:o wow already looks very dry for 12 weeks
This is a man that hates calf raises.
This is a man that hates calf raises.
Delt looks suspect.
Other than a site injection he has striations so no oil there.
(http://s9.postimg.org/hjnec12j3/Screen_Shot_2013_06_25_at_20_09_21.png)his calves are decent
Always look at pictures upside down, weak legs/calfs jump right out at you.
his calves are decentTake the rest of his body down to the level of his calfs and he wouldnt win a local beach contest.
his calves are decent
but not proportionate
thighs disgustingly overgrown
upperbody full of oil
Do calf really matter to the judges? Seems like it doesn't.
It doesnt, but it should.
What's your point? Do the same for Ronnie and neither would he. Although they should be, calves don't win you or cost you shows.
If Ramy wins the O, (I don't think he will. He will not beat Phil and he won't beat Kai, they are just too far ahead of him right now) it will be bigger than Ronnie's first O.
he will probably place 7th or 8th, hes not going to crack the top 6 on his first olympia
What's your point? Do the same for Ronnie and neither would he. Although they should be, calves don't win you or cost you shows.
If Ramy wins the O, (I don't think he will. He will not beat Phil and he won't beat Kai, they are just too far ahead of him right now) it will be bigger than Ronnie's first O.
There is no oil in this guy.possible
My point is calves should matter but the judges dont give a fuck about them.
Do you need it spelling out?
What's your point? Do the same for Ronnie and neither would he. Although they should be, calves don't win you or cost you shows.
If Ramy wins the O, (I don't think he will. He will not beat Phil and he won't beat Kai, they are just too far ahead of him right now) it will be bigger than Ronnie's first O.
we have dexter jackson, phil heath, kai greene, dennis wolfe, shawn rhoden, tony freeman, branch warren, brandon curry, jay cutler, victor martinezYour prediction on the top 6 at the O this year cs?
Your prediction on the top 6 at the O this year cs?heath
man i dont follow it like that, but you have to give it to the top guys something like this in no orderWhat no Wolf...? Top 6.
Phil
Kai
dexter Jackson
Jay Cutler
Rhoden
Brandon Curry
reverse racism, they are going to have to hold down the great white hype!
There is no oil in this guy.Yeah, because round ass 99-2000 Flex Wheeler Delts with no separation or striations is very normal? Please that man drains tankers of oil.
curry is very aesthetic
very proportionate
just somehow always looks 16 weeks out
He's taken the Ronnie and Dexter stance on calves. "Fuck it".No, it's the grow on boatload of drugs...when he competed last yr against other ME competitors, it was noticeable...and in fact he was bigger, but he didn't have the quality like the others had.
Curry's legs are small compared to the rest of him.i think he has excellent proportions and a small waist, great arms as well
we have dexter jackson, phil heath, kai greene, dennis wolfe, shawn rhoden, tony freeman, branch warren, brandon curry, jay cutler, victor martinez, wiggs heres 10 guys and ramy has to place better than 4 of them, i dont see that on his first olympia, unless there is a conspiracy to get him up to the top overnight, so they can hype up a whole new arena and demographic.
wiggs do you not agree with the logic i went with here, in reality I dont see Ramy cracking top 6 his first olympia, remember the year everyone thought gunter beat ronnie, he placed 6th or 5th, whatever it was, maybe 3rd.... lol
If Ramy comes in better condition than the NY pro and I believe he will just how much better is anyones guess. He will not beat Phil and he will not beat Kai. He will beat Rhoden. Much bigger and a better back. And with Ramy having a small waist himself it's not as big of an advantage. He will beat Wolf. They are very comparable. Both are 5'11. Both are mass monsters. Both have small waists. Both have small calves. But Ramy beats him on back. Everyone knows Dennis' lower back has been a weak point...and it still is. Ramy doesn't have this problem. His back is very good on the verge of great. It's very complete from top to bottom in both back poses. He can take it to the freak level as time goes on, he is only 27. But I have no doubt sans health issues when it's all said and done he will have one of the best backs ever. Dorian and Ronnie like. Everything is already there. It's just conditioning and maturing of the muscle and thinning of the skin. He will beat Branch nuff said lol.. He will beat Victor again but even worse this time. He will beat Freeman. Freeman is 6'1 or 6'2 and competes around 260-270. Ok, Kai is 5'8 and competes at 260. See how stringy Kai and Jay also at 5'8 make Freeman look. Freeman is tall but he is not blessed with the genetics of Paul Dillet who also at 270-280 at his best but had smaller joints and better frame looked like a comic book character but Freeman doesn't have this look. He can look stringy at times depending on his weight. His back isn't the greatest it's just the way he's built. To me he is a tall Dexter. Speaking of Dexter, Ramy is just too big. for Dexter. Dexter can beat him on conditioning but as Ramy improves his conditioning, with his size, it's just too much for Dex. It's too much right now. So now I eliminated everyone but Phil and Kai which I don't think he can beat. He needs more refinement to compete with them. They are much more detailed and separated and conditioned than him from the back. They are on another level and I don't think there's a chance in hell he can make those changes between the end of the NY Pro and the end of September. It's a maturity thing at this point. He's gonna be an absolute freak by the time he's 33-34!
ramy will not beat, dexter, phil, kai, jay, or anyone else in top shape............if he does props to him, this is the mr. olympia, not the iron man pro.
If Ramy and Phil are both "on" Phil still wins.
I said that already. But take away all his muscle down to the level of his calves? lol. Who does that?Me, its how I judge balanced physiques.
If they're both on Ramy wins. He's taller and 45lbs more muscle. It's gonna be so laughable how narrow Ramy makes Phil look. People are gonna laugh and think, poor Phil. Ramy is Phil's worst nightmare because he's younger and bigger and almost complete. In two years Phil will not be able to beat Ramy anymore. We just have to see how much he progresses between shows since NY was his first.
who gives a fuck
Me, its how I judge balanced physiques.Wiggs is criticizing Heath for being narrow for his size but objects to you criticizing Ramys poor calves. I'm confused.
For the first time in a while I think I'm excited about the Olympia.
Yes, Ramy will kill Dexter. Does Phil beat Dex on conditioning? NO! Does he on size? Not really so Ramy standing next to Dexter will literally dwarf him. As far as size Ramy is the closest thing we have since Ronnie and Kai is nowhere near the size of Ronnie especially in the leg department. Check out pics of Kai and Ronnie and you will see. Ramy will also dwarf Kai.
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Always look at pictures upside down, weak legs/calfs jump right out at you.
Balanced physiques look good any way up.
Rami will disappear as quickly as he came on the scene, he wont last.
where do you think Ramy will place? Higher than Jay?
That's what was said about Ronnie. Ramy is young and will be around a while if he choses. All these guys are pushing max doses.
A contest pic is better then. Ronnie also had huge thighs compared to calfs offseason.
Was it? I don't recall that. But Ramy is still lacking the details compared to phil. Phil has way better separation. Ramy needs to work on his detail and he will be killer. If I recall seeing some photos. Phil destroyed Ramy from the back.
A contest pic is better then.Which shows just how bad his back really is, especially for this level. Looking at it upside down...the "lower" which is now upper back, is non-existent. The rest of the back lacks thickness and detail, especially for someone of his weight.
This is a man that hates calf raises.I hear Ronnie hated them too , just filled them with oil and took 8 olympias ::)
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Just posting a random photo I googled for discussion.
Personally, I think Kai won last year and Phil extremely close second and Kai probably will be the best this year again if he comes in on.
Officially, Phil will win again no doubt in my mind. He'd have to come in way off.
I don't think Ramy will even get to stand next to Phil for a decent comparison shot.
Lots of upside-down oiled-up men in thongs in this thread.
He still looks unbalanced, once you turn the photos upside down your eyes are drawn to the calves and legs.
The fact that Ronnie had no calves and was winning the Olympia just highlights the problem, Dexter had shit calves as well.
kai blatantly won last year.......
I really want phil to lose... hes a whiny cocky arrogant guy....
in the koran it states
'the calf is the musclle of the infidel- if you want your 70 virgins avoid the raise of the calf, or boyer coe's calf shoes- and his wig- all the work of the infidel'
I may be paraphrasing here................
this is what i expected of Zack Khan ,
but king khan is just happy making videos
Road to recovery video # 651581651561616815615611 651561984651056189610564 196813519746465548944654 867894641488949874
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For the first time in a while I think I'm excited about the Olympia.
Sorry bro, you're wrong. He will def. be in the top 6.
Olympia judging is bullshit anyways. If Phil is 80-100% and so is Kai and if Ramy comes in and is 100% and noticeably superior, they will still give it to Phil and make up some excuse why Ramy didn't win.
Olympia judging is bullshit anyways. If Phil is 80-100% and so is Kai and if Ramy comes in and is 100% and noticeably superior, they will still give it to Phil and make up some excuse why Ramy didn't win.
Olympia judging is bullshit anyways. If Phil is 80-100% and so is Kai and if Ramy comes in and is 100% and noticeably superior, they will still give it to Phil and make up some excuse why Ramy didn't win.
If Ramy comes in better condition than the NY pro and I believe he will just how much better is anyones guess. He will not beat Phil and he will not beat Kai. He will beat Rhoden. Much bigger and a better back. And with Ramy having a small waist himself it's not as big of an advantage. He will beat Wolf. They are very comparable. Both are 5'11. Both are mass monsters. Both have small waists. Both have small calves. But Ramy beats him on back. Everyone knows Dennis' lower back has been a weak point...and it still is. Ramy doesn't have this problem. His back is very good on the verge of great. It's very complete from top to bottom in both back poses. He can take it to the freak level as time goes on, he is only 27. But I have no doubt sans health issues when it's all said and done he will have one of the best backs ever. Dorian and Ronnie like. Everything is already there. It's just conditioning and maturing of the muscle and thinning of the skin. He will beat Branch nuff said lol.. He will beat Victor again but even worse this time. He will beat Freeman. Freeman is 6'1 or 6'2 and competes around 260-270. Ok, Kai is 5'8 and competes at 260. See how stringy Kai and Jay also at 5'8 make Freeman look. Freeman is tall but he is not blessed with the genetics of Paul Dillet who also at 270-280 at his best but had smaller joints and better frame looked like a comic book character but Freeman doesn't have this look. He can look stringy at times depending on his weight. His back isn't the greatest it's just the way he's built. To me he is a tall Dexter. Speaking of Dexter, Ramy is just too big. for Dexter. Dexter can beat him on conditioning but as Ramy improves his conditioning, with his size, it's just too much for Dex. It's too much right now. So now I eliminated everyone but Phil and Kai which I don't think he can beat. He needs more refinement to compete with them. They are much more detailed and separated and conditioned than him from the back. They are on another level and I don't think there's a chance in hell he can make those changes between the end of the NY Pro and the end of September. It's a maturity thing at this point. He's gonna be an absolute freak by the time he's 33-34!
Jay would have to be in his prime to beat Ramy that his 2009. Otherwise he can't compete with him. He's taller than Jay, bigger legs, better chest, better arms, better back. He cant compete with Ramy anymore. Ramy is on his way up and 13 years younger than Jay. Jay is on his way down.
ramy wont crack top 6, if he does its politicsHe will definitely crack the top 6!
For the first time in a while I think I'm excited about the Olympia.x2
Other than a site injection he has striations so no oil there.
It's crazy to say he will make Kai look like his little brother.My comment was based on size alone, not what body part is better then what. Anyone who has seen Ramy in person will tell you he is way bigger then Kai, as big as Kai is he will still look like Ramy's little brother
Better back- Kai, Better arms- Kai, Better legs- Kai, Better chest- Kai. Go look at the guest posing pics where he made a 280 pound Cutler and all the other pros look like amateurs. Ramy hasn't done anything to warrant being mentioned as a Mr O yet.
I have to get in on this thread.
Ok this is how it goes, 10% chance he is outside the top 3, he outsizes everyone and yes will make kai look like his little brother.
In this conditioning and a small waist with insane flair in his sweep at this far out you know one thing and that is he is aiming for conditioning above all else., he will go toe to toe with Phil and end up in second cause Phil's too shredded and Phil will be striated from head to toe.
Can he win? yes but unlikely, I give him a 20% chance though and my card is that he will be second out of no where like Jay did in 01
You guys have no idea the sheer size of this guy, he is a freak of nature, he makes the giants of bodybuilding look tiny and standing next to Jay and Wolf will only benefit him as he out muscles them by a mile with a small waist and the greatest quad sweep ever seen.
This is just how it works, haters get over it. 8)
don't you think the politics are more important than how he lookshe is in a league of his own, politics could come into play but he is already in contract with Flex and crew and he will be heavily sponsored come Olympia as he is the biggest hype everywhere so politics are also on his side.
I think they will give him 5th
Yeah, because round ass 99-2000 Flex Wheeler Delts with no separation or striations is very normal? Please that man drains tankers of oil.
wont crack top 6, if he does its all politics, theres never been a first time olympian crack top 6 in long time
yeah 2 guys in last how many years, i said there hasnt been many..........for me rhoden was a political move.
yeah 2 guys in last how many years, i said there hasnt been many..........for me rhoden was a political move.3rd place on 1st mro is a big deal,i mean rhoden at this time I think can't go 1/2 ,I can't see a 3rd place again with a deep top 10 possible,i could be wrong,he looks great but vince taylor was 3rd once and he never was a top 2 or even 3rd again if memory serves me ..
wont crack top 6, if he does its all politics, theres never been a first time olympian crack top 6 in long time
that was about 20 years ago
ask gunter, he will differ
wont crack top 6, if he does its all politics, theres never been a first time olympian crack top 6 in long time
gunter was shit.... lets be honest, must of had a 45" whaiste, not in the same league as big rami, alah is great...
gunther looked good for maybe one or two shows in his whole career..... he was a huge lump, with a horrendous shape but a marketable smile, gave uncle joe a semi with his germaness...
very wrong
he s top 10 all time
in his best shape he s in the group of levrone
get a fucking grip,,,,, gunter is no where near the golden group of 90's fame...^^^^........This
yates, levrone, sheawn ray, nasser, cormier, dillet, flex, labrada, coleman, haney even ..etc etc etc i could add more
id put gunther in the group with the mike mataratzo's of the world
mike you still competingYup.........The All South in November
I'm with parker, dudes lateral heads are oiled up. he's wide, but not that wide.I have no idea what bodybuilder you are talking about ??? ??? ``Wide but not that wide`` WHAT? , ummmm he is the widest bodybuilder in the entire world, yes the widest, makes Wolf look narrow,
I have no idea what bodybuilder you are talking about ??? ??? ``Wide but not that wide`` WHAT? , ummmm he is the widest bodybuilder in the entire world, yes the widest, makes Wolf look narrow,
You guys just don`t get it...., this guy is 5 foot 10 and jumps on stage at 290 lb and does not have a pregnant belly, is it not incredible enough to jump on stage at those ridiculous numbers yet without a belly.
This has never been done in the history of mankind, this guy is bringing bodybuilding into knew territory, there is no one like him ever, his quad sweep is the craziest quad sweep to ever set foot on stage.
cswol, bro, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Ramy will be 2nd place in the Olympia, you guys will see.
Hahahaaaa I love this post! Well said;)
Ramy will be 2nd place in the Olympia, you guys will see.
Would love to see him in a lineup with Phil, just for the laugh about how narrow Phil actually is.
I have a feeling the judges will not put "The Gift" through such an ordeal.
get a fucking grip,,,,, gunter is no where near the golden group of 90's fame...
yates, levrone, sheawn ray, nasser, cormier, dillet, flex, labrada, coleman, haney even ..etc etc etc i could add more
id put gunther in the group with the mike mataratzo's of the world
cedric mcmillan didnt qualify for the olympia did he
cedric mcmillan didnt qualify for the olympia did heyes he won fibo pro
Cswol, $50 gentleman's bet Ramy is top 4 at the Olympia.X2 THERE YOU GO SCWOLL 100 DOLLARS IN YOUR POCKET. ;)
man i wouldnt want to take your money bro
man we can just do a bet for bragging rights, the howard cosell of bodybuilding title
man yeah money in my pocket, but i rather just see the results and then type the hell out of posts on getbig............lolHe will be second
I have no idea what bodybuilder you are talking about ??? ??? ``Wide but not that wide`` WHAT? , ummmm he is the widest bodybuilder in the entire world, yes the widest, makes Wolf look narrow,
You guys just don`t get it...., this guy is 5 foot 10 and jumps on stage at 290 lb and does not have a pregnant belly, is it not incredible enough to jump on stage at those ridiculous numbers yet without a belly.
This has never been done in the history of mankind, this guy is bringing bodybuilding into knew territory, there is no one like him ever, his quad sweep is the craziest quad sweep to ever set foot on stage.
cswol, bro, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Ramy will be 2nd place in the Olympia, you guys will see.
I'm not sure what this has to do wIth his oiled up delts, but ...ok, i guess.who doesn't have oil in there delts, it's a mute point but my comment was referring to you saying that the widest bodybuilder on the planet is not that wide 8)
Man one time, your on the ramy bandwagon navigating all the way to VegasI call it how I see it. Does it put food on my table if he wins the O? NO, if he comes in last, do I give a shit? No, but he will come in second at the O and that's how I see it. ;) ;)
I saw Big Ramy lifting before the NY Pro and was not impressed at all! He used just hammer strength machines(no free weights). Kai greene owns Big ramy ! Kai is so much stronger then Big ramy when dieting. I know bodybuilders strength goes down when they are a few days out but ramy could barely lift! I have seen Kai 5 days out still benching 550lbs for reps. Ramys joints looked like they were going to tear!to much winstrol or too much of something!Bro who knows more about hormones then you? no one so you know full well why he trains like that with his slin protocol, when you enter slin territory it is no longer about heavy weight it's about gorging the individual muscle with as much blood as humanly possible.
Bro who knows more about hormones then you? no one so you know full well why he trains like that with his slin protocol, when you enter slin territory it is no longer about heavy weight it's about gorging the individual muscle with as much blood as humanly possible.
Lot's of meltdowns about which glittery thong will claim the throne.
lol, schlierkampf looked like shit, sorry, just bc he was heavy and shredded doesnt mean he looked good.I really like rhoden and no i'm not counting him out gali..but jay comes back he has to end up somewhere if in top shape top 5 ,that could leave rhoden from 3rd to 5th or 6th in a deep field.he looked amazing in the offseason pic few wks back added size,he could take it if he blows heath and kai away with added size and sharp condition,heath comes in shape always tough build to beat right now,like I said vince taylor was genetic marvel and was hot in 1991 won every show took 3rd in mro and that was it till master mro wins for him.taylor is/was better than rhoden no??
he had god awful structural problems, waist was something you see on birth happy women.
he made the best out of what he got by nature, that deserves respect ofc.
yes this olympia im excited about ,i totaly stopped caring for a while, but with last year phil only winning over kai bc hes the standing champ(this win was like last warning, if kai comes that good again he will have to be placed over phil)and now the rami guy, if he hits the condition and it looks like he will do easily, this gonna be very good.
nycflex, i dont see why you dont give rhoden more chances, he hasa structure which cant get messed up, and he knows howto consistently come in sharp.
either kai or phil at not 100% could easy lose against an in shape rhoden
all you ramy band wagoneers are going to be disappointed come olympia finals.............no ramy in top 6
jay has 4 more olympias in him
get a fucking grip,,,,, gunter is no where near the golden group of 90's fame...
yates, levrone, sheawn ray, nasser, cormier, dillet, flex, labrada, coleman, haney even ..etc etc etc i could add more
id put gunther in the group with the mike mataratzo's of the world
I saw Big Ramy lifting before the NY Pro and was not impressed at all! He used just hammer strength machines(no free weights). Kai greene owns Big ramy ! Kai is so much stronger then Big ramy when dieting. I know bodybuilders strength goes down when they are a few days out but ramy could barely lift! I have seen Kai 5 days out still benching 550lbs for reps. Ramys joints looked like they were going to tear!to much winstrol or too much of something!
lol, schlierkampf looked like shit, sorry, just bc he was heavy and shredded doesnt mean he looked good.
he had god awful structural problems, waist was something you see on birth happy women.
he made the best out of what he got by nature, that deserves respect ofc.
yes this olympia im excited about ,i totaly stopped caring for a while, but with last year phil only winning over kai bc hes the standing champ(this win was like last warning, if kai comes that good again he will have to be placed over phil)and now the rami guy, if he hits the condition and it looks like he will do easily, this gonna be very good.
nycflex, i dont see why you dont give rhoden more chances, he hasa structure which cant get messed up, and he knows howto consistently come in sharp.
either kai or phil at not 100% could easy lose against an in shape rhoden
Would love to see him in a lineup with Phil, just for the laugh about how narrow Phil actually is..
Oh no, at 100percent he was mr o material , at 95 percent he beat 95 percent Coleman in 2002
Don t forget, all the other years he dreamt of being an actor, and didn t go full bore like the now dead or kidneyless competitors of this era
.^ Lol!
I will destroy tiny man
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I will destroy tiny man
hm i prefer taylor over rhoden too.AGREE on ur points,thats why I directed to you and used vince taylor as example or wheeler like rhoden rose up quick has nice lines/shape but as with all 3 getting too big will hurt the look they achieved,vince taylor weighed 208 in 91 mr o and went up to 230/240 later on same as wheeler218/220 to over 240 and look what happened..rhodens I forgot his contest weight.
taylr would have deserved the title, but was active in the aera of absolute genetic gifted freakshow.
but from structure and bellies hes the most pleasing,next to wheeler.
in todays field however, rhoden is better than vince taylor for simple lack of good competition.
true, almost impossible to beat phil, he always comes in extremly sharp,its unbelieveable(lol at pplsaying he looks smoth btw)and hasnt gut problems, while kai if he comes with gut i can see him being beat by rhoden.
rami is random, we will see how he does,esp in conditioning department compared to the top guys.
being big is one thing, fux was big too, but beating phil on conditioning i dont see anyone pulling that off.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996161_552155458166171_1548876292_n.jpg)from the back kai greene looks inhuman,,,
from the back kai greene looks inhuman,,,
The deal is Ramy might be in the top 6. Branch if on still looks like shit but the judges love him and will put him in the top 3. Cutler is a wild card, can be 2 down to 6 but won't get lower. Wolf will get a lot of comparisons to Ramy, they can battle for 5th or 6th. Kai and Heath will get the majority of comparisons. Dexter if thick and on again will be considered for 3rd or 4th. Ramy has a big hill to climb and I don't mean down hill.THATS MY POINT,,FEW PEOPLE HERE ARE SAYING 2ND IS HIS...DEEP FIELD MRO IF ALL IN SHAPE,,,
The only people Ramy won't beat this year are Phil, Kai and maybe, Dexter depending on how Dex and Ramy looks.
Off topic but there's no way Jay should beat Dexter but it will probably happen.
I saw Big Ramy lifting before the NY Pro and was not impressed at all! He used just hammer strength machines(no free weights). Kai greene owns Big ramy ! Kai is so much stronger then Big ramy when dieting. I know bodybuilders strength goes down when they are a few days out but ramy could barely lift! I have seen Kai 5 days out still benching 550lbs for reps. Ramys joints looked like they were going to tear!to much winstrol or too much of something!
Big Ramy is def ALL DRUGS
he has no strength foundation like Kai who has been lifitng heavy iron for years
take Ramy off all the drugs and he shrinks to nothing
Ramy is an elite genetic responder to steroids
i would bet off season, pre contest Ramy trains liek heath , light weight, machines, pumping high reps
Big Ramy is def ALL DRUGSyou said nothing at all here, like you just found out there is no Santa, this is the name of game and that's how they play.
he has no strength foundation like Kai who has been lifitng heavy iron for years
take Ramy off all the drugs and he shrinks to nothing
Ramy is an elite genetic responder to steroids
i would bet off season, pre contest Ramy trains liek heath , light weight, machines, pumping high reps
wtf, are you fucken trolling here ??? peptides lmao
Don't be so hard on the guy.
I see what he means: Ramy has no foundation like Kai. Can't deny that. Those muscles aren't real. No density, no maturity. Anyone can see it. He's a blow up doll and his weight claim is exaggerated. He LOOKS like 280 on stage because he is blown up. I don't think he's even 270. Heath (also a blow up doll) is 238 and also LOOKS bigger.
I don't agree with the statement that he's just a good steroid responder. Nothing to do with steroids! We're talking peptides here! Massive abuse of peptides!
Ramy has no foundation? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAlet me add to that :D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/969227_367774876656413_783105549_n.jpg)vic looks pretty wicked there as well,,,
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Go rammy go!
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Yeah, bodybuilding is all about benching 500lbs 5 days Out lol ::)
Phil has better definition in the backAnd this was Phil cruisin...
Ramy has no foundation? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA
let me add to that :D
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA
;)
People have to remember the guy already peaked once this year trying to get that condition again for the biggest show of the year is going to be very difficult
Why?
And dont just say, because it is.
Bro Science from ND and CSWOL.
Agreed wiggs
Its bollocks that someone cant peak twice a year, granted easier to just do one show but being in shape for multiple shows isnt a problem, look at Dexters record
Please find where it was said some can't peak twice a yearPlease find where I said you said it was impossible to peak twice per year ;)
And three I said it was difficult NOT impossible but it's unlikely.
I said it's much harder each time history shows this , conditioning doesn't get better the more you compete that's a fact.If you do a run of shows your condition tends to be the best for the later shows, not the earlier ones.
:)
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Please find where I said you said it was impossible to peak twice per year ;)If you do a run of shows your condition tends to be the best for the later shows, not the earlier ones.
So yes, it does get better.
You're delusional , plain and simple. don't assert that if you do a run of shows your condition gets better prove it ;) oh and I'll be waitingYou have to walk on egg shells with ukjeff and no I am not beefing you ukjeff, we are cool now remember, but it's true you (ukjeff) don't understand not accept ''concepts'' only yes and no, nothing in between, when in the real world there is no yes and no.
Fake muscle.
An arab speciality.
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Thank you for bringing some sense to this thread.
Comparison with the Dennis Wolf hype a few years ago is very good! Also no calves and a lousy back (and conditioning). Just a more compact and inflated version of Wolf without the aesthetics and density Dennis had in his prime (and with a big ugly head).
Naming him in the same sentence as Kai is an insult for Kai.
Comparison with Wolf a few years ago is very good. Also no calves and lousy back. Just a more compact and inflated version of Wolf with less density (and a big ugly head).
Mentioning him in the same sentence as Kai is an insult for Kai.
No, I thought I had lost what I had written after having an urgent interruption, so I wrote it again.
I was posting in a hurry because I have a life and business to care about. Sorry for that.
Don't be so hard on the guy.
I see what he means: Ramy has no foundation like Kai. Can't deny that. Those muscles aren't real. No density, no maturity. Anyone can see it. He's a blow up doll and his weight claim is exaggerated. He LOOKS like 280 on stage because he is blown up. I don't think he's even 270. Heath (also a blow up doll) is 238 and also LOOKS bigger.
I don't agree with the statement that he's just a good steroid responder. Nothing to do with steroids! We're talking peptides here! Massive abuse of peptides!
I know it's difficult for some people to imagine that.
HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Some people take the wrong drugs on here to get this cracked up in the head lmao
Ahmed state yours MEDICAL QUALIFICATIONS & tell us why "medical expert" likeWOW, just wow, shows how much you know, Ramy signed a contract with AMI already, lmao, oh oh foot in mouth lolooloolll, heheheheheh ;D
you ( ;D ;D ;D ;D) did not save Nasser's life :P
Ahmed + Prophet = NOTHING
Arab will NOT win AMI Mr.Olympia title , this is reserved for Christians only ;) ;) ;)
Olympia/Olympus is from CHRISTIAN terminology ;D
WOW, just wow, shows how much you know, Ramy signed a contract with AMI already, lmao, oh oh foot in mouth lolooloolll, heheheheheh ;D
.. Arab sympathizer, other arabs use to be contracted too by Weider & .........
.....as another medical "EXPERT" state yours QUALIFICATIONS :D :D :D
.......how in a fuck your "prophet" could not predict (prophet-ed ;D) anything ::)
Olympia/Olympus is from CHRISTIAN terminology
.. Arab sympathizer, other arabs use to be contracted too by Weider & .........??? ??? ??? I am a Christian so what are you babbling in about. You belong in the nut house if you think for a second that the judges or Olympia ''powers that be'' give a flying fuck what religion someone is.
.....as another medical "EXPERT" state yours QUALIFICATIONS :D :D :D
.......how in a fuck your "prophet" could not predict (prophet-ed ;D) anything ::)
??? ??? ??? I am a Christian so what are you babbling in about. You belong in the nut house if you think for a second that the judges or Olympia ''powers that be'' give a flying fuck what religion someone is.
Why try so hard to sound 'funny'?
Yeah right, still no names ;D,state medical QUALIFICATIONS ;D ;D ;Dbro I am an md, don't you know that ;D
What if 1 of my friends make decisions who wins ?.
wat
bro I am an md, don't you know that ;D
OH, big oh so we a bros NOW :P, Please don't tell me that U have Milos Sarcev'sbro, are you drunk? :-\
University degree ::)
So, "bro" check this www.abc.net.au/catalyst
Last episode "Doping to win" & enjoyed ;)
Bro this should not be about an Arab thread or Muslims, stop ruining the thread. This is a good thread and their are a lot of valid points, including yours, on bodybuilding and Ramy in particular.
Bro, don't argue with idiots with a single agenda, waste of energy :-\Is this e-kul?
bro, are you drunk? :-\
Is this e-kul?
NO of course it isn't about that but the fact is Kai is way more seasoned and to me kai is super impressive the way he lifts just days out!I don't recall one bodybuilder he can train like Kai while going through complete dieting hell!If you have dieted and gotten down to 3% BF and gone without carbs for a week or more you know how bad things can get and how weak you become. Alot of bodybuilders are almost on the virge of death when they are on-stage. Kai is so impressive because just 2-3 days out when Kai should be feeling like complete shit the man is putting up 500+ pounds on a free weight olympic bench press and also doing other heavy lifts such as rows and squats,of course he also does drop sets to flush the muscles with blood. heavier drop sets then ramy and more reps! Kai will hit 50+ reps on most lifts with perfect form and not needing alot of help from his spotter. kai is just way more seasoned then Big ramy.
Nothing against Big ramy at all! He just is not as seasoned as kai greene big deal, that does not mean Big ramy does not have a shot of winning the show. I just personally think kai is stronger and has been in the game longer. Kai and Big ramy are both amazing bodybuilders! But if you see kai in person he is just on another level then jay or any of the other Top tier pros. I wanna see big ramy in person so I can compare. Kai seems more shapely and more conditioned not to mention more entertaining. Put the grapefruit thing behind and all the other gay for pay shit behind and I think people would look at Kai with more respect. kai is the closest thing to Ronnie Coleman so far.
ya really? OK there, do you know who pays Flex Wheeler? MD does, Do you know who pays Ramy, AMI, lmao, why do you guys say stupid shit when the opposite ends up being true, why speak on a matter if you do not know what you are talking about?
You know, if you give Flex one dollar today, he will tell you anything.
And all the other guys you name: I know them as very friendly people who will, if a fan of Al Horvath asks them if he will once have a chance to win the Olympia, say yes.
How does previous placings and the way one lifts matter in a bodybuilding contest? The contestants should be judged on what they bring on stage, not what they've done previously. If Big Ramy outsizes everyone else and has great conditioning, then he should be crowned the winner.good post
Overall, his package has symmetry, he has detail relitive to the mass monsters, his conditioning is very good, not Heath's but still shows feathers in the glutes, striations in the front delt and so on. He is very dense, not mature but very dense, his muscles do not look baloonish with the exception of his delts and his gut is tiny which makes him symmetrical
There's the weak spot. Bodybuilding is not only about size and conditioning. It's also (or it should be) about lines, proportions, details, density and muscle maturity. Even if Ramy improves his conditioning (which I doubt), he's still lagging in other departments. Maybe you younger guys don't see it, but you can't judge a BB contest from a video or pics. You have to be there, where the judges are. You have to have seen Yates on stage in his prime to know what I am talking about. Bodybuilding is illusion, it's what you bring on stage on a certain moment in time. But creating that illusion is complicated and has many different aspects. It's not just putting on size and getting your conditioning right. If it were that simple, we would see more exceptional physiques.
The only ones this old fart is impressed by today, are Kai and good old Dexter. No offence for Jay who in my eyes is a great bodybuilder and got the best out of his genetics.
But Ramy? We'll see...
I have pointed out elsewhere Ramis potential problem this year, its peoples expectations, if he comes in slightly off he will place way down the lineup.good point,,as well as rhoden from 3rd to where??
People are now expecting him to be pushing Phil for first.
Its not a realistic expectation in his first Olympia.
good point,,as well as rhoden from 3rd to where??I think Rhoden will drop a couple of places this year.
I have pointed out elsewhere Ramis potential problem this year, its peoples expectations, if he comes in slightly off he will place way down the lineup.True, I have to agree here but I have done the math and if you look at his pro qualifier it is night and day, I even said before he looked like shit, he was 288 and in New york he was 291-292 and what looked like 12-15 less fat and bloat which means from his pro qualifier to his pro debut he improved 20 %
People are now expecting him to be pushing Phil for first.
Its not a realistic expectation in his first Olympia.
True, I have to agree here but I have done the math and if you look at his pro qualifier it is night and day, I even said before he looked like shit, he was 288 and in New york he was 291-292 and what looked like 12-15 less fat and bloat which means from his pro qualifier to his pro debut he improved 20 %agreed, but its "maths" ;D
This is the type of guy that strives on momentum just like Yates did, and we will see the same outcome at the O, a very drastic change once again, he is in mid 20`s and he is at the point were (if improvements are made) they will be made now.
agreed, but its "maths" ;Djerk, as usual ;D lol kidding ;)
jerk, as usual ;D lol kidding ;);)
I think Rhoden will drop a couple of places this year.I am a huge fan of Rhoden but Jay and Ramy have to go somewhere and unfortunately at the expense of Rhoden
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I am a huge fan of Rhoden but Jay and Ramy have to go somewhere and unfortunately at the expense of Rhoden
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exactly,rhodens off season looks killer but again he gets lost with 2 more names in ,,,beat but the truth,unless he looks amazing and jays really sucks..can't see that happening tho,,
when you disect his pysique, he has size, but doesnt flow, has lines, compared to ronnie he couldnt even stand next to ronnie, not what many claim, has long way to go.You do not need to compare to Ronnie to come in the top 2 at the Olympia.
10 Weeks Out
needs to start training those camel calfs soon
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Dennis James
Team Menace, Oxygen gym and Weider athlete Big Ramy 10 weeks out of the 2013 Mr.Olympia. Ramy is sitting on 315lbs and is super motivated to give the fans everything they ask for in Las Vegas. Please check out Flexonline.com for more updated 10 weeks out pictures of the new IFBB star.
At 280-285, he would be unbeatable.
Looks like Mr O material to me should easily be top 5, only reason i dont say top 3 is the IFBB judges are known to buttfuck people for better placements
when you disect his pysique, he has size, but doesnt flow, has lines, compared to ronnie he couldnt even stand next to ronnie, not what many claim, has long way to go.the only bodybuilder who ever came very close to ronnie was jay cutler
the only bodybuilder who ever came very close to ronnie was jay cutler
His calves could be brought up a bit seeing how big his quads are, but really...THIS IS YOUR TOP 3, QFT
Ronnie won...
Dexter won...
And neither of them were known for outstanding calves.
Never know.
Either way, Phil, Kai, and Ramy will be all in contention for the title this year...
Curry's legs are small compared to the rest of him.He brought them up not small!
2013 Olympia - Top 3
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if jay could come in like that again its his showAll ugly mofo's.
but he cant
ramy will get 5th purely on politics alone
All ugly mofo's.
to be fair to jay he is sporting a fine head of hair thereTrue.
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is that bob parisNot gone for me, I still remember those days as the pinnacle of bodybuilding.
those days are gone never to return
imo prime levrone was the peak of size and aesthetics
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is that bob paris
those days are gone never to return
imo prime levrone was the peak of size and aesthetics
Who's that skinny geek? Does he even lift?
still say ramy wont place top 6, if he does its a gift designed to create more attention and interest in the sport, especially for the people of the middle east, seems the ifbb thinks people will flock to bodybuilding during an all out world war in the middle easta gift??????? are you fucken high, the man is 300lb at 5 foot 10 with a waist that belongs on Dexter and the craziest quad sweep ever seen in the history of bodybuilding since it's conception, wow, coocoo. Bro you really do not know anything about bodybuilding, sorry bro not trying to be rude but that's statement is the fucken most wacked out statement I have ever heard in my entire life, wowowowowowo :o :o :o :o :o :o
its his first olypia, if he places top six i applaud ramy, but this shit is getting out of hand, people have to pay their dues in the old school, he aint paid nothing but dennis james pocket book!
its his first olypia, if he places top six i applaud ramy, but this shit is getting out of hand, people have to pay their dues in the old school, he aint paid nothing but dennis james pocket book!fuck paying dues, let the best physiques place where they deserved to be place.
its his first olypia, if he places top six i applaud ramy, but this shit is getting out of hand, people have to pay their dues in the old school, he aint paid nothing but dennis james pocket book!
Big Jay is going to win it again this year and go out on top. Like Arnold in '80. Just watch.
this
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ok onetime hard, you officially said he will place second.............for the record............is this your final answer?This is my answer right here.
this
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was a huge fan until I saw this pic... well, still a fan, but with that back, I dunno if I can see him in the top 1 or 2 spots. I realize it's offseason and he's holding water, but it's not poppin. from the front shots, it looked like his back was 'weak', but then I thought, nah, it's just overpowered by everything else... till I saw this pic.Back detail does not come out on anyone when they are 25-30lb out. Back is the last thing to come out, he is 315 lb there, detail is not expected at this stage.
was a huge fan until I saw this pic... well, still a fan, but with that back, I dunno if I can see him in the top 1 or 2 spots. I realize it's offseason and he's holding water, but it's not poppin. from the front shots, it looked like his back was 'weak', but then I thought, nah, it's just overpowered by everything else... till I saw this pic.
this
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Agreed with the detail portion. Kai and Phil still seem to have more muscle overall in back shots at this many weeks out thoTrue but we are talking 2 of the best backs in the world and yes back wins the O in most case but Jay's back detailed sucked and he took the O, so with everything else freaky and a slightly weak back, he is still very dangerous.
those days are gone never to return
ramy has only stood next to a recovering from injury martinez who looked about 20lbs down from where he used to benothing has been further then the truth. Kai is not even remotely close to Ramy in muscle size, Ramy is way bigger.
kai carries a shit load more muscle and phil is big and aesthetic
untill he stands next to them its hard to place him
would be cool if those three are in the first call out
be interesting to see him against someone huge like wolf or centonpani too
Nasser Syndrome? I hope not.
nothing has been further then the truth. Kai is not even remotely close to Ramy in muscle size, Ramy is way bigger.
I asked tons who have seen him in person and say Kai looks like his little brother in real life
nothing has been further then the truth. Kai is not even remotely close to Ramy in muscle size, Ramy is way bigger.
I asked tons who have seen him in person and say Kai looks like his little brother in real life
lol. Just so I know, how do you like your crow?Wiggs, I do not have favorites like you do therefor I am not biased. My rants are for real. Ramy is treading in new territory never before seen at any bodybuilding show in the history of man kind and that is the combination of his sheer dimension and his small gut.
Wiggs, I do not have favorites like you do therefor I am not biased. My rants are for real. Ramy is treading in new territory never before seen at any bodybuilding show in the history of man kind and that is the combination of his sheer dimension and his small gut.
you know more about this shit than meMy friend an IFBB pro was in sheer awe about his size, when he seen him up close in real life , he said Kai and Dennis Wolf are tiny next to Ramy and Markus too, he said Ramy was the most enormous human he has ever seen and he has seen them all. He looks like a cartoon.
ive only seen phil in real life he was short but fucking huge
i saw ronny back in the day and he was unreal
markus rhul was the biggest human being i ever saw he was so fucking wide
guess we will see at the time
Ramy wont beat Kai or Phil. I said that from the beginning and I'm sticking to it. He doesn't have the detail, tie-ins or conditioning to hand with either of them and dropping 10 lbs isn't going to fix it in 6 months. 3rd is the highest hell get. And actually you are biased. You've been on this Ramy rant for a while now.True, I say 6th see you got to pay your dues in the O first 1 or 2 years check the history you got to be there awhile.
Ramy wont beat Kai or Phil. I said that from the beginning and I'm sticking to it. He doesn't have the detail, tie-ins or conditioning to hand with either of them and dropping 10 lbs isn't going to fix it in 6 months. 3rd is the highest hell get. And actually you are biased. You've been on this Ramy rant for a while now.I am not to far from you on this one anyway as I said if anyone can beat him only Kai and Phil can. Phil for sure, Kai, I give 50 50. If I had to choose, I will go with Ramy but I can accept Kai beating him.
The thing with the judging from recent years however...Even the greatest of all time can not win the O on first try, Arnold, Haney, Yates, it could not happen so Phil is safe but no one else is. BUt I think Phil would win by deserving it and not by politics anyway so this is a moot point.
Kai is usually bigger than Phil...
And with Phil's detail, Phil wins.
If that's the case, then we could place them fairly easily as of now, with Kai being a wild card, depending if be comes dialed in or not.
Remy places 7th this yearI tend to agree I said 6th but maybe 7th.
Remy places 7th this year
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but this guy is better than dillet.
small arms, average chest and back
ludicrous quads and delts
looks short even if hes not
get a grip ::)
bob paris is a f@g
dexter jackson wipes the floor with him, aesthetics wise
bob paris is a f@g
dexter jackson wipes the floor with him, aesthetics wise
why is people pretending this isn't the most impressive bb related photos he have seen in Years? is it because hes arab?
Oth, do you not think that Jay would get a gift ,and get 3rd over Ramy if he comes in looking somewhere close to 2009?an 09 Jay can take everyone, he had striations in all four muscles in the quads and nailed everything.
i though zkk's pics were more impressiveRamy would eclipse him with ease.
an 09 Jay can take everyone, he had striations in all four muscles in the quads and nailed everything.(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/357/d/img_24411253955345.jpg)
That would not be a gift, that would be well deserved but and average Jay like and 04, 05, 06 Jay will not be enough to beat Phil, Ramy or Kai
Jay no matter how he looks he has top 5 on lock and not necessarily out of politics but out of the fact that all the judges subconsciously will not drop him beyond 5th.
The way I see it is Jay will be placed in front of anyone who is not 100%, so it largely depends on how other come in and not him.
I also feel Kai will burn out and do something drastic and fall a few placings, 4th or 5th.
Ramy would eclipse him with ease.u sure?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/357/d/img_24411253955345.jpg)One attribute out of many only, so what, the overall physique was hard as nails, small waist, wide shoulders, x frame, striated like munzer in thighs and still among the biggest on stage, very impressive package.
Smooth lower back?
One attribute out of many only, so what, the overall physique was hard as nails, small waist, wide shoulders, x frame, striated like munzer in thighs and still among the biggest on stage, very impressive package.Just pointing out he didnt 'nail everything'.
u sure?OMG you guys just don't get it do you, Ramy is by himself, there is no one, he is in a league of his own, IFBB pros dread his size, he makes the freaks look small, he is labled a cartoon character, until you guys see him in real life you won't understand the sheer dimensions of this guy.
i saw zkk about two yrs ago at the fibo
he dwarfed everyone
a total beast
Are you a pro?No
OMG you guys just don't get it do you, Ramy is by himself, there is no one, he is in a league of his own, IFBB pros dread his size, he makes the freaks look small, he is labled a cartoon character, until you guys see him in real life you won't understand the sheer dimensions of this guy.no shit, even Victor martinez looked like a little kid next to him. Sure it wasnt the best line up but he was so freaking dominating it wasnt even funny.
He is an anomaly among pros, wait until Olympia webcast when he roams around stage making Wolf and Cutler look tiny. Fuck, nothing I can say to you guys, Zack is peanuts next to this guy, he is nothing.
OMG you guys just don't get it do you, Ramy is by himself, there is no one, he is in a league of his own, IFBB pros dread his size, he makes the freaks look small, he is labled a cartoon character, until you guys see him in real life you won't understand the sheer dimensions of this guy.cant wait
He is an anomaly among pros, wait until Olympia webcast when he roams around stage making Wolf and Cutler look tiny. Fuck, nothing I can say to you guys, Zack is peanuts next to this guy, he is nothing.
no shit, even Victor martinez looked like a little kid next to him. Sure it wasnt the best line up but he was so freaking dominating it wasnt even funny.Victor and Fouad looked really close in size in Toronto, I would say Fouad is a tad bigger, like 5-7lb and Fouad is a freak in size so Victor was not under his usual size for New York, he was within 5% of his biggest he has been and Ramy absolutely down sized him.
Victor and Fouad looked really close in size in Toronto, I would say Fouad is a tad bigger, like 5-7lb and Fouad is a freak in size so Victor was not under his usual size for New York, he was within 5% of his biggest he has been and Ramy absolutely down sized him.exactly, i dont think people here realy understands how fucking big ramy is
This is a man that hates calf raises.
that puic of Khan and evani was there , i in fact took the picturer
1stly evan is in a lot better condition, Zack is off season , hence going to be bigger and smoother
also the angle and fact that zack is closer to the camera makes him look bigger