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Title: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
http://gothamist.com/2014/01/08/top_christie_aide_emailed_time_for.php




 :o



FYI - Traffic on the GW Bridge is always a frigging nightmare regardless, but to make it worse out of politics is disgusting. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2014, 10:05:47 AM
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303393804579308331794186904


not looking good
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/01/08/email-from-christie-aide-called-for-traffic-problems-in-fort-lee-ahead-of-gwb-lane-closures


 ;D
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 08, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
LOL... knowing what a public clusterfck this traffic backup would create... I highly doubt a staffer just decided on her own to do this.

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2014, 07:32:56 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/91-year-old-woman-died-due-to-delayed-response-resulting-from-nj-bridge-gate-traffic




 >:(
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 08, 2014, 07:40:46 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/91-year-old-woman-died-due-to-delayed-response-resulting-from-nj-bridge-gate-traffic




 >:(


She was 91 years old... ::)
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2014, 07:43:54 PM

She was 91 years old... ::)

Traffic at the GW Bridge is always a disaster - to think that this garbage is done intentinally due to politics = FU YOU!!!!!
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Purge_WTF on January 08, 2014, 08:02:07 PM
He can kiss his Presidential aspirations goodbye.

Very petty.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2014, 08:22:11 PM
He can kiss his Presidential aspirations goodbye.

Very petty.

Traffic at the GWB is a disaster!!!!
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 09, 2014, 08:09:51 AM
He can kiss his Presidential aspirations goodbye.

Very petty.

You would think.......but I ain't holding my breath
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2014, 08:14:32 AM
BREAKING NEWS Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:59 AM EST

U.S. Attorney in New Jersey to Open Inquiry Into Lane Closures


Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey is expected on Thursday to address the growing controversy over the decision by one of his top aides and close associates to deliberately snarl traffic for millions of commuters as an act of political vengeance, even as the United States attorney’s office is expected to open an inquiry into the matter.

After months of denying that anyone in his administration or campaign played any role in the lane closings, which resulted in a traffic nightmare last September on the George Washington Bridge, the governor is scheduled to hold a new conference at 11 a.m., one day after a release of emails and texts showing members of his administration and others were deeply involved. The scandal has presented the governor with the gravest political challenge of his career.

Federal prosecutors in New Jersey will begin a preliminary inquiry into the lane closures in Fort Lee, according to a law enforcement source.

READ MORE »
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/nyregion/christie-controversy-bridge-lane-closings.html?emc=edit_na_20140109
 
 
 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2014, 08:26:03 AM
Christie Fires a Top Aide for Lying About Bridge Scandal

Gov. Chris Christie said that he has terminated the employment of his deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, who wrote an email message to an official at the Port Authority last August, asking if the official, David Wildstein, could order lane closings on the George Washington Bridge. “I am sad to report to the people of New Jersey that we fell short,” Mr. Christie said.

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http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/09/live-updates-on-bridge-scandal-surrounding-chris-christie/?emc=edit_na_20140109
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2014, 09:58:46 AM
Christie Fires a Top Aide for Lying About Bridge Scandal

Gov. Chris Christie said that he has terminated the employment of his deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, who wrote an email message to an official at the Port Authority last August, asking if the official, David Wildstein, could order lane closings on the George Washington Bridge. “I am sad to report to the people of New Jersey that we fell short,” Mr. Christie said.

READ MORE »
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/09/live-updates-on-bridge-scandal-surrounding-chris-christie/?emc=edit_na_20140109


I'd guess (and I'm no lawyer), at the VERY least, she would be open to some civil lawsuit from the family of the 91-year old that died.   The actions of this aide made the trip longer and while she might win, it'll be a pain in the ass for her.

At some point, IF she was ordered to glue things up, she will start pointing fingers, if she's not doing it already.  Personally, I find it hard to believe a mid-level staffer would, on her own, decide to create a national story with a traffic jam.  Possible, but, I dunno.  If I had to bet.  I guess it'll come out. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2014, 10:43:27 AM
"The messages do not directly implicate Christie, but they contradicted his assertions that the closings were not punitive and that his staff was not involved."

it's never good when it's a roll-out of explanations and denials.   Step 1, we didn't do it.  Step 2, we did it but nobody told me about it. 

Step 3 usually comes once this aide points fingers or reveals text messages from Christie's right hand man ordering it.  Then it's him falling on the blame so Christie can still run for President.

Step 4, well, that's when most swing voters figure he was in on it. libs blame him 100%, and his supporters swear up and down it's all a big lib conspiracy.   

in the end, this probably won't stop him from running from president.  His uber-liberal past won't hurt him in the primary with all the conservatives splitting the vote. Will it mean the base doesn't bother voting for him on election day?  Ask President Romney or President mccain.  :(
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: polychronopolous on January 09, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
Where's that one picture of Chris Christie where he looks really really fat?
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: dario73 on January 09, 2014, 12:29:23 PM
What is hilarious is some libtards calling for his resignation.


RINO Christie should resign only after obamatheclown fires Sebelius.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: headhuntersix on January 09, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
I'm not a huge fan but now I've got to defend the guy.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2014, 12:36:25 PM
of corse they want him to resign,he's the only one that had a chance to beat Clinton  ;D
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: dario73 on January 09, 2014, 12:40:56 PM
He can kiss his Presidential aspirations goodbye.

Very petty.

Or he can save them by asking the following: "What difference does it make?"
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: headhuntersix on January 09, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
It would be awesome....he could look into the camera.....'As our beloved former Sec of State said after the deaths of a US Ambassador and his security detail...what difference does it make, you idiots let her get away with it". Then he could slam his water down, flip the table and storm out. I'd vote for him
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2014, 12:47:54 PM
I posted this on my FB page

4 Dead in Benghazi - NO BIG DEAL
 300 Dead in Fast n Furious - NO BIG DEAL
 AP and Millions spied on by NSA - NO BIG DEAL
 IRS targeting political enemies of the Admn - NO BIG DEAL
 $500 Million blown on Solyndra despite warnings - NO BIG DEAL
 ObamaCare? - LMFAO - DISASTER of the Century

 But a few idiots back up traffic and its the end of the world. No excuses for this and heads need to roll and i am sickened thinking of the traffic jams i have been stuck in at the GWB. However - GMAFB if people think this is worse than Benghazi or the other crap we have had to endure.

 Don't be a sheep and mindless follower - they are all hacks and stealing our money and taking away our rights. 99% OF THEM.

 Oh - and STFU and go to the gym and work out.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: headhuntersix on January 09, 2014, 12:51:20 PM
I have a late meeting then I get to go train.....the gym is a shitshow at 430..you people complain about commercial gyms, you've never seen a military gym.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Skip8282 on January 09, 2014, 05:05:36 PM
What is hilarious is some libtards calling for his resignation.


RINO Christie should resign only after obamatheclown fires Sebelius.


Yeah, the left has been arguing for years that nothing that happens under the Obama Administration is Obama's fault.  Now they want to scream like crying babies.

But since I've called them out, I've got no problem calling out Christie.  It's a disgusting abuse of power.  It happened under his watch.  He ought to resign.

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Skip8282 on January 09, 2014, 05:07:40 PM
I have a late meeting then I get to go train.....the gym is a shitshow at 430..you people complain about commercial gyms, you've never seen a military gym.


It's absurdly crowded even though it's 4X the size of an LA Fitness.

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2014, 05:52:43 PM
1) I have called benghazi a huge deal, and believe that obama should be impeached for it.  However, with all the complaining, I've yet to see the articles for impeachment arrive.

2) This is a big deal  Put this aide under oath and ask her if she did it on her own, or if the gov of a US state is now issuing commands like this. 

It's not partisan.   It's just common sense investigation.  Charge her with involntary manslaughter and watch how fast she delivers her personal email account with orders from one of christie's right hand men or something. 

Dudes, seriously, please don't say this doesn't warrant an investigation because Benghazi wasn't investigated.  two wrongs don't make a right.  That kind of shitty logic allows dems to let hilary get away with something in 2017 because "remember what christie did, that was never investigated!"

For real... investigate benghazi and investigate this too.  Period.  People died - put people under oath and ask them who did what.  It's what they'd do at the LOCAL level if some jerk stopped his car in the intersection and someone got killed.  This is the same thing - her actions created intentional gridlock.  Put her under oath.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
1) I have called benghazi a huge deal, and believe that obama should be impeached for it.  However, with all the complaining, I've yet to see the articles for impeachment arrive.

2) This is a big deal  Put this aide under oath and ask her if she did it on her own, or if the gov of a US state is now issuing commands like this. 

It's not partisan.   It's just common sense investigation.  Charge her with involntary manslaughter and watch how fast she delivers her personal email account with orders from one of christie's right hand men or something. 

Dudes, seriously, please don't say this doesn't warrant an investigation because Benghazi wasn't investigated.  two wrongs don't make a right.  That kind of shitty logic allows dems to let hilary get away with something in 2017 because "remember what christie did, that was never investigated!"

For real... investigate benghazi and investigate this too.  Period.  People died - put people under oath and ask them who did what.  It's what they'd do at the LOCAL level if some jerk stopped his car in the intersection and someone got killed.  This is the same thing - her actions created intentional gridlock.  Put her under oath.

feel free to explain on what grounds
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2014, 06:23:54 PM
feel free to explain on what grounds

i believe obama watched it happen, and refused to let us intervene cause he didn't want 120 bad guys splattered, leading to an international incident and Qs about what exactly was going on there.  And of course, repubs screaming all the while about the shady things happening there.   He thought 4 dead workers was an acceptable loss.  Then he' the victim, and not the dude opening up cans of illegal shit on foreign soil. 

i also believe putting ppl under oath would get us to the answers quickly.

I believe it'll never happen.  Repubs talk about it, but just like fast & furious, don't have the balls to open some real investigations and put some people under oath and in handcuffs.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2014, 06:40:31 PM
i believe obama watched it happen, and refused to let us intervene cause he didn't want 120 bad guys splattered, leading to an international incident and Qs about what exactly was going on there.  And of course, repubs screaming all the while about the shady things happening there.   He thought 4 dead workers was an acceptable loss.  Then he' the victim, and not the dude opening up cans of illegal shit on foreign soil. 

i also believe putting ppl under oath would get us to the answers quickly.

I believe it'll never happen.  Repubs talk about it, but just like fast & furious, don't have the balls to open some real investigations and put some people under oath and in handcuffs.

why would Obama care about 120 bad guys "splattered" if they are attacking one of our facilities

why would that be bad press for him when he doesn't seem to have any problems with collateral damage from drone strikes ??

Sheesh man, I assume you're aware that the POTUS can't be impeached based on your imagination of what happened
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: TheGrinch on January 09, 2014, 09:06:15 PM
how exactly do private gmail emails get released to the news???  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2014, 11:48:35 PM
Wow... I finally got caught up on this story... 5 people involved.... 3 have been fired, including his press sec and deputy campaign director, I think.  One lost his RGA appointment.  Dont know about the other.  3 staff members and 2 apointees?  I may be wrong, correct me if so, I just watched the story.

His top deputy director ordered it, and a Christie apointee enacted it.
When asked about it by the mayor's office, another christie staff member said "you win some, you lose some", clearly admitting a contest.  Then the cover up began, and a lot of the wording used in those emails was pretty racially charged... it'll be another day until the media gets on that one, but it ain't pretty. 

You'd have to believe 3 members of his staff did it alone, lied to him the entire time, and 2 of them resigned without ever   telling him why. 

Most people are finding it hard to believe... and given the outright denial, THEN the change to it was just an experiement, THEN to it was only these 5 collaborators and Christie didn't know why they resigned, and didn't ask lol.   

I don't believe it.  I know it's no benghazi, and yes, the left media is loving this story.  But Christie is using ROLLING DISCLOSURE.   We have obama if we want that.  Christie is supposed to be the straight shooter, who keeps it real with us. 

Repubs, just leave this dude at home on election day... Choose Rand or Cruz or Perry or Jeb to whoop Hilary/whoever in 2016.  Aside from his HIGHLY liberal past, his planned parenthood donations, his anti-gun prickery.... Aside from his weight and anger... this dude just isn't a straight shooter.  I think Rand would have owned this.  Cruz would have admitted it.  Perry would have laughed and said "oops!".   Christie is using the obama playbook here.  For us to believe he didn't know about it really forces us to believe a lot of really unbelievable things... staffers resign and he doesn't ask why? 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2014, 04:20:55 AM
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 04:34:37 AM
ah, we haven't seen those Bob videos in a while.  Awesome stuff!!!!!!!!!   I just started the day with a smile. 

Wait til bob sees that Rachel Maddow clip... she points out 12 hours earlier, Christie melted down on NJ state senate dems, called them animals.  Complete and obvious motive.  Now Christie says he has ZERO INTEREST in hearing why they did this, well of course lol.  Great video by Bob, just awesome!  thanks for sharing.

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Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 06:01:35 AM
Limbaugh is a very smart man.  He's seen many politicians lie themselves into obscurity over the past few decades.  And it looks like he reveals here something that might be important.  He claimed he was up all night doing soul searching, the night BEFORE he supposedly found about it.  That might be important.  It would undermine his entire argument that he knew nothing.  Sure, his defenders will say "Oh, he just misspoke", but wow, the pieces are just stacking up more and more.



RUSH: Now you got the New York Times saying (paraphrasing), "We're not moved by this. He may have apologized, but that doesn't mean that this bridge scandal is over." They think this could still be the end of his career. CNN's not letting go. CNN just said this is only the beginning. Let's go to the audio sound bites. Here's Christie. We've got two of them. Listen carefully. Both of these are from today, the press conference. Here's the first one. Listen carefully.

CHRISTIE: Believe me, John, I haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights, and I've been doing a lot of soul-searching. I'm sick over this.

RUSH: I haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights. A lot of soul-searching, sick over this, haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights. Here's the next bite.

CHRISTIE: I was done with my workout yesterday morning, and got a call from my communications director at about 8:50, 8:55 informing me of this story that had just broken on the Bergen Record website, that was the first time I knew about this. It's the first time I had seen any of the documents that were revealed yesterday.

RUSH: Look, I gotta ask, then why didn't he sleep the first night? He said, "I haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights, lot of soul-searching. But I just found out about this yesterday after my workout."

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2014, 07:00:56 AM
(http://www.realclearpolitics.com/cartoons/images/2014/01/10/lisa_benson_current_cartoon_2014-01-10_5_.jpg)
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2014, 07:22:41 AM
ah, we haven't seen those Bob videos in a while.  Awesome stuff!!!!!!!!!   I just started the day with a smile. 

Wait til bob sees that Rachel Maddow clip... she points out 12 hours earlier, Christie melted down on NJ state senate dems, called them animals.  Complete and obvious motive.  Now Christie says he has ZERO INTEREST in hearing why they did this, well of course lol.  Great video by Bob, just awesome!  thanks for sharing.

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Oh. It's ok for Democrats to continually block nominees at a state level, but wrong for Republicans to do it at a federal level. Thus, the nuclear option.   Ah, I see.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 09:16:43 AM
"Oh. It's ok for Democrats to continually block nominees at a state level, but wrong for Republicans to do it at a federal level. Thus, the nuclear option.   Ah, I see."

WTF did I say that's okay?  If they did this, lock their asses up, call them out publicly, etc.  But shutting down a portion of the city and stranding thousands of people - to punish 5 democrats?  WTF kind of sense is that? 

What I'm saying is, there are going to be idiots that block each other, and they are all going to get mad about it.  Lots of butthurt, sure, and if they break law, imprison them.  But what Christie's team did was a CLEAR abuse of power, and it punished a bunch of people just trying to get to work (or to the hospital!)

I see idiots on both left & right boards, all trying to make this about obama or whatever.  Dudes, the Gov's office abused his power and he keep changing his story about it.  Someone DIED because she couldn't get to the hospital.  Ambulance stuck in traffic... The old woman had nothing to do with appointing dems or repubs.

Christie's office (deputy chief of staff) issued a district traffic shutdown - 12 hours after his meltdown - in the home district of what Christie called "those animals". 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 09:48:46 AM
Codey pissed off Christie.  In ONE day, he was stripped of his security guard (usually given to ex-governors), and I believe two of his cousins were fired from their state jobs.   He was a prime example of the political bullying/hardball/toughness that Christie was known for.  So I don't give much credence to this guy's opinion.  If anything, he does nothing but dispel the new claim that "I'm not a bully".   Christie prided himself on getting results form exactly that, being a bully lol. 





Ex-N.J. Guv: Christie Knew Ally's Bridge Excuse Was 'Bullsh*t'


Source: Talking Points Memo

A former New Jersey governor thinks current Gov. Chris Christie (R) may have known more about the George Washington Bridge scandal plaguing his administration than he let on in a nearly two-hour press conference Thursday.

State Sen. Richard Codey (D), who served as governor after former Gov. Jim McGreevey's (D) resignation, told Salon in an interview published Friday that he thinks there has "been a coverup" of the September lane closures on the bridge that gridlocked the borough of Fort Lee, N.J.

Christie said at the press conference that he didn't know his administration was involved in the lane closures until Wednesday, when emails between his deputy chief of staff and one of his appointees to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey discussing the lane closures became public.

"I think when he has had previous press conferences, it’s hard to believe he didn’t have some knowledge … in some way," Codey told Salon. "After the stuff started coming out about some phony traffic study? Come on, you knew this was bullshit. You should’ve been saying this back then."

-snip-

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ricard_codey_christie_bridge_scandal
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/09/if-chris-christie-learned-about-bridge-gate-yesterday-why-has-he-lost-a-lot-of-sleep-for-the-last-two-nights


Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 10:22:31 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/09/if-chris-christie-learned-about-bridge-gate-yesterday-why-has-he-lost-a-lot-of-sleep-for-the-last-two-nights

So Beck's new & Rush are both all over him for this. 

What I'm surprised about... we don't hear a bunch of getbiggers defending him, saying "Oh, who cares if he lied about when he found out" or "Oh, that's just business as usual".

Did far-right conservatives really hate Christie this much?  Soulcrusher?  hh6?  BB?  I'd expect an instant defense of the dude.  Very cool to see people abandoning the blind party loyalty and looking at the facts.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2014, 11:05:14 AM
"Oh. It's ok for Democrats to continually block nominees at a state level, but wrong for Republicans to do it at a federal level. Thus, the nuclear option.   Ah, I see."

WTF did I say that's okay? 

It was meant as a comment on Maddow's failure to point out the democrat hypocrisy. Yeah, I know. We can't expect it from her.

You are awfully sensitive today.

Are you annoyed by the attempt to expand the "stand your ground" law?


Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 11:07:16 AM
It was meant as a comment on Maddow's failure to point out the democrat hypocrisy. Yeah, I know. We can't expect it from her.
You are awfully sensitive today.
Are you annoyed by the attempt to expand the "stand your ground" law?

Do you really want the 240s of the world to have the legal right to fire warning shots?  LOL... "Oh, I felt threat, warning shot.  Oh, I was scared, warning shot".  lol... there's a difference between supporting gun rights and giving people the leash to be emotional idiots with their guns. 

Maddow's job is to support the left, just as rush's job is to support the right.  Christie doesn't fall under either party lol.  He's a RINO.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
So Beck's new & Rush are both all over him for this. 

What I'm surprised about... we don't hear a bunch of getbiggers defending him, saying "Oh, who cares if he lied about when he found out" or "Oh, that's just business as usual".

Did far-right conservatives really hate Christie this much?  Soulcrusher?  hh6?  BB?  I'd expect an instant defense of the dude.  Very cool to see people abandoning the blind party loyalty and looking at the facts.

I live here and the traffic at GWB is ATROCIOUS.  To think it was ever on purpose over petty bs?  Oh fuck that!!!!  

If Christie knew and did not fire the person when he found out about it - even if it was a month ago - he is in deep shit  
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 10, 2014, 11:53:02 AM
The reason Christie can't sleep at night is likely because he knows as soon as someone in the know gets immunity then it's going to be revealed that Christie knew about this
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 12:17:38 PM
how did the email get shown
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 12:22:07 PM
yes he'll be finished if he had knowledge...just on obstructing emergency vehicles or even aiding in a situation that may cause that will be too much for his enemies to not use agasinst him mercilessly
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 12:26:36 PM
how did the email get shown

one of the people in the loop must have released them.  Perhaps this "Charlie" on his staff that keeps getting discussed but hasn't been named yet.  There's a lot of REDACTED parts... probably the releaser covering their ass.  My guess is that the other people thrown under the bus, once they're under oath and offered immunity... one of them might release the other half of the emails showing other things.  Whatever they chose to redact couldn't have been good.

We know half of the emails (WSJ released a long list of them, they're more interesting than just the main one they're focusing on)... we know that more than half of the emails were about the heat some of the people were feeling from reporters asking who gave the order.  it's always the coverup that causes the big mess.  Reporters have been hounding them for what looks like 2 months...

They haven't discussed much of what was in the emails... some pretty tough language.  IF we ever see the part that was redacted, it could become ugly.  They probably have all the lawyers making deals to quietly make it all go away.  You know, "Here's a book deal with a non-disclosure..... and a million bucks..." for a book they'll never collect.   heck, if my boss was the gov and he threw me under the bus, and offered a huge cash settlement to just STFU, I'd probably do it... I dont see what other options they'd have.  Just some staffer's word versus the honorable governor.  Christie has destroyed some of his political enemies in the past.  Ruthless dude that sudednly claims "i'm not a bully" when that toughness is what has taken him this far.   However, if prosecutors arrive from investigation and start talking jail time, then it gets ugly.

So weird a traffic jam used for vengeance could lead to him losing a likely slot for prez.  unreal.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
 "A Timeline For Those Just Tuning In To The Christie Bridge Scandal"


Eric Lach – January 8, 2014, 1:34 PM EST9163

The Gov. Chris Christie (R) bridge scandal metastasized on Wednesday.

Subpoenaed documents obtained by TPM and other media outlets revealed direct ties between the Christie administration and the discussion about closing lanes on the George Washington Bridge in September. The lane closures lead to a massive, multi-day traffic jam in the town of Fort Lee, N.J.

Officials with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which oversees the bridge, have maintained that the lanes were closed as a result of a traffic study. But Democrats in New Jersey have dismissed that explanation. Instead, they have suggested the closures were retaliation against Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, a Democrat, who declined to endorse Christie's re-election bid last year.

For those just tuning in, here's a recap of some of the key dates and moments in the ongoing story.

August 13: "Time For Some Traffic Problems In Fort Lee"

According to the documents released on Wednesday, one of Christie's closest aides was involved in a discussion about the order to close the lanes, weeks before the closure actually took place. On Aug. 13, Christie Deputy Chief of Staff for Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs Bridget Anne Kelly sent an email to David Wildstein, a former high school classmate of Christie's and one of the governor's appointees to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee," Kelly wrote.

"Got it," Wildstein replied.

The documents released Wednesday are heavily redacted in parts, making it hard to tell if Kelly meant the traffic problems were the motivation for the closure, or whether she was anticipating the traffic as an effect of the order.

Sept. 6: The Order Comes In

Wildstein ordered the bridge's general manager to carry out the lane closures.

Sept. 9: The Lanes Are Closed

The lane closures began. A few days later, here's how a local news report described the results:

    The Port Authority, which runs the bridge, cut the number of tollbooths from three to one on the big span and narrowed the traffic patterns on its approaches from two Fort Lee streets. Instead of three lanes, the approach from Bruce Reynolds Boulevard and Martha Washington Way funnels down to one lane that leads to a combination cash-and-E-ZPass toll booth.

Sept. 10: "Is It Wrong That I Am Smiling?"

According to the documents released Wednesday, Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich texted Bill Baroni, another Christie appointee to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, on Sept. 10 and expressed worries about "getting kids to school." That message appears to have been relayed to Wildstein, who replied with the following text message: "Is it wrong that I am smiling?"

Sept. 13: Fort Lee Mayor Goes Public With Suspicions

Just days after the lanes were closed, Sokolich raised the possibility that politics were involved.

"I've asked the Port for an explanation, but they haven't responded," Sokolich told a local columnist in a piece published on Sept. 13. "I thought we had a good relationship. Now I'm beginning to wonder if there's something I did wrong. Am I being sent some sort of message?"

Nov. 25: The Grilling Begins

New Jersey legislators hold a hearing to question top Port Authority officials about the lane closures.

"You are a masterful dancer and we appreciate your dancing skills," Assemblyman John Wisniewski told Baroni, according to WNYC.

In his testimony, Baroni told lawmakers that local mayors and transportation official were not notified about the lane closure plan due to a communication failure.

Dec. 2: Christie Speaks Out, Makes Light

Christie himself addressed the controversy for the first time. At a news conference in Trenton, N.J., Christie made light of the suggestion that he was connected to the closures.

"I worked the cones, actually," Christie said, according to WNYC. "Unbeknownst to everybody I was actually the guy out there, in overalls and a hat."

"You really are not serious with that question," Christie added.

Dec. 6: First Christie Pal Resigns

Wildstein announced his decision to resign from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. In a letter to Baroni, Wildstein wrote that he would leave on Jan. 1 “to pursue other opportunities," according to The Bergen Record.

Dec. 13: Second Christie Pal Resigns

Baroni followed Wildstein out the door. But unlike Wildstein, Baroni's resignation took effect as soon as it was announced.

Christie said the resignation was "nothing that I hadn’t planned already."

"Baroni said when he testified [during a recent hearing] that a mistake was made. They believe that the study needed to be done but they didn’t do it correctly within the protocols of the Port Authority," Christie said. "He’s taken responsibility for that, as well he should because he’s the lead person for New Jersey at the Port."

Dec. 18: Lawyers Get Involved

After hiring attorneys, both Wildstein and Baroni were given two more days to comply with subpoenas demanding all documents and correspondence between members of the Christie administration and Port Authority officials.

Dec. 19: Christie Calls Scandal 'Not That Big A Deal'

At a news conference, Christie once again dismissed the scandal, and criticized reporters for focusing on it.

"I have a lot of things to do. ... I know you guys are obsessed with this. I'm not, I'm really not. It's just -- it's not that big a deal just because press runs around and writes about it both here and nationally. I know why that is and so do you," Christie said. "Let's not pretend that it's because of the gravity of the issue. It's because I am a national figure and anything like this will be written about a lot now. So, let's not pretend."

Jan. 8: Documents Become Public

TPM and other news outlets obtain documents that show the communications between Christie's allies about the bridge lane closures.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/bridge-scandal-timeline
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Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 12:44:14 PM
"Christie Aide: 'Time For Some Traffic Problems in Fort Lee'"

One of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's (R) closest aides was involved in the discussion about the order to close lanes on the George Washington Bridge in September, snarling traffic in the town of Fort Lee.

Documents obtained Wednesday by TPM show that Christie's Deputy Chief of Staff for Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs, Bridget Anne Kelly, talked about the closures with the agency that oversees the bridge weeks before they ocurred.

"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee," Kelly wrote in an Aug. 13 email to David Wildstein, one of Christie's appointees to the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey.

"Got it," Wildstein replied.

It's not clear from the documents, which have been heavily redacted in some parts, whether Kelly meant the traffic problems were the motivation for the closure or the effect of it.

On Aug. 28, Wildstein emailed Kelly to say he wanted to speak with her on the phone about Fort Lee. They apparently connected on Aug. 30 when Kelly sent an email indicating she would call him "in about an hour."

"That will undoubtedly be the highlight of my day," wrote Wildstein.

Christie has repeatedly denied he played any role in the decision to shut the lanes. Wildstein, a close ally and former high school classmate of Christie's, ordered the bridge's general manager to carry out the closures on Sept. 6 and the closures began Sept. 9.

Some Democrats have alleged the order to shut the lanes was retaliation against Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, a Democrat, who had declined to endorse Christie's re-election bid.

On Wednesday, after the documents became public, Sokolich said he agreed.

"I've been punished not for something I've done, but for something I didn't do," Sokolich told the Wall Street Journal. "This is the behavior of a bully in a schoolyard. It is the greatest example of political payback."

Other communications among the subpoenaed documents show Wildstein requesting "radio silence" after Sokolich called Port Authority describing the gridlock as an "urgent matter of public safety in Fort Lee" and asking for an explanation.

"His name comes right after mayor Fulop," Wildstein wrote in an apparent reference to Democratic Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop.

On Sept. 9 and Sept. 10, Wildstein was apparently receiving ongoing updates about the "traffic disaster" in Fort Lee. On Sept. 10, Wildstein said to someone via text message that Fort Lee's mayor had reached out to Bill Baroni, another Christie appointee, expressing worries about "getting kids to school."

"Help please. It's maddening," Sokolich wrote in a message to Baroni.

That message appears to have been passed on to Wildstein who wrote, "Is it wrong that I am smiling?"

It is unclear who Wildstein was corresponding with, however the recipient of his message said, "No."

"I feel badly about the kids," wrote Wildstein. "I guess."

"They are the children of Buono voters," joked Wildstein's correspondent, referring to Christie's challenger in last November's election, Barbara Buono.

Wildstein and Baroni have said the lanes were closed as a result of a traffic study.

An email from Wildstein to Kelly on Sept. 6 indicated Wildstein approved a "traffic study" requested by the mayor of Springfield, N.J. It's unclear whether that traffic study had anything to do with the lane closures. The email said the traffic study was "for Morris Avenue." Morris Avenue in Springfield is more than 25 miles from the George Washington Bridge in Fort Lee.

Both Wildstein and Baroni resigned from their positions at Port Authority last month as questions about the lane closures mounted. The New Jersey Assembly's Transportation Committee subpoenaed Wildstein, Baroni, and five other officials for any correspondence between Port Authority officials and the Christie administration. Based on documents obtained in those subpoenas Wildstein was ordered to testify at a hearing scheduled for Thursday.

Port Authority Executive Director Patrick Foye, who was appointed by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) has said he was not notified of the traffic closures. He ordered the lanes re-opened Sept. 13. That day, Wildstein emailed Kelly to notify her the lane closures were reversed.

"The New York side gave Fort Lee back all three lanes this morning. We are appropriately going nuts. Samson helping us to retaliate," wrote Wildstein in an apparent reference to another Christie appointee at Port Authority, Chairman David Samson.

"What??" Kelly replied.

Other emails indicate Wildstein and Baroni were in communication with Christie's press secretary Michael Drewniak, Kelly, and others in the Christie administration as Sokolich and the media raised questions about the closures.

Texts from Baroni to Wildstein contain what seem to be messages from Sokolich expressing "frustration" that the closures seem to be the result of someone being "mad at me." Baroni referred to those messages as coming, "from Serbia," an apparent mistaken reference to Sokolich being Croatian.

Wildstein also discussed coverage of the closures with Christie's campaign manager Bill Stepien on Sept. 18.

"It's fine. The mayor is an idiot, though," wrote Stepien.

Wildstein indicated that he "had empty boxes ready to take to work today" when he saw an article about the closures. He also implied the traffic jam would cause political problems for Sokolich.

"It will be a tough November for this little Serbian," Wildstein wrote.

Wildstein, Baroni, Kelly, and Drewniak did not immediately respond to requests for comment from TPM Wednesday.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/christie-aide-bridge-documents
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 12:51:14 PM
one of the people in the loop must have released them.  Perhaps this "Charlie" on his staff that keeps getting discussed but hasn't been named yet.  There's a lot of REDACTED parts... probably the releaser covering their ass.  My guess is that the other people thrown under the bus, once they're under oath and offered immunity... one of them might release the other half of the emails showing other things.  Whatever they chose to redact couldn't have been good.

We know half of the emails (WSJ released a long list of them, they're more interesting than just the main one they're focusing on)... we know that more than half of the emails were about the heat some of the people were feeling from reporters asking who gave the order.  it's always the coverup that causes the big mess.  Reporters have been hounding them for what looks like 2 months...

They haven't discussed much of what was in the emails... some pretty tough language.  IF we ever see the part that was redacted, it could become ugly.  They probably have all the lawyers making deals to quietly make it all go away.  You know, "Here's a book deal with a non-disclosure..... and a million bucks..." for a book they'll never collect.   heck, if my boss was the gov and he threw me under the bus, and offered a huge cash settlement to just STFU, I'd probably do it... I dont see what other options they'd have.  Just some staffer's word versus the honorable governor.  Christie has destroyed some of his political enemies in the past.  Ruthless dude that sudednly claims "i'm not a bully" when that toughness is what has taken him this far.   However, if prosecutors arrive from investigation and start talking jail time, then it gets ugly.

So weird a traffic jam used for vengeance could lead to him losing a likely slot for prez.  unreal.

they should know email isnt secure and will stay to be taken at any time..in the office of a man that stood to become POTUS...it is the hardest part to believe..that they would have given openings in this way...very, very, very, very hard to believe
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 12:52:02 PM
et tu brute?
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 01:13:29 PM
some documents:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/197338532/Chris-Christie-Bridge-Scandal-Documents
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Las Vegas on January 10, 2014, 01:16:30 PM
thinking he was set up or more likely pulled into setting himself up...
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2014, 02:21:11 PM
There are many important lessons in the Chris Christie saga.

My grandfather summed it up best. He came to America with nothing- literally only with the coins in his pockets. Yet he built a successful small business in Bronxville New York. It was a 4-man butcher store, yet he retired the equivalent (adjusting for inflation) of a self-made millionaire in the 1970’s. He was a remarkable man.

Chris Christie could have used his wisdom.

My grandfather said two things matter in life:

#1) Loyalty is everything. Never betray your friends or family. If you do, it will come back around to destroy you.

#2) When it comes to business, the customer is always right.

I’d add a third rule: You can kiss your enemy, but you should refrain from French-kissing him.

Chris Christie violated all three rules. Now his political career is hanging by a thread, and his GOP Presidential prospects are all but dead. Not completely dead, mind you. Never count a New York/New Jersey street fighter out. But certainly on life support.

Let’s look at what happened to Christie:

I’m a Tea Party Libertarian-conservative Republican. Mitt Romney was not my cup of tea (excuse the pun). But once I choose sides, I’m “all in.” There is no 90% or even 100%. Either you give everything you have, or don’t get involved. So I gave Mitt 110%.

I knew the re-election of Obama would devastate the economy and kill more jobs. I knew the implementation of Obamacare would annihilate the middle class. I knew Romney was the only alternative. So I was “all in.” I gave Mitt everything I had. His loss was devastating to me.

But not Chris Christie. He sold Mitt out for ego, media spotlight and his own political future. As soon as Christie saw the opportunity to advance his own future Presidential prospects, he dumped Mitt like yesterday’s news. He didn’t just stab Mitt in the back, and kiss Obama’s ring. He went a step further- he French-kissed Obama at the New Jersey airport.

As my butcher grandfather taught me, you never betray your friends like that. Never. There would have been nothing wrong with shaking Obama’s hand at the airport and announcing when there is a natural disaster we all come together, Republican and Democrat. That would be fine.

But Christie became BFF (Best friends forever) with Obama that day. Christie’s over-the-top lovefest destroyed Romney’s Presidential ambitions. At the time several national polls had Romney up by 5 to 7 points. His ratings sunk like quicksand after Christie’s embrace. With friends like Chris Christie, who needs enemies?

What did Christie get out of it? Was it pure ego, to prove his bi-partisan credentials and win adulation from the liberal media? Yes, I think that was part if it.

Did Obama bribe Christie? Was he promised billions of dollars in government loans and hurricane FEMA relief money if he stabbed Romney in the back? Yes, I think that was part of it.

Was it pure political payback for not being chosen as Romney’s V.P? Yes, I think that was part of it.

Or was it pure political calculation? Did Christie realize if his buddy Romney won the election, he (Christie) would have no political future. Romney would be in for 8 long years and Christie would have nowhere to move up, and be long forgotten after his second term as Governor was up. My guess is all of the above.

Don’t forget this is a guy who Romney chose as the keynote speaker at the GOP Convention. Christie rewarded his faith by giving an entire speech about himself. Listening to Christie’s speech that night, I wasn’t sure if it was Romney or Christie accepting the nomination.

This same Christie went out of his way to denigrate and bad mouth the Tea Party. You know the same group that is the very foundation of the GOP. The same group that makes up the most loyal base of support, donations, energy and excitement for the GOP. The same group that produced the greatest landslide in modern political history in 2010. Why? Once again, ego. Christie needed to flex his muscles, prove his independence, and win adulation from the liberal media.

Christie and Obama- BFF. Christie and liberal Bruce Springstein- BFF. Christie and the liberal GOP-hating media- BFF. Christie's political future- up in smoke.

The lessons?

First, what goes around comes around. Karma’s a bi-ch. Christie got what was coming to him.

Second, my grandfather was right. The customer is always right. Any Republican who badmouths the Tea Party is biting the hand that feeds you.

Third, stop trying to make friends with the media. The media hates all Republicans, even the “moderate” ones. When a Republican courts the media, he dances with the devil.

Fourth, never trust big government Republicans. They use the same power of government to damage people's lives, just as Democrats like Obama do.

I actually feel bad for Christie. Hillary Clinton did much worse (see 4 dead Americans at Benghazi, a massive cover-up, and her ensuing testimony "What does it matter?”). But the media protects her.

Barack Obama committed crimes against the American people (see IRS scandal, Benghazi, Fast & Furious, Obamacare fraud). But the media protects him.

Christie's scandal was just a parking jam for gosh sakes.

Nonetheless, I can’t help smiling. Chris Christie got what he deserves..



Wayne Allyn Root is capitalist evangelist, entrepreneur, and Libertarian-conservative Republican. He is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee. Wayne's latest book is "The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide: Secrets to Protecting Your Family, Your Finances, and Your Freedom." For more, visit his website: www.ROOTforAmerica.com. Follow him on Twitter@WayneRoot
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: AD2100 on January 10, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
http://gothamist.com/2014/01/08/top_christie_aide_emailed_time_for.php




 :o



FYI - Traffic on the GW Bridge is always a frigging nightmare regardless, but to make it worse out of politics is disgusting. 

The busiest bridge IN THE WORLD.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
He had the bridge closed from Sept 9th to 12th.

We all know NYC is at risk for terror attacks on the anniv of 9/11.  What if we had been attacked, and there had been 50 or 100 ambulances filled with victims, bleeding out because Christie's team needed days #3 and 4 of their little prank.  Imagine fire trucks frozen in traffic... "Is it wrong that i'm smiling?"  Yes, you piece of shit, it very much is wrong. 

And I'm shocked that Rudy was on MSNBC defending him yesterday... he put NY/NJ at greated risk on 9/11.  That's gotta piss off people in his state.  That's all we need are thousands of people clogging up a bridge.  Easy targets at the very least.  Reduced rescue capacity too. 

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2014, 08:34:17 PM
Once Christie hugged O-SHITHEAD I knew exactly where he was.  F him and F Obama.   
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2014, 08:43:43 PM
Once Christie hugged O-SHITHEAD I knew exactly where he was.  F him and F Obama.   

And just like Obama, Christie is so full of himself, that he is willing to make fun of real questions - while either not knowing the facts, or just being so brash and obnoxious that he doesn't care about them.  A woman died in the gridlock his team created, and he takes joking credit for being the fake construction worker lol.  Just unbelievable.


Dec. 2: Christie Speaks Out, Makes Light
Christie himself addressed the controversy for the first time. At a news conference in Trenton, N.J., Christie made light of the suggestion that he was connected to the closures.
"I worked the cones, actually," Christie said, according to WNYC. "Unbeknownst to everybody I was actually the guy out there, in overalls and a hat."
"You really are not serious with that question," Christie added.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 10, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
Once Christie hugged O-SHITHEAD I knew exactly where he was.  F him and F Obama.   

wtf man?

You haven't figured out that Obama and Ayers are framing Christie ?

At some point they might even give him a heart attack

you heard it here first
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2014, 03:07:43 AM
wtf man?

You haven't figured out that Obama and Ayers are framing Christie ?

At some point they might even give him a heart attack

you heard it here first


True.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2014, 10:00:42 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/port-authority-head-fort-lee-_n_4577516.html#comments



Geez - and locally this story have been in the news for awhile.  Christie is looking exactly like Obama - either he is lying or he is incompetent
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 11, 2014, 10:10:46 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/port-authority-head-fort-lee-_n_4577516.html#comments

Geez - and locally this story have been in the news for awhile.  Christie is looking exactly like Obama - either he is lying or he is incompetent

it was in the liberal media months ago

given how the liberal media is so pervasive I'm surprised you managed to miss the story until now
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2014, 10:38:23 AM
it was in the liberal media months ago

given how the liberal media is so pervasive I'm surprised you managed to miss the story until now

I have known about this story for awhile.   Just didn't go national until recently. 


The traffic at the bridge is awful.  I live no far from it.   Both sides of the bridge - its sucks!!!!  To think it was or can be done intentionally by these political hacks is disgusting. 

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 11, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
I have known about this story for awhile.   Just didn't go national until recently. 


The traffic at the bridge is awful.  I live no far from it.   Both sides of the bridge - its sucks!!!!  To think it was or can be done intentionally by these political hacks is disgusting. 



to think it was done on the anniversary of 9/11 is disgusting. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 11, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
Lindsey Graham is the first big-name repub to attack Christie.

“It seems to me that this whole bridge thing reinforces a narrative that’s troublesome about the guy, he’s kind of a bully,” Graham told NBC News on Thursday on Capitol Hill, referring to the scandal over land closures on the George Washington Bridge that’s engulfed Christie over the past two days…

“If anybody in my office had done such a thing, they knew what their fate would be cause I’m not that kind a guy,” Graham said. “I just don’t see how people that close to him could have felt comfortable enough to do this if they thought their boss wasn’t of this mindset. Isn’t that just common sense?”…

“I think he’s going to have a hard time in the South, I really do. The edge is part of it. You know, he’s a little too slick by half,” Graham said.

He added: “I think the problem he’s going to have in the South is against the view of his actual positions because it’s hard for me to understand what he’s for and what he’s against on the social side.”
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 11, 2014, 09:04:42 PM
He had the bridge closed from Sept 9th to 12th.

He did?

those are some pretty strong words retard, you better have some more proof other than your always wrong intuition...

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 11, 2014, 09:10:35 PM
He did?
those are some pretty strong words retard, you better have some more proof other than your always wrong intuition...

The bridge was closed from Sept 9th to 12, I believe? 

Are you seriously showing up and telling getbig you believe Christie wasn't responsible & knew nothing? 

LOL I think you'd be the first person here to believe him.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 11, 2014, 09:12:34 PM
The bridge was closed from Sept 9th to 12, I believe? 

Are you seriously showing up and telling getbig you believe Christie wasn't responsible & knew nothing? 

LOL I think you'd be the first person here to believe him.
so you have no proof, just your proven ignorant and wrong intuition?

got it....
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 11, 2014, 09:19:31 PM
so you have no proof, just your proven ignorant and wrong intuition?

got it....

it's either willful ignorance "see no evil, plausible deniability", or he ordered it.

Christie once bragged that shutting down traffic was his "favorite thing about being Governor"

Christie: Best Part About Being Guv Is 'Going To New York City' (VIDEO)

PEMA LEVY – FEBRUARY 27, 2013, 2:42 PM EST
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) joked Wednesday that his favorite thing about being governor was "going to New York City" because he now gets to avoid all the traffic.

Asked by an eight-year-old girl at a town hall in Montville what his favorite thing about being governor was, Christie said he had a fun answer and a serious answer.

"When you're governor, they close the Lincoln Tunnel for you," Christie said. "And you get to drive right through. No traffic. It's the best. I love going to New York now. I used to hate it…. that's the most fun thing on the fun side about being governor."

Christie added that this might be why his wife wants him to win re-election.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 11, 2014, 09:22:58 PM
LMFAO so again, you have no proof that he knew of or directed this....

got it...
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 11, 2014, 09:39:55 PM
LMFAO so again, you have no proof that he knew of or directed this....

got it...

lol... and you're perhaps the only getbigger that looks at the mountain of evidence against him and says "you can't prove anything!" 

Even the people that defended Hermann Cain with "maybe those 14 women conspired and he only confessed to make the silly story stop" aren't buying into Christie's currently 3rd version of events.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 08:12:45 AM
lol... and you're perhaps the only getbigger that looks at the mountain of evidence against him and says "you can't prove anything!" 

Even the people that defended Hermann Cain with "maybe those 14 women conspired and he only confessed to make the silly story stop" aren't buying into Christie's currently 3rd version of events.
i got alot of help from watching you and the rest of the libtards excuse obama for the constant scandals in his admin
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: OzmO on January 12, 2014, 09:30:00 AM
Repubs/conservatives attacking Christie....... good or bad idea?

Bad
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 09:37:21 AM
Repubs/conservatives attacking Christie....... good or bad idea?

Bad
I think if there is evidence he knew he needs to be held accountable just like any other person. As this was an unapproved/unofficial action we need proof he knew.

Shit like fast and furious, targeting opposing political groups with the IRS etc that were officially approved actions...that type of shit lies with the head of the organization...

and by evidence I dont mean 240's type of evidence that he uses for cases like zimmerman/hendrix ;)
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
Christie is guilty as shit here.  Guilty of complete ignorance.  Guilty of accepting numerous resignations without asking why.  Rush caught him in a lie about "when" he knew.  Guilty of citing a traffic study when none such study ever existed.

That's what has been proven so far. 

Now, in the coming days, weeks, months, there may be more.  But he's already shown he's not able to manage a simple bridge closure vendetta without shitting in the bed.  Does anyone here really want him running the USA?  LOL
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
Christie is guilty as shit here.  Guilty of complete ignorance.  Guilty of accepting numerous resignations without asking why.  Rush caught him in a lie about "when" he knew.  Guilty of citing a traffic study when none such study ever existed.

That's what has been proven so far. 

Now, in the coming days, weeks, months, there may be more.  But he's already shown he's not able to manage a simple bridge closure vendetta without shitting in the bed.  Does anyone here really want him running the USA?  LOL
so once again no proof, just the ignorant rambling of a person who has proven himself through his personal actions and his views on other issues to make up facts, cite opinions as fact and generally side on the wrong side of the issue.

got it...
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 10:59:30 AM
so once again no proof, just the ignorant rambling of a person who has proven himself through his personal actions and his views on other issues to make up facts, cite opinions as fact and generally side on the wrong side of the issue.

got it...

LOL WTF are you talking about?  The proof already exists for the first 4 items I listed.  We'll have to see just how involved he was - but it's already been proven he was misleading in his statements after the fact.

tony, did you even read the timeline of events & statments made along the way?  LOL Christie just kept changing his story...  Read the timeline, it's on page 2 of this thread, someone else posted it.  Christie is ALREADY on version #3 of this story, he's using "rolling disclosure" every time people learn more about the story.  He spoke definitively on it twice - denied it, then confirmed it was a (non-existent) traffic study, and finally blamed everyone who never told him anything (even as his own timelines for being sad kept changing). 

Christie is a fcking liar on this issue.  Maybe he didn't issue whatever command, we don't know that yet. But he is guilty of lying after the fact.  That cannot be argued, tony.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 11:17:02 AM
LOL WTF are you talking about?  The proof already exists for the first 4 items I listed.  We'll have to see just how involved he was - but it's already been proven he was misleading in his statements after the fact.

tony, did you even read the timeline of events & statments made along the way?  LOL Christie just kept changing his story...  Read the timeline, it's on page 2 of this thread, someone else posted it.  Christie is ALREADY on version #3 of this story, he's using "rolling disclosure" every time people learn more about the story.  He spoke definitively on it twice - denied it, then confirmed it was a (non-existent) traffic study, and finally blamed everyone who never told him anything (even as his own timelines for being sad kept changing). 

Christie is a fcking liar on this issue.  Maybe he didn't issue whatever command, we don't know that yet. But he is guilty of lying after the fact.  That cannot be argued, tony.
yup he may have found out a day earlier than he said...

LOL and that to you means he directed this?

He had the bridge closed from Sept 9th to 12th.

Knowing about it earlier doesnt equate to the stupidity above you fucking moron!!!
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
yup he may have found out a day earlier than he said...

He lied about when he knew, you say?   You have immediately called Christie a dishonest man.  One without credibility.  Why would he lie about it, if he was truly in the dark about it? 

Now we just have to argue about which parts of the story he's lying about.  We already agree he's a fcking liar on this situation - now you're just arguing about additional lies which have not yet been proven.  It's like my chick banging one dude, and her bragging "hey, you still haven't proven the other 6 dudes I'm banging".   She's already a whore, she's already not credible, she's alread a bag of shit, if this is the case. 

We already agree Christie is a lying bag of shit.

Now we just have to discuss how much of a lying bag of shit christie is. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 11:30:28 AM
Now we just have to argue about which parts of the story he's lying about. 

there is no arguing you piece of shit, you either have proof or you fucking dont.....
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Skip8282 on January 12, 2014, 03:40:31 PM

Christie is guilty as shit here.  Guilty of complete ignorance. 



No, no, no.  Squid pro ro, Mr. Powers.

You libs (like typical, unthinking, douchebags) set the bar with Obama.

Unless you can produce an email, text, taped conversation or some other PROOF that Christie knew, he's free and clear.
 
Probably shouldn't have even fired his underlings if we're true to holding the same standards.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 03:46:16 PM

No, no, no.  Squid pro ro, Mr. Powers.

You libs (like typical, unthinking, douchebags) set the bar with Obama.

Unless you can produce an email, text, taped conversation or some other PROOF that Christie knew, he's free and clear.
 
Probably shouldn't have even fired his underlings if we're true to holding the same standards.

exactly
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 05:52:15 PM
sounds like Christie looks like absolute horse shit - to the point his own party is destroying him - so the standard course of action on getbig is to "attack the messenger" with a whole pile of "240 is a moron" posts.

In the meantime, we overlook a billion dollar motive for the shutdowns:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/12/steve-kornacki-chris-christie-bridge-scandal_n_4585830.html
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 05:59:14 PM
sounds like Christie looks like absolute horse shit - to the point his own party is destroying him - so the standard course of action on getbig is to "attack the messenger" with a whole pile of "240 is a moron" posts.

In the meantime, we overlook a billion dollar motive for the shutdowns:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/12/steve-kornacki-chris-christie-bridge-scandal_n_4585830.html
so still no proof for your ignorant opinions?

got it....
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
so still no proof for your ignorant opinions?

got it....

did you read what i wrote?  Christie contradicted himself.  Twice.  He's lied now.  Twice.  New versions every time some new info breaks.  Even repubs won't defend his ass.  I'd expect this from Archer, lol, as he and I had some long debates about the innocence of Hermann cain.  I smelled BS on cain in minute one, and even as all these women came out with accusations, he kept up with "no proof!" until Cain himself admitted it.   I thought he and I would be having this debate.  You?  lol I thought you'd instantly be like "yep, RINO christie lying like his hero obama".   Instead, you're asking me to prove christy lied lol.... he's changed his story twice, that's a fact.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 06:12:31 PM
did you read what i wrote?  Christie contradicted himself.  Twice.  He's lied now.  Twice.  New versions every time some new info breaks.  Even repubs won't defend his ass.  I'd expect this from Archer, lol, as he and I had some long debates about the innocence of Hermann cain.  I smelled BS on cain in minute one, and even as all these women came out with accusations, he kept up with "no proof!" until Cain himself admitted it.   I thought he and I would be having this debate.  You?  lol I thought you'd instantly be like "yep, RINO christie lying like his hero obama".   Instead, you're asking me to prove christy lied lol.... he's changed his story twice, that's a fact.
as I have already stated if he knew or was involved then he needs to be held accountable.

as of now you have no proof at all only he may have misstated when he heard about it LMFAO

I shouldnt really expect much from you given the idiocy you displayed on the zimmerman and hendrix issue though ::)
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:17:08 PM
GWB probe targets Christie's office; renewal of subpoena power expected

Source: Bergen Record

The George Washington Bridge lane-closure investigation could reach into Governor Christie’s office as early as Monday when a new round of subpoenas is expected to land on the desks of key members of Christie’s inner circle, a Democratic legislator leading the probe said on Saturday.

Assemblyman John Wisniewski said he plans to issue subpoenas demanding documents from the governor’s former deputy chief of staff Bridget Anne Kelly and spokesman Michael Drewniak, along with other aides whose names surfaced last week in documents related to the lane closures in early September.

The subpoenaed records — and, potentially, orders to testify under oath — could offer a rare peek at the internal deliberations of a highly disciplined and insulated office. They could also either confirm or dispel suspicions that have thrust the Christie administration into the gravest controversy it has faced — speculation that the goverenor’s office was involved in a plan to exact revenge by authorizing lane closures that led to traffic jams in Fort Lee in September.

“We’re no longer looking at just lane closures,” Wisniewski said, “we’re looking at an abuse of power and an attempt to cover up that abuse of power.”

Read more: http://www.northjersey.com/fortlee/christi_geb_port_authority_traffic_lane_study.html
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 06:18:55 PM
rightfully there should be an investigation and if you get proof let me know, until then quit making ignorant fucking assumptions and stating opinion as fact.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:19:35 PM
Jersey's Top Paper Isn't Buying Christie's Story: It 'Stretches The Bounds Of Belief'

The editorial page of the largest newspaper in New Jersey has some serious doubts that Gov. Chris Christie (R) only learned this week that a close aide signed off on lane closures that caused paralysis on the George Washington Bridge last summer.

The governor's claim, wrote the editorial board of The Star-Ledger on Thursday, "stretches the bounds of belief."

When his appointees at the Port Authority resigned, did he really not ask why? And was he not curious enough to inquire about the content of the emails being handed over in these subpoenas? Did he really just wait to read about it all in the papers?

The Star-Ledger, which begrudgingly endorsed Christie for re-election last year, published another tough editorial earlier this week, questioning whether the presumed presidential candidate can be trusted "as a potential future leader of our country."

Another Garden State paper, The Bergen Record, argued Thursday that the lane closures on the bridge warrant a criminal investigation.

- more -

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/star-ledger-christie-bridge-bounds-of-belief






NJ rep.: ‘Unbelievable’ Christie wasn’t told of George Washington Bridge lane closures


Source: The Hill

The New Jersey state assemblyman leading the investigation of the September lane closures on the George Washington Bridge said it was “unbelievable” that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.) was never told about the issue by his aides.

Christie last week fired a senior aide over the bridge scandal, but insisted that he had no firsthand knowledge of decision to close the bridge lanes that created a traffic catastrophe in Fort Lee, N.J.

State Rep. John Wisniewski (D-N.J.), who is leading the assembly’s bridge investigation as a transportation panel chair, said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” he was skeptical Christie’s aides never told him about the decision to close the bridge lanes or the discussions afterward revealed in emails released this week.

He noted that Christie’s aide fired last week, deputy chief of staff Bridget Ann Kelly, was with Christie the day she sent the email saying it was “time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee.”. . .

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/highways-bridges-and-roads/195180-nj-rep-unbelievable-christie-wasnt
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:22:11 PM
Last Month, Christie Complained to Cuomo That His Appointee Was Pressing Too Hard for Answers


We saw the press conference today and Christie was just shocked...shocked I tell you, that his staff was capable of lying to him about their involvement in the GWB scandal. So why was he twisting Cuomo's arm last month in an effort to keep this story quiet? If you don't believe Christie is involved in this, I've got a bridge to....

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo this week to complain about a Cuomo appointee's handling of a growing controversy over traffic pattern changes on the George Washington Bridge, a person familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Christie, a Republican, complained in a private phone call to Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, that Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, was pressing too hard to get to the bottom of why the number of toll lanes onto the bridge from Fort Lee, N.J. was cut from three to one in early September, according to this person. The lane closures occurred without notice to local authorities, officials have said, and snarled traffic for a week in the small borough on the Hudson River bluffs.

Wall Street Journal
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:24:11 PM
15 Chris Christie Controversies You Missed

The GWB scandal wasn’t the governor’s first dip in hot water.
By OLIVIA NUZZI January 09, 2014

Democrats in New Jersey have been celebrating what you might call Chris Christiemas this week. When documents were released strongly suggesting that senior members of Governor Christie’s staff were behind the George Washington Bridge lane closures in Fort Lee, the Gov’s ideological opponents breathed a sigh of relief. Christie’s unrivaled political skill and, as Matt Katz outlined here in November, ability to drive a narrative of his choosing, have meant that until now, The Story of Chris Christie As Told By The National Media is one that Christie has largely written himself. As one New Jersey Democratic strategist told me, “the press had basically inaugurated him already.” But Christie’s political career has been riddled with controversies big and small, most of which have been paid little attention by those outside the Garden State. And while perhaps none of these kerfuffles placed anyone in imminent danger quite like Bridgegate did, at least a few of them might have spelled the end of another, less media savvy politician’s career.

1. Using inflated cost estimates to justifying canceling the ARC tunnel
Christie has caused traffic before. The Access to the Region’s Core tunnel was a commuter rail project that would have more than doubled the number of trains from New Jersey to Manhattan, easing congestion on the state’s notorious (especially now) highways. After initially endorsing the project, which could have created an estimated 45,000 permanent jobs and 6,000 temporary construction jobs, Christie changed his mind. He claimed that cost estimates for the tunnel had grown to as much as $14 billion. Except, they didn’t. The cost estimates for the project had remained unchanged in the two years before Christie cancelled it.

2. Lending nearly $50,000 to aide who helped his campaign
When Jon Corzine’s 2009 gubernatorial campaign requested public records from Christie’s time as prosecutor, we learned a lot about his lavish spending habits. We also learned about Christie’s generosity: He lent $46,000 to Michele Brown, a top aide in the prosecutor’s office. Christie denied that Brown had done anything to help his gubernatorial campaign, but she had—pushing for a series of high-profile arrests to be made before Christie left his post as U.S. attorney so that he would receive full credit on the campaign trail. Brown now serves as CEO of the Economic Development Authority in Christie’s administration.

3. Handing out a no-bid contract after Sandy
In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, Christie awarded a $150 million no-bid contract to AshBritt, a Florida-based firm. Just days after the deal was done, AshBritt donated $50,000 to the Republican Governors Association, of which Christie was then vice chairman.

4. A corrupt Christie ally let off the hook, inexplicably
When a county sheriff was accused of hiring deputies without background checks who then manufactured fake police badges for a “prominent donor to Gov. Chris Christie,” the indicted undersheriff wasn’t worried. He assured an aide that Christie would “have this whole thing thrown out.” Not long after that, the indictments were killed, by someone.

5. Taxpayer funded “town halls”
Chris Christie is sort of like the Kate Upton of politics, in that his rise to prominence can be partly attributed to his presence on YouTube. Many of Christie’s Greatest YouTube Hits are videos of him, uh, connecting with voters at his town halls, which more often seem to double as campaign events. The problem? The taxpayers are footing the bill, including more than $12,000 for flags, lighting and other equipment.

6. Reckless driving
In 2002, driving a rented BMW Sedan, U.S. Attorney Christie injured a motorcyclist when he tried to turn the wrong way onto a one-way street. He was not issued a traffic ticket, despite his less-than-stellar driving record, which includes at least six accidents and 13 moving violations.

7. Reckless spending on being driven
After taking the hint that driving is perhaps not his greatest skill, U.S. Attorney Christie took a limo roundtrip between Newark and Atlantic City. The cost? $700.

8. Taxpayer-funded helicopter rides
In 2011, Christie sailed down from the skies and onto a baseball field (where his son was about to play) in a State Police helicopter. The 55-foot chopper cost taxpayers $12.5 million. A spokesman for the Gov said it was to be used “occasionally … as the schedule demands.” What was on Christie’s schedule for that day? No public events. Just a private dinner with Iowa Republican donors.

9. Shoddy oversight of halfway houses where prisoners escaped, murdered
Crowded prisons strain state budgets, so some states, like New Jersey, try to cut costs by handing over inmates to privately run halfway houses. A great idea! … Unless prisoners begin to escape in droves, which they did. More than 1,000 prisoners escaped in Christie’s first 29 months in office. One of those escapees murdered a young woman. Also, the company that received the bulk of the halfway house money? Its senior vice president is Christie’s close friend and political adviser, William Palatucci.

10. Staying in Disney World during blizzard
As New Jersey attempted to shovel its way out of 31 inches of snow in December 2010, Christie remained on vacation in sunny Florida, leaving others to deal with the mess in his state. Christie’s lieutenant governor, Kim Guadagno, was away too—in Mexico—so New Jersey residents were pretty much on their own.

11. Starring in publicly funded tourism ads
In 2013, an election year for Christie, it was difficult to turn on a television without being confronted by “Stronger Than The Storm,” an ad featuring a maudlin jingle and the governor and his family. The 30-second spot highlighted Christie’s leadership in bringing his state together in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, and arguably served as his best campaign ad. Unfortunately, that spot and others like it were paid for using federal grant money from the $60 million Sandy relief package, and it later came out that in selecting the ad agency that wanted to feature his family, the Christie administration spent $2 million more than necessary.

12. Lavish hotel stays
U.S. Attorney Christie was known as the one “who most often exceeded the government rate without adequate justification” when traveling on the job. Out of 23 trips, he exceeded the rate 14 times by staying at places like the Four Seasons in Washington.

13. A payday of over $52 million for an old boss
As U.S. attorney, Christie settled a probe into kickbacks by knee and hip replacement manufacturers for a cool $311 million. Christie selected former Attorney General John Ashcroft, his old boss, to monitor the manufacturers, for which Ashcroft’s D.C.-based consulting firm received $52 million of the settlement.

14. Betting on a casino with public funds
Christie offered $261 million in tax incentives to Revel Casino in Atlantic City so the company could complete construction after Morgan Stanley abandoned the project. Two years later, Revel filed for bankruptcy.

15. Pulling a Daily Caller on Menendez before there was a Daily Caller
Long before The Daily Caller published bogus claims that United States Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) was paying for prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, U.S. Attorney Chris Christie was initiating (allegedly) bogus probes into Menendez. In 2006, Christie launched an investigation into Menendez over his involvement with a nonprofit community group he reportedly helped get federal grants. Nothing came of the investigation. So why did it happen? It couldn’t have had anything to do with the fact that Christie was on the chopping block, and he needed to save face with George W. Bush, the man who held his fate as U.S. attorney in his hands.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/15-chris-christie-controversies-you-missed-101999_Page2.html#ixzz2qF1Ufocw
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 06:29:10 PM
rightfully there should be an investigation and if you get proof let me know, until then quit making ignorant fucking assumptions and stating opinion as fact.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:41:21 PM
so still no proof for your ignorant opinions?

Christie Not Sure When He Learned of Bridge Lane Closures

New Jersey Governor Said He Didn't Remember Where He First Read About Traffic Problems

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has given two different timelines of when he learned of lane closures on the George Washington Bridge after they were imposed by his aides, allegedly for political reasons...It later emerged that Christie allies had engineered the closures, which caused massive traffic jams in Fort Lee, N.J., whose mayor didn't endorse Mr. Christie. The governor said he had no knowledge of his allies' involvement in the closures.

In a news conference Dec. 13, Mr. Christie, a Republican, said he learned of the controversy after the publication of an internal email from Patrick Foye, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Mr. Foye angrily ordered the access lanes for Fort Lee restored on Sept. 13, the fifth day of the closures. The Wall Street Journal published details of that email on Oct. 1.

"The first I ever heard of the issue was when it was reported in the press, which I think was in the aftermath of the leaking of Mr. Foye's email," Mr. Christie said at the December news conference...Last week, the governor indicated that he had learned of the issue earlier. "It wasn't when Pat Foye's emails—I think there was an earlier story than that," he said when asked at last week's televised, two-hour news conference why he hadn't tried to determine the reason for the Fort Lee gridlock when he first learned of it.

Mr. Christie said at last week's news conference that he didn't remember where he first read about the traffic problems.

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WSJ
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:49:48 PM
Krauthammer Thinks Christie Could Be 'Toast'

The potential political fallout from the George Washington Bridge scandal is really quite straightforward, according to conservative idol Charles Krauthammer.

"Well, look, I think this is not rocket science," Krauthammer declared Thursday on Fox News. "Christie is now hostage to the truth. If he told the truth and he had no knowledge of this, it will hurt him. If he didn't tell the truth — and we will know it for sure, one way or the other — if he did know about this, he's toast. It's rather simple."

Krauthammer, revered by Republicans and conservatives, said that Christie's professed ignorance to the lane closures on the bridge could still damage him — although not fatally.

“Christie’s strength is how tough he is, but it can become a negative if the toughness is a petty toughness,” he said.

more:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/krauthammer-christie-bridge-scandal-toast

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Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2014, 06:55:33 PM
rightfully there should be an investigation and if you get proof let me know, until then quit making ignorant fucking assumptions and stating opinion as fact.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: polychronopolous on January 12, 2014, 06:58:28 PM
Krauthammer Thinks Christie Could Be 'Toast'

The potential political fallout from the George Washington Bridge scandal is really quite straightforward, according to conservative idol Charles Krauthammer.

"Well, look, I think this is not rocket science," Krauthammer declared Thursday on Fox News. "Christie is now hostage to the truth. If he told the truth and he had no knowledge of this, it will hurt him. If he didn't tell the truth — and we will know it for sure, one way or the other — if he did know about this, he's toast. It's rather simple."

Krauthammer, revered by Republicans and conservatives, said that Christie's professed ignorance to the lane closures on the bridge could still damage him — although not fatally.

“Christie’s strength is how tough he is, but it can become a negative if the toughness is a petty toughness,” he said.

more:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/krauthammer-christie-bridge-scandal-toast

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This puts Cruz as the front runner with likely Paul and Walker behind him

Susana Martinez is still the ultimate dark horse IMO.

Could go anywhere from not even running in the primary to surprising alot of people.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 07:36:57 PM
Matinez uses guns for props.  Still too eager to please.  Give her 4-6 more years of being tough, and she'll stop caring what people think.  THAT is when she'll become effective.  We don't want candidates that are still scared, still eager to please, still fake smiles, still trying to impress.

Look at Clinton, Dubya, Hilary, Obama now, Jeb now, Rand/Ron Paul, Eliz warrens, you know the face - they don't give a flying fck what you think - they share their opinion and take it or leave it.  They don't NEED the job. 

Then you have the Paul Ryans, the Rubios, the Martinez' of the world.. scared to offend, and too eager to please.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 11:14:56 PM
MSNBC: 142 minutes --- CNN: 142 minutes --- Fox News: 14 minutes and 30 seconds.

How Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC Covered Chris Christie ‘Bridgegate’ on Wednesday
Full post with slideshow images, here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/how-fox-news-cnn-and-msnbc-covered-chris-christie-bridgegate-on-wednesday/#24
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 01:05:32 AM
MSNBC: 142 minutes --- CNN: 142 minutes --- Fox News: 14 minutes and 30 seconds.

How Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC Covered Chris Christie ‘Bridgegate’ on Wednesday
Full post with slideshow images, here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/how-fox-news-cnn-and-msnbc-covered-chris-christie-bridgegate-on-wednesday/#24

Run the same graph for the obama crimes.  ;)
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2014, 09:25:54 AM
Remember Rudy on MSNBC's Morning Joe, defending CHristie nonstop right after it happened.

now that the numerous "alterations to the current story" keep happening, it sounds like Rudy is distancing himself from Christie.  While it is hard for some people to swallow, it's turning out Christie really was misleading about quite a few things here.  And doing it on the anniversary of 9/11... that's gotta tick off Rudy...



Rudy Giuliani says Chris Christie’s political career could be over if he’s not telling the truth

Former New York City Mayor and one-time presidential contender Rudy Giuliani today said Christie has put his political career at risk if he's not telling the truth about the George Washington Bridge Scandal.

During an appearance on ABC's "This Week," Giuliani said he believed Christie when the governor said last week that he knew nothing of the lane closures at the George Washington Bridge until well after the fact, because otherwise, Christie's career could be done.

"If, for some reason, it's not true, the man has put his political career completely at risk if it turns out there is some evidence that he knew about it," Giuliani told ABC News. "He's taken the complete risk that his political career is over. I don't think he'd do that if there's any suggestion he knew about this."
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2014, 09:29:46 AM
Voters Shocked Christie Botched Such An Easy Political Cover-Up

WASHINGTON—Following revelations this week that staffers under New Jersey Governor Chris Christie manipulated traffic in a small New Jersey town to punish its mayor, mortified Americans across the nation reported that they were shocked to learn the potential 2016 presidential candidate could possibly fumble such an easy political cover-up. “Man, this guy wants to be President of the United States and he can’t even conceal an act of corruption this rinky-dink and run-of-the-mill from voters? It’s crazy,” Newark resident Carolyn Baum said in agreement with millions of stunned Americans, adding that she holds potential presidential candidates to much higher standards of subterfuge and graft. “I mean, this is a total softball. If he can’t even bully one little small-town mayor into submission by oppressing his constituents and get away with it, how can we reasonably believe he’s politically skilled enough to cover up national scandals like orchestrating a foreign war, illegally colluding with big business, or violating the civil liberties of millions of Americans? It’s a little scary, to be honest.” At press time, many Americans reported their faith in Christie’s presidential qualifications was somewhat restored after he released a series of statements pinning the blame on others and throwing top aides under the bus.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/voters-shocked-christie-botched-such-an-easy-polit,34909/
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 13, 2014, 09:55:58 AM
It really is kind of surprising how Christie has managed to make this look even worse for himself

My only guess is that he was completely involved (or at least informed) from the beginning which is why he first had to pretend that this allegation that the closure was political payback was absurd and stuck with that until that position became untenable and then was stuck with the false narrative of what he knew and when he knew it.

Nothing else makes sense given the way he has handled it
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 10:02:04 AM
I love how Obama cultists believe christies knows everything yet their messiah knows nothing at all about his scandals. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 13, 2014, 10:06:09 AM
I love how Obama cultists believe christies knows everything yet their messiah knows nothing at all about his scandals. 

all you have to do is look at the actual facts in any given circumstance

although as a debt collector/make believe lawyer I understand how that might confuse you
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 10:11:30 AM
LOL - so Obama is that detached from what goes on in the govt that makes it plausible and ok? 


Typical. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 13, 2014, 10:14:02 AM
LOL - so Obama is that detached from what goes on in the govt that makes it plausible and ok? 


Typical. 

again, you need to look at the actual facts in any given situation

I know that is tedious and boring when you just want to jump from the beginning all the way to the end and draw a conclusion (which coincidentally happens to the be same one every time)

You should spend your time focusing on the fact that Ayers and Obama are framing Christie and they will soon likely give him a massive heart attack
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 10:52:17 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/chris-christie-investigation_n_4588132.html#comments



bama / Christy - two pos
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2014, 11:32:42 AM
Voters Shocked Christie Botched Such An Easy Political Cover-Up

WASHINGTON—Following revelations this week that staffers under New Jersey Governor Chris Christie manipulated traffic in a small New Jersey town to punish its mayor, mortified Americans across the nation reported that they were shocked to learn the potential 2016 presidential candidate could possibly fumble such an easy political cover-up. “Man, this guy wants to be President of the United States and he can’t even conceal an act of corruption this rinky-dink and run-of-the-mill from voters? It’s crazy,” Newark resident Carolyn Baum said in agreement with millions of stunned Americans, adding that she holds potential presidential candidates to much higher standards of subterfuge and graft. “I mean, this is a total softball. If he can’t even bully one little small-town mayor into submission by oppressing his constituents and get away with it, how can we reasonably believe he’s politically skilled enough to cover up national scandals like orchestrating a foreign war, illegally colluding with big business, or violating the civil liberties of millions of Americans? It’s a little scary, to be honest.” At press time, many Americans reported their faith in Christie’s presidential qualifications was somewhat restored after he released a series of statements pinning the blame on others and throwing top aides under the bus.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/voters-shocked-christie-botched-such-an-easy-polit,34909/
You know the onion is a satirical site, right?
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 11:35:24 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/13/christie-office-obama-administration-approved-jersey-shore-tv-ads


 :o
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 01:12:28 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/federal-probe-of-chris-christie-s-tourism-ads-could-make-bridgegate-look-like-an-afterthought-20140113



Nice
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 01:27:22 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/14/nyregion/christie-cut-ties-with-mayor-after-being-denied-endorsement-documents-show.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&region=Footer&module=TopNews&pgtype=article



Mafia tactics just like o-twink and hitlery
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: OzmO on January 13, 2014, 01:35:55 PM

bama / Christy - two pos

This is why OB won
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 01:38:46 PM
This is why OB won

I said it during the Sandy nonsense.   Both were playing the public for fools
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: OzmO on January 13, 2014, 02:12:49 PM
I said it during the Sandy nonsense.   Both were playing the public for fools

Doesn't matter.

This is a big reason why OB and Obamacare wasn't stopped.  The Repubs splintered.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Skip8282 on January 13, 2014, 02:39:56 PM
You know the onion is a satirical site, right?


I know 240 knows, but it clearly threw Dumbfuck for a loop, LMFAO.

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Skip8282 on January 13, 2014, 02:43:38 PM
Doesn't matter.

This is a big reason why OB and Obamacare wasn't stopped.  The Repubs splintered.



I've been wondering myself.  Is it splintered or more integrity?

When Obama doesn't know shit going on in his Admin, all the Dems and media rally around to protect him, demanding evidence that it be proven Obama was in the know.

Now, with no evidence that Christie was in the know (at least not yet), they're all up in arms.

Should Repubs be taking a strategy lesson?

Or doing the right thing and telling Christie he should stand down knowing that it will benefit the Dems?

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 02:44:23 PM
Sort of an admission by Obama cultists how clueless he is no? 



I've been wondering myself.  Is it splintered or more integrity?

When Obama doesn't know shit going on in his Admin, all the Dems and media rally around to protect him, demanding evidence that it be proven Obama was in the know.

Now, with no evidence that Christie was in the know (at least not yet), they're all up in arms.

Should Repubs be taking a strategy lesson?

Or doing the right thing and telling Christie he should stand down knowing that it will benefit the Dems?


Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Straw Man on January 13, 2014, 03:38:38 PM

I know 240 knows, but it clearly threw Dumbfuck for a loop, LMFAO.



Hmm, I wonder who you're referring to

I know it can't be me because I didn't even reply to 240's post so tell us who you are referring to as Dumbfuck
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: OzmO on January 13, 2014, 04:09:25 PM


I've been wondering myself.  Is it splintered or more integrity?

When Obama doesn't know shit going on in his Admin, all the Dems and media rally around to protect him, demanding evidence that it be proven Obama was in the know.

Now, with no evidence that Christie was in the know (at least not yet), they're all up in arms.

Should Repubs be taking a strategy lesson?

Or doing the right thing and telling Christie he should stand down knowing that it will benefit the Dems?



No that's not what i am saying.

3333 said, OB and Christie both POS.  I agree they probably are, at least OB for sure.  The repubs have splintered in that we have ultra conservatives distancing themselves from moderate repubs.  While that may be the valid thing to do to preserve the integrity of conservative ideals it doesn't it doesn't play out well in elections.  I see that when repubs lose more and more elections because they back borderline unelectable peeps and then pounce on peeps like Christie its spells out more dem victories which brings us to what we have now......  REpubs who didn't vote for the ACA and it not mattering at all because there was enough repubs elected to make a difference.    So you have these angry peeps like 3333, who do nothing to stem the liberal tide, if maybe actually, helping it, by attacking electable repub candidates, while acting like others need to get a clue...LANDSLIDE!
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Skip8282 on January 13, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
No that's not what i am saying.

3333 said, OB and Christie both POS.  I agree they probably are, at least OB for sure.  The repubs have splintered in that we have ultra conservatives distancing themselves from moderate repubs.  While that may be the valid thing to do to preserve the integrity of conservative ideals it doesn't it doesn't play out well in elections.  I see that when repubs lose more and more elections because they back borderline unelectable peeps and then pounce on peeps like Christie its spells out more dem victories which brings us to what we have now......  REpubs who didn't vote for the ACA and it not mattering at all because there was enough repubs elected to make a difference.    So you have these angry peeps like 3333, who do nothing to stem the liberal tide, if maybe actually, helping it, by attacking electable repub candidates, while acting like others need to get a clue...LANDSLIDE!



Not likely.  If you put the standard GB banter aside, you would be very hard pressed to back your claim that Repubs are losing more and more elections.

Right now, there are more Republican governors than Democrat and Republicans have solid control of the House.  In the Senate, there are about 45 or so (I would have to check).

Also, not sure if you follow PolicyMic, but they noted that the 6th year of a 2 term President always sees the President's party losing Senate seats, every year save one.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/71679/midterm-elections-2014-polls-show-republicans-could-take-over-the-senate

It will be interesting to see what happens.

Keep in mind, Bill Clinton left office with an exceptionally high approval rating and the Democrats still couldn't pull off a slam-dunk election.  I understand the whole 'stolen election' issue, but none of that would have mattered if Gore was so far in front of Bush as to render it irrelevant.

I think you can make a solid case about splintering within the Republican Party, I'm just not convinced that that leads to lost elections.  It would be nice if both Dems and Repubs could lose elections and we could get some fresh 3rd party blood in there!
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-republicans-shouldn%E2%80%99t-defend-christie-he-and-obama-are-%E2%80%98two-peas-in-a-pod%E2%80%99


I agree - Obama / Christie are two peas in a pod
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Dos Equis on January 13, 2014, 05:51:27 PM


Not likely.  If you put the standard GB banter aside, you would be very hard pressed to back your claim that Repubs are losing more and more elections.

Right now, there are more Republican governors than Democrat and Republicans have solid control of the House.  In the Senate, there are about 45 or so (I would have to check).

Also, not sure if you follow PolicyMic, but they noted that the 6th year of a 2 term President always sees the President's party losing Senate seats, every year save one.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/71679/midterm-elections-2014-polls-show-republicans-could-take-over-the-senate

It will be interesting to see what happens.

Keep in mind, Bill Clinton left office with an exceptionally high approval rating and the Democrats still couldn't pull off a slam-dunk election.  I understand the whole 'stolen election' issue, but none of that would have mattered if Gore was so far in front of Bush as to render it irrelevant.

I think you can make a solid case about splintering within the Republican Party, I'm just not convinced that that leads to lost elections.  It would be nice if both Dems and Repubs could lose elections and we could get some fresh 3rd party blood in there!

Good points.  And they control a majority of state legislatures. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2014, 08:13:08 PM
Yes, I'm well aware Onion is satire.  I post often from them, and usually embed the link so the believably goes on for 15 seconds instead of 2.  Most people skim and see that link first, and there isn't that "ah-ha" moment while reading where you realize it's designed to make one laugh/think.   
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2014, 08:16:06 PM
I don't trust Christie on bit.   He tossed Romney right under the bus based on utter bs from Obama who was runnibg for re-election.  Who the F does that?   A typical politician, Christie is a liar and tossed Mitt right into the soup to advance Obama ad his own fortunes. 


Personally - I am enjoying Christie getting skewered by the leftist media he sought to suck up to
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: blacken700 on January 14, 2014, 07:20:39 AM
Source: The Huffington Post 01/13/2014 7:03 pm EST

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) has seen little change in his national favorability ratings since emails were released last week showing that his staff had intentionally caused a massive traffic snarl in a New Jersey town as a form of political payback, according to a Huffington Post/YouGov poll. According to the new poll, 38 percent of Americans now have a favorable view of the New Jersey governor, while 34 percent have an unfavorable view. Another 28 percent said they aren't sure.

Those figures are virtually unchanged compared to other surveys conducted over the course of the last month. A YouGov/Economist poll conducted Jan. 4-6 found Christie's favorable rating at 41 percent, as did another YouGov/Economist poll conducted in late December. A mid-December YouGov/Economist poll, which specifically identified Christie in a list of potential Republican candidates for president, found his national favorable rating at 36 percent. Indeed, a Pew Research Center poll released earlier Monday found that 60 percent of Americans said their view of Christie was unchanged in the last few days. Sixteen percent said their opinion of Christie was less favorable, while 6 percent said it was more favorable. Even among those who were following the bridge scandal "very" or "somewhat" closely, 57 percent said their opinion was unchanged.

The HuffPost/YouGov and Pew surveys together show that many Americans have heard about the bridge scandal, but relatively few are following it closely. In the HuffPost/YouGov poll, 43 percent said they had heard a lot about "a controversy involving Chris Christie and traffic on a major bridge between New Jersey and New York," while 35 percent said they had heard a little and 23 percent said they had heard nothing at all. In the Pew survey, however, only 18 percent said they were following the story very closely, while another 21 percent were following it fairly closely, 19 percent were following it not too closely, and 41 percent weren't following it closely at all.


The HuffPost/YouGov poll also found a division over whether Christie was telling the truth when he denied knowing about his staff's involvement in causing the massive traffic jam. Twenty-six percent said he was telling the truth, 25 percent said he was lying, and 49 percent said they weren't sure




Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/chris-christie-bridge-poll_n_4591511.html
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2014, 07:34:13 AM
it'll be another week before his numbers drop.   It never happens in one week.  It takes 2.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2014, 07:34:35 AM
He and Obama are clones of each other. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2014, 12:07:31 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2014/01/14/christie-official-who-arranged-bridge-closures-together-during-fiasco




 :o
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2014, 08:30:47 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2014/01/14/christie-official-who-arranged-bridge-closures-together-during-fiasco
 :o

I can't believe some people still believe Christie.  That he was surrounded by the people committing this terrible act, 4 or 5 or 6 of them all conspiring, and he had no idea. 

And, they're okay with his completely lack of control.  Geez, imagine when he's president, with so much more on his plate... will his Sec of Defense start wars without him knowing?  Will his sec of energy just build nuclear plants without him knowing? 

Christie will start to sag in polls by this weekend.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2014, 08:37:25 PM
I can't believe some people still believe Christie.  That he was surrounded by the people committing this terrible act, 4 or 5 or 6 of them all conspiring, and he had no idea. 

And, they're okay with his completely lack of control.  Geez, imagine when he's president, with so much more on his plate... will his Sec of Defense start wars without him knowing?  Will his sec of energy just build nuclear plants without him knowing? 

Christie will start to sag in polls by this weekend.


I drink no ones kool aide
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2014, 08:46:26 PM

I drink no ones kool aide

What do you think of people that keep saying "You can't PROVE Christie knew!"?   Are they lying to themselves?
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
What do you think of people that keep saying "You can't PROVE Christie knew!"?   Are they lying to themselves?

Engaging in the same bs as the Obama cultists 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 24KT on January 15, 2014, 01:07:18 AM
This thread isn't complete without an appropriate graphic...  :D
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: blacken700 on January 15, 2014, 06:23:16 AM
 :D :D :D


Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 16, 2014, 12:03:19 AM
Maddow's face might be annoying as can be... but wow she assembles a good case. 



A growing paper trail continues to implicate New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) with regards to the September 2013 lane closures on the George Washington Bridge, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said on Tuesday. “The governor has absolutely and blatantly not told the truth about what was going on in his office,” Maddow said. Maddow said that Christie’s argument that his administration was unaware of the four-day closures, which were ordered by his deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, was undermined by an email Kelly received on Sept. 11 from state director of departmental relations Christine Genovese Renna. Renna mentions in the email that “Evan” — possibly meaning Christie aide Evan J. Ridley, who records show makes $52,000 a year — had been contacted by Mark Sokolich, mayor of Fort Lee, complaining about the traffic nightmare happening in his town as a result.



Sokolich also mentioned at the time that there was sentiment among his constituents that it was politically-motivated. (Sokolich later said he believed Christie when the governor told him that was not the case.) “That means that during the shutdown, three people who work in the governor’s office are emailing about the ongoing bridge lane shutdown and the disaster that it’s causing and the allegation that it is politically motivated,” Maddow said. “There’s no discussion whatsoever about there being some traffic study, which the governor says was the prevailing belief about what was happening with that bridge.” Maddow also pointed out that Renna snidely refers to Sokolich as “the fine Mayor” in the email, and does not appear to need to explain to Kelly who he is.



“The governor’s top staff were discussing the shutdown — the effect of it, the allegations of political retribution, and the mayor of Fort Lee in provocative terms while the shutdown was still happening,” Maddow explained. “Despite Governor Christie’s denials, it seems like something was going on between the governor’s office and that specific mayor, that specific man. And lots of people who work for Governor Christie and who work in the governor’s office and the governor’s inner circle were in discussions about that shutdown while it was happening.”



Besides those three, Maddow continued, Christie’s incoming chief of staff, Regina Egea, was contacted by state Port Authority Executive Director Patrick Foye regarding the possibly illegal shutdown; his campaign manager, Bill Stepien, was quoted as calling Sokolich “an idiot” in another email; his spokesperson, Michael Druniak, was alerted by David Wildstein and Bill Baroni — both Christie appointees — when the press began asking questions about the shutdowns; and despite Christie’s claim that he “could count on one hand” the number of coversations he has had with Wildstein, pictures have surfaced showing the two of them together on Sept. 11.




cont'


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/14/rachel-maddow-chris-christie-lied-about-his-staffs-knowledge-of-bridge-closures/
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: macos on January 16, 2014, 12:16:11 AM
This thread isn't complete without an appropriate graphic...  :D
;D
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 23, 2014, 03:36:13 PM
States are one thing... but we're talking federally fccked now.  You dont fck with the federal govt.  you admit you screwed up, you take the hit.  They win cases.



Federal subpoenas fly in Bridgegate

The U.S. attorney’s office in New Jersey has subpoenaed Gov. Chris Christie’s reelection campaign and the state Republican party for documents related to the George Washington Bridge lane closure scandal, a lawyer for the two groups confirmed Thursday.
The subpoenas indicate the growing seriousness of the controversy for Christie, a potential 2016 GOP presidential contender who has seen his poll numbers sink as the lane closures and subsequent allegations of political retribution have gained public attention.

Both the campaign and the state party “intend to cooperate” with the U.S. attorney and a separate state legislative panel investigating what’s been dubbed “Bridgegate,” said lawyer Mark Sheridan of the high-powered firm Patton Boggs.
(Earlier on POLITICO: Christie's allies cry 'Partisan!')
NJ.com first reported the issuing of the federal subpoenas. Rebekah Carmichael, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman, said in an email that the office “can neither confirm nor deny specific investigative actions.”
The state legislative panel subpoenaed Christie’s campaign and his gubernatorial office for documents earlier this month. It also has sent subpoenas for documents to campaign manager Bill Stepien, fundraiser Nicole Davidman Drewniak and regional political director Matt Mowers, along with 15 other current or former officials in Christie’s office and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the agency that controls the bridge.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/chris-christie-campaign-subpoena-102522.html#ixzz2rGfEr5EA
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/chris-christie-campaign-subpoena-102522.html#ixzz2rGf2pLUp
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 25, 2014, 11:25:16 PM
Christie biggest Sandy contractor fired Won contract after donating $1.7M to reelection bid

Christie biggest Sandy contractor fired Won contract after donating $1.7M to reelection bid: http://t.co/QlsxstSB7q #Maddow #SteveKornacki


Christie's Biggest Sandy Contractor Fired
Company Also Made Donation to Group Run by Christie

Thursday, January 23, 2014
WNYC
By Matt Katz : New Jersey Public Radio

Sandy recovery has been the signature achievement of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, yet WNYC has learned his administration quietly terminated its contract with its biggest contractor in charge of getting Sandy victims back in their homes.

The company won its contract last May shortly after its law firm made a $25,000 donation to the Republican Governors Association, which is now headed by Christie and contributed $1.7 million to his re-election campaign. According to the Wall Street Journal, the contractor's law firm is a based in New Jersey and politically connected.

HGI was being paid $68 million in fees to administer a $780 million program. Its performance was widely criticized at legislative hearings in Trenton over the last several months for being inefficient and unhelpful, and for losing paperwork. The contract was terminated in December, and took effect on Monday, but that had not been publicly announced. Documents indicating the arrangement were found on a state web site. The company is to be paid $10.5 million as an "unpaid balance" — and for work performing during a "transition period" following termination.

HGI was also criticized for how it implemented its home reconstruction program in Louisiana after Katrina, according to the Wall Street Journal. Company officials have said they were improving operations.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: alabama ftw on January 26, 2014, 12:39:35 AM
Just ignore 240´s liberal lies. Its just propaganda by the leftwing media. Christie is a commie so I dont care.

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 28, 2014, 07:31:08 AM
it'll be another week before his numbers drop.   It never happens in one week.  It takes 2.

Christie's National Poll Numbers Plummet


Source: TPM

Americans have taken a decidedly more negative view toward Chris Christie, according to a poll out Tuesday, a sign that the New Jersey governor's once-solid national profile has been damaged by the scandals surrounding his administration.

To be sure, the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll showed that there are still plenty of Americans who don't have an opinion of Christie. But among those who do, the Republican governor's individual rating has taken a dip.

Only 22 percent said they have a positive view of Christie, down 11 points from the NBC/WSJ poll in October. Moreover, his negative rating has climbed from 17 percent in October to 29 percent in the latest survey.

The reversal to Christie's standing dovetails with a rise in public skepticism toward his denials that he ordered or knew about the lane closures on the George Washington Bridge last summer. Forty-four percent now say that Christie is not telling the truth, while 42 percent say they buy his story. An NBC/WSJ poll earlier this month showed that 44 percent believed Christie, compared with only 33 percent who didn't think he was telling the truth.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 31, 2014, 01:02:06 PM

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BREAKING NEWS Friday, January 31, 2014 3:42 PM EST
 



Christie Knew About Lane Closings as They Happened, Ex-Ally Says
The Port Authority official who personally oversaw the lane closings on the George Washington Bridge in the scandal now swirling around Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey said on Friday that the governor knew about the lane closings when they were happening, and that he had the evidence to prove it.
In a letter released by his lawyer, the official, David Wildstein, a high school friend of Mr. Christie’s who was appointed with the governor’s blessing at the Port Authority, which controls the bridge, described the order to close the lanes as “the Christie administration’s order” and said “evidence exists as well tying Mr. Christie to having knowledge of the lane closures, during the period when the lanes were closed, contrary to what the Governor stated publicly in a two-hour press conference” three weeks ago.
“Mr. Wildstein contests the accuracy of various statements that the Governor made about him and he can prove the inaccuracy of some,” the letter added.
The letter marked the first signal that Mr. Christie was aware of the closings, something he repeatedly denied during a two-hour press conference earlier this month.
In early January, documents revealed that a deputy chief of staff to Mr. Christie, Bridget Anne Kelly, had sent an email to Mr. Wildstein saying, “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee,” the town at the New Jersey end of the bridge, where Mr. Christie’s aides had pursued but failed to receive an endorsement from the mayor.
Mr. Christie has steadfastly denied that he knew before this month that anyone in his administration was responsible for the lane closings, and his administration has tried to portray it as the actions of a rogue staff member.

READ MORE »
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/nyregion/christie-bridge.html?emc=edit_na_20140131
 
 
 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 31, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/01/attorney_for_david_wildstein_asks_port_authority_to_reconsider_paying_legal_bills.html#incart_maj-story-2


Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 31, 2014, 03:09:31 PM
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/01/attorney_for_david_wildstein_asks_port_authority_to_reconsider_paying_legal_bills.html#incart_maj-story-2


Oh man - he is getting killed on this.


congrats for hugging Obama Christy - you earned it
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: tonymctones on January 31, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
if true he is fucked and rightfully so
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: AD2100 on January 31, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
typical ghetto, mafioso, thug trash

Give them power and they become another fascist like Mussolini. :-X
















:D :D :D
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 31, 2014, 07:49:46 PM
Yep, he knew.  And Wildstein's emails are going to prove it.  Already, we have the word of the guy that went to high school with Christie, climbed the ranks with him... and he's now saying christie knew in real-time.

And he claims to have evidence.  They'll give him immunity, he'll spill the Gmail proving it, and VOILA, the ONE thing Christie had going for him - that he's a straight shooter - will be gone. 

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/chris-chris-new-jersey-george-washington-bridge-scandal-david-wildstein-102977.html?hp=t1
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 31, 2014, 08:00:36 PM
Yep, he knew.  And Wildstein's emails are going to prove it.  Already, we have the word of the guy that went to high school with Christie, climbed the ranks with him... and he's now saying christie knew in real-time.

And he claims to have evidence.  They'll give him immunity, he'll spill the Gmail proving it, and VOILA, the ONE thing Christie had going for him - that he's a straight shooter - will be gone. 

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/chris-chris-new-jersey-george-washington-bridge-scandal-david-wildstein-102977.html?hp=t1


He has only himself to blame
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on January 31, 2014, 09:38:21 PM
He has only himself to blame

so ya think it'll be just a few days til we are hearing a heartfelt apology from Christie?

or continued denials... "Oh, he SENT that email and I never read it.  Someone else responded FOR ME".   LOL!
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: AD2100 on February 01, 2014, 08:40:46 AM

He has only himself to blame
Yes, he has only himself to blame for being a fascist, ghetto, thug, welfare trash who likes to throw his weight around. F Krispy.


It is only a matter of time before the wife leaves Krispy and he is left collecting nickels for donuts in front of the local 7-11 in Newark.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2014, 08:42:35 AM
Yes, he has only himself to blame for being a fascist, ghetto, thug, welfare trash who likes to throw his weight around. F Krispy.


It is only a matter of time before the wife leaves Krispy and he is left collecting nickels for donuts in front of the local 7-11 in Newark.

True story.   Agreed 100 percent


I have sat at that bridge endless times.  FNG w people like this to get back at another pol? 

F THAT!!! 


BTW - high Benny! 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on February 01, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/01/christie-booed-super-bowl_n_4709527.html

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was booed as he took the stage at the Super Bowl handoff ceremony in Times Square on Saturday.

As if it weren't enough that his former ally, ex-Port Authority Official David Wildstein, is saying that there is evidence Christie knew about the George Washington Bridge lane closings that caused a monstrous days-long traffic jam in Fort Lee -- now he's getting booed in public, too.

The crowd jeered as Christie took the podium to "hand off" the Super Bowl to Arizona, the host of next year's big game:
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 02, 2014, 05:32:34 AM
Once he helped obama - i knew all i needed to know about him
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on February 02, 2014, 06:07:25 PM
Christie attacks the MEDIA, and attacks the ACCUSER....

but never denies the charge ;)



Exclusive: Chris Christie attacks N.Y. Times, David Wildstein


Source: Politico

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), after a low-key initial response to Friday’s explosive allegations about his bridge-closing involvement, mounted a pugilistic defense late Saturday afternoon, attacking The New York Times and a former political ally in an email to friends and allies obtained by POLITICO.

“Bottom line - David Wildstein will do and say anything to save David Wildstein,” the email from the governor’s office says, referring to the former appointee who reignited the controversy. A letter from Wildstein’s lawyer on Friday asserted that “evidence exists … tying Mr. Christie to having knowledge of the lane closures, during the period when the lanes were closed, contrary to what the Governor stated publicly in a two-hour press conference.”

The subject line of the 700-word email from the governor’s office is: “5 Things You Should Know About The Bombshell That’s Not A Bombshell.”

The Christie camp begins by criticizing The Times for its initial characterization of the Wildstein letter: “A media firestorm was set off by sloppy reporting from the New York Times and their suggestion that there was actually ‘evidence’ when it was a letter alleging that ‘evidence exists.". . .

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/chris-christie-new-york-times-david-wildstein-102987.html
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2014, 04:15:17 AM
WOW...

Christie lied about a few things during that 2-hour marathon press conference.

He lied about them being high school friends.  He lied about when he knew.  And there may be more, according to the indicators.  All the statements he made during that press conference - a lot of the may bite him now.

And another employee (the one that reported directly to bridget) just quit on Friday, and many think it's because she has a story to tell about it.

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2014, 05:14:03 AM
He lied about Obama doing a great job to get $$$$ from Sandy relief and many of us said so at the time.

He is a fraud and liar just like Obama - no different 

WOW...

Christie lied about a few things during that 2-hour marathon press conference.

He lied about them being high school friends.  He lied about when he knew.  And there may be more, according to the indicators.  All the statements he made during that press conference - a lot of the may bite him now.

And another employee (the one that reported directly to bridget) just quit on Friday, and many think it's because she has a story to tell about it.


Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2014, 01:22:49 PM
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/02/03/one-of-gov-christies-bodyguards-charged-with-shoplifting-in-pennsylvania



 :o
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Option D on February 03, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
BFD....This isnt a fucking scandal...i hate the news...i hate TV...i hate the world...
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2014, 01:41:15 PM
BFD....This isnt a fucking scandal...i hate the news...i hate TV...i hate the world...

Yes it is a scandal.  For 4 days - millions of people were fucked over
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Option D on February 03, 2014, 03:10:47 PM
Yes it is a scandal.  For 4 days - millions of people were fucked over

shut up homo. same shit happens on the 405 every day.
quit being a bipartisan puto cry baby
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2014, 03:13:04 PM
shut up homo. same shit happens on the 405 every day.
quit being a bipartisan puto cry baby

 ::)
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Option D on February 03, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
::)
seriously...you sound hella soft...

dude its traffic...
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
seriously...you sound hella soft...

dude its traffic...

one lady died in an ambulance stuck in traffic during the traffic jam.   maybe she makes it, maybe not... but i'm sure the "hours long back up" didn't help her chances.

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2014, 07:41:39 PM
one lady died in an ambulance stuck in traffic during the traffic jam.   maybe she makes it, maybe not... but i'm sure the "hours long back up" didn't help her chances.



Thousands of truck drivers, hundreds of thousands of commuters, etc all tied up for hours due to this bullshit. 

F that!!!! 

People need to pay for this! 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on February 04, 2014, 11:17:34 AM
"The Closer"  lol...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-february-3-2014/the-closer?xrs=synd_facebook_020414_tds_37

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: AD2100 on February 04, 2014, 12:27:47 PM
shut up homo. same shit happens on the 405 every day.
quit being a bipartisan puto cry baby

The "405" isn't the busiest bridge IN THE WORLD in the most densely populated area in America, our chubby friend. ::)


Christie: Wildestein's HS Social Studies teacher called him "deceptive" [35 years ago].
Christie: "I was class president and a star athlete in HS. I am not sure what David was doing."

Keep it classy, big guy! ::)

Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on February 04, 2014, 02:09:55 PM
The "405" isn't the busiest bridge IN THE WORLD in the most densely populated area in America, our chubby friend. ::)


Christie: Wildestein's HS Social Studies teacher called him "deceptive" [35 years ago].
Christie: "I was class president and a star athlete in HS. I am not sure what David was doing."

Keep it classy, big guy! ::)



he's attacking the messenger.  He never denies the existence of evidence, just that "Hey, screw the media, screw this guy, he's a punk and I was popular".

Ya know, at some point, a pic will emerge of these two, buddy buddy.  Then we'll hear "Oh, I forgot about that one time".  Then another 5 pics in 5 locations.  I mean, he CREATED the position exactly for this guy he happened to go to high school with, and he'd never heard of him?   I'm sure something will emerge of them sharing a chocolate shake at prom or something, and repubs will say "oh, that doesnt prove anything!  lol

At some point, I can't help but think we'll finally get that heartfelt Christie press conference where all the Repubs are suddenly on his nutsack again. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Option D on February 04, 2014, 02:20:38 PM
The "405" isn't the busiest bridge IN THE WORLD in the most densely populated area in America, our chubby friend. ::)


Christie: Wildestein's HS Social Studies teacher called him "deceptive" [35 years ago].
Christie: "I was class president and a star athlete in HS. I am not sure what David was doing."

Keep it classy, big guy! ::)


TOUCHY TOUCHY. Im just fucking with 3333 cuz hes a punk beeyoch.
If The Sumo-Governor orderded this...its an extreme abuse of power.. 
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 04, 2014, 02:58:30 PM
TOUCHY TOUCHY. Im just fucking with 3333 cuz hes a punk beeyoch.
If The Sumo-Governor orderded this...its an extreme abuse of power.. 

Hey now - Christie might weigh less than you right now.   ;)
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Option D on February 04, 2014, 03:11:04 PM
Hey now - Christie might weigh less than you right now.   ;)

Cantopenwaterbottle says What?
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on February 19, 2014, 05:27:12 AM
So.... the top cop on the scene, coordinating the closings via text messages in realtime with Wildstein... just happened to be longtime Chrstie family friend, all the way down to little league coaching.

Does anyone still believe Christie knew nothing, and that these super-loyal people he had known for decades all suddenly simultaneously chose to act without his knowledge? 



Report: Another Christie Ally At GW Bridge For Lane Closures


Report: Another Christie Ally At GW Bridge For Lane Closures

A Port Authority police officer who grew up with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was at the George Washington Bridge to witness the lane closings, and was in communication with David Wildstein, a port authority official who has also been tied to the scandal, according to MSNBC.

Lieutenant Thomas "Chip" Michaels sent text messages to Wildstein updating him about the lane closures and their impact on the town of Fort Lee, according to documents submitted to the New Jersey legislative committee by Wildstein and reviewed by Brian Murphy and Steve Kornacki for MSNBC.

While at the bridge, Michaels sent Wildstein a text message to tell him he had an idea to "make this better," according to MSNBC.

Documents submitted to the legislative committee show that Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich complained to the Port Authority that its police officers told commuters that the lane closures were the result of a decision made by Sokolich. The documents do not show whether Chip Michaels was one of those police officers, according to MSNBC.

Michaels grew up in Livingston, N.J. with Christie and has coached Christie's son in little league hockey, according to MSNBC. And Michaels' brother, Jeffrey Michaels, is a powerful GOP lobbyist in the state and has donated to pro-Christie groups.

- more -

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/christie-ally-lane-closures
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2014, 11:47:20 PM
How much more smoking could this gun be?  lol



Christie Aide Kelly Sent Second ‘Traffic Problems’ Text
(Bloomberg) In the days before the manufactured ties-ups at the George Washington Bridge, a former deputy chief of staff to New Jersey Governor Chris Christie sent a second text message about causing “traffic problems” elsewhere, according to newly released documents.

Bridget Anne Kelly wrote Aug. 19 to another Christie ally, David Wildstein, saying: “We cannot cause traffic problems in front of his house, can we?”




Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-27/christie-aide-kelly-sent-second-traffic-problems-text-1-.html
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2014, 10:25:28 PM
Oops!Christie Port Authority appointees kept campaign manager informed on fallout from GWB


lane closures
http://www.guy-informed-on-fallout-from-gwb-lane-closures-1.744676
<snip>
Governor Christie’s top Port Authority appointees were keeping his campaign manager informed about the fallout from the lane closures from their earliest stages, according to documents released today by the George Washington Bridge investigative committee.

The Port Authority executives each forwarded campaign manager Bill Stepien an email on Sept. 12 – the third day of the closures, which caused huge traffic jams in Fort Lee -- from the borough’s mayor, who complained that the closures endangered the public.

In the letter from Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, the Democrat complains that he is “reaching the conclusion that there are punitive overtones associated with this initiative.”

Baroni forwarded the letter to Stepien, along with the note, “Following up.” The campaign manager replied, “Thanks.” Wildstien also forwarded the letter to Stepien. All three men used their personal, rather than official, email accounts. No further discussion is contained in the documents.
Title: Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2014, 04:39:15 AM
Christie is a liar



Oops!Christie Port Authority appointees kept campaign manager informed on fallout from GWB


lane closures
http://www.guy-informed-on-fallout-from-gwb-lane-closures-1.744676
<snip>
Governor Christie’s top Port Authority appointees were keeping his campaign manager informed about the fallout from the lane closures from their earliest stages, according to documents released today by the George Washington Bridge investigative committee.

The Port Authority executives each forwarded campaign manager Bill Stepien an email on Sept. 12 – the third day of the closures, which caused huge traffic jams in Fort Lee -- from the borough’s mayor, who complained that the closures endangered the public.

In the letter from Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, the Democrat complains that he is “reaching the conclusion that there are punitive overtones associated with this initiative.”

Baroni forwarded the letter to Stepien, along with the note, “Following up.” The campaign manager replied, “Thanks.” Wildstien also forwarded the letter to Stepien. All three men used their personal, rather than official, email accounts. No further discussion is contained in the documents.
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Post by: 240 is Back on December 08, 2014, 10:04:29 PM
Christie, Aide Texted As Bridgegate Cover Story Unraveled


Source: WNYC, New Jersey Public Radio

A year ago, a New Jersey legislative committee held a hearing that blew the lid off official explanations of four days of traffic jams at the George Washington Bridge. It would be another month before the cause of the lane closures was traced back to an email from Gov. Chris Christie’s deputy chief of staff. And the governor still maintains he didn’t pay much attention to the controversy until he found out he was lied to by Deputy Chief of Staff Bridget Ann Kelly.

But newly disclosed phone records - supplied by AT&T to the New Jersey legislature and obtained by WNYC - show that Christie's current Chief of Staff, Regina Egea, communicated by cell phone with Gov. Christie 12 times during that hearing on December 9, 2013. The Governor initiated the contact, about 30 minutes into the testimony, and sent a total of three texts to the aide. Egea replied nine times before the testimony concluded. The records show only one other text from Egea to Christie that month, on Christmas Day.

A timeline of the testimony, created by WNYC based on recordings of the hearing and tweets sent that day, shows that around the time of the text messages, witnesses delivered some of their sharpest blows to the Christie administration’s version of the Bridgegate events.

The new evidence contrasts with a report the governor's legal team issued last March, which did not reveal any texts about the lane closures sent from Christie to anyone from September 2013, when the Fort Lee traffic tie-ups occurred, through January. And it contradicts the sworn testimony of Egea that there was only one text from her to Christie that day.

Read more: http://www.wnyc.org/story/christie-aide-exchanged-messages-their-cover-story-unravelled/