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I don't know whether he should celebrate or not....Geez, the Rams are not exactly playing great football lately. History has been made though.
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Might not make team. Let's wait and see.
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Might not make team. Let's wait and see.
It will be difficult for him to get past Pre-Season....but he can always... "zip up"
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I think there are a ton of gay players already in the NFL and there have been since the start of course. I am willing to bet at least 75 percent to 90 percent of football fans are gay or have had some sort of gay experience. Its about time they own up to it.
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I think there are a ton of gay players already in the NFL and there have been since the start of course. I am willing to bet at least 75 percent to 90 percent of football fans are gay or have had some sort of gay experience. Its about time they own up to it.
Weak troll attempt....you're really losing it lately.
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I don't know whether he should celebrate or not....Geez, the Rams are not exactly playing great football lately. History has been made though.
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History? How? Because of the media and people like yourself. You just made Sam a distraction. Now the topic of a Ram game is going to him being openly gay instead of him being a potential play maker. And if he doesn't make the squad because of lack ability, the gay rights activists are going to make it a homophobe issue. Right Vince?
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He won't do well in the league. Sorry Vince
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History? How? Because of the media and people like yourself. You just made Sam a distraction. Now the topic of a Ram game is going to him being openly gay instead of him being a potential play maker. And if he doesn't make the squad because of lack ability, the gay rights activists are going to make it a homophobe issue. Right Vince?
For once, we agree... this makes me worried!
I have no idea if he's a good player or not and have very little interest in the game; in fact, I didn't even know who this guy was before I saw this topic. But when it comes down to it I just don't see what the guy's sexuality has to do with playing. I hope the kid has a long and successful career and that he manages to become famous for his skill and work ethic as opposed to his sexual orientation.
Personally, the behavior of both sides in the "gay wars" seems pretty fucked up. On the one side, there's the group who thinks that gays should be able to proudly gyrate their hips and thrust in my general direction and that's a-ok and I must take like a man, with a smile on my face. On the other side, there's the group that thinks that gays ought to just live repressed lives as almost-second-class citizens. Why can't people just be people? If you're straight, great. If you're gay great. I don't care. Live your life, pursuing happiness and being a good person, keep others out of your bedroom and stay out of theirs.
P.S.: Joe, I think that I just collapsed your entire world-view, such as it is, by agreeing with you. The implications of this are monumental.
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If you're straight, great. If you're gay great. I don't care. Live your life, pursuing happiness and being a good person, keep others out of your bedroom and stay out of theirs.
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For once, we agree... this makes me worried!
I have no idea if he's a good player or not and have very little interest in the game; in fact, I didn't even know who this guy was before I saw this topic. But when it comes down to it I just don't see what the guy's sexuality has to do with playing. I hope the kid has a long and successful career and that he manages to become famous for his skill and work ethic as opposed to his sexual orientation.
Personally, the behavior of both sides in the "gay wars" seems pretty fucked up. On the one side, there's the group who thinks that gays should be able to proudly gyrate their hips and thrust in my general direction and that's a-ok and I must take like a man, with a smile on my face. On the other side, there's the group that thinks that gays ought to just live repressed lives as almost-second-class citizens. Why can't people just be people? If you're straight, great. If you're gay great. I don't care. Live your life, pursuing happiness and being a good person, keep others out of your bedroom and stay out of theirs.
P.S.: Joe, I think that I just collapsed your entire world-view by agreeing with you. The implications of this are monumental.
First and formost this kid is a football player. As you know I'm a conservative and I think what the media is doing is bullshit by making this a gay thing instead of a football thing. Sam said himself this was about football. If the kid plays, make it about football. Anytime you get chosen in a draft at any pick, you're a talented player. Let the kid do his thing and leave the personal shit out of it.
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First and formost this kid is a football player. As you know I'm a conservative and I think what the media is doing is bullshit by making this a gay thing instead of a football thing. Sam said himself this was about football. If the kid plays, make it about football. Anytime you get chosen in a draft at any pick, you're a talented player. Let the kid do his thing and leave the personal shit out of it.
As I said, I agree with you 100% on this issue. It shouldn't matter what his orientation is - it should be about his skill.
Knowing nothing about this case, beyond the brief bits of this video that I watched, did it really become an issue by the media? I'd expect that it would - the media is hungry for any story to feed to the 24-hours news cycle, but I'm just trying to figure out what the angle was?
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Is there any substantial changes?
I mean separate lockers for different sexes has been a standard for a long time.
What about openly gay men and women? Should they have their own showers etc.
I mean of course they can use the ones before and not be aroused. I could propably do it in a ladies side.
But I would be definetely checking around whats on the menu...
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Maybe the 3% of the population that is gay could just stfu and try to blend in? ???
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Maybe the 3% of the population that is gay could just stfu and try to blend in? ???
I'm curious how you want them to blend in, exactly? What, specifically, should they do?
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I'm curious how you want them to blend in, exactly? What, specifically, should they do?
Whatever it was that they did prior to the 1960's.
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Whatever it was that they did prior to the 1960's.
Hide in fear? Sorry. Ain't going to happen
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Whatever it was that they did prior to the 1960's.
I take it you have a similar opinion about Americans of color? If you don't, then what is the difference between skin color and sexual orientation?
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I take it you have a similar opinion about Americans of color? If you don't, then what is the difference between skin color and sexual orientation?
I'm not arguing that anyone should be oppressed. I'm just not sure sexual orientation should be so disproportionately empathized and even propagandized. Lets focus our attention as a Nation on something worthwhile.
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Hide in fear? Sorry. Ain't going to happen
Settle down Gloria, you have nothing to fear...
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Ahhhhhhhhhh Wtf wad that..... ???
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Should have been drafted by the Green Bay fudgepackers.
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I think there are a ton of gay players already in the NFL and there have been since the start of course. I am willing to bet at least 75 percent to 90 percent of football fans are gay or have had some sort of gay experience. Its about time they own up to it.
That's right man - those jocks are all losers. If they weren't fags they wouldn't have best me up and called me a big eared pussy. You play any sports TA?? Didn't think so
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He won't do well in the league. Sorry Vince
That depends on training camp. He'll have to get a little stronger and bring up the speed a bit. But that's generally the case for any player. College players will have to adapt to playing in a more brutal landscrape
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Be prepared for the flood of accusations of homophobia if he doesn't make it in the NFL.
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Tweener. Too small for a DE. Not fast enough for a LB. Might make it as a situational pass rusher and special teams.
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For once, we agree... this makes me worried!
I have no idea if he's a good player or not and have very little interest in the game; in fact, I didn't even know who this guy was before I saw this topic. But when it comes down to it I just don't see what the guy's sexuality has to do with playing. I hope the kid has a long and successful career and that he manages to become famous for his skill and work ethic as opposed to his sexual orientation.
Personally, the behavior of both sides in the "gay wars" seems pretty fucked up. On the one side, there's the group who thinks that gays should be able to proudly gyrate their hips and thrust in my general direction and that's a-ok and I must take like a man, with a smile on my face. On the other side, there's the group that thinks that gays ought to just live repressed lives as almost-second-class citizens. Why can't people just be people? If you're straight, great. If you're gay great. I don't care. Live your life, pursuing happiness and being a good person, keep others out of your bedroom and stay out of theirs.
P.S.: Joe, I think that I just collapsed your entire world-view, such as it is, by agreeing with you. The implications of this are monumental.
I just caught the fine print, lol
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Hide in fear? Sorry. Ain't going to happen
No one was ever hiding in fear, Tim. Truthfully no one really cares what's done behind closed doors. The problem is pushing the agenda and shoving it down the throats (figuratively speaking) of society by making it an issue in schools, flamboyant parades, the media by pushing tolerance. Fact is most people are tolerant whether they agree with the lifestyle or not.
But one of the most ridiculous things is calling people who don't agree with your lifestyle "homophobes". It's like a liberal calling someone racist because Obama is doing a horrible job. Open the blinders.
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I don't know whether he should celebrate or not....Geez, the Rams are not exactly playing great football lately. History has been made though.
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Maybe you like Vissy on your ass but no one wants a gay guy on them in the pile.
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I just caught the fine print, lol
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It matters not who is "right" and who is "wrong" but rather what is true.
I for one, don't care to watch anyone tongue wrestle in public. Man and woman. Man and man. Woman and woman. I don't want to see it.
I can accept that someone is homosexual. I don't have to agree with them but I will treat them as I would anyone, with respect until they by their behavior show otherwise. I have know more than a few homosexual men in my lifetime and of those, the ones that I would call friend never once asked me to "give it a try". Sexuality is not the center of my life. Some here might cry, "But what about your faith?"
I don't broadcast that with stupid ignorant pronouncements but instead simply try to live it. I am not always successful with that, I admit. ;D Which would you rather have, someone that screams "Jayzus is Lawd!" or one that lives their faith quietly so that their actions speak louder than the words of the aforementioned idiot?
Of course then you have me. A guy that has no problem getting in the face of an idiot that hates Christians because they hate what Christ stands for. I have zero problem with any Atheist, but an assholist is an entirely different creature and among those I would count more than a few preachers and ministers, believe me. Admittedly, I am something of a grouch about that and again, accept that as how I have chosen to respond to certain people here and in the real world.
To me, public displays of affection are pretty much relegated to holding hands and perhaps a light peck on the lips/cheek. Its when these become blatant displays of sex or more pubic displays that I cry foul. Again, I have no desire to see anyone bump and grind in public. If your entire life revolves around your scrotum, then I say you live in a small, small, world.
Regardless of your orientation, if you can't keep it in your pants, at least do me the honor of keeping it out of my way.
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OK, this thread is now really starting to creep me out! I agree with TheScott as well!
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I take it you have a similar opinion about Americans of color? If you don't, then what is the difference between skin color and sexual orientation?
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No one was ever hiding in fear, Tim.
I'm sure Matthew Shepard and Brandon Teena, and all the other nameless gay men and lesbians that have been brutally murdered, were not "in fear" as they were, or about to be, beaten to death. Prior to the birth of the gay rights movement in 1969, it was common in every city in the U.S. for the police to simply go into gay bars and arrest everyone. Just for them being there.
Truthfully no one really cares what's done behind closed doors... Fact is most people are tolerant whether they agree with the lifestyle or not.
Baloney. Tell that to all the religious political organizations, and especially the Republican Party. The Republican Party, at all levels, local, state, and federal, have fought against every single piece of gay equality legislation for more than 35 years. Just today, a Republican state senator in Arkansas wants to impeach the judge who ruled their state's marriage ban unconstitutional. And the Republicans sure want to tell women what to do with their bodies, when it comes to pregnancy. And I am also sure the Republicans would lead the way on de-criminalizing anabolic steroids. So much for individual freedom.
The problem is pushing the agenda and shoving it down the throats (figuratively speaking) of society by making it an issue in schools, flamboyant parades, the media by pushing tolerance.
Until LBGT Americans have full equality, the media and "shoving it down the throats" will continue. Once gay marriage is legal in all 50 states, the issue of gay marriage will never be discussed again. When the next openly gay college football player is drafted, him being gay will barely be mentioned. Until those days come, we will be having this public discussion.
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I'm sure Matthew Shepard and Brandon Teena, and all the other nameless gay men and lesbians that have been brutally murdered, were not "in fear" as they were, or about to be, beaten to death. Prior to the birth of the gay rights movement in 1969, it was common in every city in the U.S. for the police to simply go into gay bars and arrest everyone. Just for them being there.
Baloney. Tell that to all the religious political organizations, and especially the Republican Party. The Republican Party, at all levels, local, state, and federal, have fought against every single piece of gay equality legislation for more than 35 years. Just today, a Republican state senator in Arkansas wants to impeach the judge who ruled their state's marriage ban unconstitutional. And the Republicans sure want to tell women what to do with their bodies, when it comes to pregnancy. And I am also sure the Republicans would lead the way on de-criminalizing anabolic steroids. So much for individual freedom.
Until LBGT Americans have full equality, the media and "shoving it down the throats" will continue. Once gay marriage is legal in all 50 states, the issue of gay marriage will never be discussed again. When the next openly gay college football player is drafted, him being gay will barely be mentioned. Until those days come, we will be having this public discussion.
What does gay marriage have to do with an openly gay football player? Many gays have played in the NFL. They played the game, did their job, and left their personal life out of it. They were football players by trade and didn't need to be known as gay to define them.
In this instance the people pushing the story are pushing the gay angle first, because there's not much football angle to push. Michael Sam knows the pecking order and knows he's a fringe NFL player at best. This isn't about equality, it's about the forced acceptance methodology the gays are using. Kind of like demanding respect instead of earning it.
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Be prepared for the flood of accusations of homophobia if he doesn't make it in the NFL.
Exactly! He sucked at the combine (no pun intended), reportedly benching 225 a mere 17 times. He was 7 picks shy of being "Mr. Irrevelant". Even I didn't think he'd be that low. I saw him going 5th round.
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Interesting side note: The first NFL team to sign a black player was the Los Angeles Rams. Kenny Washington, March 21, 1946.
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Interesting side note: The first NFL team to sign a black player was the Los Angeles Rams. Kenny Washington, March 21, 1946.
Not very interesting, or relevant... :P
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If the jokes haven't already started, I can see them now after this draft pick.
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Exactly what I was talking about. The left could careless about football. It's all about their agenda...
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Exactly what I was talking about. The left could careless about football. It's all about their agenda...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/11/obama-congratulates-michael-sam-first-openly-gay-n/
Cultural Marxist Propaganda 24/7
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Rams, haha.
PC is now ruining all sports.
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I'm sure Matthew Shepard and Brandon Teena, and all the other nameless gay men and lesbians that have been brutally murdered, were not "in fear" as they were, or about to be, beaten to death. Prior to the birth of the gay rights movement in 1969, it was common in every city in the U.S. for the police to simply go into gay bars and arrest everyone. Just for them being there.
You just named a couple of people and others have been murdered as well because of their lifestyle choice (gay). People are murdered and victims of violent crimes everyday and off the top of my head I don't think gay violence or murders are exactly topping the list.
Baloney. Tell that to all the religious political organizations, and especially the Republican Party. The Republican Party, at all levels, local, state, and federal, have fought against every single piece of gay equality legislation for more than 35 years. Just today, a Republican state senator in Arkansas wants to impeach the judge who ruled their state's marriage ban unconstitutional. And the Republicans sure want to tell women what to do with their bodies, when it comes to pregnancy. And I am also sure the Republicans would lead the way on de-criminalizing anabolic steroids. So much for individual freedom.
Not even going to comment on this because we could go back and forth for a thousand pages on this and the leftist agenda that NEVER works.
Until LBGT Americans have full equality, the media and "shoving it down the throats" will continue. Once gay marriage is legal in all 50 states, the issue of gay marriage will never be discussed again. When the next openly gay college football player is drafted, him being gay will barely be mentioned. Until those days come, we will be having this public discussion.
But as soon as Christian professes his/her Christianity openly or someone puts a religious symbol in their own front yard, it's a never ending berate of bullshit. You say Christians shove religion down peoples throats all the while you're running around naked in front of children during Gay pride parades. I don't give a fuck what you do in private or even in the open as long as you can stay somewhat dignified in front of others. The overly flamboyant act is bullshit just the same way when I see two hetros making out and slobbering all over themselves in public.
I have no problem what so ever about an athlete being gay. Why? If you take a look at the way Michael Sam has been handling himself throughout this entire ordeal since the combine, he has carried himself professionally, with dignity and class. Do I agree with his lifestyle, no, but I'm not going to do what the left did to Tebow because they didn't agree with his Christianity and being open with it.
I want to see football, not the media or the LBGT chime in with their political bullshit. YOU are going to be the demise of this guy if he should happen to get cut for any other reason than his skill...why? Because the fuckheads on the left and the left wing minion and the fuckhead in the whitehouse are going to bring a circus where ever he goes and whatever he does that GM's won't want this guy simply because of the media distractions.
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Coaches could careless about a 40 time. They're looking for an explosive 10/20 yard split. Mostly 10 yards.
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I heard they made another forum just for this like this. :P
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=52.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=52.0)
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what the left did to Tebow
Tebow is'nt in the league because of what defenses did to tebow lol.
he rode an awesome defense and kicking game + unique style nobody had film on + tons of excitement to a nice little streak.
since then, he's sucked. Defenses eat him up. in that final preseason game, he had to pull out a magic win to barely escape the 4th string scrubs that would have been out of the league in a week.
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Tebow is'nt in the league because of what defenses did to tebow lol.
he rode an awesome defense and kicking game + unique style nobody had film on + tons of excitement to a nice little streak.
since then, he's sucked. Defenses eat him up. in that final preseason game, he had to pull out a magic win to barely escape the 4th string scrubs that would have been out of the league in a week.
SSShhhh.
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You just named a couple of people and others have been murdered as well because of their lifestyle choice (gay). People are murdered and victims of violent crimes everyday and off the top of my head I don't think gay violence or murders are exactly topping the list.
I think your attitude in discounting this as "a couple of people" to be remarkably cavalier. These are human beings we're talking about, both of whom were brutally murdered. Sure, there's violent crime all everywhere, but that's not an excuse. You may the statistics listed on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States) to be quite sobering. The fact is that people who are not straight (or are not perceived as straight) are at a much higher risk of being victimized. This isn't fantasy. This isn't liberal media bias. This is just what the numbers show.
But as soon as Christian professes his/her Christianity openly or someone puts a religious symbol in their own front yard, it's a never ending berate of bullshit.
I don't think the bit about people putting religious symbols on their own front yard is accurate. Barring zoning restrictions (which apply regardless of content) I don't think I've ever heard of a Christian being harassed for what he puts up on his front yard, and if I had, I'd be supporting him.
Now, government putting religious symbols on its front yard is quite another topic...
You say Christians shove religion down peoples throats all the while you're running around naked in front of children during Gay pride parades.
People really run around naked during Gay pride parades? Really? Come on now... I find that a little hard to believe, if you'll pardon the pun. While I'm sure that there are some sights that you might personally find distasteful (I know there are) but I don't exaggerate...
I don't give a fuck what you do in private or even in the open as long as you can stay somewhat dignified in front of others. The overly flamboyant act is bullshit just the same way when I see two hetros making out and slobbering all over themselves in public.
Absolutely agreed. Again, the gender of consenting adults is irrelevant to me; how those adults choose to live their life and smoosh their privates together isn't my concern. Hell, I don't even care about mild flirting or public displays of affection. But I don't want to see you dry-humping anymore than you want to see me dry-humping. And to be clear: it's not about sexual orientation. It's about common decency.
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It matters not who is "right" and who is "wrong" but rather what is true.
I for one, don't care to watch anyone tongue wrestle in public. Man and woman. Man and man. Woman and woman. I don't want to see it.
I can accept that someone is homosexual. I don't have to agree with them but I will treat them as I would anyone, with respect until they by their behavior show otherwise. I have know more than a few homosexual men in my lifetime and of those, the ones that I would call friend never once asked me to "give it a try". Sexuality is not the center of my life. Some here might cry, "But what about your faith?"
I don't broadcast that with stupid ignorant pronouncements but instead simply try to live it. I am not always successful with that, I admit. ;D Which would you rather have, someone that screams "Jayzus is Lawd!" or one that lives their faith quietly so that their actions speak louder than the words of the aforementioned idiot?
Of course then you have me. A guy that has no problem getting in the face of an idiot that hates Christians because they hate what Christ stands for. I have zero problem with any Atheist, but an assholist is an entirely different creature and among those I would count more than a few preachers and ministers, believe me. Admittedly, I am something of a grouch about that and again, accept that as how I have chosen to respond to certain people here and in the real world.
To me, public displays of affection are pretty much relegated to holding hands and perhaps a light peck on the lips/cheek. Its when these become blatant displays of sex or more pubic displays that I cry foul. Again, I have no desire to see anyone bump and grind in public. If your entire life revolves around your scrotum, then I say you live in a small, small, world.
Regardless of your orientation, if you can't keep it in your pants, at least do me the honor of keeping it out of my way.
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Lame attempt at being both humorous and relevant.
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What does gay marriage have to do with an openly gay football player?
It's all about LGBT Americans being treated equally, fairly, and openly. Just like everyone should be. Fifteen or twenty years ago, and certainly longer, an openly gay football player would never have been drafted or would have been kicked out of the league. The NFL would have used the same bullshit the military used, that a gay player is disruptive to team cohesiveness.
Many gays have played in the NFL. They played the game, did their job, and left their personal life out of it. They were football players by trade and didn't need to be known as gay to define them.
Yup. In the 1980's I knew a Cleveland Browns player that was gay. And it's gossiped that the great Lyle Alzado died from HIV, not steroid abuse. The reason the players "left their personal life out of it" because if they had announced to the public they were gay, they would have been kicked off the team and out of the league. They lived in fear.
This isn't about equality, it's about the forced acceptance methodology the gays are using. Kind of like demanding respect instead of earning it.
It is about equality. How can you respect a gay person, if you don't know the person is gay to start with?
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How can you respect a gay person, if you don't know the person is gay to start with?
Respect is built on much more than who you're fucking... Excluding our respect for Galeniko of course.
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It is about equality. How can you respect a gay person, if you don't know the person is gay to start with?
It's easy: You see, unlike you, I respect people. Their sexual orientation, their gender, their race, their height... none of those things matter to me. Shocking, I know.
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Because the fuckheads on the left and the left wing minion and the fuckhead in the whitehouse are going to bring a circus where ever he goes and whatever he does that GM's won't want this guy simply because of the media distractions.
This is because the fuckheads on the right, the right wing media, and the previous fuckhead in the White House, all believe that LGBT Americans should live their lives hidden in the closet, in fear, out of sight, and be less equal Americans than all other Americans.
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bay likey :)
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bay likey :)
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It's all about LGBT Americans being treated equally, fairly, and openly. Just like everyone should be. Fifteen or twenty years ago, and certainly longer, an openly gay football player would never have been drafted or would have been kicked out of the league. The NFL would have used the same bullshit the military used, that a gay player is disruptive to team cohesiveness.
It is about equality. How can you respect a gay person, if you don't know the person is gay to start with?
Oh, so once gays have the right to marry they will consider themselves as equals? Okay.....
I'd say when it comes to respecting someone, knowing their sexual orientation isn't even a concern of mine.
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Drafted to the St. Louis Rams, said Sam, I am.
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After Posting Negative Tweets about Michael Sam, NFL Player Fined, Excused from Team
Miami Dolphins safety Don Jones was fined an undisclosed amount Sunday and will undergo educational training after sending a negative tweet about Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to be selected in the NFL draft.
Shortly after the St. Louis Rams took Sam in the seventh round Saturday, Jones tweeted “OMG” and “Horrible.” The tweets were taken down a short time later.
Jones apologized for his comments Sunday and described them as inappropriate. The Dolphins said Jones has been excused from all team activities until he completes training related to his comments.
(Excerpt) Read more http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/11/after-posting-negative-tweets-about-michael-sam-nfl-player-fined-excused-from-team-until-he-completes-educational-training/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons
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After Posting Negative Tweets about Michael Sam, NFL Player Fined, Excused from Team
Miami Dolphins safety Don Jones was fined an undisclosed amount Sunday and will undergo educational training after sending a negative tweet about Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to be selected in the NFL draft.
Shortly after the St. Louis Rams took Sam in the seventh round Saturday, Jones tweeted “OMG” and “Horrible.” The tweets were taken down a short time later.
Jones apologized for his comments Sunday and described them as inappropriate. The Dolphins said Jones has been excused from all team activities until he completes training related to his comments.
(Excerpt) Read more http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/11/after-posting-negative-tweets-about-michael-sam-nfl-player-fined-excused-from-team-until-he-completes-educational-training/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons
Intolerance will not be tolerated...
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After Posting Negative Tweets about Michael Sam, NFL Player Fined, Excused from Team
Miami Dolphins safety Don Jones was fined an undisclosed amount Sunday and will undergo educational training after sending a negative tweet about Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to be selected in the NFL draft.
Shortly after the St. Louis Rams took Sam in the seventh round Saturday, Jones tweeted “OMG” and “Horrible.” The tweets were taken down a short time later.
Jones apologized for his comments Sunday and described them as inappropriate. The Dolphins said Jones has been excused from all team activities until he completes training related to his comments.
(Excerpt) Read more http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/11/after-posting-negative-tweets-about-michael-sam-nfl-player-fined-excused-from-team-until-he-completes-educational-training/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons
And it begins... jeez.
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Jones became the second Dolphins player in the past several days to make controversial statements on social media. When Miami drafted first-round pick Ja'Wuan James on Thursday, Pro Bowl center Mike Pouncey tweeted "I can't wait for our gifts he's getting us." The comment was in poor taste following the Ted Wells report last February, where Pouncey and former teammates Richie Incognito and John Jerry were cited for bullying and harassing former Dolphin Jonathan Martin.
Pouncey shut down his Twitter account after meeting with the Dolphins' brass this weekend.
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Drafted to the St. Louis Rams, said Sam, I am.
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After Posting Negative Tweets about Michael Sam, NFL Player Fined, Excused from Team
Miami Dolphins safety Don Jones was fined an undisclosed amount Sunday and will undergo educational training after sending a negative tweet about Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to be selected in the NFL draft.
Shortly after the St. Louis Rams took Sam in the seventh round Saturday, Jones tweeted “OMG” and “Horrible.” The tweets were taken down a short time later.
Jones apologized for his comments Sunday and described them as inappropriate. The Dolphins said Jones has been excused from all team activities until he completes training related to his comments.
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I heard this on the radio today and couldn't believe it. He's forced to go to schooling because of that? It's not like he went on a gay slur rant.
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Is the Antonio cromartie quote true? Social media reporting it, not sure if real
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Is the Antonio cromartie quote true? Social media reporting it, not sure if real
Obama called this twink on the phone. Funny - his asshole wife is wasting our tine w hashtags and he is calling twinks. No wonder things are sp fd up
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It's all about LGBT Americans being treated equally, fairly, and openly. Just like everyone should be. Fifteen or twenty years ago, and certainly longer, an openly gay football player would never have been drafted or would have been kicked out of the league. The NFL would have used the same bullshit the military used, that a gay player is disruptive to team cohesiveness.
Yup. In the 1980's I knew a Cleveland Browns player that was gay. And it's gossiped that the great Lyle Alzado died from HIV, not steroid abuse. The reason the players "left their personal life out of it" because if they had announced to the public they were gay, they would have been kicked off the team and out of the league. They lived in fear.
It is about equality. How can you respect a gay person, if you don't know the person is gay to start with?
People are respected for the way they conduct themselves in society and not because they're black, white, gay or otherwise. Again, I don't have to agree with their lifestyle to respect them. If a gay person is professionally successful and conducts him/her self as a professional why shouldn't they be treated with respect? Go home or go out with your significant other I couldn't careless one way or another. But when you start pulling your flamboyant bullshit to purposely antagonize others then you should expect some repercussions.
I know plenty of gay professionals who are successful that don't feel the need the act like idiots in public to get a point across. Wake the fuck up!!
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It's funny seeing the NFL commentators come out of the closet. Teddy Bruschi for one. Knew he was homo but when he went on and on at what a big moment this was for the NFL it was obvious how proud he was of Sam doing what he couldn't
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Obama called this twink on the phone. Funny - his asshole wife is wasting our tine w hashtags and he is calling twinks. No wonder things are sp fd up
Obama could be ruining the nation's economy or strating a trade war.
instead, he's spending his time doing things like this.
Would you PREFER he call up China and start a war? Or call us Russia and bow to the phone?
I thought you'd be happy that he's spending his time doing things like this.
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Obama called this twink on the phone. Funny - his asshole wife is wasting our tine w hashtags and he is calling twinks. No wonder things are sp fd up
gays vote.
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My guess is he won't make the roster. St. Louis will be able to say they were the first to draft an openly gay man. He'll probably end up playing in CAnada somewhere...
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After Posting Negative Tweets about Michael Sam, NFL Player Fined, Excused from Team
Miami Dolphins safety Don Jones was fined an undisclosed amount Sunday and will undergo educational training after sending a negative tweet about Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to be selected in the NFL draft.
Shortly after the St. Louis Rams took Sam in the seventh round Saturday, Jones tweeted “OMG” and “Horrible.” The tweets were taken down a short time later.
Jones apologized for his comments Sunday and described them as inappropriate. The Dolphins said Jones has been excused from all team activities until he completes training related to his comments.
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Why do these idiots post shit on Twitter? They are millionairs, why act like a 12 year old teen posting your "thoughts" online constantly? Fucking idiot.
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Why do these idiots post shit on Twitter? They are millionairs, why act like a 12 year old teen posting your "thoughts" online constantly? Fucking idiot.
Don Jones earns vet minimum of $630k, only dreams of being a millinaire, so he's free to tweet.
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His career is all but over. No one in the mainstream is making this about his career in football. It's total bullshit. The only ones making this about football is the NFL and his coaches and hopefully most of his teammates.
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Is Kai the 1st in the ifbb to openly fuck a grapefruit. Ill be the first npc competitor to openly have used a fleshlight. I think these two ground breaking moments in where we put our shafts should be also covered by espn..
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He won't earn a spot on the roster once the preseason is over. He's simply not that good. He's a defensive end trying to convert to an outside linebacker on the pro level. He's not that fast, he's strength is not pro level. His hips aren't fluid when changing direction and covering RB's out of the backfield. He was exposed of this at the senior bowl.
This novelty of him being the first openly gay player will wear off fast. He slid to the 7th round not only because no team wants to deal with this public relations nightmare, but also because most teams don't think he's good enough to play at the pro level.
His only chance of making a 45 man roster is to play his ass off on special teams. Learn to block like a maniac or avoid blocks while streaking downfield.
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"VIDEO: 'I SHOULD HAVE GONE' IN THE FIRST THREE ROUNDS"
"Let me tell you something, if we were playing the Vikings right now, I'd probably have three sacks the first game"
"Can Michael Sam play football? Yes, I can, and the St. Louis Rams know I can."
Dude was terrible at the combine and too small for his position in the NFL. He kicked ass in college, but so did a lot of players. You need to be taller and stronger and faster to be in the NFL.
I think it kinda sours the awesome moment of entering the NFL, by complaining "I should have been drafted higher". I'm sure every player feels that way. A lot of people had him barely getting drafted, based upon his combine performance. His body isn't what scouts want - they want taller, faster and WAY stronger.
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He won't earn a spot on the roster once the preseason is over. He's simply not that good. He's a defensive end trying to convert to an outside linebacker on the pro level. He's not that fast, he's strength is not pro level. His hips aren't fluid when changing direction and covering RB's out of the backfield. He was exposed of this at the senior bowl.
This novelty of him being the first openly gay player will wear off fast. He slid to the 7th round not only because no team wants to deal with this public relations nightmare, but also because most teams don't think he's good enough to play at the pro level.
His only chance of making a 45 man roster is to play his ass off on special teams. Learn to block like a maniac or avoid blocks while streaking downfield.
I agree with this 100%. You could see at the combine his athleticism wasn't that of the others. Hip were tight, very mechanical and flat footed in his 40, etc. But he was good enough to get the invite. He has potential and a good NFL coach will bring that out. It's about learning to play the game all over again at an elite level.
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I agree with this 100%. You could see at the combine his athleticism wasn't that of the others. Hip were tight, very mechanical and flat footed in his 40, etc. But he was good enough to get the invite. He has potential and a good NFL coach will bring that out. It's about learning to play the game all over again at an elite level.
Mike & Mike pondered this... The Rams might have a hard time cutting him - even though it's pretty common to cut a 7th round draft without an NFL body. They think backlash might be too rough. Even if his play is average, or the ego he's displaying, might disrupt the locker room.
dude is smart... he knows his talent isn't quite NFL... and he's managed to get Visa and a few other endorsements already, even without a spot on the roster yet. All it takes is ONE alleged incident, one comment, one anything, and he can pull a "johnathan martin" and leave the team and open up a lawsuit.
Mike and Mike thought it's gonna have potential for problems - he is using his own name in 3rd person, claiming he was underdrafted, claiming he'd have 3 sacks next week. People would be throwing tomatoes if Johnny Manziel was bitching about being drafted too low, and if he claimed he would score 4 TDs on Steelers next week lol.
This story will be a non-story if he can play. But if he isn't good enough to make the team, he already seems to have that chip on his shoulder. If he gets cut... and mike and mike agreed... it could get messy fast.
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I'm sure Matthew Shepard and Brandon Teena, and all the other nameless gay men and lesbians that have been brutally murdered, were not "in fear" as they were, or about to be, beaten to death. Prior to the birth of the gay rights movement in 1969, it was common in every city in the U.S. for the police to simply go into gay bars and arrest everyone. Just for them being there.
Baloney. Tell that to all the religious political organizations, and especially the Republican Party. The Republican Party, at all levels, local, state, and federal, have fought against every single piece of gay equality legislation for more than 35 years. Just today, a Republican state senator in Arkansas wants to impeach the judge who ruled their state's marriage ban unconstitutional. And the Republicans sure want to tell women what to do with their bodies, when it comes to pregnancy. And I am also sure the Republicans would lead the way on de-criminalizing anabolic steroids. So much for individual freedom.
Until LBGT Americans have full equality, the media and "shoving it down the throats" will continue. Once gay marriage is legal in all 50 states, the issue of gay marriage will never be discussed again. When the next openly gay college football player is drafted, him being gay will barely be mentioned. Until those days come, we will be having this public discussion.
I wonder if the timing was intentional.
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Is Kai the 1st in the ifbb to openly fuck a grapefruit. Ill be the first npc competitor to openly have used a fleshlight. I think these two ground breaking moments in where we put our shafts should be also covered by espn..
Lol the moments sport was advanced 100 years overnight.
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I know the media is eating it up. I've had to change the homepage on my internet browser. Every time MSN opens it highlights the "kiss heard round the world."
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I know the media is eating it up. I've had to change the homepage on my internet browser. Every time MSN opens it highlights the "kiss heard round the world."
MSN? Is it still 1998?
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If you're straight, great. If you're gay great. I don't care. Live your life, pursuing happiness and being a good person, keep others out of your bedroom and stay out of theirs.
P.S.: Joe, I think that I just collapsed your entire world-view, such as it is, by agreeing with you. The implications of this are monumental.
+1 spot on.
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Whatever it was that they did prior to the 1960's.
Lmfao... ;D
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Mike & Mike pondered this... The Rams might have a hard time cutting him - even though it's pretty common to cut a 7th round draft without an NFL body. They think backlash might be too rough. Even if his play is average, or the ego he's displaying, might disrupt the locker room.
dude is smart... he knows his talent isn't quite NFL... and he's managed to get Visa and a few other endorsements already, even without a spot on the roster yet. All it takes is ONE alleged incident, one comment, one anything, and he can pull a "johnathan martin" and leave the team and open up a lawsuit.
Mike and Mike thought it's gonna have potential for problems - he is using his own name in 3rd person, claiming he was underdrafted, claiming he'd have 3 sacks next week. People would be throwing tomatoes if Johnny Manziel was bitching about being drafted too low, and if he claimed he would score 4 TDs on Steelers next week lol.
This story will be a non-story if he can play. But if he isn't good enough to make the team, he already seems to have that chip on his shoulder. If he gets cut... and mike and mike agreed... it could get messy fast.
It's all about the dollars in the NFL, the rest is just conversation. If he isn't good enough, he's gone...simple as that. His play in training camp and during preseason games will tell the story.
It won't get messy if he's cut because of subpar play. The film doesn't lie.
The fact that he's quoted as saying that he should've been drafted in the first 3 rounds is a bad sign. That indicates that he'll be in denial over being released over poor play and file a lawsuit against the Rams like the twink that he is.
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I dont care if the dude is gay, but i sure as hell didnt want to see him kiss his little twink manlet on tv and sure as fuck didnt need to see them snowballing cake bukkakiing each other
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I agree with that video. But here we are again making it about an agenda instead of football. BTW, of you're kids were raised right you shouldn't have to discuss anything.
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Sam says he would have been drafted higher if not gay. I think he would have been overlooked and not drafted if not being in the spotlight for being gay.
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Sam says he would have been drafted higher if not gay. I think he would have been overlooked and not drafted if not being in the spotlight for being gay.
He fell in about right where he should be. I contend that if he wasn't an SEC All-American and co-defensive player of the year he wouldn't be there at all. But he was a good college player. He's a D-end for God's sake.
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Sam says he would have been drafted higher if not gay. I think he would have been overlooked and not drafted if not being in the spotlight for being gay.
If he really thought that he would have kept his mouth shut and tried to cash bigger checks.
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Sam says he would have been drafted higher if not gay. I think he would have been overlooked and not drafted if not being in the spotlight for being gay.
That right there tells me that he'll sue the Rams if he's released before the season starts. He won't accept that he couldn't make the roster based on merit but rather he was released because he was gay. Total bullshit. He's already planting his seeds.
I can only imagine the stink he would have caused if he didn't get drafted at all.
Ugh...the everyday media coverage on this guy through training camp and preseason is going to make me nauseous
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He'll prob sue over locker room banter. You know the rams will have a meeting with the team before he gets there and tell them to act normal.. I'd be walking around stark naked and bragging about my conquest then sue him for sexual harassment
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Ugh...the everyday media coverage on this guy through training camp and preseason is going to make me nauseous
It will even be worse here in Stl where I live.
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MSN? Is it still 1998?
It is at my workplace.
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Michael Sam will make more money playing the discrimination card than he will ever playing football, especially in a country so ripe with its gay agenda, Rams commercial lawyers need to be shot, that kiss and cake eating was meant to provoke, if his agenda was football he wouldn't have done it, how many other rookies have ate cake of their spouses face getting drafted this pre season. No gay hate, it was just distasteful, I don't want to watch anyone do it gay or hetero especially on espn. Every company assesses their commercial risk prior to acquisition of anything property or staff, the alarm bells must be ringing in the HR law department of the rams now, theres a man with an agenda and it isn't about playing football and lets face it hes a below average bet of ever really making it based on his talent of playing football.
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worse then the Death of Teo's girlfriend to push the Heisman trophy
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Michael Sam will make more money playing the discrimination card than he will ever playing football, especially in a country so ripe with its gay agenda, Rams commercial lawyers need to be shot, that kiss and cake eating was meant to provoke, if his agenda was football he wouldn't have done it, how many other rookies have ate cake of their spouses face getting drafted this pre season. No gay hate, it was just distasteful, I don't want to watch anyone do it gay or hetero especially on espn. Every company assesses their commercial risk prior to acquisition of anything property or staff, the alarm bells must be ringing in the HR law department of the rams now, theres a man with an agenda and it isn't about playing football and lets face it hes a below average bet of ever really making it based on his talent of playing football not eating cake.
This.
I hate his guts already. There are gay men, and flaming fucking phaggots. This asshole is going out of his way t act like a flaming drama queen, because he knows this is his only way to make some bank. Fuck him
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Michael Sam will make more money playing the discrimination card than he will ever playing football, especially in a country so ripe with its gay agenda, Rams commercial lawyers need to be shot, that kiss and cake eating was meant to provoke, if his agenda was football he wouldn't have done it, how many other rookies have ate cake of their spouses face getting drafted this pre season. No gay hate, it was just distasteful, I don't want to watch anyone do it gay or hetero especially on espn. Every company assesses their commercial risk prior to acquisition of anything property or staff, the alarm bells must be ringing in the HR law department of the rams now, theres a man with an agenda and it isn't about playing football and lets face it hes a below average bet of ever really making it based on his talent of playing football.
Bam. thread over
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Bam. thread over
If I were the Rams head coach I'd put a bounty on this homos ACL.
Injured in practice...tough break kid....ha ha
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Michael Sam will make more money playing the discrimination card than he will ever playing football, especially in a country so ripe with its gay agenda, Rams commercial lawyers need to be shot, that kiss and cake eating was meant to provoke, if his agenda was football he wouldn't have done it, how many other rookies have ate cake of their spouses face getting drafted this pre season. No gay hate, it was just distasteful, I don't want to watch anyone do it gay or hetero especially on espn. Every company assesses their commercial risk prior to acquisition of anything property or staff, the alarm bells must be ringing in the HR law department of the rams now, theres a man with an agenda and it isn't about playing football and lets face it hes a below average bet of ever really making it based on his talent of playing football.
Perhaps....but so did Tim Tebow. ;D
BTW, I liked how they did the cake kiss....sort of like "In your fucking face!! Do something bout it bia bia bitch!!!
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This.
I hate his guts already. There are gay men, and flaming fucking phaggots. This asshole is going out of his way t act like a flaming drama queen, because he knows this is his only way to make some bank. Fuck him
Michael Strahan kept his love for cock under wraps until he retired and had a productive NFL career.
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Michael Sam will make more money playing the discrimination card than he will ever playing football, especially in a country so ripe with its gay agenda, Rams commercial lawyers need to be shot, that kiss and cake eating was meant to provoke, if his agenda was football he wouldn't have done it, how many other rookies have ate cake of their spouses face getting drafted this pre season. No gay hate, it was just distasteful, I don't want to watch anyone do it gay or hetero especially on espn. Every company assesses their commercial risk prior to acquisition of anything property or staff, the alarm bells must be ringing in the HR law department of the rams now, theres a man with an agenda and it isn't about playing football and lets face it hes a below average bet of ever really making it based on his talent of playing football.
I agree - he's making this about his sexual orientation instead of his ability to play. If he wanted to warn respect across the board, then when asked about the gay thing in connection sports his answer should have been "Yes, I openly live my life as a gay man. But this isn't about my sexuality. I'm just a guy. I'm just an athlete. And this is about football. If you have any questions about football or my thoughts on football, I'd be happy to answer them."
And he should conducted himself accordingly when drafted - as I expect from all people. I don't want to see you eating cake off your boyfriend anymore than I want to see some other player eating cake off of his girlfriend.
Why is this so fucking difficult? Behave appropriately.
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I agree - he's making this about his sexual orientation instead of his ability to play. If he wanted to warn respect across the board, then when asked about the gay thing in connection sports his answer should have been "Yes, I openly live my life as a gay man. But this isn't about my sexuality. I'm just a guy. I'm just an athlete. And this is about football. If you have any questions about football or my thoughts on football, I'd be happy to answer them."
And he should conducted himself accordingly when drafted - as I expect from all people. I don't want to see you eating cake off your boyfriend anymore than I want to see some other player eating cake off of his girlfriend.
Why is this so fucking difficult? Behave appropriately.
Not entirely true.....I would pay good money to watch cake being eaten off A.J. McCarron's girlfriend.
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I agree - he's making this about his sexual orientation instead of his ability to play. If he wanted to warn respect across the board, then when asked about the gay thing in connection sports his answer should have been "Yes, I openly live my life as a gay man. But this isn't about my sexuality. I'm just a guy. I'm just an athlete. And this is about football. If you have any questions about football or my thoughts on football, I'd be happy to answer them."
And he should conducted himself accordingly when drafted - as I expect from all people. I don't want to see you eating cake off your boyfriend anymore than I want to see some other player eating cake off of his girlfriend.
Why is this so fucking difficult? Behave appropriately.
For the record, did you actually type the word "guy"?
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i bet that if Sam gets dropped by the Rams and decides to sue, he will cite the "horrible" and "omg" tweets from that Miami Dolphin player as the first time he felt a hostile workplace.
After the way Jonathan Martin put himself in a position to get a $ settlement from the NFL... and he was a borderline-cut 2nd year player... by saying he was bullied (even though he was ALSO making death threats to other teammates)...
After that, I think the blueprint is there for future players to get drafted, lay groundwork, and then hire a lawyer and go after the league. The NFL brings in 10+ bil in revvenue each year. They CAN afford to just pay a guy $10 million to go away and not make a stink about bullying or other issues. And players know this now. Watch for more of this - players on the bubble of making a team, using the media to establish patterns of workplace hostility. I bet Sam's twitter or facebook is going to be packed with exxamples of how he's being singled out in his workplace.
I could care less about the kiss - there were plenty of man/woman kissing. Not my cup of tea, but hey, that's the world we live in. Howevr, it seems like he's smart enough to establish that pattern, and he's definitely one to whine about drafting spot, and rant about how good he COULD be doing. Most dudes don't talk like that in the NFL.
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For the record, did you actually type the word "guy"?
For the record yes, yes I did. ;D
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worse then the Death of Teo's girlfriend to push the Heisman trophy
haha how is Teo's girlfriend? is he/she/them OK?
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i bet that if Sam gets dropped by the Rams and decides to sue, he will cite the "horrible" and "omg" tweets from that Miami Dolphin player as the first time he felt a hostile workplace.
After the way Jonathan Martin put himself in a position to get a $ settlement from the NFL... and he was a borderline-cut 2nd year player... by saying he was bullied (even though he was ALSO making death threats to other teammates)...
After that, I think the blueprint is there for future players to get drafted, lay groundwork, and then hire a lawyer and go after the league. The NFL brings in 10+ bil in revvenue each year. They CAN afford to just pay a guy $10 million to go away and not make a stink about bullying or other issues. And players know this now. Watch for more of this - players on the bubble of making a team, using the media to establish patterns of workplace hostility. I bet Sam's twitter or facebook is going to be packed with exxamples of how he's being singled out in his workplace.
I could care less about the kiss - there were plenty of man/woman kissing. Not my cup of tea, but hey, that's the world we live in. Howevr, it seems like he's smart enough to establish that pattern, and he's definitely one to whine about drafting spot, and rant about how good he COULD be doing. Most dudes don't talk like that in the NFL.
I agree with you. People give you shit but you make many keen observations.
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If I were the Rams head coach I'd put a bounty on this homos ACL.
Injured in practice...tough break kid....ha ha
Prob not a good idea. Michael Sams boyfriend is Vito Cammisano.......he's from a mob family. His grandfather was William "Willie Rat" Dominick Cammisano Sr and his father was a bookie and mob member too...did time back in 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cammisano
These are people you really don't want to mess with...
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Prob not a good idea. Michael Sams boyfriend is Vito Cammisano.......he's from a mob family. His grandfather was William "Willie Rat" Dominick Cammisano Sr and his father was a bookie and mob member too...did time back in 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cammisano
These are people you really don't want to mess with...
How does the mob regard their more "progressive" descendants?
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How does the mob regard their more "progressive" descendants?
They're probably really proud their twinky grandson is getting pounded by a colored. ::)
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They're probably really proud their twinky grandson is getting pounded by a colored. ::)
Surprised them two aren't presently swimmin' with fishes.
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Surprised them two aren't presently swimmin' with fishes.
Well...according to the bio...Willie's nickname was "The Rat" because when he killed someone, he dumped the bodies into the sewer so the rats will eat them and erase evidence..... :P
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How does the mob regard their more "progressive" descendants?
Well...I don't know about this Vito....do know about this VITO.. ;D
And then this happenned.....
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Tebow is'nt in the league because of what defenses did to tebow lol.
he rode an awesome defense and kicking game + unique style nobody had film on + tons of excitement to a nice little streak.
since then, he's sucked. Defenses eat him up. in that final preseason game, he had to pull out a magic win to barely escape the 4th string scrubs that would have been out of the league in a week.
Tebow isn't in the league because no one wanted to take the time to develop him with the media circus that follows him.
Tebow didn't ride an "awesome defense" (Denver's D was next to last in the league when he took over). If anything, he made the defense better by not turning the ball over as much as Orton did. Plus, the heavy-run offense kept the D off the field.
People had plenty of film on Tebow. It only take weeks to get it. Defenses made the mistake of not consistently staying on him and keeping guys back (except for Belichek). They'd lay off for a series or two, let Tebow hit one or two big plays, and it negated their dominance most of the game (see that Broncos-Bears game from 2011).
Tebow was feast or famine. In that playoff game against Pittsburgh, he was struggling most of that first quarter. Then he hit that one bomb to Thomas, and it was as if a switch clicked in his head. Suddenly, he's carving the Steelers D to pieces.
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Local Stl news just showed Thhaaam at the airport in Vegas. He will be in town soon for his press conference. Can't wait for this tool to be cut and the circus over.
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Local Stl news just showed Thhaaam at the airport in Vegas. He will be in town soon for his press conference. Can't wait for this tool to be cut and the circus over.
Then GLAAD will want to know why you cut him and kept this other guy. So glad my team didn't take him. You know they instantly regretted it after the kiss.
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Tebow isn't in the league because no one wanted to take the time to develop him with the media circus that follows him.
LMAO
Time to "develop" him? Dude was in his mid-20s and still missed open dudes at 15 yards lol.
Tebow cannot consistently throw. All this victim stuff would make sense if he was a consistent player. But coaches knew it was luck when he hit a dead-on pass at 40 yards. NFL QBs need to make a dead-on pass at 40 yards 9 out of 10 times. With 1-2 defenders all over the receiver.
Tebow thrived on broken plays. Once they forced him right and guarded every man, he was rendered ineffective. Once Belichick showed how to beat him, EVERYONE started beating him.
He was jeremy lin. He was a phenom with a new style and the league had to adapt. And once they did, he was a consistent loser.
He can't pass. It's that simple.
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they can't cut him - they can move him to practice squad, but you'll still have him tweting "I'm betting than the starter, why do they have me on the bench?"
Dude is whining a ton already. Not good. This has nothing to do with his sexuality. He sucked at the combine and he is too small and weak for the pros.... just doesn't move fast enough on the field, period.
Entitled... he acts entitled. He wasn't grateful for being chosen in the NFL draft when many said he wasn't skillwise good enough - he was ANGRY he wasn't picked sooner. That's weak. That's the wrong attitude to have.
THEN he goes further with "Oh, I'd have 3 sacks this WEEK if I was playing..." Who says that? unreal.
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they can't cut him - they can move him to practice squad, but you'll still have him tweting "I'm betting than the starter, why do they have me on the bench?"
Dude is whining a ton already. Not good. This has nothing to do with his sexuality. He sucked at the combine and he is too small and weak for the pros.... just doesn't move fast enough on the field, period.
Entitled... he acts entitled. He wasn't grateful for being chosen in the NFL draft when many said he wasn't skillwise good enough - he was ANGRY he wasn't picked sooner. That's weak. That's the wrong attitude to have.
THEN he goes further with "Oh, I'd have 3 sacks this WEEK if I was playing..." Who says that? unreal.
That's all it has to do with now. He chose for it to be that way.
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That's all it has to do with now. He chose for it to be that way.
If he sucks at his position on the field, he's going to get cut or moved to practice team.
since he's already sucked at draft - and whined about his draft placing...
since he's never stepped on a pro field - and is already bragging about how he'll get 3 sacks a week...
He's already complaining to media. They're gonna be in a shitty spot if they need to cut him.
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they can't cut him - they can move him to practice squad, but you'll still have him tweting "I'm betting than the starter, why do they have me on the bench?"
Dude is whining a ton already. Not good. This has nothing to do with his sexuality. He sucked at the combine and he is too small and weak for the pros.... just doesn't move fast enough on the field, period.
Entitled... he acts entitled. He wasn't grateful for being chosen in the NFL draft when many said he wasn't skillwise good enough - he was ANGRY he wasn't picked sooner. That's weak. That's the wrong attitude to have.
THEN he goes further with "Oh, I'd have 3 sacks this WEEK if I was playing..." Who says that? unreal.
Hes hoping to intimidate teams with the fear that if the team drops him its because of homophobia and not his playing ability. He will bounce around a few team until the story fades and then be dropped.
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It's pretty clear now that this was never about football. For him, I mean.
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Dude is whining a ton already. Not good. This has nothing to do with his sexuality. He sucked at the combine and he is too small and weak for the pros.... just doesn't move fast enough on the field, period.
Some other NFL Neanderthal will end his career with a chop block. As has happened since the first day football began.
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I wonder if the timing was intentional.
I believe it was...
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If I were the Rams head coach I'd put a bounty on this homos ACL.
Injured in practice...tough break kid....ha ha
lmao...You know if he makes the team, there will be many people on other teams going out of their way to take him out...Most people could deal with the kiss he did on TV. But when he smeared the cake on the face of the other fruitcake, he just jumped the shark. Total POS phony move and some say he was mocking marriage with the wedding cake face paint...
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lmao...You know if he makes the team, there will be many people on other teams going out of their way to take him out...Most people could deal with the kiss he did on TV. But when he smeared the cake on the face of the other fruitcake, he just jumped the shark. Total POS phony move and some say he was mocking marriage with the wedding cake face paint...
Even without the cake, dude had a bullseye on him from day one. For lots of these guys, I'm sure, they're just gonna act out what they can't tweet.
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it's a shrewd business move actually. Jonathan martin is going to get $$ paid by the NFL for his pain & suffering, and we'll probably never hear about the settlement amount.
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I think there are a ton of gay players already in the NFL and there have been since the start of course. I am willing to bet at least 75 percent to 90 percent of football fans are gay or have had some sort of gay experience. Its about time they own up to it.
amen
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LMAO
Time to "develop" him? Dude was in his mid-20s and still missed open dudes at 15 yards lol.
What does his age have to do with anything? He barely played a full season as a starter.
Tebow cannot consistently throw. All this victim stuff would make sense if he was a consistent player. But coaches knew it was luck when he hit a dead-on pass at 40 yards. NFL QBs need to make a dead-on pass at 40 yards 9 out of 10 times. With 1-2 defenders all over the receiver.
Tebow thrived on broken plays. Once they forced him right and guarded every man, he was rendered ineffective. Once Belichick showed how to beat him, EVERYONE started beating him.
No one is making him a victim. I said he needed more development; but, no one wanted to do that, because they couldn't without the media circus.
How did "everyone" start beating him when he never got to start again, after leaving Denver? How many full games did he play and LOSE, post-Denver?
He was jeremy lin. He was a phenom with a new style and the league had to adapt. And once they did, he was a consistent loser.
He can't pass. It's that simple.
To be a "consistent loser", you actually have to play consistently, which he didn't.
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Not homophobic but why do these nut suckers insist on putting this shit in everyone's face?
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History? How? Because of the media and people like yourself. You just made Sam a distraction. Now the topic of a Ram game is going to him being openly gay instead of him being a potential play maker. And if he doesn't make the squad because of lack ability, the gay rights activists are going to make it a homophobe issue. Right Vince?
This.
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Not homophobic but why do these nut suckers insist on putting this shit in everyone's face?
Don't watch.
When the Winter Olympics switches to Johhny Weir and tries to force that flaming phaggot on the audience....I change the fucking channel. No fucking way, same as Anderson Cooper and all the rest of them.
(Except Ellen)
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What does his age have to do with anything? He barely played a full season as a starter.
No one is making him a victim. I said he needed more development; but, no one wanted to do that, because they couldn't without the media circus.
How did "everyone" start beating him when he never got to start again, after leaving Denver? How many full games did he play and LOSE, post-Denver?
To be a "consistent loser", you actually have to play consistently, which he didn't.
If you're 25 and you can't hit a moving target at 30 yards 50% of the time... No, you're not a good investment.
And beyond his inaccurate arm... dude... the biggest problem with Tebow was his mentals in the pocket. IN college, he looked at 1-2 receivers and took off running, knocking dudes over. That worked in the pros for a few games, then they caught on.
Now they BEG him to run it so they can crush him. He's slowed down a step. He put on muscle to be durable, and voila, he no longer has a step on them - he gets caught fast every time. He has like 2 moves... and linebackers know them both lol.
He lost his "chance" to "prove himself" because coaches saw in practice exactly what he'd do in games. stare down one receiver then run in circles. that's shit. that's crap. that doesn't work.
All this "oh, he's a victim!" He made poor decisions in the pocket, he missed receivers on passes, or even seeing them, and he slowed down. He sucked. I loved him in DEN, i was kneepadding him all over getbig. But the next year, he sucked, and he had a shit attitude too. NYJ was happy to just keep him 3rd string forever, ,give him a nice check to sell jerseys and smile. Instead he had a meltdown and demanded a trade. SHit brah, just enjoy the ride. YOu know Sanchez will get hurt eventually, and eventually you'll learn to pass and what to do in the pocket.
Tebow couldn't admit he made poor choices at the line - he's just not a smart dude, and most NFL QBS are either insanely gifted, or very smart.
Tebow couldn't admit he was a poor thrower either.
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Back to Michael Sam,
I read today his starting salary is $420,000 per year. That's more than I, and I would guess most pro-bodybuilders, earn in a year.
His jersey is the second best seller of all the new draft picks:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349661/article/fans-flock-to-order-michael-sam-jerseys (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349661/article/fans-flock-to-order-michael-sam-jerseys)
That's all added $$$ for the NFL.
His press conference of today:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000350112/article/st-louis-rams-michael-sam-determined-to-be-great (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000350112/article/st-louis-rams-michael-sam-determined-to-be-great)
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Dude already got Mudsharks chasing him
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Dude already got Mudsharks chasing him
Most of them are named Steve or Dave, of course.
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I don't know whether he should celebrate or not....Geez, the Rams are not exactly playing great football lately. History has been made though.
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Back to Michael Sam,
I read today his starting salary is $420,000 per year. That's more than I, and I would guess most pro-bodybuilders, earn in a year.
His jersey is the second best seller of all the new draft picks:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349661/article/fans-flock-to-order-michael-sam-jerseys (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349661/article/fans-flock-to-order-michael-sam-jerseys)
That's all added $$$ for the NFL.
His press conference of today:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000350112/article/st-louis-rams-michael-sam-determined-to-be-great (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000350112/article/st-louis-rams-michael-sam-determined-to-be-great)
I think his jersey being the 2nd best seller is the NFL fudging numbers to help push the cause...Unless people are buying the Jersey and putting it away thinking it will be worth money decades from now.
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Tebow should just come out of the closet and rain on this guys parade...Even though he isn't playing anymore, it would take all this guys thunder away...
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LMAO
Time to "develop" him? Dude was in his mid-20s and still missed open dudes at 15 yards lol.
Tebow cannot consistently throw. All this victim stuff would make sense if he was a consistent player. But coaches knew it was luck when he hit a dead-on pass at 40 yards. NFL QBs need to make a dead-on pass at 40 yards 9 out of 10 times. With 1-2 defenders all over the receiver.
Tebow thrived on broken plays. Once they forced him right and guarded every man, he was rendered ineffective. Once Belichick showed how to beat him, EVERYONE started beating him.
He was jeremy lin. He was a phenom with a new style and the league had to adapt. And once they did, he was a consistent loser.
He can't pass. It's that simple.
Bullshit, he's out of the league because of the attention that was being brought because of his faith. You really think he had the worst numbers in the league?? He was arguably the best college QB in recent times, brought Denver to the playoffs by winning something eight straight games. That bullshit that "he can't pass" is lame. He's no Brady but he sure as hell wasn't the worst.
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Bullshit, he's out of the league because of the attention that was being brought because of his faith. You really think he had the worst numbers in the league?? He was arguably the best college QB in recent times, brought Denver to the playoffs by winning something eight straight games. That bullshit that "he can't pass" is lame. He's no Brady but he sure as hell wasn't the worst.
Coach, I can't remember his exact stat, but if you look it up you'll see his passer rating was near the bottom. Worse than Mark Sanchez.
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Bullshit, he's out of the league because of the attention that was being brought because of his faith. You really think he had the worst numbers in the league?? He was arguably the best college QB in recent times, brought Denver to the playoffs by winning something eight straight games. That bullshit that "he can't pass" is lame. He's no Brady but he sure as hell wasn't the worst.
Pity God wouldn't help him by smiting those heathens that pushed his faithful servant out of the league. But what can you do? The Lord works in mysterious ways. Praise be... etc.
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Just been reported that Oprah's network is working on a reality tV show to follow Michael Sam around. You just knew this was going to fukcing happen...If the Rams let the camera's roll on their property, sham on them...
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/michael-sam-oprah-documentary-series-rams
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I don't know whether he should celebrate or not....Geez, the Rams are not exactly playing great football lately. History has been made though.
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Always ahead of the times in both your personal life and in the business world. You were doing it before it was labeled as "brave" and "heroic" by the media.