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Title: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2013, 07:39:07 AM
In the 70's and 80's serial killers were all the rage.  People made famous by killing many others, but not in one big mass shooting but one at a time over years until finally being caught.  I've noticed though in the 2000's that we haven't had any.  Lots of mass murders, but no Ted Bundys or John Wayne Gacies anymore.  They used to even give them awesome nicknames.  Boston Strangler, Zodiac Killer, BTK, Son of Sam and my favorite, The Cleveland Torso Murderer.  You would think with the "Look at me" generation that there'd be more of these type of guys but there isn't.

Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 07:43:21 AM
In the 70's and 80's serial killers were all the rage.  People made famous by killing many others, but not in one big mass shooting but one at a time over years until finally being caught.  I've notice though in the 2000's that we haven't had any.  Lots of mass murders, but no Ted Bundis or John Wayne Gacies anymore.  They used to even give them awesome nicknames.  Boston Strangler, Zodiac Killer, BTK, Son of Sam and my favorite, The Cleveland Torso Murderer.  You would think with the "Look at me" generation that there'd be more of these type of guys but there isn't.
Random thought: I wonder if there has been serial killer trading cards? I could see that selling well.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2013, 07:44:30 AM
Random thought: I wonder if there has been serial killer trading cards? I could see that selling well.

Of course there are, even a calendar

(http://www.popfi.com/wp-content/uploads/serial-killer-calendar.jpg)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 07:50:15 AM
Of course there are, even a calendar

(http://www.popfi.com/wp-content/uploads/serial-killer-calendar.jpg)
Of course there is. 'Natch. Kinda sad how many I can name from that pic.   :-\   
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Sam on December 12, 2013, 07:58:16 AM
Some will always get through the net, but detection techniques are much better now with CCTV and DNA a lot of these sick bastards get caught before they can get on a roll.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: TrueGrit on December 12, 2013, 08:03:37 AM
They got no patience. Old fashioned serial killer would bide his time and do a few a year. Nowadays the twitter and facebook generation want it all now. Can't stagger their killing, they have to take everybody out in one afternoon. They want it all and they expect it now. Generation nothingness.

Ted Bundy must be turning in his grave.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: mik1111 on December 12, 2013, 08:08:16 AM
there are plenty of unsolved murders every week.
in all fairness I doubt cops can solve something decently executed.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 12, 2013, 08:14:02 AM
They got no patience. Old fashioned serial killer would bide his time and do a few a year. Nowadays the twitter and facebook generation want it all now. Can't stagger their killing, they have to take everybody out in one afternoon. They want it all and they expect it now. Generation nothingness.

Ted Bundy must be turning in his grave.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Rascal full on December 12, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
Always been fascinated by serial killers and what makes the sick fucks tick. DNA and crime scene forensics has helped to catch them before they become too prolific but there are still hundreds at large today.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: BB on December 12, 2013, 10:15:26 AM
Random thought: I wonder if there has been serial killer trading cards? I could see that selling well.

(http://i500.listal.com/image/4496005/500full.jpg).

Trade ya a Gein and a Dahmer for a Warnos.  I'm also looking for the rare alternate Berkowitz rookie card, the one where he wrote "Fuck Face (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18j5swmkiqp5ijpg/original.jpg)" on the butt of his .44.

As to the original question, there are still a lot, but many seem to lack the panache of the old timers.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on December 12, 2013, 10:19:17 AM
I always thought Ed Kemper is someone I could have had lunch with.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 10:22:15 AM
(http://i500.listal.com/image/4496005/500full.jpg).

Trade ya a Gein and a Dahmer for a Warnos.  I'm also looking for the rare alternate Berkowitz rookie card, the one where he wrote "Fuck Face (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18j5swmkiqp5ijpg/original.jpg)" on the butt of his .44.

As to the original question, there are still a lot, but many seem to lack the panache of the old timers.
LOLz. Need'em, need 'em, got 'em, got 'em.  ;D
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: TrueGrit on December 12, 2013, 10:31:38 AM
(http://i500.listal.com/image/4496005/500full.jpg).

Trade ya a Gein and a Dahmer for a Warnos.  I'm also looking for the rare alternate Berkowitz rookie card, the one where he wrote "Fuck Face (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18j5swmkiqp5ijpg/original.jpg)" on the butt of his .44.

As to the original question, there are still a lot, but many seem to lack the panache of the old timers.

McFarland looking good as Dahmer and Basile rocking the clown face.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 12, 2013, 10:37:49 AM
In the 70's and 80's serial killers were all the rage.  People made famous by killing many others, but not in one big mass shooting but one at a time over years until finally being caught.  I've noticed though in the 2000's that we haven't had any.  Lots of mass murders, but no Ted Bundys or John Wayne Gacies anymore.  They used to even give them awesome nicknames.  Boston Strangler, Zodiac Killer, BTK, Son of Sam and my favorite, The Cleveland Torso Murderer.  You would think with the "Look at me" generation that there'd be more of these type of guys but there isn't.



People aren't as calculating and patient today in this Facebook/Twitter/Instagram-era

They'd rather tell their friends to film them while they knockout people
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: the trainer on December 12, 2013, 10:43:58 AM
The world has gone to shit nobody robs trains anymore, no more gangs of outlaws robbing the banks, nobody has the balls to fight to the death with a sword just a bunch of yellow belly cowards sitting on getbig and facebook talking shit.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on December 12, 2013, 10:50:10 AM
(http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/files/2013/01/toole-bbq.jpg)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Viking11 on December 12, 2013, 10:56:54 AM
They work for the Iluminati on a contract basis. Pays better.  Investigations get smoke screened. Etc.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2013, 10:58:29 AM
(http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/files/2013/01/toole-bbq.jpg)

Any good kidney or liver recipes?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on December 12, 2013, 11:00:27 AM
Any good kidney or liver recipes?

C'mon, man, this is common knowledge.

Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 11:39:23 AM
(http://i500.listal.com/image/4496005/500full.jpg).

Trade ya a Gein and a Dahmer for a Warnos.  I'm also looking for the rare alternate Berkowitz rookie card, the one where he wrote "Fuck Face (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18j5swmkiqp5ijpg/original.jpg)" on the butt of his .44.

As to the original question, there are still a lot, but many seem to lack the panache of the old timers.

Gein was't really a serial killer, not sure he belongs.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: True on December 12, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
They got no patience. Old fashioned serial killer would bide his time and do a few a year. Nowadays the twitter and facebook generation want it all now. Can't stagger their killing, they have to take everybody out in one afternoon. They want it all and they expect it now. Generation nothingness.

Ted Bundy must be turning in his grave.

This site is just awfull... Awfull I tell you... ;D
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
All lotta white people, I guess I should draw conclusions like any reasonable man. I mean the numbers don't lie, right Getbig?


Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 11:50:32 AM
All lotta white people, I guess I should draw conclusions like any reasonable man. I mean the numbers don't lie, right Getbig?



Atlanta? Wiggs on line one.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: JasonH on December 12, 2013, 11:52:10 AM
The world has gone to shit nobody robs trains anymore, no more gangs of outlaws robbing the banks, nobody has the balls to fight to the death with a sword just a bunch of yellow belly cowards sitting on getbig and facebook talking shit.

This. We need a fucking good train robbery - that's a proper old-school crime, minimal casualties/low risk/high return.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Rami on December 12, 2013, 11:53:26 AM
they become politicians and bureaucrats instead, and satisfies their needs tenfold that way
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 12, 2013, 11:56:52 AM
Richard Ramirez used to post here.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=19399;sa=showPosts
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 11:57:07 AM
Damn it the Iceman is getting no credit here.

Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: TrueGrit on December 12, 2013, 12:02:57 PM
Best neck on a serial killer, no debate.
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/B/David-Berkowitz-9209372-1-402.jpg)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 12:09:46 PM
Best neck on a serial killer, no debate.
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/B/David-Berkowitz-9209372-1-402.jpg)

But cursed with Ron Jeremy's hair.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Natural Man on December 12, 2013, 12:10:17 PM
cameras in every electronic appliance and tv/internet everywhere happened. Technology and information makes it almost impossible to do nowadays at least in first world countries. I guess it s still going on in poorer countries. Somehow technology and generalized surveillance tools available to anyone who earns a salary made political corectness the new dictature in the west.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 12:14:15 PM
Best neck on a serial killer, no debate.
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/B/David-Berkowitz-9209372-1-402.jpg)
Hmm. Fat and schlubby. Guy's channeling Mike Stivic. Debate on.    ;D
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 12:16:04 PM
All lotta white people, I guess I should draw conclusions like any reasonable man. I mean the numbers don't lie, right Getbig?




The numbers don't lie. I follow crime statistics very closely. There are many black serial killers and the number is getting larger.  The number of black serial killers is much higher than their percentage in the population.  While white serial killers are lower than their percentage of the population. The same deal with pedophiles.   I've already dispelled these myths before.  How can I trust your insights on Hebrews and comets if you don't know the facts about this subject?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: JasonH on December 12, 2013, 12:16:19 PM
Seems like there are some serial killers still around - quick search on Google revealed these. All caught in the last 4-5 years:

http://listverse.com/2013/05/01/10-recently-caught-demented-serial-killers/
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Seems like there are some serial killers still around - quick search on Google revealed these. All caught in the last 4-5 years:

http://listverse.com/2013/05/01/10-recently-caught-demented-serial-killers/


The problem is news about serial killers is either regional or they haven't connected the crimes.  A mobile killer can murder across several states without authorities connecting the murders.  A serial killer will often focus on victims who aren't likely to get a lot of attention or be missed.  They appear random.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 12:18:24 PM
I see what yall did here the Unabomber getting no credit here. A Harvard graduate a Professor at UC said to hell with Society and all moved to a shack in the woods no power, no car, no phone just a bicycle , sending and delivering bombs every single day.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Natural Man on December 12, 2013, 12:20:07 PM
serial killers are suicidal people who prefer to direct their anger at others instead of themselves.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Natural Man on December 12, 2013, 12:23:11 PM
I see what yall did here the Unabomber getting no credit here. A Harvard graduate a Professor at UC said to hell with Society and all moved to a shack in the woods no power, no car, no phone just a bicycle , sending and delivering bombs every single day.
life is about killing or being killed, some people just understand and take it more seriously than others, especially if they have nothing else to do , were dispaointed/hurt, and want to leave a mark. Most people spend their lives being passive aggressive and frustrated after realizing they didnt start the game with a full deck, some, the weakers,  kill themselves, others just control that inner energy , will to destroy and reditect it toward others as their daily favorite occupation. If you cant create, you still can destroy, it 's stil better than being dead as you can still enjoy some pleasures.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Sam on December 12, 2013, 12:23:47 PM
(http://www.truecrime.net/kemper/kemper1.jpg)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 12:24:39 PM
serial killers are suicidal people who prefer to direct their anger at others instead of themselves.
This post: 110% on the irony meter.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
life is about killing or being killed, some people just understand and take it more seriously than others, especially if they have nothing else to do , were dispaointed/hurt, and want to leave a mark. Most people spend their lives being passive aggressive and frustrated, some kill themselves, others just control that inner energy , will to destroy toward others. If you cant create, you still can destroy.
This is actually a good post and short to the point for uberman.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 12:26:15 PM
Serial killers disassociate themselves from people like a hunter does from a deer.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Sam on December 12, 2013, 12:30:09 PM
(http://www.edmundkemper.com/images/kemper5.gif)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: BB on December 12, 2013, 12:32:37 PM
Best neck on a serial killer, no debate.
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/B/David-Berkowitz-9209372-1-402.jpg)

Amateur weightlifter and permabulker Fredrick Cowan still out masses him -

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nsBjOVG7rEc/UV8q7YI0dbI/AAAAAAAAGO0/4gXvfmGaKug/s1600/Fred+Cowan.jpg).

Judging from his story, he probably would've been a getbigger -

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/mass/neptune/index_1.html .
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 12:49:46 PM
For your edification
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 12:52:49 PM
For your edification

Finally, statistics where the Asians are bombing.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 12:57:17 PM
Finally, statistics where the Asians are bombing.

90-00 was a good decade for Asians but overall they are failing.  Affirmative action program must be created to encourage diversity.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 01:00:29 PM
90-00 was a good decade for Asians but overall they are failing.  Affirmative action program must be created to encourage diversity.

Charles Ng representing.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
Charles Ng representing.

The Jackie Robinson of serial killers.  He has to share with Lake.  How do you even score that?  50/50.  He was probably the lesser of the two and lake was the planner.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 01:08:08 PM
Timothy Mcveigh stayed in a hotel room for a whole week in OKC before parking a truck with a bomb at the Federal Building now I actually saw that building once afterwards shit is real not make believe a sad sight to see.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 01:08:47 PM
The Jackie Robinson of serial killers.  He has to share with Lake.  How do you even score that?  50/50.  He was probably the lesser of the two and lake was the planner.

Yeah, they were a twisted tag team.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 01:11:06 PM
The Jackie Robinson of serial killers.  He has to share with Lake.  How do you even score that?  50/50.  He was probably the lesser of the two and lake was the planner.
#43 on every ballpark wall?  ;D
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: BB on December 12, 2013, 01:12:04 PM
For your edification

The whole pdf from Radford makes for some fine macabre reading -

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Serial%20Killer%20Information%20Center/Serial%20Killer%20Statistics.pdf .

Also the breakdowns of some famous ones -

http://skdb.fgcu.edu/public/infamous%20list%20of%20serial%20killers.asp .
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: TrueGrit on December 12, 2013, 01:15:16 PM
Amateur weightlifter and permabulker Fredrick Cowan still out masses him -

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nsBjOVG7rEc/UV8q7YI0dbI/AAAAAAAAGO0/4gXvfmGaKug/s1600/Fred+Cowan.jpg).

Judging from his story, he probably would've been a getbigger -

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/mass/neptune/index_1.html .

Big dude but not a serial killer - He was a spree killer!
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 01:19:33 PM
#43 on every ballpark wall?  ;D

On the dungeon basement wall.  ;D

The whole pdf from Radford makes for some fine macabre reading -

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Serial%20Killer%20Information%20Center/Serial%20Killer%20Statistics.pdf .

Also the breakdowns of some famous ones -

http://skdb.fgcu.edu/public/infamous%20list%20of%20serial%20killers.asp .

Yes it does.  I find the part about average IQs very interesting.  The public believes most serial killers are high IQ Hannibal Lecter types but they aren't.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2013, 01:25:06 PM
On the dungeon basement wall.  ;D

Yes it does.  I find the part about average IQs very interesting.  The public believes most serial killers are high IQ Hannibal Lecter types but they aren't.
Great point. Routine, discipline - yes! David Simon said the worst body discovery for a Tec was a dump in the woods because it meant aforethought. Difficulty : %100
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2013, 01:32:16 PM
Before he was captured, David Berkowitz was known as the "44 caliber killer". I thought that was a cool name.

But after admitting that a demon possessed dog (Sam) gave him the orders to kill people, the media went with "Son of Sam".

I read at one point that Berkowitz claims that his original story (Sam telling him to kill) was a lie. Berkowitz then claimed that he was actually part of a satanic cult.

I think he is still alive today. Getbigger's should visit him (neck training tips?)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 01:35:28 PM
Great point. Routine, discipline - yes! David Simon said the worst body discovery for a Tec was a dump in the woods because it meant aforethought. Difficulty : %100

Yes, and the simple acting of hiding a body can define a killer as organized.  When a person sees the word organized they assume the killer is a criminal mastermind who kills with precision.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 01:35:32 PM
Before he was captured, David Berkowitz was known as the "44 caliber killer". I thought that was a cool name.

But after admitting that a demon possessed dog (Sam) gave him the orders to kill people, the media went with "Son of Sam".

I read at one point that Berkowitz claims that his original story (Sam telling him to kill) was a lie. Berkowitz then claimed that he was actually part of a satanic cult.

I think he is still alive today. Getbigger's should visit him (neck training tips?)
What is his exact location?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 01:40:31 PM
Before he was captured, David Berkowitz was known as the "44 caliber killer". I thought that was a cool name.

But after admitting that a demon possessed dog (Sam) gave him the orders to kill people, the media went with "Son of Sam".

I read at one point that Berkowitz claims that his original story (Sam telling him to kill) was a lie. Berkowitz then claimed that he was actually part of a satanic cult.

I think he is still alive today. Getbigger's should visit him (neck training tips?)

You're right, I had no idea.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2013, 01:43:08 PM
Timothy Mcveigh stayed in a hotel room for a whole week in OKC before parking a truck with a bomb at the Federal Building now I actually saw that building once afterwards shit is real not make believe a sad sight to see.

Mass murdered, not a serial killer
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2013, 01:48:22 PM
What is his exact location?

he was originally @ Attica Supermax Prison

but now he is @ Sullivan Correctional Facility in Fallsburg, NY
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: BB on December 12, 2013, 01:59:23 PM
Fun fact -

William Mentzer, hitman/serial killer/Cotton Club killer is said to be a cousin of Mike Mentzer -

(http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/r620-2293935964bac7db1f63ee2e464288a9.jpg) .

Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2013, 02:00:13 PM
Berkowitz's initial words when he was arrested: "Well, you got me. How come it took you such a long time?"
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: TrueGrit on December 12, 2013, 02:02:24 PM


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/ifearnomower/ifearnoman.jpg)(http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/r620-2293935964bac7db1f63ee2e464288a9.jpg)


Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 02:04:06 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/ifearnomower/ifearnoman.jpg)(http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/r620-2293935964bac7db1f63ee2e464288a9.jpg)




Mower had some neck, he rivals Berkowitz.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: TrueGrit on December 12, 2013, 02:05:18 PM
Mower had some neck, he rivals Berkowitz.


Good call.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on December 12, 2013, 02:22:24 PM
Berkowitz's initial words when he was arrested: "Well, you got me. How come it took you such a long time?"

Berkowitz's is said to have been caught due to parking tickets.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2013, 02:23:52 PM
The numbers don't lie. I follow crime statistics very closely. There are many black serial killers and the number is getting larger.  The number of black serial killers is much higher than their percentage in the population.  While white serial killers are lower than their percentage of the population. The same deal with pedophiles.   I've already dispelled these myths before.  How can I trust your insights on Hebrews and comets if you don't know the facts about this subject?
It's been said that the more black folk intergrate into society the more they take on certain attributes/crimes/cultural morays, etc...
Like suicide, serial killing, taking people's parking spaces, Internet stalking...
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 12, 2013, 02:25:46 PM
In the 70's and 80's serial killers were all the rage.  People made famous by killing many others, but not in one big mass shooting but one at a time over years until finally being caught.  I've noticed though in the 2000's that we haven't had any.  Lots of mass murders, but no Ted Bundys or John Wayne Gacies anymore.  They used to even give them awesome nicknames.  Boston Strangler, Zodiac Killer, BTK, Son of Sam and my favorite, The Cleveland Torso Murderer.  You would think with the "Look at me" generation that there'd be more of these type of guys but there isn't.



DNA evidence and better investigative methods make stuff like that obsolete.  You kill someone and 95% of the time, you'll be busted in 48 hours
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: King Shizzo on December 12, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
In the 70's and 80's serial killers were all the rage.  People made famous by killing many others, but not in one big mass shooting but one at a time over years until finally being caught.  I've noticed though in the 2000's that we haven't had any.  Lots of mass murders, but no Ted Bundys or John Wayne Gacies anymore.  They used to even give them awesome nicknames.  Boston Strangler, Zodiac Killer, BTK, Son of Sam and my favorite, The Cleveland Torso Murderer.  You would think with the "Look at me" generation that there'd be more of these type of guys but there isn't.


I just want to thank you for a refreshing topic. Very interesting.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 02:29:22 PM
It's been said that the more black folk intergrate into society the more they take on certain attributes/crimes/cultural morays, etc...
Like suicide, serial killing, taking people's parking spaces, Internet stalking...

Honestly, it isn't about proving who's worse.  I don't like the smug self-righteous attitude people have when they say white people are pedophiles or serial killers.   It's thrown in the face of people as a means of asserting moral superiority.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2013, 02:32:26 PM
Honestly, it isn't about proving who's worse.  I don't like the smug self-righteous attitude people have when they say white people are pedophiles or serial killers.   It's thrown in the face of people as a means of asserting moral superiority.
pedophilia is a taboo topic in minority communities, and often not reported...but, the numbers are starting to jump. Due to more reporting, more people coming out.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on December 12, 2013, 02:51:54 PM
Same in the UK. No old fashioned serial killers with exotic names any more.

Peter Sutcliffe, known as the Yorkshire Ripper was a classic serial killer. Sent clue notes to the police and everything.
Murdered 13 women and attempted 7 more.

Still alive in Broadmoor mental institute for the criminally insane. A good friend of the late NABBA president Jimmy Savile who himself was suspected of being the Yorkshire Ripper back in the 70's.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2013, 03:03:06 PM
DNA evidence and better investigative methods make stuff like that obsolete.  You kill someone and 95% of the time, you'll be busted in 48 hours

Bullshit.  Serial killers are off the radar.  DNA works fine when you have suspects to compare against.  Serial killers are just people that are complete strangers to the victims with no connection to link them.  Gather the DNA and do what with it?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 03:04:08 PM
pedophilia is a taboo topic in minority communities, and often not reported...but, the numbers are starting to jump. Due to more reporting, more people coming out.

Yes, particularly in the non-English speaking communities.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Ugly on December 12, 2013, 03:06:57 PM
Anyone here grow up in SoCal mid 80s, when Ramirez was in business?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 12, 2013, 03:07:48 PM
Bullshit.  Serial killers are off the radar.  DBA works fine when you have suspects to compare against.  Serial killers are just people that are complete strangers to the victims with no connection to link them.  Gather the DNA and do what with it?

As I said, victims of serial killers can appear like random murders or are attributed to other activities like drugs and prostituion.   Serial killers will target people that society doesn't pay much attention to.  As you said, the victims aren't directly tied to the perpetrator and that makes it much more difficult.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: kh300 on December 12, 2013, 03:12:39 PM




fuckin nut job




Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2013, 03:55:54 PM
As I said, victims of serial killers can appear like random murders or are attributed to other activities like drugs and prostituion.   Serial killers will target people that society doesn't pay much attention to.  As you said, the victims aren't directly tied to the perpetrator and that makes it much more difficult.

I forgot the percentage but it was somethign like 80 or 90% of murders happen by someone the victim knew.  Serial killers never killed people they knew.  If anything they came off as normal everyday people, friendly to their neighbors giving a friendly wave and smile at passerbys when mowing the lawn while they hung their victims upside down in the basement to drain them of their blood. The better ones would even travel across country making it harder to track.  People think, well today it's easier to track with all of the technology.  Not true at all.  I did a 2 year contract with the FBI and you'd be surprised how many states don't have their databases linked between them and the federal database.  Most have no clue that the person they just pulled over for running a red is wanted in 10 states for murder.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
I may have missed it, but I dont believe that the "Unabomber" has been mentioned yet.

Mid-90's. He was a new-school serial killer. I guess he is kinda old-school too because he would write letters and make threats through the media.

He was turned in by a family member.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2013, 04:10:39 PM
I may have missed it, but I dont believe that the "Unabomber" has been mentioned yet.

Mid-90's. He was a new-school serial killer. I guess he is kinda old-school too because he would write letters and make threats through the media.

He was turned in by a family member.

He was small fries.  Killed only 3 people
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: King Shizzo on December 12, 2013, 04:16:18 PM
What about the serial killers that never get caught?  I bet there are a few out there who rival any previously mentioned.

What about the D.C. sniper ? :o  People got sniped mowing the lawn and getting gas.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 12, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
What about the serial killers that never get caught?  I bet there are a few out there who rival any previously mentioned.

What about the D.C. sniper ? :o  People got sniped mowing the lawn and getting gas.
The Zodiac never has been caught.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: King Shizzo on December 12, 2013, 04:36:51 PM
The Zodiac never has been caught.
He was an attention whore though. Thats what ultimately catches most of them. They have to leave clues, or they get sloppy.

The smart ones are still killing to this day.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 12, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
Who said there weren't any black serial killers


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Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2013, 07:17:54 PM
He was small fries.  Killed only 3 people

he only killed 3 because he got caught early (thank God)

only got caught because a letter of his was posted in the newspaper, and a family member recognized the wording.

Up to that point, the FBI had no idea who the Unabomber was. And he was threatening to blow up LAX airport!
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: galeniko on December 12, 2013, 07:23:43 PM
serial killers are suicidal people who prefer to direct their anger at others instead of themselves.
no,not true.

Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: galeniko on December 12, 2013, 07:26:56 PM
Berkowitz's initial words when he was arrested: "Well, you got me. How come it took you such a long time?"
seems we read the same book on criminology.

hes happier than ever ,now that hes in prison and gets attention from chriastian groups.

Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: galeniko on December 12, 2013, 07:39:13 PM
Bullshit.  Serial killers are off the radar.  DNA works fine when you have suspects to compare against.  Serial killers are just people that are complete strangers to the victims with no connection to link them.  Gather the DNA and do what with it?
i think youre underestimating the governments-authorities on this.

Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 13, 2013, 12:54:09 AM
The whole pdf from Radford makes for some fine macabre reading -

http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Serial%20Killer%20Information%20Center/Serial%20Killer%20Statistics.pdf .

Also the breakdowns of some famous ones -

http://skdb.fgcu.edu/public/infamous%20list%20of%20serial%20killers.asp .

it seems that as far as SK are concerned South Dakota, Wyoming and Hawaii are the safest places to stay
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 13, 2013, 04:54:39 AM
How many serial killers are there out there who have not been caught? Better yet who are in the making,working there way from small animals to people?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 13, 2013, 05:39:40 AM
Charles Manson isn't a serial killer or even a mass murderer. In fact I don't think he actually killed anybody.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: doriancutlerman on December 13, 2013, 08:17:00 AM
In the 70's and 80's serial killers were all the rage.  People made famous by killing many others, but not in one big mass shooting but one at a time over years until finally being caught.  I've noticed though in the 2000's that we haven't had any.  Lots of mass murders, but no Ted Bundys or John Wayne Gacies anymore.  They used to even give them awesome nicknames.  Boston Strangler, Zodiac Killer, BTK, Son of Sam and my favorite, The Cleveland Torso Murderer.  You would think with the "Look at me" generation that there'd be more of these type of guys but there isn't.

Your favorite:  The Cleveland Torso Murderer -- LOL! :D

I'm sure there are still serial killers lurking about, but to really garner attention these days, killing folks piecemeal isn't enough to grab the headlines.  Instead, mass killers have to run into schools and other undefended areas and start bombing or shooting the place up.  Those fuck-ups KNOW they'll go down in history, plus they get immediate gratification through the media -- something the serial killers from decades past didn't really have.  Moreover, since we have a lot more media these days with the Internet, the effect is magnified.  If someone didn't read the newspaper much or watch TV in the 70s, it's conceivable they wouldn't really know who the Zodiac Killer was.  Fast-forward back to today, and I bet even the dumbest guy you could find would know about those Columbine kids.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2013, 08:43:22 AM
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Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2013, 09:06:30 AM
 :D
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Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Conker on December 13, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
On the dungeon basement wall.  ;D

Yes it does.  I find the part about average IQs very interesting.  The public believes most serial killers are high IQ Hannibal Lecter types but they aren't.

When talking about "serial killers" most people think of or are referring to those that go around murdering numerous random strangers without any rational motive, whereas anyone who simply killed more than one person is included in those radford uni figures.

So those figs are probably not that relevant when looking at race, IQ etc if you are talking about the more high profile killers that most people associate with "serial killer" as those types will only make up a minute % of those figs.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Darren Avey on December 13, 2013, 02:24:41 PM
I have fantasised about being a serial killer before, fame and notoriety and to show all those c unts at school that I made a name of myself. The a cushy number living in a place like Broadmoor mental hospital where I can lounge around all day playing pool and ps4.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 13, 2013, 03:05:43 PM
When talking about "serial killers" most people think of or are referring to those that go around murdering numerous random strangers without any rational motive, whereas anyone who simply killed more than one person is included in those radford uni figures.

So those figs are probably not that relevant when looking at race, IQ etc if you are talking about the more high profile killers that most people associate with "serial killer" as those types will only make up a minute % of those figs.

The reason the study was conducted was to clarify the issue.  Serial murders have variety of motives, not all are sexual sadists or motivated by rage like the media portrays in films and on television.  All have a rationale for their killing.

You're just trying to move the goal post in order to reclaim the myth of the white serial killer.   You're attempting to cavalierly wave off the data.  Facts don't lie and I'm tired of intellectually dishonest individuals like yourself changing the rules when you don't like the results.

One of the problems facing law enforcement is the stereotype of the white serial killer.  So many people believe it, investigations have been ruined and side tracked looking for the wrong guy.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 13, 2013, 03:08:53 PM
I have fantasised about being a serial killer before, fame and notoriety and to show all those c unts at school that I made a name of myself. The a cushy number living in a place like Broadmoor mental hospital where I can lounge around all day playing pool and ps4.
and befriend ian huntley
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: thebrink on December 13, 2013, 06:34:00 PM
They work for the Iluminati on a contract basis. Pays better.  Investigations get smoke screened. Etc.

cia contractors

perhaps a start to a new conspiracy theory
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Conker on December 14, 2013, 02:06:50 AM
The reason the study was conducted was to clarify the issue.  Serial murders have variety of motives, not all are sexual sadists or motivated by rage like the media portrays in films and on television.  All have a rationale for their killing.

You're just trying to move the goal post in order to reclaim the myth of the white serial killer.   You're attempting to cavalierly wave off the data.  Facts don't lie and I'm tired of intellectually dishonest individuals like yourself changing the rules when you don't like the results.

One of the problems facing law enforcement is the stereotype of the white serial killer.  So many people believe it, investigations have been ruined and side tracked looking for the wrong guy.

Calm down dude not moving the goals posts at all. Where did I dispute the validity of the data? I was simply pointing out that when most people talk about "serial killers" they are generally talking about the high profile cases, where someone has gone around murdering strangers. look at the names mentioned in this thread for clarification of this.

They're not usually referring to people who may who have killed two people in a drug deal gone wrong or someone who may have killed their spouse and lover or other such stuff.

If you look at the cases in the US where random strangers have been targeted ,the perps are nearly always white, and I would guess their average IQ is probably above the norm.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 14, 2013, 07:37:38 AM


If you look at the cases in the US where random strangers have been targeted ,the perps are nearly always white, and I would guess their average IQ is probably above the norm.

I assume your talking about only serial killers who target random strangers and not all random acts of violence.  If your taking about total numbers you may be right but  that's not difficult to do considering whites are 70% of the population but when you look at offenders as a percentage of the population you are incorrect. Blacks are still way over represented in all forms off crime including serial murder.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 14, 2013, 08:23:42 AM
There probably have been plenty of Black killers out there that targeted blacks and the media not caring ever made it known.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: thebrink on December 14, 2013, 10:29:50 AM
Charles Manson isn't a serial killer or even a mass murderer. In fact I don't think he actually killed anybody.

he didnt kill anybody. hes in prison because he's a dangerous manipulator. should have been in the military thats where most of those types are.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Earl1972 on December 14, 2013, 10:55:02 AM
i've watched a&e documentaries on serial killers, they stay anonymous by only killing people that are basically anonymous themselves like hitchhikers, prostitutes, run aways, outcasts, homeless

they are smart enough to know you can't get away with killing people they know or are known to be acquainted with, obviously they would be questioned if their neighbor was found murdered

they're out there, you just don't know about them yet or you never will

you can't be a great serial killer without going years before getting busted

E
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 14, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
Cctv everywhere nowadays. Everywhere
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Rascal full on December 15, 2013, 04:55:48 AM
he didnt kill anybody. hes in prison because he's a dangerous manipulator. should have been in the military thats where most of those types are.

Haha this is true....Manson seems to have gotten a shitty deal though. Didn't murder anybody himself but is considered one of the worst serial killers in history?!....
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: thebrink on December 15, 2013, 07:33:11 AM
Haha this is true....Manson seems to have gotten a shitty deal though. Didn't murder anybody himself but is considered one of the worst serial killers in history?!....

Indeed. Somehow charged with multiple murders, didnt harm a soul..
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: Gregzs on June 15, 2021, 07:58:18 PM
Remains of at Least 17 People Found Under Alleged Serial Killer's House


Authorities found thousands of bone fragments on the outskirts of Mexico City at the home of a 72-year-old man, allegedly a former butcher and now serial killer.

MEXICO CITY — Authorities have found thousands of bone fragments underneath the home of a suspected serial killer in Mexico, and believe that they could belong to at least 17 different victims.

The owner of the home has been identified as a 72-year-old man known as Andrés, whose last name hasn't been released due to Mexican privacy laws regarding suspected criminals. Investigators have suggested that the killings could have spanned decades.

Police arrested Andrés in the town of Atizapán de Zaragoza in mid-May, shocking the community on the outskirts of Mexico City in neighboring Mexico State. Andrés had been a well-known local fixture who worked as a community representative in regional politics.

Authorities allege that his heinous crimes came to light when the 34-year-old wife of a police commander disappeared after having accompanied Andrés while shopping. The police officer suspected Andrés in her disappearance and gained access to surveillance cameras that showed her entering his house, then never leaving. The officer confronted Andrés at his home and discovered her dismembered corpse inside.

When investigators searched the house they found numerous identification cards of other potential victims.

Andrés has already confessed to several of the murders, but the exact number of victims is still unknown. Over the past month forensics experts dug below the house and recently released their findings about the bone fragments. They also announced the discovery of women's clothing, makeup, jewelry, and a number of cell phones, along with nearly 100 photographs, 28mm video tapes, and 25 VHS cassettes.

The outdated video recordings additionally suggest that the killings may have spanned a significant portion of time, although it's not uncommon for older technology to remain in use in Mexico.

It appears that the majority, if not all of his victims, may have been women. Mexico is generally considered one of the most dangerous countries for women and sees shocking levels of domestic abuse and femicides. Mexico State has regularly seen some of the highest levels of femicides in the country, along with the disappearances of women.

News reports have identified an alleged modus operandi from the confessed murderer, who courted women in their 30s and 40s and gained their trust, before murdering them.

The husband of the final victim told authorities that his wife didn't have a romantic relationship with Andrés and it pained him to see that reported on the news. The police officer said that Andrés was an elderly family friend that he and his wife felt sorry for. They invited him to family gatherings and had tried to help him out economically because of his advanced age.

Andrés reportedly used to work as a butcher, and actually sectioned and filleted at least his latest victim. In total, 3,787 bone fragments have been identified at the house which suggests that he may have instituted that tactic on his other alleged victims. Authorities announced that they intend to continue searching other parts of the property where they believe that there could be additional victims.

Mass graves are frequently discovered in Mexico, which currently has more than 30,000 people listed as missing. But those remains and victims are often understood to be the victims of organized crime, the drug trade and corruption rather than serial killers.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8jg7/remains-of-at-least-17-people-found-under-alleged-serial-killers-house?utm_medium=social&utm_source=vice_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1k1dCn1CILUKzb6PUfIZ37tZREBOUNm4Sr677FMDcBXt8NOxU0ymkqtNI
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: BlackMetallic on June 16, 2021, 01:21:43 AM
i've watched a&e documentaries on serial killers, they stay anonymous by only killing people that are basically anonymous themselves like hitchhikers, prostitutes, run aways, outcasts, homeless

they are smart enough to know you can't get away with killing people they know or are known to be acquainted with, obviously they would be questioned if their neighbor was found murdered

they're out there, you just don't know about them yet or you never will

you can't be a great serial killer without going years before getting busted

E

Black serial killers usually go for white elderly women
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: balsac69 on June 16, 2021, 02:15:10 AM
Here's a list of 20 black serial killers
https://www.ranker.com/list/black-serial-killers/ranker-crime
Title: Re: What ever happened to the good old serial killer?
Post by: balsac69 on June 16, 2021, 02:18:56 AM
Lorenzo gilyard

Full interview on serial killers with piers Morgan on  netflix
Piers Morgan can be a bit of a twat but these interviews are pretty good