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Anyone following the harassment, bullying story down in Miami? Is one Dolphin (Martin) being bullied by another (Icognito) because he's gay?
Or is the one fella just a little sensitive?
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Gey. Seems like a jock strap sniffer
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Bullying? In the NFL?
This country is doomed.
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Bullying? In the NFL?
This country is doomed.
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WTF?
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my understanding is that an estimated 20% of NFL athletes are gay or bi...
sports environments tend to attract homosexuals because sports are all about celebrating the male body...
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90% of american footballers are bum boys
thats why they need padding and shit
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my understanding is that an estimated 20% of NFL athletes are gay or bi...
sports environments tend to attract homosexuals because sports are all about celebrating the male body...
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http://espn.go.com/otl/world/day2_part1.html (http://espn.go.com/otl/world/day2_part1.html)
see if espn guesses 10% then it's gotta be triple that much
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Bullying? In the NFL?
This country is doomed.
tough to argue this one.
You're a millionaire with world class genetics and you're pouting in the locker room?
Come on, man!!!!!!
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tough to argue this one.
You're a millionaire with world class genetics and you're pouting in the locker room?
Come on, man!!!!!!
or pounding
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tough to argue this one.
You're a millionaire with world class genetics and you're pouting in the locker room?
Come on, man!!!!!!
both of his parents are Harvard grads. And supposedly they are really pushing this agenda....he's a bitch.
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both of his parents are Harvard grads. And supposedly they are really pushing this agenda....he's a bitch.
Groink, not sure I'm following, are the parents pushing the bullying or gay agenda?
He's a Stanford grad isn't he?
Something doesn't seem right?
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What Agenda?
His folks that studied at Harvard wants WHAT from their offspring?
Attenzione?
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Groink, not sure I'm following, are the parents pushing the bullying or gay agenda?
He's a Stanford grad isn't he?
Something doesn't seem right?
The league wanted to squash this by having the to have some sort of meeting to work out their differences and make nice. His parents would have nothing to do with it, they want to make it into a national case.
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the player who "teased" martin has been suspended from the team.
There HAS to be something more than just one dude being a dick to another dude. Players punch each other out in practice frequently and it's no big deal. Suddenly WORDS get a dude suspended.
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the player who "teased" martin has been suspended from the team.
There HAS to be something more than just one dude being a dick to another dude. Players punch each other out in practice frequently and it's no big deal. Suddenly WORDS get a dude suspended.
Well, it appears Icognito is an ass, but leaving the team because you're bring bullied?
Doesn't make sense. He gave them $15,000 to party in Vegas without him?
Something smells rotten in Denmark.
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This is the guy they claim is fucking with Martin. Richie Incognito. Long time NFL hell raiser and thug. :D
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you guys are forgetting this is a workplace and those 'words' can get you in as much trouble in an NFL lockeroom as anywhere else in corporate America
plus take into account all the media attention the anti bullying lobby is getting.
two things corporate America is not going to put up with in the workplace any longer is anti gay sentiment or discrimination, and bullying.
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you guys are forgetting this is a workplace and those 'words' can get you in as much trouble in an NFL lockeroom as anywhere else in corporate America
plus take into account all the media attention the anti bullying lobby is getting.
two things corporate America is not going to put up with in the workplace any longer is anti gay sentiment or discrimination, and bullying.
sounds more like a lovers quarrel
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you guys are forgetting this is a workplace and those 'words' can get you in as much trouble in an NFL lockeroom as anywhere else in corporate America
plus take into account all the media attention the anti bullying lobby is getting.
two things corporate America is not going to put up with in the workplace any longer is anti gay sentiment or discrimination, and bullying.
then one must be an adult (or a man, woman) and stand up for one's self. If it comes to a fight the locker room, so be it.
There comes a time in ones life that one must stand up, and not have the masses represent you...
Bullying my ass. These sensitive folks haven't seen bullying.
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Anyone following the harassment, bullying story down in Miami? Is one Dolphin (Martin) being bullied by another (Icognito) because he's gay?
Or is the one fella just a little sensitive?
Come on now, can this fellow really be gay?
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Well, it appears Icognito is an ass, but leaving the team because you're bring bullied?
Doesn't make sense. He gave them $15,000 to party in Vegas without him?
Something smells rotten in Denmark.
It does...apparantly from what I understand Icognito extorted money from Martin including that 15k and threatened him and his family.
Fact is that while some people think bullying isn't serious on a football team, its actually detrimental. The owner are shelling out a millions of dollars to win the Superbowl. They don't want some shithead causing trouble in the locker room....think Terrell Owens for example.
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I knew this was pretty serious when I heard Nico showed up to Dolphins practice on Friday asking if anybody had seen Richie.
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It does...apparantly from what I understand Icognito extorted money from Martin including that 15k and threatened him and his family.
Fact is that while some people think bullying isn't serious on a football team, its actually detrimental. The owner are shelling out a millions of dollars to win the Superbowl. They don't want some shithead causing trouble in the locker room....think Terrell Owens for example.
He extorted 15k? Get the hell out of here...and dude gave up the money? So, Icognito felt that he Could extort him, and it proved right, and because of this there is no respect that he has for Martin. Had Martin been like, "whatever" and they had a go in the locker room, regardless of who won, it would have been over.
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It does...apparantly from what I understand Icognito extorted money from Martin including that 15k and threatened him and his family.
WOW!!!
ProFootballtalk.com - they're saying there are threatening texts and at least one voicemail.
If that's the case, incognito is going to be out of the league. Just being a dick to someone, well, they're both grownups and Martin is free to smash him in the mouth with a 10 pound plate, and nobody will say a thing - players fight all the time.
This is a crime though - Incognito could be going to jail if that's the case. Good.
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dunno about being ghay, but those 2 'athletes' do look kinda fat
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This!
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He extorted 15k? Get the hell out of here...and dude gave up the money? So, Icognito felt that he Could extort him, and it proved right, and because of this there is no respect that he has for Martin. Had Martin been like, "whatever" and they had a go in the locker room, regardless of who won, it would have been over.
He wasn't the only one in on it...its actually a group of players and he was the ringleader....expect more people to be out
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He wasn't the only one in on it...its actually a group of players and he was the ringleader....expect more people to be out
So, basically he caved in and didn't report the "extortion" to the police.
And they (his team mates) felt that for some reason that they could extort him. Hmmm.
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Just listened to Adam Schefter this morning, he said this is just the tip of the iceberg! There other text's from other players supporting Martin's claims! Incognito will be made an example of he is probably done in the NFL! Dolphins looking real bad in this!
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The voicemail left on martin's phone
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9926139&src=desktop
"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
Discuss.
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The voicemail left on martin's phone
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9926139&src=desktop
"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
Discuss.
That's it? FFS, that's just standard rookie hazing. God, what a fucking fag this dude is.
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my understanding is that an estimated 20% of NFL athletes are gay or bi...
sports environments tend to attract homosexuals because sports are all about celebrating the male body...
According to Nasser PBUH that 50% of the world is gay so that would mean 80% of the NFL players are gay.
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"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
This Ingognito dude must serious have a 72 IQ... I mean, I know jars of peanut butter that sound more intelligent than this.
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This Ingognito dude must serious have a 72 IQ... I mean, I know jars of peanut butter that sound more intelligent than this.
While I agree, my 9th grade track team gave me more shit than this...
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He extorted 15k? Get the hell out of here...and dude gave up the money? So, Icognito felt that he Could extort him, and it proved right, and because of this there is no respect that he has for Martin. Had Martin been like, "whatever" and they had a go in the locker room, regardless of who won, it would have been over.
Agreed! Martin is soft ,and did not have the mental make up for an NFL locker room! That being said Incognito ain't the sharpest tool in the shed, shouldn't be a leader on that team!
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Why do any sports still Haze rookies? What is the fucking point? they tried to haze me in College my freshman year, I heard about the time they planned to do it so I brought a big hunting knife with me, just as I was walking on campus I heard a yell "get him" referring to me. I pulled the knife out of my bag and started screaming at them to try to touch me and I'll kill everyone one of them. They just backed off claiming they were joking and the next day I joined them in hazing the rest of the rookies. one rookie got mad at me saying, "you're a rookie, you're not supposed to haze others" lol.
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While I agree, my 9th grade track team gave me more shit than this...
Oh, I get verbally reamed on the political board worse than this on a daily basis.
I think, if Martin was gay and they were ragging on him for it - then it would have made it to this voicemail. seems like Incognito is the type to be homophobic if he's really dumb enough to want to shit in another man's mouth and using that racist talk.
Maybe it'll just end up being the racial word he used that sinks him. Maybe Martin isn't gay, maybe that never comes out. The media has had a few chances to sink people with that, and they're usually pretty good about leaving that issue alone. One of the rare good things they do - ESPN will never let us hear the end of it, when a dude uses adderall to learn plays or uses HGH to recover from a broken leg... but they do seem to be decent about not harping on it when a dude sexts another dude for 2 years "accidentally"... I watch ESPN daily and nobody ever came at Manti for possibly being gay, which is good progress, I'd say.
Seriously, seems like sports media ignores sexual orientation, even steps around it, which is great.
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just goes to show you can be a 6'5" 320lb black man and still be a Beta.
grown man throwing tantrums and storming away from the dinner table stomping his feet... telling on people and shit.... :-\ sissy.
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Why do any sports still Haze rookies? What is the fucking point? they tried to haze me in College my freshman year, I heard about the time they planned to do it so I brought a big hunting knife with me, just as I was walking on campus I heard a yell "get him" referring to me. I pulled the knife out of my bag and started screaming at them to try to touch me and I'll kill everyone one of them. They just backed off claiming they were joking and the next day I joined them in hazing the rest of the rookies. one rookie got mad at me saying, "you're a rookie, you're not supposed to haze others" lol.
Cool story Bro....you should add some dragons, unicorns, and wizards the next time you tell it.
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just goes to show you can be a 6'5" 320lb black man and still be a Beta.
grown man throwing tantrums and storming away from the dinner table stomping his feet... telling on people and shit.... :-\ sissy.
And he was nice. He only called him half-colored.
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Sources also say Martin received a series of texts that included derogatory terms referring to the female anatomy and sexual orientation.
Incognito will never play again, sources in the NFL & miami dophins agree.
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The voicemail left on martin's phone
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9926139&src=desktop
"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
Discuss.
What a pussy going public with this. He will be shunned by players in the league throughout his career.
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What a pussy going public with this. He will be shunned by players in the league throughout his career.
he was contacted with that voicemail in preseason.
he sat on it imo hoping that things would get better.
I think he put up with it longer than anyone would. in fact instead of looking at him like a big baby I see a guy who tried to tough it out and just wasn't/ couldnt going to deal w the slurs and whatever else anymore. nobody should have to suffer that bullshit, male female child or adult.
the NFL is doing an internal investigation of the situation and the lockeroom.
I think this is the tip of the iceberg. this might just be the start of one of the biggest stories in the history of the NFL, esp if it becomes more about sexually oriented discrimination and less abt what the media is reporting ie racial slurs and expletives left on a cell phone message.
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I think this is the tip of the iceberg. this might just be the start of one of the biggest stories in the history of the NFL, esp if it becomes more about sexually oriented discrimination and less abt what the media is reporting ie racial slurs and expletives left on a cell phone message.
Yeah, the media ALMOST went there with Manti Teo... he "sexted" with another man for 2 years "accidentally". But they respected the boundaries.
ESPN just keeps saying more is coming. They are NOT talking about sexual orientation so far - they're talking about the race thing. EVERYONE is pummeling Incognito, getting on the right side of it.
Personally, I think sexual orientation stays out of the news. It'll be all over the blogs, but I'd still be surprised is ESPN "goes there".
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I knew this was pretty serious when I heard Nico showed up to Dolphins practice on Friday asking if anybody had seen Richie.
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he was contacted with that voicemail in preseason.
he sat on it imo hoping that things would get better.
I think he put up with it longer than anyone would. in fact instead of looking at him like a big baby I see a guy who tried to tough it out and just wasn't/ couldnt going to deal w the slurs and whatever else anymore. nobody should have to suffer that bullshit, male female child or adult.
the NFL is doing an internal investigation of the situation and the lockeroom.
I think this is the tip of the iceberg. this might just be the start of one of the biggest stories in the history of the NFL, esp if it becomes more about sexually oriented discrimination and less abt what the media is reporting ie racial slurs and expletives left on a cell phone message.
Yeah you're right. I agree.
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Incognito is a worthless piece of shit and should have been thrown out of the league a long time ago... Martin should have kicked his azz like Ditka said... Violence is not always the "right" answer - buts it IS always an answer... Granted these guys aren't always so tough off the field and I am all for attempting "diplomatic" solutions but some situations and some people need to be handled with a decisive overwhelming display of force... Its very difficult for a man to run his suck hole with his jaw wired shut...
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Incognito was making $250,000 per game. All gone cause he appeared to be an insecure, angry dbag.
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Yeah, the media ALMOST went there with Manti Teo... he "sexted" with another man for 2 years "accidentally". But they respected the boundaries.
ESPN just keeps saying more is coming. They are NOT talking about sexual orientation so far - they're talking about the race thing. EVERYONE is pummeling Incognito, getting on the right side of it.
Personally, I think sexual orientation stays out of the news. It'll be all over the blogs, but I'd still be surprised is ESPN "goes there".
ya the NFL network is distancing itself from the possibility this is sexually oriented bullying as well.
I wonder if the league would let something like that come out. it's a sport steeped in a history of 'maniliness' for lack of a better word. I wonder if the NFL would sit on that kind of thing or censor that under the guise of protecting gay players (after all why have they not come out yet) when in reality not wanting to tarnish that history and legacy in the eyes of some. I wonder if the players know there are gay players in the league but nobody speaks on it.
at the end of the day the NFL is big business. the Dallas Cowboys are the second highest valued sports team I the world. it's going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
for some strange reason I view the NFL as very much a good ol boys club. the last bastion of inequality in an otherwise progressive society. if just has that feeling to me. how players hold coaches and owners in such esteem and regard to the point of being father figures etc. that loyalty could have possibly bought silence regarding the issues I think we're going to see unfold.
don't forget Martin still hasn't spoken publicly either. no telling where this goes one he speaks up. if he comes out this could be biggest sports story in a very very long time and it's implications hard to imagine. I don't think it would change the fabric of the game at all and in fact I think not many people would care. this isn't 1970.
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If George Bush Jr. had a son he would look like Incognito.
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At this point...
The TEAM needs O-line help. Martin, you got the jerk fired from the team (or he will be shortly). Incognito is gone, you dont have to see him again, and nobody is going to mess with you, believe that. Now, Miami fans are asking why you won't come back and help them against the Bucs this week.
He shoudl have just broken incognito's nose with a helmet. Knock him out for 3 games. But I know, that's not his style. Still, if he gets the jerk fired and STILL wants to drag things out in court, it could get ugly.
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weird story
and i have a feelibg its only gonna get worse now...not better
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ESPN talking Martin may never return to football - Might go to law school now.
Bill Polian talking now. He's 1.5 years into an NFL career, the bully is gone. Doesn't smell right now.
Cris Carter reports the Miami locker room actually wants Incognito back - saying that kinda psycho is why they're in the playoff hunt this year.
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A lot more stuff is going to come out! People like G.M. Jeff Ireland who already has a shit track record may end up losing his job! He is the one responsible for personnel decisions!
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NFL set a dangerous precedent by NOT suspending Riley Cooper of PHI for using the n-word on video like he did. Why?
Cause now they cannot suspend Incognito for it.
They CAN suspend him for "I'll shit in your mouth and kill you" comment... but then we have to start suspending every NFL player who threatens another? It happens a lot - Incognito is banned for life, then there's a lot more other people that need to be banned for life.
They can't suspend him for the gay comment without having to talk about it - and it seems the NFL is trying NOT to do this.
MY GUESS is that the NFL - due to their history of looking the other way, forgiving major offenses, and selective enforcement, is in a really messy spot now, and Incognito actually WILL be back in the league. That's my guess... He didn't drive drunk and kill anyone, he didn't put his hands on anyone. He used bad words - but they didn't suspend others for this word. He threatened a teammate - but opposing players do that on a weekly basis, we know this - stephen jackson told us about this 2 weeks ago, some dbag defender googled his wife and certainly bullied him with those comments.
NFL will have shit all over their face by the time this is done - Cause they've looked the other way for too long, on too many things.
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ESPN talking Martin may never return to football - Might go to law school now.
Bill Polian talking now. He's 1.5 years into an NFL career, the bully is gone. Doesn't smell right now.
Cris Carter reports the Miami locker room actually wants Incognito back - saying that kinda psycho is why they're in the playoff hunt this year.
No, they've never been in the playoff hunt....in fact its people like Incognito that makes teams lose games. To win the Superbowl, everyone has to work together and play as a team......having jackasses and showboats running around doesn't get shit done. Even Deion Sanders put aside his shit for the better of the team.
Incognito will never play football again....he's Terrell Owens but even worse.
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No, they've never been in the playoff hunt....in fact its people like Incognito that makes teams lose games. To win the Superbowl, everyone has to work together and play as a team......having jackasses and showboats running around doesn't get shit done. Even Deion Sanders put aside his shit for the better of the team.
Incognito will never play football again....he's Terrell Owens but even worse.
Dolphins are 4+4 they are in the hunt in the division! The 2nd half of the season is easier , although with an already crappy offensive line and now their 2 starters gone, it ain't gonna be easy for Tannehill! Terrell Owens always got it done on the field, he was just feared as a bad influence in the locker room! Incognito is a whole different situation!
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No, they've never been in the playoff hunt....in fact its people like Incognito that makes teams lose games. To win the Superbowl, everyone has to work together and play as a team......having jackasses and showboats running around doesn't get shit done. Even Deion Sanders put aside his shit for the better of the team.
Incognito will never play football again....he's Terrell Owens but even worse.
They're in the playoff hunt for sure. They're near the top of teams alive for the wildcard. They're back at .500 with 8 games left in a wide open AFC. I'm not saying they'll put it all together, but their second half of the season appears slightly more favorable than their first half considering they're playing teams like the Bucs and Steelers.
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No, they've never been in the playoff hunt....in fact its people like Incognito that makes teams lose games. To win the Superbowl, everyone has to work together and play as a team......having jackasses and showboats running around doesn't get shit done. Even Deion Sanders put aside his shit for the better of the team.
Incognito will never play football again....he's Terrell Owens but even worse.
seems like there is some validity to what Vince is sayin here
Martin and Incognito played next to each other protecting Tanehill's blind side. Tanehill was sacked (i believe a league high) 35 times
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Dolphins are 4+4 they are in the hunt in the division! The 2nd half of the season is easier , although with an already crappy offensive line and now their 2 starters gone, it ain't gonna be easy for Tannehill! Terrell Owens always got it done on the field, he was just feared as a bad influence in the locker room! Incognito is a whole different situation!
Haha exactly
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Sports is the best place for a gay guy he gets to see naked guys in the locker room and every time a guy scores a goal you can hug him and touch him and he is cool with it.
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Incognito's FATHER was posting in forums defending his son under an anonymous username. Claims Martin does drugs and tried to commit suicide three times.
http://deadspin.com/report-richie-incognito-will-never-play-another-game-a-1458305554
Even if it's true, the father is defending the son for bullying a guy who has issues like this? That makes him look like even more of a piece of shit.
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Sports is the best place for a gay guy he gets to see naked guys in the locker room and every time a guy scores a goal you can hug him and touch him and he is cool with it.
He can play center and have the QB shove his hands up his ass while bent over to snap the ball.
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Hope Incognito saved his pennies. He is toast. Bah!
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ESPN talking Martin may never return to football - Might go to law school now.
Bill Polian talking now. He's 1.5 years into an NFL career, the bully is gone. Doesn't smell right now.
Cris Carter reports the Miami locker room actually wants Incognito back - saying that kinda psycho is why they're in the playoff hunt this year.
well martin is probably the whole team's scapegoat/jonas now. No point in staying anyway, and it would be the same in any other league's team. He's toast so yeah he better find another occupation cause he ll always be labelled as a pussy everywhere in the league now.
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well martin is probably the whole team's scapegoat/jonas now. No point in staying anyway, and it would be the same in any other league's team. He's toast so yeah he better find another occupation cause he ll always be labelled as a pussy everywhere in the league now.
If he does go to law school, it will follow him there as well.
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If he does go to law school, it will follow him there as well.
Parker, can't you see this is just because Martin is black and Incognito is white?
If the roles were reversed, Obama would be holding a press conference.
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See what happens when we give everyone a little league trophy.Hes aproduct of that gen.or they commit suicide. "The enlightend ones" won't stop until get alll will to survive out of everyone.anyone with any will goes to prison.
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The voicemail left on martin's phone
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9926139&src=desktop
"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f------ mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
Discuss.
That's it? I was expecting much worse with all the stink that's being raised over this.
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Side note, big body small arms...
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This is the guy they claim is fucking with Martin. Richie Incognito. Long time NFL hell raiser and thug. :D
This is the kind of guy we need to keep shizzo in order.
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This is the kind of guy we need to keep shizzo in order.
It drive him to drink more.
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Side note, big body small arms...
My friend owned a bar in Fort Lauderdale. Incognito came in there twice and got pretty sloshed. He didnt peel though.
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He extorted 15k? Get the hell out of here...and dude gave up the money? So, Icognito felt that he Could extort him, and it proved right, and because of this there is no respect that he has for Martin. Had Martin been like, "whatever" and they had a go in the locker room, regardless of who won, it would have been over.
Shocking how after that voicemail he didn't bring a baseball bat and unload on incognito... That's what I would have done and left the voicemail playing on loop when I walked out.
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hes 6'3 320 and full of roids
id kill this guy playing o line
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I know what it is... "I'll shit in your mothers mouth" or whatever that quote is.
Martin saved that message for months. He got mad and stormed out on Friday. Dude played it for his parents, and they insisted he call a lawyer. Mom was embarrassed that people were talking about shitting in her mouth. THEY WANTED DRAMA... The attorney could have quietly contacted the coach, and you can BET incognito would be settled down or quietly traded fast. INSTEAD, they call the media and do everything they can to make it a nationwide issue.
If Martin wants to solve the prob, use the lawyer to get Ingocnito booted or disciplined. Martin didn't want that. He wanted the whole country to know, so he went public. I'm sure things like this do happen in pro sports... and we never hear about it.
Martin was 100% right to be fed up with that fat prick bully... but no need to go national with the story. That coach would have done anything Martin asked to keep it quiet.
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Martin will never play another down in the NFL.Guys in the NFL still side with Incognito. Martin broke the code, no one will ever trust him in the locker room. He is looked at as soft, should have gotten in Incognitos face and stood up to him! It's the NFL not the business world, these guys want to know on the field that everyone has their back! Incognito won't be playing for the Dolphins,but will certainly be on an NFL team before Martin!
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So, did Martin go to the Dolphins on previous occasions to intercede and they ignored him, or did he just walk out on the team?
Something doesn't seem right. Either Martin is gay, or Incognito was told by the team to toughen him up.
Either way, Incognito may never play in the NFL again.
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Martin will never play another down in the NFL.Guys in the NFL still side with Incognito. Martin broke the code, no one will ever trust him in the locker room. He is looked at as soft, should have gotten in Incognitos face and stood up to him! It's the NFL not the business world, these guys want to know on the field that everyone has their back! Incognito won't be playing for the Dolphins,but will certainly be on an NFL team before Martin!
THIS!
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The only way Martin could make headlines was by doing something like this. The guy's blocking represents that of a human turnstile. He would be better suited at the entrance of Dolphins stadium, not on the o-line. Softer than puppy shit.
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Sounds like the Dolphins coach ordered a Code Red. Richie just carried out the order.
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The way the Dolphins teammates were talking - - - They all say they heard nothing wrong and it really sounds like they want incognito back.
True, he's a fat moron psycho with a 65 IQ. But in a league where drunk drivers kill people, and QBs shoot/strangle hundreds of dogs... and they play again... I would have to bet a dude that used the slur and bullied someone will be in the NFC next season.
Something not sitting right - Martin may not return this season, or ever... WHY? Bully is gone. Team welcoming him back with open arms. Every feels sorry for him. O-line loses TWO players now. My Q is... what was his objective in going public? To get bully fired? To make his workplace better? Why quit, then?
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Would be ironic if Martin goes to Law School and winds up being Incognito attorney in the future on a very serious case due to him continuing his "ways".
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Sounds like the Dolphins coach ordered a Code Red. Richie just carried out the order.
they couldnt handle the truth....
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everyone knows as a man, you dont go running and telling tales, thats for women and children.. this bodes in all walks of life, dress it up however you like but he's a big soft c.unt
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everyone knows as a man, you dont go running and telling tales, thats for women and children.. this bodes in all walks of life, dress it up however you like but he's a big soft c.unt
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What is Martin 6'5" and 300lbs? Bullied? Oh brother. What a joke.
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Unless you are a schoolchild bullying doesent exist. A grown man complaining he is being bullied is pathetic.
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Unless you are a schoolchild bullying doesent exist. A grown man complaining he is being bullied is pathetic.
This. If this guy being treated so badly go to coaches. He was a 2nd rd pick and with that investment , they would have dealt with it.
My take is that this guy was bombing badly and Incognito thought in his warped mind he was helping him. Throw out the dumbass racial bullshit. Ive heard the n-bomb thrown around on every tem I have played on. And also in the military. No big deal, but the media is clinging to it. This guy saw the writing on the wall that he wasnt going to cut it and is now trying to cash in.
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One thing is certain, Richie Incognito sure couldn't stay Incognito / Anonymous after this deed! :D
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more and more players - this time NYG - saying it's the fault of Martin for letting himself be bullied. He didn't HAVE to go to dinner, smile and take selfies, and pay the bill. He didn't have to pay for a trip for teammates he didn't even attend. Pundits are attacking them for saying it - but more and more players are saying it. Everyone now admits MIA locker room wants Incognito back - not martin.
There were players from MIA - one dude said he's 190 pounds and he'd have told Incognito where to stick it. I believe him. 99% of dudes would allow for a little hazing, but really, dude is 1/2 way thru his SECOND season and he's still getting punked? Come on.
Martin was an average player and Incognito - despite being a fat idiotic psycho - was a star at his position. Martin could have handled this behind closed doors and gotten the "bullying" to stop. He wanted an audience.
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more and more players - this time NYG - saying it's the fault of Martin for letting himself be bullied. He didn't HAVE to go to dinner, smile and take selfies, and pay the bill. He didn't have to pay for a trip for teammates he didn't even attend. Pundits are attacking them for saying it - but more and more players are saying it. Everyone now admits MIA locker room wants Incognito back - not martin.
There were players from MIA - one dude said he's 190 pounds and he'd have told Incognito where to stick it. I believe him. 99% of dudes would allow for a little hazing, but really, dude is 1/2 way thru his SECOND season and he's still getting punked? Come on.
Martin was an average player and Incognito - despite being a fat idiotic psycho - was a star at his position. Martin could have handled this behind closed doors and gotten the "bullying" to stop. He wanted an audience.
Agree. My post above pretty much says the same thing. The racist nonsense is getting so much attention. Give me a break. Part of the culture. Like it or not.
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Agree. My post above pretty much says the same thing. The racist nonsense is getting so much attention. Give me a break. Part of the culture. Like it or not.
If the NFL wants to remove that ugly word - they remove it across the board. Use it, and you're out. Riley Cooper received ZERO discipline from NFL for using it in a really disrespectful way - So if the NFL won't touch him for that, then they cannot touch Incognito for it here.
If the NFL wants to ban Incognito for saying "I'll kill you" or insulting moms, then they are gonna have to suspend a whole lotta people every Sunday.
If the NFL wants to ban Incognito for bullying, that's a HUGE step... cause people drive drunk, shoot dogs, shoot guns in night clubs, involved in double murders (ray lewis) and they're back in the league as soon as jail/trial ends.
Dolphins are probably gonna drop Incognito, but I'd be SHOCKED if the NFL bans him. In the end, we'll probably learn Martin didn't want to play anymore, and this voicemail was his ticket out of the NFL. We're hearing he is thinking of law school - he doesn't have that NFL dream anymore, and Incognito, a fat moronic racist, seems to have given Martin that "pass" to leave a violent game of football that he probably wasn't tough enough to play.
It's like saving a voicemail proving your chick is cheating - then playing it a month later for an audience so you can break up with her without appearing to be an a$$hole. You didn't have the balls to just say "I'm done with this". now it can be someone else's fault, but waiting a month to release it, and using it as a reason to quit the NFL, hmmm.......
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If the NFL wants to remove that ugly word - they remove it across the board. Use it, and you're out. Riley Cooper received ZERO discipline from NFL for using it in a really disrespectful way - So if the NFL won't touch him for that, then they cannot touch Incognito for it here.
If the NFL wants to ban Incognito for saying "I'll kill you" or insulting moms, then they are gonna have to suspend a whole lotta people every Sunday.
If the NFL wants to ban Incognito for bullying, that's a HUGE step... cause people drive drunk, shoot dogs, shoot guns in night clubs, involved in double murders (ray lewis) and they're back in the league as soon as jail/trial ends.
Dolphins are probably gonna drop Incognito, but I'd be SHOCKED if the NFL bans him. In the end, we'll probably learn Martin didn't want to play anymore, and this voicemail was his ticket out of the NFL. We're hearing he is thinking of law school - he doesn't have that NFL dream anymore, and Incognito, a fat moronic racist, seems to have given Martin that "pass" to leave a violent game of football that he probably wasn't tough enough to play.
It's like saving a voicemail proving your chick is cheating - then playing it a month later for an audience so you can break up with her without appearing to be an a$$hole. You didn't have the balls to just say "I'm done with this". now it can be someone else's fault, but waiting a month to release it, and using it as a reason to quit the NFL, hmmm.......
That trash talk goes on every week on the field in the NFL, guys spitting on each other, talking shit about mothers and wife's! No way Incognito gets banned, the players union should have a field day with this!
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Omar Kelly from the Sun Sentinel in Ft.Laud, reported that the coaches told Incognito to toughen up Martin! There will be some coaches fired before all this is done!
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Martin will never play another down in the NFL.Guys in the NFL still side with Incognito. Martin broke the code, no one will ever trust him in the locker room. He is looked at as soft, should have gotten in Incognitos face and stood up to him! It's the NFL not the business world, these guys want to know on the field that everyone has their back! Incognito won't be playing for the Dolphins,but will certainly be on an NFL team before Martin!
Players don't determine who plays, coaches and owners do.....and there's no fucking code in any sports league. Honestly I could care less who plays and who doesn't, they weren't exactly of the Reggie White caliber
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poor babies!
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That trash talk goes on every week on the field in the NFL, guys spitting on each other, talking shit about mothers and wife's! No way Incognito gets banned, the players union should have a field day with this!
yeah, S Jackson called out the punk defender 2 weeks ago - the DB googled the guy's wife's name and info and talked shit about that while covering him, hoping to get inside his head. If that's not bullying, I dunno what is. "I'll fck your wife whose name is Susie and is 30 years old" seems WORSE than "I'll shit in your moms mouth".
Martin is getting more and more negative feedback from players and pundits now. ESPN no longer sympathizing with him. Everyone keeps asking "Why QUIT FOOTBALL because of one bully that isn't there anymore?"
It's a legit question.
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Players don't determine who plays, coaches and owners do.....and there's no fucking code in any sports league. Honestly I could care less who plays and who doesn't, they weren't exactly of the Reggie White caliber
Vince you have no idea what you are talking about! Have you listened to any interviews of players? It's an unwritten code, it's about having you're fellow teammates backs, ie team! Caliber of player has nothing to do with what were talking about! I am from Philly I loved Reggie White!
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What I don't get is that these tweets and texts are from April. It is November. So what happened between then to make him quit?
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What I don't get is that these tweets and texts are from April. It is November. So what happened between then to make him quit?
prolly continued verbal harrassment i'd think- moreso homophpobic than racial? like i doubt incognito would drop the 'n' word in a lockeroom that is predominately black, so im thinking anti gay sentiment.
about martin being a baby etc- harrassment is harrassment. its not acceptable in america anymore. it doesnt matter what 'you' think is acceptable. its about what the person affected deems acceptable. thats what this investigation is really about. its basically become an HR issue.
that being said the NFL could set an anti bullying precedence here that would really resonate with kids, their parents, and the general public in a time of anti bullying awareness campaigns. i cant watch tv for 2 hours without seeing an anti bullying ad now. last year i didnt even know this was a problem. its become a very big deal.
i dont agree with martin being villianised in the media, but i do agree he needs to man up now and return to, or make known his intent to return to the team. for all we know the NFL has asked him to not return until they have done their investigation so the media could be unfairly painting him.
i'll be curious to see where it goes from here. hopefully something good comes of it, as opposed to the stone throwing were seeing now.
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He was struggling this year. After throwing the lunch tray and leaving last week, he checked himself into a "facility" for mental health/emotional distress.
Ricky Williams, perhaps the most famous case of "meltdown, quit NFL, smoke pot and hike thru europe cause he hated the pressure of NFL" gave an interview today in which he said he believes Martin is just tired of playing, doesn't need the money (family is wealthy) and just wants to quit - So he's using Incognito as a scapegoat.
By the way everyone on the team is defending Incognito...
Due to Martin refusing to come back...
By the time 4 weeks passes, I'm betting MIA might not even cut Cognito. Maybe a trade, maybe they just quietly let him come back. If Martin just wanted to quit, and decided to blame another dude, I can't see the hate for incognito sticking.
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He was struggling this year. After throwing the lunch tray and leaving last week, he checked himself into a "facility" for mental health/emotional distress.
Ricky Williams, perhaps the most famous case of "meltdown, quit NFL, smoke pot and hike thru europe cause he hated the pressure of NFL" gave an interview today in which he said he believes Martin is just tired of playing, doesn't need the money (family is wealthy) and just wants to quit - So he's using Incognito as a scapegoat.
By the way everyone on the team is defending Incognito...
Due to Martin refusing to come back...
By the time 4 weeks passes, I'm betting MIA might not even cut Cognito. Maybe a trade, maybe they just quietly let him come back. If Martin just wanted to quit, and decided to blame another dude, I can't see the hate for incognito sticking.
240, was Martin close to being cut by the team and decided to take this way out?
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240, was Martin close to being cut by the team and decided to take this way out?
I dont know. Incognito was rated very high but Martin was having trouble - Coaches had asked Incognito to work with him, to toughen him up, because the QB was getting smashed so much. They tried changing martin on sides as well, he didn't like the change. So it is safe to say Martin was ineffective recently, yes. No idea if he was close to being cut, but he was struggling and their O-line had moved to the bottom third of the league, despite having Incognito.
There is video of Pouncey (a black player) and Incognito (white) using the N-word and laughing. ESPN radio reporting at 345pm that players now saying Martin was an outsider, they called him "Big Weirdo" and that people need to HEAR the voicemail, not just the transcript. Martin skipped a week of training camp, was 10 pounds overweight, and had blown off O-line training, so the team vets were told by the coach to call him and get him to camp. He was about to start year 2 of career and was weak at his position. He needed the help.
So Incognito, comfy using the N-word because Pouncey and other "gave him the okay, as an honorary brother, and more of one than Martin was" (This is the quote paraphrased from ESPN 770), CALLED Martin and left that voicemail. He said he'd shit in his mom's mouth, etc. But MIA players claim it was funny, a joke, and that hearing the recording will prove that. Martin will only release the transcript.
So who knows... Incognito is, without a doubt, a psycopath, I dont think anyone can doubt that lol. But it sounds like martin is using him to get out of the NFL before he's cut, or that Martin is just crazy... a lot of us are. Checking himself into a facility, then flying home to stay with parents instead of being with team...
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I dont know. Incognito was rated very high but Martin was having trouble - Coaches had asked Incognito to work with him, to toughen him up, because the QB was getting smashed so much. They tried changing martin on sides as well, he didn't like the change. So it is safe to say Martin was ineffective recently, yes. No idea if he was close to being cut, but he was struggling and their O-line had moved to the bottom third of the league, despite having Incognito.
There is video of Pouncey (a black player) and Incognito (white) using the N-word and laughing. ESPN radio reporting at 345pm that players now saying Martin was an outsider, they called him "Big Weirdo" and that people need to HEAR the voicemail, not just the transcript. Martin skipped a week of training camp, was 10 pounds overweight, and had blown off O-line training, so the team vets were told by the coach to call him and get him to camp. He was about to start year 2 of career and was weak at his position. He needed the help.
So Incognito, comfy using the N-word because Pouncey and other "gave him the okay, as an honorary brother, and more of one than Martin was" (This is the quote paraphrased from ESPN 770), CALLED Martin and left that voicemail. He said he'd shit in his mom's mouth, etc. But MIA players claim it was funny, a joke, and that hearing the recording will prove that. Martin will only release the transcript.
So who knows... Incognito is, without a doubt, a psycopath, I dont think anyone can doubt that lol. But it sounds like martin is using him to get out of the NFL before he's cut, or that Martin is just crazy... a lot of us are. Checking himself into a facility, then flying home to stay with parents instead of being with team...
Nice recap. I agree with your opinion about Martin. Strange dude. All the way strange dude.
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He was struggling this year. After throwing the lunch tray and leaving last week, he checked himself into a "facility" for mental health/emotional distress.
Ricky Williams, perhaps the most famous case of "meltdown, quit NFL, smoke pot and hike thru europe cause he hated the pressure of NFL" gave an interview today in which he said he believes Martin is just tired of playing, doesn't need the money (family is wealthy) and just wants to quit - So he's using Incognito as a scapegoat.
By the way everyone on the team is defending Incognito...
Due to Martin refusing to come back...
By the time 4 weeks passes, I'm betting MIA might not even cut Cognito. Maybe a trade, maybe they just quietly let him come back. If Martin just wanted to quit, and decided to blame another dude, I can't see the hate for incognito sticking.
Ricky was on with Sid Rosenberg this morning on 640 AM in Miami! He thinks that it possibly will be his way out, and can get him a payday in court or settlement where this will probably end up! I am pretty sure that both of his parents are attorneys! This could be a brilliant strategy to get him out of football and get him payed!
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Puncey isn't a saint either. Isn't he being indicted for money laundering or tax evasion?
I dont know. Incognito was rated very high but Martin was having trouble - Coaches had asked Incognito to work with him, to toughen him up, because the QB was getting smashed so much. They tried changing martin on sides as well, he didn't like the change. So it is safe to say Martin was ineffective recently, yes. No idea if he was close to being cut, but he was struggling and their O-line had moved to the bottom third of the league, despite having Incognito.
There is video of Pouncey (a black player) and Incognito (white) using the N-word and laughing. ESPN radio reporting at 345pm that players now saying Martin was an outsider, they called him "Big Weirdo" and that people need to HEAR the voicemail, not just the transcript. Martin skipped a week of training camp, was 10 pounds overweight, and had blown off O-line training, so the team vets were told by the coach to call him and get him to camp. He was about to start year 2 of career and was weak at his position. He needed the help.
So Incognito, comfy using the N-word because Pouncey and other "gave him the okay, as an honorary brother, and more of one than Martin was" (This is the quote paraphrased from ESPN 770), CALLED Martin and left that voicemail. He said he'd shit in his mom's mouth, etc. But MIA players claim it was funny, a joke, and that hearing the recording will prove that. Martin will only release the transcript.
So who knows... Incognito is, without a doubt, a psycopath, I dont think anyone can doubt that lol. But it sounds like martin is using him to get out of the NFL before he's cut, or that Martin is just crazy... a lot of us are. Checking himself into a facility, then flying home to stay with parents instead of being with team...
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prolly continued verbal harrassment i'd think- moreso homophpobic than racial? like i doubt incognito would drop the 'n' word in a lockeroom that is predominately black, so im thinking anti gay sentiment.
about martin being a baby etc- harrassment is harrassment. its not acceptable in america anymore. it doesnt matter what 'you' think is acceptable. its about what the person affected deems acceptable. thats what this investigation is really about. its basically become an HR issue.
that being said the NFL could set an anti bullying precedence here that would really resonate with kids, their parents, and the general public in a time of anti bullying awareness campaigns. i cant watch tv for 2 hours without seeing an anti bullying ad now. last year i didnt even know this was a problem. its become a very big deal.
i dont agree with martin being villianised in the media, but i do agree he needs to man up now and return to, or make known his intent to return to the team. for all we know the NFL has asked him to not return until they have done their investigation so the media could be unfairly painting him.
i'll be curious to see where it goes from here. hopefully something good comes of it, as opposed to the stone throwing were seeing now.
Basically it boils down to not having a thick skin. More "victims"...this whole nation is becoming nothing more than a nation of victims. Not about growing that thick skin, looking that person in the eye, and and dusting your shoulders off and saying, "the eff you say?"
No, we must talk about having our feelings hurt, and how it made us have bad self esteem. Where are the winners. The ones that championed over their "tormentors"?
Where are the people who handled their ish and crushed and overcame the situation and garnered a new sense of self respect and personal growth?
Obviously, someone felt that another person was "weaker" than them, and obviously, someone felt that they were being singled out, and possibly couldn't deal with it.
I am not condoning Incognito's actions, for they are wrong. But I believe it is up to Martin to handle his own situation with that man, not the organization.
Now, that being said, we don't know if it was because he was "weak" or a weak link, or due to sexuality, or both. But it seems like two grown ass men could have handled it like two grown ass men, with each other. And then squashed it.
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This thing is going to end up in court, just like Bountygate in New Orleans!
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My guess is that Martin was on his way to being cut anyway.
No rookie in their right mind would jeopardize their whole NFL career because of one or two nasty players.
And how was Martin being extorted financially (blackmailed or threatened)?
Martin did nothing illegal to allow someone to extort.
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The code red came from the very top...The owner...This is the owner that was in the news when his general manager Jeff Ireland asked Dez Bryant if his mother was a prostitute during an interview Dez had with the team...Jeff Ireland is considered by many to be a complete piece of shit. And owner Steve Ross hired Ireland and continues to employ him...
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Dolphins are probably gonna drop Incognito, but I'd be SHOCKED if the NFL bans him. In the end, we'll probably learn Martin didn't want to play anymore, and this voicemail was his ticket out of the NFL. We're hearing he is thinking of law school - he doesn't have that NFL dream anymore, and Incognito, a fat moronic racist, seems to have given Martin that "pass" to leave a violent game of football that he probably wasn't tough enough to play.
So who wins in the end? hehe. Whatever the way you win, isnt the point to win ? And martin will be respected as a nice guy who couldnt take it anymore while angry fatty always remembered as a bully by...everyone. On a side note, it's always fun to see someone getting bullied, until you re the one getting bullied...Cant players just fucking play the game enjoy their millions? no? they have to insult and belittle each others just like fucking kids? For these people playing sport is a job. Do you want someone to humiliate you using his/her position of power as a tool at your workplace? Wouldnt you prefer to be around decent respectful people focused on their job instead of stiring shit with others? Since when is it ok to push someone who's showing weaknesses hoping to see hi fail? Well it s pretty fair then in return martin owned this asshole the way he did. We ll see incognito crash into flames in some years from now anyway.
All of you supporting the macho man behavior and bravado etc...wait until you get older and life gets tougher as your stamina decreases... Also, since when acting like a mature man automatically means being "gay" ? There are many ways to get respect, instilling fear or belittling other is just one of them for those who cant do better. Incognito prolly just called him a n***er and a fag cause he was softer and more educated than him. Well, nice job letting the person you insult record it.
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The code red came from the very top...The owner...This is the owner that was in the news when his general manager Jeff Ireland asked Dez Bryant if his mother was a prostitute during an interview Dez had with the team...Jeff Ireland is considered by many to be a complete piece of shit. And owner Steve Ross hired Ireland and continues to employ him...
That quote was taken out of context, dez said his mother worked for a pimp. So Jeff Ireland asked the logical question
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I dont know. Incognito was rated very high but Martin was having trouble - Coaches had asked Incognito to work with him, to toughen him up, because the QB was getting smashed so much. They tried changing martin on sides as well, he didn't like the change. So it is safe to say Martin was ineffective recently, yes. No idea if he was close to being cut, but he was struggling and their O-line had moved to the bottom third of the league, despite having Incognito.
There is video of Pouncey (a black player) and Incognito (white) using the N-word and laughing. ESPN radio reporting at 345pm that players now saying Martin was an outsider, they called him "Big Weirdo" and that people need to HEAR the voicemail, not just the transcript. Martin skipped a week of training camp, was 10 pounds overweight, and had blown off O-line training, so the team vets were told by the coach to call him and get him to camp. He was about to start year 2 of career and was weak at his position. He needed the help.
So Incognito, comfy using the N-word because Pouncey and other "gave him the okay, as an honorary brother, and more of one than Martin was" (This is the quote paraphrased from ESPN 770), CALLED Martin and left that voicemail. He said he'd shit in his mom's mouth, etc. But MIA players claim it was funny, a joke, and that hearing the recording will prove that. Martin will only release the transcript.
So who knows... Incognito is, without a doubt, a psycopath, I dont think anyone can doubt that lol. But it sounds like martin is using him to get out of the NFL before he's cut, or that Martin is just crazy... a lot of us are. Checking himself into a facility, then flying home to stay with parents instead of being with team...
Good post
I think Martin is lazy and looking for an easy pay day at everybody else's expense. He's a Quitter and will prob give bullying speeches at schools and dr Phil for cash, then a book. A lot easier than working out and blocking a 320lb DT. The fact he handled the problem out of house tells you what kind of snake he is. Bullying in the nfl LMAO if you buy that...
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So who wins in the end? hehe. Whatever the way you win, isnt the point to win ? And martin will be respected as a nice guy who couldnt take it anymore while angry fatty always remembered as a bully by...everyone. On a side note, it's always fun to see someone getting bullied, until you re the one getting bullied...Cant players just fucking play the game enjoy their millions? no? they have to insult and belittle each others just like fucking kids? For these people playing sport is a job. Do you want someone to humiliate you using his/her position of power as a tool at your workplace? Wouldnt you prefer to be around decent respectful people focused on their job instead of stiring shit with others? Since when is it ok to push someone who's showing weaknesses hoping to see hi fail? Well it s pretty fair then in return martin owned this asshole the way he did. We ll see incognito crash into flames in some years from now anyway.
All of you supporting the macho man behavior and bravado etc...wait until you get older and life gets tougher as your stamina decreases... Also, since when acting like a mature man automatically means being "gay" ? There are many ways to get respect, instilling fear or belittling other is just one of them for those who cant do better. Incognito prolly just called him a n***er and a fag cause he was softer and more educated than him. Well, nice job letting the person you insult record it.
Nice guys finished win last?
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Nice guys finished win last?
life is still long for both of them, we ll count points in the very end. You cant deny the fact martin got things to work the way he wanted them to be while incognito is forced to do stuff he didnt plan to do.
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Wat a bunch of compleet HORSESHIT!! Leave it to the libral meedia to try and take down one of the best offencive linemens the NFL has ever scene!! FOR WHAT?!! TELL ME!! Caus he gets emotional on the field of battel?! HES A LEADER!! Caus he tried to help his team by getting rid of a DRUG ATTIC?!! He should be rewarded NOT suspendered!!! How come no one is talking bout WHY drug Martin is trying to kill himself??! Caus of Richies funny pranks?!! NO!! Its beecause he was jellus of Richie and all his talent!! THATS the story peeple! Richie tried to do what team needed and HELP MARTIN get better!! Make Martin take the piss test, I demand his piss!! If someone can’t laugh at pranks than they shouldnt be playing NFL FOOTBALL!!! I watched football back from 1950 and saw all the greatest pranksters ever! Cognito ranks as one of the BEST! Now Dolphins loose not only best oline player but also best prankster FOR A DRUG ATTIC!!? Cant weight until Richie is doin pranks for Jets next year!! Guys in that lockerroom will love the excitemint and suprizes that Richie brings to the team!! Regis Philbin is gonna WISH he had him back!!! This is all gonna come out in the wash fokes! I will just keep sittin here praying that Kathy Ireland and Regis Philbin get all the AIDS you can get! Every last drop! ALL OF IT!!! Wait for the wash to come out!! WAIT!! Then you will see that MARTIN has been doing all the drugs that he wants! Pills, cokes, herrowins needles, dope, TLC!! EVERYTHING!!! Get his piss! If you guys were true fans you would get all of his piss for the test, Then you gonna say that I was RIGHT and that MARTIN should just be suicided already!! Gonna be too late for Cognito to SAVE you than!!! JUST WAIT!!!!!
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One of the best lineman? Really?
If he was one of the best, why has he been on like 5 teams since he entered the league... The best doesn't get moved around like that.
You make me laugh.
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Good post
I think Martin is lazy and looking for an easy pay day at everybody else's expense. He's a Quitter and will prob give bullying speeches at schools and dr Phil for cash, then a book. A lot easier than working out and blocking a 320lb DT. The fact he handled the problem out of house tells you what kind of snake he is. Bullying in the nfl LMAO if you buy that...
Listening to ESPN... the network ,the dolphins, and most pundits have now turned against Martin.
Teammates said until last week, Incognito was the only one that stuck up for Martin when others picked on him. Sounds like he didn't have dirt on them (he did have the voicemail). Checking into the hospital gave him the medical record he will need for court.
My belief is that martin and his parents worked this out. He was struggling in the NFL, he probably would have been let go or traded in the off-season, they probably would have drafted for his position. He knew it. SO he decided to make up a reason "workplace harassment", he decided to quit and seek medical treatment "REALLY? emotional distress, so you go to the hospital?" Then he got a lawyer, released a transcript to make dude look bad, then went home to parents while they wait for the NFL to offer a settlement.
He's got it all figured out... BUT it never happens that way. We'll start to see pics and tweets of them being best buddies during the time when martin was claiming he was a victim. We'll hear the voicemail, and maybe it'll have him laughing and being friendly with "I'm gonna shit in your mom's mouth!" Who knows.
I'm not saying incognito isn't a psycho. He clearly is. Obnoxious. But most people are now saying Martin is just trying to make up a reason to sue the NFL now.
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I read that one of his teammates said Martin was playing that voicemail during camp and laughing about it.
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November 06, 2013
About that voice mail again ... new information
On its face it is horrible. It is offensive. It sounds racist.
The voice mail Richie Incognito left Jonathan Martin in April is at the center of the public distaste for the Dolphins guard. The transcript indeed paints a picture of a bullying veteran using racial epithets against a younger player and threatening that youngster's life:
"Hey, wassup, you half-n----r piece of (expletive). I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. I'll (expletive) in your (expletive) mouth. I'm gonna slap your (expletive) mouth, I'm gonna slap your real mother across the face. (laughter). (Expletive) you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
Damning.
Except ...
The voice mail which Martin kept was later played in the Dolphins locker room around a group of players ... And Martin was the one who played it, according to two players. And he joked about it.
"This is the same guy that was laughing about this voice mail at one point in time, first of all," receiver Brian Hartline said of Martin. "Second of all, I believe that if you look through the whole voice mail, there's some things said that you probably shouldn't say in general, friends or not friends. But I know for a fact, that I've said things to my friends that I kind of wish I've never said, either."
There's another thing. According to a source close to Incognito, the transcript of the voice mail is not complete. It omits the last line.
After Incognito went on this apparent diatribe, his voice softens, and matter-of-factly he says, "Ok, call me back."
And ... Martin called him back, the source said.
Does this release Incognito from the racially charged words? No.
Do this add context? Yes.
Daily reminder: We don't know the entire story. Please withhold judgment condemning or condoning either side until we know everything.
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/#storylink=cpy
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Martin-Jordan got into scuffle, Incognito intervened
Last week before he left the team under apparent emotional duress of some sort and well before his camp claimed workplace harassment at the hands of teammate Richie Incognito, offensive tackle Jonathan Martin got into a practice scuffle with rookie Dion Jordan.
Such exchanges, by the way, are not uncommon. They happen plenty.
And, as receiver Brian Hartline related to me in the locker room today, the first person who went to Martin's defense in the fight was, you guessed it, Richie Incognito. And soon center Mike Pouncey was in on it as well on Martin's behalf.
Randy Starks confirmed the little battle as well and said defensive linemen then joined in on behalf of Jordan.
It went as one would expect it to go except ...
The narrative out there is that Incognito was a Martin tormentor who wanted to toughen him up. Well, if Incognito wants Martin toughened up, why would help him in a fight?
The narrative out there is that Martin is physically soft. Well, actually, I've seen Martin in more than a couple of practice tussles and I've seen him take shots at opponents during games. During his rookie year he got into a fight on the field with Starks, who is one tough man, the first week of training camp.
Afterward, Hartline told me, both Incognito and Pouncey were upset with him because in some form or fashion Hartline seemed to agree with Jordan about the exchange.
So even on a non-physical level, Incognito and Pouncey had Martin's back after the fact.
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/#storylink=cpy
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tannehill came out and said there's nobody he'd rather play football with then incognito. quite an endorsement.
the truth is coming out now.
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WOW... big news there...
So what's the deal... Coach told martin he had X days to improve or he'd be cut? Rather than be cut and fail, he sets all of this up?
Put on a public meltdown, so it's documented.
Run to hospital for "mental health", so it's documented.
Post PARTIAL transcript of a voicemail, documenting public opinion and putting heat on NFL.
Retreat to cali, abandon team, stay with parents and start lawsuit.
What an odd story. IF this is the case, it's bad... at least ricky williams just said he didn't wanna play anymore. Sounds like the two of them were really good friends, lots of 'selfie' pics together on trips having fun, lots of retweets. Players keep saying it over and over.
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WOW... big news there...
So what's the deal... Coach told martin he had X days to improve or he'd be cut? Rather than be cut and fail, he sets all of this up?
Put on a public meltdown, so it's documented.
Run to hospital for "mental health", so it's documented.
Post PARTIAL transcript of a voicemail, documenting public opinion and putting heat on NFL.
Retreat to cali, abandon team, stay with parents and start lawsuit.
What an odd story. IF this is the case, it's bad... at least ricky williams just said he didn't wanna play anymore. Sounds like the two of them were really good friends, lots of 'selfie' pics together on trips having fun, lots of retweets. Players keep saying it over and over.
Lawsuit Lawsuit Lawsuit!
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At this point, MIA organization and ESPN seem to have completely changed their positions. Skip Bayliss APOLOGIZED to Incognito today.
Guest after guest after guest... and the big one, "Martin played the voicemail for everyone, while laughing", finally made it out!
Martin wanted to quit. He did. And right now, Martin has to be feeling the heat... he's at home with mom & dad, and the fairy tale he told them about being bullied is coming unraveled.
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WOW... big news there...
So what's the deal... Coach told martin he had X days to improve or he'd be cut? Rather than be cut and fail, he sets all of this up?
Put on a public meltdown, so it's documented.
Run to hospital for "mental health", so it's documented.
Post PARTIAL transcript of a voicemail, documenting public opinion and putting heat on NFL.
Retreat to cali, abandon team, stay with parents and start lawsuit.
What an odd story. IF this is the case, it's bad... at least ricky williams just said he didn't wanna play anymore. Sounds like the two of them were really good friends, lots of 'selfie' pics together on trips having fun, lots of retweets. Players keep saying it over and over.
Yep, it's all starting to come out now that Martin fabricated a lot of stuff to seem like a victim...your last statement are they trying to say that Ricky Williams and Martin have a thing going on?
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Yep, it's all starting to come out now that Martin fabricated a lot of stuff to seem like a victim...your last statement are they trying to say that Ricky Williams and Martin have a thing going on?
Maybe, Martin is gay don't think Ricky is, he's married with kids, he is a very articulate sensitive dude though, you never know! Think Martin, was in contact with Ricky during all of this because of Ricky's situation, looking for advice!
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Yep, it's all starting to come out now that Martin fabricated a lot of stuff to seem like a victim...your last statement are they trying to say that Ricky Williams and Martin have a thing going on?
Ricky williams, who quit the NFL some 10 years ago to backpack thru europe and get high - He was the first person to suggest maybe Martin just wanted to quit, and this was his creative way of doing so. Ricky said something like "At least I didn't have to smear a teammate to do it".
My guess - Martin is 24 years old. In his head, he worked out this complex plan to get out of the NFL before he is cut, to get a settlement pile of $, to play the victim, and to knock down Incognito, whom he sucked up to but secretly hated for being the dominant alpha and more widely accepted than he was.
On paper, it makes sense... Attack the dude with a bully reputation, save that voicemail using the N-word, check into a mental health facility to show just how "hurt" he is, retreat to parent's house, let it all blow over, enjoy a pile of $ from the NFL, get pity of people, and Incognito gets kicked outta league. For a total beta hater, hey, this is a decent enough plan for an average intelligence, soft 24 year old, right?
Now it's coming unraveled, of course. Once ESPN smelled it was fishy, they opened up the interviews and now we're learning the truth. Yes, Incognito had no business using the word, but when black teammates were making him 'honorary', he thought it was okay. Yes, Incognito is an obnoxious d-bag... but now we're seeing he got Martin out of a few jams and saved his asss a few times in fights, stood up for him, etc.
There's way more to this story than we know now... the more that comes out, the more it appears to be just like that Manti Teo situation... Just a shady young kid with a plan to dupe everyone... and the minute people smell shady (in this case, when martin didn't return to play football, instead getting a lawyer and starting a PR campaign prepping for a lawsuit), everyone realized he was making it up.
Incognito is certainly getting hit with all the bad karma he's collected over the years - Millions of people who had never heard of him now hate him.
Martin... IF he was just trying to engineer a situation to quit football with $10 mil settlement and punk the dude he was jealous of all along... it won't work.
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Ricky williams, who quit the NFL some 10 years ago to backpack thru europe and get high - He was the first person to suggest maybe Martin just wanted to quit, and this was his creative way of doing so. Ricky said something like "At least I didn't have to smear a teammate to do it".
My guess - Martin is 24 years old. In his head, he worked out this complex plan to get out of the NFL before he is cut, to get a settlement pile of $, to play the victim, and to knock down Incognito, whom he sucked up to but secretly hated for being the dominant alpha and more widely accepted than he was.
On paper, it makes sense... Attack the dude with a bully reputation, save that voicemail using the N-word, check into a mental health facility to show just how "hurt" he is, retreat to parent's house, let it all blow over, enjoy a pile of $ from the NFL, get pity of people, and Incognito gets kicked outta league. For a total beta hater, hey, this is a decent enough plan for an average intelligence, soft 24 year old, right?
Now it's coming unraveled, of course. Once ESPN smelled it was fishy, they opened up the interviews and now we're learning the truth. Yes, Incognito had no business using the word, but when black teammates were making him 'honorary', he thought it was okay. Yes, Incognito is an obnoxious d-bag... but now we're seeing he got Martin out of a few jams and saved his asss a few times in fights, stood up for him, etc.
There's way more to this story than we know now... the more that comes out, the more it appears to be just like that Manti Teo situation... Just a shady young kid with a plan to dupe everyone... and the minute people smell shady (in this case, when martin didn't return to play football, instead getting a lawyer and starting a PR campaign prepping for a lawsuit), everyone realized he was making it up.
Incognito is certainly getting hit with all the bad karma he's collected over the years - Millions of people who had never heard of him now hate him.
Martin... IF he was just trying to engineer a situation to quit football with $10 mil settlement and punk the dude he was jealous of all along... it won't work.
I said back in the thread Ricky was on the radio yesterday! He said to that if Martin planned this out cause he wanted to quit it was pretty brilliant on his behalf! Yes if he can walk away with a nice settlement and go on to do something else!
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in the end if he chose to expose icognito, that s because at some point he genuinely felt bullied by him joking or not with him afterwards so... it's all fair. Also everyone in the team sticking with inc instead of martin proves they were indeed harassing him one way or another . Again it only reinforces the veracity of his claim. If you want to destroy someone whatever the way , intensity of the attack you use, you still want to destroy him in the end, so no wonder he fought back, that's life, destroying or getting destroyed. Also the adage "everything that doesnt kill me makes me stronger" is bullshit. There are things that dont kill you on the moment, but slowly kill you over time.
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Maybe, Martin is gay don't think Ricky is, he's married with kids, he is a very articulate sensitive dude though, you never know! Think Martin, was in contact with Ricky during all of this because of Ricky's situation, looking for advice!
yeah, I didn't see the connection. You know what's funny is that RG3 reminds me a lot Ricky Williams in terms of the personality we see.
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Ricky williams, who quit the NFL some 10 years ago to backpack thru europe and get high - He was the first person to suggest maybe Martin just wanted to quit, and this was his creative way of doing so. Ricky said something like "At least I didn't have to smear a teammate to do it".
My guess - Martin is 24 years old. In his head, he worked out this complex plan to get out of the NFL before he is cut, to get a settlement pile of $, to play the victim, and to knock down Incognito, whom he sucked up to but secretly hated for being the dominant alpha and more widely accepted than he was.
On paper, it makes sense... Attack the dude with a bully reputation, save that voicemail using the N-word, check into a mental health facility to show just how "hurt" he is, retreat to parent's house, let it all blow over, enjoy a pile of $ from the NFL, get pity of people, and Incognito gets kicked outta league. For a total beta hater, hey, this is a decent enough plan for an average intelligence, soft 24 year old, right?
Now it's coming unraveled, of course. Once ESPN smelled it was fishy, they opened up the interviews and now we're learning the truth. Yes, Incognito had no business using the word, but when black teammates were making him 'honorary', he thought it was okay. Yes, Incognito is an obnoxious d-bag... but now we're seeing he got Martin out of a few jams and saved his asss a few times in fights, stood up for him, etc.
There's way more to this story than we know now... the more that comes out, the more it appears to be just like that Manti Teo situation... Just a shady young kid with a plan to dupe everyone... and the minute people smell shady (in this case, when martin didn't return to play football, instead getting a lawyer and starting a PR campaign prepping for a lawsuit), everyone realized he was making it up.
Incognito is certainly getting hit with all the bad karma he's collected over the years - Millions of people who had never heard of him now hate him.
Martin... IF he was just trying to engineer a situation to quit football with $10 mil settlement and punk the dude he was jealous of all along... it won't work.
Too damn convoluted...
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dean martin
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I said back in the thread Ricky was on the radio yesterday! He said to that if Martin planned this out cause he wanted to quit it was pretty brilliant on his behalf! Yes if he can walk away with a nice settlement and go on to do something else!
He probably got help from Mommy and Daddy.
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More Dolphins spilling the beans on Martin. He did this on purpose for a paycheck and to get outta the NFL.
yes, Ingocnito was an ass, but pretending everything is good while quietly planning to seek medical attention, get a lawyer, etc...
He wanted a paycheck. He wants a lawsuit and to be out of the legaue "because I stood up for everyone who was bullied".
The more I learn about the guy, the more I dislike him - playing the tape for people, laughing? Then going to hospital for mental distress? He's a fcking millioanire getting teased by other millionaires playing a kids game. Try facing REAL LIFE problems.
DAVIE, Fla. -- Players in the Miami Dolphins' locker room Thursday had mixed reactions to a potential return by right tackle Jonathan Martin. This came just 24 hours after many players expressed overwhelming support for guard Richie Incognito, who was suspended indefinitely Sunday for conduct detrimental to the team.
It's time for Jonathan Martin to leave Miami. The Dolphins' locker room has spoken -- and it sided with Richie Incognito, writes James Walker. Story
Martin has said he suffered harassment and was bullied by Incognito, and handed over evidence to the Dolphins, the NFL and NFLPA. ESPN obtained the transcript of a voice mail allegedly left by Incognito that included racial slurs and threats of violence.
When asked if Martin could return to Miami's locker room, the reception was lukewarm.
"I'm not sure how everybody will feel about him," left tackle Bryant McKinnie said. "That was his situation and he felt the need to do it, I guess, so be it. Some things you like to keep in house."
McKinnie, like several Dolphins veterans, blamed Martin, not Incognito, for causing a media firestorm.
"If you honestly ask me, it was a decision that Jonathan Martin made on his own to leave," McKinnie said. "There was a repercussion behind that involved Richie. That's between them now."
Many players didn't like the way Martin aired the team's dirty laundry in public.
"You kind of wish people went about it a different way," Dolphins defensive lineman Jared Odrick said. "There's other ways that this could have been handled. It's tough to speak on."
On Wednesday, Dolphins veterans provided overwhelming support for Incognito. Some said they thought Incognito and Martin were friends and were surprised by Martin's allegations.
Dolphins players were asked Thursday why Martin wasn't getting as much support in the locker room as Incognito.
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So Incognito is a racist for saying n!gger? Then EVERY white person in America is one.
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This is fucking pathetic.
"Bullying" in the fucking NFL...and people here arguing about it as a legitimate issue?
Jesus fucking Christ. Why do we even have testicles anymore?
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This is fucking pathetic.
"Bullying" in the fucking NFL...and people here arguing about it as a legitimate issue?
Jesus fucking Christ. Why do we even have testicles anymore?
Can you imagine Butkus dealing with this?
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This is fucking pathetic.
"Bullying" in the fucking NFL...and people here arguing about it as a legitimate issue?
Jesus fucking Christ. Why do we even have testicles anymore?
It's going to get worse...NBA, NHL, NASCAR, etc.
The "bully" pulpit has gotten the bully ball rolling in the American Media...
We're are becoming a nation of victims.
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New info to be released by Martin's lawyer today.
His teammates threatened to rape his sister and pull a train on her.
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Martin is 6' 4 330 lbs man up for fuck sakes. You got a problem with Incognito fight him win or lose at least you will gain some respect.
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Martin is 6' 4 330 lbs man up for fuck sakes. You got a problem with Incognito fight him win or lose at least you will gain some respect.
Exactly...
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Exactly...
wrong Parker! The dolphins had incognito as part of their leadership counsel. Incognito was given orders to toughen up Martin. This was an organized and coordinated attack at Martin. This wasn't some lone nut job on a crusade to bully Martin. Where was Martin to turn?
and lets say that he attacked Incognito and the shit escalated out of control to an extreme level?
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wrong Parker! The dolphins had incognito as part of their leadership counsel. Incognito was given orders to toughen up Martin. This was an organized and coordinated attack at Martin. This wasn't some lone nut job on a crusade to bully Martin. Where was Martin to turn?
and lets say that he attacked Incognito and the shit escalated out of control to an extreme level?
I think if Martin had a fight with Ingconito, that it wouldn't go any further. Once you show that you cannot be pushed around---regardless of who wins, what happens is that a mentality is that this person won't stand for it...
Which actually is a win-win, it shows that one will stand up for themselves and that they then become a "leader"...
Furthermore, why would there be a need for them to target Martin? You know in the wild, predators target the sick, the young, the weak, and the old...culling the herd and keeping it healthy.
Can this be thought of in the same way?
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its fucked up if its true, but I doubt it.
The NFL is almost like the last bastion of pure masculinity left in the US outside of the Rangers and Marines... Bullying in the NFL? for fucks sake, stand up for yourself. Go to the coach, play him the voicemail, tell him if the big bastard approaches you again, you are going to your car, getting a bat and knocking his ass out. This whole charade makes the NFL look gay as fuck. Wheres the toughness? What 6'4 300+ pound man lets himself get bullied. I can understand getting entrapped and blackmailed, but bullied. For fucks sake give me a fuckin break. Martin should leave the NFL and go start a cupcake business or something. This is ridiculous.
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New info to be released by Martin's lawyer today.
His teammates threatened to rape his sister and pull a train on her.
Team Martin is firing back now. This time, I want to hear the VOICEMAIL!!! No more of the selective partial transcript shit like last time. Was it "I'm going to rape your sister?" or was it "Hey brah, how bouts we come down there and take turns banging that hot ass sister of yours?" Cause one is a horrible malicious crime, and the other is some fat linemen making jokes about each others sisters.
Martin is playing a public PR war now, trying to get a quiet settlement from NFL to just "go away".
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but playing in the NFL is your job.
Would any of you work in a place that allowed any attacks like this?
I would hope not.
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I think if Martin had a fight with Ingconito, that it wouldn't go any further. Once you show that you cannot be pushed around---regardless of who wins, what happens is that a mentality is that this person won't stand for it...
Which actually is a win-win, it shows that one will stand up for themselves and that they then become a "leader"...
Furthermore, why would there be a need for them to target Martin? You know in the wild, predators target the sick, the young, the weak, and the old...culling the herd and keeping it healthy.
Can this be thought of in the same way?
of course it can, and it is exactly what is going on. But humans have way more elaborated ways to insure their survival, can play mind games etc. Also many humans are weak but kept alive because their existence justifies the jobs, salaries and survival of other men and women. Someone 's suffering is someone else 's business, way to make a living. We also keep older people alive hoping to get tips from them on how to improve our own odds of survival. And if we keep going to see them , which makes them feel better about their lives, in return they pay us with these needed advises.
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Team Martin is firing back now. This time, I want to hear the VOICEMAIL!!! No more of the selective partial transcript shit like last time. Was it "I'm going to rape your sister?" or was it "Hey brah, how bouts we come down there and take turns banging that hot ass sister of yours?" Cause one is a horrible malicious crime, and the other is some fat linemen making jokes about each others sisters.
Martin is playing a public PR war now, trying to get a quiet settlement from NFL to just "go away".
240.....the NFL will fire back hard with a PR campaign if they think they're going to be shelling out money in a series of bullying lawsuits. I still think there is more to it - I still think Martin is a closet gay.
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Jonathan Martin
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240.....the NFL will fire back hard with a PR campaign if they think they're going to be shelling out money in a series of bullying lawsuits. I still think there is more to it - I still think Martin is a closet gay.
I was a little surprised to see the Martin second wave of attacks. he really is planning to sue, huh?
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This is the guy they claim is fucking with Martin. Richie Incognito. Long time NFL hell raiser and thug. :D
this one sounds and acts nelly
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I was a little surprised to see the Martin second wave of attacks. he really is planning to sue, huh?
A lot of nerve by Martin, I'd be surprised if he plays again. Someone will pick up ingognito at a good price next year
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Anybody watch the Incognito interview with Jay Glazer?
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"I'm going to kill you and all of your family"
- Text message from Martin to Incognito, just a week before martin blew up.
Incognito handed over his phone to the reporter Glazer last night. There were 11 back and forth text between them. They BOTH used the violent threats to one another, (presumably joking around?)
So while Ingognito needs a kick in the balls for his language (use of the N-word)... Any cries of "oh, how could he be so violent in his wording?", it really looks like it was two dudes talking to each other like this all the time. While they were also going on vacations, dinner together, and laughing it up in interviews all along. I can't buy into "I have to check into a mental health facility because I'm scared Incognito wants to kill me", as we now know they both chatted at each other like this.
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Anybody watch the Incognito interview with Jay Glazer?
at least he worse non-ghetto clothes for the interview
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Jonathan Martin's attorney David Cornwall was not elected as the director of the NFLPA back in 2012. Sounds like Jonathan Martin may be part of his vendetta against them!
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Jonathan Martin's attorney David Cornwall was not elected as the director of the NFLPA back in 2012. Sounds like Jonathan Martin may be part of his vendetta against them!
Yep... Martin's texts to Incognito, a few days after the media shitstorm began, indicated he had no idea how and why everything is getting released. Sounds like the lawyer created this big gameplan to sue the NFL. I have no doubt he told Martin to check into the hospital so that'd be documented as mental suffering, pain & anguish. He's doing the PR campaign against the NFL in the media now.
Martin is looking worse and worse - the text where he threatens to kill Incognito's familiy, that essentially nullifies the threat from Incognito - Just two grown men making similar jokes at each other. Obviously, we all know these 2 millionaires weren't going to do that. Obviously Martin wasn't going to murder Incognito's family, and Incognito really never planned to shit in anyone's mouth.
The new texts are gonna really put a dent in Martin's credibility that he was "so scared for his life" - Just two dudes going back and forth like dudes sometimes do.
I didn't know Incognito had done so much for our veterans - wow... heavily involved in this for years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Homefront
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Yep... Martin's texts to Incognito, a few days after the media shitstorm began, indicated he had no idea how and why everything is getting released. Sounds like the lawyer created this big gameplan to sue the NFL. I have no doubt he told Martin to check into the hospital so that'd be documented as mental suffering, pain & anguish. He's doing the PR campaign against the NFL in the media now.
Martin is looking worse and worse - the text where he threatens to kill Incognito's familiy, that essentially nullifies the threat from Incognito - Just two grown men making similar jokes at each other. Obviously, we all know these 2 millionaires weren't going to do that. Obviously Martin wasn't going to murder Incognito's family, and Incognito really never planned to shit in anyone's mouth.
The new texts are gonna really put a dent in Martin's credibility that he was "so scared for his life" - Just two dudes going back and forth like dudes sometimes do.
I didn't know Incognito had done so much for our veterans - wow... heavily involved in this for years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Homefront
good PR team and agent is where it's at! sold YOU da bill of goods !
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Yep... Martin's texts to Incognito, a few days after the media shitstorm began, indicated he had no idea how and why everything is getting released. Sounds like the lawyer created this big gameplan to sue the NFL. I have no doubt he told Martin to check into the hospital so that'd be documented as mental suffering, pain & anguish. He's doing the PR campaign against the NFL in the media now.
Martin is looking worse and worse - the text where he threatens to kill Incognito's familiy, that essentially nullifies the threat from Incognito - Just two grown men making similar jokes at each other. Obviously, we all know these 2 millionaires weren't going to do that. Obviously Martin wasn't going to murder Incognito's family, and Incognito really never planned to shit in anyone's mouth.
The new texts are gonna really put a dent in Martin's credibility that he was "so scared for his life" - Just two dudes going back and forth like dudes sometimes do.
I didn't know Incognito had done so much for our veterans - wow... heavily involved in this for years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Homefront
How do you know this?
I only ask because I believe Aaron Hernandez, you know... one of those millionaires is being held without bail for doing JUST THAT.
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How do you know this?
I only ask because I believe Aaron Hernandez, you know... one of those millionaires is being held without bail for doing JUST THAT.
A Hernandez is diff. He's a bad seed. If he says that he's going to kill you, you better believe he will try.
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A Hernandez is diff. He's a bad seed. If he says that he's going to kill you, you better believe he will try.
Yeah, I'm just saying that 10 months ago, if someone had said Aaron Hernandez would kill someone, 240 would be saying, "No way... He's a Pro Football player who makes millions, he wouldn't risk all of that to kill someone."
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How do you know this?
I only ask because I believe Aaron Hernandez, you know... one of those millionaires is being held without bail for doing JUST THAT.
Hernandez is a criminal! Incognito is a wildman, dirty on the field, gets crazy when he drinks too much! Apples and oranges!
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Hernandez is a criminal! Incognito is a wildman, dirty on the field, gets crazy when he drinks too much! Apples and oranges!
I heard on the radio this morning that Martin/Incognito exchanged 1,100 text messages over the last 19 months.
Kinda strange for two guys who were supposedly at each others throats?
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I saw the incognito interview. Could he be anymore of a fat faced fuck?
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I heard on the radio this morning that Martin/Incognito exchanged 1,100 text messages over the last 19 months.
Kinda strange for two guys who were supposedly at each others throats?
Because all it is, is contrived bullshit. Just another thing to keep us distracted...just like Miley Cyrus lighting up to smoke weed onstage.
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"I'm going to kill you and all of your family"
- Text message from Martin to Incognito, just a week before martin blew up.
Incognito handed over his phone to the reporter Glazer last night. There were 11 back and forth text between them. They BOTH used the violent threats to one another, (presumably joking around?)
So while Ingognito needs a kick in the balls for his language (use of the N-word)... Any cries of "oh, how could he be so violent in his wording?", it really looks like it was two dudes talking to each other like this all the time. While they were also going on vacations, dinner together, and laughing it up in interviews all along. I can't buy into "I have to check into a mental health facility because I'm scared Incognito wants to kill me", as we now know they both chatted at each other like this.
lol you wouldnt last a week if coworkers talked to you like that, the reason why you probably dont work anymore. Stop acting so tough on the internet, again. As usual it's all fun and games until it's your turn.
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jokes??
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Have not had a chance to read all these damn intelligent and interesting comments yet so this may have already been mentioned by 240 or Ronnie Rep or some other GetBigger... but there appears to be a great opportunity for a substantial court settlement regarding this situation and a huge fee for the lawyers involved.
I do know for a fact that even you are involved in a minor vehicle accident a lawyer will take you on as a client and send you to some medical office (usually somehow connect with that lawyer's firm) to substantiate a claim for 'damages' no matter how minor that 'damage' may be.
It could be possible that Martin did not make that decision on his own.
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This whole thing is a charade. Martin couldn't hack it on the field so he and his people found a way to get out and get a big payday at the same time. Another bullshit lawsuit coming as soon as possible. Fuck everyone at ESPN for talking about this faggotry 24 hours a day. At this point "investigative journalists" are nothing more that a tool to help make lawyers rich. This story makes me ashamed to be a man, ashamed to be an American, and ashamed to be a fan of NFL football. We truly live in a world full of pussies now.
"The meek shall inherit the earth".....their laywers will make sure of that.
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If Obama had a tall,fat son..... ;D
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Have not had a chance to read all these damn intelligent and interesting comments yet so this may have already been mentioned by 240 or Ronnie Rep or some other GetBigger... but there appears to be a great opportunity for a substantial court settlement regarding this situation and a huge fee for the lawyers involved.
I do know for a fact that even you are involved in a minor vehicle accident a lawyer will take you on as a client and send you to some medical office (usually somehow connect with that lawyer's firm) to substantiate a claim for 'damages' no matter how minor that 'damage' may be.
It could be possible that Martin did not make that decision on his own.
good call - My guess is that he was wanting attention one day, so he mentioned this to his mom, maybe even said "Oh, they even insulted YOU, mom", trying to get some pity and all that.
So, she and her hubby were offended and vowed to destroy Incognito for disrespecting her for it. They called the dude who hates the NFL the most, this attorney David Cornwall, recently jilted by the NFL for the prime job.
This dude assembles a nice narrative of the bullying, he figures he'll bend them over in court, the parents will get the win, Incognito will be ousted,and Martin gets to play the victim.
The reality here... thousands of texts between the two men. BOTH of them used family threats on an ongoing basis as part of the macho rowdiness of football or whatever else. BOTH did it.
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Miami's O-Line is terrible now. They're losing 12 to 0 to the winless Bucs.
Just got their own QB'd safetied for 2 points in the endzone... without martin and incognito, that O-line is sad.
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Miami's O-Line is terrible now. They're losing 12 to 0 to the winless Bucs.
Just got their own QB'd safetied for 2 points in the endzone... without martin and incognito, that O-line is sad.
That loss was a lot more than the O-line... seemed to be just fine in the 2nd half. So... no.
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That loss was a lot more than the O-line... seemed to be just fine in the 2nd half. So... no.
No, they don't need a probowl offensive lineman? Come on son.
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No, they don't need a probowl offensive lineman? Come on son.
Didn't say that... Just said it wasn't just an O-line problem... They had more issues on special teams than anything.
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good call - My guess is that he was wanting attention one day, so he mentioned this to his mom, maybe even said "Oh, they even insulted YOU, mom", trying to get some pity and all that.
So, she and her hubby were offended and vowed to destroy Incognito for disrespecting her for it. They called the dude who hates the NFL the most, this attorney David Cornwall, recently jilted by the NFL for the prime job.
This dude assembles a nice narrative of the bullying, he figures he'll bend them over in court, the parents will get the win, Incognito will be ousted,and Martin gets to play the victim.
The reality here... thousands of texts between the two men. BOTH of them used family threats on an ongoing basis as part of the macho rowdiness of football or whatever else. BOTH did it.
This is so obvious it's ridiculous! Incognito needs to get himself a good lawyer, which he probably already has, and go after the Dolphins and if need be the NFL! He lost his job before any facts were divulged!
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That loss was a lot more than the O-line... seemed to be just fine in the 2nd half. So... no.
2 rushing yards
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/12/3747590/miami-dolphins-rushing-attack.html
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The Dolphins' O-line has sucked all year. Tannehill was on pace to be one of the most sacked/hit Qbs in NFL history before this all happened. It just sucks a little more now just like the rest of the team regardless of what side of the ball.
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They started 3-0.
Now they're 4-5.
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My guess is the first one to be fired on the Dolphins will be G.M. Jeff Ireland, which should of happened a long time ago!
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My guess is the first one to be fired on the Dolphins will be G.M. Jeff Ireland, which should of happened a long time ago!
It's pretty funny how these desperate GMs take a page out of the Redskins' book and go on a free agent spending spree to save their jobs and are crowned the "winners of the off season" by the media and fans and then fail miserably like the Eagles Dream Team.
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It's pretty funny how these desperate GMs take a page out of the Redskins' book and go on a free agent spending spree to save their jobs and are crowned the "winners of the off season" by the media and fans and then fail miserably like the Eagles Dream Team.
Please don't bring up the Eagles Dream Team. I still haven't gotten over the 2005 Super Bowl!
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Please don't bring up the Eagles Dream Team. I still haven't gotten over the 2005 Super Bowl!
Ah, shit. At least you've been there fairly recently. I'm a Bills fan. Haven't been to the playoffs since '99!
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Where is TRUE ADONIS when you don't need him?
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The Dolphins' O-line has sucked all year. Tannehill was on pace to be one of the most sacked/hit Qbs in NFL history before this all happened. It just sucks a little more now just like the rest of the team regardless of what side of the ball.
Exactly.
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incognito filed a grievance against the dolphins today for wrongful suspension-
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/football/incognito-files-grievance-against-dolphins-report/article15448785/
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looks like homognito is pretty shaken for a tough guy ; general opinion is clearely against him mostly. Call martin a pussy all you want, he won a psychological fight that was ignited by someone else.
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looks like homognito is pretty shaken for a tough guy ; general opinion is clearely against him mostly. Call martin a pussy all you want, he won a psychological fight that was ignited by someone else.
Not among NFL players and execs.
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Not among NFL players and execs.
Im sure he s very worried about it considering he wanted out of the whole thing ::)
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Im sure he s very worried about it considering he wanted out of the whole thing ::)
I was talking about Incognito. ::)
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I was talking about Incognito. ::)
well his reputation is toast, the public decides not the players , genius move from martin.
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I think it looks more like Incognito plays again and Martin is out of the league for good.....
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by the NFL rules... what did incognito do/
He used the n-word, which the NFL had NO PROBLEM with when Riley Cooper did it.
He threatened another player's family, but that player was his friend and they did it to each other all the time.
Incognito can now say "Why did you suspend me"?
And the NFL, thanks to their lax (read: zero) punishment on Cooper, cannot suspend him for that word.
And since Martin threatened to kill Incognito's family also - WHY WASN"T MARTIN SUSPENDED TOO?
Toss in the fact that the Dolphins coaches allowed the use of the N-word NONSTOP in there - HORRIBLE policy -
Well, you have to wonder... why did Incognito get suspended? Was it because of the one-sided narrative sold by Martin's lawyer? Did they look at the texts FROM martin and just decide NOT to punish him for the same thing? Unfortunately, the ignorant moron Incognito's case actually had merit here due to the NFL's selective enforcement of rules.
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homognito gave a bad name to the whole league, even if they do it all the time, and thats all that matters, image of the league, money, period. Martin mindfucked them all.
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homognito gave a bad name to the whole league, even if they do it all the time, and thats all that matters, image of the league, money, period. Martin mindfucked them all.
The NFL is totally okay with wife-beaters, drunk drivers, dog murderers, gamblers, drugs/guns, and the use of the N-word.
But a dude is a bully, and BOOM, immediate suspension. Before any investigation. Before we learned BOTH MEN sent joking death threats to each other.
no suspension for Riley. None for Martin. Both did the same thing he's suspended for. Gotta suspend them all.
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by the NFL rules... what did incognito do/
He used the n-word, which the NFL had NO PROBLEM with when Riley Cooper did it.
He threatened another player's family, but that player was his friend and they did it to each other all the time.
Incognito can now say "Why did you suspend me"?
And the NFL, thanks to their lax (read: zero) punishment on Cooper, cannot suspend him for that word.
And since Martin threatened to kill Incognito's family also - WHY WASN"T MARTIN SUSPENDED TOO?
Toss in the fact that the Dolphins coaches allowed the use of the N-word NONSTOP in there - HORRIBLE policy -
Well, you have to wonder... why did Incognito get suspended? Was it because of the one-sided narrative sold by Martin's lawyer? Did they look at the texts FROM martin and just decide NOT to punish him for the same thing? Unfortunately, the ignorant moron Incognito's case actually had merit here due to the NFL's selective enforcement of rules.
Martin's lawyers were better is all! :D
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I was talking about Incognito. ::)
Call martin a pussy all you want, he won a psychological fight that was ignited by someone else.
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The Dolphins' O-line has sucked all year. Tannehill was on pace to be one of the most sacked/hit Qbs in NFL history before this all happened. It just sucks a little more now just like the rest of the team regardless of what side of the ball.
Idk I'd say until this year the bears have had the worst oline in the history of the nfl I remember watching a Monday night game last year and the tackle was getting blown off the ball 7 yards back into the qb routinely, another mon night game I think the NYG had 8 sacks in the 1st half vs them. I don't think I've ever seen any of that happen on any level.
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My guess is the first one to be fired on the Dolphins will be G.M. Jeff Ireland, which should of happened a long time ago!
ya the writing is on the wall for him. they trade away 2 draft pick to move up to 3rd overall to grab jordan and he's been the biggest bust of the draft. then they sign Wallace who been the biggest bust of free agency to nose bleed money. combine that with their o-line that is worse than pourous the incognito/ Martin scandal is best thing that could have happened to him to take the attention away from his ineptitude at building a team annd winning games.
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Call martin a pussy all you want, he won a psychological fight that was ignited by someone else.
Have you really even followed the story? Not just the initial reports. It has changed and Incognito will be back in the league and even IF Martin wanted back in he would be lucky to get signed and the shunned by the other players. Martin didnt mindfuck anybody and you will see it unfold.
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Martin doesn't want to play again is my guess. His side is saying all the right things and are building their case against the Dolphins and NFL! He will walk away with a nice chunk of change when this is all done! Incognito has filed his grievance against the Dolphins, he will it least get his money that is owed to him when the NFL investigation is done. Incognito should go to the WWE and become the Bully! I could see Vince signing him in a minute!
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Have you really even followed the story? Not just the initial reports. It has changed and Incognito will be back in the league and even IF Martin wanted back in he would be lucky to get signed and the shunned by the other players. Martin didnt mindfuck anybody and you will see it unfold.
Just the initial reports.
So it changed?
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Just the initial reports.
So it changed?
Initially, we saw a partial transcript of ONE voicemail, from Incognito, in which he used the n-word and threatened Martin's family. People (myself included) said that dude needs to be out of the league.
NOW - we learn the word was used nonstop in that locker room, and many black players gave Incognito "their blessing" to use it - Not that it makes it any better, of course, but the NFL didn't do anything to Riley Cooper for using it. And many players say it's used all the time between players. So that part of the suspension would be hard for NFL to justify.
On the THREATS part - there were 1100 texts between Martin and Incognito - And they made threats back and forth all the time, about shitting in each others moms mouth, killing their whole family, etc, and they kept posting buddy pics on twitter all the while. They were buddies and they did this, it's just how they were.
Martin's lawyer said it was one-sided bullying... we still don't know the whole story, but we know the threats were friendly and went both ways.
Martin was a shitty played who hated his new position on the O-line, wanted a payday and a way outta the league. His mama has a history of workplace lawsuit, his lawyer was just jilted by the NFL for their players rep job... perfect storm.
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Have you really even followed the story? Not just the initial reports. It has changed and Incognito will be back in the league and even IF Martin wanted back in he would be lucky to get signed and the shunned by the other players. Martin didnt mindfuck anybody and you will see it unfold.
Even if homognito gets back into the league, his tru self has been exposed and tarnished. You dont understand. And martin will get what he wanted while homognito didnt see that one coming. He got owned, period.
Yes people laugh together in lockerooms and in life in general, and sometimes they re not joking, there s something more. Well in that case there was something more, it ceased to be jokes and became a desire to kill a weaker individual "for fun". If you re smart enough everything makes perfect sense and is justified.
The funny is that all people who worship incognito and admire his character and probably shape theirs based on his, will know the same fate one day. It's ok to be tough and all, but it's not ok when you use who, what you are, to kill weaker people psychologically and/or physically.
Martin was a shitty played who hated his new position on the O-line, wanted a payday and a way outta the league. His mama has a history of workplace lawsuit, his lawyer was just jilted by the NFL for their players rep job... perfect storm.
AND he couldnt take the insults/intimidations anymore that became way too pernicious to be just solely considered as "jokes". He will win in the end cause the truth is with him. Homognito probably went too far and wanted to kill him psychologically on that field; but martin fought back and incognito is now all sorry.
If incognito didnt want to hurt him bad, martin would have just been cut. Again, incognito is fucking dumb, giving a bad name to the league, seen as uncontrollable/a loose cannon who went too far by those who CONTROL the league (he s just one of their toys), thought he toyed with a weak individual, and got definitely mindfucked in the end without expecting it by the same person he wanted to kill pushing on his buttons. Martin may not be good enough to play, but he s good enough to "kill" incognito on the psychological field while leaving with a nice amount of money and finding a better suited place for him in this world, and he will.
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by the NFL rules... what did incognito do/
He used the n-word, which the NFL had NO PROBLEM with when Riley Cooper did it.
He threatened another player's family, but that player was his friend and they did it to each other all the time.
Incognito can now say "Why did you suspend me"?
And the NFL, thanks to their lax (read: zero) punishment on Cooper, cannot suspend him for that word.
And since Martin threatened to kill Incognito's family also - WHY WASN"T MARTIN SUSPENDED TOO?
Toss in the fact that the Dolphins coaches allowed the use of the N-word NONSTOP in there - HORRIBLE policy -
Well, you have to wonder... why did Incognito get suspended? Was it because of the one-sided narrative sold by Martin's lawyer? Did they look at the texts FROM martin and just decide NOT to punish him for the same thing? Unfortunately, the ignorant moron Incognito's case actually had merit here due to the NFL's selective enforcement of rules.
Don't know where you have been, but the NFL can do whatever the hell it pleases. Roger Goodell has always said, "Whatever I say" and it usually goes his way.
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Martin's text to Incognito after it all went down... essentially saying Dude, it wasn't you...
MARTIN:
"Just know, I don't blame you guys at all. It's just the culture of the NFL. Never check yourself into a mental hospital."
Also, there are many graphic texts where MARTIN was sending graphic, violent, and sexual texts to INCOGNITO. They were BOTH sending each other emails about fcking each others' mothers, murdering one another for fun, etc.
it's tough to claim bullying when they were BOTH being violent in their texts to one another.
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Martin's text to Incognito after it all went down... essentially saying Dude, it wasn't you...
MARTIN:
"Just know, I don't blame you guys at all. It's just the culture of the NFL. Never check yourself into a mental hospital."
Also, there are many graphic texts where MARTIN was sending graphic, violent, and sexual texts to INCOGNITO. They were BOTH sending each other emails about fcking each others' mothers, murdering one another for fun, etc.
it's tough to claim bullying when they were BOTH being violent in their texts to one another.
Dude, the voicemail that Incognito left where he said, "I'll fucking kill you" was clearly just messing with him. I heard worse pledging a fraternity. Fact is, the dude Martin should have never played along. He was too soft for that type of game, but tried to "fight back" and before you know it, had a meltdown. We see that shit here on getbig on a daily basis. Some chump thinks he can hang, sends out insults, then when he really can't take it anymore, it spirals out of control and he melts. Fuck Martin, no one will ever want him in their locker room.
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Martin was barely hanging on at the NFL level anyway.
He does this interview the Wed before the Super Bowl.
My guess is that he's shopping for a book deal. Hoping to get a $2 mil payday (for some heroic book about standing up to bullies), then quietly retire and spend the next few decades on message boards posting anonymously, seeking the affirmation he never received in football. Give it 6 months and he'll be posting Selfies in the getbig Members pics area.
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Martin was barely hanging on at the NFL level anyway.
He does this interview the Wed before the Super Bowl.
My guess is that he's shopping for a book deal. Hoping to get a $2 mil payday (for some heroic book about standing up to bullies), then quietly retire and spend the next few decades on message boards posting anonymously, seeking the affirmation he never received in football. Give it 6 months and he'll be posting Selfies beside tbombz on Backpage
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Martin was barely hanging on at the NFL level anyway.
He does this interview the Wed before the Super Bowl.
My guess is that he's shopping for a book deal. Hoping to get a $2 mil payday (for some heroic book about standing up to bullies), then quietly retire and spend the next few decades on message boards posting anonymously, seeking the affirmation he never received in football. Give it 6 months and he'll be posting Selfies in the getbig Members pics area.
He ain't no Getbigger, he couldn't handle it!
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Martin was barely hanging on at the NFL level anyway.
He does this interview the Wed before the Super Bowl.
My guess is that he's shopping for a book deal. Hoping to get a $2 mil payday (for some heroic book about standing up to bullies), then quietly retire and spend the next few decades on message boards posting anonymously, seeking the affirmation he never received in football. Give it 6 months and he'll be posting Selfies in the getbig Members pics area.
His mommy and daddy will pay for him to go back to school and become an affirmative action advocate.
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Martin was barely hanging on at the NFL level anyway.
He does this interview the Wed before the Super Bowl.
My guess is that he's shopping for a book deal. Hoping to get a $2 mil payday (for some heroic book about standing up to bullies), then quietly retire and spend the next few decades on message boards posting anonymously, seeking the affirmation he never received in football. Give it 6 months and he'll be posting Selfies in the getbig Members pics area.
Barely hanging on? He was the Dolphins' starting right tackle before the whole incident with Incognito began. 1st string.
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Barely hanging on? He was the Dolphins' starting right tackle before the whole incident with Incognito began. 1st string.
1st string or not, he sucked and struggled. He was in his 2nd year and was a high 2nd round pick. Of course he's going to start on that line with their shitty tackles.
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The Ted Wells report comes out right after the Super Bowl (The NFL didn't want it to detract from the big game).
And it will show BOTH MEN using phrases like "I'm going to kill your mama then have sex with her then paint my house with her brains then etc etc etc".
Martin was trying to muddy the waters. He'll be shown to have obviously participated in the back-and-forth. If I'm a coach, and I see two grown men choosing to spend their night life sending each other violent texts while laughing, hey, I'm staying out of it. If Martin can issue death threats so casually (and they say he issued many), it's tough for him to claim he was in fear of his life or he needed to go to mental hospital.
http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/5139/its-time-for-the-ted-wells-report
Martin now says he wants to play again, but it'd have to be the right environment. No coach wants that... anytime the guy decides, he can meltdown, accuse people of bullying, and get the lawyers rolling.
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1st string or not, he sucked and struggled. He was in his 2nd year and was a high 2nd round pick. Of course he's going to start on that line with their shitty tackles.
Didn't think the O-line was that bad. I realize that Tannehill got sacked a ton this season but the team finished .500 which was far beyond expectations even after the whole bullying incident. If you earn the right to start in the NFL, regardless of position, you don't suck...I'm sorry but I just don't agree with that. The NFL is the elite. And if you're good enough to start, you're pretty damn good regardless if the team you're playing for is Seattle or the team with the worst record. The margins between elite and good are slim on that level. There is no such thing as average when you start on Sundays in the NFL. Just my 2 cents.
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Didn't think the O-line was that bad. I realize that Tannehill got sacked a ton this season but the team finished .500 which was far beyond expectations even after the whole bullying incident. If you earn the right to start in the NFL, regardless of position, you don't suck...I'm sorry but I just don't agree with that. The NFL is the elite. And if you're good enough to start, you're pretty damn good regardless if the team you're playing for is Seattle or the team with the worst record. The margins between elite and good are slim on that level. There is no such thing as average when you start on Sundays in the NFL. Just my 2 cents.
The interior was of course better with incognito and pouncey. I just said the tackles. An nfl team isn't going to give up on a 2nd year high round draft choice even if he's performing at a below average level early in his nfl career. I'm not saying he sucks to the point where he shouldn't be in the league or anything based on talent. I just don't think he's a good enough player to start on the majority of the offensive lines in the league. Some of my friends are dolphins fans and never liked the guy's play before this whole story broke.
This was an article after the 2013 season that puts it in better words with what I'm saying
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2013/01/29/talking-points-rb-reggie-bush-isnt-the-best-fit-for-the-miami-dolphins-offense/
The website Pro Football Focus ranked Long’s play as decidedly average in 2012 – ranking him 46th among 80 offensive tackles – but he was still significantly better than Martin, who ranked 76th. Long allowed four sacks and 10 quarterback pressures in 12 games, while Martin allowed six sacks and a whopping 47 pressures in 16 games. Martin, who admitted to teammates that he has to improve his upper-body strength this offseason, allowed more pressures in four games at left tackle (13) than Long did in 12.
PFF also graded the offensive line units for the season, and ranked the Dolphins 23rd out of 32. They named a “stud” and “dude” on every line, and the Dolphins’ dud was Martin.
“You spend a high pick on a rookie, then it’s likely at some point you’re going to want to see what you’ve got. Well, the Dolphins got a good long look at Jonathan Martin (-22.0) and they’ll know he’s got a long way to go before he becomes the player they drafted him to be.”
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duly noted. Oh well...at least the guy graduated with a degree from Stanford. I'm sure he won't have a problem getting a job after he gets his book deal.
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Martin will never play another down on an NFL field!