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Title: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 13, 2014, 05:19:37 AM
IF it becomes legal, in the state you live at, will you be interested in smoking it "occasionally"....

 will you see that possibility  ?




WoooSSSHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 13, 2014, 05:27:05 AM
No, everybody I know that smokes it ends up with issues of laziness or depression
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: CalvinH on March 13, 2014, 05:28:15 AM
Nah not for me.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Marty Champions on March 13, 2014, 05:30:04 AM
if you have trouble maintaining happyness sober then you will be dependent upon marijuana unless you develop tactics
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Grape Ape on March 13, 2014, 05:37:27 AM
Never did much of anything for me, so it's not illegality that's stopping me.

Ever 5 years or so I will do a mushroom trip, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: phreak on March 13, 2014, 05:47:06 AM
It's been de facto legal here for decades, and I haven't toked in the past 10 years.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Man of Steel on March 13, 2014, 05:49:21 AM
Not me.  I'm already excellent at being a vegetable on the couch and I'm always hungry.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Bertha Butt on March 13, 2014, 05:53:53 AM
It's been de facto legal here for decades, and I haven't toked in the past 10 years.
Are we still going to bake our own gluten free space cake?
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: phreak on March 13, 2014, 05:57:44 AM
Are we still going to bake our own gluten free space cake?
IIFYM

(If It Fits Your Marihuana)
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Knooger on March 13, 2014, 06:46:25 AM
Yes, but I'm mostly looking forward to rape becoming legal.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: alabama ftw on March 13, 2014, 06:51:14 AM
Nope, just look what pot did to Wiggs.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Tito24 on March 13, 2014, 06:54:27 AM
im more from the drugs that give me loads of energy and euphoria
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Knooger on March 13, 2014, 07:03:38 AM
im more from the drugs that give me loads of energy and euphoria

Fucking coke heads.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 07:11:50 AM
In This Thread: adults who get fucked up from taking a hit off a marijuana cigarette. Plus adults who know a friend of a friend who used a marijuana once and ended up on welfare.

Don't get too wild, boys! We don't want to fill up that 2014 death pool. Stay safe!
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Tedim on March 13, 2014, 07:20:08 AM
NO...I will not use, but would grow and distribute. Hypocritical? I don't think so, but some might think so.....
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: _bruce_ on March 13, 2014, 07:21:55 AM
It's good if your know how to use it.
Used every day to just "zone out" will make you a dummy.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: alabama ftw on March 13, 2014, 07:25:46 AM
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Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 13, 2014, 07:29:32 AM
No, most of the pot heads I knew growing up had no ambition. Maybe partially due to marijuana use. As they got older they all had this slurred speech affect. I know I'm not imagining it. I never read anything about this but it seemed to have some kind of neurological effect on these long time users. I know fans of pot will say how good it is for you and what I wrote is bull shit.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Tapeworm on March 13, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
No.  I get the paranoia.  :(  But it should be legal anyway since drug laws are bullshit.  I've yet to hear a good explanation why an otherwise law abiding adult shouldn't be allowed to make his own informed decision about drug use.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 08:01:56 AM
No, most of the pot heads I knew growing up had no ambition. Maybe partially due to marijuana use. As they got older they all had this slurred speech affect. I know I'm not imagining it. I never read anything about this but it seemed to have some kind of neurological effect on these long time users. I know fans of pot will say how good it is for you and what I wrote is bull shit.

lol everyone's got a story about friends of friends who tried a marijuana and never amounted to anything. Could you perhaps consider that these people were losers and gravitated towards smoking weed all day? People always want to believe that it's something else that's the problem, never the person. People vilify drugs and activities but never take ownership of their actions.

I know people that do coke, drink, play video games, jack off all day, smoke weed and are doctors, lawyers, realtors, entrepreneurs, etc. In BC it's a cultural norm to kick back and maybe take a puff in the evening after a hard day's work. It's just like cracking a beer in the evening. You don't see people on the streets here begging to suck a dick for a "hit" of marijuana. Only losers let something like marijuana "destroy" their lives. Just like how people let junk food ruin their lives, video games, alcohol, etc.

Marijuana doesn't turn people into losers. Losers gravitate towards it. Just like schmoes gravitate towards bodybuilding. I love lifting and looking good, but I don't get a boner when I see a guy in the gym with nice, broad shoulders and a small waist. If someone can let an innocuous plant like marijuana RUIN their lives, it wasn't the substance that was at fault. It was the person who's clearly weak of mind, will and ambition.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 13, 2014, 08:09:44 AM
lol everyone's got a story about friends of friends who tried a marijuana and never amounted to anything. Could you perhaps consider that these people were losers and gravitated towards smoking weed all day? People always want to believe that it's something else that's the problem, never the person. People vilify drugs and activities but never take ownership of their actions.

I know people that do coke, drink, play video games, jack off all day, smoke weed and are doctors, lawyers, realtors, entrepreneurs, etc. In BC it's a cultural norm to kick back and maybe take a puff in the evening after a hard day's work. It's just like cracking a beer in the evening. You don't see people on the streets here begging to suck a dick for a "hit" of marijuana. Only losers let something like marijuana "destroy" their lives. Just like how people let junk food ruin their lives, video games, alcohol, etc.

Marijuana doesn't turn people into losers. Losers gravitate towards it. Just like schmoes gravitate towards bodybuilding. I love lifting and looking good, but I don't get a boner when I see a guy in the gym with nice, broad shoulders and a small waist. If someone can let an innocuous plant like marijuana RUIN their lives, it wasn't the substance that was at fault. It was the person who's clearly weak of mind, will and ambition.

Sound like you're trying to rationalize your pot use. Who is this lazy doctor who plays video games all day, smokes dope and jerks off all day?  It almost sounds like the guy who used heroin for 10 years and quit and now runs marathons. It's like a smoker who says his uncle smoked cigarettes since he was 14 to his death at 80. It's a risk to health and these examples outside the bell curve is delusional rationalization.  Pot does contribute to for a lack of a better term the pot head lack of ambition. So smoke your pot and become a doctor, engineer or physicist.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 13, 2014, 08:19:49 AM
No.  I get the paranoia.  :(  But it should be legal anyway since drug laws are bullshit.  I've yet to hear a good explanation why an otherwise law abiding adult shouldn't be allowed to make his own informed decision about drug use.

Ah yes....the paranoia.  Same here...despise weed. Havent smoked in 30 years
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 13, 2014, 08:24:20 AM
In This Thread: adults who get fucked up from taking a hit off a marijuana cigarette. Plus adults who know a friend of a friend who used a marijuana once and ended up on welfare.

Don't get too wild, boys! We don't want to fill up that 2014 death pool. Stay safe!

sativas are the most motivational drug I have ever tried, amp user in the past.

If you can't handle a few bong hits then you have some issues you need resolved.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 08:29:36 AM
Sound like you're trying to rationalize your pot use. Who is this lazy doctor who plays video games all day, smokes dope and jerks off all day?  It almost sounds like the guy who used heroin for 10 years and quit and now runs marathons. It's like a smoker who says his uncle smoked cigarettes since he was 14 to his death at 80. It's a risk to health and these examples outside the bell curve is delusional rationalization.  Pot does contribute to for a lack of a better term the pot head lack of ambition. So smoke your pot and become a doctor, engineer or physicist.

Your username is very apt. You're definitely set in your ways, but I don't mind owning you nonetheless. ::)

You sound like the many fearful retards who speak in hyperbole, take any negative association and then conflate all of the risks and present them as facts. Facts which are irrefutable and 100% inevitable. It's really sad. This is nothing more than your opinion, based off of ill conceived perceptions and then spun as though it is an unavoidable consequence for dancing with the devil's weed. Ohh, boogey boogey, the devil's weed is gonna get me! Ahh. The bank's going to take my house and I'm going to sit in my basement all day hitting the bong and playing a used Sega Genesis I picked up at a flea market because oldtimer1 said so!

You do realize how quickly active cannabinoids are metabolized, right? After a few hours at most, the effects have completely worn off. Even if someone spent a couple hours couch locked and balls deep in a family-sized bag of Munchies, they'll shake it off and return to complete normalcy after that. If that's the type of activity that someone's predisposed to, they'd simply replace marijuana with another vice like World of Warcraft, junk food, other loser activities or recreational drugs. It doesn't mean that smoking marijuana will turn you into a loser.

It sounds like you're in a precarious position. You use no drugs, yet you're so blatantly ignorant and stupid with nothing to blame it on. If I were you, I'd just say you smoked some marijuanas and that's why you speak such lunacy. Blame it on something else, just like other people do. It's not your fault, it's someone else's. That's how it goes, right? Take no ownership or responsibility for your actions.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 13, 2014, 08:30:25 AM
sativas are the most motivational drug I have ever tried, amp user in the past.

If you can't handle a few bong hits then you have some issues you need resolved.

Not really...it's all in how you are wired. I can handle E, coke, percs without blinking. Im not a "downer" type person....I find them boring and annoying
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: phreak on March 13, 2014, 08:37:35 AM
Your username is very apt. You're definitely set in your ways, but I don't mind owning you nonetheless. ::)

You sound like the many fearful retards who speak in hyperbole, take any negative association and then conflate all of the risks and present them as facts. Facts which are irrefutable and 100% inevitable. It's really sad. This is nothing more than your opinion, based off of ill conceived perceptions and then spun as though it is an unavoidable consequence for dancing with the devil's weed. Ohh, boogey boogey, the devil's weed is gonna get me! Ahh. The bank's going to take my house and I'm going to sit in my basement all day hitting the bong and playing a used Sega Genesis I picked up at a flea market because oldtimer1 said so!

You do realize how quickly active cannabinoids are metabolized, right? After a few hours at most, the effects have completely worn off. Even if someone spent a couple hours couch locked and balls deep in a family-sized bag of Munchies, they'll shake it off and return to complete normalcy after that. If that's the type of activity that someone's predisposed to, they'd simply replace marijuana with another vice like World of Warcraft, junk food, other loser activities or recreational drugs. It doesn't mean that smoking marijuana will turn you into a loser.

It sounds like you're in a precarious position. You use no drugs, yet you're so blatantly ignorant and stupid with nothing to blame it on. If I were you, I'd just say you smoked some marijuanas and that's why you speak such lunacy. Blame it on something else, just like other people do. It's not your fault, it's someone else's. That's how it goes, right? Take no ownership or responsibility for your actions.

Sooo... Are you saying when Reefer Madness was first shown in 1936, Oldtimer1 was the old man working the projector?
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: phreak on March 13, 2014, 08:40:45 AM
Sound like you're trying to rationalize your pot use. Who is this lazy doctor who plays video games all day, smokes dope and jerks off all day?  It almost sounds like the guy who used heroin for 10 years and quit and now runs marathons. It's like a smoker who says his uncle smoked cigarettes since he was 14 to his death at 80. It's a risk to health and these examples outside the bell curve is delusional rationalization.  Pot does contribute to for a lack of a better term the pot head lack of ambition. So smoke your pot and become a doctor, engineer or physicist.
Well I stand by what he said, and I don't use it. He's completely right, you put the cart before the horse: Losers gonna lose.

Yes, weed is omnipresent in ghettos filled with losers. Guess what: it is also omnipresent in college dorm rooms. You know, those loser college kids who will amount to nothing with their degrees and shit.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 08:41:14 AM
Sooo... Are you saying when Reefer Madness was first shown in 1936, Oldtimer1 was the old man working the projector?

More or less. ;D

(http://www.medibeauty.biz/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Wizard.jpg)

oldtimer1 ^^
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 13, 2014, 09:23:13 AM
Not really...it's all in how you are wired. I can handle E, coke, percs without blinking. Im not a "downer" type person....I find them boring and annoying

Oh it is, you see it doesn't matter how you are wired you are abnormal. For example if I line 100 people up give them amphetamine I predict they will all be energetic etc. Some may become paranoid some become excited and hypomanic, that is the indivdual response, the pharmacokinetics are the same. Sativa's are energizing, they improve dopaminergic tone, paranoia is too much dopamine.

Yes you don't like downers but they still tranquilize you, regardless of your feeling about the effects, some like being sedated you do not.

It's not really as complex as indivdual neurochemistry, preference for drugged states is important.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 13, 2014, 09:24:54 AM
Sooo... Are you saying when Reefer Madness was first shown in 1936, Oldtimer1 was the old man working the projector?

MJ lets you sink in a comteplative truthful state. We is no more mind altering then a cup of coffee, it's a fact.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 09:38:30 AM
Necrosis has the right idea. Some people could smoke weed a million times and it wouldn't resonate with them (no pun intended). But for some it can be a life changing circumstance.

I feel bad for people who can't experience things the same way that habitual users do. I don't wish that everyone and their mother smokes a pound a day, but even just trying it a few times can really help people to see things in a different perception, one which they may never experience otherwise. This is why we should not and cannot regulate what psychoactive substances people wish to experience in the privacy of their home.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: galeniko on March 13, 2014, 10:40:55 AM
(http://cdn.cannabisclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/before-and-after-marijuana.jpg)
shpould have used a sterile marijuana needle.

Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: galeniko on March 13, 2014, 10:46:18 AM
Sound like you're trying to rationalize your pot use. Who is this lazy doctor who plays video games all day, smokes dope and jerks off all day?  It almost sounds like the guy who used heroin for 10 years and quit and now runs marathons. It's like a smoker who says his uncle smoked cigarettes since he was 14 to his death at 80. It's a risk to health and these examples outside the bell curve is delusional rationalization.  Pot does contribute to for a lack of a better term the pot head lack of ambition. So smoke your pot and become a doctor, engineer or physicist.
i kinda agre with your stance, but man, on a hot summer afternoon or mild evening at the beach, being stoned to oblivion with a girl laying there, say just 1 or 2 times in 1 summer, is amongst the best things imagineable.


but habitual weed smokers i dont like so much, many are exactly as youve described them.

Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: no one on March 13, 2014, 10:50:38 AM

as if something being illegal has ever kept me from doing it. lol

im w imako- i saw what it did to guys i knew who were heavy smokers in terms of drive motivation and intelligence and i passed on that shit.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: bigmc on March 13, 2014, 10:57:38 AM
as if something being illegal has ever kept me from doing it. lol

im w imako- i saw what it did to guys i knew who were heavy smokers in terms of drive motivation and intelligence and i passed on that shit.

this

i dont like being stoned would rather be wired
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Henda on March 13, 2014, 10:58:32 AM
No.
Most people i know who smoke weed daily are lazy cu nts who are also dirty scruffy bastards with untidy stinking houses and nothing to their name due to their weed habit.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 11:03:07 AM
but habitual weed smokers i dont like so much, many are exactly as youve described them.

There are two kinds of habitual smokers - one group, a bunch of loser fucks who scrawl "420" and marijuana leafs on everything from bathroom stalls to park benches. And the other group of people who simply happen to smoke weed on a regular occasion but don't let that one activity define them. I fall into the latter group. I work, play and live a completely satisfying life outside of marijuana. I just happen to smoke it every now and again and took a bit of time to educate myself on the subject so I don't sound like an imbecile if the discussion comes up.

I hate stoner fucks who walk around with Bob Marley and Pink Floyd t-shirts talking about how the man is trying to control the population and take away a plant that can cure cancer and end world hunger. It dilutes the efforts of hard working and respectable adults that are trying to bring education and awareness to this plant. People like me want objective, quantifiable and verifiable scientific studies to take place and controlled substance laws which are created in alignment to these scientific observations. But unfortunately, it's the imbeciles that stand out and draw attention. And lawmakers point to these dolts anytime a bill is introduced to go back on the failed prohibition laws. I'm just glad that individual states are beginning to legalize it and show that it can be regulated and taxed without the sky falling down.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: calfzilla on March 13, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
No
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 12:13:58 PM
No

Bingo!

People who gave no shits before will continue to give no shits if it's ever legalized. The rube that fear mongers like to belt out is that everyone's going to start blazing their brains out if it's legalized. But I think at most, some curious people may try it once or twice and confirm that it's not for them and never use it again. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: galeniko on March 13, 2014, 01:43:59 PM
some pl in dire need to widen their horizon once in a while :D
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 13, 2014, 02:00:49 PM
No.
Most people i know who smoke weed daily are lazy cu nts who are also dirty scruffy bastards with untidy stinking houses and nothing to their name due to their weed habit.


It relaxes you hence it can make one seem lazy. It's all individual.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Wiggs on March 13, 2014, 02:04:05 PM
Weed, like alcohol, food and everything else is meant in moderation. A 24/7 pothead gives it a bad rep. Just like an "alchie" gives booze a bad rep. It's no coincidence the legality is being pushed and passing now. Things are bad and will get much worse and they want the people sedated and passive. Marijuana will accomplish this task. To the people, they are getting what they want.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on March 13, 2014, 02:04:40 PM
No..... Smoking anything is foolish.

Maybe I'd try brownies or something like that
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: sync pulse on March 13, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
I used to smoke it.  I have discovered that I have developed an allergy to it.  So I will probably never smoke it again.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: honest on March 13, 2014, 02:20:04 PM
No, everybody I know that smokes it ends up with issues of laziness or depression

I second that, robs them of their drive to do anything. I want to live everyday of my life not just sit around stoned.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 02:24:41 PM
I second that, robs them of their drive to do anything. I want to live everyday of my life not just sit around stoned.

What about people who puff before doing things?

I don't know where everyone else is from, but look at places like British Columbia and Denver, Colorado. Completely outdoorsy, very laid back culture (not to be confused with lazy) and very social. Any time I go hiking (which is what we do everyday in the spring and summer) you can smell it wafting in the air everywhere. I don't think everyone hiking the mountains could be classified as lazy or undriven.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: scottt on March 13, 2014, 02:25:06 PM
Weed, like alcohol, food and everything else is meant in moderation. A 24/7 pothead gives it a bad rep. Just like an "alchie" gives booze a bad rep. It's no coincidence the legality is being pushed and passing now. Things are bad and will get much worse and they want the people sedated and passive. Marijuana will accomplish this task. To the people, they are getting what they want.
exactly
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Wolfox on March 13, 2014, 02:31:15 PM
As a kid i used to get high almost everyday. Haven't blazed in probably over a decade. Cant lie tho...im interested in some of this new weed that's supposed to be wowzers.

Id blaze with a chick but not with dudes. The later seems kinda gay now that im older.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 13, 2014, 05:12:27 PM


You do realize how quickly active cannabinoids are metabolized, right? After a few hours at most, the effects have completely worn off. Even if someone spent a couple hours couch locked and balls deep in a family-sized bag of Munchies, they'll shake it off and return to complete normalcy after that.

I feel that there are some mental after effects which last much longer than the acute intoxication. If you smoke once daily every day you are somewhat affected round the clock. Do you disagree?
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: The Scott on March 13, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
IF it becomes legal, in the state you live at, will you be interested in smoking it "occasionally"....

 will you see that possibility  ?




WoooSSSHHHHHHH

No way.  Only a pussy would want to alter their reality instead of actually doing something to change it for the better.  Dopers are pussies.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: polychronopolous on March 13, 2014, 07:56:45 PM
i kinda agre with your stance, but man, on a hot summer afternoon or mild evening at the beach, being stoned to oblivion with a girl laying there, say just 1 or 2 times in 1 summer, is amongst the best things imagineable.


but habitual weed smokers i dont like so much, many are exactly as youve described them.



Before even reading this post I was about to comment, the only time I even care for a toke or two is floating the river or something like that on a hot summer day.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: ChristopherA on March 13, 2014, 08:34:56 PM
sativas are the most motivational drug I have ever tried, amp user in the past.

If you can't handle a few bong hits then you have some issues you need resolved.
X2. Bunch of slack jawed fag gots up in this thread.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 13, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
I feel that there are some mental after effects which last much longer than the acute intoxication. If you smoke once daily every day you are somewhat affected round the clock. Do you disagree?

It definitely does.... makes me feel "foggy" for 2-3 days after.  

I think the reason weed can be "dangerous" is because you can do it all day, everyday and still get by.  Its easy to fall into that trap of smoking first thing in the morning and staying high all day.  Nobody starts drinking at 9am except for hardcore alcoholics....but wake-n-bake is pretty common.  And you can live a decent life like this, but definitely not operate at 100%.

I absolutely LOVE smoking, especially preworkout.  Incredible pumps and mind-muscle connection.  But I have trouble using it in moderation so I usually abstain completely
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 13, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
I feel that there are some mental after effects which last much longer than the acute intoxication. If you smoke once daily every day you are somewhat affected round the clock. Do you disagree?

I think some people are affected pretty adversely, but others can puff and you'd never know. I have naturally dark skin and eyes so even if I just puff, people can't tell. I'm completely functional, just a bit high. Some people get consumed by it and completely immersed in the experience, absolutely unable to function in public and usually paranoid beyond all belief. Some of those people snap to it shortly after, but some people are left in a haze.

I thankfully don't get this way, probably because of the familiarity with being high and because I don't take more than a few puffs. I think that it's a foreign state of consciousness that some people get lost in, which makes it a very uncomfortable experience. And some people roll with it and explore their consciousness.

I luckily never get burnt out, but I've felt that when I was younger and understand why many people get turned off by those experiences. I can't explain why it fucks some people up like eating a bag of mushrooms, but I wouldn't advocate it for people that respond like that. Myself, I can do a full work day, do errands at home and take care of the family, study for tests and do research papers and essays and get straight A's. I think it's definitely not for everyone.

If someone smokes a joint and gets fucked up in the same way that acid would fuck someone up, they should probably only do it once in a blue moon or not at all. For others, they can puff dusk till dawn and no one would be none the wiser.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dr.chimps on March 13, 2014, 09:17:18 PM
Absolutely!  :)
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: ESFitness on March 13, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
I got my card a while ago.. it's been expired for over 6 months.

some co-workers said it'd help with appetite and sleep. it die neither.

tried Sativa for 'during the day', and hated it. felt like I was stoned, and felt like everybody could tell. lol

tried Indica for nighttime, and hated it.

tried hybrids for nighttime, and hated it.

sex on the indica's was nice though, for some reason.

I remember getting my card, and the first day I took 2 hits of some "trainwreck" at like 10pm and driving home. I was doing 40mph on the freeway thinking 'holy shit.. I'm going too slow', then sped up to 65 and it felt like I was doing 165, then gradually slowed back down to 40.. then back up to 65. such a bad fucking idea.

then a couple days later, I took 1 hit before heading to work. I stopped at AM/PM for coffee, and as I'm mixing my creamer and sugar in my coffee, I realize I'd been staring at my coffee for what felt like 10mins thinking 'shit.. how long have I been standing here.. people are gonna notice me', was probably only there for a minute, but was still a very unpleasant experience.

of about 5-6 different strains, I found the kush, especially the bubblegum/bubba kush stuff the least disagreeable.

luckily, CA parole doesn't test for THC (but I had my card nonetheless).

I'd much rather take a Tylenol-3 or a ML of gbl or something, than smoke weed or drink booze.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: tbombz on March 13, 2014, 10:02:01 PM
I could smoke legallyby purchasing a medical marijuana card for $75... but im not interested in any form of narcotic or intoxicant anymor.   Although i have considered using a bit to help me win 2.5k in a pizza eating challenge.. so if it became legal i may try that.



Not me.  I'm already excellent at being a vegetable on the couch and I'm always hungry.
;D
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: SF1900 on March 13, 2014, 10:04:18 PM
I have never smoked marijuana. Not once. If it becomes legal, I still will have no interest in smoking it.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: phreak on March 14, 2014, 02:00:13 AM
No way.  Only a pussy would want to alter their reality instead of actually doing something to change it for the better.  Dopers are pussies.
Well, some drugs (not usually weed) can show you different realities that were invisible to you before. Which you can then try to attain when sober again. I've had that with both coke and shrooms. Don't use either now, and haven't for over a decade. But it gave me some interesting insights into myself and othersthat I then worked on. So yes, you can see altered reality AND change something in real life.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Costanza on March 14, 2014, 02:04:39 AM
Wish cocaine and MDMA was legal.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 14, 2014, 04:33:49 AM
No way.  Only a pussy would want to alter their reality instead of actually doing something to change it for the better.  Dopers are pussies.

Define reality because I am sure me and you have a different idea. Reality is not working, eating, lifting etc.. it's right now, altering your perception is a useful tool. Only scared morons stay in the box.

You can use drugs to better your life.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 14, 2014, 04:37:15 AM
I have never smoked marijuana. Not once. If it becomes legal, I still will have no interest in smoking it.

You are missing out on a common experience every human should have. We have an endocannabinoid system in our bodies. Only one plant effects it. Pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2014, 07:43:21 AM
Define reality because I am sure me and you have a different idea. Reality is not working, eating, lifting etc.. it's right now, altering your perception is a useful tool. Only scared morons stay in the box.

You can use drugs to better your life.

This is what ultimately led to me experimenting with marijuana and psychedelics in high school. I was always a staunch opponent of any controlled substance unless it was used strictly in a medical application. I was such a blind fool. I don't think everyone should go out and get baked in the park playing ultimate frisbee and living off of welfare, but I also don't think people should write it off so quickly. You could try it, then never try it again. Or you could avoid it all together if you so choose, but not shoot your gums off about it 24/7 as though you're a world-renowned expert on the subject.

People always tell me it would sap my motivation and cause me to never reach the level of accomplishment that I'm capable of. They always tell me I'm way too smart to "do drugs" like marijuana, but then when I tell them I actually have medical marijuana authorization and am a huge supporter they're normally in disbelief. I don't walk around advertising that I am a firm supporter and believer in this plant because I carry myself well. They only look at the idiots that gravitate towards it and think that's all that marijuana advocates amount to. People need to stop looking at the lowest common denominator and using that as their benchmark for judgement. Or perhaps they shouldn't judge so virulently to begin with.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 14, 2014, 07:46:49 AM
"Any state that can be achieved with drugs can also be achieved without drugs" - Timothy Leary
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: phreak on March 14, 2014, 07:47:19 AM
This is what ultimately led to me experimenting with marijuana and psychedelics in high school. I was always a staunch opponent of any controlled substance unless it was used strictly in a medical application. I was such a blind fool. I don't think everyone should go out and get baked in the park playing ultimate frisbee and living off of welfare, but I also don't think people should write it off so quickly. You could try it, then never try it again. Or you could avoid it all together if you so choose, but not shoot your gums off about it 24/7 as though you're a world-renowned expert on the subject.

People always tell me it would sap my motivation and cause me to never reach the level of accomplishment that I'm capable of. They always tell me I'm way too smart to "do drugs" like marijuana, but then when I tell them I actually have medical marijuana authorization and am a huge supporter they're normally in disbelief. I don't walk around advertising that I am a firm supporter and believer in this plant because I carry myself well. They only look at the idiots that gravitate towards it and think that's all that marijuana advocates amount to. People need to stop looking at the lowest common denominator and using that as their benchmark for judgement. Or perhaps they shouldn't judge so virulently to begin with.

Precisely. It's like people saying "I don't like how gays act" when they don't realize most gays don't act that way, and they have already interacted with many a pole smoker without realizing it.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2014, 07:55:32 AM
Precisely. It's like people saying "I don't like how gays act" when they don't realize most gays don't act that way, and they have already interacted with many a pole smoker without realizing it.

lol that's always hilarious. I love it when you can visibly see the homophobes clenching their buttcheeks around gay people, as though they're just going to go on a homosexual rage and buttfuck them in public. I've got a gay friend who works at Starbucks (all the managers are flaming) who laughed at a redneck and told him not to worry, he's not his type. Then gave him a limp wrist and directed him out of his store. ;D
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: The Scott on March 14, 2014, 07:57:40 AM
Define reality because I am sure me and you have a different idea. Reality is not working, eating, lifting etc.. it's right now, altering your perception is a useful tool. Only scared morons stay in the box.

You can use drugs to better your life.

Do as you desire.  You can choose to live in a drug induced self indulgent Matrix and I will stay in the real world and work to make my life better.
No worries.  Thanks! 
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2014, 08:25:07 AM
Do as you desire.  You can choose to live in self indulgent Matrix and I will stay in the real world and work to make my life better.
No worries.  Thanks! 

It sounds like you fear it would change you permanently. It doesn't induce psychosis. The way most people describe it is that they're still themselves (it doesn't induce ego loss like eating a garbage bag full of psychedelic mushrooms), however the way they think is slightly more abstract.

People often scoff at newbie stoners when they sit there all chai-eyed, saying they feel grand epiphanies but are not able to articulate what they're experiencing. You do get a bit of tunnel vision and it can be really hard for non-habitual smokers to talk about their thoughts eloquently and iopenly, especially when there is a bit of memory loss. When people think about others being high, this is what they envision so they write it off as some loser getting high who's incapable of nothing more than just drooling and giggling at some thoughts they can't communicate to others. But there's a lot going on in these minds and people who aren't familiar with the high can struggle to communicate this.

For people that are a little more experienced and don't get so lost in the high, it's an amazing cognitive tool. There are things we know, things we don't know, but there are also things we didn't know that we didn't know. And that's what these mind expanding drugs introduce to us in an altered state of consciousness. This is why they are invaluable. You can reach these levels of consciousness through rigorous mental training and meditation, but drugs can condense this and make it accessible to everyone outside of yogis and meditation gurus. These areas of the mind can be unlocked without drugs, but it's extremely difficult. Drugs can open the door, but it's up to the end user to choose whether they enter it or not.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 14, 2014, 08:28:00 AM
No, everybody I know that smokes it ends up with issues of laziness or depression

This is very true.  People also lose their ambition (if they ever had any that is).

Never got high or drunk in my life and I am 48.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Option D on March 14, 2014, 08:30:48 AM
IF it becomes legal, in the state you live at, will you be interested in smoking it "occasionally"....

 will you see that possibility  ?




WoooSSSHHHHHHH
nope
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2014, 08:38:11 AM
This is very true.  People also lose their ambition (if they ever had any that is).

Never got high or drunk in my life and I am 48.

So in other words, you have absolutely no first hand experience whatsoever with these innocuous drugs? Hell, you could get drunk and high everyday for an entire year and still come out virtually unscathed.

I don't think drinking and doing drugs makes someone cool, but the only people I know who've completely abstained for their entire lives are the most absolute boring people I've ever encountered. Try living a little before you hit your expiration date.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 14, 2014, 08:51:29 AM
"Any state that can be achieved with drugs can also be achieved without drugs" - Timothy Leary

Sure, however, I work smarter not harder so his statement is stupid. And he is wrong, patently wrong.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 14, 2014, 08:52:45 AM
Do as you desire.  You can choose to live in a drug induced self indulgent Matrix and I will stay in the real world and work to make my life better.
No worries.  Thanks! 

My life couldnt be better, the idea you have in your head based off of some fallen heuristic doesn't define me. Do you drink coffee?
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Necrosis on March 14, 2014, 08:55:00 AM
This is very true.  People also lose their ambition (if they ever had any that is).

Never got high or drunk in my life and I am 48.

No they don't some people lose there ambition.

don't do drugs like caffeine, chocolate or mary jane dude, it alters you!!!!!! so does deep breathing, exercising etc it's all one continous now, an experience. Thats the point of life dude , not to be a good person, to become rich, to be high etc it's to groove with the eternal now, the happening.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: the trainer on March 14, 2014, 08:56:06 AM
What a load of horse shit that drugs make you lazy, the only person that makes you lazy is you, there are many successful people who do drugs because they have self control, now if you are one of those persons who cannot control yourself and has a weak will then even if you dont take drugs you still wont be successful.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2014, 08:59:01 AM
What a load of horse shit that drugs make you lazy, the only person that makes you lazy is you, there are many successful people who do drugs because they have self control, now if you are one of those persons who cannot control yourself and has a weak will then even if you dont take drugs you still wont be successful.

Precisely. People have no accountability. They need to stop blaming drugs.

If marijuana wasn't discovered, these people would be losers just the same.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Primemuscle on March 14, 2014, 09:44:47 AM
IF it becomes legal, in the state you live at, will you be interested in smoking it "occasionally"....

 will you see that possibility  ?




WoooSSSHHHHHHH

What's marihauna?
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: The Scott on March 14, 2014, 02:26:07 PM
It sounds like you fear it would change you permanently. It doesn't induce psychosis. The way most people describe it is that they're still themselves (it doesn't induce ego loss like eating a garbage bag full of psychedelic mushrooms), however the way they think is slightly more abstract.

People often scoff at newbie stoners when they sit there all chai-eyed, saying they feel grand epiphanies but are not able to articulate what they're experiencing. You do get a bit of tunnel vision and it can be really hard for non-habitual smokers to talk about their thoughts eloquently and iopenly, especially when there is a bit of memory loss. When people think about others being high, this is what they envision so they write it off as some loser getting high who's incapable of nothing more than just drooling and giggling at some thoughts they can't communicate to others. But there's a lot going on in these minds and people who aren't familiar with the high can struggle to communicate this.

For people that are a little more experienced and don't get so lost in the high, it's an amazing cognitive tool. There are things we know, things we don't know, but there are also things we didn't know that we didn't know. And that's what these mind expanding drugs introduce to us in an altered state of consciousness. This is why they are invaluable. You can reach these levels of consciousness through rigorous mental training and meditation, but drugs can condense this and make it accessible to everyone outside of yogis and meditation gurus. These areas of the mind can be unlocked without drugs, but it's extremely difficult. Drugs can open the door, but it's up to the end user to choose whether they enter it or not.

"Sounds like"?  I choose not to be a doper.  My not doing so keeps me who I am and I am content with that.  Contrast that to those that take this stuff.  Meth can alter your perception too.  Get back to me when your portrait is featured on Faces of Meth.

Again, do as you desire.  Just don't expect everyone to think it's grand.  Be well.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 14, 2014, 02:39:24 PM
Guy at my gym is an eye doctor. He says he smokes weed just about everyday. He told me that it's bullshit that all people who smoke weed are lazy etc. I told him that if he never smoked weed, he might have been a brain surgeon or a heart doctor...He doesn't really talk to him anymore. I wonder why.lol
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2014, 02:49:01 PM
"Sounds like"?  I choose not to be a doper.  My not doing so keeps me who I am and I am content with that.  Contrast that to those that take this stuff.  Meth can alter your perception too.  Get back to me when your portrait is featured on Faces of Meth.

Again, do as you desire.  Just don't expect everyone to think it's grand.  Be well.

You say that as though smoking weed is actually comparable to smoking meth. They are worlds apart. And like I said before, if anyone is weak enough to let an innocuous plant like marijuana "ruin their life" then they're a pretty pathetic and fragile individual to begin with. I've grown copious amounts of weed and had pounds and pounds of weed sitting in my closet and in deep freezers in my basement... it did not ruin me. I had virtually unlimited amounts of weed and would be able to smoke and eat a lifetime worth. It can't do any harm. Worst case Ontario I get a sore throat and can't smoke anymore lol.... that's as dangerous as it gets.

I have a pound of marijuana at home right now. Some of the strongest medicinal marijuana in the country. I still wake up at 6am every morning, plug in a full workday, go to school, raise my daughter, take care of my international students and tutor them, I cook special meals for my stepdad who's terminally ill with cancer and I love and take care of the rest of my family. I don't see how marijuana's ruined, ruining, or going to ruin my life. I've been doing this for years and paid off my cars and half of my mortgage and I'm not even 30. I'll be buying my third property by 35 and would have purchased it sooner if I didn't pay my wife's schooling out right (the final tally will close in at around $25k when she graduates next year).

A pound can roll more than 500 joints easily or pack many thousands of bong hits. How can I still be living and breathing if you claim it's such a dangerous substance (having zero first hand experience with it). Wouldn't all that weed destroy someone??? How in the hell am I able to type all these novels on this site too? Should I be fucked right out the wazoo? ???
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 14, 2014, 02:53:27 PM
So in other words, you have absolutely no first hand experience whatsoever with these innocuous drugs? Hell, you could get drunk and high everyday for an entire year and still come out virtually unscathed.

I don't think drinking and doing drugs makes someone cool, but the only people I know who've completely abstained for their entire lives are the most absolute boring people I've ever encountered. Try living a little before you hit your expiration date.

Don't need experience.  The power of observation shows me that dopers and alcoholics act like idiots and do some very foolish things.  Ill health effects aside, I've also saved a small fortune by not participating in such nonsense.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: The Scott on March 14, 2014, 02:53:40 PM
You say that as though smoking weed is actually comparable to smoking meth. They are worlds apart. And like I said before, if anyone is weak enough to let an innocuous plant like marijuana "ruin their life" then they're a pretty pathetic and fragile individual to begin with. I've grown copious amounts of weed and had pounds and pounds of weed sitting in my closet and in deep freezers in my basement... it did not ruin me. I had virtually unlimited amounts of weed and would be able to smoke and eat a lifetime worth. It can't do any harm. Worst case Ontario I get a sore throat and can't smoke anymore lol.... that's as dangerous as it gets.

I have a pound of marijuana at home right now. Some of the strongest medicinal marijuana in the country. I still wake up at 6am every morning, plug in a full workday, go to school, raise my daughter, take care of my international students and tutor them, I cook special meals for my stepdad who's terminally ill with cancer and I love and take care of the rest of my family. I don't see how marijuana's ruined, ruining, or going to ruin my life. I've been doing this for years and paid off my cars and half of my mortgage and I'm not even 30. I'll be buying my third property by 35 and would have purchased it sooner if I didn't pay my wife's schooling out right (the final tally will close in at around $25k when she graduates next year).

A pound can roll more than 500 joints easily or pack many thousands of bong hits. How can I still be living and breathing if you claim it's such a dangerous substance (having zero first hand experience with it). Wouldn't all that weed destroy someone??? How in the hell am I able to type all these novels on this site too? Should I be fucked right out the wazoo? ???

It alters the state of your mind, albeit to a different degree but I am confident that there are people out there that think about Meth or Cocaine or Heroin in the same vein as does the gentleman I was addressing.  

Apparently we disagree and will never see eye to eye regarding this  stuff. So be it.  Keep taking your blue pill.  I've never needed the red one to know what's real and good for me.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Shockwave on March 14, 2014, 02:57:51 PM
IF it becomes legal, in the state you live at, will you be interested in smoking it "occasionally"....

 will you see that possibility  ?




WoooSSSHHHHHHH
its legal here, bought a bag once, remembered why I dont waste my money on that worthless shit,  havent boughten another since.

stuff sucks, makes you lazy, unmotivates, eat a lot, and makes dumbasses think theyre suddenly becoming smarter or 'enlightened' when really theyre just getting dumber.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 14, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
Guy at my gym is an eye doctor. He says he smokes weed just about everyday. He told me that it's bullshit that all people who smoke weed are lazy etc. I told him that if he never smoked weed, he might have been a brain surgeon or a heart doctor...He doesn't really talk to him anymore. I wonder why.lol

Guy must have started smoking after he was already a doctor.  

Most hardcore pots smokers I know are apathetic and have very little ambition.
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: pumped1961 on March 14, 2014, 02:58:41 PM
lowers testosterone levels increases estrogen levels and make you lazy paranoid the perfect drug!
Title: Re: Question for NON Marihuana users
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2014, 03:01:18 PM
It alters the state of your mind, albeit to a different degree but I am confident that there are people out there that think about Meth or Cocaine or Heroin in the same vein as does the gentleman I was addressing.  

Apparently we disagree and will never see eye to eye regarding this  stuff. So be it.  Keep taking your blue pill.  I've never needed the red one to know what's real and good for me.  Thanks.

Neither of us know enough about cannabinoids to even attempt ascertain the real effects of this plant. But what we can see through empirical evidence is that people can and do live regular, successful and very fulfilling lives without marijuana destroying it.

I'm not trying to force anything on you or anyone else, but I think that to simply disregard a plant that LEAD to the discovery of the endocannabinoid system and a ton of different neurological breakthroughs is very well worth investigating. Even if scientists dug deeper and found extremely deleterious effects, I'd rather them continue their research rather than walk away because they're fearful.

Look at drugs like LSD, MDMA and ketamine - all written off as having very little to no therapeutic benefit. Now they're using LSD and MDMA to help with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and other psychological diseases. Ketamine is being used, sometimes as infrequently as ONE TIME, and eradicating depression and helping people to stop using very addictive and destructive narcotics. Fear mongering does no good. Marijuana isn't 100% harmless, but the harm is so minute it is virtually undetectable at this point. That's why I get upset when people write it off as stoner lore and lump people into the same category as the lowest common denominators that abuse this plant.