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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
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The world needs ditch diggers too.
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WW III is imminent.
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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
We're fucked. We all better start going to school for technology jobs or we are hella-fucked.
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I'll still be around. I'll be programming the computers ;D
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journalists are mentally deficient, hth
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no need to go into it
Basically. Talk about sensationalist journalism at its worst
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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
This claim was first made in 1885. No such luck so far.
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Well than I will be the guy running the company making the applications for them. You need to adapt with the times to live well.
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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
they said this in the 80s
they cant even get a robot to turn a screw driver properly
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they said this in the 80s
they cant even get a robot to turn a screw driver properly
I've worked for General Motors since 1985. In the late 80's GM started installing more and more robots. The big issue with a robot was if it went down it could be hours of lost production. If a person would go down they could immediately put another person on that operation with little or no down time. Lessons learned, many of those robots were removed.
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I've worked for General Motors since 1985. In the late 80's GM started installing more and more robots. The big issue with a robot was if it went down it could be hours of lost production. If a person would go down they could immediately put another person on that operation with little or no down time. Lessons learned, many of those robots were removed.
theyre having all sorts of problems at cherynobyl with robots trying to unscrew bolts and shit
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I've worked for General Motors since 1985. In the late 80's GM started installing more and more robots. The big issue with a robot was if it went down it could be hours of lost production. If a person would go down they could immediately put another person on that operation with little or no down time. Lessons learned, many of those robots were removed.
Yep....the "Buick City" model. They were going to pump out Grand Ams by the minute without a human ever touching them.
Never quite came to fruition, but it was a good try.
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Yep....the "Buick City" model. They were going to pump out Grand Ams by the minute without a human ever touching them.
Never quite came to fruition, but it was a good try.
Buick City was our Sister plant, I work at Wentzville.
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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
whenever that happens, economy will need renewal of some sort.
maybe it can provide ppl to work less with just enough income and have more free time, but that would hurt the economy in 2 ways, ppl consume in their fre time and theyd have less to consume.
whats more worrysome is the day when military and police become operated by robots.
we will see
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Well than I will be the guy running the company making the applications for them. You need to adapt with the times to live well.
Let me know if you need a CTO bro
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my penis is a robot
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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
I say invest in robots and robot technology. ;)
I also say i'd rather see robots give local news than some of these carrot-faced dbags. (ever met a 'local tv news anchor' in person? these dudes think they're tom cruise or something. lol)
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This claim was first made in 1885. No such luck so far.
100 percent of jobs have been lost since 2000, that's simply how the economy works. Old jobs become redundant and new jobs find there way in.
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I've worked for General Motors since 1985. In the late 80's GM started installing more and more robots. The big issue with a robot was if it went down it could be hours of lost production. If a person would go down they could immediately put another person on that operation with little or no down time. Lessons learned, many of those robots were removed.
Maybe if these robots were made in Japan u wouldn't have this problem
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We're fucked. We all better start going to school for technology jobs or we are hella-fucked.
Please. When everybody in the late 90s went to school for IT jobs, they ship the jobs over to India.
None of these corporations WANT to pay Americans that good, sweet, rich cheesy money when they can find others who can do job for less.
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Please. When everybody in the late 90s went to school for IT jobs, they ship the jobs over to India.
None of these corporations WANT to pay Americans that good, sweet, rich cheesy money when they can find others who can do job for less.
That half true, most companies saw outsourcing as the way to get the job done at a cheaper price but at a cost. You get what you pay for. Now most companies are slowing down the amount of jobs they throw at India for example bc alot of the outsourced talent just isnt as good. Of course there are exceptional developers in India and other 3rd world countries but they don't represent the masses.
Take the banking industry, alot of banks/brokerage firms want developers who also understand business ( Trading and such) but its hard to find the combo of talented developer + business knowledge.
I read that by 2020, most companies will dramatically lower the amount of jobs they sent overseas
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Well than I will be the guy running the company making the applications for them. You need to adapt with the times to live well.
might want to try tightening your grasp on the english language first, stud
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Well, Ill be 57, kids will be done with college (my house is paid off) and I hope to work part time anyways at shit job, like Dick Cheney as a Walmart greeter...
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The jetsons were set in like 2010. How'd that work out
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In the future a robot taxi will pick up QuickerBlade at LAX. Sorry Arce.
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:D ;D
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That half true, most companies saw outsourcing as the way to get the job done at a cheaper price but at a cost. You get what you pay for. Now most companies are slowing down the amount of jobs they throw at India for example bc alot of the outsourced talent just isnt as good. Of course there are exceptional developers in India and other 3rd world countries but they don't represent the masses.
Take the banking industry, alot of banks/brokerage firms want developers who also understand business ( Trading and such) but its hard to find the combo of talented developer + business knowledge.
I read that by 2020, most companies will dramatically lower the amount of jobs they sent overseas
after the 'great recession' most companies learned to run as lean as they possibly can in order to be profitable with lower volume.. I find it hard to believe many businesses could get even leaner than they were in '09/10.
this is capitalism 101.. the only goal is to make money, not give away jobs and money because your company can afford to do it.
i think 'robots' and machines, ect... are a much better idea (i'm always a 'supply-side' guy)... sure, if a robot/machine goes down, it could take a while to get it running/producing again, but you have to weigh the cost of the other expenses that go with having a human (American) doing the job.... labor laws... payroll taxes... healthcare... workers comp.. insurance... lawsuits for a thousand different reasons... humans are liabilities.
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(http://www.xristianiki.gr/images/stories/Capitalism_Gun_Against_Head.jpg)
is that what jeff monsoon spray painted on a capital building? ;D
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after the 'great recession' most companies learned to run as lean as they possibly can in order to be profitable with lower volume.. I find it hard to believe many businesses could get even leaner than they were in '09/10.
this is capitalism 101.. the only goal is to make money, not give away jobs and money because your company can afford to do it.
i think 'robots' and machines, ect... are a much better idea (i'm always a 'supply-side' guy)... sure, if a robot/machine goes down, it could take a while to get it running/producing again, but you have to weigh the cost of the other expenses that go with having a human (American) doing the job.... labor laws... payroll taxes... healthcare... workers comp.. insurance... lawsuits for a thousand different reasons... humans are liabilities.
very true about company's figuring out how to run lean. If I get 30% more out of each employee I can afford to cut 10% of them. They also figured out its cheaper to pay OT then to hire another full time, this will be even more true now that health care cost has doubled for them
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after the 'great recession' most companies learned to run as lean as they possibly can in order to be profitable with lower volume.. I find it hard to believe many businesses could get even leaner than they were in '09/10.
this is capitalism 101.. the only goal is to make money, not give away jobs and money because your company can afford to do it.
i think 'robots' and machines, ect... are a much better idea (i'm always a 'supply-side' guy)... sure, if a robot/machine goes down, it could take a while to get it running/producing again, but you have to weigh the cost of the other expenses that go with having a human (American) doing the job.... labor laws... payroll taxes... healthcare... workers comp.. insurance... lawsuits for a thousand different reasons... humans are liabilities.
Why robots?
The entire premise behind Globalization is to remove the impediments so capital can find cheap labor.
And cheap labor is renewable and infinite.
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(http://powerlifter.ru/uploads/2012/06/jeff-monson-tattoos.png)
Any one read Russian?
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(http://powerlifter.ru/uploads/2012/06/jeff-monson-tattoos.png)
Any one read Russian?
You're posting way too much today. Maybe log off for a while?
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Why are you posting?
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after the 'great recession' most companies learned to run as lean as they possibly can in order to be profitable with lower volume.. I find it hard to believe many businesses could get even leaner than they were in '09/10.
this is capitalism 101.. the only goal is to make money, not give away jobs and money because your company can afford to do it.
i think 'robots' and machines, ect... are a much better idea (i'm always a 'supply-side' guy)... sure, if a robot/machine goes down, it could take a while to get it running/producing again, but you have to weigh the cost of the other expenses that go with having a human (American) doing the job.... labor laws... payroll taxes... healthcare... workers comp.. insurance... lawsuits for a thousand different reasons... humans are liabilities.
i totally understand why this is done economically- i am only referring to Parkers comment on outsourcing bc I have seen first hand where outsourcing can work against you ( in certain areas) I am only discussing outsourcing in IT, in manufacturing there is no argument where a company SHOULD employ an american vs sending those jobs overseas
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I have been gone all day.
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i totally understand why this is done economically- i am only referring to Parkers comment on outsourcing bc I have seen first hand where outsourcing can work against you ( in certain areas) I am only discussing outsourcing in IT, in manufacturing there is no argument where a company SHOULD employ an american vs sending those jobs overseas
ahh.. I think I quoted u but was also responding to an earlier comment.
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(http://powerlifter.ru/uploads/2012/06/jeff-monson-tattoos.png)
Any one read Russian?
1 flag of anarchy
2 policy to overthrow or do away with government
3 portray of jeffs views on capitalism,something like that
4 label "k" representing kimurawear,s sponsor anf frend of jeff
5 girl fighting capitalism,representig the "proles" int he fight against the upper class.
oh, my eyes hurt now from the small letters :-X
but its safe to say this jeff guy is at least a communist sympatizer ;D
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Why are you posting?
We're turning this place back into a bodybuilding forum. Start looking elsewhere.
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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
If by robots you mean repressed cheap labor (Indians, Chinese, et cetera.)... yes, that is the case.
I wonder what the governments are going to do though... that many people unemployed and pissed...
(http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/4/43/Overloaded_train_hanging_india.jpg)
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thanks gal! the girl looks like cosette from les miserables!
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no problemo arce, i can do the rest later or tomorow
on the topic, robots dont ask for paid holidays, they dont need cigarete breaks,lunch breaks, no pension, no health insurance.
and pensions, i am not so sure if the "die hard" full out capitalists here or anywhere(btw,if youre not considerably in the 1% already, you do not profit from unregulated "free" markets)realize what this means.
this means the pension funds will come from uhm, lets see?out of the anushole? ???
ppl get older, but wont have work, no pension funds, i see a bit a problem coming here.
there was a time when inventing new stuff was considered an economic revolution ,and fought hard by the ones with the outdated technologies, this went as far as killing the inventors and burning thier houses etc.these days thats done with less violence.
times change,most ppl who been 20 50years ago,dont understand the world today anymore.
im sure ppl who are 30 today will not recognize the world anymore in 40years.
we can hope to have smart population and good representative governments and hope for the best.
reading some universtity professors books,left and right will give rough idea about where society is going.
damn, recently i saw self pay machines in grocery shop.
this is just one example of some jobs gone.sure some ppl have developed those machines etc, but the net result will be less emplyed people.if that werent the case,it wouldnt make capitalist sense,would it :)
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They are trying their damndest to try to computerize my job. Luckily they will never be able to. Even when they do make a computer that is able to process as fast as the brain they would still be even MORE decades off trying to get that implemented just to assist us. Yay.
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They are trying their damndest to try to computerize my job. Luckily they will never be able to. Even when they do make a computer that is able to process as fast as the brain they would still be even MORE decades off trying to get that implemented just to assist us. Yay.
i seen other ppl say the same, by now their job is gone lol
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This is of some benefit to those of us self employed.
Cant wait till the day i can send a robot out to do my job while i lay around and watch daytime telly.
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I've worked for General Motors since 1985. In the late 80's GM started installing more and more robots. The big issue with a robot was if it went down it could be hours of lost production. If a person would go down they could immediately put another person on that operation with little or no down time. Lessons learned, many of those robots were removed.
Robotics was just starting out back then...When the robots can repair the robots, that's when things will really start moving...
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How many jobs would be created if the Hierarchy decided to ramp up their earthquake machine on a very large city/state? They could wipe out a small percentage of people all the while creating a shit load of jobs that robots won't be able to do right now.
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the local news just said, that 50% of ALL jobs, will be LOST (done by robots, computers, etc) in 10 years
what say you all?
50% of all people don't do a damn thing anyway. Why wait ten years? I can sell you a robot right now that can do that.
Mechanization or automation is a better word. 'Robot' connotes, to a lot of people anyway, an autonomous machine operating without the need for human guidance. That will never happen. AI will never happen imo, if that's what they're telling you to fear.
I'm amazed computers haven't replaced accountants, bookkeepers, and general bean counters already though. Given the right program it's little more than a question of data entry. Yet they behave as if it's some black art and tell you they bill $400/hr. ::) So fuck 'em.
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dont worry, after the crash and following wars there will be tons of jobs available again, it just happen we re not born at the right moment. The question is how to survive until then.
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Robotics was just starting out back then...When the robots can repair the robots, that's when things will really start moving...
This is true. But, GM installed the latest/greatest robots in our glass cells in July and hardly a day goes by without these robots breaking down. For two months we would run 10 hour shifts just to make 8 hours production.
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I think everyone should keep an open mind when it comes to robotics and AI because even if the predictions are sometimes overly optimistic big things are still going to happen. It's hard to do anything or prepare for the future because it's not here yet but I think we could try to soften the impact.
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I think everyone should keep an open mind when it comes to robotics and AI because even if the predictions are sometimes overly optimistic big things are still going to happen. It's hard to do anything or prepare for the future because it's not here yet but I think we could try to soften the impact.
We've been hearing predictions for strong AI since the 1960's?
The singularity freaks aside, barring some major breakthroughs in computer science and neuroscience I don't think it is coming anytime soon.
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i seen other ppl say the same, by now their job is gone lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_traffic_control
I'm not going anywhere. :)
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automatic carwashes
self-checkout at grocery stores
kuerig k-cup coffee makers
flowbe vacuum haircutters
iRobot vacuum cleaners
Fleshlights
Sawzall dildo's
aside from the self-checkout, I don't think any of these things are an improvement over the 'real thing'..
what else is there?
combines for harvesting grain/corn or whatever
tracktors pulling plows instead of ox
mechanical 'tree shakers' for harvesting fruit
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automatic carwashes
self-checkout at grocery stores
kuerig k-cup coffee makers
flowbe vacuum haircutters
iRobot vacuum cleaners
Fleshlights
Sawzall dildo's
aside from the self-checkout, I don't think any of these things are an improvement over the 'real thing'..
what else is there?
combines for harvesting grain/corn or whatever
tracktors pulling plows instead of ox
mechanical 'tree shakers' for harvesting fruit
Plus Fleshlights.