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in what way was he a warrior except for in fake wrestling?
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it was real to me damn it!!!
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it was real to me damn it!!!
hahaha
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in what way was he a warrior except for in fake wrestling?
He was a character. Just like a The Terminator or John Matrix in Commando or Rambo. He was a character created by Jim Hellwig. What was particularly famous about this character was that Jim Hellwig put so much of his life and passion into creating this character and making it believable and effective, like the physique he built up, the appearance and the intensity he brought to his performances. He even went as far as legally changing his name to "Warrior" just to protect his intellectual property.
The guy who "played" this character died. It would be like if the action star Arnold Schwarzenegger died and saying "in what way was he an action star other than in fake movies?".
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He was a character. Just like a The Terminator or John Matrix in Commando or Rambo. He was a character created by Jim Hellwig. What was particularly famous about this character was that Jim Hellwig put so much of his life and passion into creating this character and making it believable and effective, like the physique he built up, the appearance and the intensity he brought to his performances. He even went as far as legally changing his name to "Warrior" just to protect his intellectual property.
The guy who "played" this character died. It would be like if the action star Arnold Schwarzenegger died and saying "in what way was he an action star other than in fake movies?".
wut?
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it was real to me damn it!!!
;D
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He was a character. Just like a The Terminator or John Matrix in Commando or Rambo. He was a character created by Jim Hellwig. What was particularly famous about this character was that Jim Hellwig put so much of his life and passion into creating this character and making it believable and effective, like the physique he built up, the appearance and the intensity he brought to his performances. He even went as far as legally changing his name to "Warrior" just to protect his intellectual property.
The guy who "played" this character died. It would be like if the action star Arnold Schwarzenegger died and saying "in what way was he an action star other than in fake movies?".
lol little 300 post something getting a major meltdown from one simple line from me
apparently it was real to you damn it
lolololol
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;D Having a meltdown is acceptable, as long as it's Ultimate Warrior style!
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Nah, just messing I was such a big fan of wrestling when I was younger, still am today but don't watch it as much, I get all ultra defensive when people call it fake.
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Go to Florida and call Haku a fake ass wrestler, then tell us what happened.
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;D Having a meltdown is acceptable, as long as it's Ultimate Warrior style!
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Nah, just messing I was such a big fan of wrestling when I was younger, still am today but don't watch it as much, I get all ultra defensive when people call it fake.
Why would you get defensive when other people point out the fact wrestling is fake?
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Why would you get defensive when other people point out the fact wrestling is fake?
Because "fake" is the wrong word to use. Sure it's scripted and predetermined and two opponents might be the best of friends in real life. But it requires very high levels of athleticism and toughness. Those bumps wrestlers take are hard. They "learn" how to fall sure, but it is still a very real impact and most people don't realise this. It takes a lot of skill to pull of what they do. And when a guy suffers a dislocated elbow in a match or tears his quad muscle off the bone or a broken neck and still gets up and finishes the "script", it is harsh to say they are fakes when no other performers could continue under those circumstances.
The real irony of the situation is that anybody who calls wrestling fake to a wrestlers face gets the crap beaten out of them.
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Because "fake" is the wrong word to use. Sure it's scripted and predetermined and two opponents might be the best of friends in real life. But it requires very high levels of athleticism and toughness. Those bumps wrestlers take are hard. They "learn" how to fall sure, but it is still a very real impact and most people don't realise this. It takes a lot of skill to pull of what they do. And when a guy suffers a dislocated elbow in a match or tears his quad muscle off the bone or a broken neck and still gets up and finishes the "script", it is harsh to say they are fakes when no other performers could continue under those circumstances.
The real irony of the situation is that anybody who calls wrestling fake to a wrestlers face gets the crap beaten out of them.
OK, I get what you are saying but it will still never garner much respect due to it's pre determined outcomes. And other athletes push through injury all the time, it's not just wrestlers. And the injuries incurred in wrestling aren't deliberate, the other guy doesn't truly mean to hurt you (well most of the time), which is a lot different than facing off with a professional boxer or ufc fighter that if he gets a chance to snap your arm or knock you out he is going to take it.
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Go to Florida and call Haku a fake ass wrestler, then tell us what happened.
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Haku is legit tuff..
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It's fake as in scripted. As in pretending to be a match!
It is the right word allright.
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He was also closet case homophobe as well. Well known in Atlanta during his BBing days as an escort for the schmoes.
And who could forget that comic issue with the homo overtones where he basically raped Santa and forced him into bondage?
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UW had the coolest face paint ever.
UW had some of the best, headscratching interviews ever.
UW was a former bb.
UW had one of the best physiques in the history of wrasslin.
UW wrassled the Von Erichs.
UW was powerful.
UW trained until he puked or passed out.
UW received the biggest pops in the history of wrasslin.
UW had some of the best entrance music of all time.
UW had one of the best entrances of all time.
UW loved his fans.
UW rarely broke character.
UW was once the Dingo Warrior.
UW was born Jim Helwig and changed his named to Warrior.
UW was inducted into the WWE HoF.
UW had his final appearance on the biggest wrasslin program in history on RAW.
UW is an icon in the wrasslin business.
UW had some of the coolest in ring attire in the history of wrasslin.
UW was probably slightly insane.
UW could shake the ring ropes better than anyone in wrasslin history.
UW died doing what he loved.
If you weren't a wrasslin fan in the 80s/90s you still knew who Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior were.
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Go to Florida and call Haku a fake ass wrestler, then tell us what happened.
Haha ;D
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OK, I get what you are saying but it will still never garner much respect due to it's pre determined outcomes. And other athletes push through injury all the time, it's not just wrestlers. And the injuries incurred in wrestling aren't deliberate, the other guy doesn't truly mean to hurt you (well most of the time), which is a lot different than facing off with a professional boxer or ufc fighter that if he gets a chance to snap your arm or knock you out he is going to take it.
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Plenty of people respect professional wrestling. It's not an easy thing to do. It takes a very specific mindset and determination to want to be a professional wrestler. I respect the hell out of what these guys do in the ring. It's not a sport, it's professional entertainment. But make no mistake, the physicallity of pro wrestling is among the highest of any pro legit sport.
I'm not ashamed to admit that pro wrestling is a guilty pleasure for me at my age. To each his own.
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Because "fake" is the wrong word to use. Sure it's scripted and predetermined and two opponents might be the best of friends in real life. But it requires very high levels of athleticism and toughness. Those bumps wrestlers take are hard. They "learn" how to fall sure, but it is still a very real impact and most people don't realise this. It takes a lot of skill to pull of what they do. And when a guy suffers a dislocated elbow in a match or tears his quad muscle off the bone or a broken neck and still gets up and finishes the "script", it is harsh to say they are fakes when no other performers could continue under those circumstances.
The real irony of the situation is that anybody who calls wrestling fake to a wrestlers face gets the crap beaten out of them.
100pct,,there main thing is to 'sell'the crowd and suspend the imagination for short time that what there seeing is perceived real,or nobody would cheer if they knew better.out come is irrelevant.
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dr d I think didn't pull back nor cup the slap,stossel sued or claimed he was visciously attacked and not on script..hearing loss..how about when Hogan dropped richard belzer on his talk show he fell back and cracked head open and visible bleed ing down his suit,,
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Plenty of people respect professional wrestling. It's not an easy thing to do. It takes a very specific mindset and determination to want to be a professional wrestler. I respect the hell out of what these guys do in the ring. It's not a sport, it's professional entertainment. But make no mistake, the physicallity of pro wrestling is among the highest of any pro legit sport.
I'm not ashamed to admit that pro wrestling is a guilty pleasure for me at my age. To each his own.
I loved wrestling as a kid, even seen Andre the Giant at Festival Hall in Melbourne, but I did grow out of it. I don't know if I respect such men, no different than football players. You have to question the mindset of men who smash their bodies and deliberately fuck themselves up for entertaining the moronic masses. I always just thought they had no self respect and no self esteem, like they believed they didn't matter enough to have a healthy body and mind to last them their lifetime. It's almost like they allow themselves to be beat up to confirm their worthlessness, their unworthiness to live a decent healthy life. It's a bizarre thing to sacrifice your health and wellbeing to entertain morons.
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OK, I get what you are saying but it will still never garner much respect due to it's pre determined outcomes. And other athletes push through injury all the time, it's not just wrestlers. And the injuries incurred in wrestling aren't deliberate, the other guy doesn't truly mean to hurt you (well most of the time), which is a lot different than facing off with a professional boxer or ufc fighter that if he gets a chance to snap your arm or knock you out he is going to take it.
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It garners respect among people who are fans of wrestling. Its mostly dismissed by other sports fans though. Heres the thing - it is respected by many top level MMA fighters. They understand how tough pro-wrestlers really are. Now, I'm not saying that a pro wrestler could beat an MMA guy in a UFC sanctioned fight but I still think using the word fake is not right. Fake to me makes me think of something being phony or not real. But look at this clip as an example, I just can not call this "fake".
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people who cant make it in a combination of
*bodybuilding
*fighting sports
*acting
they end up in "wrestling"
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I loved wrestling as a kid, even seen Andre the Giant at Festival Hall in Melbourne, but I did grow out of it. I don't know if I respect such men, no different than football players. You have to question the mindset of men who smash their bodies and deliberately fuck themselves up for entertaining the moronic masses. I always just thought they had no self respect and no self esteem, like they believed they didn't matter enough to have a healthy body and mind to last them their lifetime. It's almost like they allow themselves to be beat up to confirm their worthlessness, their unworthiness to live a decent healthy life. It's a bizarre thing to sacrifice your health and wellbeing to entertain morons.
Once again, to each his own. I'm more of a fan of the behind the scenes politics as I've gotten older.
But to address your point....like all professional endeavors, whether sports or entertainment, these men have the mindset to want to be famous and/or wealthy.
So wrestling fans and football fans are morons? Your opinion is highly subjective.
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Once again, to each his own. I'm more of a fan of the behind the scenes politics as I've gotten older.
But to address your point....like all professional endeavors, whether sports or entertainment, these men have the mindset to want to be famous and/or wealthy.
So wrestling fans and football fans are morons? Your opinion is highly subjective.
Well, yes I do think wrestling and football fans are moronic, kind of proof how little the majority have evolved since we migrated away from caves. But like you said, to each his own, if morons want to smash their bodies together to entertain other morons, who am I to stop them.
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I wouldn't include bodybuilding in there. The guys who make it in wrestling are much bigger stars and make a lot more money than the people who make it in bodybuilding, Arnold being the only exception. Being champ of the WWE is far more lucrative than being Mr. O.
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#21: Jerry Lawler Net Worth $7 Million
#22: Randy Orton Net Worth $6 Million
#23: Alberto Del Rio Net Worth $6 Million
#24: Hulk Hogan Net Worth $5 Million
***Hogan lost an estimated $25 million in his divorce from ex-wife Linda Hogan. Linda was awarded 70% of the couple's liquid assets, a 40% stake in all of Hulk's companies, six luxury cars and millions more in property***
#24: Ric Flair Net Worth $5 Million
#25: The Miz Net Worth $5 Million
#26: Rowdy Roddy Piper Net Worth $4 Million
#27: Chyna Net Worth: $1.5 Million
Bonus:
Vince McMahon Net Worth $500 Million
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Well, yes I do think wrestling and football fans are moronic, kind of proof how little the majority have evolved since we migrated away from caves. But like you said, to each his own, if morons want to smash their bodies together to entertain other morons, who am I to stop them.
moron, huh? Takes one to know one bub
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Well, yes I do think wrestling and football fans are moronic, kind of proof how little the majority have evolved since we migrated away from caves. But like you said, to each his own, if morons want to smash their bodies together to entertain other morons, who am I to stop them.
Oh yeah football and wrestling fans are moronic, as opposed to fans of bodybuilding. ::)
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Is Bob Backlund still alive? He was one of my favorites as a kid. He worked for McMahon before the whole thing blew up with Hogan and Wrestlemania. The WWWF, as it was known then, had one show a week on TV, which I think was on at like midnight on Saturday night. I would have to struggle to stay up to watch it. The outcomes of the matches were so easy to figure out, even for a little kid. The real good stuff would play out at the monthly show in Madison Square Garden, which was not televised.
YEAH CHOLO,,,backlund used his real wrestling moves/persona to his gimmick well,the garden matches were shown on our area nj/ct/nyc on msg channel and depending on the 'card' they would show the garden matches monthy ,usually the main event got cut off or if it was return bout or extra return bout they would sometimes not televise it.loved that era I was 11/12 so I 'believed'what I saw.LOL,,backlunds or wrestling turning point from old to new era started with return 'superstar billy graham'as karate trained from the orient shaved head came back destroyed backlunds old belt and new one designed,backlund has few great matches with graham,takes a beating from masked superstar,hurts neck,following month sheik takes an injured backlund title,next month packed garden sheik vs Hogan rest is history...so baclund/sheik had to put over each other to get to Hogan to be handing Hogan baton...
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He stayed in the ring for 10 years too long; he is 49 in this pic. He should have quit a decade ago. Bah!
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He stayed in the ring for 10 years too long; he is 49 in this pic. He should have quit a decade ago. Bah!
almost the movie the wrestler...still muscular but broken down,drawing high school auditorium crowds,signing at small conventions for few hundred bucks,immortalized at peak in a video game,same script but for real,,that movie had some insight into this,,
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He stayed in the ring for 10 years too long; he is 49 in this pic. He should have quit a decade ago. Bah!
All of that HGH he took when he was younger. Little arms and shoulders compared to that distended belly. Looks ridiculous.
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When you stop to think of his physique, star power, and fan base it is strange to see he is not in the top tier when it comes to net worth. Celebrity Net Worth tags him at at just $1.5 million. Did he make a lot more and just burn through it all or did he just not make much money? I'd be surprised if he had $1.5 at the time of his death. Bah!
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/wrestlers/ultimate-warrior-net-worth/
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Oh yeah football and wrestling fans are moronic, as opposed to fans of bodybuilding. ::)
Bodybuilding is even more moronic considering the lack of financial reward. I don't like bodybuilding either, I appreciate strength training though.
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He stayed in the ring for 10 years too long; he is 49 in this pic. He should have quit a decade ago. Bah!
Hogan is doing the same thing and after way too many surgeries!
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We're about the same age. I thought it was legit too. Backlund's chicken wing was his big move from what I remember. I also remember Backlund used to do physical endurance feats like an hour of step ups or an hour with the ab roller.
We got cable late where I was so I didn't have MSG. It was great when we did get it. That was the first time I saw the NWA on TNT and got introduced to Ric Flair and those guys.
I'm embarrassed to admit but I bought wrestling mags back in those days (even more embarrassingly, when I got older I bought muscle mags).
X2,,I DID SAME THING MAYBE WE ARE RELATED LOL...
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Bodybuilding is even more moronic considering the lack of financial reward. I don't like bodybuilding either, I appreciate strength training though.
Well I too appreciate strength training, more than bodybuilding, but I immensely respect the effort, dedication and mentality that goes into bodybuilding. I would never call anybody moronic because they are fans of something, whether it be bodybuilding, pro-wrestling or stamp collecting. Every individual is entitled to have their own tastes and preferences and if they are passionate about it, more power to them.
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He stayed in the ring for 10 years too long; he is 49 in this pic. He should have quit a decade ago. Bah!
Fuck sakes. This was a one-off appearance. Guy had been retired for YEARS before this special appearance.
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YEAH CHOLO,,,backlund used his real wrestling moves/persona to his gimmick well,the garden matches were shown on our area nj/ct/nyc on msg channel and depending on the 'card' they would show the garden matches monthy ,usually the main event got cut off or if it was return bout or extra return bout they would sometimes not televise it.loved that era I was 11/12 so I 'believed'what I saw.LOL,,backlunds or wrestling turning point from old to new era started with return 'superstar billy graham'as karate trained from the orient shaved head came back destroyed backlunds old belt and new one designed,backlund has few great matches with graham,takes a beating from masked superstar,hurts neck,following month sheik takes an injured backlund title,next month packed garden sheik vs Hogan rest is history...so baclund/sheik had to put over each other to get to Hogan to be handing Hogan baton...
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Your writing is ridiculous. Clean this shit up so folks can actually read it without suffering a headache.
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In a street brawl, fact is, most MMA "warriors" would lose BIG to the average pro wrestler. I'm not talking about a staged match in a cage with rules and expected technical plans of attack. I am talking about two guys butting heads out of the blue and shit going down, in the blink of an eye.
Say all the crap you want. Warrior was an imposing fellow who in his prime could have caused serious damage to another through his sheer size, strength, intensity, and athleticism. He'd overwhelm.
And pro wrestler, for all its corniness and pre-scripted outcomes, features some incredible athletes.
Lots of twinks butthurt for life over the fact that there are men walking this planet who crush them in every sense possible.
Get over it and know your place, wimps.
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I seem to remember a warrior interview where he said he played college football.
Defensive end. Something about seeing that pro contract was out of reach and deciding to
try wrestling route.
Didn't find anything about it now... Maybe it was some other guy?
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In a street brawl, fact is, most MMA "warriors" would lose BIG to the average pro wrestler. I'm not talking about a staged match in a cage with rules and expected technical plans of attack. I am talking about two guys butting heads out of the blue and shit going down, in the blink of an eye.
Say all the crap you want. Warrior was an imposing fellow who in his prime could have caused serious damage to another through his sheer size, strength, intensity, and athleticism. He'd overwhelm.
And pro wrestler, for all its corniness and pre-scripted outcomes, features some incredible athletes.
Lots of twinks butthurt for life over the fact that there are men walking this planet who crush them in every sense possible.
Get over it and know your place, wimps.
I'm a huge mma fan and I have to agree if some of those old school pro wrestlers got there hands on an average mama fighter it would be lights out.
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In a street brawl, fact is, most MMA "warriors" would lose BIG to the average pro wrestler. I'm not talking about a staged match in a cage with rules and expected technical plans of attack. I am talking about two guys butting heads out of the blue and shit going down, in the blink of an eye.
Say all the crap you want. Warrior was an imposing fellow who in his prime could have caused serious damage to another through his sheer size, strength, intensity, and athleticism. He'd overwhelm.
And pro wrestler, for all its corniness and pre-scripted outcomes, features some incredible athletes.
Lots of twinks butthurt for life over the fact that there are men walking this planet who crush them in every sense possible.
Get over it and know your place, wimps.
I don't think most would by the sheer fact that many MMA fighters start out as top wrestlers. Add Muay Thai, Jiu-Jitsu, boxing etc to the mix and pro wrestlers would get trashed. Brock Lesnar did ok but even he couldn't handle top MMA fighters even after being trained to fight.
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I don't think most would by the sheer fact that many MMA fighter start out as top wrestlers. Add Muay Thai, Jiu-Jitsu, boxing etc to the mix and pro wrestlers would get trashed. Brock Lesnar did ok but even he couldn't handle top MMA fighters even after being trained to fight.
Weak argument. I am talking about a street fight. Plus, Lesnar was fighting men who were rare in MMA: athletes who were very large and very strong. PLUS, Brock hadn't nearly the specific MMA training/experience that his opponents did, and he still did quite OK, by all accounts.
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It's an interesting debate. I guess it comes down to what constitutes "average" MMA fighter?
If we are talking pound for pound I'm guessing Ultimate Warrior weighed in around 240 to 250?? That's MMA heavyweight size there and there's tons of MMA fighters at that size who would be tough to contend with for him in ring or a back alley.
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#1: The Rock Net Worth $70 Million
#2: Steve Austin Net Worth $45 Million
#3: John Cena Net Worth $35 Million
#4: Big Show Net Worth $30 Million
#5: Triple H Net Worth: $25 Million
#6: Kurt Angle Net Worth $20 million
#7: Chris Jericho Net Worth $18 Million
#8: Shawn Michaels Net Worth $17 Million
#9: The Undertaker Net Worth $16 Million
#10: Mick Foley Net Worth $15 Million
#11: Bret Hart Net Worth $14 Million
#12: Edge Net Worth $14 Million
#13: Sting Net Worth $13 Million
#14: Brock Lesnar Net Worth $12.5 Million
#15: Goldberg Net Worth $12 Million
#16: Batista Net Worth $10 Million
#17: JBL Net Worth $9 Million
#18: Rey Mysterio Net Worth $8.5 Million
#19: Kevin Nash Net Worth $8 Million
#20: CM Punk Net Worth $7.5 Million
#21: Jerry Lawler Net Worth $7 Million
#22: Randy Orton Net Worth $6 Million
#23: Alberto Del Rio Net Worth $6 Million
#24: Hulk Hogan Net Worth $5 Million
***Hogan lost an estimated $25 million in his divorce from ex-wife Linda Hogan. Linda was awarded 70% of the couple's liquid assets, a 40% stake in all of Hulk's companies, six luxury cars and millions more in property***
#24: Ric Flair Net Worth $5 Million
#25: The Miz Net Worth $5 Million
#26: Rowdy Roddy Piper Net Worth $4 Million
#27: Chyna Net Worth: $1.5 Million
Bonus:
Vince McMahon Net Worth $500 Million
Randy Savage Net Worth $8 Million
Ric Flair doesn't have a pot to piss in.
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Wow,those cats clock some serious coin.
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It's an interesting debate. I guess it comes down to what constitutes "average" MMA fighter?
If we are talking pound for pound I'm guessing Ultimate Warrior weighed in around 240 to 250?? That's MMA heavyweight size there and there's tons of MMA fighters at that size who would be tough to contend with for him in ring or a back alley.
Warrior was always around 275 in his prime.
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Warrior was always around 275 in his prime.
That's his 'wrestler' weight. I doubt he weighed over 240.
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Fuck sakes. This was a one-off appearance. Guy had been retired for YEARS before this special appearance.
Exactly. Warrior was retired for years doing his own thing and raising a family. He came back for one appearance and that was it.
You gotta respect the man...the warriaahhhhh!
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Why would you get defensive when other people point out the fact wrestling is fake?
Written early morning on April 9th on a different forum.
Check last sentence... People considering it fake wrestling was dead 20 yrs. ago
and I havn't watched any since they had the WCW/NWO which was entertaining for a while.
He was the only reason I watched a bit of wrestling late 80's and early 90's.
I didn't care if he wasn't a great wrestler; I was inspired by the build and intensity of the gimmick.
This is a shock cause he was always no drugs, stay in shape, ect.
It was obvious he used his fair share of juice in his prime.
I've got a lot of the story now by spending about an hour on youtube so here is my take.
He did a video to promote a WWF video game and looked in tremendous shape for 53-54.
Obvious TRT, HRT at the least. He looked slim in the face and the abs were showing.
I've been seeing all these commercials about how TRT is bad for your heart, ect through new studies.
I sure hope it's just hype and propaganda because I planned on getting on TRT in the next 6 months
and get those test levels back to when I was 25 instead of 48.
Anyway, he was inducted in the WWE hall of fame and looked like a different person than the commercial.
I wonder if he may have had a mini stroke because the left side of his face; eye and mouth seemed to droop
ever so slightly but it is there if you watch long enough. This would explain a limp also.
Monday Raw he gives a death type speech talking about his last breath and how the legend
will live on way after he's gone. Something to that effect. Very strange that he died the next day.
I think he knew his health for whatever reason was not good.
He looked like he had aged at least 10 years in the last 5. In fact he looked like he had
aged 5 years or more from the commercial they had shot.
He made his mark on 10's of thousands of people and will be remembered as one of the 1st
to really bring the entertainment side out of Sports Entertainment instead of most considering it
fake wrestling at the time.
RIP Warrior
Day before he died speech - Kind of Prophetic so to speak.
Starts at 1:25
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Bummer. He didn't sound or look so good there toward the end of his speech. Looked drained. Tired.
But he sounded sincere and grateful to those that put him on the pedestal of their emotions. Lots of little kids now all grown up in that audience. Good for him.
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That's his 'wrestler' weight. I doubt he weighed over 240.
No, he was a legit 275-ish. The man was around 6'2" and very heavily muscled. Not a stretch. I'm six and weigh about the same after 27 years of weight training. But I'm also drug-free (and not as lean, obviously), so it's not tough to imagine a gassed man two inches taller who had been massively involved in bodybuilding/weight training for well over a decade was this bodyweight.
Plus, as I said in a previous post, my friends saw him train in my then-gym way, way back, and they said he was EVERY BIT of 275. And they'd know. Said he made all the BB pros (Henderson Thorne, etc.) and other WWF (WWE at the time) wrestlers there look deflated and puny.
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in what way was he a warrior except for in fake wrestling?
Jim Hellwig may have died, but The Ultimate Warrior and his legacy will live on
He had a way with words...
Den mest Fδrgstarka Brottaren sedan 1853!
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If most 'pro' wrestlers started off as D1/college wrestlers, id have to agree. Wrestling is a great form of ground combat.... one of the originals. Its highly effective and many of fhe best MMA fighters started life as wrestlers.
when o started training MMA my friend/training partner was a 300lb state champ wrestled. He beat me all ov3r the place, dudes size strength and technique was simply hard to match. Especially by someone 100lbs lighter and with half the experience.
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people who cant make it in a combination of
*bodybuilding
*fighting sports
*acting
they end up in "wrestling"
This couldn't be further from the truth.
My father had a great carrer in wrestling for almost 30 years and not once ever tried to do any of those things.
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Why would you get defensive when other people point out the fact wrestling is fake?
You can only call wrestling "fake" if people doing it are trying to make you think it's real. No one has perceived wrestling as "real" in almost 20 years.
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You can only call wrestling "fake" if people doing it are trying to make you think it's real. No one has presived wrestling as "real" in almost 20 years.
perceived bro, perceived.
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perceived bro, perceived.
;D didn't think that looked right.
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9 times out of 10, the bigger, stronger guy will win a brawl/fight.
Superior strength/size/power is a massive advantage in a fight That's why weight classes exist in every combat sport. :D
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No, he was a legit 275-ish. The man was around 6'2" and very heavily muscled. Not a stretch. I'm six and weigh about the same after 27 years of weight training. But I'm also drug-free (and not as lean, obviously), so it's not tough to imagine a gassed man two inches taller who had been massively involved in bodybuilding/weight training for well over a decade was this bodyweight.
Plus, as I said in a previous post, my friends saw him train in my then-gym way, way back, and they said he was EVERY BIT of 275. And they'd know. Said he made all the BB pros (Henderson Thorne, etc.) and other WWF (WWE at the time) wrestlers there look deflated and puny.
Sorry...not buying it. It's not as if he stepped on a scale for you in person. I realize he was heavily muscled but looks can be deceiving when making a guess on someone's bodyweight. There's a wrestler's character billed weight and there is his actual bodyweight.
I'll say 250 pounds, tops. He wasn't 25 pounds shy of being a 300 pounder. No chance. I don't think he was 6'2" either. More like 6 foot or 6 foot one. Triple H was easily a few inches taller than Warrior, for example and he's at least 6 foot 3.
But agree to disagree. I'm sure Hulk Hogan was 302 pounds, right? ::)
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Sorry...not buying it. It's not as if he stepped on a scale for you in person. I realize he was heavily muscled but looks can be deceiving when making a guess on someone's bodyweight. There's a wrestler's character billed weight and there is his actual bodyweight.
I'll say 250 pounds, tops. He wasn't 25 pounds shy of being a 300 pounder. No chance. I don't think he was 6'2" either. More like 6 foot or 6 foot one. Triple H was easily a few inches taller than Warrior, for example and he's at least 6 foot 3.
But agree to disagree. I'm sure Hulk Hogan was 302 pounds, right? ::)
Pro wrestling does often over bill the characters weight but generally only by about 10 pounds. No way would they say Warrior was 275 if he weighed less than 250. You really have to see these guys in the flesh to appreciate how big they are. Early in his career I'd say Warrior was in the high 260's.
For example, Stone Cold Steve Austin weighed 252 through his entire career and he has said that was legit. He now weighs around 265 and has said he is trying to cut back down to 252. And Triple H was always billed as 265 and probably weighed 255ish. Warrior easily had 15-20 pounds on him.
(http://www.wrestlingrumors.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Warrior-Triple-H-WM12.png)
Plus Hogan in the eighties was easily close to 300. He was well over 6'5 and wasn't completely lean either.
(http://static1.imagecollect.com/preview/560/9cdd83d10284291)
Bear in mind Ali was 6'3 and a large man in his own right.
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Pro wrestling does often over bill the characters weight but generally only by about 10 pounds. No way would they say Warrior was 275 if he weighed less than 250. You really have to see these guys in the flesh to appreciate how big they are. Early in his career I'd say Warrior was in the high 260's.
For example, Stone Cold Steve Austin weighed 252 through his entire career and he has said that was legit. He now weighs around 265 and has said he is trying to cut back down to 252. And Triple H was always billed as 265 and probably weighed 255ish. Warrior easily had 15-20 pounds on him.
(http://www.wrestlingrumors.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Warrior-Triple-H-WM12.png)
Plus Hogan in the eighties was easily close to 300. He was well over 6'5 and wasn't completely lean either.
(http://static1.imagecollect.com/preview/560/9cdd83d10284291)
Bear in mind Ali was 6'3 and a large man in his own right.
Of course they would! Why wouldn't they? it's not that big of a decrepancy.
lol...there is no way Austin weighs 265 right now! Are you serious? He is no were near as large now as he was when he was wrestling. He's almost 50 years old. No way he was even 250 when he made his appearance on WM 30.
And I have seen these guys in person and yes...they are big men no doubt....but wrestler's weights get billed far more than 10 pounds on average.
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You can only call wrestling "fake" if people doing it are trying to make you think it's real. No one has perceived wrestling as "real" in almost 20 years.
Good Point!
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Of course they would! Why wouldn't they? it's not that big of a decrepancy.
lol...there is no way Austin weighs 265 right now! Are you serious? He is no were near as large now as he was when he was wrestling. He's almost 50 years old. No way he was even 250 when he made his appearance on WM 30.
And I have seen these guys in person and yes...they are big men no doubt....but wrestler's weights get billed far more than 10 pounds on average.
Austin has gained weight since he retired. If you ever heard his podcast he constantly jokes about how he got "fat". He was 265 recently and was dieting, he has probably lost a few pounds since then but he was definitely heavier than 250 at WM 30, guarantee it.
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You can only call wrestling "fake" if people doing it are trying to make you think it's real. No one has perceived wrestling as "real" in almost 20 years.
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no one understands the point of this thread...
::)
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no one understands the point of this thread...
::)
oh he died
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You can only call wrestling "fake" if people doing it are trying to make you think it's real. No one has perceived wrestling as "real" in almost 20 years.
Not sure it works that way.
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Not sure it works that way.
That's exactly how it works. They are basically actors and stunt men. No one is saying wrestling is "real" so how can you say it's "fake" fake what?
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When you stop to think of his physique, star power, and fan base it is strange to see he is not in the top tier when it comes to net worth. Celebrity Net Worth tags him at at just $1.5 million. Did he make a lot more and just burn through it all or did he just not make much money? I'd be surprised if he had $1.5 at the time of his death. Bah!
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/wrestlers/ultimate-warrior-net-worth/
He owned a number of business and a training center. But he wrestled at a time when there was little money available for wrestlers.....sort of like the bodybuilding industry
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That's exactly how it works. They are basically actors and stunt men. No one is saying wrestling is "real" so how can you say it's "fake" fake what?
Ok, fair enough. I guess we're arguing semantics. Point taken.
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Of course they would! Why wouldn't they? it's not that big of a decrepancy.
lol...there is no way Austin weighs 265 right now! Are you serious? He is no were near as large now as he was when he was wrestling. He's almost 50 years old. No way he was even 250 when he made his appearance on WM 30.
And I have seen these guys in person and yes...they are big men no doubt....but wrestler's weights get billed far more than 10 pounds on average.
Totally agree... Wrestling stats are all seriously overblown it's not even funny... UW was a legit 6' footer, no way more than that, and around 240lbs for him seems correct, no way 275... Triple H is around 6'1.5, 6'2 morning probably, no more than that... Peak Hulk Hogan was 6'5-6'6...
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Totally agree... Wrestling stats are all seriously overblown it's not even funny... UW was a legit 6' footer, no way more than that, and around 240lbs for him seems correct, no way 275... Triple H is around 6'1.5, 6'2 morning probably, no more than that... Peak Hulk Hogan was 6'5-6'6...
Thank you...I'm glad someone agreed with me. It's laughable how much wrestlers beef up their bodyweights for their characters. Randy Savage for example, was billed between 235-240 and I doubt he was heavier than 205-210. For one, he had really skinny legs. And when I met him as a kid, my father was easily 2-3 inches taller than he was and he's a legit 6'2".
And I don't care what anyone says...no way Austin weighed 265 for his appearance at wrestlemania 30. If you believe that, I have some beachfront property to sell you on the North Pole.
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Yeah, pro wrestlers really aren't big at all, they fake all their stats. ::)
Spot the wrestlers from the normal lifters.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbZ0aTvIYAAaWHa.jpg)
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He owned a number of business and a training center. But he wrestled at a time when there was little money available for wrestlers.....sort of like the bodybuilding industry
Warrior was a top earner in the late 80's and early 90's. There were those that didn't earn a lot, but he was not one of them.
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Yeah, it's inconceivable that the man was 275. ::)
Arsenio is around six feet and Warrior towers over him in this video. And he's massive, to boot.
Pause at around 1:20 and check out the size difference between the two men.
Some of you haven't a clue. As I say, I am six and I weigh around 275. And I'm drug-free.
Here's another ...
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It's nice to see the wrestling geeks sticking together.
Wrestling.....hahahaaaa
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Huge Wrestler was huge.
Quibbling over 20lbs on a dude that was between 6'3-6'5 = why!?
FYI looks like he could be 260-275 to me. Dude is monsterous.
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Yeah, it's inconceivable that the man was 275. ::)
Arsenio is around six feet and Warrior towers over him in this video. And he's massive, to boot.
Pause at around 1:20 and check out the size difference between the two men.
Some of you haven't a clue. As I say, I am six and I weigh around 275. And I'm drug-free.
Here's another ...
Just to put things in perspective Jim claimed 285 when he first burst on the scene with the bulkier type look and that was also when he was clearly at his biggest.
It's not inconceivable that Ultimate Warrior weighed 275 but at his prime ripped condition you really think he was that much heavier than a prime Arnold?
If Vince McMahon, notorious for over promoting size, sends you out there with a billed height of 6 foot 2 you damn sure aint 6'4 or 6'5.
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It's nice to see the wrestling geeks sticking together.
Wrestling.....hahahaaaa
this
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It's nice to see the wrestling geeks sticking together.
Wrestling.....hahahaaaa
Juicing into your early 50's and one day soon defecating all of your vital organs.....hahahaaaa
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It's nice to see the wrestling geeks sticking together.
Wrestling.....hahahaaaa
Yeah pro-wrestling is an odd, laughable sub-culture.
If only it was as mainstream and as popular as bodybuilding... ::)
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Im sure vince cries himself to sleep every night know his company is only worth 1.25 billion
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#1: The Rock Net Worth $70 Million
#2: Steve Austin Net Worth $45 Million
#3: John Cena Net Worth $35 Million
#4: Big Show Net Worth $30 Million
#5: Triple H Net Worth: $25 Million
#6: Kurt Angle Net Worth $20 million
#7: Chris Jericho Net Worth $18 Million
#8: Shawn Michaels Net Worth $17 Million
#9: The Undertaker Net Worth $16 Million
#10: Mick Foley Net Worth $15 Million
#11: Bret Hart Net Worth $14 Million
#12: Edge Net Worth $14 Million
#13: Sting Net Worth $13 Million
#14: Brock Lesnar Net Worth $12.5 Million
#15: Goldberg Net Worth $12 Million
#16: Batista Net Worth $10 Million
#17: JBL Net Worth $9 Million
#18: Rey Mysterio Net Worth $8.5 Million
#19: Kevin Nash Net Worth $8 Million
#20: CM Punk Net Worth $7.5 Million
#21: Jerry Lawler Net Worth $7 Million
#22: Randy Orton Net Worth $6 Million
#23: Alberto Del Rio Net Worth $6 Million
#24: Hulk Hogan Net Worth $5 Million
***Hogan lost an estimated $25 million in his divorce from ex-wife Linda Hogan. Linda was awarded 70% of the couple's liquid assets, a 40% stake in all of Hulk's companies, six luxury cars and millions more in property***
#24: Ric Flair Net Worth $5 Million
#25: The Miz Net Worth $5 Million
#26: Rowdy Roddy Piper Net Worth $4 Million
#27: Chyna Net Worth: $1.5 Million
Bonus:
Vince McMahon Net Worth $500 Million
Randy Savage Net Worth $8 Million
what about Namat, the Hungarian Hammer?!
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what about Namat, the Hungarian Hammer?!
2.50 ..OR THE GATE THAT NIGHT.
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Just to put things in perspective Jim claimed 285 when he first burst on the scene with the bulkier type look and that was also when he was clearly at his biggest.
It's not inconceivable that Ultimate Warrior weighed 275 but at his prime ripped condition you really think he was that much heavier than a prime Arnold?
If Vince McMahon, notorious for over promoting size, sends you out there with a billed height of 6 foot 2 you damn sure aint 6'4 or 6'5.
Arnold was never a man with dense and thick mass and his legs were thin. Yes, Warrior was around 275.
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Just to put things in perspective Jim claimed 285 when he first burst on the scene with the bulkier type look and that was also when he was clearly at his biggest.
It's not inconceivable that Ultimate Warrior weighed 275 but at his prime ripped condition you really think he was that much heavier than a prime Arnold?
If Vince McMahon, notorious for over promoting size, sends you out there with a billed height of 6 foot 2 you damn sure aint 6'4 or 6'5.
Bodyweight can be a difficult thing to estimate by eye especially for bodybuilders. Most top bodybuilders are short - 5'9 or under. They also carry very low bodyfat levels on stage. Top bodybuilders very often have "slight" frames also - this may seem counterintuitive but they very often have a small skeletal structure, small joints, waists etc. Most bodybuilders started of as ectomorphic skinny kids, with naturally small frames. For example a guy like Flex Wheeler at his peak was only around 230 I believe, yet if somebody said he was 260 I would have no trouble believing them.
In contrast most pro-wrestlers are the complete opposite. They naturally have heavy frames, thick joints, wide shoulders, big hands, wrists etc. They are usually over 6'0 tall plus carry more bodyfat then a competitive bodybuilder, even a shredded guy like Warrior.
For example, this picture. Superstar Billy Graham was billed as 275 throughout his career. This was taken during the 70's when Arnold was at his largest. I'm an Arnold fan but he looks like a pissant next to Billy Graham here. Warrior was not quite as tall as Billy Graham but was of a similar size.
(http://product.images.prosportsmemorabilia.com/33-98/33-98083-F.jpg)