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Title: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 09:00:00 AM
Look at the crap that these nitwits come up with.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/08/melissa_harris_perry_likens_derogatory_term_obamacare_to_the_n-word.html
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Archer77 on December 09, 2013, 09:03:24 AM
Beyond insanity and completely delusional.  This reminds me a lot of the communist paranoia of the fifties.  Instead of seeing communism everywhere, they see racism. 
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 09, 2013, 09:16:18 AM
The play the race card because they have literally nothing else

They have no legitimate arguement for ANY of their radical positions, only emotion.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Dos Equis on December 09, 2013, 09:19:09 AM
What a clown.   ::)
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Archer77 on December 09, 2013, 09:21:55 AM
There will be at least one person on here who will defend this ridiculousness.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2013, 09:23:23 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/obamacare-website-woes-public-relations-100840.html?hp=t3_3


LMFAO!!!!

Obamacare used as a PR "What not to do!" 
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2013, 09:42:46 AM
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/12/08/billions-in-fees-to-hit-consumers-businesses.html

How about that racist psychotic 95er CNT address this? 
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 09:47:59 AM
Look at the crap that these nitwits come up with.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/08/melissa_harris_perry_likens_derogatory_term_obamacare_to_the_n-word.html

it's definitely used as a pejorative (just like Romneycare) but it's most definitely not racist

Obama doesn't seem to mind it so this chick should find something else to bellyache about

If she needs some ideas she should spend some time on this board and look at how truly world class crybabies spend their day crying about irrelevant shit 24/7
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: bears on December 09, 2013, 10:13:41 AM
I mean do any of you guys notice how she pontificates like a preacher speaking from a pulpit?  I've said it before but I have to say it again.  Our political parties are becoming religious groups.  She speaks like she's talking about her savior.  Her passion is unbridled. 

AND SHE'S A FUCKING GOD DAMN NEWS ANCHOR!!!!!! 

I'm not saying that the liberal democrats hold a monopoly on treating politicians like religious figures but does anyone agree that its getting out of hand?  it's like in this day and age everyone is ditching religion but the innate desire to believe in something bigger than yourself ultimately prevails and people are looking to politics to fill this void.

Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 10:44:25 AM
I mean do any of you guys notice how she pontificates like a preacher speaking from a pulpit?  I've said it before but I have to say it again.  Our political parties are becoming religious groups.  She speaks like she's talking about her savior.  Her passion is unbridled. 

AND SHE'S A FUCKING GOD DAMN NEWS ANCHOR!!!!!! 

I'm not saying that the liberal democrats hold a monopoly on treating politicians like religious figures but does anyone agree that its getting out of hand?  it's like in this day and age everyone is ditching religion but the innate desire to believe in something bigger than yourself ultimately prevails and people are looking to politics to fill this void.



she's not a news anchor

sheesh

settle the fuck down
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 10:45:34 AM
She speaks like she's talking about her savior. 

She credited him with "saving" the auto industry.

HEHEHEHEEH!!


Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 10:46:55 AM
She credited him with "saving" the auto industry.

HEHEHEHEEH!!




are you referring to the industry that came to the government begging for a bailout?

Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 10:56:54 AM
are you referring to the industry that came to the government begging for a bailout?



Did Ford beg for a bailout?

Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 10:58:48 AM
Never mind that in a free market the industry would not have disappeared.

There is always another company, another startup, ready to take the place of those that fail.

That is how the economy is supposed to work and would work if left alone.

I can't believe libtards are still claiming that the bailout was necessary.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2013, 11:00:52 AM
Obama refused to give up on Detroit!


LMFAO!!!
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 11:02:09 AM
Obama refused to give up on Detroit!


LMFAO!!!

LOL!!!

He "saved" Detroit!!! Oh, wait...
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Archer77 on December 09, 2013, 11:05:52 AM
LOL!!!

He "saved" Detroit!!! Oh, wait...

There are many minority millionaires who have the capital to invest in Detroit but they rarely do.  I wonder why?
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 09, 2013, 11:30:03 AM
I mean do any of you guys notice how she pontificates like a preacher speaking from a pulpit?  I've said it before but I have to say it again.  Our political parties are becoming religious groups.  She speaks like she's talking about her savior.  Her passion is unbridled. 

AND SHE'S A FUCKING GOD DAMN NEWS ANCHOR!!!!!! 

I'm not saying that the liberal democrats hold a monopoly on treating politicians like religious figures but does anyone agree that its getting out of hand?  it's like in this day and age everyone is ditching religion but the innate desire to believe in something bigger than yourself ultimately prevails and people are looking to politics to fill this void.



She needs to be fired. The news is supposed to present objective, unbiased information, but most of it is now just a collection of liberal leaning obama worshippers. Its getting closer and closer to a russian style state-controlled propaganda outlet.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 11:53:09 AM
Did Ford beg for a bailout?

no, they were the only one that didn't to the best of my recollection
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2013, 11:56:02 AM
no, they were the only one that didn't to the best of my recollection

Honda, Toyota, Ford, BMW, etc didn't need a bailout either. 


Obama is a disgusting leech and a failed thugPOTUS
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
Honda, Toyota, Ford, BMW, etc didn't need a bailout either. 

This is the point that I would like to make.

Industry is a general term.

How can an industry be in need of having to be "saved" if there were companies within that industry that were still financially strong, viable and in no need of a bailout?

Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: 2Thick on December 09, 2013, 12:26:48 PM
This is the point that I would like to make.

Industry is a general term.

How can an industry be in need of having to be "saved" if there were companies within that industry that were still financially strong, viable and in no need of a bailout?



Liberal propaganda.

I spent many years working in several of the world's largest financial institutions in the past, and $ was forced even on those institutions here in the US that were strong and healthy and didn't need it.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: blacken700 on December 09, 2013, 12:32:22 PM
DETROIT, MI- The U.S. government's $85 billion bailout of General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC was more successful than many first anticipated, according to a new study released today.

The Center for Automotive Research study -- called ''The Effect on the U.S. Economy of the Successful Restructuring of General Motors'' --€“ found that the controversial 2008-2009 bailout, saved 2.6 million jobs in 2009 alone and $284.4 billion in personal income was preserved over 2009-2010.

CAR concluded that if the U.S. government had refused to assist GM and Chrysler in their financial crisis of "unprecedented proportions," then the whole U.S. economy would be ''operating without a safety net, with the exception of course, of the banking system.''

The study, which was independently funded by the Ann Arbor-based nonprofit center, comes as the U.S. Treasury is expected to fully exit the Detroit-based automaker by year's end. Once the government completely exits GM the government estimated it will lose about $10 billion, which remains far less than some first predicted.

GM, or "Government Motors" as some critics have called it, has continually been ridiculed due to the government ownership, which was the result of the auto industry bailout that began under President George W. Bush in 2008 and which was expanded by President Barack Obama in 2009.

The bailout of GM alone, according to the study, saved 1.2 million jobs in 2009 and preserved $39.4 billion in personal and social insurance tax collections in 2009 and 2010.

GM North America President Mark Reuss said he believes once the government completely exits the automaker, it will provide a boost for customer consideration and morale inside GM.


"This has been a long, hard road with no repeat customers and the label of 'Government Motors,' and I’m pretty excited for (that to end)," Reuss said in response to a question about the government's exodus during a media event Monday at GM's Customer Experience Center in Warren, Mich. "I think a lot of people who work for the company feel that way."

Once the government exits GM, Reuss said he believes some customers that have not looked at GM's vehicles because of the government's ownership -- particularly pickup truck buyers -- will start considering them "right away."

The Detroit News today reports that the government could sell its remaining shares of GM -- less than 32 million shares -- by the end of this week. A year ago, the government announced it would completely exit by by early-2014. It upped that estimate to the end of 2013 earlier this month.

The Treasury originally owned about 61 percent of GM as part of the auto bailout, which forced GM and crosstown rival Chrysler through a government-backed bankruptcy.

The Obama administration completely exited Chrysler last year after recovering $11.2 billion of its $12.5 billion bailout to the Auburn Hills-based automaker.

The new CAR findings are a follow-up to a November 2008 study from the former University of Michigan research organization
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: bears on December 09, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
she's not a news anchor

sheesh

settle the fuck down

right right.  they're now all editorialists.  give me a fucking break.  if you were to ask her what she does for a living she would tell you that she's a journalist and she delivers news.  but she acts like she's preaching from the pulpit. 
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Honda, Toyota, Ford, BMW, etc didn't need a bailout either. 


Obama is a disgusting leech and a failed thugPOTUS

Apparently Ford, BMW and Toyota got government money and Honda asked for money from the Japanese government

http://jalopnik.com/5704575/ford-bmw-toyota-took-secret-government-money

http://www.newser.com/story/52383/honda-hops-on-bailout-bandwagon.html
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 09, 2013, 01:00:22 PM
Apparently Ford, BMW and Toyota got government money and Honda asked for money from the Japanese government

http://jalopnik.com/5704575/ford-bmw-toyota-took-secret-government-money

http://www.newser.com/story/52383/honda-hops-on-bailout-bandwagon.html

It was forced on them
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 01:03:06 PM
right right.  they're now all editorialists.  give me a fucking break.  if you were to ask her what she does for a living she would tell you that she's a journalist and she delivers news.  but she acts like she's preaching from the pulpit. 

She doesn't "deliver the news"

Her show on msnbc is considered a news and opinion show but she isn't doing traffic, weather (unless perhaps it's a major storm or something) or "cat in a tree" stories

She is a professor of political science at Tulane and formerly an associate professor of political science at Princeton
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 01:04:19 PM
It was forced on them

really?

Quote
With American credit markets dried up, Honda is seeking money from the Japanese government to help finance auto loans in the US, reports the Wall Street Journal. The Japanese government is planning to offer $5 billion through a semi-governmental organization, and Toyota is planning to seek funds as well.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: bears on December 09, 2013, 01:05:38 PM
She needs to be fired. The news is supposed to present objective, unbiased information, but most of it is now just a collection of liberal leaning obama worshippers. Its getting closer and closer to a russian style state-controlled propaganda outlet.

right but they can always call it "political commentary".  it's just that even ridiculous claims like the ones she's making get to air because they want to feed the beast.  who's a news anchor anymore?  
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 01:12:48 PM
right but they can always call it "political commentary".  it's just that even ridiculous claims like the ones she's making get to air because they want to feed the beast.  who's a news anchor anymore?  

she is doing political commentary, just like Rush, Levine, Hannity, and every other idiot on Faux News

you just happen not to agree with it
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
Apparently Ford, BMW and Toyota got government money and Honda asked for money from the Japanese government

http://jalopnik.com/5704575/ford-bmw-toyota-took-secret-government-money

http://www.newser.com/story/52383/honda-hops-on-bailout-bandwagon.html

Those were not grants that allowed government ownership of those companies as it did in GM.

They were LOANS for the credit arms of the company. Not for manufacturing or research and development aspect of those companies.

Any company that is going to receive a loan at a lower interest is going to take it. But that money you point out was not the "HANDOUT" portion of TARP where the company gave up share of its operations to the government.

Completely different. THESE ARE NOT BAILOUTS!

AND it still doesn't change the fact that the industry would still have survived without the TARP.

What? Do you think all of the sudden we would be riding horses and donkeys?
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: dario73 on December 09, 2013, 01:29:02 PM
This is considered a bailout?
According to the data, from October 2008 through June 2009 the fed bought $45.1 billion in commercial paper from the credit arms of four automakers - Ford, BMW, Chrysler and Toyota - along with GMAC


 ::)

If it was a bailout, how come the government didn't get a share of those companies?
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: bears on December 09, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
she is doing political commentary, just like Rush, Levine, Hannity, and every other idiot on Faux News

you just happen not to agree with it

who says I don't think they are just as ridiculous?  why do you assume I patronize their television shows? 

And if they both have ridiculous political commentary why do you refer to Fox News as "faux news" and not have a similarly cute derogatory term for MSNBC?  Is it because you won't agree that she's ridiculous because you agree with her?

you see I have the benefit of not feeling like i'm forced to swing from the nuts of a political party.  it must suck to feel the need to defend that shit all the time.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 01:56:46 PM
who says I don't think they are just as ridiculous?  why do you assume I patronize their television shows? 

And if they both have ridiculous political commentary why do you refer to Fox News as "faux news" and not have a similarly cute derogatory term for MSNBC?  Is it because you won't agree that she's ridiculous because you agree with her?

you see I have the benefit of not feeling like i'm forced to swing from the nuts of a political party.  it must suck to feel the need to defend that shit all the time.

when did I say you watched any of those shows

I'm just pointing out that what she is going is political commentary just like a long list of others

btw - if you read my first post on this thread you would see that I'm not defending her claim about the word Obamacare

wtf ?
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
Those were not grants that allowed government ownership of those companies as it did in GM.

They were LOANS for the credit arms of the company. Not for manufacturing or research and development aspect of those companies.

Any company that is going to receive a loan at a lower interest is going to take it. But that money you point out was not the "HANDOUT" portion of TARP where the company gave up share of its operations to the government.

Completely different. THESE ARE NOT BAILOUTS!

AND it still doesn't change the fact that the industry would still have survived without the TARP.

What? Do you think all of the sudden we would be riding horses and donkeys?

Did GM come to the government begging for a bailout?

Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: bears on December 09, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
when did I say you watched any of those shows

I'm just pointing out that what she is going is political commentary just like a long list of others

btw - if you read my first post on this thread you would see that I'm not defending her claim about the word Obamacare

wtf ?

yet Fox News is "faux news" to you but you don't denigrate MSNBC at all.  why?

they both claim to be "news" stations and both of them allow 90% of their time to be occupied by "political commentary" that borders on fanatical.  so again.  why do you denigrate Fox News and not MSNBC?
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 02:31:49 PM
yet Fox News is "faux news" to you but you don't denigrate MSNBC at all.  why?

they both claim to be "news" stations and both of them allow 90% of their time to be occupied by "political commentary" that borders on fanatical.  so again.  why do you denigrate Fox News and not MSNBC?

I completely disagree that 90% of MSNBC content is fanatical political commentary

I doubt Faux News even reaches that level though they far exceed MSNBC

Again, apparently you don't understand that my first post on this thread is disagreeing with a commentator on MSNBC

Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Archer77 on December 09, 2013, 02:32:06 PM
yet Fox News is "faux news" to you but you don't denigrate MSNBC at all.  why?

they both claim to be "news" stations and both of them allow 90% of their time to be occupied by "political commentary" that borders on fanatical.  so again.  why do you denigrate Fox News and not MSNBC?

I don't watch either of them.  Hayes, Sharpton, Mathews and Perry are unbearable to watch.  Olbermann was easier to stomach than those buffoons.  There isn't an original though among them. It's ultra-left wing propaganda.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: bears on December 09, 2013, 02:46:18 PM
I don't watch either of them.  Hayes, Sharpton, Mathews and Perry are unbearable to watch.  Olbermann was easier to stomach than those buffoons.  There isn't an original though among them. It's ultra-left wing propaganda.

yup.  Olbermann was a dick and I didn't agree with much of what he believes but at least he got there by way of intelligence and wit.  those others are just colorful characters meant to stir up the pot.
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: chadstallion on December 09, 2013, 04:45:49 PM
she's not a news anchor

sheesh

settle the fuck down
shes as much of a news anchor as hannity o'reilly levin beck etal
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: tonymctones on December 09, 2013, 04:51:47 PM
it's definitely used as a pejorative (just like Romneycare) but it's most definitely not racist

Obama doesn't seem to mind it so this chick should find something else to bellyache about

If she needs some ideas she should spend some time on this board and look at how truly world class crybabies spend their day crying about irrelevant shit 24/7
hey we agree!!!

someone write that down, on December 9th, 2013 tonymctones and strawman agreed on something
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
hey we agree!!!

someone write that down, on December 9th, 2013 tonymctones and strawman agreed on something

sounds like you're getting smarter but maybe it's just a temporary moment of sanity

I assume you agree on my entire statement including the part your fellow crybabies on GB.com
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: tonymctones on December 09, 2013, 05:05:21 PM
sounds like you're getting smarter but maybe it's just a temporary moment of sanity

I assume you agree on my entire statement including the part your fellow crybabies on GB.com
absolutely did you see blackens latest fox news thread?

I mean obama and the admin lied about syria and all this clown can think about is fox news???
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: Straw Man on December 09, 2013, 05:10:04 PM
absolutely did you see blackens latest fox news thread?

I mean obama and the admin lied about syria and all this clown can think about is fox news???

he didn't actually make any comments in that thread other than post a story

a better example would be you and your fellow crybabies in the 8 dollar BigMac thread
Title: Re: Now the term "obamacare" is "derogatory"?
Post by: tonymctones on December 09, 2013, 05:18:58 PM
he didn't actually make any comments in that thread other than post a story

a better example would be you and your fellow crybabies in the 8 dollar BigMac thread
we arent crying in there only pointing out that other peoples shitty decisions shouldnt be my responsibility