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The UCI has made their ruling. The UCI is the only official agency that mattered. Lance is now fucked. Bummer.
3 hours ago...
.....Lance Armstrong's final escape route was closed to him on Monday, with his complete fall from sporting grace confirmed by the international chiefs of his own sport.
The UCI, cycling's world governing body, upheld the findings of a thorough and damning report by the United States Anti-Doping Agency that accused Armstrong of masterminding a doping strategy that involved prohibited drugs, blood transfusions and elaborate schemes to fool testing authorities.
At a media conference Monday, cycling leaders revealed the 41-year-old will be banned from competitive cycling for life and stripped of the seven Tour de France titles he won between 1999 and 2005, leaving the Texan no more outs except perhaps disclosure of the long-awaited complete story.
"This is the biggest crisis cycling has ever faced," said UCI president Pat McQuaid. "This was an enormous, sophisticated cheating program."
Lance Armstrong was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles and banned for life by the UCI. (Reuters file)Monday's events seemed to be the last piece in the puzzle, as there had been some doubt as to whether the much-criticized UCI would finally turn its back on Armstrong and reverse its long-standing support of him.
McQuaid dismissed claims in the USADA report that Armstrong had bribed the UCI to ignore a positive test back in 2001, but he was otherwise steadfast in his condemnation of actions that have further tarnished the sport's already-troubled image.
While cycling faces an uphill battle to restore its credibility, that fight has already been lost for Armstrong, with the crumbling of the reputation of a man who created cycling history and inspired millions with his recovery from cancer now complete.
Though the reception he received at an event over the weekend in Austin, Texas, for his Livestrong charity proved many still appreciate his fight against the insidious disease, his sponsors have deserted him like rats fleeing a sinking ship and untold fans feel cheated by evidence that his extraordinary athletic exploits were fueled by malfeasance.
The only option left that could tilt some public sympathy back in his favor would be to come clean – to admit that just like the now-ironic title of his autobiography, "It's Not About the Bike," it was the substances and medical processes that propelled him to those famous triumphs on the roads of France.
If coming clean was never an option for Armstrong before, because there was simply too much to lose, perhaps it is now. Because it all seems to be either gone or going: all the titles, all those endorsement contracts, and his once-pristine name.
The truth might not set him free from the inevitable spiral from greatness to affirmed cheat, but it would be something that could earn him a measure of respect at the end of a sordid saga.
Just like the Tour de France has opted not to reallocate Armstrong's titles to another rider, instead leaving the record books blank for those years, there have been no winners from all this, and plenty of losers.
Cycling has lost, consumed by its own failure to effectively combat a culture of doping that grew out of all proportion and ensured that finding and affording the right corrupt doctor – and not athletic ability – was the most important attribute for a Tour de France competitor.
So many who believed in Armstrong and his fairytale story, one that seemed so uplifting and heroic, have lost too, deceived by the duplicity of his actions and his words. Armstrong was so adamant with those words, so vehement in his accusations against those who doubted him, so steadfast in his assertions that he had never, would never, could never cheat, that it seemed impossible that this was all a giant smokescreen.
Yet that is exactly what is was, one that took more than a decade of tireless efforts of anti-doping authorities, pioneering work from a tiny minority of journalists who refused to be silenced even by legal threats, confessions from 15 of Armstrong's former teammates and now the UCI's ultimate coup de grace, to bring down.
Monday's events mean that this story is close to having run its course, a defining step at the end of a tale that has unraveled to expose extraordinary details of wrongdoing behind what was once considered an extraordinary tale of human achievement.
All that is left is for Armstrong now is to reveal all, to tell the world what, how and why he fooled so many for so long. But for an athlete for whom denial
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Enough of lance. Less spandex, more thongs
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Enough of lance. Less spandex, more thongs
Yes this entire post is not bodybuilding related to my standards.
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Good, this clears the way for his drug-bought titles to be awarded to the natty cyclists.
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The UCI has made their ruling. The UCI is the only official agency that mattered. Lance is now fucked. Bummer.
3 hours ago...
.....Lance Armstrong's final escape route was closed to him on Monday, with his complete fall from sporting grace confirmed by the international chiefs of his own sport.
The UCI, cycling's world governing body, upheld the findings of a thorough and damning report by the United States Anti-Doping Agency that accused Armstrong of masterminding a doping strategy that involved prohibited drugs, blood transfusions and elaborate schemes to fool testing authorities.
At a media conference Monday, cycling leaders revealed the 41-year-old will be banned from competitive cycling for life and stripped of the seven Tour de France titles he won between 1999 and 2005, leaving the Texan no more outs except perhaps disclosure of the long-awaited complete story.
"This is the biggest crisis cycling has ever faced," said UCI president Pat McQuaid. "This was an enormous, sophisticated cheating program."
Lance Armstrong was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles and banned for life by the UCI. (Reuters file)Monday's events seemed to be the last piece in the puzzle, as there had been some doubt as to whether the much-criticized UCI would finally turn its back on Armstrong and reverse its long-standing support of him.
McQuaid dismissed claims in the USADA report that Armstrong had bribed the UCI to ignore a positive test back in 2001, but he was otherwise steadfast in his condemnation of actions that have further tarnished the sport's already-troubled image.
While cycling faces an uphill battle to restore its credibility, that fight has already been lost for Armstrong, with the crumbling of the reputation of a man who created cycling history and inspired millions with his recovery from cancer now complete.
Though the reception he received at an event over the weekend in Austin, Texas, for his Livestrong charity proved many still appreciate his fight against the insidious disease, his sponsors have deserted him like rats fleeing a sinking ship and untold fans feel cheated by evidence that his extraordinary athletic exploits were fueled by malfeasance.
The only option left that could tilt some public sympathy back in his favor would be to come clean – to admit that just like the now-ironic title of his autobiography, "It's Not About the Bike," it was the substances and medical processes that propelled him to those famous triumphs on the roads of France.
If coming clean was never an option for Armstrong before, because there was simply too much to lose, perhaps it is now. Because it all seems to be either gone or going: all the titles, all those endorsement contracts, and his once-pristine name.
The truth might not set him free from the inevitable spiral from greatness to affirmed cheat, but it would be something that could earn him a measure of respect at the end of a sordid saga.
Just like the Tour de France has opted not to reallocate Armstrong's titles to another rider, instead leaving the record books blank for those years, there have been no winners from all this, and plenty of losers.
Cycling has lost, consumed by its own failure to effectively combat a culture of doping that grew out of all proportion and ensured that finding and affording the right corrupt doctor – and not athletic ability – was the most important attribute for a Tour de France competitor.
So many who believed in Armstrong and his fairytale story, one that seemed so uplifting and heroic, have lost too, deceived by the duplicity of his actions and his words. Armstrong was so adamant with those words, so vehement in his accusations against those who doubted him, so steadfast in his assertions that he had never, would never, could never cheat, that it seemed impossible that this was all a giant smokescreen.
Yet that is exactly what is was, one that took more than a decade of tireless efforts of anti-doping authorities, pioneering work from a tiny minority of journalists who refused to be silenced even by legal threats, confessions from 15 of Armstrong's former teammates and now the UCI's ultimate coup de grace, to bring down.
Monday's events mean that this story is close to having run its course, a defining step at the end of a tale that has unraveled to expose extraordinary details of wrongdoing behind what was once considered an extraordinary tale of human achievement.
All that is left is for Armstrong now is to reveal all, to tell the world what, how and why he fooled so many for so long. But for an athlete for whom denial
He should come out and say: "I was the best athelete out of a completely juiced lineup." People know that pro cyclists are juiced, they were just tired of Lance having a holier than thou attitude about it all.
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In the end it's still one drugged up guy who was heads and shoulders above a bunch of other drugged up guys.
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I still admire him and what he accomplished.
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Enough of lance. Less spandex, more thongs
Your wish is my command.
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I still admire him and what he accomplished.
Absolutely
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In the end it's still one drugged up guy who was heads and shoulders above a bunch of other drugged up guys.
Exactly my point.
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Your wish is my command.
Yummy
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I thought he already died few months ago ???
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He simply took a lot more drugs in higher doses. Lance was known to push it to doses his teammates didn't dare go to.
He is not an ounce better than anyone he beat without his chemicals.
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I dont give a shit what they say... Lance is a 7x Champ
PERIOD
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I bet your no slouch on a bike yourself stud
He simply took a lot more drugs in higher doses. Lance was known to push it to doses his teammates didn't dare go to.
He is not an ounce better than anyone he beat without his chemicals.
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Yes this entire post is not bodybuilding related to my standards.
You are wrong !
This post is very bodybuilding related :
Lanc Armstong=Drug Addicted=Bodybuider ;)
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What's done is done, he won 7 titles on an equal playing field.
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What's done is done, he won 7 titles on an equal playing field.
That is true - the other guys who placed in the top 5 and their teams are just as doped up, it seems. So he was the best, doping or not. The Tour de France has a problem, because even the second or third place finishers have not been tested for doping. And what can they think. If Lance and his team passed all of the tests, anyone technically could of been using the same type of doping.
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Total arseholes Lance blasted the competition.
This is a dark day where lies and public deceit destroy a legacy.
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That is true - the other guys who placed in the top 5 and their teams are just as doped up, it seems. So he was the best, doping or not. The Tour de France has a problem, because even the second or third place finishers have not been tested for doping. And what can they think. If Lance and his team passed all of the tests, anyone technically could of been using the same type of doping.
Outed.
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Winner and still Champion!
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Why would anyone, who made millions stay in America? The media always finds away to destroy someone's life when he or she reaches an apex. Like I said, why no one fucks with the NFL? If they did real dope testing, then the Sunday match ups would look like division III football games, which equals a failed league like the XFL. Easier to take down a single man vs a national industry.
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That is true - the other guys who placed in the top 5 and their teams are just as doped up, it seems. So he was the best, doping or not. The Tour de France has a problem, because even the second or third place finishers have not been tested for doping. And what can they think. If Lance and his team passed all of the tests, anyone technically could of been using the same type of doping.
I think that is the reason they can't just award the 2nd or 3rd place finisher in each individual Tour de France as "winner" in place of Lance.
Basically you are just going to have this huge 7 year gap in the record books.
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FUCK LANCE
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Why would anyone, who made millions stay in America? The media always finds away to destroy someone's life when he or she reaches an apex. Like I said, why no one fucks with the NFL? If they did real dope testing, then the Sunday match ups would look like division III football games, which equals a failed league like the XFL. Easier to take down a single man vs a national industry.
Football is untouchable, you can run replacement players out there and we'd still watch.
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Winner and still Champion!
needs more biceps and tri work.
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did he lied about the cancer?
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did he lied about the cancer?
Not sure good question bro.
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to be posted on md boards,,gh15 final respond,,
listen retard,, i understand your need to lie to many the public ,,but those peopel here are bodybuilders,,
some of them are fans of bodybuilding with no connection to bodybuilders persay,,but some of these guys are next
generation of us,,and im not past pro IM CURRENT IFBB PROFESSIONAL,,now it is important for yhou fellas to understand
one simple thing,, look down at the number of companys that advertize in every board,,especially on board like md where the core of
the fitness over the counter products supplemtns look into if they dont know whats up,,the moment any professional go TRUTHFULY of what it
takes to maintain our physiqes and not only ours but amatuer level physiqes too,, most importantly we cant tell you what it takes
to actually GET THERE to our level because its years over years of drug abuse,,
now,,the first and most important thing you need to understand is that A BODYBUILDER is a liar,,from the amaturish levels to the pros,,
especially a sucsesful one,,if he didnt then there would be more of him,,the illusion would be gone ,,and he would have nothing
that would make him superman in your eyes,,thats why the lies become so big the more you progress in our CULT,,
now,,no one ever truly knows what ones take unless youre his drug dealer ,,i leave this as a thought for the smarties among you ,,
in any case,,in bodybuilding THERE ARE NO FRIENDS,,there are only buddies,,lee priest is not truly friends with that moron who kiss his ass..
he has no friends,,he never had any,,as i said before he is one fella that will keep people very very far from what goign on
in his medicine cabinet,,and his medicine cabinet wont be visible to some joe shmoe who train with him for few months,,
its a pricess you learn from young age as a bodybuilder,,especially a professional who started homonizing himself at age 15 at an era where 15
not typical,,it was more 17 in that era,,but he started at 15 ,,very very early,,
friends,,go take a look at the murderer,,the ones among you who know gh15 ,,which is all of you ofcourse,,know how i put
my words and what i mean when i say murderer ,,the few who dont will be explained by my vast number of pupils all over the
bodybuilding industry,,
in any case,,the murderer,,take a look at him when he was infront of the judge,,take a good look ,,THIS IS HOW ONES LOOK ON
GYM RAT DOSES OF HORMONES ,,with some training in prison and basic food,,it can get somewhat better ofcourse if you ahve freedom
and can eat more and train more with higher doses ,,but he coudnt ,,so take a good look at the murderer to see what would happen
to lee priest if stopped using hormones for real and not pretend to...now this would be a good case of gym rat doses or lower doses,,
in reality if stopped completely afgter 1 year he would be sitting at 165lb not even a pound more at 5'4
now,,take a good look at the hands of the murderer,,then take a good look at the hands of liar priest,,do you see something
incommon? this is what we call GH HANDS,,not every bodybuilder gets there,,hell it took jason cutler 20 years and he still didnt get
there,,why? because lee priest and the murderer were ABUSERS OF THE DRUG GROWTH HORMONE,,not everyone is getting space between the
abdoominals while on growth hormone,,some just get leaner and leaner while growing,,its called lean growth ,,everything grows
the face,,the head,,the bone structure,,the HANDS,,the feet,,the cock as in thickness..that also happens on test suspension true..but
gh will make the cock growth in thickness MAINTAINED because it wont be only due to blood flow...
so again ,,take a look at lee priest hands,,he has HUGE HANDS,,his fingers are MEATY ,,like sausages,,dry thick sasages ,,THE ACTUAL
bone is thick,,GROWTH IS PERMENENT THERE,,for not to forget!...arnold hands where indeed big but ARNOLD WAS 6'1 FELLA NOT 5'4 DWARF
..most 5'4 fellas if lucky and trained end up at 145lb add some drugs they will be 170lb thats in the gym rat level,,they will never
ever walk around 190 200 210 220 230 240 250 270...,,there were times lee liar priest was walking DID around 240-270lb at bloated
mix of anadrol and dianabol + suspension type of bloat but yet body fat was at the high singles,,9-10,,NO 5'4 FELLA NO MATTER HOW FREAK THEY ARE
AND LEE PRIEST IS NO GENETIC GREAT BECAUSE HE IS A DWARF WITH VERY BAD BACK AND VERY AVERAGE BONE STRUCTURE,,HE ALSO AINT NO
5'11 HE SIT AT 5'4!,,HE AINT NO GENETIC NOTHING,,IT IS BALONIE YOU BEEN FED FOR MANY YEARS BY? YOU GOT THAT RIGHT SUPP COMPANIES
THAT PROMOTED HIM DUE TO HIS AMAZING RESPOND TO HORMONES,,AND HIS ABILITY TO SUSTAIN VERY HIGH LEVEL OF DRUG INTAKE WHILE
RESPONDING TO IT WELL! HIS BACK DIDNT BUT THE REST DID ,,WELL HIS CHEST DIDNT EITHER,,BUT THE REST DID
now,,after you finish taking alook at his hands,,,i suggest you take a look at the actual thicnkness he present ,,NO BODYBUILDER
WILL PRESENT SUCH THICKNESS UNLESS THEY ARE ABUSERS OF HORMONES,,NOT TO FORGET! THIS THICKNESS GO HAND IN HAND WITH CONDITION ,
its not like he present you thickness of a perma bulker gym rat or local competitor,,that comes and blow up to 220 wit 15%,,
he present to you the thicness of a 5'4 LITTLE GUY THAT GET UP TO 220 AT 5% BODYFAT..this is not possible for the human body UNLESS
SPECIFIC COCKTAIL PRESENT IN THE BODY,,IN MANY TIMES..THIS COCKTAIL INCLUDE NARCOTICS MY FRIENDS,,
you will notice..with time...that lee priest storys changes on regular basis,,they always change and become new reality,,which ofcoursr all lies,,he will always
add and deduct drugs from his original stories,,he will always make it up to look like he got a gift...while in reality
all he got is bunch of lies,,he is maybe and i say maybe because i still think palumbo was a bigger drug addict,,but over all out of professional bodybuilding...
lee priest is one of the more serious users of hormones,,
it is very importsant for you kids to understand that this is the main reason he achieved sucess in bodybuilding,,his respond
to doses of legit hormones,,big doses,, everyone start with the gym rat doses,,it stops after a while ,,the human body is very similar in its capacity to
hold size,,there are specific things you need to do to increase this size,,now size and condition! thats a dif animal where genetics respone
to hormones take place with prep diet,, training ofcourse has nothing to do with it ,,no pro i know of including me ,,NONE OF
US TRAIN 2 HOURS 2 SESSIONS EVERY DAY ,,ITS A LIE,,we hardly even do cardio ,,we do it when we are HEAVILY STOCKED ON HORMONES,,
we will not go in the gym unless we have hormones in our system,,we will NEVER STEP ON TREDMIL unless hormones in system,,
this is the truth,,as hard as it is for that dwarf to face the mirror ,,this is the real honest truth,, my proof? here is my proof and
i shall name it: thomas prince,, michael matarazzo,, dorian yates,, keneth wheeler,, paulie dillet,, mishko sarcev,,drug
dealer and amatuer competitor david palumbo,,drug dealer art artwood,,many many more list is too long to name,,but thats your proof..
you saw them how they look when they are done with bb and not on mega doses,,many of them stil train,,many of them still eat,,
only thing that changed is either...they stoped the drug abuse,,and in some cases stoped due to drug abuse ilness liek don long ,,like thomas prince,,
and dont get me even started about mr banana orvil brook because after im done talkin about it people will go to jail,,
i keep it for some other time and place,,take one look at chris cook and you will see what bodybuilding is ,,,cult of drug abusers,,and yes im among them,,
but i chose to tell it all ,,THE TRUTH ,, the real truth ,,that what got me into the god position im in ,,that what will put gh15 in the hall of fame of bodybuilding,,
the ability to talk openly about everything ,,it will be the hall of fame many years from nwo ,,when everything wil be on the table,,and the truth known ,,your grankids...
will know who was there to explain it ,,and thats how i feel i undo my misdoing along the years and the lies i fed to the public,,
dexjax user of syntol in few places,,pull it well
kai green user of syntol in one place in particular,,pull it ok
jason cutler,, user of oil in the arms,,jason arms are WEAK part with out the oil his arms do not match his body parts,, he suffer from the dorian and haney arm syndrom
vicky martinez ,,user of oil few places,,pulls it ok
listen retard,, i understand your need to lie to many the public ,,but those peopel here are bodybuilders,,
some of them are fans of bodybuilding with no connection to bodybuilders persay,,but some of these guys are next
generation of us,,and im not past pro IM CURRENT IFBB PROFESSIONAL,,now it is important for yhou fellas to understand
one simple thing,, look down at the number of companys that advertize in every board,,especially on board like md where the core of
the fitness over the counter products supplemtns look into if they dont know whats up,,the moment any professional go TRUTHFULY of what it
takes to maintain our physiqes and not only ours but amatuer level physiqes too,, most importantly we cant tell you what it takes
to actually GET THERE to our level because its years over years of drug abuse,,
now,,the first and most important thing you need to understand is that A BODYBUILDER is a liar,,from the amaturish levels to the pros,,
especially a sucsesful one,,if he didnt then there would be more of him,,the illusion would be gone ,,and he would have nothing
that would make him superman in your eyes,,thats why the lies become so big the more you progress in our CULT,,
now,,no one ever truly knows what ones take unless youre his drug dealer ,,i leave this as a thought for the smarties among you ,,
in any case,,in bodybuilding THERE ARE NO FRIENDS,,there are only buddies,,lee priest is not truly friends with that moron who kiss his ass..
he has no friends,,he never had any,,as i said before he is one fella that will keep people very very far from what goign on
in his medicine cabinet,,and his medicine cabinet wont be visible to some joe shmoe who train with him for few months,,
its a pricess you learn from young age as a bodybuilder,,especially a professional who started homonizing himself at age 15 at an era where 15
not typical,,it was more 17 in that era,,but he started at 15 ,,very very early,,
now,,when talkin about lee priest you friends should first look into the past,,go into his teen age years and into his 16=17
year old time,,look at him in the gym there is training footage,,then he was on the doses of a gym rat,,at THAT AGE it was
at lower level of bodybuilding ,,the big jump happened when he kicked it up a notch in between the ages of 17 and 21,, and oh he kicked
it up a BIG notch,,
friends,,go take a look at the murderer,,the ones among you who know gh15 ,,which is all of you ofcourse,,know how i put
my words and what i mean when i say murderer ,,the few who dont will be explained by my vast number of pupils all over the
bodybuilding industry,,
in any case,,the murderer,,take a look at him when he was infront of the judge,,take a good look ,,THIS IS HOW ONES LOOK ON
GYM RAT DOSES OF HORMONES ,,with some training in prison and basic food,,it can get somewhat better ofcourse if you ahve freedom
and can eat more and train more with higher doses ,,but he coudnt ,,so take a good look at the murderer to see what would happen
to lee priest if stopped using hormones for real and not pretend to...now this would be a good case of gym rat doses or lower doses,,
in reality if stopped completely afgter 1 year he would be sitting at 165lb not even a pound more at 5'4
now,,take a good look at the hands of the murderer,,then take a good look at the hands of liar priest,,do you see something
incommon? this is what we call GH HANDS,,not every bodybuilder gets there,,hell it took jason cutler 20 years and he still didnt get
there,,why? because lee priest and the murderer were ABUSERS OF THE DRUG GROWTH HORMONE,,not everyone is getting space between the
abdoominals while on growth hormone,,some just get leaner and leaner while growing,,its called lean growth ,,everything grows
the face,,the head,,the bone structure,,the HANDS,,the feet,,the cock as in thickness..that also happens on test suspension true..but
gh will make the cock growth in thickness MAINTAINED because it wont be only due to blood flow...
so again ,,take a look at lee priest hands,,he has HUGE HANDS,,his fingers are MEATY ,,like sausages,,dry thick sasages ,,THE ACTUAL
bone is thick,,GROWTH IS PERMENENT THERE,,for not to forget!...arnold hands where indeed big but ARNOLD WAS 6'1 FELLA NOT 5'4 DWARF
..most 5'4 fellas if lucky and trained end up at 145lb add some drugs they will be 170lb thats in the gym rat level,,they will never
ever walk around 190 200 210 220 230 240 250 270...,,there were times lee liar priest was walking DID around 240-270lb at bloated
mix of anadrol and dianabol + suspension type of bloat but yet body fat was at the high singles,,9-10,,NO 5'4 FELLA NO MATTER HOW FREAK THEY ARE
AND LEE PRIEST IS NO GENETIC GREAT BECAUSE HE IS A DWARF WITH VERY BAD BACK AND VERY AVERAGE BONE STRUCTURE,,HE ALSO AINT NO
5'11 HE SIT AT 5'4!,,HE AINT NO GENETIC NOTHING,,IT IS BALONIE YOU BEEN FED FOR MANY YEARS BY? YOU GOT THAT RIGHT SUPP COMPANIES
THAT PROMOTED HIM DUE TO HIS AMAZING RESPOND TO HORMONES,,AND HIS ABILITY TO SUSTAIN VERY HIGH LEVEL OF DRUG INTAKE WHILE
RESPONDING TO IT WELL! HIS BACK DIDNT BUT THE REST DID ,,WELL HIS CHEST DIDNT EITHER,,BUT THE REST DID
now,,after you finish taking alook at his hands,,,i suggest you take a look at the actual thicnkness he present ,,NO BODYBUILDER
WILL PRESENT SUCH THICKNESS UNLESS THEY ARE ABUSERS OF HORMONES,,NOT TO FORGET! THIS THICKNESS GO HAND IN HAND WITH CONDITION ,,,
its not like he present you thickness of a perma bulker gym rat or local competitor,,that comes and blow up to 220 wit 15%,,
he present to you the thicness of a 5'4 LITTLE GUY THAT GET UP TO 220 AT 5% BODYFAT..this is not possible for the human body UNLESS
SPECIFIC COCKTAIL PRESENT IN THE BODY,,IN MANY TIMES..THIS COCKTAIL INCLUDE NARCOTICS MY FRIENDS,,
now ...another example that is good here is mr tomas prince,,inorder to understand lee priest and his ability to sustain
drug intake ...you should look into tomas prince and his past,,the diff is tomas prince failed in sustaining the doses of drugs
priest body can take,,but! big but! lee priest time is getting close to an end,,he is approaching 40 ,,he is in a down hill ,,
he now look into the supp market and will try to do supp deal,,to sell you fellas supp,,he will try to get a company or be active
in the cult but more from an industial point of view,,he is what we call in bodybuulding a new and improve rich gaspari and lee labrada,,
the only problem is ...THEY DIDNT LIE AS MUCH AS KEPT VERY VERY QUIET ,,THEY KNEW WHATS UP AND GOT HIGH IN THE CHAIN DUE TO KEEPING THEIR MOUTH SHUT
AND IF TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY TOOK THEY WERE NOT LIEING ABOUT IT IN THIS SPECIFIC MISLEADING WAY PRIEST DOES,,THIS IS THE EXACT
REASON PRIEST WILL FAIL WITH HIS SUPP LINE WHENEVER HE GOES THIS ROUTE,,HE AINT NO GASPARI AND DEF NO LABRADA,,RICH IS ASSHOLE TRUE ,,BUT
I AM ASSHOEL TOO IT DONT MATTER ...HE STILL DIDNT SIT AND LIE LIE LIE LIE WHAT DID RICH DID YOU LITTLE DWARF?? RICH BROUGH REAL
STEROID INTO THE MAIN STREAM SUPP ,,HE ACTUALLY TRIED TO HELP AND MADE THE GREY AREA AVAILABEL FOR THE MASSES SO BODYBUILDERS THAT ARE GOOD PEOPLE
CAN RICH STEROID LEVEL PHSYIQES BY GOING AROUND THE FDA,,OFCOURSE THE FDA CUT IT SHORT BUT HEY HE TRIED!! SO DID OTHERS GOOD PEOPLE,,
THEY TRIED TO HELP,,LEE PRIEST ON THE OTHER HAND...IS A FUCKIN LIAR! AND LIE BLUNTLY TO THOSE KIDS WHICH IS SHAME,,
NOW,,gh15 never said that training and nutrition is not important ,,the opposite,,inordertr to rich the top you got to have it
nailed down ,,you need to know your body BUT! if you lack the legit hormones and the doses based on the lean mass you try to achieve,,
you will NEVER DO WELL IN BODYBUILDING ,,NEVER EVER ,,no matter how good your genetic is ,,why? because on every white 5'4 lifter there is some black 150lb
with muslce shape out of this world that put them to shame ..but guess what that black lifter doesnt have the money for aas..
so he is stuck,,he wil always have very good genetics,,shape ,,lines lol,,but!!! he will be sitting at 150lb with his good genetics,,
ofcourse 150 is a number i chose for 5'4 ,,it can very well be 185 for a black fella with good lines and some real good frame UNLIKE lee priest,,
ofcourse it wil never be anything remotly close to lee priest bf levels when preping,,becuase they do not have a clue to the abuse
going on in that level...
another good exampel of a fella lee priest trying to make himself look like is SAGI KALEV,,sagi is a better version of lee priest...
why am i saying that..im saying that because he milk thre americanos money right and left,,he is on every cover ,,but he can atleast talk about being natural
even though he lies his look is a gym rat level doses...atleast his lies are more easy to understand,,,he could have wiped the floor with priest if he went on the same
level of drug intake and he is some little jew boy ,,genetic eh?,,which bring me back to priest....priest lie out of his mouth with no shame,,
it is worse than the way steve reeves lied abotu his testosterone use ,,or skip and that skinny boy nortom lied about natural status,,
or even sagi kalev who prefer not to talk about his gym rat constant doses,,in lee case it is a deasese because he dont care
,,he dont care how big the lie is ,,he dont care that kids will try to get to this size,,remember he is equivelent to 5'10 fella who is 280-290lb at high singles,,
he just walk around like you fellas are bunch of retards that he can spoon fed balonie to ,,he thikn you are truly morons,,
he dont care,,as alwys HE ONLY CARE ABOUT HIM SELF,,this is why he got kicked out of the ifbb too,,he only care about his sorry ass and his drugs,,
i told you already i could make life very hard for him ,,but i love money,,why do it when i can get anotheer castle in europe,,
bodybuilding is 80-90% drugs and 10-20% nutrition and training,,
you can win a state show by working out yes WORKING OUT NOT TRAINING LIKE you think you doing some kind of sport..you are doing a cult activity ,,
it aint no training my friends,,you arre not sprinters ,,or football players,,eventhough they take drugs exactly like you ,,bodybuilding is an INDUSTRY ,,more of an obsession
a fashion industry ,,its a cult and lee has a lot of blame in what got us into a cult,,
so as i said you can win state show in americana by simply using bow flex ,,eat 3 meals a day ,,and resting enough as in not workin constructtion of swimming everyday,,
BUT! if you dont have the drugs in you ,,,you can be the most dedicated bodybuilding on planet earth and you will be stuck at 5'9 180 lb 10% bodyfat,,THATS A LUCKY FELLA THAT IS TRULY NATURAL,,
SOME GUYS AFTER PLAYING WITH DRUGS SUCH AS HALODROL AND SUPERDROL CAN GET TO 190-200 AND THEN BE 185 AT 6% ,,BUT YOU WILL NEVER EVER BE SITTING AT THE WINNER CIRCLE
WITH OUT THE CONSTANT USE OF HORMONES ,,INJECTABLES,,TRENBOLONA,,EQUIPONA,,MASTERONA,,TESTOSTERONA,,NANDROLONE,,GROWTH HORMONES IS ALSO A MUST NOW DAYS,,BECAUSE
THE 190LB COMPETITION WEIGHT EDGE IS OVER AND DONE WITH ,,SO GH IS A MUST AND WEN IT COMES TO HIGHEST LEVELS ITS 20UNITS AND OVER...AND LAST BUT NOT LAASTLY ...I N S U L I N
MANY USE ITNOW DAYS ,,GH15 IS COMPLETLY AGAINST IT BUT I HAD TO USE IT TOO,,I HAD NO CHOICE,,IM STRONGLY AGAINT INSULIN IN BODYBUILDING OR ANY SPORT,,AND STRONGLY AGAINST NARCOTICS,,
I LOST THE BOTTLE ON BOTH THIS FIELDS,,BECAUSE DRUGS DEALERS PUSHED IT IN BIG TIME,,I STILL TRY TO FIGHT IT ,,BUT SOME OF THE LORDS WANT IT IN AND I CAN NOT FIGHT THIS THING ALONE,,
you will notice..with time...that lee priest storys changes on regular basis,,they always change and become new reality,,which ofcoursr all lies,,he will always
add and deduct drugs from his original stories,,he will always make it up to look like he got a gift...while in reality
all he got is bunch of lies,,he is maybe and i say maybe because i still think palumbo was a bigger drug addict,,but over all out of professional bodybuilding...
lee priest is one of the more serious users of hormones,,
it is very importsant for you kids to understand that this is the main reason he achieved sucess in bodybuilding,,his respond
to doses of legit hormones,,big doses,, everyone start with the gym rat doses,,it stops after a while ,,the human body is very similar in its capacity to
hold size,,there are specific things you need to do to increase this size,,now size and condition! thats a dif animal where genetics respone
to hormones take place with prep diet,, training ofcourse has nothing to do with it ,,no pro i know of including me ,,NONE OF
US TRAIN 2 HOURS 2 SESSIONS EVERY DAY ,,ITS A LIE,,we hardly even do cardio ,,we do it when we are HEAVILY STOCKED ON HORMONES,,
we will not go in the gym unless we have hormones in our system,,we will NEVER STEP ON TREDMIL unless hormones in system,,
this is the truth,,as hard as it is for that dwarf to face the mirror ,,this is the real honest truth,, my proof? here is my proof and
i shall name it: thomas prince,, michael matarazo,, dorian yates,, keneth wheeler,, paulie dillet,, mishko sarcev,,drug
dealer and amatuer competitor david palumbo,,drug dealer art artwood,,many many more list is too long to name,,but thats your proof..
you saw them how they look when thy are done with bb and not on mega doses,,many of them stil train,,many of them still eat,,
only thing that changed is either...they stoped the drug abuse,,and in some cases stoped due to drug abuse ilness liek don long ,,like thomas prince,,
and dont get me even started about mr banana orvil brook because after im done talkin about it people will go to jail,,
dexjax user of syntol in few places,,pull it well
kai green user of syntol in one place in particular,,pull it ok
jason cutler,, user of oil in the arms,,jason arms are WEAK part with out the oil his arms do not match his body parts,, he suffer from the dorian and haney arm syndrom
vicky martinez ,,user of oil few places,,pulls it ok
now,,i hope you have learned something md forums,,
for i am the ONLY god of hormones,,
gh15 approved
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about sums it all up bro
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best thing he could do now is to come clean about everything and whilst he's at it, drop every fucker in cycling in it. a dirty sport from top to bottom. armstrong is the sacrificial lamb offered to take the heat from the rest of the dirt in that sport
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let this be a lesson to anyone who takes performance enhancing drugs,
you will be stripped of everything in your life that you have ever done
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In the end it's still one drugged up guy who was heads and shoulders above a bunch of other drugged up guys.
Fucking A!
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One testicle of peace.
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Armstrong is the only one of these little bitches that kept his mouth shut, and he had ten times the heat on him
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In the end it's still one drugged up guy who was heads and shoulders above a bunch of other drugged up guys.
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What's done is done, he won 7 titles on an equal playing field.
Truth. Dq'd or not his wins were legit. "The Tour" is and always has been awash in E.P.O and test injections.
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Your wish is my command.
Bay no likey! :-X
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did he lied about the cancer?
Is interesting that he was most likely doing all sorts of exotic shit and his cancer apparently stayed in remission the whole time and to this day i believe. He apparently had that shit in his lungs and brain.
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He was hitting the GH hard before his cancer. He stopped the GH after the remission and stuck with the other stuff. Intradasting.
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In the end it's still one drugged up guy who was heads and shoulders above a bunch of other drugged up guys.
That's the best summation of this saga i have seen. +1
So many naive ppl that believe he was the only one and that #2,3,4,5 etc were clean. It is ridiculous!
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Listen up morons that includes you too Yaroni. Where's your proof EVERYONE was juiced? Exactly, you have none. No doubt in my mind most were. But to call it an "even playing field" is blasphemous.
The judgement has been made. Lance is a zero time Tour De France winner and is banned from cycling. In other words, anything he did in cycling, NEVER HAPPENED. So with that, it should be treated as such an anyone on this board making reference to titles he never won or feats he never accomplished should be TO and their IP account banned. In addition, I'd like to keep a records of all said individuals to report to Department of Homeland Security or the equivalent in their country and the UCI for investigation.
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Everyone who knows anything knows Lance wasn't the only one doping. Doping wasn't his undoing.
If anything Lance was PROTECTED through the years. Just watch, other heads will roll, probably including from within the UCI that just upheld the USADA ban. If the UCI would have seen any way at all to contest the USADA decision they would have, that much is guaranteed.
Lance couldn't have gotten away with all this without some help from "up high".
Burn it all down. Expose all the corruption, bribes, making doping positives disappear and so on.
Lots of Lance's colleagues were burnt, why should Lance skate free? Because he has more money?
He made his bed and now has to lie in it.
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Everyone who knows anything knows Lance wasn't the only one doping. Doping wasn't his undoing.
If anything Lance was PROTECTED through the years. Just watch, other heads will roll, probably including from within the UCI that just upheld the USADA ban. If the UCI would have seen any way at all to contest the USADA decision they would have, that much is guaranteed.
Lance couldn't have gotten away with all this without some help from "up high".
Burn it all down. Expose all the corruption, bribes, making doping positives disappear and so on.
Lots of Lance's colleagues were burnt, why should Lance skate free? Because he has more money?
He made his bed and now has to lie in it.
Oh look, yet another crusader
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Everyone who knows anything knows Lance wasn't the only one doping. Doping wasn't his undoing.
If anything Lance was PROTECTED through the years. Just watch, other heads will roll, probably including from within the UCI that just upheld the USADA ban. If the UCI would have seen any way at all to contest the USADA decision they would have, that much is guaranteed.
Lance couldn't have gotten away with all this without some help from "up high".
Burn it all down. Expose all the corruption, bribes, making doping positives disappear and so on.
Lots of Lance's colleagues were burnt, why should Lance skate free? Because he has more money?
He made his bed and now has to lie in it.
Thats actually somewhat true.
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The funniest thing i've heard during this saga is 'Oh the doping was bad in the 90's and early 00's but it's clean now' yeh like people haven't been saying that since the fucking 60's :D, fucking dipshits think Cadel Evans is clean because he's like the only winner not caught since 2000.
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Football is untouchable, you can run replacement players out there and we'd still watch.
Do you think that the NFL could sell 100 dollar tickets, pay off stadium bonds, have television contracts, if the linemen only weighed 225 lbs?
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I'd give my left nut to win seven Tour de France titles
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hes not fucked, really hes not.
the guy is still filthy rich and doesnt give a fuck.
really.
and if all else fails, gh15 will take care of this
gh15 is on the phone to Washington as we speak
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While yes, he's still rich, a guy with his ego is yes, FUCKED. He will be looked at as an embarrasment to the general public. A guy like him wont be able to handle it especially being touted as the best of all time in his craft.
He wont recover unless he spills the beans on everything and at this point, thats not a bad idea.
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The funniest thing i've heard during this saga is 'Oh the doping was bad in the 90's and early 00's but it's clean now' yeh like people haven't been saying that since the fucking 60's :D, fucking dipshits think Cadel Evans is clean because he's like the only winner not caught since 2000.
If you knew anything about cycling you would know that Evans is clean as a whistle. He is one of the few who bonks on big hills, has bad days and basically rides like a natural rider does! Lance was rumoured dirty for SO long and yet Evans never has rumours and nor does Bradley Wiggins. You can see the riders taking gear because they are the ones who just keep accelerating up a hill when the best in the world are left behind and no one is THAT much better than the others at this level.
Notice how poorly Contador performed when he came back from suspension? Because he was off the peds. Contador is till an outstanding rider but not like he was on the gear. Another thing about Evans, he prides himself on having never been beaten by someone who hasn't tested positive at least once, except for Wiggins at the moment.
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I dont give a shit what they say... Lance is a 7x Champ
PERIOD
(http://www.medialifemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lance.jpg)
like lance said the other riders know who won those seven. period
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No sympathy for the guy. Glad he got caught. Cheaters gonna cheat regardless.
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I understand WADA is now looking into Arnold's 7 Olympia titles......
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LOL
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Yes maybe they will go after the bodybuilds next.
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No sympathy for the guy. Glad he got caught. Cheaters gonna cheat regardless.
How are you gonna cheat, when everybody else is "cheating"?
He's doing the same damn thing as everybody else---he just did it better.
it just shows the hypocrisy of the rules in sports---sports is about being competitive, so it is natural for everybody to do what they have to do to win...
Like Phil Heath said, "Winners do what they have to do to win".
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I'd give my left nut to win seven Tour de France titles
lances left nut was just taken, not given for anything
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Im glad I bought my livestrong hoodie last month
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Seems similar to Baseball when all the HR records were being broken. A sport finds an athlete that brings in huge sponsorship dollars. They milk it dry and then find rightousness years later...most likely because new evidence surfaces. Who's going down? Not the big money makers.
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Seems similar to Baseball when all the HR records were being broken. A sport finds an athlete that brings in huge sponsorship dollars. They milk it dry and then find rightousness years later...most likely because new evidence surfaces. Who's going down? Not the big money makers.
This.
100 Percent true... They did it to Sosa and McGuire and Bonds.
These fuckers will ALWAYS turn on you.
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If you do the crime you must be prepared to do the time.
We've all heard that.
When fishing in a pond of hundreds only one is going to get caught, and usually the biggest and brightest one.
Lance got caught...it's his own fault. Maybe everyone cheated but he was the most noticeable by far. He should have prepared himself.
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Do you think that the NFL could sell 100 dollar tickets, pay off stadium bonds, have television contracts, if the linemen only weighed 225 lbs?
The NFL is bigger and faster than ever, but not necessarily better to watch than it was 30-40 years ago. Now in a sport like baseball, juicing made the game much more exciting to watch.
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If you do the crime you must be prepared to do the time.
We've all heard that.
When fishing in a pond of hundreds only one is going to get caught, and usually the biggest and brightest one.
Lance got caught...it's his own fault. Maybe everyone cheated but he was the most noticeable by far. He should have prepared himself.
Did he ever fail a test?
What's the criteria for saying someone is a cheat.
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Did he ever fail a test?
What's the criteria for saying someone is a cheat.
Yes he did. Why is everyone asking that? He failed many a blood doping test.
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Yes he did. Why is everyone asking that? He failed many a blood doping test.
We are asking because we've never seen where he failed any tests... That's part of the problem.
I have not personally read or seen where he failed one.
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So does he have to return the prize money?
are they going to award the title(s) to the 2nd place guy?
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Tonight, lance Armstrong will cry himself to sleep with $125 million and 3 or 4 hot escorts. poor dude.
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Some of his sponsors are already asking for money back. Should get interesting...
http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/story/_/id/8537796/texas-insurance-firm-asks-lance-armstrong-repay-75-million-bonuses
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PED FILT
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CLAWBACK TIME Mr Armstrong... $12 million dollars worth! Exactly what I was hoping for.
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AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - A Texas promotional company that paid millions of dollars to Lance Armstrong for winning the Tour de France said on Monday it was considering legal action to get the money back after the American cyclist was stripped of his Tour titles.
Armstrong had his seven Tour de France victories nullified and was banned for life on Monday after the International Cycling Union (UCI) ratified the United States Anti-Doping Agency's (USADA) sanctions against him.
Dallas-based SCA Promotions paid Armstrong $7.5 million for winning his sixth Tour title in 2004 - $5 million as a performance bonus and $2.5 million in interest and attorney fees - as part of a 2006 legal settlement. Armstrong had sued SCA when it withheld the payment after doping allegations against him surfaced.
Tailwind Sports, the owner of Armstrong's U.S. Postal team, had promised the cyclist a $5 million bonus if he won a sixth Tour title and it took out insurance coverage with SCA.
In all, SCA Promotions paid Armstrong some $12 million, the company's lawyer Jeffrey Dorough said.
It was unclear exactly how much SCA may seek to recover.
"Mr. Armstrong is no longer the official winner of any Tour de France races, and as a result it is inappropriate and improper for him to retain any bonus payments made by SCA," Dorough said in a statement.
He said SCA Promotions was "digesting the UCI's decision" and that the company was taking into consideration the possibility that Armstrong or the World Anti-Doping Agency could appeal.
Earlier this month, USADA published a report on Armstrong that said the now-retired rider had been involved in the "most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen."
"I was sickened by what I read in the USADA report," UCI President Pat McQuaid said on Monday.
Armstrong, 41, who has denied doping, had previously elected not to contest the USADA charges, prompting USADA to propose his punishment pending confirmation from cycling's world governing body.
Armstrong, widely considered one of the greatest cyclists of all time, says he has never failed a doping test.
He said he had stopped contesting the charges after years of probes and rumors because "there comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'Enough is enough.'"
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These companies will never see a red cent of that money.
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If you knew anything about cycling you would know that Evans is clean as a whistle. He is one of the few who bonks on big hills, has bad days and basically rides like a natural rider does! Lance was rumoured dirty for SO long and yet Evans never has rumours and nor does Bradley Wiggins. You can see the riders taking gear because they are the ones who just keep accelerating up a hill when the best in the world are left behind and no one is THAT much better than the others at this level.
Notice how poorly Contador performed when he came back from suspension? Because he was off the peds. Contador is till an outstanding rider but not like he was on the gear. Another thing about Evans, he prides himself on having never been beaten by someone who hasn't tested positive at least once, except for Wiggins at the moment.
Cadel is clean as a whistle? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Did you not read today how he employed the services of one "Dr. Ferrari" who is a key figure in the EPO distribution at the heart of the Postal Service investigation? Oh god, ignorance is bliss :)
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Yes he did. Why is everyone asking that? He failed many a blood doping test.
No he didn't. Just today the French labs say he was suspicious but didnt fail any tests. Lance was taken down by Floyd "the drunk" Landis and Tyler "the whiner" Hamilton.
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Yes....with a net worth of just a paltry 125 million, Lance Armstrong is f'ed..... ::)
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These companies will never see a red cent of that money.
All they need is one Judge to hear some sort of civil case against Lance...I'm guessing the last thing Lance wants to do is step in a court room and swear under oath and have to answer questions.
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He's guilty. Any innocent person would welcome a full on investigation because they would know that they will be preven innocent due to a lack of any evidence.
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Cadel is clean as a whistle? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Did you not read today how he employed the services of one "Dr. Ferrari" who is a key figure in the EPO distribution at the heart of the Postal Service investigation? Oh god, ignorance is bliss :)
Like the old saying that went around for years and years in the circle, "If you want to be a climber, just climb the 8 steps up to Ferrari's office"
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Like the old saying that went around for years and years in the circle, "If you want to be a climber, just climb the 8 steps up to Ferrari's office"
THIS x 10000000000
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The sick thing about Lance Armstrong is, the feds went knocking on doors and he expected other people to lie to the feds. Just a straight up asshole who only cares about himself. Lie to the feds and you do prison time. But Lance don't care. Dude thinks he's larger than it all.
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Greatest cyclist that has EVER lived......
Not his fucking fault the sport is a cesspool that has proven unable to police itself.
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So does he have to return the prize money?
are they going to award the title(s) to the 2nd place guy?
All the prize money always went to his teammates. That's the way they do it in professional cycling.
There will be no winner for years 1999 - 2006, says the UCI.
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All the prize money always went to his teammates. That's the way they do it in professional cycling.
There will be no winner for years 1999 - 2006, says the UCI.
Not true.....saw it on TV, Lance Armstrong won.
Fuck the French!
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Not true.....saw it on TV, Lance Armstrong won.
Fuck the French!
I agree. 20 years from now, if anyone asked, Lance won all those Tours.
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all these people in the cycling world, and wada knew all along armstrong was using steroids and epo, they simply rode his star to capitalize, now they are just doing what they do when he is no longer marketable and can bring in money, trash the fuck out of him, once you learn the elite way and how they work you see it over and over
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Yes....with a net worth of just a paltry 125 million, Lance Armstrong is f'ed..... ::)
You fucking retard. I'm sure with all that money he's looking forward to maybe a decade of litigation. Not a worry in the world.
I agree. 20 years from now, if anyone asked, Lance won all those Tours.
Just like if you asked anyone today who won the 100 meters at the '88 Olympics they will say Ben Johnson.
Right?
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You fucking retard. I'm sure with all that money he's looking forward to maybe a decade of litigation. Not a worry in the world.
Just like if you asked anyone today who won the 100 meters at the '88 Olympics they will say Ben Johnson.
Right?
You don't see the difference between 7 years of absolute dominance and ONE race?
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You fucking retard. I'm sure with all that money he's looking forward to maybe a decade of litigation. Not a worry in the world.
Just like if you asked anyone today who won the 100 meters at the '88 Olympics they will say Ben Johnson.
Right?
Sure as fuck don't see many people lining up to lead a Carl Lewis parade.....
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You don't see the difference between 7 years of absolute dominance and ONE race?
Ben Johnson's time is the reason why they were speeding up tracks, so that his time would be obliterated. One man, one race, made a whole lotta noise.
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You don't see the difference between 7 years of absolute dominance and ONE race?
What's that got to do with anything?
Do you think the general public will forgive Armstrong and see him as a 7 time TdF champion? I don't.
Yes he was the best, even though we could argue the playing field was far from level due to corruption. Not all had the means to bribe officials like Lance. The 'Lance machine' cost a lot of money.
Sure as fuck don't see many people lining up to lead a Carl Lewis parade.....
There's no difference between Lewis' and Johnson's legacies today? We know Lewis was just as doped, but does it matter? Ben has a huge asterix beside his name, Lewis doesn't.
The bottom line is that Lance signed the papers swearing to abide by the rules. Through a series of circumstances he was caught. His arrogance was his undoing... he can't really blame anyone but himself. No one forced him to become a cyclist who broke the rules. Like I said before, this guy was very vocal in speaking out against doping, even bought testing equipment for the UCI! Imagine the arrogance in doing that when you yourself are a drug pusher!
The situation would be much different had the guy kept a lower profile.
This quote really sums it up:
Finally, the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.
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I bet your no slouch on a bike yourself stud
So he's got bigger ball then the rest of his teammates and competitors? Damn....once again America punishing those who dare to go above and beyond. God damn liberals and democrats hate overachievers and tryhards.
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Greg L. has always said that Lance was the biggest Doper and Liar in Cycling.
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I dont give a shit what they say... Lance is a 7x Champ
PERIOD
(http://www.medialifemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lance.jpg)
Absolutely... >:( >:( >:(.... the Man won 7 TIMES....they can "Rule" all they want Lance is this and that, he won on the Day against the best out there again and again and if these Fuckheads actually believe Lance is the only Champion in Cycling to have taken Drugs they better strip every other Tour Champion....for the Last 30 YEARS +..... and the runner ups as well...and ....the guy was a God damn inspiration for Thousands the world over and imo still is.
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the titles were taken away, so what
he lost the titles, but not the races.
and hes financialy safe.
So what? LOL you really feel Lance is completely fine with all that has transpired? No worries?
Doesn't care AT ALL that the titles were taken away. Just like Ben Johnson didn't give a shit he was caught. I mean everyone knows and agrees Ben won the '88 race?
Hardly.
He has so much money that he will enjoy sitting in court as his former sponsors sue him. Laughing all the way to the bank, life is just peachy for the guy right now, all smiles, all day.
No worries that the FEDs may pick up their investigations again.
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Im glad I bought my livestrong hoodie last month
Glad I bought my Livestrong band back when the Livestrong Foundation was still donating to cancer research.
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id have no worries.he retired young and rich, now negatively famous, but since when do americans care what anyone thinks of them
It's hard to imagine a person who wouldn't care about this type of situation. He has so much trouble coming his way from different directions that it should be very stressful. Not just people looking down on him but serious legal problems as well.
But then again Lance is probably a psychopath so he may handle it better than other people.
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What's that got to do with anything?
Do you think the general public will forgive Armstrong and see him as a 7 time TdF champion? I don't.
Yes he was the best, even though we could argue the playing field was far from level due to corruption. Not all had the means to bribe officials like Lance. The 'Lance machine' cost a lot of money.
There's no difference between Lewis' and Johnson's legacies today? We know Lewis was just as doped, but does it matter? Ben has a huge asterix beside his name, Lewis doesn't.
The bottom line is that Lance signed the papers swearing to abide by the rules. Through a series of circumstances he was caught. His arrogance was his undoing... he can't really blame anyone but himself. No one forced him to become a cyclist who broke the rules. Like I said before, this guy was very vocal in speaking out against doping, even bought testing equipment for the UCI! Imagine the arrogance in doing that when you yourself are a drug pusher!
The situation would be much different had the guy kept a lower profile.
This quote really sums it up:
Finally, the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.
Your post really sums it up.
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Greatest cyclist that has EVER lived......
Not his fucking fault the sport is a cesspool that has proven unable to police itself.
Eddy Merckx is the greatest cyclist, even with HIS several positive doping tests. Lance was the best during his time.
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Ben Johnson's time is the reason why they were speeding up tracks, so that his time would be obliterated. One man, one race, made a whole lotta noise.
Absolutely it did. I still remember just looking at that 100 meter time in awe years ago. The fact still remains that Carl Lewis beat him consistently before Johnson blew him away in that one race, and I think Johnson might have BARELY beat him a month or so before that. Johnson didn't consistently dominate his sport.
These others guys can call Armstrong a scumbag, talk about DEA agents and lawsuits all they want but I am simply saying IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION Lance dominated for 7 years and won every single one of these titles. They can run this circus for 24/7 on network tv and it's still never going to change the opinion for millions. What Lance did was wrong, he cheated. Doesn't change my memory of him reaching the mountain stage of the course and leaving everyone in the dust for 7 years.
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Why do they hate him so much? If they are all cheats too? Fucking guys.
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Absolutely it did. I still remember just looking at that 100 meter time in awe years ago. The fact still remains that Carl Lewis beat him consistently before Johnson blew him away in that one race, and I think Johnson might have BARELY beat him a month or so before that. Johnson didn't consistently dominate his sport.
These others guys can call Armstrong a scumbag, talk about DEA agents and lawsuits all they want but I am simply saying IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION Lance dominated for 7 years and won every single one of these titles. They can run this circus for 24/7 on network tv and it's still never going to change the opinion for millions. What Lance did was wrong, he cheated. Doesn't change my memory of him reaching the mountain stage of the course and leaving everyone in the dust for 7 years.
Good post.
Small quible though, as someone that used to really follow sprinting...up to 1985, Lewis dominated but then Johnson started beating Lewis consistently by '86. He put a couple of daggers into Lewis's psyche when he won in Rome the year before Seoul, and left no doubt that he was the best 100m man in the world at the time. Anyway, there are so many shenanigans associated with the Seoul race...the 8 runners now known to have used PEDs, and the whole matter of Lewis's bud somehow getting accreditation and sitting in the testing area (that's not to say that Johnson didn't cheat and use low dose winny and dbol in training).
Sorry, resume discussing "Lance."
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For someone as egotistical as Lance the fact that his achievements have been diminished so much, will be cause for serious mind fuck and anger without any real outlet. This is hurting him a lot.
Nobody knows how much more his position allowed him to abuse substances in comparison to others, or the variance in genetic response to said substances. It's all too much of a grey area.
If you live by the sword you die by the sword, he took it upon himself to push the limits and it came back and bit him the in the ass.
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Good post.
Small quible though, as someone that used to really follow sprinting...up to 1985, Lewis dominated but then Johnson started beating Lewis consistently by '86. He put a couple of daggers into Lewis's psyche when he won in Rome the year before Seoul, and left no doubt that he was the best 100m man in the world at the time. Anyway, there are so many shenanigans associated with the Seoul race...the 8 runners now known to have used PEDs, and the whole matter of Lewis's bud somehow getting accreditation and sitting in the testing area (that's not to say that Johnson didn't cheat and use low dose winny and dbol in training).
Sorry, resume discussing "Lance."
Ah clarity. I probably should have looked more into the definite facts of the Johnson/Lewis rivalry but was just going from my sketchy memory. Have you seen the 30 for 30 documentary of their rivalry? I heard it was excellent. And yes, Seoul South Korea and shenanigans go hand in hand. Roy Jones Jr robbery in the Gold Medal Match, anyone?
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So are they giving a lifetime ban to the other 100+ dirty PED cyclist on the fagg de tour ???
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Listen up morons that includes you too Yaroni. Where's your proof EVERYONE was juiced? Exactly, you have none. No doubt in my mind most were. But to call it an "even playing field" is blasphemous.
The judgement has been made. Lance is a zero time Tour De France winner and is banned from cycling. In other words, anything he did in cycling, NEVER HAPPENED. So with that, it should be treated as such an anyone on this board making reference to titles he never won or feats he never accomplished should be TO and their IP account banned. In addition, I'd like to keep a records of all said individuals to report to Department of Homeland Security or the equivalent in their country and the UCI for investigation.
Your delusion has surpassed Tbombz and Vince G, You would have looked better by saying you believe in Santa Clause
The truth of the matter is the real scumbag and low lifes are the ones that are doing this to him, they are a part of a giant deception as big as Hitlers and they are making billions of dollars deceiving the public with their anti doping shit that 99% of athletes get away with,...
take Wiggs for example, he is already a victim of this corrupt system, he thinks that many up there are not chemically enhanced, once you believe this non-sense it is like having an amputated soul, no cure, I would rather have AIDS then the disease Wiggs is plagued with, completely horrifying
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Ah clarity. I probably should have looked more into the definite facts of the Johnson/Lewis rivalry but was just going from my sketchy memory. Have you seen the 30 for 30 documentary of their rivalry? I heard it was excellent. And yes, Seoul South Korea and shenanigans go hand in hand. Roy Jones Jr robbery in the Gold Medal Match, anyone?
I'm one of the few fools around that doesn't have DVR, so I haven't been able to catch it on ESPN. I guess I should just download it. Yeah that was a laughingly unbelievable decision against Roy Jones Jr...I mean, things are on one level when athletes are doping, but when the officials and governing bodies become complicit and begin gaming the results, it's pretty much impossible to ever take things seriously again. Almost got that way with Azerbaijan and boxing this past London Olympics, too.
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I wonder if Lance tried to buy off the higher ups to go public with "other" teams riders dirty tests in essences trying to buy a title by sabotaging other teams. That's what happened with Ben Johnson.
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So what? LOL you really feel Lance is completely fine with all that has transpired? No worries?
Doesn't care AT ALL that the titles were taken away. Just like Ben Johnson didn't give a shit he was caught. I mean everyone knows and agrees Ben won the '88 race?
Hardly.
He has so much money that he will enjoy sitting in court as his former sponsors sue him. Laughing all the way to the bank, life is just peachy for the guy right now, all smiles, all day.
No worries that the FEDs may pick up their investigations again.
Horrible example, everyone I have ever met thinks Ben Johnson is a living legend, everyone I have ever met know and says Ben has changed the game, everyone I have ever met thinks Ben is a hero and everyone I ever met thinks Lewis is a whiny bitch cry baby who could not hack it at Ben's level, Ben will always be remembered, Lewis is forgotten, no one talks about him everyone talks about Ben.
Lance will be a legacy and no one will even talk about any other cyclist.
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Lance will be a legacy and no one will even talk about any other cyclist.
Lance IS cycling... Cycling will never be as popular or as lucrative as it was under Armstrong.
The cycling organizations should have been sucking his dick, instead, they fucked themselves.
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Horrible example, everyone I have ever met thinks Ben Johnson is a living legend, everyone I have ever met know and says Ben has changed the game, everyone I have ever met thinks Ben is a hero and everyone I ever met thinks Lewis is a whiny bitch cry baby who could not hack it at Ben's level, Ben will always be remembered, Lewis is forgotten, no one talks about him everyone talks about Ben.
Lance will be a legacy and no one will even talk about any other cyclist.
That's so true. The whiny bitch stuff. (Lewis was a hell of finisher, and damn, he had an amazing long jump too, when he was able to focus on it.) Back in the day, mid-80s, I was partying with some of the US athletes before a Paris meet, and the shit that they had to say about Lewis...crying, pulling prima donna crap and refusing to compete unless his "best friend" on the B squad was allowed to travel with the A team etc was hilarious. You can fill in the blanks on that, too, "not that there's anything wrong with that, of course." He's just always been full of drama and lies.
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So what? LOL you really feel Lance is completely fine with all that has transpired? No worries?
Doesn't care AT ALL that the titles were taken away. Just like Ben Johnson didn't give a shit he was caught. I mean everyone knows and agrees Ben won the '88 race?
Hardly.
He has so much money that he will enjoy sitting in court as his former sponsors sue him. Laughing all the way to the bank, life is just peachy for the guy right now, all smiles, all day.
No worries that the FEDs may pick up their investigations again.
Former sponsors Sue him...ha ha haaaaa
I guess Nike will be refunding money to all of the customers who bought Armstrong endorsed products then as well ?
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well if he doped or not i do not give a fuck, the guy seems to help cancer patients and that means more than if he doped or not. Just my fucking 2 cents... ;)
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In Austin Lance was considered a living legend. He is a demi god. He brought cycling to the mainstream. Listening to talk radio off and on over the last few days the consensus seems to be that he lied, he made commercials for Nike inferring he was clean, the evidence is overwhelming he doped and not only doped, spear headed the doping ring. While there will be a few who idolize him no matter what, I get the sense the vast majority have lost a lot of respect for him. For me, he knew the rules, and I gave up the "well everybody else does it" excuse when I was 10, I expect he should have also. You take your chances, you pay the consequences. Time for him to pay
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He should come out and say: "I was the best athelete out of a completely juiced lineup." People know that pro cyclists are juiced, they were just tired of Lance having a holier than thou attitude about it all.
All pro sports require juicing. I wouldn't be surprised if the ping pong team uses performance drugs.
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All pro sports require juicing. I wouldn't be surprised if the ping pong team uses performance drugs.
lol at require.
But certainly 90% of pro sportsmen dope.
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so, he gets to keep all the money right?
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Greatest cyclist that has EVER lived......
Not his fucking fault the sport is a cesspool that has proven unable to police itself.
Merckx is a much better cyclist.
He raced all year.
And had the hour record.
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Nike said BYE Lance
LANCE says FUCK YOU NIKE
spottted sportin' a pair of ASICS while jogging in Texas this past weekend
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/10/22/1022-lance-armstrong-splash-5.jpg)
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He is wearing his shorts waaaaay too low.
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fuck lance, maybe it will help people wake up
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So now that his titles were stripped who wins it? Because you know the next 100 competitors also used drugs.
They should strip Usain Bolts titles as well it is almost guaranteed he used performance enhancement. You don't run a time that good without enhancement. His 6'-4" is not enough to do it naturally.
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Thats fine no matter how many times you pass it down, it will inevitably end up with a black.
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Thats fine no matter how many times you pass it down, it will inevitably end up with a black.
Yes earth mother africana is who all of the fair creatures of the biosphere evolved from.
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Nike said BYE Lance
LANCE says FUCK YOU NIKE
spottted sportin' a pair of ASICS while jogging in Texas this past weekend
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/10/22/1022-lance-armstrong-splash-5.jpg)
He looks flustered, hairy legs, sunken face, emaciated legs, a small increase in body fat. The pressure of not being looked at as 'holier than thou' anymore must be driving him nuts. No matter what his net worth is, he must feel very poor now.
(no homo)
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So now that his titles were stripped who wins it? Because you know the next 100 competitors also used drugs.
They should strip Usain Bolts titles as well it is almost guaranteed he used performance enhancement. You don't run a time that good without enhancement. His 6'-4" is not enough to do it naturally.
Nobody is being awarded the titles.
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Former sponsors Sue him...ha ha haaaaa
I guess Nike will be refunding money to all of the customers who bought Armstrong endorsed products then as well ?
All depends on what the sponsors had in fine print of his contract. There's been talk about his PED use for well over a decade now. Some sponsors could have a special clause in an agreement. The interesting thing is would Lance Armstrong sign such an agreement knowing he was dirty.
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All depends on what the sponsors had in fine print of his contract. There's been talk about his PED use for well over a decade now. Some sponsors could have a special clause in an agreement. The interesting thing is would Lance Armstrong sign such an agreement knowing he was dirty.
The American civil court system would love to get Lance in the court room. Some of those judges/Lawyers have a bigger ego than Lance.
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The American civil court system would love to get Lance in the court room. Some of those judges/Lawyers have a bigger ego than Lance.
I'm sure Nike wants no part of a lawsuit, they made plenty of money off of him. It could get ugly for all involved. I'm sure they well let Armstrong just fade into Bolivian
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The second place finisher must be pissed.
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Every tour-de-france participant of the last 40 yrs did some kinda gear. Lance trained like a beast, had beast-genetics and was the deserved winner.
LANCE RULES
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Every tour-de-france participant of the last 40 yrs did some kinda gear. Lance trained like a beast, had beast-genetics and was the deserved winner.
LANCE RULES
(http://ratetees.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/honey-badger-dont-care-t-shirt.jpg)
He also could afford the best doctor.. not entirely an even playing field
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The Beaver is the
hardest working and most diligent animal in the animal kingdom.
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He also could afford the best doctor.. not entirely an even playing field
It's about teams, there were lotsa teams with the same money. And they all knew about each other. It's really amazing this bullshit.
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Thats fine no matter how many times you pass it down, it will inevitably end up with a black.
Hey wiggs did you skip my post or just chose to ignor it :)
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worst thing is, besides lance , i couldnt name any other cyclist if you had a gun to my head.
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worst thing is, besides lance , i couldnt name any other cyclist if you had a gun to my head.
That's because the rest are all clean, except Lance and his cronies.
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That's because the rest are all clean, except Lance and his cronies.
Did you read the picture?
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None of the top guys are clean.. If your doing the tour de France your drugged.. Simple fact..
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Did you read the picture?
It won't load
I was clearly joking
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worst thing is, besides lance , i couldnt name any other cyclist if you had a gun to my head.
It wasn`t until 2009 that I realized that a man that landed on the moon would be to old to get ball cancer.
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Horrible example, everyone I have ever met thinks Ben Johnson is a living legend, everyone I have ever met know and says Ben has changed the game, everyone I have ever met thinks Ben is a hero and everyone I ever met thinks Lewis is a whiny bitch cry baby who could not hack it at Ben's level, Ben will always be remembered, Lewis is forgotten, no one talks about him everyone talks about Ben.
Lance will be a legacy and no one will even talk about any other cyclist.
no one talks about lewis, everyone talks about ben... uhhh, ok, if you say so.
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I'm sure Nike wants no part of a lawsuit, they made plenty of money off of him. It could get ugly for all involved. I'm sure they well let Armstrong just fade into Bolivian
Fade into bolivian? He's gay too?
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no one talks about lewis, everyone talks about ben... uhhh, ok, if you say so.
well fine 5 people talk about Lewis and Billions talk about Ben, either way no one is as popular as Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson is the first thing that comes to mind when anyone thinks of "runners"
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well fine 5 people talk about Lewis and Billions talk about Ben, either way no one is as popular as Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson is the first thing that comes to mind when anyone thinks of "runners"
really? how may gold medals did Jesse Owens win in 1936?
who won the 100 m sprint in 1972?
can you answer those two questions w/o looking it up?
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really? how may gold medals did Jesse Owens win in 1936?
who won the 100 m sprint in 1972?
can you answer those two questions w/o looking it up?
nope and no one else can either and that is why Ben is far more popular then any you mentioned, thanks for proving my point
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Five time Tour de France winner, Miguel Indurain supports Lance.
Cycling: Five-time Tour de France winner Miguel Indurain believes Lance Armstrong is not guilty of doping despite the evidence produced by the US Anti-Doping Agency (Usada).
“Even now I believe in his innocence. He has always respected all the rules,” Indurain, who won the Tour from 1991-95, was quoted as telling Radio Marca.
“I’m a bit surprised. It’s a bit strange that this was only based on testimonies,” he added in reference to Usada’s 1,000-page report featuring testimonies from 11 former Armstrong team-mates.
One of those team-mates, Tyler Hamilton, has blasted International Cycling Union (UCI) president Pat McQuaid, saying the Irishman has “no place” in the sport.
McQuaid had described Hamilton and Floyd Landis, who also testified against Armstrong, as “scumbags” on Monday after the UCI ratified the US Anti-Doping Agency’s (Usada) decision to strip Armstrong of his seven Tour de France titles.
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Company that paid Lance Armstrong bonuses wants money back
By Corrie MacLaggan
AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - A Texas promotional company that paid millions of dollars to Lance Armstrong for winning the Tour de France said on Monday it was considering legal action to get the money back after the American cyclist was stripped of his Tour titles.
Armstrong had his seven Tour de France victories nullified and was banned for life on Monday after the International Cycling Union (UCI) ratified the United States Anti-Doping Agency's (USADA) sanctions against him.
Dallas-based SCA Promotions paid Armstrong $7.5 million for winning his sixth Tour title in 2004 - $5 million as a performance bonus and $2.5 million in interest and attorney fees - as part of a 2006 legal settlement. Armstrong had sued SCA when it withheld the payment after doping allegations against him surfaced.
Tailwind Sports, the owner of Armstrong's U.S. Postal team, had promised the cyclist a $5 million bonus if he won a sixth Tour title and it took out insurance coverage with SCA.
In all, SCA Promotions paid Armstrong some $12 million, the company's lawyer Jeffrey Dorough said.
It was unclear exactly how much SCA may seek to recover.
"Mr. Armstrong is no longer the official winner of any Tour de France races, and as a result it is inappropriate and improper for him to retain any bonus payments made by SCA," Dorough said in a statement.
He said SCA Promotions was "digesting the UCI's decision" and that the company was taking into consideration the possibility that Armstrong or the World Anti-Doping Agency could appeal.
Earlier this month, USADA published a report on Armstrong that said the now-retired rider had been involved in the "most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen."
"I was sickened by what I read in the USADA report," UCI President Pat McQuaid said on Monday.
Armstrong, 41, who has denied doping, had previously elected not to contest the USADA charges, prompting USADA to propose his punishment pending confirmation from cycling's world governing body.
Armstrong, widely considered one of the greatest cyclists of all time, says he has never failed a doping test.
He said he had stopped contesting the charges after years of probes and rumors because "there comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'Enough is enough.'"
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nope and no one else can either and that is why Ben is far more popular then any you mentioned, thanks for proving my point
oh please, i'm willing to wager that most people in this thread know that owens and lewis won 4 gold medals each... no one remembers who won the sprint in 1972, same fate will befall the guy who initially won in 1988, only he has notoriety for getting busted.
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oh please, i'm willing to wager that most people in this thread know that owens and lewis won 4 gold medals each... no one remembers who won the sprint in 1972, same fate will befall the guy who initially won in 1988, only he has notoriety for getting busted.
If you are even for a split second suggesting Lewis is even a tenth as popular as Ben this conversation is over, I will not debate with a delusional clown.
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Hey wiggs did you skip my post or just chose to ignor it :)
Which post stud?
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Five time Tour de France winner, Miguel Indurain supports Lance.
Cycling: Five-time Tour de France winner Miguel Indurain believes Lance Armstrong is not guilty of doping despite the evidence produced by the US Anti-Doping Agency (Usada).
“Even now I believe in his innocence. He has always respected all the rules,” Indurain, who won the Tour from 1991-95, was quoted as telling Radio Marca.
“I’m a bit surprised. It’s a bit strange that this was only based on testimonies,” he added in reference to Usada’s 1,000-page report featuring testimonies from 11 former Armstrong team-mates.
One of those team-mates, Tyler Hamilton, has blasted International Cycling Union (UCI) president Pat McQuaid, saying the Irishman has “no place” in the sport.
McQuaid had described Hamilton and Floyd Landis, who also testified against Armstrong, as “scumbags” on Monday after the UCI ratified the US Anti-Doping Agency’s (Usada) decision to strip Armstrong of his seven Tour de France titles.
INDURAIN OMERTA in full effect. He should keep quiet... he hooked up LA with Ferrari, in the first place way back when Miguel was duking it out with Riis. Riis later confessed to doping during his 1996 Tour win. As the doping chainring turns....
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Which post stud?
;D... you know I think your the coolest right? 8) but..................... ........................ ... ;)
Quote from: Wiggs on October 22, 2012, 01:57:47 PM
Listen up morons that includes you too Yaroni. Where's your proof EVERYONE was juiced? Exactly, you have none. No doubt in my mind most were. But to call it an "even playing field" is blasphemous.
The judgement has been made. Lance is a zero time Tour De France winner and is banned from cycling. In other words, anything he did in cycling, NEVER HAPPENED. So with that, it should be treated as such an anyone on this board making reference to titles he never won or feats he never accomplished should be TO and their IP account banned. In addition, I'd like to keep a records of all said individuals to report to Department of Homeland Security or the equivalent in their country and the UCI for investigation.
Your delusion has surpassed Tbombz and Vince G, You would have looked better by saying you believe in Santa Clause
The truth of the matter is the real scumbag and low lifes are the ones that are doing this to him, they are a part of a giant deception as big as Hitlers and they are making billions of dollars deceiving the public with their anti doping shit that 99% of athletes get away with,...
take Wiggs for example, he is already a victim of this corrupt system, he thinks that many up there are not chemically enhanced, once you believe this non-sense it is like having an amputated soul, no cure, I would rather have AIDS then the disease Wiggs is plagued with, completely horrifying
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Your delusion has surpassed Tbombz and Vince G, You would have looked better by saying you believe in Santa Clause
Santa Clause is real... Why wouldn't I believe in him?
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Ronnie never failed a drug test
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Don´t want to sound like a fucking Bum boy but the guy doped or not was an outstanding athlete. I do not know what sort of guy he is.. maybe he loves himself.. but i love my good looks too.. ;D I believe he had cancer and now helps people and that is for me more important. They are making an example of the Guy.. think of all the "good guys" who also made a buck out of his name?
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nope and no one else can either and that is why Ben is far more popular then any you mentioned, thanks for proving my point
Without looking I'd say 4 golds for Jesse and the 1972 sprints were won by a white guy, so i'm going with Valeri Borzov for the 100/200 double.
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Another Tour winner backing Lance.
Contador says Armstrong being "humiliated and lynched"
PARIS (Reuters) - Spaniard Alberto Contador expressed support on Wednesday for disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong saying the American was being "humiliated and lynched" by doping accusations which have led to the stripping of his seven Tour de France titles.
"It seems to me that at certain times and in certain places Lance is not being treated with any respect," Contador, a double Tour champion who returned from a two-year doping ban in August, told reporters in Paris at the presentation of the 2013 edition of the race.
"He is being humiliated and lynched, in my opinion. He is being destroyed," the Saxo Bank-Tinkoff rider, who had a difficult relationship with Armstrong when they were team mates at Astana, was quoted as saying by Spanish media.
"Right now people are talking about Lance but there has not been any new test or anything," Contador added. "It's based exclusively on witness statements that could have existed in 2005.
"I respect each rider's decision but I would have liked it to happen a bit earlier."
Armstrong was stripped of his 1999-2005 Tour victories on Monday when the International Cycling Union (UCI) ratified the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency's decision to erase his results from August, 1998 .
Armstrong, who fought back from cancer to dominate the sport, has always denied doping and says he has never failed a drugs test.
"What there is (in terms of evidence) I don't know, what I do know is that if cycling is popular in the United States it's thanks to him," Contador said.
"If they know over there what the Tour is it's thanks to him, if there are top-level teams and races in his country it's thanks to him."
Contador said the current testing was regime was adequate as a means of preventing illegal doping, Contador said.
"There is little that needs to be changed at the moment. The tests we have are as rigorous as possible, we have to be able to be located at all times," he said.
"There will be people who will have doubts, given everything that has come out, and I understand it.
"I say to them that they should believe completely that riders win races without help, also on the Tour."
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C'mon dudes...Lance is the quintessential getbigger. 8)
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Some of his sponsors are already asking for money back. Should get interesting...
http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/story/_/id/8537796/texas-insurance-firm-asks-lance-armstrong-repay-75-million-bonuses
That's some serious horseshit right there. You sign a guy to a contract, you honor the contract. You can't go back and revise history afterwards (unless you're the USADA!).
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Yeah, how about them! ;D
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That's some serious horseshit right there. You sign a guy to a contract, you honor the contract. You can't go back and revise history afterwards (unless you're the USADA!).
Depends whats written in the contract. A lot of life insurance policies don't pay out if it's a suicide or drug related death. So if someone wanted to sponsor Lance after all the drug allegations in the late 90's on up, it's possible that a sponsor may have a clause in the contract.
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Don´t want to sound like a fucking Bum boy but the guy doped or not was an outstanding athlete. I do not know what sort of guy he is.. maybe he loves himself.. but i love my good looks too.. ;D I believe he had cancer and now helps people and that is for me more important. They are making an example of the Guy.. think of all the "good guys" who also made a buck out of his name?
Of course he was. Can't imagine other cyclists think any less of him. The problem is they can't say that.
I think everyone (fans & general public) should accept that passing the tests is and has been part of the sport for over two decades now...and that this whole case against Lance will just mean the medical staff and those managing these teams will change their strategy.
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Doctor Ferrari