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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2012, 06:25:18 PM »
I have an idea. Why doesn't he get a job? Like the rest of humanity. You know, the kind of thing you go to, 9 to 5, that maybe you don't always like, but sometimes you do, that gives you some money. And there's a boss, and you do what they say, and you work hard, and you get a paycheck that pays bills.

I refuse to believe that bodybuilding is so fucking hard that you can't hold down a 9 to 5 job.

Ever heard of Ken Brown? Won the USAs and turned pro. All while working a 10hour shift in a factory starting at 6 am. He'd hit the gym at 3 am, go to work, come home, raise his family, and still did shows. Didn't hear about him losing his house.

How about Ronnie? He had a house, and paid his bills, and even when he was winning shows, still held down a full time job as a cop.

How about Porter Cottrell? Won a bunch of shows, and still had a career as a firefighter.

So you can be a pro, even a good one, and hold down a job.

So, you know what, it is possible to hold down a job. He doesn't need to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. Get a job with the city digging ditches. Get a job in an old age home cleaning bedpans. Christ, just be a personal trainer.

Nope, instead, he's a bum now. Welched on his debts. And I'm supposed to feel pity? Be a man, and get a job. It's 10 pm, and I'm still working. Because I have a family, and I care, and it's the right thing to do. Don't see me launching a woe-is-me youtube video about my lot.

I have zero empathy. And a mild disdain.

I agree and am glad you pointed out the obvious.
For me, a stable career with a regular paycheck and bennefits was my first priority.
However a lot of talented athletes put much effort into anything else.
One of the worst things to happen to bodybuilding was the end of the AAU Mr America .
This was replaced by NPC "pro qualifier" national events.
While the NPC national shows are great events, the main goal now is getting that pro card and starting your BB career.
When I started , back in the 70's , winning your state meet was the big goal for most guys along with going for Mr America .
Sure, a few guys went to Venice Beach and lived in a van so they could just train , but not that many .
Now , every musclehead and bikini bimbo is banking on the idea of an IFBB pro career.
Once they obtain a national win they whine of they don't get a big contract .
Sure it is tough to fit in training and diet when you work full time
But for most of working slobs that is exactly what we do.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2012, 06:27:01 PM »
Maybe u should stop asking your wives to fart in your mouth Howard , not many woman find it attractive

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2012, 06:29:35 PM »
We are all bodybuilders on this site, Jose is a Professional bodybuilder.  That is the difference...I spent over twenty years at my profession and retired.  I workout everyday and work because I like to keep busy.  I expect a professional bodybuilder to make good decisions and to be able to support himself.  The body wont do him  any good away from the gym, he is not an Arnold or Louie.  When he finally awakens from the dream, he may find himself living in the back of a van talking about the good ole days...that is the problem.  Weight training is progressive, so is life.

Just like the movie with Mickey Rourke " The Wrestler"
Ironic how Arnold is the icon of bodybuilding and yet so few follow his example of how to work hard OUTSIDE the gym to make it.
I worked hard at my edcuation and career and in building a new relationship with a wonderful woman.
If you only work at bodybuilding, when you hang up your truks that's all you have .

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #53 on: September 20, 2012, 06:31:16 PM »
Maybe u should stop asking your wives to fart in your mouth Howard , not many woman find it attractive

Hmmm, good tip , thanks!
I guess my fart breath puts a damper on their desire to kiss me 'eh?
Maybe I'll keep this one drugged and locked in the basement? :o

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #54 on: September 20, 2012, 06:34:40 PM »
Haha u r right! I do know bay likey jose so maybe he could help him out.
Whatever it takes!

I like Jose and have been a fan of him , since his days as an NPC national level contest winner.
Let's all get real and put some things in perspective on his situation.

2. Even under the best circumstances, break ups can happen in any serious relationship.
* I have been divorced 3x but refused to give up and will marry #4, next month.


The best perspective I can give you is that you are like Joe... Fucking INSANE...

Married 4 fucking times?!?!

CRAZY talk.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2012, 06:34:47 PM »
I love his line, "I chose this lifestyle"

haha sure! ::) ::)

Or "Deenutz, did you do what I did?"

Which is what? lose your home and your life?  :-\ :-\
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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2012, 06:43:00 PM »
Should come live with Bay and have him support Jose since "bay likey!"

True.   :D

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2012, 07:41:33 PM »
I have an idea. Why doesn't he get a job? Like the rest of humanity. You know, the kind of thing you go to, 9 to 5, that maybe you don't always like, but sometimes you do, that gives you some money. And there's a boss, and you do what they say, and you work hard, and you get a paycheck that pays bills.

I refuse to believe that bodybuilding is so fucking hard that you can't hold down a 9 to 5 job.

Ever heard of Ken Brown? Won the USAs and turned pro. All while working a 10hour shift in a factory starting at 6 am. He'd hit the gym at 3 am, go to work, come home, raise his family, and still did shows. Didn't hear about him losing his house.

How about Ronnie? He had a house, and paid his bills, and even when he was winning shows, still held down a full time job as a cop.

How about Porter Cottrell? Won a bunch of shows, and still had a career as a firefighter.

So you can be a pro, even a good one, and hold down a job.

So, you know what, it is possible to hold down a job. He doesn't need to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. Get a job with the city digging ditches. Get a job in an old age home cleaning bedpans. Christ, just be a personal trainer.

Nope, instead, he's a bum now. Welched on his debts. And I'm supposed to feel pity? Be a man, and get a job. It's 10 pm, and I'm still working. Because I have a family, and I care, and it's the right thing to do. Don't see me launching a woe-is-me youtube video about my lot.

I have zero empathy. And a mild disdain.

Tell it like it is, SNX. I should imagine that a lot of the so-called "pros" were attracted to competitive bodybuilding, and were/are so willing to take boatloads of drugs, because of the slacker lifestyle. Then, again, if this is true, a lot of "pros" aren't the kinds of people that would light the private or public sector on fire with their intelligence, imagination, resilience, and talent (whoring and G4P doesn't count). Be a man, indeed! Good post!

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2012, 08:13:35 PM »
You crazy bastard howard!

You got any pics of when u competed that u can post??

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2012, 08:19:02 PM »
LOL @ "buying a 400k house"...

bodybuilding is a hobby, not a profession and should remain as is. 400k is peanuts these days, maybe not for 18-22  $/hourers on here but I cannot imagine anyone making under 80-100k in their 30's. if not failed massively and should reconsider what you're doing with your life.
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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2012, 08:39:55 PM »
LOL @ "buying a 400k house"...

bodybuilding is a hobby, not a profession and should remain as is. 400k is peanuts these days, maybe not for 18-22  $/hourers on here but I cannot imagine anyone making under 80-100k in their 30's. if not failed massively and should reconsider that you're doing with your life.

this 1000x this.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2012, 08:51:42 PM »
  That Namat guys has a baby penis

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2012, 09:02:28 PM »
also i think he said he put $150,000 in the house he lost too


but hey he is part of Flag or Snails

Ya isn't he banging the Flagfails wife?

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2012, 09:12:28 PM »
I have an idea. Why doesn't he get a job? Like the rest of humanity. You know, the kind of thing you go to, 9 to 5, that maybe you don't always like, but sometimes you do, that gives you some money. And there's a boss, and you do what they say, and you work hard, and you get a paycheck that pays bills.

I refuse to believe that bodybuilding is so fucking hard that you can't hold down a 9 to 5 job.

Ever heard of Ken Brown? Won the USAs and turned pro. All while working a 10hour shift in a factory starting at 6 am. He'd hit the gym at 3 am, go to work, come home, raise his family, and still did shows. Didn't hear about him losing his house.

How about Ronnie? He had a house, and paid his bills, and even when he was winning shows, still held down a full time job as a cop.

How about Porter Cottrell? Won a bunch of shows, and still had a career as a firefighter.

So you can be a pro, even a good one, and hold down a job.

So, you know what, it is possible to hold down a job. He doesn't need to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. Get a job with the city digging ditches. Get a job in an old age home cleaning bedpans. Christ, just be a personal trainer.

Nope, instead, he's a bum now. Welched on his debts. And I'm supposed to feel pity? Be a man, and get a job. It's 10 pm, and I'm still working. Because I have a family, and I care, and it's the right thing to do. Don't see me launching a woe-is-me youtube video about my lot.

I have zero empathy. And a mild disdain.

Most of those guys are mentally ill. They have to have their own business and not deal with too many people outside of bodybuilding. You ever see one of these mofo's out of the gym? They can't walk 20 feet without looking for their own reflection somewhere. This includes shadows on the street. It's as if they've been cursed and can't get out of their own skin.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2012, 09:12:46 PM »
Here is Jose posing in his home efficiency apartment


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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2012, 09:14:48 PM »
 That Namat guys has a baby penis

lol. Is Namat the guy who moved to Florida and made a killing doing Schmo Squatting on Friday and Saturday nights all the while pretending to be some kind of wrestler?

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2012, 09:16:53 PM »
Here is Jose posing in his home efficiency apartment




Thats not Lee Priest!!!


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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2012, 09:17:41 PM »
You crazy bastard howard!

You got any pics of when u competed that u can post??
Here ya go.  

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2012, 09:19:59 PM »


that's pretty impressive

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2012, 09:20:34 PM »
Here ya go.  

Damn howard looks solid in the pornstach pic

Thanks booty

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2012, 09:23:13 PM »


that's pretty impressive

Good for Howard! Looks like a Mentzer brother.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #72 on: September 21, 2012, 10:19:57 AM »
Most of those guys are mentally ill.They have to have their own business and not deal with too many people outside of bodybuilding. You ever see one of these mofo's out of the gym? They can't walk 20 feet without looking for their own reflection somewhere. This includes shadows on the street. It's as if they've been cursed and can't get out of their own skin.
i consider pro bodybuilders real life heroes.any one can hit with money problem once a while no big deal.every thing will be left behind after u died does not mean jack.i just admire the fact that these guys can walk into any gym around the world and people talk to them like one of their own irrespective of race and ethnicity or even just walk around in any country of the world wearing sleeveless and getting all the attention.can any money replace it.send ur biggest star like justin beiber alone in some African country and see how he get his butt fucked.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #73 on: September 21, 2012, 10:47:18 AM »
i consider pro bodybuilders real life heroes.any one can hit with money problem once a while no big deal.every thing will be left behind after u died does not mean jack.i just admire the fact that these guys can walk into any gym around the world and people talk to them like one of their own irrespective of race and ethnicity or even just walk around in any country of the world wearing sleeveless and getting all the attention.can any money replace it.send ur biggest star like justin beiber alone in some African country and see how he get his butt fucked.


Pro bodybuilders are heroes?

You have a different definition of hero than the rest of us.

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Re: Jose Raymond Living the Dream - This makes me want to quit bodybuilding
« Reply #74 on: September 21, 2012, 10:49:34 AM »
Good for Howard! Looks like a Mentzer brother: The Last of the Mentzerhicans.



I think Howard look more like Steve Michalik !