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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2014, 06:17:36 PM »
1) I have called benghazi a huge deal, and believe that obama should be impeached for it.  However, with all the complaining, I've yet to see the articles for impeachment arrive.

2) This is a big deal  Put this aide under oath and ask her if she did it on her own, or if the gov of a US state is now issuing commands like this. 

It's not partisan.   It's just common sense investigation.  Charge her with involntary manslaughter and watch how fast she delivers her personal email account with orders from one of christie's right hand men or something. 

Dudes, seriously, please don't say this doesn't warrant an investigation because Benghazi wasn't investigated.  two wrongs don't make a right.  That kind of shitty logic allows dems to let hilary get away with something in 2017 because "remember what christie did, that was never investigated!"

For real... investigate benghazi and investigate this too.  Period.  People died - put people under oath and ask them who did what.  It's what they'd do at the LOCAL level if some jerk stopped his car in the intersection and someone got killed.  This is the same thing - her actions created intentional gridlock.  Put her under oath.

feel free to explain on what grounds

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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2014, 06:23:54 PM »
feel free to explain on what grounds

i believe obama watched it happen, and refused to let us intervene cause he didn't want 120 bad guys splattered, leading to an international incident and Qs about what exactly was going on there.  And of course, repubs screaming all the while about the shady things happening there.   He thought 4 dead workers was an acceptable loss.  Then he' the victim, and not the dude opening up cans of illegal shit on foreign soil. 

i also believe putting ppl under oath would get us to the answers quickly.

I believe it'll never happen.  Repubs talk about it, but just like fast & furious, don't have the balls to open some real investigations and put some people under oath and in handcuffs.

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2014, 06:40:31 PM »
i believe obama watched it happen, and refused to let us intervene cause he didn't want 120 bad guys splattered, leading to an international incident and Qs about what exactly was going on there.  And of course, repubs screaming all the while about the shady things happening there.   He thought 4 dead workers was an acceptable loss.  Then he' the victim, and not the dude opening up cans of illegal shit on foreign soil. 

i also believe putting ppl under oath would get us to the answers quickly.

I believe it'll never happen.  Repubs talk about it, but just like fast & furious, don't have the balls to open some real investigations and put some people under oath and in handcuffs.

why would Obama care about 120 bad guys "splattered" if they are attacking one of our facilities

why would that be bad press for him when he doesn't seem to have any problems with collateral damage from drone strikes ??

Sheesh man, I assume you're aware that the POTUS can't be impeached based on your imagination of what happened

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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2014, 09:06:15 PM »
how exactly do private gmail emails get released to the news???  ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2014, 11:48:35 PM »
Wow... I finally got caught up on this story... 5 people involved.... 3 have been fired, including his press sec and deputy campaign director, I think.  One lost his RGA appointment.  Dont know about the other.  3 staff members and 2 apointees?  I may be wrong, correct me if so, I just watched the story.

His top deputy director ordered it, and a Christie apointee enacted it.
When asked about it by the mayor's office, another christie staff member said "you win some, you lose some", clearly admitting a contest.  Then the cover up began, and a lot of the wording used in those emails was pretty racially charged... it'll be another day until the media gets on that one, but it ain't pretty. 

You'd have to believe 3 members of his staff did it alone, lied to him the entire time, and 2 of them resigned without ever   telling him why. 

Most people are finding it hard to believe... and given the outright denial, THEN the change to it was just an experiement, THEN to it was only these 5 collaborators and Christie didn't know why they resigned, and didn't ask lol.   

I don't believe it.  I know it's no benghazi, and yes, the left media is loving this story.  But Christie is using ROLLING DISCLOSURE.   We have obama if we want that.  Christie is supposed to be the straight shooter, who keeps it real with us. 

Repubs, just leave this dude at home on election day... Choose Rand or Cruz or Perry or Jeb to whoop Hilary/whoever in 2016.  Aside from his HIGHLY liberal past, his planned parenthood donations, his anti-gun prickery.... Aside from his weight and anger... this dude just isn't a straight shooter.  I think Rand would have owned this.  Cruz would have admitted it.  Perry would have laughed and said "oops!".   Christie is using the obama playbook here.  For us to believe he didn't know about it really forces us to believe a lot of really unbelievable things... staffers resign and he doesn't ask why? 

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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2014, 04:20:55 AM »

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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2014, 04:34:37 AM »
ah, we haven't seen those Bob videos in a while.  Awesome stuff!!!!!!!!!   I just started the day with a smile. 

Wait til bob sees that Rachel Maddow clip... she points out 12 hours earlier, Christie melted down on NJ state senate dems, called them animals.  Complete and obvious motive.  Now Christie says he has ZERO INTEREST in hearing why they did this, well of course lol.  Great video by Bob, just awesome!  thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2014, 06:01:35 AM »
Limbaugh is a very smart man.  He's seen many politicians lie themselves into obscurity over the past few decades.  And it looks like he reveals here something that might be important.  He claimed he was up all night doing soul searching, the night BEFORE he supposedly found about it.  That might be important.  It would undermine his entire argument that he knew nothing.  Sure, his defenders will say "Oh, he just misspoke", but wow, the pieces are just stacking up more and more.



RUSH: Now you got the New York Times saying (paraphrasing), "We're not moved by this. He may have apologized, but that doesn't mean that this bridge scandal is over." They think this could still be the end of his career. CNN's not letting go. CNN just said this is only the beginning. Let's go to the audio sound bites. Here's Christie. We've got two of them. Listen carefully. Both of these are from today, the press conference. Here's the first one. Listen carefully.

CHRISTIE: Believe me, John, I haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights, and I've been doing a lot of soul-searching. I'm sick over this.

RUSH: I haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights. A lot of soul-searching, sick over this, haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights. Here's the next bite.

CHRISTIE: I was done with my workout yesterday morning, and got a call from my communications director at about 8:50, 8:55 informing me of this story that had just broken on the Bergen Record website, that was the first time I knew about this. It's the first time I had seen any of the documents that were revealed yesterday.

RUSH: Look, I gotta ask, then why didn't he sleep the first night? He said, "I haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights, lot of soul-searching. But I just found out about this yesterday after my workout."


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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2014, 07:00:56 AM »

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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2014, 07:22:41 AM »
ah, we haven't seen those Bob videos in a while.  Awesome stuff!!!!!!!!!   I just started the day with a smile. 

Wait til bob sees that Rachel Maddow clip... she points out 12 hours earlier, Christie melted down on NJ state senate dems, called them animals.  Complete and obvious motive.  Now Christie says he has ZERO INTEREST in hearing why they did this, well of course lol.  Great video by Bob, just awesome!  thanks for sharing.

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Oh. It's ok for Democrats to continually block nominees at a state level, but wrong for Republicans to do it at a federal level. Thus, the nuclear option.   Ah, I see.

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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2014, 09:16:43 AM »
"Oh. It's ok for Democrats to continually block nominees at a state level, but wrong for Republicans to do it at a federal level. Thus, the nuclear option.   Ah, I see."

WTF did I say that's okay?  If they did this, lock their asses up, call them out publicly, etc.  But shutting down a portion of the city and stranding thousands of people - to punish 5 democrats?  WTF kind of sense is that? 

What I'm saying is, there are going to be idiots that block each other, and they are all going to get mad about it.  Lots of butthurt, sure, and if they break law, imprison them.  But what Christie's team did was a CLEAR abuse of power, and it punished a bunch of people just trying to get to work (or to the hospital!)

I see idiots on both left & right boards, all trying to make this about obama or whatever.  Dudes, the Gov's office abused his power and he keep changing his story about it.  Someone DIED because she couldn't get to the hospital.  Ambulance stuck in traffic... The old woman had nothing to do with appointing dems or repubs.

Christie's office (deputy chief of staff) issued a district traffic shutdown - 12 hours after his meltdown - in the home district of what Christie called "those animals". 

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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2014, 09:48:46 AM »
Codey pissed off Christie.  In ONE day, he was stripped of his security guard (usually given to ex-governors), and I believe two of his cousins were fired from their state jobs.   He was a prime example of the political bullying/hardball/toughness that Christie was known for.  So I don't give much credence to this guy's opinion.  If anything, he does nothing but dispel the new claim that "I'm not a bully".   Christie prided himself on getting results form exactly that, being a bully lol. 





Ex-N.J. Guv: Christie Knew Ally's Bridge Excuse Was 'Bullsh*t'


Source: Talking Points Memo

A former New Jersey governor thinks current Gov. Chris Christie (R) may have known more about the George Washington Bridge scandal plaguing his administration than he let on in a nearly two-hour press conference Thursday.

State Sen. Richard Codey (D), who served as governor after former Gov. Jim McGreevey's (D) resignation, told Salon in an interview published Friday that he thinks there has "been a coverup" of the September lane closures on the bridge that gridlocked the borough of Fort Lee, N.J.

Christie said at the press conference that he didn't know his administration was involved in the lane closures until Wednesday, when emails between his deputy chief of staff and one of his appointees to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey discussing the lane closures became public.

"I think when he has had previous press conferences, it’s hard to believe he didn’t have some knowledge … in some way," Codey told Salon. "After the stuff started coming out about some phony traffic study? Come on, you knew this was bullshit. You should’ve been saying this back then."

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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2014, 10:22:31 AM »
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/09/if-chris-christie-learned-about-bridge-gate-yesterday-why-has-he-lost-a-lot-of-sleep-for-the-last-two-nights

So Beck's new & Rush are both all over him for this. 

What I'm surprised about... we don't hear a bunch of getbiggers defending him, saying "Oh, who cares if he lied about when he found out" or "Oh, that's just business as usual".

Did far-right conservatives really hate Christie this much?  Soulcrusher?  hh6?  BB?  I'd expect an instant defense of the dude.  Very cool to see people abandoning the blind party loyalty and looking at the facts.

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« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2014, 11:05:14 AM »
"Oh. It's ok for Democrats to continually block nominees at a state level, but wrong for Republicans to do it at a federal level. Thus, the nuclear option.   Ah, I see."

WTF did I say that's okay? 

It was meant as a comment on Maddow's failure to point out the democrat hypocrisy. Yeah, I know. We can't expect it from her.

You are awfully sensitive today.

Are you annoyed by the attempt to expand the "stand your ground" law?



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« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2014, 11:07:16 AM »
It was meant as a comment on Maddow's failure to point out the democrat hypocrisy. Yeah, I know. We can't expect it from her.
You are awfully sensitive today.
Are you annoyed by the attempt to expand the "stand your ground" law?

Do you really want the 240s of the world to have the legal right to fire warning shots?  LOL... "Oh, I felt threat, warning shot.  Oh, I was scared, warning shot".  lol... there's a difference between supporting gun rights and giving people the leash to be emotional idiots with their guns. 

Maddow's job is to support the left, just as rush's job is to support the right.  Christie doesn't fall under either party lol.  He's a RINO.

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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2014, 11:08:23 AM »
So Beck's new & Rush are both all over him for this. 

What I'm surprised about... we don't hear a bunch of getbiggers defending him, saying "Oh, who cares if he lied about when he found out" or "Oh, that's just business as usual".

Did far-right conservatives really hate Christie this much?  Soulcrusher?  hh6?  BB?  I'd expect an instant defense of the dude.  Very cool to see people abandoning the blind party loyalty and looking at the facts.

I live here and the traffic at GWB is ATROCIOUS.  To think it was ever on purpose over petty bs?  Oh fuck that!!!!  

If Christie knew and did not fire the person when he found out about it - even if it was a month ago - he is in deep shit  

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« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2014, 11:53:02 AM »
The reason Christie can't sleep at night is likely because he knows as soon as someone in the know gets immunity then it's going to be revealed that Christie knew about this

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« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2014, 12:17:38 PM »
how did the email get shown

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« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2014, 12:22:07 PM »
yes he'll be finished if he had knowledge...just on obstructing emergency vehicles or even aiding in a situation that may cause that will be too much for his enemies to not use agasinst him mercilessly

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« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2014, 12:26:36 PM »
how did the email get shown

one of the people in the loop must have released them.  Perhaps this "Charlie" on his staff that keeps getting discussed but hasn't been named yet.  There's a lot of REDACTED parts... probably the releaser covering their ass.  My guess is that the other people thrown under the bus, once they're under oath and offered immunity... one of them might release the other half of the emails showing other things.  Whatever they chose to redact couldn't have been good.

We know half of the emails (WSJ released a long list of them, they're more interesting than just the main one they're focusing on)... we know that more than half of the emails were about the heat some of the people were feeling from reporters asking who gave the order.  it's always the coverup that causes the big mess.  Reporters have been hounding them for what looks like 2 months...

They haven't discussed much of what was in the emails... some pretty tough language.  IF we ever see the part that was redacted, it could become ugly.  They probably have all the lawyers making deals to quietly make it all go away.  You know, "Here's a book deal with a non-disclosure..... and a million bucks..." for a book they'll never collect.   heck, if my boss was the gov and he threw me under the bus, and offered a huge cash settlement to just STFU, I'd probably do it... I dont see what other options they'd have.  Just some staffer's word versus the honorable governor.  Christie has destroyed some of his political enemies in the past.  Ruthless dude that sudednly claims "i'm not a bully" when that toughness is what has taken him this far.   However, if prosecutors arrive from investigation and start talking jail time, then it gets ugly.

So weird a traffic jam used for vengeance could lead to him losing a likely slot for prez.  unreal.

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 "A Timeline For Those Just Tuning In To The Christie Bridge Scandal"


Eric Lach – January 8, 2014, 1:34 PM EST9163

The Gov. Chris Christie (R) bridge scandal metastasized on Wednesday.

Subpoenaed documents obtained by TPM and other media outlets revealed direct ties between the Christie administration and the discussion about closing lanes on the George Washington Bridge in September. The lane closures lead to a massive, multi-day traffic jam in the town of Fort Lee, N.J.

Officials with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which oversees the bridge, have maintained that the lanes were closed as a result of a traffic study. But Democrats in New Jersey have dismissed that explanation. Instead, they have suggested the closures were retaliation against Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, a Democrat, who declined to endorse Christie's re-election bid last year.

For those just tuning in, here's a recap of some of the key dates and moments in the ongoing story.

August 13: "Time For Some Traffic Problems In Fort Lee"

According to the documents released on Wednesday, one of Christie's closest aides was involved in a discussion about the order to close the lanes, weeks before the closure actually took place. On Aug. 13, Christie Deputy Chief of Staff for Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs Bridget Anne Kelly sent an email to David Wildstein, a former high school classmate of Christie's and one of the governor's appointees to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee," Kelly wrote.

"Got it," Wildstein replied.

The documents released Wednesday are heavily redacted in parts, making it hard to tell if Kelly meant the traffic problems were the motivation for the closure, or whether she was anticipating the traffic as an effect of the order.

Sept. 6: The Order Comes In

Wildstein ordered the bridge's general manager to carry out the lane closures.

Sept. 9: The Lanes Are Closed

The lane closures began. A few days later, here's how a local news report described the results:

    The Port Authority, which runs the bridge, cut the number of tollbooths from three to one on the big span and narrowed the traffic patterns on its approaches from two Fort Lee streets. Instead of three lanes, the approach from Bruce Reynolds Boulevard and Martha Washington Way funnels down to one lane that leads to a combination cash-and-E-ZPass toll booth.

Sept. 10: "Is It Wrong That I Am Smiling?"

According to the documents released Wednesday, Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich texted Bill Baroni, another Christie appointee to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, on Sept. 10 and expressed worries about "getting kids to school." That message appears to have been relayed to Wildstein, who replied with the following text message: "Is it wrong that I am smiling?"

Sept. 13: Fort Lee Mayor Goes Public With Suspicions

Just days after the lanes were closed, Sokolich raised the possibility that politics were involved.

"I've asked the Port for an explanation, but they haven't responded," Sokolich told a local columnist in a piece published on Sept. 13. "I thought we had a good relationship. Now I'm beginning to wonder if there's something I did wrong. Am I being sent some sort of message?"

Nov. 25: The Grilling Begins

New Jersey legislators hold a hearing to question top Port Authority officials about the lane closures.

"You are a masterful dancer and we appreciate your dancing skills," Assemblyman John Wisniewski told Baroni, according to WNYC.

In his testimony, Baroni told lawmakers that local mayors and transportation official were not notified about the lane closure plan due to a communication failure.

Dec. 2: Christie Speaks Out, Makes Light

Christie himself addressed the controversy for the first time. At a news conference in Trenton, N.J., Christie made light of the suggestion that he was connected to the closures.

"I worked the cones, actually," Christie said, according to WNYC. "Unbeknownst to everybody I was actually the guy out there, in overalls and a hat."

"You really are not serious with that question," Christie added.

Dec. 6: First Christie Pal Resigns

Wildstein announced his decision to resign from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. In a letter to Baroni, Wildstein wrote that he would leave on Jan. 1 “to pursue other opportunities," according to The Bergen Record.

Dec. 13: Second Christie Pal Resigns

Baroni followed Wildstein out the door. But unlike Wildstein, Baroni's resignation took effect as soon as it was announced.

Christie said the resignation was "nothing that I hadn’t planned already."

"Baroni said when he testified [during a recent hearing] that a mistake was made. They believe that the study needed to be done but they didn’t do it correctly within the protocols of the Port Authority," Christie said. "He’s taken responsibility for that, as well he should because he’s the lead person for New Jersey at the Port."

Dec. 18: Lawyers Get Involved

After hiring attorneys, both Wildstein and Baroni were given two more days to comply with subpoenas demanding all documents and correspondence between members of the Christie administration and Port Authority officials.

Dec. 19: Christie Calls Scandal 'Not That Big A Deal'

At a news conference, Christie once again dismissed the scandal, and criticized reporters for focusing on it.

"I have a lot of things to do. ... I know you guys are obsessed with this. I'm not, I'm really not. It's just -- it's not that big a deal just because press runs around and writes about it both here and nationally. I know why that is and so do you," Christie said. "Let's not pretend that it's because of the gravity of the issue. It's because I am a national figure and anything like this will be written about a lot now. So, let's not pretend."

Jan. 8: Documents Become Public

TPM and other news outlets obtain documents that show the communications between Christie's allies about the bridge lane closures.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/bridge-scandal-timeline

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"Christie Aide: 'Time For Some Traffic Problems in Fort Lee'"

One of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's (R) closest aides was involved in the discussion about the order to close lanes on the George Washington Bridge in September, snarling traffic in the town of Fort Lee.

Documents obtained Wednesday by TPM show that Christie's Deputy Chief of Staff for Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs, Bridget Anne Kelly, talked about the closures with the agency that oversees the bridge weeks before they ocurred.

"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee," Kelly wrote in an Aug. 13 email to David Wildstein, one of Christie's appointees to the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey.

"Got it," Wildstein replied.

It's not clear from the documents, which have been heavily redacted in some parts, whether Kelly meant the traffic problems were the motivation for the closure or the effect of it.

On Aug. 28, Wildstein emailed Kelly to say he wanted to speak with her on the phone about Fort Lee. They apparently connected on Aug. 30 when Kelly sent an email indicating she would call him "in about an hour."

"That will undoubtedly be the highlight of my day," wrote Wildstein.

Christie has repeatedly denied he played any role in the decision to shut the lanes. Wildstein, a close ally and former high school classmate of Christie's, ordered the bridge's general manager to carry out the closures on Sept. 6 and the closures began Sept. 9.

Some Democrats have alleged the order to shut the lanes was retaliation against Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, a Democrat, who had declined to endorse Christie's re-election bid.

On Wednesday, after the documents became public, Sokolich said he agreed.

"I've been punished not for something I've done, but for something I didn't do," Sokolich told the Wall Street Journal. "This is the behavior of a bully in a schoolyard. It is the greatest example of political payback."

Other communications among the subpoenaed documents show Wildstein requesting "radio silence" after Sokolich called Port Authority describing the gridlock as an "urgent matter of public safety in Fort Lee" and asking for an explanation.

"His name comes right after mayor Fulop," Wildstein wrote in an apparent reference to Democratic Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop.

On Sept. 9 and Sept. 10, Wildstein was apparently receiving ongoing updates about the "traffic disaster" in Fort Lee. On Sept. 10, Wildstein said to someone via text message that Fort Lee's mayor had reached out to Bill Baroni, another Christie appointee, expressing worries about "getting kids to school."

"Help please. It's maddening," Sokolich wrote in a message to Baroni.

That message appears to have been passed on to Wildstein who wrote, "Is it wrong that I am smiling?"

It is unclear who Wildstein was corresponding with, however the recipient of his message said, "No."

"I feel badly about the kids," wrote Wildstein. "I guess."

"They are the children of Buono voters," joked Wildstein's correspondent, referring to Christie's challenger in last November's election, Barbara Buono.

Wildstein and Baroni have said the lanes were closed as a result of a traffic study.

An email from Wildstein to Kelly on Sept. 6 indicated Wildstein approved a "traffic study" requested by the mayor of Springfield, N.J. It's unclear whether that traffic study had anything to do with the lane closures. The email said the traffic study was "for Morris Avenue." Morris Avenue in Springfield is more than 25 miles from the George Washington Bridge in Fort Lee.

Both Wildstein and Baroni resigned from their positions at Port Authority last month as questions about the lane closures mounted. The New Jersey Assembly's Transportation Committee subpoenaed Wildstein, Baroni, and five other officials for any correspondence between Port Authority officials and the Christie administration. Based on documents obtained in those subpoenas Wildstein was ordered to testify at a hearing scheduled for Thursday.

Port Authority Executive Director Patrick Foye, who was appointed by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) has said he was not notified of the traffic closures. He ordered the lanes re-opened Sept. 13. That day, Wildstein emailed Kelly to notify her the lane closures were reversed.

"The New York side gave Fort Lee back all three lanes this morning. We are appropriately going nuts. Samson helping us to retaliate," wrote Wildstein in an apparent reference to another Christie appointee at Port Authority, Chairman David Samson.

"What??" Kelly replied.

Other emails indicate Wildstein and Baroni were in communication with Christie's press secretary Michael Drewniak, Kelly, and others in the Christie administration as Sokolich and the media raised questions about the closures.

Texts from Baroni to Wildstein contain what seem to be messages from Sokolich expressing "frustration" that the closures seem to be the result of someone being "mad at me." Baroni referred to those messages as coming, "from Serbia," an apparent mistaken reference to Sokolich being Croatian.

Wildstein also discussed coverage of the closures with Christie's campaign manager Bill Stepien on Sept. 18.

"It's fine. The mayor is an idiot, though," wrote Stepien.

Wildstein indicated that he "had empty boxes ready to take to work today" when he saw an article about the closures. He also implied the traffic jam would cause political problems for Sokolich.

"It will be a tough November for this little Serbian," Wildstein wrote.

Wildstein, Baroni, Kelly, and Drewniak did not immediately respond to requests for comment from TPM Wednesday.

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Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2014, 12:51:14 PM »
one of the people in the loop must have released them.  Perhaps this "Charlie" on his staff that keeps getting discussed but hasn't been named yet.  There's a lot of REDACTED parts... probably the releaser covering their ass.  My guess is that the other people thrown under the bus, once they're under oath and offered immunity... one of them might release the other half of the emails showing other things.  Whatever they chose to redact couldn't have been good.

We know half of the emails (WSJ released a long list of them, they're more interesting than just the main one they're focusing on)... we know that more than half of the emails were about the heat some of the people were feeling from reporters asking who gave the order.  it's always the coverup that causes the big mess.  Reporters have been hounding them for what looks like 2 months...

They haven't discussed much of what was in the emails... some pretty tough language.  IF we ever see the part that was redacted, it could become ugly.  They probably have all the lawyers making deals to quietly make it all go away.  You know, "Here's a book deal with a non-disclosure..... and a million bucks..." for a book they'll never collect.   heck, if my boss was the gov and he threw me under the bus, and offered a huge cash settlement to just STFU, I'd probably do it... I dont see what other options they'd have.  Just some staffer's word versus the honorable governor.  Christie has destroyed some of his political enemies in the past.  Ruthless dude that sudednly claims "i'm not a bully" when that toughness is what has taken him this far.   However, if prosecutors arrive from investigation and start talking jail time, then it gets ugly.

So weird a traffic jam used for vengeance could lead to him losing a likely slot for prez.  unreal.

they should know email isnt secure and will stay to be taken at any time..in the office of a man that stood to become POTUS...it is the hardest part to believe..that they would have given openings in this way...very, very, very, very hard to believe

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Re: Christy Kreme is trouble w Bridge Traffic scandal
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2014, 12:52:02 PM »
et tu brute?