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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on February 07, 2014, 03:10:42 PM
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2/06/2014
2,388 Calories 275-Carbs 92-Fat 139-Protien Fiber-33 Grams
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2/05/2014
2,393-calories 262-carbs 92-fat 153-protein Fiber-32 grams
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i think you can eat anything too but you need to eat alot of raw carrots, and plenty of water and grapejuice before bed
those raw carrots give you a whole new kind of energy
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2/04/2014
Trip to good old Burger King here. These Macros include 2 Double Cheeseburgers and lots of other good stuff throughout the day.
2,467-calories 280-carbs 103-fat 131-protein -Fiber 24
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High Vegetarian day for you Johnny. Split Pea Soup and Cabbage
2/1/2014
2,398-Cals 261-Carbs 108-Fat 117-Proten Fiber-48
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These logs go on and on and on, but I will continue to post daily.
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These logs go on and on and on, but I will continue to post daily.
Please do
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if one's not prepping for a show and just wants to stay in great shape everyday, why even count calories?
it ain't even that complicated. why not just use common sense and listen to your body re when, what and how much to eat each day?
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adam, do a monthly bloodwork checkout id be very curious, really.
and post up the foods, not every single piece, but just to get a rough idea.
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if one's not prepping for a show and just wants to stay in great shape everyday, why even count calories?
it ain't even that complicated. why not just use common sense and listen to your body re when, what and how much to eat each day?
Its not and I could do it, but I like to eat as much as I possibly can. Also, when I make elaborate creations at home, it would be near impossible to play guess the calories, especially when I am making something like a Chocolate Truffle Cake.
Sometimes I do go months without counting anything and I can be pretty accurate. When I want to really dial it all in, I count. Simple as that.
Plus, I like to document my nutrition for my own purposes. Its interesting how eating what I like, easily meets my needs. Notice my Fiber count is usually high.
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how much sugar do you eat a day?
any liquid sugar?
alcohol?
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Post all the meals. Always interesting to see what others eat.
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what is the result of all this?
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High Vegetarian day for you Johnny. Split Pea Soup and Cabbage
2/1/2014
2,398-Cals 261-Carbs 108-Fat 117-Proten Fiber-48
Your Food Diary For:
Saturday, February 1, 2014
Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Sugar
Milk - Whole, 3.25% milkfat, 1 cup 146 11 8 8 98 13
- Enriched Bran Flakes, 1 1/2 cup 180 46 1 6 340 10
Nestle - Drumstick - Chocolate Ice Cream - Chocolate - Topped With Roasted Peanuts, 1 Drumstick (94g) 310 33 17 5 90 20
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636 90 26 19 528 43
Lunch
Milk - Whole, 3.25% milkfat, 1 cup 146 11 8 8 98 13
Body Fortress - Super Advanced Whey Protein - Chocolate Peanut Butter (Updated 08/14/13), 42 grams 150 7 3 30 80 1
- Creamy Peanut Butter, 2 tbsp (32g) 200 7 16 8 150 3
Hershey's - Cocoa Special Dark Powder, 5 g (1 Tbsp) 10 3 1 1 65 0
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506 28 28 47 393 17
Dinner
The Glory of Southern Cooking Split Pea Soup with Ham, 1 serving 474 69 9 33 868 14
Yvonne Ruperti`s Eats Ham and Cheddar Biscuits, 0.21 serving 485 41 29 13 254 2
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959 110 38 46 1,122 16
Snacks
Premium Naturally Flavored Ice Cream - Cookies 'n Cream Extreme, 0.873 cup (67g) 297 33 16 5 244 24
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how much sugar do you eat a day?
any liquid sugar?
alcohol?
No Alcohol. I do not drink anything. I used to drink expensive wine every now and then, just one to three glasses a week but have not done that in a few years. I might drink one or two beer a year.
Sugar will vary according to whatever I want.
For that February 1st for instance. I had 48 grams of fiber and 100 grams of sugar
Some days the sugar will be much higher, for instance, one day I made those Captain Crunch Peanut Butter Marshmallow Bars. It just depends on what I feel like making or eating.
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and uhm,pics
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I do not always take a whey protein either. I have it around when I am extremely busy. Its totally not necessary, but if you need it, the cheapest is the best. You can get that body fortress stuff from amazon for like 11 dollars. No reason to pay anymore than that.
I use the Chocolate Peanut Butter flavor. I add 2 Tablespoons of Creamy Peanut Butter (real peanut butter like JIFF or Peter Pan, not that organic/oil laden bullshit), 5 grams Dutch Process Cocoa Powder, and 1 Cup of whole milk and mix with an immersion blender. Sometimes I will add 150-300 more calories of ice cream to it to make it a milkshake.
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Ive been semi-using adams method. ... I simply eyeball my calories and eat primarily chicken, fish, and lean beef steaks, brown rice and veggies. .. but I leave a couple hundred calories underneath my target for extra items like sugary sauces or the occasional desert.
I find its much easier to stay on a diet like this and also that I see no real difference in results by adding in a sugary/fatty treat now and then as long as im under my caloric limit.
keep in mind im not low BF yet, still in the mid/low teens, so this may change as I have to really tighten my diet up.
I eat 'clean' because it allows me maximum food for my caloric target... and I liberally use seasonings and sauces, makes chicken a lot more tolerable day in and day out. Also simple to cook chicken/fish/sirloin/ribeye in bulk.
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No Alcohol. I do not drink anything. I used to drink expensive wine every now and then, just one to three glasses a week but have not done that in a few years. I might drink one or two beer a year.
How does one do that?
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I need to drink...I mean how do you not want to stab people in the neck with pencils?
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I need to drink...I mean how do you not want to stab people in the neck with pencils?
There isn`t a pencil factory making enough pencils for the both of us to use for that my friend.
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haha I find it amusing how Apenis claims to be extremely "busy"
or get ripped on any kind of foods
yet, he has a hormonized inshape pic from 9 years ago while in other pics or the video with Branch he is quite the twink.
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Its not and I could do it, but I like to eat as much as I possibly can. Also, when I make elaborate creations at home, it would be near impossible to play guess the calories, especially when I am making something like a Chocolate Truffle Cake.
Sometimes I do go months without counting anything and I can be pretty accurate. When I want to really dial it all in, I count. Simple as that.
Plus, I like to document my nutrition for my own purposes. Its interesting how eating what I like, easily meets my needs. Notice my Fiber count is usually high.
How do you find the time to do all this cooking? Don't you have a job?
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How do you find the time to do all this cooking? Don't you have a job?
X2 what do you do for a living Adam?
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If Peter Abeles was really Adam's uncle he can cook all day long if he wants...
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Why would you coun't calories when it's impossible to determine how your body processes these calories, and without knowing how much you used on a day? Or do you have those logs too. :D
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Lol at the stupidity of counting to the exact calorie.
Who gives a fuck, do you take exactly the same amount of steps each day, do you go upstairs the same amount of times, do your stress levels stay exactly the same, does you body temp stay exactly the same every day regardless of the environment?
What a doofus.
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Lol at the stupidity of counting to the exact calorie.
Who gives a fuck, do you take exactly the same amount of steps each day, do you go upstairs the same amount of times, do your stress levels stay exactly the same, does you body temp stay exactly the same every day regardless of the environment?
What a doofus.
On a long enough time line, the aggregate energy expenditure will read pretty much like a straight line as ones behavior does not vary too much. Humans are habitual creatures as are most animals for that matter. Not that this matters because each one of us has a Resting Metabolic Rate and Basal Metabolic Rate anyways. The various equations for these are very good for establishing a baseline calorie control.
We are not concerned with exact numbers as much as we are trying to set a control. By counting calories, you can ensure that you are taking in as many calories as possible and still be in a deficit. Doing so will cause the least potential for any metabolic damage while dieting.
Just guessing will not get you optimal results as your caloric intake will be all over the place, especially for people like me who cook and eat so many different things- from cakes to cookies to pulled pork to Hungarian Beef Stew. Its impossible to estimate accurate calories for something like a Truffle Chocolate Cake that I make. You WILL overstep your caloric limits easily and I like to include these type of foods while getting lean.
Also, if you don`t know how much you can eat approximately, you will not have variables you can easily adjust. Layne Norton talks about this a lot and has a few very good Science based videos regarding variables, such as lower calories by 50-100 and really spurring fat loss where one normally would have plateaued. You can`t take advantage of these things if you are eating all over the map so to speak.
The short answer though is, I love to cook and I love to make calorie dense foods that are impossible to estimate. If I did not count calories, I would probably never be in a deficit. Of course I could try to estimate and I could under eat, but I want to eat as many calories as possible and counting calories allows me to easily do this.
You probably make garbage to eat, so it won`t matter to you one way or the other. I don`t really care what you or anyone does for that matter. Poison yourself with ricin for all I care.
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Also with this approach, I do not have to do any cardio ever if I do not want to.
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Energy balance ie Biological homeostasis of energy is pretty easy to measure and counting calories not only sets this as a control, it is the optimal way to approach dieting if you want to eat as much as you possibly can and still remain in a deficit.
I feel sorry for morons who just guess at everything.
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Lol at the stupidity of counting to the exact calorie.
Who gives a fuck, do you take exactly the same amount of steps each day, do you go upstairs the same amount of times, do your stress levels stay exactly the same, does you body temp stay exactly the same every day regardless of the environment?
What a doofus.
You do realize we are mammals, Endothermic, warm-blooded and that we maintain a constant body temperature. I didn`t realize you were this stupid actually.
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Lol at the stupidity of counting to the exact calorie.
Who gives a fuck, do you take exactly the same amount of steps each day, do you go upstairs the same amount of times, do your stress levels stay exactly the same, does you body temp stay exactly the same every day regardless of the environment?
What a doofus.
Yes, I basically take the same amount of steps, (not that this is relevant in any way) as I don`t really walk anywhere. We live in America where you don`t have to walk. Furthermore, I don`t do any cardio. Now, in the summer, I am busy working my land, but that just allows me to get deeper into a deficit while still keeping my calories very high.
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Lol at the stupidity of counting to the exact calorie.
Who gives a fuck, do you take exactly the same amount of steps each day, do you go upstairs the same amount of times, do your stress levels stay exactly the same, does you body temp stay exactly the same every day regardless of the environment?
What a doofus.
I wouldn`t even know what stress is to be honest with you. Nothing fazes me really and there is nothing I cannot deal with. I have a very strong mind and brain. I do not worry about anything, ever. Not even death.
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(http://www.motivationalquotesabout.com/images/quotes/why-should-fear-death-if-am-epicurus.jpg)
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You do realize we are mammals, Endothermic, warm-blooded and that we maintain a constant body temperature. I didn`t realize you were this stupid actually.
When its cold you burn more calories to regulate your body temperature you dumb fuck.
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I wouldn`t even know what stress is to be honest with you. Nothing fazes me really and there is nothing I cannot deal with. I have a very strong mind and brain. I do not worry about anything, ever. Not even death.
You keep responding to what people write on here so you must be bothered about that.
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Energy balance ie Biological homeostasis of energy is pretty easy to measure and counting calories not only sets this as a control, it is the optimal way to approach dieting if you want to eat as much as you possibly can and still remain in a deficit.
I feel sorry for morons who just guess at everything.
I feels sorry for morons who think they have to keep a log of everything they eat.
If you want to gain weight eat more and if you want to lose weight…well Im sure you get the idea.
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When its cold you burn more calories to regulate your body temperature you dumb fuck.
I don`t know about you, but I live in a perfectly climate controlled environment. You must not have heat. I feel very sorry for you if this is the case. In America, we have air conditioning and heat in our homes and we don`t have to walk around in the cold if we don`t want to. I know I never do.
When would I ever be cold? Plus I live in the South and its not really cold here at all.
Furthermore, the outside temperature will not cause anyone to burn any considerable difference in calories. Not only do people wear clothes (maybe you don`t, Gay4Pay perhaps?), the amount burned would be totally negligible.
Maybe you sleep naked in a park bench in a cardboard box without heat. I don`t know and I don`t really care.
Either way, you are a complete moron and your line of reasoning is asinine and pointless.
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I feels sorry for morons who think they have to keep a log of everything they eat.
If you want to gain weight eat more and if you want to lose weight…well Im sure you get the idea.
How many slices of Payard`s Charlie Afternoon Cake can I have before I know its too much?
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I don`t know about you, but I live in a perfectly climate controlled environment. You must not have heat. I feel very sorry for you if this is the case. In America, we have air conditioning and heat in our homes and we don`t have to walk around in the cold if we don`t want to. I know I never do.
When would I ever be cold? Plus I live in the South and its not really cold here at all.
Furthermore, the outside temperature will not cause anyone to burn any considerable difference in calories. Not only do people wear clothes (maybe you don`t, Gay4Pay perhaps?), the amount burned would be totally negligible.
Maybe you sleep naked in a park bench in a cardboard box without heat. I don`t know and I don`t really care.
Either way, you are a complete moron and your line of reasoning is asinine and pointless.
Glad to hear you live an a bubble, maybe thats why you are so restricted in your thinking.
As for changes being negligible surely one calorie either way is important if you count every single calorie like you do.
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How many slices of Payard`s Charlie Afternoon Cake can I have before I know its too much?
Depends on the circumstances, even the most retarded person knows shoving cake in their gobs isn't a good idea unless they want to get fat.
Your system is fine for people who just want to lose a few pounds, this, if you hadn't noticed, is a bodybuilding site where people want optimum results.
The 'proof of the pudding' as they say is obvious by your own 'best' photos, you are weeks away from true contest shape, and that my friend is because your shitty diet will only take you to that point.
Come back on here with pics of you at 5/6% and then we can talk.
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Glad to hear you live an a bubble, maybe thats why you are so restricted in your thinking.
As for changes being negligible surely one calorie either way is important if you count every single calorie like you do.
nope.
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nope.
So its not important yet you count every single calorie?
Makes sense now thanks.
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"Simple" Simon still so obsessed with what other people do and think.
What a life he must have.
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So its not important yet you count every single calorie?
Makes sense now thanks.
The negligible calories you burn from the cold are not important. It is important to track your calories.
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"Simple" Simon still so obsessed with what other people do and think.
What a life he must have.
dude argues just to argue.
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The negligible calories you burn from the cold are not important. It is important to track your calories.
Even to the exact calorie?
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"Simple" Simon still so obsessed with what other people do and think.
What a life he must have.
He is an idiot. His diet is Eat less or Eat more. He has no earthly clue what he is doing.
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He is an idiot. His diet is Eat less or Eat more. He has no earthly clue what he is doing.
I look way better than you with half the effort.
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Even to the exact calorie?
Close as possible is good enough. You don`t have to be too obsessive. It will make adjusting variables in the future much easier.
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I look way better than you with half the effort.
You put in more effort actually. (not training wise, but diet wise)
I am on autopilot and you look like shit. Hope this helps.
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Close as possible is good enough. You don`t have to be too obsessive. It will make adjusting variables in the future much easier.
lol
2,388 Calories
2,393-calories
2,467-calories
2,398-Cals
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You put in more effort actually. (not training wise, but diet wise)
I am on autopilot and you look like shit. Hope this helps.
You have no idea what I do or what I look like.
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lol
Notice how it varies a bit each day. 2400 is my goal and its no effort at all to keep it at that.
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You have no idea what I do or what I look like.
Here is what you do, what every obese person in the world does:
Eat more, eat less, guess at everything.
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Notice how it varies a bit each day. 2400 is my goal and its no effort at all to keep it at that.
So its as near as damn it to 2400, why not just say 2400, its fucking anal to do anything else, I suppose you do it all on a phone app.
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Here is what you do, what every obese person in the world does:
Eat more, eat less, guess at everything.
I dont guess at anything, I know what I have to do to get down to 6/7% bf.
Shame you cant do the same.
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I dont guess at anything, I know what I have to do to get down to 6/7% bf.
Shame you cant do the same.
As I said, you eat garbage food, don`t cook.
Anyone can just eat a little protein and undereat. There is no fun in that and I like to cook and eat as much as possible without doing any cardio. You would never be able to guesstimate calories of things I make. You would just stick to eating garbage, whereas I get to enjoy myself. Not only that, I only have to make minimal adjustments, if any, to get to where I want, eating whatever I want.
You do what fat people across the world do, guess at everything.
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Yesterday`s count:
2/7/2014
2,413-calories 278-carbs 96-fat 138-protein Fiber-35 grams
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As I said, you eat garbage food, don`t cook.
Anyone can just eat a little protein and undereat. There is no fun in that and I like to cook and eat as much as possible without doing any cardio. You would never be able to guesstimate calories of things I make. You would just stick to eating garbage, whereas I get to enjoy myself. Not only that, I only have to make minimal adjustments, if any, to get to where I want, eating whatever I want.
You do what fat people across the world do, guess at everything.
Your photos speak for themselves
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=123889.0;attach=139655;image)
You have spent 99% of your adult life looking like this.
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Here is what you do, what every obese person in the world does:
Eat more, eat less, guess at everything.
So your maintenance is 2400.
What do you do if you want to lose weight?
I just drop carbs a bit, now what could be simpler than that?
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Your photos speak for themselves
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=123889.0;attach=139655;image)
You have spent 99% of your adult life looking like this.
No, just a few months when I was force feeding myself for powerlifting. I did that on purpose.
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No, just a few months when I was force feeding myself for powerlifting. I did that on purpose.
How did you put the weight on?
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So your maintenance is 2400.
What do you do if you want to lose weight?
I just drop carbs a bit, now what could be simpler than that?
My maintenance is much higher than that actually.
I can lose on 2800 if I want to. I chose 2400 because I am doing something in nine weeks that requires me to look a certain way.
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You have no idea what I do or what I look like.
Why don't you tell us and show us?
Let me guess? Security reasons?
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My maintenance is much higher than that actually.
I can lose on 2800 if I want to. I chose 2400 because I am doing something in nine weeks that requires me to look a certain way.
So you are eating less to achieve this look, amazing.
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How did you put the weight on?
5000-10000 calories a day for months and months on end.
I am able to eat a lot. 3000 is pretty much my maintenance where I won`t gain any weight. I wanted to see how much sheer weight I could actually gain. The more I gained, the more my lifts went up of course.
No matter how much I fed myself, the two times I went all out, I never was able to get over 238 lbs or so. I tried everything, dumping Heavy Cream into everything I ate, drinking a gallon of whole milk a day and the scale would never move beyond that number.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222861.0;attach=261210;image)
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So you are eating less to achieve this look, amazing.
Anyone can undereat. They do that in Botswana if I recall.
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Why don't you tell us and show us?
Let me guess? Security reasons?
I eat pretty much the same foods all week and eat what I like at weekends, if I want to lose some fat I will drop my carbs and keep everything else the same until Im almost where I want to be.
I use the mirror as a gauge.
If I was competing then I would radically change things for around 4 weeks to get the last bit of fat off.
And no photos, I dont need to, people here can vouch for me.
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5000-10000 calories a day for months and months on end.
I am able to eat a lot. 3000 is pretty much my maintenance where I won`t gain any weight. I wanted to see how much sheer weight I could actually gain. The more I gained, the more my lifts went up of course.
No matter how much I fed myself, the two times I went all out, I never was able to get over 238 lbs or so. I tried everything, dumping Heavy Cream into everything I ate, drinking a gallon of whole milk a day and the scale would never move beyond that number.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222861.0;attach=261210;image)
So you ate more, thanks.
Isnt that what I suggested?
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I eat pretty much the same foods all week and eat what I like at weekends, if I want to lose some fat I will drop my carbs and keep everything else the same until Im almost where I want to be.
I use the mirror as a gauge.
If I was competing then I would radically change things for around 4 weeks to get the last bit of fat off.
And no photos, I dont need to, people here can vouch for me.
ROFLMAO!
As I said, you restrict yourself to the same garbage day in and day out. For me, personally, that is NO WAY to live.
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Anyone can undereat. They do that in Botswana if I recall.
But its what you are doing never the less?
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So you ate more, thanks.
Isnt that what I suggested?
I could have eaten 3200 calories which is essentially "more", but I would have never been able to put up the numbers that I did on my lifts. So your eat more idea is pure shit.
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ROFLMAO!
As I said, you restrict yourself to the same garbage day in and day out. For me, personally, that is NO WAY to live.
I like what Im eating, its good quality nutritious food, it tastes good.
I can easily switch to something else but whats the point, I like what I eat.
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But its what you are doing never the less?
No. I am eating in a deficit with the highest amount of calories for the time frame I need.
To lose bodyfat you need to be in a deficit. This goes for all diets. Taking your advice, one may not be in a consistent deficit or they will be undereating so much, that metabolic damage may occur. Again, your simple simon ideas are shit for many reasons.
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I like what Im eating, its good quality nutritious food, it tastes good.
I can easily switch to something else but whats the point, I like what I eat.
I wouldn`t like what you eat at all though.
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I could have eaten 3200 calories which is essentially "more", but I would have never been able to put up the numbers that I did on my lifts. So your eat more idea is pure shit.
Fact remains you ate more food to gain weight, stop trying to dodge around that.
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stop all this cussing immediatley you fucking /\/iggers
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Fact remains you ate more food to gain weight, stop trying to dodge around that.
Who is dodging it? I said I force fed myself. I really wonder about your reading comprehension skills here. This is like the fifth thread where you have proven you can`t read or comprehend. Serious question, do you have a learning disability? I am not trying to be mean or anything, because I will work with you on it if this is the case.
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No. I am eating in a deficit with the highest amount of calories for the time frame I need.
To lose bodyfat you need to be in a deficit. This goes for all diets. Taking your advice, one may not be in a consistent deficit or they will be undereating so much, that metabolic damage may occur. Again, your simple simon ideas are shit for many reasons.
you're shooting for 2400 cals is not always lower than 2400 cals, so you are not always in a deficit either.
Now you may say you only need to be around 2400 , so what difference is it if Im 100 over one day and 200 lower another?
Are you saying thats going to result in metabolic damage?
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you're shooting for 2400 cals is not always lower than 2400 cals, so you are not always in a deficit either.
Now you may say you only need to be around 2400 , so what difference is it if Im 100 over one day and 200 lower another?
Are you saying thats going to result in metabolic damage?
At 2900 I am in a deficit. Hope this helps.
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you're shooting for 2400 cals is not always lower than 2400 cals, so you are not always in a deficit either.
Now you may say you only need to be around 2400 , so what difference is it if Im 100 over one day and 200 lower another?
Are you saying thats going to result in metabolic damage?
You wouldn`t be able to guesstimate the foods I eat at all.
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Who is dodging it? I said I force fed myself. I really wonder about your reading comprehension skills here. This is like the fifth thread where you have proven you can`t read or comprehend. Serious question, do you have a learning disability? I am not trying to be mean or anything, because I will work with you on it if this is the case.
All those calories you stuffed into your body came out the other end unused as huge turds.
Your body cant absorb and use 10,000 cals a day you retard.
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All those calories you stuffed into your body came out the other end unused as huge turds.
Your body cant absorb and use 10,000 cals a day you retard.
Obviously.
I wasn`t counting calories at all, I was just "eating more". Your principle. It put on the fat like I wanted to make the lifts go up. It worked for what I was trying to accomplish.
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At 2900 I am in a deficit. Hope this helps.
So whats your maintenance?
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Obviously.
I wasn`t counting calories at all, I was just "eating more". Your principle. It put on the fat like I wanted to make the lifts go up. It worked for what I was trying to accomplish.
You would get the same results eating 8000 as you would 10,000
By the way if you were not counting how did you know you were eating 10,000?
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So whats your maintenance?
I already told you. Lets see if you can find it in this thread. (Seriously, are you Jason Genova dyslexic or something? What is your disability that causes such poor comprehension?)
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You would get the same results eating 8000 as you would 10,000
I have no idea how many days were 5000, 4000, 8000, 10,000, 12,000, 3700.
I was just using your advice, "eat more".
Hope this helps.
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I already told you. Lets see if you can find it in this thread. (Seriously, are you Jason Genova dyslexic or something? What is your disability that causes such poor comprehension?)
No, you said "pretty much 3000", I just wondered if you had plucked that random figure out your ass.
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No, you said "pretty much 3000", I just wondered if you had plucked that random figure out your ass.
I didn`t. Its based on adjusting and keeping calorie amounts for long stretches of time.
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I have no idea how many days were 5000, 4000, 8000, 10,000, 12,000, 3700.
I was just using your advice, "eat more".
Hope this helps.
When you quote someone its normal to address the quote.
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When you quote someone its normal to address the quote.
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???
Now whos the dumbass?
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ROFLMAO!
As I said, you restrict yourself to the same garbage day in and day out. For me, personally, that is NO WAY to live.
Tell me, when you are knocking up all these wonderful culinary delights do you have your little app out counting all the cals and working out if you can have a bit less or a bit more off this and that?
To me, thats no fucking way to live.
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How do you go on when you take your other half for a meal out?
How do you count the cals?
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No. I am eating in a deficit with the highest amount of calories for the time frame I need.
To lose bodyfat you need to be in a deficit. This goes for all diets. Taking your advice, one may not be in a consistent deficit or they will be undereating so much, that metabolic damage may occur. Again, your simple simon ideas are shit for many reasons.
Would following galeniko 1000 cal a day diet lead to metabolic damage?
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Would following galeniko 1000 cal a day diet lead to metabolic damage?
No , kidney failure.
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Do you have a weight in mind you are trying to target or bodyfat percentage?
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Now whos the dumbass?
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Are you ok?
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Tell me, when you are knocking up all these wonderful culinary delights do you have your little app out counting all the cals and working out if you can have a bit less or a bit more off this and that?
To me, thats no fucking way to live.
I don`t.
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How do you go on when you take your other half for a meal out?
How do you count the cals?
Proportional Fraction. Math that is probably too difficult for you.
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How do you go on when you take your other half for a meal out?
How do you count the cals?
I don`t have to go half. I have whatever amount I like and know the exact calories.
Proportional Fractions. Probably beyond your limited grasp though.
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I don`t.
So you dont count the cals of the foods you are making?
You seem to never be more than 50cals either way on your 2400 target, thats mightily impressive.
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Would following galeniko 1000 cal a day diet lead to metabolic damage?
Certainly in a long enough time frame.
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I don`t have to go half. I have whatever amount I like and know the exact calories.
Proportional Fractions. Probably beyond your limited grasp though.
"Other half" is your partner , I really hope you are trolling.
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So you dont count the cals of the foods you are making?
You seem to never be more than 50cals either way on your 2400 target, thats mightily impressive.
Again with the poor comprehension.
I don`t use a phone or an app.
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Also, I am making this tonight, http://sousstyle.com/2014/02/03/sausage-thyme-saves-nine/
What do you think?
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Certainly in a long enough time frame.
how long?
Cut the half arsed answers FFS.
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Again with the poor comprehension.
I don`t use a phone or an app.
so what do you use to count your cals, FFS this is like pulling teeth.
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"Other half" is your partner , I really hope you are trolling.
Oh brother, here is an example for your below average intelligence.
67 grams/160 calories (67 grams of food X is 160 calories)
Say I want 290 calories of food X.
290*67=19430
19430/160= 121 grams.
So if I wanted 290 calories of food X, I would weigh 121 grams.
This is just an example. I am sure you won`t get it still.
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Oh brother, here is an example for your below average intelligence.
67 grams/160 calories (67 grams of food X is 160 calories)
Say I want 290 calories of food X.
290*67=19430
19430/160= 121 grams.
So if I wanted 290 calories of food X, I would weigh 121 grams.
This is just an example. I am sure you won`t get it still.
Epic trolling in this thread or you really are monumentally stupid.
When you take your girlfriend (other half/partner) out for a meal how do you count cals?
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Also, I am making this tonight, http://sousstyle.com/2014/02/03/sausage-thyme-saves-nine/
What do you think?
I approve! Looks great. Save some of your best olive oil for drizzling at the end!
Let me know how it goes. What kind of Bacon are you going to use?
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Epic trolling in this thread or you really are monumentally stupid.
When you take your girlfriend (other half/partner) out for a meal how do you count cals?
I don`t like any restaurants because I cook way better. We can`t stand to go to them anymore because no matter where we go, its worse than what we can make at home.
But, when we do go out, I don`t even worry about it. As long as you are on point more days than you aren`t, you will be fine. The more days you are on point, of course it will be a much faster process. Since we love to cook, I am able to be on point whenever I want for however long I want.
I already stated many times I go through months and months at a time without counting a thing, but when I want to laser in, I count. Simple as that.
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A 1,500-2,000 calorie diet, and a 5 day workout schedule will get anyone ripped.
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I approve! Looks great. Save some of your best olive oil for drizzling at the end!
Let me know how it goes. What kind of Bacon are you going to use?
I get my bacon from here, http://nakedbaconco.com.
Being in St. Louis, this stuff is some of the best. I have the place I go to get me the thickest cut they can.
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I don`t like any restaurants because I cook way better. We can`t stand to go to them anymore because no matter where we go, its worse than what we can make at home.
But, when we do go out, I don`t even worry about it. As long as you are on point more days than you aren`t, you will be fine. The more days you are on point, of course it will be a much faster process. Since we love to cook, I am able to be on point whenever I want for however long I want.
I already stated many times I go through months and months at a time without counting a thing, but when I want to laser in, I count. Simple as that.
post some pics
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A 1,500-2,000 calorie diet, and a 5 day workout schedule will get anyone ripped.
Exactly. Hard to gauge that when you make the foods that I make though.
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I get my bacon from here, http://nakedbaconco.com.
Being in St. Louis, this stuff is some of the best. I have the place I go to get me the thickest cut they can.
That is awesome! I really want to know how this turns out for you. I may give this a try this week.
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That is awesome! I really want to know how this turns out for you. I may give this a try this week.
I will let you know. Time to make the pasta!
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you should try to get on the MasterChef show True Adonis
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I don`t like any restaurants because I cook way better. We can`t stand to go to them anymore because no matter where we go, its worse than what we can make at home.
But, when we do go out, I don`t even worry about it. As long as you are on point more days than you aren`t, you will be fine. The more days you are on point, of course it will be a much faster process. Since we love to cook, I am able to be on point whenever I want for however long I want.
I already stated many times I go through months and months at a time without counting a thing, but when I want to laser in, I count. Simple as that.
Was there an apology in there somewhere?
So you both like staying in and eat out only very rarely.
I like eating out often because its nice not having to fuck around cooking and washing pots and pans (we have a dishwasher but its still a ball ache)
I go through months and months of not counting, I only really monitor what Im eating prior to competing.
I never look at packets of food checking cal content, its all irrelevant to me.
So essentially we are the same? :o
I just think you are a bit more anal retentive at it. ;D
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What's "metabolic damage" and how does it manifest itself?
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What's "metabolic damage" and how does it manifest itself?
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2400 is my goal and its no effort at all to keep it at that.
2400 or Bust
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I like it better when you explain things.
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a natural who grows into shows.
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a natural who grows into shows.
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Could you summarise its content, I dont have 30 minutes to waste.
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Could you summarise its content, I dont have 30 minutes to waste.
Eat more to get leaner. Start at about 20 minutes or before and Layne will give you pictures examples with macros of clients he has worked with-lifetime naturals- who may diet on around 2400 calories, only to raise the calories to 3000 or more to become leaner even, this raising their metabolic adaptation. He has some examples for women as well.
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Macros for yesterday which included a 14 ounce Sous Vide Denver Steak and Deep Fried Crispy Potatoes that I made.
2,379-Calories 275-Carbs 83-Fat 131-Protein Fiber-21
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Eat more to get leaner. Start at about 20 minutes or before and Layne will give you pictures examples with macros of clients he has worked with-lifetime naturals- who may diet on around 2400 calories, only to raise the calories to 3000 or more to become leaner even, this raising their metabolic adaptation. He has some examples for women as well.
He knows they are life time naturals because he spends every waking hour with them?
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He knows they are life time naturals because he spends every waking hour with them?
Yep.
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Yep.
One born every minute.
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aha eat more to get leaner.
lol at metqabolic damage ,whats the precise definition of that?
is there something mnew on the block ive missedd?
what about the 1000s of debunking explanation about that damage?
no shit the body up and down regulates metabolism at times?really?who would have thought?
you mean, kinda like when asleep vs when doing cardio
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Pretty sure this whole "idea" of metabolic damage got owned into oblivion by Lyle McDonald.
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Pretty sure this whole "idea" of metabolic damage got owned into oblivion by Lyle McDonald.
i heard that he and Layne have argued on facebook about it
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Pretty sure this whole "idea" of metabolic damage got owned into oblivion by Lyle McDonald.
I saw that whole exchange and Lyle clearly lost that round.
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Increasing metabolic rate is a real thing and there are many things that can enable one to do this.
I came across an interesting post the other day:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/919536-get-your-metabolic-rate-tested-my-metabolic-reset-story?hl=metabolism+reset
Hi
From October through to January I decreased my calories by a couple of hundred and at the same time upped my exercise. I am 5 foot 2. I have been at scale goal weight since last August. Since then I have been recomposing, ie losing fat and centimeters. I retain muscle mass easily as I have the genetics for it.
I thought I was adequatly fueling my body eating between 1700 - 1950 calories for those 3 and a half months but I was in for a huge shock when I got my resting metabolic rate tested. It was just 875. My body was in semi-starvation (survivol mode) according the the exercise physiologist. That is why my metaboic rate lowered drastically because i was not fueling myself properly so it slows way down in order to survive.
Anyway thanks to the Eat more to Weight less group I was reading up about doing a metabolic reset. The exercise physiologist suggested eating 10 - 20% more than I was and gave me some great advice concerning exercise and nutrition. I decided to do my own little experiment. Since the 2nd of February I decided to eat more than my TDEE. I wanted to see just how much I could eat without gaining weight. So I started off eating mid 2500's and then most of the time for the past 5 weeks I have been eating mid to high 2000 calories !! In that time I have put on roughly half to 1 kg in weight I think. From August till end of January my weight was in the range of 57.5 - 59.5 kg and now its in the 58 - 59.7 range for the last couple of weeks.
Yesterday I had a retest of my resting metabolic rate. (RMR) it was 1497. Originally when i had it tested it was just 875 and the man said it should be around the 1350 mark. So I am absolutely thrilled that I have increased my RMR by over 600 calories !!! Wow I couldn't believe it. My body fat % is 22.5%. I'm working towards high teens perhaps 18 - 20% body fat. Also I'm above average in the general population for my age and height :D I'm more like in the athletic range for body composition now.
I am now in the process of trying to find my true TDEE. I have reduced my calories by a few hundred and depending on activity levels I am going to be eating between 2200 - 2700. I will experiment at this level for the next 6 weeks to see if I can stabilise at this range. I think I have pretty much stabilized right now but I will give it a good 6 weeks weeks eating at this amount.
I told the exercise physiologist I still want to cut. I want to lose more off my tummy area. I want a more defined tummy. He believes I can lose the fat eating 2200-2300 calories. I got some great tips in the Eat more to Weight less group and have decided that in 6 weeks time or once i am sure my weight has stablised when im figuring out my TDEE I will cut first down to 2,300 weekly average and see how I go losing at that for a month. Then if its too high an amount still I'll reduce down 100 calories till I hit my sweet spot. So out of all this it appears I do need to eat above the 2000 calorie mark to lose the fat and not f*** up my metabolic rate. It all depends on my exercise levels. If Im heaviily exercising I have to adequately fuel myself so that I'm not cutting any higher than 10 - 15% off my TDEE.
I highly recommend getting your RMR tested. If its plummeted you can fix it doing a metabolic reset eating at TDEE, you will put on a little bit of weight however once you stablize and are ready to diet again you will then be able to eat more when you go to lose the weight. It is also much more life sustainable.
Also another tip. According to katch mcardle my estimated rmr is just 1200 calories now if I went by that figure i would be 300 calories out. Also the TDEE is just an estimate too. According to TDEE it says I should maintain on 2100. Nope I can maintain on a lot higher than that. Its all just a starting point you really need to do your own experiment, track what you eat over a time period and see what amount works for you. ie what you can maintain on, what is your cutting sweet spot.
If you are new and just started your diet. If I were you for the next 6 weeks track all the foods you eat on your phone, and do your own little experiment to see what amount your true maintenance is before you even start cutting calories. So then 6 weeks later cut 10 or 20% off that amount to lose the weight at a healthy sustainable amount.
If you want help in how to do a metablic reset/eating more then join the Eat more to weight less. There is some awesome information there. Huge plug for this group! They have turned peoples lives around there!! Also check out the roadmap thread for some help too.
Any questions fire away!
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Ive been semi-using adams method. ... I simply eyeball my calories and eat primarily chicken, fish, and lean beef steaks, brown rice and veggies. .. but I leave a couple hundred calories underneath my target for extra items like sugary sauces or the occasional desert.
I find its much easier to stay on a diet like this and also that I see no real difference in results by adding in a sugary/fatty treat now and then as long as im under my caloric limit.
I utilize this approach as well, except I've completely jettisoned the starchy carbs from my regular diet, no rice/pasta/bread or potatoes. I've found doing so gives one a lot more wiggle room when it comes to that piece of cake or bowl of ice cream
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http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/scientific-method-to-weight-loss-20110722-1hryb.html
Scientific method to weight loss
Date
July 22, 2011
The room isn't much to look at. Small and plain, with a single bed, a chair, a tiny refrigerator, a sink and a toilet.
But the spartan appearance is deceiving.
This "metabolic chamber" at the UNC Nutrition Research Institute has cost almost $1 million to build and maintain. It's the newest and most sensitive of 17 such research tools in the world, according to Dr Steven Zeisel, the institute's director.
Institute scientists hope the chamber will help them unlock the secrets of human metabolism and provide answers for people who struggle to control their weight.
By monitoring volunteers who stay overnight in the 2.4-metre-by-3.4-metre space, researchers hope to identify foods, activity levels and genes that affect human metabolism. With that, they'll be able to prescribe customised diets and exercise plans that are more likely to work for specific people.
"Nowadays people jump around from diet to diet, and most of the time it doesn't work. Then they get discouraged and maybe just give up," said Karen Corbin, a dietitian and research fellow at the institute. "But once you know for sure what's going to work for someone, and they follow your recommendation and see a result, they're going to be more motivated to stick to it."
The nutrition institute is housed at the North Carolina Research Campus, a $US1.5 billion ($1.4 billion) biotechnology complex. The campus is a collaboration of eight North Carolina universities to promote research in the areas of health and nutrition.
Collaboration among nutritionists, plant biologists and exercise scientists on the same campus enhances the research process, Corbin said.
"There is something to be said for having everybody here. It's easy to get together and talk and say 'Hey, I have this idea. What do you think?'"
Earlier this year, researchers from UNC and Appalachian State published results from the first study using the metabolic chamber. It found that 10 men who exercised vigorously for 45 minutes in the morning continued to burn calories over the next 14 hours.
Proof that an "after-burn" exists could motivate people to exercise intensely enough to get the added benefit, Corbin said.
Currently, the chamber is being used to study whether black pepper increases metabolism. If it does, look for the sponsoring spice company to tout weight-loss enhancing properties.
Institute researchers will work with other food companies and pharmaceutical manufacturers as they try to increase understanding of the role of diet and activity in normal brain development, cancer prevention and the treatment of obesity.
"Everyone's trying to develop products that help people lose weight," said Andrew Swick, director of obesity and eating disorders research at the institute.
"The ultimate goal is individualised nutrition," he said. "We'd love to be able to tell people, 'You're more likely to lose weight by exercising' or 'you're more likely to lose weight by eating this'. We'd like to be able to make recommendations individually based on somebody's genetics."
So far, about 50 volunteers have spent time in the metabolic chamber.
On a recent day, a 50-something woman sat inside the soundproof space, watching a movie on a laptop computer. In an outer room, a computer displayed measurements of the amount oxygen she had consumed, carbon dioxide emitted and calories burned.
She is one of 18 postmenopausal women being monitored for the pepper study. Animal studies suggest that black pepper increases metabolism. Anecdotally, people get hot when they eat pepper, which could mean they burn more calories. But this is the first human study of the hypothesis, Swick said.
Research subjects stay in the chamber for about 24 hours on two occasions, a week apart. During one stay, they eat food made with pepper. During the other stay, they eat food without pepper.
Although they eat the same foods, they get different amounts. "Some people burn less calories per pound [kilo]. Some people burn more calories per pound," Swick said. "We have to feed them an exact amount of calories based on their energy needs."
For example, one woman required 1550 calories while another needed 2150.
In the institute's "metabolic kitchen", cooks prepare food to order, with the exact number of calories, proteins, carbohydrates and fats prescribed by researchers.
Meals are delivered to the chamber in a pass-through between double doors that prevent air from escaping. Subjects must eat their meals at specific times and finish in a certain amount of time. They get up every hour to stretch, and they're not allowed to sleep, except at night-time, because that would decrease their metabolism and skew the study results.
At the end of the study, Swick said, "We'll find out whether black pepper increases metabolic rate or not ... We'll be able to detect less than a 100-calorie difference (per day)."
That's a small amount, but it adds up over time.
"If you overeat by 100 calories per day, you would gain 10 [4.54 kg] a year," Swick said. "If we can find three or four things that raise your calorie requirements and your energy expenditure by 50 to 100 calories (per day), that would be huge."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/scientific-method-to-weight-loss-20110722-1hryb.html#ixzz2ssLsHU7q
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Macros for yesterday which included a 14 ounce Sous Vide Denver Steak and Deep Fried Crispy Potatoes that I made.
2,379-Calories 275-Carbs 83-Fat 131-Protein Fiber-21
Fuck! I love the way you name your food. Makes it sound so down appetizing. With me it's always chicken/rice, beef/potatoes, fish/pasta. It's only when I eat out that I get to have fancy name food and it's more like: Jumbo Jack, Bacon Western Cheeseburger, Big Mac...
Seriously, I want to be your best friend.
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BTW, don't think I don't go crazy sometimes. Because it's Sunday I had six fried eggs and bread and in the last minute I just said "fuck it" and left in all the yokes. That's right. ALL the yokes. Made it nice and runny so I could dip my bread in it.
Living large in Hawaii.
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Increasing metabolic rate is a real thing and there are many things that can enable one to do this.
I came across an interesting post the other day:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/919536-get-your-metabolic-rate-tested-my-metabolic-reset-story?hl=metabolism+reset
Hi
From October through to January I decreased my calories by a couple of hundred and at the same time upped my exercise. I am 5 foot 2. I have been at scale goal weight since last August. Since then I have been recomposing, ie losing fat and centimeters. I retain muscle mass easily as I have the genetics for it.
I thought I was adequatly fueling my body eating between 1700 - 1950 calories for those 3 and a half months but I was in for a huge shock when I got my resting metabolic rate tested. It was just 875. My body was in semi-starvation (survivol mode) according the the exercise physiologist. That is why my metaboic rate lowered drastically because i was not fueling myself properly so it slows way down in order to survive.
Anyway thanks to the Eat more to Weight less group I was reading up about doing a metabolic reset. The exercise physiologist suggested eating 10 - 20% more than I was and gave me some great advice concerning exercise and nutrition. I decided to do my own little experiment. Since the 2nd of February I decided to eat more than my TDEE. I wanted to see just how much I could eat without gaining weight. So I started off eating mid 2500's and then most of the time for the past 5 weeks I have been eating mid to high 2000 calories !! In that time I have put on roughly half to 1 kg in weight I think. From August till end of January my weight was in the range of 57.5 - 59.5 kg and now its in the 58 - 59.7 range for the last couple of weeks.
Yesterday I had a retest of my resting metabolic rate. (RMR) it was 1497. Originally when i had it tested it was just 875 and the man said it should be around the 1350 mark. So I am absolutely thrilled that I have increased my RMR by over 600 calories !!! Wow I couldn't believe it. My body fat % is 22.5%. I'm working towards high teens perhaps 18 - 20% body fat. Also I'm above average in the general population for my age and height :D I'm more like in the athletic range for body composition now.
I am now in the process of trying to find my true TDEE. I have reduced my calories by a few hundred and depending on activity levels I am going to be eating between 2200 - 2700. I will experiment at this level for the next 6 weeks to see if I can stabilise at this range. I think I have pretty much stabilized right now but I will give it a good 6 weeks weeks eating at this amount.
I told the exercise physiologist I still want to cut. I want to lose more off my tummy area. I want a more defined tummy. He believes I can lose the fat eating 2200-2300 calories. I got some great tips in the Eat more to Weight less group and have decided that in 6 weeks time or once i am sure my weight has stablised when im figuring out my TDEE I will cut first down to 2,300 weekly average and see how I go losing at that for a month. Then if its too high an amount still I'll reduce down 100 calories till I hit my sweet spot. So out of all this it appears I do need to eat above the 2000 calorie mark to lose the fat and not f*** up my metabolic rate. It all depends on my exercise levels. If Im heaviily exercising I have to adequately fuel myself so that I'm not cutting any higher than 10 - 15% off my TDEE.
I highly recommend getting your RMR tested. If its plummeted you can fix it doing a metabolic reset eating at TDEE, you will put on a little bit of weight however once you stablize and are ready to diet again you will then be able to eat more when you go to lose the weight. It is also much more life sustainable.
Also another tip. According to katch mcardle my estimated rmr is just 1200 calories now if I went by that figure i would be 300 calories out. Also the TDEE is just an estimate too. According to TDEE it says I should maintain on 2100. Nope I can maintain on a lot higher than that. Its all just a starting point you really need to do your own experiment, track what you eat over a time period and see what amount works for you. ie what you can maintain on, what is your cutting sweet spot.
If you are new and just started your diet. If I were you for the next 6 weeks track all the foods you eat on your phone, and do your own little experiment to see what amount your true maintenance is before you even start cutting calories. So then 6 weeks later cut 10 or 20% off that amount to lose the weight at a healthy sustainable amount.
If you want help in how to do a metablic reset/eating more then join the Eat more to weight less. There is some awesome information there. Huge plug for this group! They have turned peoples lives around there!! Also check out the roadmap thread for some help too.
Any questions fire away!
blinding red isn't going to enhance this article one bit.
One / two personal cases? That is not enough to prove that metabolic damage exists...
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Adonis, you need to debate this man:
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I feel like shit if I eat shit.
shitty nutrients = poor brain/body function.
fuck dis.
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this is an optimal microwave meal. tastes great and 20g protein
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Michael-Angelo-s-Meat-Lasagna-32-oz/19399838
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One born every minute.
You sir are a moron.... Try getting off TA's nuts.... Yu have been owned about thirty times in this thread
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You sir are a moron.... Try getting off TA's nuts.... Yu have been owned about thirty times in this thread
LOL. He gets owned in every thread where he picks a fight. He just doesn't catch on. Hence the "Simple".
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Increasing metabolic rate is a real thing and there are many things that can enable one to do this.
I came across an interesting post the other day:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/919536-get-your-metabolic-rate-tested-my-metabolic-reset-story?hl=metabolism+reset
Hi
From October through to January I decreased my calories by a couple of hundred and at the same time upped my exercise. I am 5 foot 2. I have been at scale goal weight since last August. Since then I have been recomposing, ie losing fat and centimeters. I retain muscle mass easily as I have the genetics for it.
I thought I was adequatly fueling my body eating between 1700 - 1950 calories for those 3 and a half months but I was in for a huge shock when I got my resting metabolic rate tested. It was just 875. My body was in semi-starvation (survivol mode) according the the exercise physiologist. That is why my metaboic rate lowered drastically because i was not fueling myself properly so it slows way down in order to survive.
Anyway thanks to the Eat more to Weight less group I was reading up about doing a metabolic reset. The exercise physiologist suggested eating 10 - 20% more than I was and gave me some great advice concerning exercise and nutrition. I decided to do my own little experiment. Since the 2nd of February I decided to eat more than my TDEE. I wanted to see just how much I could eat without gaining weight. So I started off eating mid 2500's and then most of the time for the past 5 weeks I have been eating mid to high 2000 calories !! In that time I have put on roughly half to 1 kg in weight I think. From August till end of January my weight was in the range of 57.5 - 59.5 kg and now its in the 58 - 59.7 range for the last couple of weeks.
Yesterday I had a retest of my resting metabolic rate. (RMR) it was 1497. Originally when i had it tested it was just 875 and the man said it should be around the 1350 mark. So I am absolutely thrilled that I have increased my RMR by over 600 calories !!! Wow I couldn't believe it. My body fat % is 22.5%. I'm working towards high teens perhaps 18 - 20% body fat. Also I'm above average in the general population for my age and height :D I'm more like in the athletic range for body composition now.
I am now in the process of trying to find my true TDEE. I have reduced my calories by a few hundred and depending on activity levels I am going to be eating between 2200 - 2700. I will experiment at this level for the next 6 weeks to see if I can stabilise at this range. I think I have pretty much stabilized right now but I will give it a good 6 weeks weeks eating at this amount.
I told the exercise physiologist I still want to cut. I want to lose more off my tummy area. I want a more defined tummy. He believes I can lose the fat eating 2200-2300 calories. I got some great tips in the Eat more to Weight less group and have decided that in 6 weeks time or once i am sure my weight has stablised when im figuring out my TDEE I will cut first down to 2,300 weekly average and see how I go losing at that for a month. Then if its too high an amount still I'll reduce down 100 calories till I hit my sweet spot. So out of all this it appears I do need to eat above the 2000 calorie mark to lose the fat and not f*** up my metabolic rate. It all depends on my exercise levels. If Im heaviily exercising I have to adequately fuel myself so that I'm not cutting any higher than 10 - 15% off my TDEE.
I highly recommend getting your RMR tested. If its plummeted you can fix it doing a metabolic reset eating at TDEE, you will put on a little bit of weight however once you stablize and are ready to diet again you will then be able to eat more when you go to lose the weight. It is also much more life sustainable.
Also another tip. According to katch mcardle my estimated rmr is just 1200 calories now if I went by that figure i would be 300 calories out. Also the TDEE is just an estimate too. According to TDEE it says I should maintain on 2100. Nope I can maintain on a lot higher than that. Its all just a starting point you really need to do your own experiment, track what you eat over a time period and see what amount works for you. ie what you can maintain on, what is your cutting sweet spot.
If you are new and just started your diet. If I were you for the next 6 weeks track all the foods you eat on your phone, and do your own little experiment to see what amount your true maintenance is before you even start cutting calories. So then 6 weeks later cut 10 or 20% off that amount to lose the weight at a healthy sustainable amount.
If you want help in how to do a metablic reset/eating more then join the Eat more to weight less. There is some awesome information there. Huge plug for this group! They have turned peoples lives around there!! Also check out the roadmap thread for some help too.
Any questions fire away!
Body fat 22% working towards 20% ::)
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ta mentions results in the thread title
what results ???
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ta mentions results in the thread title
what results ???
180 pounds at 7- 8% bodyfat. All that on 2500 calories/day. Eat whatever you want.
Don't ask for pics.
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LOL. He gets owned in every thread where he picks a fight. He just doesn't catch on. Hence the "Simple".
Owned?
Two people who do pretty much the same thing except he counts calories and I don't.
He thinks my idea is dumb and I think he's anal.
No winners and losers here, just two people with different opinions.
Although I look way better than he does, so I will stick with what Im doing thanks.
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180 pounds at 7- 8% bodyfat. All that on 2500 calories/day. Eat whatever you want.
Don't ask for pics.
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its hillarious, im supernatural, have to really almost kill myself starving and eat clean at almost all time to be 6%, less calories than that, do cardio, lift almost every day, but apparently its possible with more cals, no cardio and no supps.
haha brate "dont ask for pics"
the internet is a playground for many a bullshit artist, but the fallback, whrre it stops,is when it comes to pics.
lay norton not credible,he looks bad year round.
adonis, last pics from last millenium.not credible.neither was it contest shape at the "best"(but looked good)
meanwhile, i look the same year in year out.
theres nothing to add ,really.
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;D
its hillarious, im supernatural, have to really almost kill myself starving and eat clean at almost all time to be 6%, less calories than that, do cardio, lift almost every day, but apparently its possible with more cals, no cardio and no supps.
haha brate "dont ask for pics"
the internet is a playground for many a bullshit artist, but the fallback, whrre it stops,is when it comes to pics.
lay norton not credible,he looks bad year round.
adonis, last pics from last millenium.not credible.neither was it contest shape at the "best"(but looked good)
meanwhile, i look the same year in year out.
theres nothing to add ,really.
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These guys dont know what being in shape is, they think 10% is shredded and eating an hour late is starving.
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These guys dont know what being in shape is, they think 10% is shredded and eating an hour late is starving.
yes fucking hell, every time i get bit slipping, as in ,you know, going bit lenient on diet, sometimes alc at weekends makes for heavy price indeed, then eating out more often(yes do this and can add up lol), even to myself, i tell, its "easy" to get back.
but only when i realy try to get back,i realize in shock how hard it realy is and how deluded i been with myself.
its hard as hell, theres simply no other term, theres realy nothing nice to it ecxept the results in the mirror,the starvation is ridiculous, even after the mealsm straught after the bloodsugar feels low,the hunger feeling is always with you.
i know, overdo the starving at times, but anybody who wants to get there will have to do something similiar to me.
theres no easy way out, if its sounds too good, it is.
being faily lean is one thing, being shredded is other sport.not just other league,its other sport.
its just not happening on cakes and bisquits every day.and its not happening on 2500cals with no cardio either.
we have behemonts , monsters in the gym, on doses that id be afraid to even look at, they dont eat 2500cals of clean food daily to get shredded.
just to put this into perspective.
neither will this bisquit dieting do any good for more fatter ppl, if anything,its a way to eat when alreayd all the way lean and deliberately being lazy.
200gramms of carbs with 50or more being lain sugars with additional 90gramms of fats will not give a shredded phsysique.
hell fuck no,not happening.
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Whats the point of this thread if there are no pics?
Even your doctor wont care about your daily macros unless you are diabetic.
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I miss Galeniko. Whatever happened to that guy? ???