could not, loses girlfriend, lives on top of a buddy's garage, no internet/tv...
christ
How old was this interview?
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How old was this interview?
4 weeks out from the Olympia.. right after he trained with Evan
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How old was this interview?
last night
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i bet Jose cries himself to sleep every night on the carpet floor
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old as dirt
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Toni Perdikakis
the whore who ruined his life
(http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/361143802.jpg)
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Toni Perdikakis
the whore who ruined his life
Jose, or Pepito, lacked the hermeneutic talent to avoid personal and financial ruination. He should have seen that her name said it all: a chick named perdi kakis will cause you to 'lose your shit!'
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Should come live with Bay and have him support Jose since "bay likey!"
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Jose, or Pepito, lacked the hermeneutic talent to avoid personal and financial ruination. He should have seen that her name said it all: a chick named perdi kakis will cause you to 'lose your shit!'
LOL!
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Maybe he should have live within his means.
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Should start hustlin some tshirts for horsegums
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Should start hustlin some tshirts for horsegums
dirty thongs, aka nasser style
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FONZIE
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Livin the dream.
And still has the money to shoot 2000 $ worth of gear into his butt every month. How the hell is that working? ???
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Trying to live like Jay and Phil, when he should have living like the guy who washes their cars.
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Trying to live like Jay and Phil, when he should have living like the guy who washes their cars.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-flxAJT8gl-0/T2HGCb_Jy2I/AAAAAAAAEjQ/uTQdVgrShBM/s1600/tumblr_m0uupiOuKD1qzmz70.gif)
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Jose is part of the 99%
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Plenty of ppl in a lot worse situation, but just looking at that whores face I can't imagine this fella being completely "allright" in the head.
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he has no internet.. :o
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i used to think Jose Raymond was THE COACH
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Jose is a man with a great credit score
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He will prob win,after a break up like that it's easy to diet,good luck to him. His ex is beat he will be better w/o her, classic" the right one will make u,the wrong one will break u"...
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Livin the dream.
And still has the money to shoot 2000 $ worth of gear into his butt every month. How the hell is that working? ???
She didn't care about that as long as he had another 2k for the mortgage. It was when the mortgage $ was going into his butt :D
This is why bodybuilding is great if it's not 1st in your life. If you invest in a education, job, bank account, relationships, ect. Its still there when your not putting all your time/$ in it. As soon as you quit doing the bodybuilding things to look like that your body does not look the same...
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Should come live with Bay and have him support Jose since "bay likey!"
X2
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She didn't care about that as long as he had another 2k for the mortgage. It was when the mortgage $ was going into his butt :D
This is why bodybuilding is great if it's not 1st in your life. If you invest in a education, job, bank account, relationships, ect. Its still there when your not putting all your time/$ in it. As soon as you quit doing the bodybuilding things to look like that your body does not look the same...
I dont know what his montly salary from MHP is, but gear and GH is pretty cheap. The most expensive thing in bbing is the food. I mean, you can get a bottle of prop for $20, tren for $40 and a kit for $120
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He is lucky he has his Sugar Daddy the Doctor
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Mr O? I wish him luck, but that's going to be a tough one. I hope he has a plan B.
Every man has had some bitch in their life that's fucked them over in some way or another. Never live with, have kids with or marry them. The financial ramifications are just not worth it.
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He is lucky he has his Sugar Daddy
Yes , but Dana Linn Bailey cant possible keep supporting her husband Rob and her Jose forever with her Tshirt /butcher block company , she will eventually have to drop one of her sponsored dudes
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I dont know what his montly salary from MHP is, but gear and GH is pretty cheap. The most expensive thing in bbing is the food. I mean, you can get a bottle of prop for $20, tren for $40 and a kit for $120
Even with your rock bottom price example,if you did all that 2.5 times a week you'd be right under 2k before you eat
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I remember hearing some national and pro competitors don't pay for gear, probably g4p in exchange or sponsorship
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Believe me, he has internet
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Isn't he a fireman in Dallas?
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Jose......
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He said it, "I have been doing this for twenty years" and I have nothing to show for it. What an eye opener...
Not much need for midgets these days. Hope your sphincter stay tight my friend...doc takes care of me...oh boy!
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also i think he said he put $150,000 in the house he lost too
but hey he is part of Flag or Snails
so at one point he was doing well enough to save up $150000.00. and now he is the most popular he has ever been and can't pay a mortgage??
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Believe me, he has internet
Why not tether from his cell, or have his friend/landlord give him the pass word to the homes wifi?
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Should come live with Bay and have him support Jose since "bay likey!"
Live with Bay? Do you live with him?
When you say "come live with" that alludes that you live with Bay and he takes care of you, and would also take care of this Jose fellow.
I for instance, would say, "He should GO live with Bay." Since you know... I don't live with him.
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And everyone was clowning Evan Centaponi about him living at his parents house at 30yr old, dude probably saved all his pennies and bought his house cash or atleast but a huge downpayment on it
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Kind of makes you realize why jay cutler is putting his name on every single product he could come across. Anyway to make a buck. Better than losing your house.
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Kind of makes you realize why jay cutler is putting his name on every single product he could come across. Anyway to make a buck. Better than losing your house.
well, when third place in a pro show is worth $3000 pretax, pretty tough life.
some golfer is going to make $11 500 000.00 this weekend.
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well, when third place in a pro show is worth $3000 pretax, pretty tough life.
some golfer is going to make $11 500 000.00 this weekend.
Yeah, same with tennis pros. Make a shit load of money per game.
Jose Raymond should have became a golfer.
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Live with Bay? Do you live with him?
When you say "come live with" that alludes that you live with Bay and he takes care of you, and would also take care of this Jose fellow.
I for instance, would say, "He should GO live with Bay." Since you know... I don't live with him.
Haha u r right! I do know bay likey jose so maybe he could help him out.
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He said it, "I have been doing this for twenty years" and I have nothing to show for it. What an eye opener...
Not much need for midgets these days. Hope your sphincter stay tight my friend...doc takes care of me...oh boy!
I like Jose and have been a fan of him , since his days as an NPC national level contest winner.
Let's all get real and put some things in perspective on his situation.
1. Plenty of people have had to short sell or been forclosed on when it came to their house.
Like plenty of others , he was in a home that he really couldn't afford on the avg month.
For the past few years, being forclosed on for an expnesive mortgage is nothing that new or rare.
2. Even under the best circumstances, break ups can happen in any serious relationship.
* I have been divorced 3x but refused to give up and will marry #4, next month.
3. Bodybuilding was never meant to be a viable, lucrative career path for many pros.
Only a handful of top pros ever make a decent living off it.
A rare few , like Bob Chick find a unique niche within bodybuilding and do well.
4. I have seen plenty of folks pursue careers on everything from acting to personal training and struggle to get by.
FYI, education and degrees alone are no gurantee for success. You need a viable career path and ability to work in your field.
Teaching chemsitry and physics isn't that exciting a career LOL. But I knew I could be decent at it and make a , secure living with it.
FYI, Issac Newton and Einstein never made a lot of $$, but their ideas changed the world we live in.
5. Jose pursued his dream of being a pro bodybuilder. He is now getting ready to be a top contender for the 212 Olympia showdown.
He is living a spartan lifestyle without a lot of creature comforts and nice things, but so what?
Monks live a spartan , celebit lifestyle and gave up all worldly things for their spirtual journey.
Henry David Thoreau wrote a classic novel about his meager, basic lifestyle near Walden Pond.
He wanted to live a deliberate lifestyle , free from the normal constraints and trappings.
Jose Raymnd is living like a pure bodybuilding in hot pursuit of his biggest title to date.
I admire him for that dedication but understand the sacrifice.
All this pursuit of your dream is fine and dandy, until a personal disaster happens.
For example, I thank GOD, I had a good job with excellent health Ins , when I tore my achilles tendon.
I'm also greatful I had a nice home and loving fiance to go to after the surgery , who was there with me
during my recovery on crutches.
I wish Jose well and will cheer him at the Olympia as a fan. I will be happy for him if he does well in the 212 Olympia showdown.
As for me I admire but don't envy the avg pro. I traded that dream for one of personal security and very different lifestyle, many years ago.
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I have an idea. Why doesn't he get a job? Like the rest of humanity. You know, the kind of thing you go to, 9 to 5, that maybe you don't always like, but sometimes you do, that gives you some money. And there's a boss, and you do what they say, and you work hard, and you get a paycheck that pays bills.
I refuse to believe that bodybuilding is so fucking hard that you can't hold down a 9 to 5 job.
Ever heard of Ken Brown? Won the USAs and turned pro. All while working a 10hour shift in a factory starting at 6 am. He'd hit the gym at 3 am, go to work, come home, raise his family, and still did shows. Didn't hear about him losing his house.
How about Ronnie? He had a house, and paid his bills, and even when he was winning shows, still held down a full time job as a cop.
How about Porter Cottrell? Won a bunch of shows, and still had a career as a firefighter.
So you can be a pro, even a good one, and hold down a job.
So, you know what, it is possible to hold down a job. He doesn't need to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. Get a job with the city digging ditches. Get a job in an old age home cleaning bedpans. Christ, just be a personal trainer.
Nope, instead, he's a bum now. Welched on his debts. And I'm supposed to feel pity? Be a man, and get a job. It's 10 pm, and I'm still working. Because I have a family, and I care, and it's the right thing to do. Don't see me launching a woe-is-me youtube video about my lot.
I have zero empathy. And a mild disdain.
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If you're divorced 3X and more you have some serious issues...
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His brother Tito seems to be doing good
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We are all bodybuilders on this site, Jose is a Professional bodybuilder. That is the difference...I spent over twenty years at my profession and retired. I workout everyday and work because I like to keep busy. I expect a professional bodybuilder to make good decisions and to be able to support himself. The body wont do him any good away from the gym, he is not an Arnold or Louie. When he finally awakens from the dream, he may find himself living in the back of a van talking about the good ole days...that is the problem. Weight training is progressive, so is life.
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I have an idea. Why doesn't he get a job? Like the rest of humanity. You know, the kind of thing you go to, 9 to 5, that maybe you don't always like, but sometimes you do, that gives you some money. And there's a boss, and you do what they say, and you work hard, and you get a paycheck that pays bills.
I refuse to believe that bodybuilding is so fucking hard that you can't hold down a 9 to 5 job.
Ever heard of Ken Brown? Won the USAs and turned pro. All while working a 10hour shift in a factory starting at 6 am. He'd hit the gym at 3 am, go to work, come home, raise his family, and still did shows. Didn't hear about him losing his house.
How about Ronnie? He had a house, and paid his bills, and even when he was winning shows, still held down a full time job as a cop.
How about Porter Cottrell? Won a bunch of shows, and still had a career as a firefighter.
So you can be a pro, even a good one, and hold down a job.
So, you know what, it is possible to hold down a job. He doesn't need to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. Get a job with the city digging ditches. Get a job in an old age home cleaning bedpans. Christ, just be a personal trainer.
Nope, instead, he's a bum now. Welched on his debts. And I'm supposed to feel pity? Be a man, and get a job. It's 10 pm, and I'm still working. Because I have a family, and I care, and it's the right thing to do. Don't see me launching a woe-is-me youtube video about my lot.
I have zero empathy. And a mild disdain.
I agree and am glad you pointed out the obvious.
For me, a stable career with a regular paycheck and bennefits was my first priority.
However a lot of talented athletes put much effort into anything else.
One of the worst things to happen to bodybuilding was the end of the AAU Mr America .
This was replaced by NPC "pro qualifier" national events.
While the NPC national shows are great events, the main goal now is getting that pro card and starting your BB career.
When I started , back in the 70's , winning your state meet was the big goal for most guys along with going for Mr America .
Sure, a few guys went to Venice Beach and lived in a van so they could just train , but not that many .
Now , every musclehead and bikini bimbo is banking on the idea of an IFBB pro career.
Once they obtain a national win they whine of they don't get a big contract .
Sure it is tough to fit in training and diet when you work full time
But for most of working slobs that is exactly what we do.
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Maybe u should stop asking your wives to fart in your mouth Howard , not many woman find it attractive
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We are all bodybuilders on this site, Jose is a Professional bodybuilder. That is the difference...I spent over twenty years at my profession and retired. I workout everyday and work because I like to keep busy. I expect a professional bodybuilder to make good decisions and to be able to support himself. The body wont do him any good away from the gym, he is not an Arnold or Louie. When he finally awakens from the dream, he may find himself living in the back of a van talking about the good ole days...that is the problem. Weight training is progressive, so is life.
Just like the movie with Mickey Rourke " The Wrestler"
Ironic how Arnold is the icon of bodybuilding and yet so few follow his example of how to work hard OUTSIDE the gym to make it.
I worked hard at my edcuation and career and in building a new relationship with a wonderful woman.
If you only work at bodybuilding, when you hang up your truks that's all you have .
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Maybe u should stop asking your wives to fart in your mouth Howard , not many woman find it attractive
Hmmm, good tip , thanks!
I guess my fart breath puts a damper on their desire to kiss me 'eh?
Maybe I'll keep this one drugged and locked in the basement? :o
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Haha u r right! I do know bay likey jose so maybe he could help him out.
Whatever it takes!
I like Jose and have been a fan of him , since his days as an NPC national level contest winner.
Let's all get real and put some things in perspective on his situation.
2. Even under the best circumstances, break ups can happen in any serious relationship.
* I have been divorced 3x but refused to give up and will marry #4, next month.
The best perspective I can give you is that you are like Joe... Fucking INSANE...
Married 4 fucking times?!?!
CRAZY talk.
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I love his line, "I chose this lifestyle"
haha sure! ::) ::)
Or "Deenutz, did you do what I did?"
Which is what? lose your home and your life? :-\ :-\
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Should come live with Bay and have him support Jose since "bay likey!"
True. :D
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I have an idea. Why doesn't he get a job? Like the rest of humanity. You know, the kind of thing you go to, 9 to 5, that maybe you don't always like, but sometimes you do, that gives you some money. And there's a boss, and you do what they say, and you work hard, and you get a paycheck that pays bills.
I refuse to believe that bodybuilding is so fucking hard that you can't hold down a 9 to 5 job.
Ever heard of Ken Brown? Won the USAs and turned pro. All while working a 10hour shift in a factory starting at 6 am. He'd hit the gym at 3 am, go to work, come home, raise his family, and still did shows. Didn't hear about him losing his house.
How about Ronnie? He had a house, and paid his bills, and even when he was winning shows, still held down a full time job as a cop.
How about Porter Cottrell? Won a bunch of shows, and still had a career as a firefighter.
So you can be a pro, even a good one, and hold down a job.
So, you know what, it is possible to hold down a job. He doesn't need to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. Get a job with the city digging ditches. Get a job in an old age home cleaning bedpans. Christ, just be a personal trainer.
Nope, instead, he's a bum now. Welched on his debts. And I'm supposed to feel pity? Be a man, and get a job. It's 10 pm, and I'm still working. Because I have a family, and I care, and it's the right thing to do. Don't see me launching a woe-is-me youtube video about my lot.
I have zero empathy. And a mild disdain.
Tell it like it is, SNX. I should imagine that a lot of the so-called "pros" were attracted to competitive bodybuilding, and were/are so willing to take boatloads of drugs, because of the slacker lifestyle. Then, again, if this is true, a lot of "pros" aren't the kinds of people that would light the private or public sector on fire with their intelligence, imagination, resilience, and talent (whoring and G4P doesn't count). Be a man, indeed! Good post!
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You crazy bastard howard!
You got any pics of when u competed that u can post??
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LOL @ "buying a 400k house"...
bodybuilding is a hobby, not a profession and should remain as is. 400k is peanuts these days, maybe not for 18-22 $/hourers on here but I cannot imagine anyone making under 80-100k in their 30's. if not failed massively and should reconsider what you're doing with your life.
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LOL @ "buying a 400k house"...
bodybuilding is a hobby, not a profession and should remain as is. 400k is peanuts these days, maybe not for 18-22 $/hourers on here but I cannot imagine anyone making under 80-100k in their 30's. if not failed massively and should reconsider that you're doing with your life.
this 1000x this.
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That Namat guys has a baby penis
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also i think he said he put $150,000 in the house he lost too
but hey he is part of Flag or Snails
Ya isn't he banging the Flagfails wife?
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I have an idea. Why doesn't he get a job? Like the rest of humanity. You know, the kind of thing you go to, 9 to 5, that maybe you don't always like, but sometimes you do, that gives you some money. And there's a boss, and you do what they say, and you work hard, and you get a paycheck that pays bills.
I refuse to believe that bodybuilding is so fucking hard that you can't hold down a 9 to 5 job.
Ever heard of Ken Brown? Won the USAs and turned pro. All while working a 10hour shift in a factory starting at 6 am. He'd hit the gym at 3 am, go to work, come home, raise his family, and still did shows. Didn't hear about him losing his house.
How about Ronnie? He had a house, and paid his bills, and even when he was winning shows, still held down a full time job as a cop.
How about Porter Cottrell? Won a bunch of shows, and still had a career as a firefighter.
So you can be a pro, even a good one, and hold down a job.
So, you know what, it is possible to hold down a job. He doesn't need to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. Get a job with the city digging ditches. Get a job in an old age home cleaning bedpans. Christ, just be a personal trainer.
Nope, instead, he's a bum now. Welched on his debts. And I'm supposed to feel pity? Be a man, and get a job. It's 10 pm, and I'm still working. Because I have a family, and I care, and it's the right thing to do. Don't see me launching a woe-is-me youtube video about my lot.
I have zero empathy. And a mild disdain.
Most of those guys are mentally ill. They have to have their own business and not deal with too many people outside of bodybuilding. You ever see one of these mofo's out of the gym? They can't walk 20 feet without looking for their own reflection somewhere. This includes shadows on the street. It's as if they've been cursed and can't get out of their own skin.
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Here is Jose posing in his
home efficiency apartment
(http://www.mightymike.tv/images/mmbodybuilderpic2.jpg)
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That Namat guys has a baby penis
lol. Is Namat the guy who moved to Florida and made a killing doing Schmo Squatting on Friday and Saturday nights all the while pretending to be some kind of wrestler?
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Here is Jose posing in his home efficiency apartment
(http://www.mightymike.tv/images/mmbodybuilderpic2.jpg)
Thats not Lee Priest!!!
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http://www.boyztube.com/gay-videos/watch/190870-bodybuilder_webcam_jo_steve_namat.html
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You crazy bastard howard!
You got any pics of when u competed that u can post??
Here ya go.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=441530.0;attach=484976;image)
that's pretty impressive
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Here ya go.
Damn howard looks solid in the pornstach pic
Thanks booty
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=441530.0;attach=484976;image)
that's pretty impressive
Good for Howard! Looks like a Mentzer brother.
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Most of those guys are mentally ill.They have to have their own business and not deal with too many people outside of bodybuilding. You ever see one of these mofo's out of the gym? They can't walk 20 feet without looking for their own reflection somewhere. This includes shadows on the street. It's as if they've been cursed and can't get out of their own skin.
i consider pro bodybuilders real life heroes.any one can hit with money problem once a while no big deal.every thing will be left behind after u died does not mean jack.i just admire the fact that these guys can walk into any gym around the world and people talk to them like one of their own irrespective of race and ethnicity or even just walk around in any country of the world wearing sleeveless and getting all the attention.can any money replace it.send ur biggest star like justin beiber alone in some African country and see how he get his butt fucked.
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i consider pro bodybuilders real life heroes.any one can hit with money problem once a while no big deal.every thing will be left behind after u died does not mean jack.i just admire the fact that these guys can walk into any gym around the world and people talk to them like one of their own irrespective of race and ethnicity or even just walk around in any country of the world wearing sleeveless and getting all the attention.can any money replace it.send ur biggest star like justin beiber alone in some African country and see how he get his butt fucked.
Pro bodybuilders are heroes?
You have a different definition of hero than the rest of us.
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Good for Howard! Looks like a Mentzer brother: The Last of the Mentzerhicans.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=441530.0;attach=484976;image)
I think Howard look more like Steve Michalik !
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If Flex is off, Jose will win the 212.
He is set up for a nice payday next week.
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If Flex is off, Jose will win the 212.
He is set up for a nice payday next week.
pfew that 10 grand will really help him!!!!!
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LOL @ "buying a 400k house"...
bodybuilding is a hobby, not a profession and should remain as is. 400k is peanuts these days, maybe not for 18-22 $/hourers on here but I cannot imagine anyone making under 80-100k in their 30's. if not failed massively and should reconsider what you're doing with your life.
bitch, 400k is peanuts here in south california, and that's what you get for 400k, a peanut house. it's too bad you didn't get an IT/CS job in mississippi. i bet you wouldn't be posting retarded shit than.
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pfew that 10 grand will really help him!!!!!
Lol
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bitch, 400k is peanuts here in south california, and that's what you get for 400k, a peanut house. it's too bad you didn't get an IT/CS job in mississippi. i bet you wouldn't be posting retarded shit than.
You live in california now? Can you afford it? Compton? Living the dream
400k gets u shit in LA, start around 500k+ for anything remotely decent
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pfew that 10 grand will really help him!!!!!
Winner gets 20K this year. Not sure if MHP matches prize money but im sure he gets a bonus if he places
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You live in california now? Can you afford it? Compton? Living the dream
San Diego along with FatAlice, whore! Rest assured I'm not in the cheapest part of town.
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San Diego along with FatAlice, whore! Rest assured I'm not in the cheapest part of town.
La jolla? Haha maybe u two should get together for lunch at a sushi place, take pics, maybe have Nasser and look a like Jason Biggs and post it here
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Winner gets 20K this year. Not sure if MHP matches prize money but im sure he gets a bonus if he places
$40,000 a year before taxes.. shit man.. better not spend all that money on coke, crystal, bling, and high quality hookers.
Hey just win the Mr. Midget olympia 5 times and maybe he can get his house back.
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You live in california now? Can you afford it? Compton? Living the dream
400k gets u shit in LA, start around 500k+ for anything remotely decent
400k in my area. ::)
sick joke!
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400k in my area. ::)
sick joke!
No way that house is 400K????????
$400K in Tampa/Clearwater gets you a NICE house!
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No way that house is 400K????????
$400K in Tampa/Clearwater gets you a NICE house!
You gotta pay when you want to ball with FatAlice and Nasser.
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400k in my area. ::)
sick joke!
What does the inside and backyard look like tho? could be pimped
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i used to think Jose Raymond was THE COACH
He's coachs son
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What does the inside and backyard look like tho? could be pimped
Insides are usually pimped, but the backyards look like an old dusty western. But we're still talking 1300-1700 sq ft.
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400k in my area. ::)
sick joke!
You just proved what I was talking about, now use that 400k in other states... Like TX
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Just had a Little Fly By at the house about an hour ago
Shuttle Endeavour bitchez
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If you're divorced 3X and more you have some serious issues...
Ok so maybe I do...but at least I'm not out trying rape farm animals.
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Ok so maybe I do...but at least I'm not out trying rape farm animals.
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/09/florida_man_arrested_for_besti.php (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/09/florida_man_arrested_for_besti.php)
(http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/120918104433_Carlos-Romero1-600x350.jpg)
Apparently, when you're arrested for jacking off with a donkey, you want to do your best to make sure the case gets as much publicity as possible. So Carlos Romero decided to give a jailhouse interview and has apparently left several comments across the web defending his love for his donkey.
Romero wants his donkey back and claims that sex and emotional intimacy with animals is preferable because humans are just horrible.
As we noted yesterday, Romero was arrested up in Marion County over the weekend after he was found fingering his pet donkey and rubbing his nether regions up against it while pleasuring himself. At the time of his arrest Romero said that Florida was "backwards" for looking down on zoophilia.
Well, Romero isn't done talking.
From Ocala.com:
He said he has always felt an attraction toward animals, especially horses, because people have been known to "stab you in the back, give you diseases, lie to you" and are "promiscuous." Animals, he said, "are usually there for you" and "do not seek other pleasures." Their feelings are "100 percent honest," he added.
Uh, yes, sometimes humans are horrible to each other. Welcome to Life 101.
But, you know, anytime I'm going through a breakup or something I don't think to myself, "You know what, maybe I should just fuck a horse." Nope. Doesn't cross my mind. Usually I think, "You know what, maybe I should drink half this bottle of vodka." God gave us alcohol to deal with people lying to you. Not animal sex.
Romero, 31, admitted that he's been having sex with horses since he was 18, but said he hasn't fully consummated his relationship with the donkey yet "because she's blooming into maturity."
Romero is also pissed because his donkey has since been taken away from him.
"I want my donkey back. There's got to be due process here. I paid $500 for her," he told a judge on Tuesday morning.
Marion County officials are petitioning the court for custody of the animal, and plan to put it up for adoption.
Romero (or at least someone using his name) has also been making several comments on a Huffington Post story about his arrest.
"Have you ever seen a jack donkey? even the miniatures would put the most well hung pornstar to shame," he wrote in one comment.
"The issue at hand will not be having sex with animals, it will be bedroom privacy. If I get convicted then all Floridians expectation of privacy will be effectively nullified," he wrote in another.
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that's pretty impressive
Thanks and that was 10 months off, 100% drug free.
To be candid, I had used small amounts of basic contest prep drugs like Winnie V and decca
from 1983-1986, the pic is from 1987 at the Jr USA
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Jose, or Pepito, lacked the hermeneutic talent to avoid personal and financial ruination. He should have seen that her name said it all: a chick named perdi kakis will cause you to 'lose your shit!'
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great pic howie,,,
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Pro bodybuilders are heroes?
You have a different definition of hero than the rest of us.
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thats the way i feel about it and that is why i follow bodybuilding and take time to watch contests and post in here.u can always disagree with argument.
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thats the way i feel about it and that is why i follow bodybuilding and take time to watch contests and post in here.u can always disagree with argument.
I certainly do...
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Thanks and that was 10 months off, 100% drug free.
To be candid, I had used small amounts of basic contest prep drugs like Winnie V and decca
from 1983-1986, the pic is from 1987 at the Jr USA
you look awesome H. but can you now post some shots while you were on juice? if you were that great clean, you must have been 20 lbs. heavier and leaner when you were on.
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you look awesome H. but can you now post some shots while you were on juice? if you were that great clean, you must have been 20 lbs. heavier and leaner when you were on.
Sad thing is dollars to donuts he wasn't clean there
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you look awesome H. but can you now post some shots while you were on juice? if you were that great clean, you must have been 20 lbs. heavier and leaner when you were on.
That would have been true if I had used the typical bodybuilding amounts and I didn't.
I used various steroids one at a time, from 1983-86.
For example, I would use 1 shot of decca per week for the last 8 weeks before and show.
That helped me stay on course when in pre contest mode.
I used 2- shots per week of Winsitrol V ( 3ml per shot). I found this helped get me cut faster but added no mass.
I never combined aka stacked drugs and took the "minimum doseage" similar to my HRT Androgel, I now use.
I am pretty sensible guy and never got any side effects but I never pushed the envelope.
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That would have been true if I had used the typical bodybuilding amounts and I didn't.
I used various steroids one at a time, from 1983-86.
For example, I would use 1 shot of decca per week for the last 8 weeks before and show.
That helped me stay on course when in pre contest mode.
I used 2- shots per week of Winsitrol V ( 3ml per shot). I found this helped get me cut faster but added no mass.
I never combined aka stacked drugs and took the "minimum doseage" similar to my HRT Androgel, I now use.
I am pretty sensible guy and never got any side effects but I never pushed the envelope.
Great, so post a picture of when you were "on" so it can be compared to the picture of you 10months clean you posted above.
Should be quite a difference.
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Thanks and that was 10 months off, 100% drug free.
To be candid, I had used small amounts of basic contest prep drugs like Winnie V and decca
from 1983-1986, the pic is from 1987 at the Jr USA
Howard you look very good there, but you were not off for 10 months so why lie? Your size and development pretty much matches the other guys who are on stage with you. Was that the Jr's? So you dabbled with steroids never really got bigger from their use then entered the biggest show of you life clean?
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Im with you mate, hes bullshitting, why take something then decide to compete naturally in a non tested show?
He should be able to post a photo of him looking much improved if he was really clean in the photo hes posted.
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Jose and that Doctor have sex
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Jose and that Doctor have sex
No fair! :-[
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No fair! :-[
You like his bro Tito too?
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You looked great Howard - props!
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Howard you look very good there, but you were not off for 10 months so why lie? Your size and development pretty much matches the other guys who are on stage with you. Was that the Jr's? So you dabbled with steroids never really got bigger from their use then entered the biggest show of you life clean?
I have always been 100% candid and honest about my own drug use in BB .
In AUG of 1986, I decided to stop any and all steroid use for a variety of personal reasons.
The main reason was a need to save money to go back to school and complete my degree , which I did.
The Jr USA was held in Raliegh, NC in late April of 1987. This was about 70 miles from where I lived.
I already had plans to move to KY and go back to school that AUG, so I decided to compete once more .
Many of my gym buds were going to compete or go watch so I wanted to be part of it.
I would not had competed if the contest required me to spend money and travel.
I simply wanted to compete at a national level show and see how I matched up , on my own terms.
I weighed in at 195.5 lbs and looked pretty good. C'mon , I looked decent but I wasn't that impressive.
I'll take it as compliment for those that think I had to juice to achieve the look I had in my posted pics.
Unlike a lot of guys who compete, I did for mostly personal reasons.
I quickly lost any desire to go pro or go for bodybuilding, no holds barred.
I'm being as honest and open as I can be, if some choose to think it "BS", then, so be it.
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Im with you mate, hes bullshitting, why take something then decide to compete naturally in a non tested show?
He should be able to post a photo of him looking much improved if he was really clean in the photo hes posted.
Once again, I was off on AUG 1986 and competed in late April of 1987 ( the pics w red trunks).
I won't try to change your ind since you are already convinced I was juiced.
Instead I will thank you for saying I look too good to be off the juice in my posted pic.
Lastly, I was only 196 at 5'10", hardly a massive freak ya know ;)
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i consider pro bodybuilders real life heroes.any one can hit with money problem once a while no big deal.every thing will be left behind after u died does not mean jack.i just admire the fact that these guys can walk into any gym around the world and people talk to them like one of their own irrespective of race and ethnicity or even just walk around in any country of the world wearing sleeveless and getting all the attention.can any money replace it.send ur biggest star like justin beiber alone in some African country and see how he get his butt fucked.
If I thought any drug addict pro bodybuilder was my hero on say a Saturday, I'd be hanging from a noose by Sunday...
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If I thought any drug addict pro bodybuilder was my hero on say a Saturday, I'd be hanging from a noose by Sunday...
gud for u mate.keep posting on bodybuilding web site 24/7 without any emotional attachment.oh sorry u have emotional attachment towards bodybuilders just negative one.this drug talk is high school kid talk.r u in high school.
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LOL @ "buying a 400k house"...
bodybuilding is a hobby, not a profession and should remain as is. 400k is peanuts these days, maybe not for 18-22 $/hourers on here but I cannot imagine anyone making under 80-100k in their 30's. if not failed massively and should reconsider what you're doing with your life.
I owe 25K on my 400K house, not that hard to have and keep a job and pay a mortgage.
(Tough for those who lose jobs obviously).
Pro bodybuiders = douch bags...
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I like Jose and have been a fan of him , since his days as an NPC national level contest winner.
Let's all get real and put some things in perspective on his situation.
1. Plenty of people have had to short sell or been forclosed on when it came to their house.
Like plenty of others , he was in a home that he really couldn't afford on the avg month.
For the past few years, being forclosed on for an expnesive mortgage is nothing that new or rare.
2. Even under the best circumstances, break ups can happen in any serious relationship.
* I have been divorced 3x but refused to give up and will marry #4, next month.
3. Bodybuilding was never meant to be a viable, lucrative career path for many pros.
Only a handful of top pros ever make a decent living off it.
A rare few , like Bob Chick find a unique niche within bodybuilding and do well.
4. I have seen plenty of folks pursue careers on everything from acting to personal training and struggle to get by.
FYI, education and degrees alone are no gurantee for success. You need a viable career path and ability to work in your field.
Teaching chemsitry and physics isn't that exciting a career LOL. But I knew I could be decent at it and make a , secure living with it.
FYI, Issac Newton and Einstein never made a lot of $$, but their ideas changed the world we live in.
5. Jose pursued his dream of being a pro bodybuilder. He is now getting ready to be a top contender for the 212 Olympia showdown.
He is living a spartan lifestyle without a lot of creature comforts and nice things, but so what?
Monks live a spartan , celebit lifestyle and gave up all worldly things for their spirtual journey.
Henry David Thoreau wrote a classic novel about his meager, basic lifestyle near Walden Pond.
He wanted to live a deliberate lifestyle , free from the normal constraints and trappings.
Jose Raymnd is living like a pure bodybuilding in hot pursuit of his biggest title to date.
I admire him for that dedication but understand the sacrifice.
All this pursuit of your dream is fine and dandy, until a personal disaster happens.
For example, I thank GOD, I had a good job with excellent health Ins , when I tore my achilles tendon.
I'm also greatful I had a nice home and loving fiance to go to after the surgery , who was there with me
during my recovery on crutches.
I wish Jose well and will cheer him at the Olympia as a fan. I will be happy for him if he does well in the 212 Olympia showdown.
As for me I admire but don't envy the avg pro. I traded that dream for one of personal security and very different lifestyle, many years ago.
well written. why do be people care if he dont have a ferrari and a big ass house, if this is what he want to do with his life then its up to him. He seems to enjoy this lifestyle so more power to him
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Once again, I was off on AUG 1986 and competed in late April of 1987 ( the pics w red trunks).
I won't try to change your ind since you are already convinced I was juiced.
Instead I will thank you for saying I look too good to be off the juice in my posted pic.
Lastly, I was only 196 at 5'10", hardly a massive freak ya know
Saying it twice still doesn't make it any more believable.
Either show a photo of you when on a cycle as opposed to you being off.
It should be easy shouldn't it?
You should be around 10% up on bodyweight and condition on as opposed to off.
I wont hold my breath though.
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Saying it twice still doesn't make it any more believable.
Either show a photo of you when on a cycle as opposed to you being off.
It should be easy shouldn't it?
You should be around 10% up on bodyweight and condition on as opposed to off.
I wont hold my breath though.
He already covered his bases on that one. He said he never used steroids to get bigger just more cut. ::)
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Damn I actually feel bad for the little guy, if I see him on the streets I will give him a quarter or something.
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Part 2
its funny to me that bodybuilders are upfront about personal life, relationships , and finances but never drug use
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4774-jose-raymond-up-close-and-personal-part-two.html (http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4774-jose-raymond-up-close-and-personal-part-two.html)
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well written. why do be people care if he dont have a ferrari and a big ass house, if this is what he want to do with his life then its up to him. He seems to enjoy this lifestyle so more power to him
You obviously aren't getting the point it isn't about the Ferrari or big house I agree but the guy is mid to late 30's and doesn't even have a house to live, has to go live with his friend... He doesn't have his priorities right. A grown man that isn't responsible at that age and still trying to live the dream. Hopefully he doesn't have kids or if he does they're fucked. A man child mentality
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In Better times at his foreclosed home
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Bay likey! :P
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its funny to me that bodybuilders are upfront about personal life, relationships , and finances but never drug use
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4774-jose-raymond-up-close-and-personal-part-two.html (http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4774-jose-raymond-up-close-and-personal-part-two.html)
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He lost his home for us bitches!
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Bay likey! :P
I'd wager that a canister of Play-Doh could out-think this fella. ;D
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I'd wager that a canister of Play-Doh could out-think this fella. ;D
Not a problem. I can think for both of us. I'll defer to him when it comes to training and diet though. ;D
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gud for u mate.keep posting on bodybuilding web site 24/7 without any emotional attachment.oh sorry u have emotional attachment towards bodybuilders just negative one.this drug talk is high school kid talk.r u in high school.
Rajkapoor, is Jose poor? Hi Mr. Raymond ;)
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In Better times at his foreclosed home
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:Dlol,that's cold blooded! Is that the dog he still has? Or did dream killer take that too?.
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Rajkapoor, is Jose poor? Hi Mr. Raymond ;)
thanks for answering my question kido...hope u not a drop out one.
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100% drug free Jr USA contestant vs. steroid-using 3 time Mr Olympia. Impressive indeed...
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Saying it twice still doesn't make it any more believable.
Either show a photo of you when on a cycle as opposed to you being off.
It should be easy shouldn't it?
You should be around 10% up on bodyweight and condition on as opposed to off.
I wont hold my breath though.
I posted the truth and posted a pic. If you don't believe me , fine.
I was "DECENT" , but nothing great as a bodybuilder.
I'm amazed anyone would think drugs were REQUIRED to develop my physique.
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100% drug free Jr USA contestant vs. steroid-using 3 time Mr Olympia. Impressive indeed...
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Thanks so much for the kind words , but I was light years behind a 3 time Mr O.
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well written. why do be people care if he dont have a ferrari and a big ass house, if this is what he want to do with his life then its up to him. He seems to enjoy this lifestyle so more power to him
Exactly! I don't think any bodybuilder looks at going pro as a means to make the most money$$$ possible in their life.
Being able to live life on your own terms, with your own values ,is a happy life.
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I don't see why Jose didn't leave the Northeast for a cheaper part of the country a long time ago. It's not like he's tied down to a job there. Why not go somewhere where he can afford a "normal" living situation.
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Being able to live life on your own terms, with your own values, is a happy life.
Crazy Niki, an independent small business entrepreneur, agrees, and gives you a thumbs up.
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Bay likey! :P
...even though he welches on his debts? You intrigue me. You seem to value this quality (i.e. devotion to repayment of debt) in people you converse with on the board. I guess you look the other way for a pretty face!
Et tu, brute?
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I don't see why Jose didn't leave the Northeast for a cheaper part of the country a long time ago. It's not like he's tied down to a job there. Why not go somewhere where he can afford a "normal" living situation.
Yeah like "California" with his brother Tito...
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Yeah like "California" with his brother Tito...
He has a work from home job, I'm thinking rural Alabama, Oklahoma, North Dakota, etc. He'd have more to his name than 1 fork, 1 spoon, a shaker bottle and a dog.
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Yeah like "California" with his brother Tito...
aside from the bullshit chaos, alex23 and bay post, you can live on the cheap in california.
this dude was trying to live phil heath's lifestyle on a 212 budget because of that woman, in which that gets guys all the time.
no house to put over her head and she's on the road for the next sugga daddy.
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Exactly! I don't think any bodybuilder looks at going pro as a means to make the most money$$$ possible in their life.
Being able to live life on your own terms, with your own values ,is a happy life.
Being "happy" like these guys make it is just a justification for their other failures and short comings in life... You buy into it when people say that?? GTFO
Bet you Jose is NOT happy, guy is most likely in denial of himself and definitely has some screws loose in his head (thats the majority of bbers for ya)
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aside from the bullshit chaos, alex23 and bay post, you can live on the cheap in california.
this dude was trying to live phil heath's lifestyle on a 212 budget because of that woman, in which that gets guys all the time.
no house to put over her head and she's on the road for the next sugga daddy.
Yeah thats true, I was born and raised most of my life in socal his brother Tito seems like the one with more brains and sense, guy decided it wasnt a smart investment, does personal training in Venice got married, kids and turned the other way... Nice guy too
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A shallow man meets a shallow woman, and said shallow takes him for all he has. Anyone surprised?
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HOWIE question even with not wanting to compete or take drug's anymore ,why not try to maintain that build or close to it..you looked great man,,,how long or age did u keep it up till or yr?
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A shallow man meets a shallow woman, and said shallow takes him for all he has. Anyone surprised?
Nope.
Here's a biological concept applied to the social world: Assortative mating, i.e., like attracts like.
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Being "happy" like these guys make it is just a justification for their other failures and short comings in life... You buy into it when people say that?? GTFO
Bet you Jose is NOT happy, guy is most likely in denial of himself and definitely has some screws loose in his head (thats the majority of bbers for ya)
Excellent points here. I think anyone should pursue their dream if they have a genuine passion.
I am bit confused why many claim they can't work a "normal job" and still be a bodybuilder??
Ronnie was Mr Olympia 2 or 3 times over and still worked as a full time cop.
Arnold and Franco did all kinds of things to be a success outside the gym.
New pro, Kulco is still a full time fireman.
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being a cop is not a real job
Really? ::)
The point is they could all have a stable income from a regular job and still be great bodybuilders.
If you make it big and cash in like Jay, you can quit your 9 t 5, but until then...
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HOWIE question even with not wanting to compete or take drug's anymore ,why not try to maintain that build or close to it..you looked great man,,,how long or age did u keep it up till or yr?
LOL, to maintain that level of bodyfat and abs would require full time diet and I enjoy a good meal too much hahaha.
To look like I did in the red trunks (Zane pose), required a very rigid diet and tunnel vision for 3-4 mos.
BUT, thanks for the positive words and I think the solution is to compete once a yr ( again).
By Nov , by achilles will be fully recovered and I can train 100% again.
If I ease into it right , I can maintain a decent, 16 week contest prep schedule and not quit.
They key for me is to look at it as a part time, once a year thing, NOT full time.
I would like to compete again next June , do a couple regional shows and call it a day for another year.
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Bodybuilding is a full time job
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Bodybuilding is a full time job
It doesn't have to be. You do realize that many champs have held jobs outside bodybuilding and won the big shows.
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LOL, to maintain that level of bodyfat and abs would require full time diet and I enjoy a good meal too much hahaha.
To look like I did in the red trunks (Zane pose), required a very rigid diet and tunnel vision for 3-4 mos.
BUT, thanks for the positive words and I think the solution is to compete once a yr ( again).
By Nov , by achilles will be fully recovered and I can train 100% again.
If I ease into it right , I can maintain a decent, 16 week contest prep schedule and not quit.
They key for me is to look at it as a part time, once a year thing, NOT full time.
I would like to compete again next June , do a couple regional shows and call it a day for another year.
There's a season for everything and your season for competing is past - get on to the next thing.
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It doesn't have to be. You do realize that many champs have held jobs outside bodybuilding and won the big shows.
of course, like ronnie coleman, and.....??
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of course, like ronnie coleman, and.....??
Branch has a fairly large logistics company..
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Branch has a fairly large logistics company..
What does he logistic?
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What does he logistic?
no clue lol.. he does live in texas so maybe he is shipping thousands of pounds of drugs from Mexico for the cartels.. or dead wild hogs.
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There's a season for everything and your season for competing is past - get on to the next thing.
LOL thanks for pointing out the obvious.
No shit, at 53 my best years in bodybuilding are long past.
My only contest goal now is about useing the contest date and atmosphere to help motivate me to diet.
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Being "happy" like these guys make it is just a justification for their other failures and short comings in life... You buy into it when people say that?? GTFO
Bet you Jose is NOT happy, guy is most likely in denial of himself and definitely has some screws loose in his head (thats the majority of bbers for ya)
400k is serious money if u ask me.i dont know what is ur ideal figure to feel happy.
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400k is serious money if u ask me.i dont know what is ur ideal figure to feel happy.
Yea around here that would buy an amazing home.. but in NYC i've seen 1/2 bedrooms apts in brooklyn for that much lol
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being a cop is not a real job
How you figure?
San Diego cops make $72000 after 3-4 years on the beat. And rest assured San Diego isn't as hostile as Los Angeles. On top of that they make their side hustles, so that puts them around $100k.
Ronnie didn't make as much in Arlington, but his fucking 120K 4bd room house, vette and pickup truck were attainable on $45K down there.
Oh, they have good benefits.
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400k is serious money if u ask me.i dont know what is ur ideal figure to feel happy.
What are u talking about? Nobody said 400k is not a lot, we're talking about housing and Jose DOESN'T have 400k. That kind of cash for housing in California or the east coast isn't that much
If u were living elsewhere 400k would get u a mansion
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How you figure?
San Diego cops make $72000 after 3-4 years on the beat. And rest assured San Diego isn't as hostile as Los Angeles. On top of that they make their side hustles, so that puts them around $100k.
Ronnie didn't make as much in Arlington, but his fucking 120K 4bd room house, vette and pickup truck were attainable on $45K down there.
Oh, they have good benefits.
Guess I'm the only one but I hate SD!! Don't get me wrong for others its a nice place and I recommend to them but personally not for me..
Live and die in LA like pac said :D
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It doesn't have to be. You do realize that many champs have held jobs outside bodybuilding and won the big shows.
true
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cops are well paid
but their "work" doesnt contribute to the economy or even safety
yeah, our cities would be a lot safer with no cops and our gyms would be better with no weights to lift. ;)
I try to be nice, but your post above is just plain dumb and /or silly.
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shut up forrest
Did you think of that snappy, original comeback all my yourself? :)
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Is that Namat Gay Video real?
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It doesn't have to be. You do realize that many champs have held jobs outside bodybuilding and won the big shows.
howard i dont know why you started posting regularly again but i really wish you hadn't since you are just adding to the already deep pool of "lies to make professional bbing look good"
and yeah you stopped using a while before you stepped on stage -that is the best
go get married and spare us the bullshit
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Crazy Niki, an independent small business entrepreneur, agrees, and gives you a thumbs up.
Hey I just saw this post...funny as hell and classic getbig ;D
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Hey I just saw this post...funny as hell and classic getbig ;D
Haha!
Good luck with your diet and training. You looked great in those photos!
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without steroids he d be 160 lbs top. Steroids make you feel euphoric and distant from reality. Until you crash.
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howard i dont know why you started posting regularly again but i really wish you hadn't since you are just adding to the already deep pool of "lies to make professional bbing look good"
and yeah you stopped using a while before you stepped on stage -that is the best
go get married and spare us the bullshit
I wish your mom had taken it up the ass and not gotten knocked up and had you, when she met that homeless guy , but she did.
Sometimes we all lose in this life.
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without steroids he d be 160 lbs top. Steroids make you feel euphoric and distant from reality. Until you crash.
LOL, I weighed 175 lbs at 5'9" when I was 17 running track in high school. ::)
Just how "special ed " are some of you guys when it comes to building muscle mass? seriously.
I hate to go negative but I just gotta get this off my chest.
Do you really belive it is impossible to compete at 195 lbs in contest shape without drugs? Really.
Do your genetics sucks THAT bad that it makes you think anything over 170lbs lean is "all drugs".
I'm not that good a bodybuilder and you folks act like I had some freakish mass that REQUIRED drugs?
Once again, it really does amaze me that some of you think I just had to use drugs to look like I did > really?
Oh well, thanks I guess and it really isn't that big a deal to build the size I did.
The best juiced up pros are all 40, 50 or more lbs bigger and alot more impressive then I ever was.
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without steroids he d be 160 lbs top. Steroids make you feel euphoric and distant from reality. Until you crash.
Leave my boi alone! >:(
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i bet Jose cries himself to sleep every night on the carpet floor
No fear, many of us have done that, Platz as an example.
Ditto many of us even live at the gym, it's a lifestyle thing ;-0
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Yea around here that would buy an amazing home.. but in NYC i've seen 1/2 bedrooms apts in brooklyn for that much lol
i am not saying that i dont want to live in large expensive house in Beverly hill if i could i would or may be i am living large enough for most of people but i will not beat myself to death if i am living in 2 bed apartment while other people living luxury life style.having lots of money does not hurt but i dont think its necessary to have happy and fulfilling life.
very few people have balls to chase their dream specially in sports.u have heard tiger wood making millions but have you ever heard about the guys who lost in the way.
pro bodybuilders are making decent living while doing what they love to do.
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without steroids he d be 160 lbs top. Steroids make you feel euphoric and distant from reality. Until you crash.
he have no plan to come off gear mate.u have to wait all of your life for that.in the meanwhile keep a close eye on get big or other bodybuilding websites to see him down.u enjoy being 160lb as long as you can.
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Do your genetics sucks THAT bad that it makes you think anything over 170lbs lean is "all drugs".
I'm not that good a bodybuilder and you folks act like I had some freakish mass that REQUIRED drugs?
Once again, it really does amaze me that some of you think I just had to use drugs to look like I did > really?
Oh well, thanks I guess and it really isn't that big a deal to build the size I did.
The best juiced up pros are all 40, 50 or more lbs bigger and alot more impressive then I ever was.
LOL. Clasic Meltdown. Don't worry about what others think, Howard. You can't teach old dogs new tricks. Why bother?
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Has bank take his house because he tried to buy a $400k house he obviously could not, loses girlfriend, lives on top of a buddy's garage, no internet/tv...
christ
Isn't his brother Tito Raymond?
He can't help him out? ???
Didn't Tito marry Amy Fadhli? Or is that over?
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LOL. Clasic Meltdown. Don't worry about what others think, Howard. You can't teach old dogs new tricks. Why bother?
LOL, I was just making a getbig rant, no more, no less.
I would urge anyone to do their own personal experiment with a moderate cycle of drugs and see what they can and can't do. I would also advise them to see what is possible by eating and training without drugs.
The top pros all run extreme amounts combined with rare genetics that have a freakish response to:
training, diet, and yes drugs. Most of us ( me included) won't get the same response from lifting eating and steroids that the elite pros do.
In all modesty my genetics for bodybuilding may be above avg. BUT, my response to moderate drug use wasn't that good. I suspect some rare guys would blow up more on the small, single drug cycles I used back in the mid '80's.
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LOL, I was just making a getbig rant, no more, no less.
I would urge anyone to do their own personal experiment with a moderate cycle of drugs and see what they can and can't do. I would also advise them to see what is possible by eating and training without drugs.
The top pros all run extreme amounts combined with rare genetics that have a freakish response to:
training, diet, and yes drugs. Most of us ( me included) won't get the same response from lifting eating and steroids that the elite pros do.
In all modesty my genetics for bodybuilding may be above avg. BUT, my response to moderate drug use wasn't that good. I suspect some rare guys would blow up more on the small, single drug cycles I used back in the mid '80's.
Ive tried mega dosages of shit (around 2grms total), but I was puffy and uncomfortable. You CAN make decent gains on moderate shit. For me, thats 500mgs of test and 400 mgs of tren. I could do more but I HATE taking shots. But guys think more is better. But if your genes suck, it doesnt matter how much you take
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LOL, I weighed 175 lbs at 5'9" when I was 17 running track in high school. ::)
Just how "special ed " are some of you guys when it comes to building muscle mass? seriously.
I hate to go negative but I just gotta get this off my chest.
Do you really belive it is impossible to compete at 195 lbs in contest shape without drugs? Really.
Do your genetics sucks THAT bad that it makes you think anything over 170lbs lean is "all drugs".
I'm not that good a bodybuilder and you folks act like I had some freakish mass that REQUIRED drugs?
Once again, it really does amaze me that some of you think I just had to use drugs to look like I did > really?
Oh well, thanks I guess and it really isn't that big a deal to build the size I did.
The best juiced up pros are all 40, 50 or more lbs bigger and alot more impressive then I ever was.
Weight has nothing to do with it. Frank Zane was all geared up at 185.
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keep frank out of this
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keep frank out of this
Sorry ???
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Umpa Loompa on the wonka juice, no ?
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Umpa Loompa on the wonka juice, no ?
LOL, the first time I saw Lee Preist in person at the 1994 Arnold, that is exactly what I thought.
He had that really bright blonde hair and the "pro tan/bronzer" gave his skin this orange tinge under normal light.
Lee had on this baggy sweat suit and at his ht with all that mass, and orange skin , he looked like a juiced up
Oompa- Loompa.
No offense to Lee Priest , but it was a funny thought/visual image.
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yeeesh
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Weight has nothing to do with it. Frank Zane was all geared up at 185.
great point
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100% drug free Jr USA contestant vs. steroid-using 3 time Mr Olympia. Impressive indeed...
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62297-1/14+Frank+Zane+foto.jpg)
the guy in the pic claims he was not using steroids?
lying piece of shit
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Isn't his brother Tito Raymond?
He can't help him out? ???
Didn't Tito marry Amy Fadhli? Or is that over?
I would imagine that Tito has already helped him out as much as he is going to.
"Helping" and "Enabling" are two different things ~
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What did Perdikakis do to Raymond anyways?
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cops are well paid
but their "work" doesnt contribute to the economy or even safety
Without Cops, how safe do you think society would be?
Think Anabeaux, think