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Lebron trains with weights and MJ needs cardio. Bbing related.
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I like that Lebron did that. Show that old bastard you're comin' after his shitty team and his legendary legacy.
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Lebron's ego is now so monumentally colossal that he's ballsy enough to stare down the greatest player ever. Damn son. That nígga not triflin around.
Even Kobe's scared of him.
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Lebron is not worthy to put his head under Michaels white towel.
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I like that Lebron did that. Show that old bastard you're comin' after his shitty team and his legendary legacy.
LeBron is finally developing that killer instinct. The kobe/MJ heart. He doesn't want to just win games or rings... He wants to crush and pwn everyone on the court in his era, and in times past. Sorta like when Jay looked Wolf in the eye at the 2007 Olympia and said to him, "I'm so good I am going to retreat every time you try to pose next to me."
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I like that Lebron did that. Show that old bastard you're comin' after his shitty team and his legendary legacy.
Qft
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Lebron is not worthy to put his head under Michaels white towel.
:D fagget!
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LeBron is finally developing that killer instinct. The kobe/MJ heart. He doesn't want to just win games or rings... He wants to crush and pwn everyone on the court in his era, and in times past. Sorta like when Jay looked Wolf in the eye at the 2007 Olympia and said to him, "I'm so good I am going to retreat every time you try to pose next to me."
Jay ran like a champ from Wolf
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Lebron trains with weights and MJ needs cardio. Bbing related.
Lebron will never be half of what Michael Jordan is.....period.
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Lebron is not fit to look Jordan in the eye.
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Lebron will never be half of what Michael Jordan is.....period.
Spoken like like someone who lives in the past!
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Lebron will never be half of what Michael Jordan is.....period.
Agreed.
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Clown.
No one would buy that bitch's shoes if it wasn't for Jordan. they'd be in walmart with shaq's.
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Lebron is not worthy to put his head under Michaels white towel.
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No one should stare down MJ....
MJ was destroying teams one by one when Lebron could barely wipe shot off his arse
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Jordan doesn't look bothered in the slightest.
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Lebron trains with weights and MJ needs cardio. Bbing related.
He's not even in Jordans world.....
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You fucking guys living in the past. In another 10 years when Lebron retires, they will be saying Michael who.
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You fucking guys living in the past. In another 10 years when Lebron retires, they will be saying Michael who.
LOL...yeah right ::)
MJ is the greatest, hands down. Michael never needed to leave the Bulls to win a title. Lebron chose to join a team with other superstars in order to win.
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LOL...yeah right ::)
MJ is the greatest, hands down. Michael never needed to leave the Bulls to win a title. Lebron chose to join a team with other superstars in order to win.
The Bulls especially during the second three peat were just like Miami, a whole bunch of all stars.
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LeBron would step on Jordan's head on the way to the rim.
Bunch of "back in my day" fat people here
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You fucking guys living in the past. In another 10 years when Lebron retires, they will be saying Michael who.
lol...please
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Jordan doesn't look bothered in the slightest.
Nor should he.
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LeBron would step on Jordan's head on the way to the rim.
Bunch of "back in my day" fat people here
Ha! Jordan wouldnt even need to take Lebron to the hole, he would just drain 3-pointers all day on his ass. That's because unlike Lebron, MJ had something called a jump shot. Could you even touch the rim Groink?
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jordan was awesome... but that "Push off" that he got on byron to sink that game-winner versus the Jazz...
let's just say Lebron woudln't have gotten away with that.
it was the 90s... the era of DYNASTIES. NFL loved the Cowboys and they got gifts. NBA loved Jordan and he got calls. Haney won nonstop titles, then Yates won nonstop titles. They coudln't update MARKETING materials very quickly... I mean, you didn't know who won the Olympia until 3 months after the actual show in the early 90s, unless you were there or your gym owner mentioned it lol...
Nowadays, it doesn't crush GNC to replace a Cutler poster with a Heath poster. It doesn't cost a fortune for the NFL to update their "print" material about the world champion Cowboys. The NBA doesn't "need" a dynasty and isn't making a fortune off an invincible aura that Jordan has... he was a once in 5 lifetimes marketing 'perfect storm' and him losing in the Finals would have cost millions... once he started winning, aside from the Magic series there was no way they could fix lol, he was gonna win it every year.
Look at the youtube clips of the phantom calls against the Knicks every year. They kept giving him the calls when Knicks were up 2-0 in a series, every time. whoever was shutting jordan down would suddenly have 5 fouls at the start of the 3rd quarter lol.
I think lebron started out a spoiled, overhyped baby. I think jordan is a cut-throat badass. But I think in the long run, LBJ is just bigger and better and dominating in the GH era against WORLD athletes. Jordan dominated in the dianabol era with the best the USA had to offer.
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The Bulls especially during the second three peat were just like Miami, a whole bunch of all stars.
Still doesn't argue my point. Players in the NBA nowadays are all about choosing who they wish to play with when they're a free agent. I don't blame anyone for leaving Cleveland but James played for an owner who was committed to winning and adding players to help james win. They won 66 games a few years ago with James and some decent role players. But back then James was choking in the playoffs unlike now.
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http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/j/lebron_james_vs_michael_jordan.htm
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LOL...yeah right ::)
MJ is the greatest, hands down. Michael never needed to leave the Bulls to win a title. Lebron chose to join a team with other superstars in order to win.
He had to leave because he was surrounded by garbage. Jordan could do nothing until he was given Pippen, Grant etc! You certainly don't know your NBA history.
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He had to leave because he was surrounded by garbage. Jordan could do nothing until he was given Pippen, Grant etc! You certainly don't know your NBA history.
And how did Grant and Pippen fair without Jordan? You dont know shit about basketball it seems. You're old too so you have no excuse having watched Jordan his whole career. Lebron might be comparable to Magic at the end of his career, Jordan though? GTFO. You ever play the game at any level?
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And how did Grant and Pippen fair without Jordan? You dont know shit about basketball it seems. You're old too so you have no excuse having watched Jordan his whole career. Lebron might be comparable to Magic at the end of his career, Jordan though? GTFO. You ever play the game at any level?
I'm from Philly, never played organized ball, but played on the parks playgrounds etc. Went to Sixer's games and sat on the floor when they got DR.J. Been watching the NBA for a long time. Every Superstar needs the right pieces around him to win an NBA Championship. Dr. J. needed Moses Malone and so on.
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And how did Grant and Pippen fair without Jordan? You dont know shit about basketball it seems. You're old too so you have no excuse having watched Jordan his whole career. Lebron might be comparable to Magic at the end of his career, Jordan though? GTFO. You ever play the game at any level?
Pippen was one of the 50 best players of all time. He was MVP of the all-star game the year after MJ left, and they kicked ass in the playoffs despite losing MJ.
Heat without leBron.... LMAO... they'd be horrible. Look at Cleveland... from Finals to Lottery with LBJ leaving town. Lebron got to the finals with scrubs. MJ needed Pippen to do it. Pippen was a greater player than Wade. Pippen was just SICK awesome in his prime. He played for 11 seasons with the bulls... so he was OLD when MJ left. Looking at how he did with portland, that's not fair, he was mid to late 30s by then, and drank like a mofo.
Jordan is an awesome tale of working your ass to the top.
LeBron is an awesome example of handed everything and spoiled rotten and "king james" before he finished high school.
But LeBron is better, his legacy will be better. He just has a better body, takes better care of self, and got an earlier start thanks to no college.
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Pippen was one of the 50 best players of all time. He was MVP of the all-star game the year after MJ left, and they kicked ass in the playoffs despite losing MJ.
Heat without leBron.... LMAO... they'd be horrible. Look at Cleveland... from Finals to Lottery with LBJ leaving town. Lebron got to the finals with scrubs. MJ needed Pippen to do it. Pippen was a greater player than Wade. Pippen was just SICK awesome in his prime. He played for 11 seasons with the bulls... so he was OLD when MJ left. Looking at how he did with portland, that's not fair, he was mid to late 30s by then, and drank like a mofo.
Jordan is an awesome tale of working your ass to the top.
LeBron is an awesome example of handed everything and spoiled rotten and "king james" before he finished high school.
But LeBron is better, his legacy will be better. He just has a better body, takes better care of self, and got an earlier start thanks to no college.
mnope, mj>libron http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/j/lebron_james_vs_michael_jordan.htm
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Pippen was one of the 50 best players of all time. He was MVP of the all-star game the year after MJ left, and they kicked ass in the playoffs despite losing MJ.
Heat without leBron.... LMAO... they'd be horrible. Look at Cleveland... from Finals to Lottery with LBJ leaving town. Lebron got to the finals with scrubs. MJ needed Pippen to do it. Pippen was a greater player than Wade. Pippen was just SICK awesome in his prime. He played for 11 seasons with the bulls... so he was OLD when MJ left. Looking at how he did with portland, that's not fair, he was mid to late 30s by then, and drank like a mofo.
Jordan is an awesome tale of working your ass to the top.
LeBron is an awesome example of handed everything and spoiled rotten and "king james" before he finished high school.
But LeBron is better, his legacy will be better. He just has a better body, takes better care of self, and got an earlier start thanks to no college.
lol, All Star Game MVP. Kicked ass? They lost. I'm hoping this is just your normal sarcasm.
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Pippen was one of the 50 best players of all time. He was MVP of the all-star game the year after MJ left, and they kicked ass in the playoffs despite losing MJ.
Heat without leBron.... LMAO... they'd be horrible. Look at Cleveland... from Finals to Lottery with LBJ leaving town. Lebron got to the finals with scrubs. MJ needed Pippen to do it. Pippen was a greater player than Wade. Pippen was just SICK awesome in his prime. He played for 11 seasons with the bulls... so he was OLD when MJ left. Looking at how he did with portland, that's not fair, he was mid to late 30s by then, and drank like a mofo.
Jordan is an awesome tale of working your ass to the top.
LeBron is an awesome example of handed everything and spoiled rotten and "king james" before he finished high school.
But LeBron is better, his legacy will be better. He just has a better body, takes better care of self, and got an earlier start thanks to no college.
People tend to overlook that Jordan AND Pipped got bounced out of the playoffs by the Piston two years in a row. People act like he never lost a tucking game...LOL
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Kobe owns them both
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Jordan stayed out to the wee hours of the morning drinking and
humping fine white hoes "gambling", perhaps he'd have had a better career if he lived more of a bodybuilding lifestyle.
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People tend to overlook that Jordan AND Pipped got bounced out of the playoffs by the Piston two years in a row. People act like he never lost a tucking game...LOL
u amateur say that like pistons were a bunch of rednecks,they were a force twice in a row chasmpns,not a 3 tier Team that beat lebron year after year
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I also thought it was a bit silly the other day when LeBron was asked about the hard fouls he sustained and he was like "if this was the '80s I'd have come up swinging" ::) Says the guy who played his first game in 2003.
I don't recall Jordan staring down the stars of the previous generation as they watched the game.
LeBron is a great player but better than Jordan? Maybe his overall game is comparable. He has some more championships to win to be in that conversation, which right or wrong is the metric by which such players are compared. LeBron will never surpass Jordan for me no matter how many titles/MVPs he wins but I'm a biased child of the Jordan era. He will never be the spectacle/phenomenon Jordan was.
He also comes off as a giant douche most of the time, although I'm sure Jordan would have too if he played in modern times/media.
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People tend to overlook that Jordan AND Pipped got bounced out of the playoffs by the Piston two years in a row. People act like he never lost a tucking game...LOL
No doubt about that! The Piston's beating the shit out of Jordan hardened him and he saw what it took to win a championship. Much like the way the Celts beating the Pistons molded them.
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I also thought it was a bit silly the other day when LeBron was asked about the hard fouls he sustained and he was like "if this was the '80s I'd have come up swinging" ::) Says the guy who played his first game in 2003.
I don't recall Jordan staring down the stars of the previous generation as they watched the game.
LeBron is a great player but better than Jordan? Maybe his overall game is comparable. He has some more championships to win to be in that conversation, which right or wrong is the metric by which such players are compared. LeBron will never surpass Jordan for me no matter how many titles/MVPs he wins but I'm a biased child of the Jordan era. He will never be the spectacle/phenomenon Jordan was.
He also comes off as a giant douche most of the time, although I'm sure Jordan would have too if he played in modern times/media.
The comparison ends when you consider Jordan's jumper was lethal, a thing of beauty. Lebron is a bricklayer, gimme a break. Jordan wasnt all flashy dunks and trick shots when he came back from his abbreviated retirement. His crossover to jumpshot and turnaround jumper were deadly
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LOL...yeah right ::)
MJ is the greatest, hands down. Michael never needed to leave the Bulls to win a title. Lebron chose to join a team with other superstars in order to win.
yeah because scottie pippen and dennis rodman weren't super stars, not to mention the best leader ever in phil jackson
lebron is easily on 28 year old jordan's level
how many titles would jordan have if he played with those bums in cleveland? i'll answer for you, ZERO
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yeah because scottie pippen and dennis rodman weren't super stars, not to mention the best leader ever in phil jackson
lebron is easily on 28 year old jordan's level
how many titles would jordan have if he played with those bums in cleveland? i'll answer for you, ZERO
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The issue can be debated all day. but when you say 'level' what do you mean? overall physical talent? Yes I'd agree with that. But is Lebron on Jordan's level as far as competitive edge? or offensive/defensive awareness? Is Lebron a closer like Jordan was? I don't think so. How many game winning shots has Lebron made compared to Jordan? Jordan was an assassin in basketball shorts. He would roll over his own mother to beat you. I don't think Lebron has that tenacity. Players today are too nice to each other on the court. Too many bro hugs and handshakes before and after the games.
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The comparison ends when you consider Jordan's jumper was lethal, a thing of beauty. Lebron is a bricklayer, gimme a break. Jordan wasnt all flashy dunks and trick shots when he came back from his abbreviated retirement. His crossover to jumpshot and turnaround jumper were deadly
He's gotten better (he hit a long jumper to lock up game 7 of the Finals last year, for example) but Jordan had a more versatile offensive game yes.
Jumpers are a bit overrated since a long two is the worst shot in basketball, but being able to hit or create a shot from anywhere on the floor is also the most useful skill so I still think a good midrange game is important.
LeBron was hitting threes at a very good clip midway through this year but I don't know how he ended up. Jordan was not a good three-point shooter.
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The issue can be debated all day. but when you say 'level' what do you mean? overall physical talent? Yes I'd agree with that. But is Lebron on Jordan's level as far as competitive edge? or offensive/defensive awareness? I don't think so. Jordan was an assassin in basketball shorts. He would roll over his own mother to beat you. I don't think Lebron has that tenacity. Players today are too nice to each other on the court. Too many bro hugs and handshakes before and after the games.
where did this myth that lebron isn't "competitive" start? i swear one talking head blurted that out and then everybody ran with it
does he have to punch a teammate to be "competitive"?
how many titles did jordan have at lebron's age? i would take pippen and rodman (or grant) as teammates over a fading wade and bosh, not to mention jackson over spoelstra
it's not lebron's fault that players prefer playing in glamorous cities over cleveland, no player wins by themselves
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how many titles did jordan have at lebron's age?
LeBron is 29 and this is his 12th year in the NBA
At 29 Jordan had three titles. Depending in how you treat his injury year and his retirement he had between 4-6 titles after 12 years in the NBA.
MJ actually only played 12 full years in the NBA if you ignore the Wizards years.
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LeBron is 29 and this is his 12th year in the NBA
At 29 Jordan had three titles. Depending in how you treat his injury year and his retirement he had between 4-6 titles after 12 years in the NBA.
lebron went straight to the nba out of high school, lebron can have his 3rd title at 29 too
if jordan was on the cavs, how many titles would he have?
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lebron went straight to the nba out of high school, lebron can have his 3rd title at 29 too
if jordan was on the cavs, how many titles would he have?
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That argument doesn't really work in LeBron's favor though (Jordan did it in fewer years). I don't see Miami winning this year but maybe they will surprise me. With as bad as Indiana has been lately they should at least get to the Finals.
If you swap LeBron on those Cavs teams out for Jordan I would say zero titles.
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Lebron took cleveland to finals
Jordan never took wizards to finals
Lebron is winning with spoelstra,? spestea ? Spoltra? Eric? Erik?
Jordan couldnt win without phil jackson
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Spoelstra's not a bad coach.
He's not Phil Jackson though.
The closest Jordan came to taking a team to the Finals by himself was 1998 (last year with Bulls). Pippen missed about half the season with a back injury and was never an elite player again. Rodman was 36 and had lost a step (so had Jordan for that matter).
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There's Jordan, then everyone else.
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where did this myth that lebron isn't "competitive" start? i swear one talking head blurted that out and then everybody ran with it
does he have to punch a teammate to be "competitive"?
how many titles did jordan have at lebron's age? i would take pippen and rodman (or grant) as teammates over a fading wade and bosh, not to mention jackson over spoelstra
it's not lebron's fault that players prefer playing in glamorous cities over cleveland, no player wins by themselves
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I didn't say he wasn't competitive. But he's not on Jordan's 'level' as a closer and competitor. Jordan has punched a teammate before. Ask Steve Kerr.
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Jordan was and is a degenerate gambler that cost his father his life
Jordan wins ???
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Pippen was one of the 50 best players of all time. He was MVP of the all-star game the year after MJ left, and they kicked ass in the playoffs despite losing MJ.
Heat without leBron.... LMAO... they'd be horrible. Look at Cleveland... from Finals to Lottery with LBJ leaving town. Lebron got to the finals with scrubs. MJ needed Pippen to do it. Pippen was a greater player than Wade. Pippen was just SICK awesome in his prime. He played for 11 seasons with the bulls... so he was OLD when MJ left. Looking at how he did with portland, that's not fair, he was mid to late 30s by then, and drank like a mofo.
Jordan is an awesome tale of working your ass to the top.
LeBron is an awesome example of handed everything and spoiled rotten and "king james" before he finished high school.
But LeBron is better, his legacy will be better. He just has a better body, takes better care of self, and got an earlier start thanks to no college.
The Heat would not be terrible if they didn't get Lebron, maybe not 2 more championships and on the verge of a threepeat. D.Wade took them to a championship in 2007 with the help of a lazy Shaq, Zoe and others. Pat Riley would have rebuilt with or without Lebron.
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The Bulls without Jordan (1994) also added Toni Kukoc who was a very good player (the best in Europe at the time).
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Big deal. In the world outside the NBA this amounts to nothing. I stopped watching long ago.
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MJ didn't win a ring until he was 28.
In a more competitive era,
LeBron has been to the Finals 4 times and won 2 titles, and is coasting for at least another Finals trip, at age 29.
ANYWHERE he goes in the league, you'll have stars lined up to play for less $ in order to win 2-3 rings with him.
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MJ didn't win a ring until he was 28.
In a more competitive era,
LeBron has been to the Finals 4 times and won 2 titles, and is coasting for at least another Finals trip, at age 29.
ANYWHERE he goes in the league, you'll have stars lined up to play for less $ in order to win 2-3 rings with him.
With today's rules, Jordan would average 50 per game.
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With today's rules, Jordan would average 50 per game.
But he woudln't have the dynasty. Refs didn't hand series to lebron, and they didn't hand it to duncan either.
He'd be a Durant today. VERY good, and wins some, loses some.
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a lot of fake facts in this thread.
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That argument doesn't really work in LeBron's favor though (Jordan did it in fewer years). I don't see Miami winning this year but maybe they will surprise me. With as bad as Indiana has been lately they should at least get to the Finals.
If you swap LeBron on those Cavs teams out for Jordan I would say zero titles.
so you penalize lebron because he was ready for the nba at a younger age?
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I didn't say he wasn't competitive. But he's not on Jordan's 'level' as a closer and competitor. Jordan has punched a teammate before. Ask Steve Kerr.
i was referring to jordan punching a teammate
also didn't the bulls make the eastern conference finals when jordan played baseball?
i think the cavs became the worst team in the league when lebron left
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so you penalize lebron because he was ready for the nba at a younger age?
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You are either being willfully ignorant or are just straight-up dumb.
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Lebron took cleveland to finals
Jordan never took wizards to finals
Lebron is winning with spoelstra,? spestea ? Spoltra? Eric? Erik?
Jordan couldnt win without phil jackson
Jordan was well past his prime when he joined the Wizards. While I'm sure Washington was thrilled to have MJ & while his numbers were respectable, I don't think the majority of people really expected him to lead them to b-ball glory. How many titles does LeBron have w/o Spoelstra? MJ was 6 for 6 in the finals. What's LeBron's Finals record thus far?
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leborn is a manchild with a brute psihique, all force, minimal understanding of the game, he s just overrated
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leborn is a manchild with a brute psihique, all force, minimal understanding of the game, he s just overrated
You obviously are clueless and know nothing about the NBA. Lebron has one of highest basketball IQ's and is a student of the game.
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leborn is a manchild with a brute psihique, all force, minimal understanding of the game, he s just overrated
that was the case when he was 18. But ten years later, he's very efficient and shrewd on the basketball court. His defensive prowess alone shows that. watch him play - very little wasted movement or energy. Fundamentally, he's very very good. There are a lot of dudes with near-lebron talent that are on the bench someplace. He has a body that is 10% better than everyone else in the league... but that alone isn't enough if he doesn't travel and move and play wisely. One step in an inefficient direction and that fast break doesn't happen.
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that was the case when he was 18. But ten years later, he's very efficient and shrewd on the basketball court. His defensive prowess alone shows that. watch him play - very little wasted movement or energy. Fundamentally, he's very very good. There are a lot of dudes with near-lebron talent that are on the bench someplace. He has a body that is 10% better than everyone else in the league... but that alone isn't enough if he doesn't travel and move and play wisely. One step in an inefficient direction and that fast break doesn't happen.
nope, he s just a brute force player, he s light years from nderstanding the game like mj , or larry did
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nope, he s just a brute force player, he s light years from nderstanding the game like mj , or larry did
nope.
if you looked at Jordan you would get called for a foul, Lebron gets hacked every time his in the post, but refs swallow the whistle.
Jordan was light years ahead of his competitors, john starks and joe dumars. fuck that, bring 90's Jordan to play now he will be second best to lebron...Sorry
Jordan is the greatest, 6 rings. I don't like Magic Johnson, kobe is a better laker then him.
Lebron is better then Kobe, no question, I believe kobe is done, he will be 36 and he will have another injury next season.
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The Heat would not be terrible if they didn't get Lebron, maybe not 2 more championships and on the verge of a threepeat. D.Wade took them to a championship in 2007 with the help of a lazy Shaq, Zoe and others. Pat Riley would have rebuilt with or without Lebron.
I recall this series vividly, wade was super, Alonzo was amazing, shaq was a fat lazy liability. I don't think shaq had more then 2 blocks that whole series, Alonzo was averaging 4 blocks per game. Alonzo helped Miami more then shaq did.
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1946–47 Joe Fulks* F/C Philadelphia Warriors 60 475 — 439 1,389 23.2 [11][12]
1947–48 Max Zaslofsky G/F Chicago Stags 48 373 — 261 1,007 21.0 [14][15]
1948–49 George Mikan* C Minneapolis Lakers 60 583 — 532 1,698 28.3 [16][17]
1949–50 George Mikan* (2) C Minneapolis Lakers 68 649 — 567 1,865 27.4 [17][18]
1950–51 George Mikan* (3) C Minneapolis Lakers 68 678 — 576 1,932 28.4 [17][19]
1951–52 Paul Arizin* F/G Philadelphia Warriors 66 548 — 578 1,674 25.4 [20][21]
1952–53 Neil Johnston* C Philadelphia Warriors 70 504 — 556 1,564 22.3 [22][23]
1953–54 Neil Johnston* (2) C Philadelphia Warriors 72 591 — 577 1,759 24.5 [23][24]
1954–55 Neil Johnston* (3) C Philadelphia Warriors 72 521 — 589 1,631 22.7 [23][25]
1955–56 Bob Pettit* F/C St. Louis Hawks 72 646 — 557 1,849 25.7 [26][27]
1956–57 Paul Arizin* (2) F/G Philadelphia Warriors 71 613 — 591 1,817 25.6 [21][28]
1957–58 George Yardley* F/G Detroit Pistons 72 673 — 655 2,001 27.8 [29][30]
1958–59 Bob Pettit* (2) F/C St. Louis Hawks 72 719 — 667 2,105 29.2 [27][31]
1959–60 Wilt Chamberlain*[c] C Philadelphia Warriors 72 1,065 — 577 2,707 37.6 [32][33]
1960–61 Wilt Chamberlain* (2) C Philadelphia Warriors 79 1,251 — 531 3,033 38.4 [33][34]
1961–62 Wilt Chamberlain* (3)[d] C Philadelphia Warriors 80 1,597 — 835 4,029 50.4 [33][35]
1962–63 Wilt Chamberlain* (4) C San Francisco Warriors 80 1,463 — 660 3,586 44.8 [33][36]
1963–64 Wilt Chamberlain* (5) C San Francisco Warriors 80 1,204 — 540 2,948 36.9 [33][37]
1964–65 Wilt Chamberlain* (6) C San Francisco Warriors
Philadelphia 76ers 73 1,063 — 408 2,534 34.7 [33][38]
1965–66 Wilt Chamberlain* (7) C Philadelphia 76ers 79 1,074 — 501 2,649 33.5 [33][39]
1966–67 Rick Barry* F San Francisco Warriors 78 1,011 — 753 2,775 35.6 [40][41]
1967–68 Dave Bing*[e] G Detroit Pistons 79 835 — 472 2,142 27.1 [44][45]
1968–69 Elvin Hayes*[f] F/C San Diego Rockets 82 930 — 467 2,327 28.4 [46][47]
1969–70 Jerry West*[g] G/F Los Angeles Lakers 74 831 — 647 2,309 31.2 [49][50]
1970–71 Lew Alcindor*[h] C Milwaukee Bucks 82 1,063 — 470 2,596 31.7 [52][53]
1971–72 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* (2) C Milwaukee Bucks 81 1,159 — 504 2,822 34.8 [53][54]
1972–73 Nate "Tiny" Archibald* G Kansas City-Omaha Kings 80 1,028 — 663 2,719 34.0 [55][56]
1973–74 Bob McAdoo* C/F Buffalo Braves 74 901 — 459 2,261 30.6 [57][58]
1974–75 Bob McAdoo* (2) C/F Buffalo Braves 82 1,095 — 641 2,831 34.5 [58][59]
1975–76 Bob McAdoo* (3) C/F Buffalo Braves 78 934 — 559 2,427 31.1 [58][60]
1976–77 Pete Maravich* G New Orleans Jazz 73 886 — 501 2,273 31.1 [61][62]
1977–78 George Gervin* G/F San Antonio Spurs 82 864 — 504 2,232 27.2 [68][69]
1978–79 George Gervin* (2) G/F San Antonio Spurs 80 947 — 471 2,365 29.6 [69][70]
1979–80 George Gervin* (3) G/F San Antonio Spurs 78 1,024 32 505 2,585 33.1 [69][71]
1980–81 Adrian Dantley* F/G Utah Jazz 80 909 2 632 2,452 30.7 [72][73]
1981–82 George Gervin* (4) G/F San Antonio Spurs 79 993 10 555 2,551 32.3 [69][74]
1982–83 Alex English* F Denver Nuggets 82 959 2 406 2,326 28.4 [75][76]
1983–84 Adrian Dantley* (2) F/G Utah Jazz 79 802 1 813 2,418 30.6 [73][77]
1984–85 Bernard King*[j] F New York Knicks 55 691 1 426 1,809 32.9 [79][80]
1985–86 Dominique Wilkins*[k] F/G Atlanta Hawks 78 888 13 577 2,366 30.3 [82][83]
1986–87 Michael Jordan* G Chicago Bulls 82 1,098 12 833 3,041 37.1 [84][85]
1987–88 Michael Jordan* (2) G Chicago Bulls 82 1,069 7 723 2,868 35.0 [85][86]
1988–89 Michael Jordan* (3) G Chicago Bulls 81 966 27 674 2,633 32.5 [85][87]
1989–90 Michael Jordan* (4) G Chicago Bulls 82 1,034 92 593 2,753 33.6 [85][88]
1990–91 Michael Jordan* (5) G Chicago Bulls 82 990 29 571 2,580 31.5 [85][89]
1991–92 Michael Jordan* (6) G Chicago Bulls 80 943 27 491 2,404 30.1 [85][90]
1992–93 Michael Jordan* (7) G Chicago Bulls 78 992 81 476 2,541 32.6 [85][91]
1993–94 David Robinson*[l] C San Antonio Spurs 80 840 10 693 2,383 29.8 [93][94]
1994–95 Shaquille O'Neal C Orlando Magic 79 930 0 455 2,315 29.3 [95][96]
1995–96 Michael Jordan* (8) G Chicago Bulls 82 916 111 548 2,491 30.4 [85][97]
1996–97 Michael Jordan* (9) G Chicago Bulls 82 920 111 480 2,431 29.6 [85][98]
1997–98[m] Michael Jordan* (10) G Chicago Bulls 82 881 30 565 2,357 28.7 [85][100]
1998–99[n] Allen Iverson- G Philadelphia 76ers 48 435 58 356 1,284 26.8 [103][104]
1999–00 Shaquille O'Neal (2) C Los Angeles Lakers 79 956 0 432 2,344 29.7 [96][105]
2000–01 Allen Iverson (2)[p] G Philadelphia 76ers 71 762 98 585 2,207 31.1 [104][107]
2001–02 Allen Iverson (3)[q] G Philadelphia 76ers 60 665 78 475 1,883 31.4 [104][109]
2002–03 Tracy McGrady[r] G/F Orlando Magic 75 829 173 576 2,407 32.1 [111][112]
2003–04 Tracy McGrady (2) G/F Orlando Magic 67 653 174 398 1,878 28.0 [112]
2004–05 Allen Iverson (4) G Philadelphia 76ers 75 771 104 656 2,302 30.7 [104]
2005–06 Kobe Bryant^ G Los Angeles Lakers 80 978 180 696 2,832 35.4 [114]
2006–07 Kobe Bryant^ (2) G Los Angeles Lakers 77 813 137 667 2,430 31.6 [114]
2007–08 LeBron James^[t] F Cleveland Cavaliers 75 794 113 549 2,250 30.0 [116]
2008–09 Dwyane Wade^ G Miami Heat 79 854 88 590 2,386 30.2 [117]
2009–10 Kevin Durant^ F Oklahoma City Thunder 82 794 128 756 2,472 30.1 [119]
2010–11 Kevin Durant^ (2) F Oklahoma City Thunder 78 711 145 594 2,161 27.7 [119]
2011–12[v] Kevin Durant^ (3)[w] F Oklahoma City Thunder 66 643 133 431 1,850 28.0 [119]
2012–13 Carmelo Anthony^- F New York Knicks 67 669 157 425 1,920 28.7 [123]
2013–14 Kevin Durant^ (4) F Oklahoma City Thunder 81 849 192 703 2,593 32.0
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so mj was 10 time nba scoring leader and libron once.. close, he s really close
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:D
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Good to see you back posting about the NBA Quick.
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so mj was 10 time nba scoring leader and libron once.. close, he s really close
Lebron has no desire to lead the NBA in scoring, he can if he wanted to.
Kevin Durant is going to be ringless no matter how many scoring titles he has.
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Good to see you back posting about the NBA Quick.
Thanks mate,
I have been off getbig for a while due to other commitments, but this is the perfect time to come back.
we should set up 2014 NBA playoff thread.
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Lebron has no desire to lead the NBA in scoring, he can if he wanted to.
Kevin Durant is going to be ringless no matter how many scoring titles he has.
the pint u dont get its that jordan was the all time scoring leader 10 times, and still has three times more rings than lebron.. . 6 rings vs 2; 10 time scoring leader vs 1 time.. u understand why lebron its a litle micorbian creature next to mj?
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:D
Thanks for that. Dr.J is solely responsible for reviving the NBA when it was dying in the early to mid 70's. Got to see him play and met and talked to him several times. Class and cool personified.
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Thanks mate,
I have been off getbig for a while due to other commitments, but this is the perfect time to come back.
we should set up 2014 NBA playoff thread.
There is still the one I started last year in the Sports thread, but we can get one going here.
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Anyone arguing that this is a cut-and-dry "one of them is clearly much better than the other" case is foolish and ignorant.
They are very different players style-wise which is part of what makes it such an interesting and debatable question.
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the pint u dont get its that jordan was the all time scoring leader 10 times, and still has three times more rings than lebron.. . 6 rings vs 2; 10 time scoring leader vs 1 time.. u understand why lebron its a litle micorbian creature next to mj?
I get your point and respect it, but please understand lebron has about 6-8 seasons left to win each and every time, theres barely any competition to match him, the only player that can physically match lebron is Dwight howard and his a full on loser and about to go fishing soon.
The reality is there is hardcore M.Jordan's fans that will never admit then anyone is or could be better.
Like Hardcore Michael Jackson fans thinking he was the king of pop, after BAD he went to shit..no more world or national tours, he just stayed home and became a junkie, a drug addict. But his fans are quick to deny it.
M.Jackson was amazing when he wanted to be, then the drugs kicked in.
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Anyone arguing that this is a cut-and-dry "one of them is clearly much better than the other" case is foolish and ignorant.
They are very different players style-wise which is part of what makes it such an interesting and debatable question.
6 rings vs 2 rings; 10 time scoring leader vs 1 time.. whats to debate here?
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There is still the one I started last year in the Sports thread, but we can get one going here.
start it Ronnie, just link me and see you there, will try get arce back to
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Anyone arguing that this is a cut-and-dry "one of them is clearly much better than the other" case is foolish and ignorant.
They are very different players style-wise which is part of what makes it such an interesting and debatable question.
Not really, Jordan would never have lost an NBA finals with the squad Lebron had, you realise Jordan never lost a playoff series when his team had an equal or better regular season record as his opponent?Lebron lost against a far worse Dallas team.Jordan would never have been held to 18ppg in an NBA finals, and shut down by a 6'4 40yr Jason Kidd.
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Others%20Masterpiece/0%20queen%20lebron%20james/jordan-lebron-airball-miss.gif)
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Anyone arguing that this is a cut-and-dry "one of them is clearly much better than the other" case is foolish and ignorant.
They are very different players style-wise which is part of what makes it such an interesting and debatable question.
Agreed, we shouldn't even be having this discussion until Lebron is ready to retire.
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Not really, Jordan would never have lost an NBA finals with the squad Lebron had, you realise Jordan never lost a playoff series when his team had an equal or better regular season record as his opponent?Lebron lost against a far worse Dallas team.Jordan would never have been held to 18ppg in an NBA finals, and shut down by a 6'4 40yr Jason Kidd.
lebron froze in that finals, he got better ever since.
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lebron froze in that finals, he got better ever since.
Not really, only a complete meltdown by San Antonio in the last 30 seconds of Game 6 costing them the finals, and a prayer by Allen saved them last year, had shit to do with Lebron.I don't recall Jordan ever needing a game 7 in the NBA finals.
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Not really, only a complete meltdown by San Antonio in the last 30 seconds of Game 6 costing them the finals, and a prayer by Allen saved them last year, had shit to do with Lebron.I don't recall Jordan ever needing a game 7 in the NBA finals.
Excuses and revisionist history.
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Excuses and revisionist history.
How is it revisionist, jordan never left a finals to fate and a game 7, he sealed them in 6.fact is, the only time Jordan lost in the playoffs was when his team had a worst record than his opponents.How many times has Lebron lost to a team with a worse record than his?I cant be be bothered to look it up but it was once with Miami and at least 3 times with Cleveland, as an all time great, thats the very definition of choking.
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Jordan is killa in every aspect of his life. Lebron is a guy who's been babied in every aspect of his life.
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I barely follow basketball but considering I live in the UK, everyone knows who Jordan is, and barely anyone knows James. That's just how it is, and that was before the internet that Jordan became a worldwide star. There will never be another like that IMO.
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Like I said before in this thread, lets revisit this 5 years or so down the road when Lebron decides to hang it up.
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Great point!
I barely follow basketball but considering I live in the UK, everyone knows who Jordan is, and barely anyone knows James. That's just how it is, and that was before the internet that Jordan became a worldwide star. There will never be another like that IMO.
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Excuses and revisionist history.
Just look at this "new age" chump.
The man gives you facts and you call it "revisionist history".
What the hell is wrong with you, retard?
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lebron swept Jordan's team out of the playoffs. Jordan will never see another ring again.
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Lebron and D. Wade paid there respect to Michael after they swept his Bobcats.
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The reality is there is hardcore M.Jordan's fans that will never admit then anyone is or could be better.
Like Hardcore Michael Jackson fans thinking he was the king of pop, after BAD he went to shit..no more world or national tours, he just stayed home and became a junkie, a drug addict. But his fans are quick to deny it.
M.Jackson was amazing when he wanted to be, then the drugs kicked in.
complete change of topic!!!
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You are either being willfully ignorant or are just straight-up dumb.
based on what? lebron averaged 20 points a game as an 18 year old kid while playing with jobbers, yet some of you act like jordan is superior because he had a title earlier in his career
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based on what? lebron averaged 20 points a game as an 18 year old kid while playing with jobbers, yet some of you act like jordan is superior because he had a title earlier in his career
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It's weird how you barely post anymore but as soon as you say something, someone gets on your case. You're a lightning rod of controvsery, Earl.
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Who was the best player Lebron played with in Cleveland? The second best? Freakin Mo william? He took that garbage squad to the finals. MJ didn't win anything till Pippen got There. After he retired the first time, that team still won over 50 games! The Cavs have been in the lottery ever since.
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And then there's this...
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And then there's this...
He's no Shawn Kemp.
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its not even close
MJ is a once in a century basketball player
James is a once in a decade player
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oh boy.... blake? entirely average, overrated. they want him to be a star so bad, but he's invisible when it matters.
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It's weird how you barely post anymore but as soon as you say something, someone gets on your case. You're a lightning rod of controvsery, Earl.
that's true, and i try to be nice these days
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