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Who won't stay and be their human shields.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416)
And then everyone wonders why there are so many civilian casualties in Palestine...
If Hamas cared even one bit about their people they would evacuate buildings instead of stuffing them full of civilians to then cry to the international community that Israel is targeting civilians.
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If it's on facebook it must be true ::). I love how the Jews give labels to justify their cause. They kill someone with a gun and call them a terrorist, they kill someone without a gun and call them a human shield. They can go fuck themselves.
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But it's still the Jews who shot them.
You would jump the queue to catch the bullets, i know.
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Who won't stay and be their human shields.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416)
And then everyone wonders why there are so many civilian casualties in Palestine...
If Hamas cared even one bit about their people they would evacuate buildings instead of stuffing them full of civilians to then cry to the international community that Israel is targeting civilians.
Israel does target civilians. ::)
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Who won't stay and be their human shields.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416)
And then everyone wonders why there are so many civilian casualties in Palestine...
If Hamas cared even one bit about their people they would evacuate buildings instead of stuffing them full of civilians to then cry to the international community that Israel is targeting civilians.
It's baffling how any reasonable person can support these terrorists. I guess there are a lot of gullible and naive people in the world who fail to know when a people bring troubles onto themselves.
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Two different political agendas producing the same effect: killing Palestinian civilians. Hamas is on a fund raising campaign; with what happened in Syria and what is going on in Iraq, they're losing a good part of the funds the Hezbollah (and through them Iran) was sending them. So they're catering to the Sunnis with money: Qatar, Saoudi Arabia, Emirates, etc.....the ones funding the Islamic State and the rebels in Syria. Martyrdom is a marketing device. The Likoud is just doing it's best to keep the Israeli society unified against an common enemy as the country is now completely divided in fact.
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In the end these wars benefit one group. The American Jews. They'll make billions and billions from running their US military contract companies. Sheldon Aldelson has spent over $100 million trying to get his republicans in certain senate and congress seats to start a war with Iran.
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In the end these wars benefit one group. The American Jews. They'll make billions and billions from running their US military contract companies. Sheldon Aldelson has spent over $100 million trying to get his republicans in certain senate and congress seats to start a war with Iran.
In that case I demand my cut of the profits (well... half a cut, the other half is out fighting the Russkis) ;D
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Who won't stay and be their human shields.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1480489098861416)
And then everyone wonders why there are so many civilian casualties in Palestine...
If Hamas cared even one bit about their people they would evacuate buildings instead of stuffing them full of civilians to then cry to the international community that Israel is targeting civilians.
That's a very old video not related to this recent incident, it is an unrelated internal disturbance.
HTH ::)
Dropping bombs and shells on residential homes wiping out blocks at a time and then blame them for the baby deaths....priceless.
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Both sides are assholes. The more they off each other the better for the rest of the world
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I have walked the streets of both West Bank Palestine and Israel. With one you have a population that wants to kill the other on sight and drive them to the sea. With the other both Jews and Arabs Moslems walk together and respect each others place of worship. At work they earn the same rate of pay.
Can you name them?
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the problem is everyone keeps BSing around the real underlying issue. Hamas has every right to keep firing rockets into israel while israel continues it's illegal occupation.
the actions of hamas are in reality self defense , you think if canada decided to take a chunk of the US i think they would get a little more back than a bunch of ineffective rockets.
un security council
"Affirming once more that the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12 August 1949 1/ is applicable to the Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem,
1. Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;
2. Strongly deplores the failure of Israel to abide by Security Council resolutions 237 (1967) of 14 June 1967, 252 (1968) of 21 May 1968 and 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971 and the consensus statement by the President of the Security Council on 11 November 1976 2/ and General Assembly resolutions 2253 (ES-V) and 2254 (ES-V) of 4 and 14 July 1967, 32/5 of 28 October 1977 and 33/113 of 18 December 1978;
3. Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, to rescind its previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographical nature and materially affecting the demographic composition of the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and, in particular, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territories;"
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I have walked the streets of both West Bank Palestine and Israel. With one you have a population that wants to kill the other on sight and drive them to the sea. With the other both Jews and Arabs Moslems walk together and respect each others place of worship. At work they earn the same rate of pay.
Can you name them?
Did you live in Israel? I've never been to Gaza or West Bank, for obvious reasons haha. But I lived in Ganei Aviv (a suburb of Lod) and there was an arab area right outside the town where it was some scary shit. My dad had to drive to work through there and every day his car would get rocks thrown at it by the local arab kids. I was robbed by 5 kids from that area one night (I was 10 or 11 at the time). My school did a field trip to a mosque (I don't know why they thought it was a good idea), it was us (a class of about 20 kids), our pregnant teacher, and a bus driver. After our tour we were walking back to our bus when a bunch of arab teenagers started throwing rocks and metal shards at us (including our pregnant teacher). I don't remember where the bus driver was but I remember we were waiting for him and fighting off these assholes.
Another thing that will always stick out in my mind is at 5:30am every morning the mosque in Lod would play arab prayers and wake everyone up, it was extremely annoying at first, but I got used to it after a couple months.
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Did you live in Israel? I've never been to Gaza or West Bank, for obvious reasons haha. But I lived in Ganei Aviv (a suburb of Lod) and there was an arab area right outside the town where it was some scary shit. My dad had to drive to work through there and every day his car would get rocks thrown at it by the local arab kids. I was robbed by 5 kids from that area one night (I was 10 or 11 at the time). My school did a field trip to a mosque (I don't know why they thought it was a good idea), it was us (a class of about 20 kids), our pregnant teacher, and a bus driver. After our tour we were walking back to our bus when a bunch of arab teenagers started throwing rocks and metal shards at us (including our pregnant teacher). I don't remember where the bus driver was but I remember we were waiting for him and fighting off these assholes.
Another thing that will always stick out in my mind is at 5:30am every morning the mosque in Lod would play arab prayers and wake everyone up, it was extremely annoying at first, but I got used to it after a couple months.
I am friends with educated, "english" Palestinian Christians whose grandparents were kicked out / incarcerated / in one case forced to stay without his family for 5 years because he was a Judge and he was forced to help parcel out what had been the land of his people into the hands of European Jews.
The family I know still have the key for their house that they were forced to flee and pass to Jewish invaders.
How anyone cannot see that this will stir up hatred is beyond me and beyond the entire world who have not been force fed Israeli propaganda. The people I know are good people, they work hard and contribute to society, they are not religious, and they HATE Israel.
Who can blame them?
And for a bit of irony and colour, would you believe that their uncle / aunt (also a Pali Christian) is married to GW Bush's first cousin.
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I am friends with educated, "english" Palestinian Christians whose grandparents were kicked out / incarcerated / in one case forced to stay without his family for 5 years because he was a Judge and he was forced to help parcel out what had been the land of his people into the hands of European Jews.
The family I know still have the key for their house that they were forced to flee and pass to Jewish invaders.
How anyone cannot see that this will stir up hatred is beyond me and beyond the entire world who have not been force fed Israeli propaganda. The people I know are good people, they work hard and contribute to society, they are not religious, and they HATE Israel.
Who can blame them?
And for a bit of irony and colour, would you believe that their uncle / aunt (also a Pali Christian) is married to GW Bush's first cousin.
The "key to his house?" Oh brother, have you been suckered...
https://www.google.com/search?q=palestinian+key+symbol&es_sm=91&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FkrRU4upBse6oQTMqYC4BA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1382&bih=1247
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Wow, just wow. How can anyone in thier right minds say that Hamas and Palestine are doing this to themselves??? Jews are the only people that have the arrogance to do so.
Hitler did it to them, although on a smaller scale it's no different what they are doing to Palestine.
When Germany tried to invade other countries, when the countries fought back were they terrorists? Look at the death rate Isreal vs Palestine and see who is the murderous race!
Pigs.
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Wow, just wow. How can anyone in thier right minds say that Hamas and Palestine are doing this to themselves??? Jews are the only people that have the arrogance to do so.
Hitler did it to them, so now they do it to Palestine.
When Germany tried to invade other countries, when the countries fought back were they terrorists? Look at the death rate Isreal vs Palestine and see who is the murderous race!
Pigs.
Such ignorance.
If you can stomach reading something from a "JOOOOOO!", try this for a little reality: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shalom-motherfr/
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The "key to his house?" Oh brother, have you been suckered...
https://www.google.com/search?q=palestinian+key+symbol&es_sm=91&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FkrRU4upBse6oQTMqYC4BA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1382&bih=1247
Symbolic or not, Israel wasn't created out of thin air. They corralled a bunch of people who considered the land their own into a small space of land.
It is what it is, but is also indefensible.
Until they give the Palestinians a proper chunk of land and money, even if every Israeli thinks they don't deserve it, this will go on and on. But what is happening now is that world has lost patience with the way Israel uses disproportionate force and plays the victim. Their latest trick is to compare the Gaza rockets to the Blitz.
If the world is against you, rather than feeding a persecution complex, stick your head up and work out why.
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As is always the case with these displays ... pathetic.
Leave that part of the world to burn and war.
They like it that way.
Bunch of uncivilized savages.
Religion = ::)
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Such ignorance.
If you can stomach reading something from a "JOOOOOO!", try this for a little reality: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shalom-motherfr/
You are Jewish? (srs question, not trolling)
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If the world is against you, rather than feeding a persecution complex, stick your head up and work out why.
Or, as in the case of Israel, fight to survive. The "world" wants all of the jews of Israel driven into the sea. They don't want to do that. Frankly, if I were in charge, I would have gone to the nukes by now. Fuck it. The fucking towel heads are gonna hate you anyway, might as well scare the fuck out of them too.
And what will the world do? The UN? Obama? Please.
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You are Jewish? (srs question, not trolling)
Nope, Catholic. Sorry, don't have that angle to work.
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Such ignorance.
If you can stomach reading something from a "JOOOOOO!", try this for a little reality: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/shalom-motherfr/
Ah, the myth that Israel is a peaceful, small state surrounded and beset by bellicose Arab Neighbours still around!? Only still believed by the willfully ignorant, knee-jerk Conservative or the credulous. Peddle your wares elsewhere. ::)
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Ah, the myth that Israel is a peaceful, small state surrounded and beset by bellicose Arab Neighbours still around!? Only still believed by the willfully ignorant, knee-jerk Conservative or the credulous. Peddle your wares elsewhere. ::)
Ahh, the idiocy of the knee-jerk leftist that tries (and fails) to hide his obvious anti-semitism. Yes, the missiles raining on Israel are just a fabrication of the JOOOOOO Media, right? Dumb fuck.
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Ignorance??
Israel has settled on Palestinian land (invasion, see Geneva convention for details of how illegal it all is)
Israel has called Palestinians terrorists for fighting back
Israel are using excessive force (if UK or US were not sucking benjamin netanyahu's cock they would have been out and done for war crimes).
Israel are murdering innocent civilians.
Israel are indefensible, but yet they try, they try. Only people who believes their shit Is them.
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That we welcome so many from that part of the world is such a cruel joke.
They'll only bring that warring element to our shores with time.
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Or, as in the case of Israel, fight to survive. The "world" wants all of the jews of Israel driven into the sea. They don't want to do that. Frankly, if I were in charge, I would have gone to the nukes by now. Fuck it. The fucking towel heads are gonna hate you anyway, might as well scare the fuck out of them too.
And what will the world do? The UN? Obama? Please.
You generally come across as a decent guy but that is a seriously stupid comment.
We all have to get on. When you win a fight you can keep your victim crushed so he hates you forever or try to intelligently put him back together. This is what happened in Europe when there would have been a very strong argument to crush Germany completely. One problem with post WW1 politics is that they hammered Germany too hard allowing the Nazis to ultimately gain leverage.
You keep saying that it's a fight to survive but you fail to address what caused this in the first place. If I came along, smashed the shit out of you, moved into your house and made you live in a hut at the bottom of what used to be your garden, wtf would you think of me? I'd either have to kill you completely (and then all your friends and extended family will hate me forever) or say "Sorry AJ, this isn't ideal but I had to do it. Here's some nice new houses, money and education for you and your kids. One day we can put this behind us".
If you want to think about proportionate response, some Americans were killed by Ukrainians funded by Russia. The Israeli way would be to blast Russia (if they could bully it). Thankfully Americans are much smarter.
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Ahh, the idiocy of the knee-jerk leftist that tries (and fails) to hide his obvious anti-semitism. Yes, the missiles raining on Israel are just a fabrication of the JOOOOOO Media, right? Dumb fuck.
1/10 Try intelligence, next time. Goes farther.
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Oh here we go, just like most religious fools. If people don't believe their shit they start saying their are dumb and hate the people. Blanket statements for arrogant, blind fools.
You don't need to be anti Semitic to know what the Jews are doing is obviously fucked up.
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Oh here we go, just like most religious fools. If people don't believe their shit they start saying their are dumb and hate the people. Blanket statements for arrogant, blind fools.
You don't need to be anti Semitic to know what the Jews are doing is obviously fucked up.
Israelis not Jews.
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Ignorance??
Israel has settled on Palestinian land (invasion, see Geneva convention for details of how illegal it all is) Bullshit. It was the Transjordan and 2000 years before that Israel.
Israel has called Palestinians terrorists for fighting back. No, they are terrorists for terrorist activities against civilians
Israel are using excessive force (if UK or US were not sucking benjamin netanyahu's cock they would have been out and done for war crimes). Bullshit again. If the force was excessive, there would be so many more Pali deaths
Israel are murdering innocent civilians. Hamas is using them as shields
Israel are indefensible, but yet they try, they try. Only people who believes their shit Is them. Stupid opinion
Look, you are an ignorant jackass that knows nothing about the world. Why don't you go play with your dolls and let the adults in the world figure shit out
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AJ you must be trolling now.
The force used ISN'T excessive?
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
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Look, you are an ignorant jackass that knows nothing about the world. Why don't you go play with your dolls and let the adults in the world figure shit out
Now, you're self-identifying as an ignorant blowhard. Doesn't end well. Seen it many times before. Sure you want to do this?
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Look, you are an ignorant jackass that knows nothing about the world. Why don't you go play with your dolls and let the adults in the world figure shit out
AJ, they just bombed a UN hospital and killed 15 people, mostly kids. They have killed over 130 children (according to the UN) in the last 10 days.
And to use the "Hamas hide behind civilians" line is weak - they are corralled into a small strip of land.
When SO many people think someone is doing something wrong then they usually are. Even Shizzo had his supporters but everyone else could see the truth.
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Look, you are Jew right? Or family from Israel? Or lived in 'Israel' 2000 years ago in a previous idiot life? Lol
The fact is that land was Palestinian and after the 2nd world war the displaced Jews of the world needed some where to lay their hat. They thought, I know a couple of thousand years ago we owned that land so let's go and take it back. So many of them 'settled' there they needed more and more land, so took more and more and then penned the land owners in with controls over food and water.
Answer me this blind fool, if I blew your home up (the home your family had live in for generations) and killed your wife, your mother, your kids and then built another house on that land and then I moved into that house, what would you do?
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If the world is against you, rather than feeding a persecution complex, stick your head up and work out why.
For them, its never their fault. Eternal victimhood ;)
You would think after thousands of years and expulsion from dozens and dozens of nations, they would be able to say 'hey you know, maybe just maybe we have something to do with this'..lmao
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AJ, they just bombed a UN hospital and killed 15 people, mostly kids. They have killed over 130 children (according to the UN) in the last 10 days.
And to use the "Hamas hide behind civilians" line is weak - they are corralled into a small strip of land.
When SO many people think someone is doing something wrong then they usually are. Even Shizzo had his supporters but everyone else could see the truth.
The problem is Hamas is stashing rockets and missiles in the stupidest places, hospitals, schools, safe-houses. If Hamas cared about its people, they'd have a safe-zone where civilians could go and only fire rockets outside those safe-zones. But, of course, they follow civilians into supposed safe zones and start firing rockets from there, then blame Israel when they get shelled.
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This is an eye opener from another thread, not sure how to link:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
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AJ, they just bombed a UN hospital and killed 15 people, mostly kids. They have killed over 130 children (according to the UN) in the last 10 days.
And to use the "Hamas hide behind civilians" line is weak - they are corralled into a small strip of land.
When SO many people think someone is doing something wrong then they usually are. Even Shizzo had his supporters but everyone else could see the truth.
Because surrounding your bomb and rocket making factories with civilian homes isn't using them as a shield, fucking idiot
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This is an eye opener from another thread, not sure how to link:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Yes, its Israel's fault for protecting its citizens ::)
Maybe they should just disable the iron dome and disband their army, there would be more civilian casualties, leading to a more "equal playing field", yes?
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The problem is Hamas is stashing rockets and missiles in the stupidest places, hospitals, schools, safe-houses. If Hamas cared about its people, they'd have a safe-zone where civilians could go and only fire rockets outside those safe-zones. But, of course, they follow civilians into supposed safe zones and start firing rockets from there, then blame Israel when they get shelled.
This is a classic two wrongs don't make a right.
Should Hamas shell Israel? No. But I bet most Palestinians think they have little choice.
Should Israel react the way it does? Not a lot of people think so.
Remember what Israel did to Beirut a few years ago? And then what Sharon did years before that? The hatred for Israel (which a lot of us are smart enough to separate from "Jews") is visceral and as an outsider it is understandable.
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Because surrounding your bomb and rocket making factories with civilian homes isn't using them as a shield, fucking idiot
And your justification for the slaying of children on the beach playing football, witnessed by many foreign journalists?
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Because surrounding your bomb and rocket making factories with civilian homes isn't using them as a shield, fucking idiot
This discussion is over your head.
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these sand people are funny
bench
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Although i do not like israel and think they are assholes too, i do not pretend Hamas is anything good either. Although there are good and innocent palestinians being killed by the truckload, Islam is a cancer on the earth and must be eradicated.
So other than the kids getting killed, which is really sad, these two sides eradicating each other is a win-win imo ;D
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Honest Bob
Palestine = largely Arab
Israel = largely Jews
Can you tell me why I should separate the two, Israel from Jews? Israelis are Jewish people culturally and religiously.
I am open to clearing up my understanding.
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Honest Bob
Palestine = largely Arab
Israel = largely Jews
Can you tell me why I should separate the two, Israel from Jews? Israelis are Jewish people culturally and religiously.
I am open to clearing up my understanding.
1/5 of the population are Eastern European "Jews", in reality many are not Jewish by "Jewish law" (mother has to be Jewish for child to be Jew). I, for example, am half Jewish on my dad's side, so when I lived in Israel I was not considered Jewish. To become Israeli when immigrating you need to be married to a Jewish person or 7 generations back have Jewish ancestry. A lot of people who fled Russia/Ukraine/Belarus/etc... don't consider themselves Jewish, they just saw an opportunity to escape a shitty situation and took it. In fact, there have been outbreaks of antisemitism in Israel following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Russians used to (still do) beat Jews back in Russia (same goes for Ukraine, Belarus, etc...) so when they came to Israel they continued that. And when you're 7 generations removed from the culture its hard to consider yourself Jewish at all. Its mind-boggling that antisemites would rather live in Israel than Eastern Europe lol.
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Honest Bob
Palestine = largely Arab
Israel = largely Jews
Can you tell me why I should separate the two, Israel from Jews? Israelis are Jewish people culturally and religiously.
I am open to clearing up my understanding.
I wanted to draw a distinction because without it anything that is seen as anti-Israeli (in certain respects that would be me) versus anti-Jewish / anti -Semitic (not me at all).
Israeli = nationality / Jew = religion.
There are lots of Jews out there who don't think like Israelis.
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1/5 of the population are Eastern European "Jews", in reality many are not Jewish by "Jewish law" (mother has to be Jewish for child to be Jew). I, for example, am half Jewish on my dad's side, so when I lived in Israel I was not considered Jewish. To become Israeli when immigrating you need to be married to a Jewish person or 7 generations back have Jewish ancestry. A lot of people who fled Russia/Ukraine/Belarus/etc... don't consider themselves Jewish, they just saw an opportunity to escape a shitty situation and took it. In fact, there have been outbreaks of antisemitism in Israel following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Russians used to (still do) beat Jews back in Russia (same goes for Ukraine, Belarus, etc...) so when they came to Israel they continued that. And when you're 7 generations removed from the culture its hard to consider yourself Jewish at all. Its mind-boggling that antisemites would rather live in Israel than Eastern Europe lol.
Israel is a beautiful country full of beautiful women and it is amazing what they have done to the place. That versus Russia? Easy choice.
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I wanted to draw a distinction because without it anything that is seen as anti-Israeli (in certain respects that would be me) versus anti-Jewish / anti -Semitic (not me at all).
Israeli = nationality / Jew = religion.
There are lots of Jews out there who don't think like Israelis.
LOL this is a way better explanation than my history lesson ;D
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Israel is a beautiful country full of beautiful women and it is amazing what they have done to the place. That versus Russia? Easy choice.
100% agreed. I mean, I can see why they'd move, but if they hated Jews so much you'd think they'd rather live in filth than surrounded by Jews...
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100% agreed. I mean, I can see why they'd move, but if they hated Jews so much you'd think they'd rather live in filth than surrounded by Jews...
Trying to fathom irrational hatred is one of life's more futile ideas my friend.
Although to be fair, I don't really think much of the people in the country that I currently live in but I choose to be here because of the lifestyle / weather / house by the beach etc.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/palestinian-child-killed-every-2-hours-in-gaza-un-israel-hamas/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/palestinian-child-killed-every-2-hours-in-gaza-un-israel-hamas/)
U.N.: 1 child killed in Gaza every hour
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip -- Israeli troops battled Hamas militants on Wednesday near a southern Gaza Strip town as the U.S. secretary of state flew into Israel to press top-gear efforts for a truce in the conflict that has so far killed at least 657 Palestinians and 31 Israelis.
Neither side appeared to be backing down, after Palestinian rocket fire led several international airlines to cancel flights to Tel Aviv and Israeli troops clashed with Hamas near the Gaza town of Khan Younis in heavy fighting that forced dozens of families to flee. Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal later demanded Gaza's borders be open and an end to the blockade against it, calling Palestinians "the true owners of the land."
Trapped by the fighting in Khan Younis, a town on the southern edge of the Gaza Strip, dozens of Palestinian families scrambled to flee the area.ohn Kerry landed in Tel Aviv despite a Federal Aviation Administration ban following a Hamas rocket near the airport the day before, reflecting his determination to achieve a cease-fire agreement between the warring sides as international organizations, the United Nations and the U.S. government expressed mounting concern over the toll on Palestinian civilians.
"One child has been killed in Gaza every hour for the past two days," said a statement released Wednesday by the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).
According to OCHA, "a request for a humanitarian pause has been rejected by the Israeli authorities."
On Wednesday, the FAA said it was extending the ban on service by U.S. airlines to and from Tel Aviv for "up to an additional 24 hours."
(http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/07/23/89680210-5d7d-4539-8294-ae9007e085f7/thumbnail/620x350/748270d1accb373773180aa7f2bc77cf/gazawoundedgirl.jpg)
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Hamas is good shit, with a little olive oil and pita chips
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Thank you for that explanation.
It appears that the people that make up largest part of the population are Secular Jewish. I am enlightened, but only slightly.
How can Jew = religion, but most 'Jews' in Israel secular? I am now of the opinion that I don't want to detract from this thread by following this path. I'm sure there are Jews who think of Judaism as a race, religion, nation of people etc, dum de dum.
What the Israelis are doing at the moment, right now is (however it is dressed) abhorred.
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Or, as in the case of Israel, fight to survive. The "world" wants all of the jews of Israel driven into the sea. They don't want to do that. Frankly, if I were in charge, I would have gone to the nukes by now. Fuck it. The fucking towel heads are gonna hate you anyway, might as well scare the fuck out of them too.
And what will the world do? The UN? Obama? Please.
wow, nukes aye? With millions of innocent children that are of no concern to you...you'd fit right in during nazi Germany. Lots of evil in this one^. You act like Israel is on the losing side of this conflict losing mass casualties when in fact its the exact opposite - they are dictating and dominating. Youre a sick individual. The world would be a better place without your kind.
You zionazi scumbags make me sick.
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wow, nukes aye? With millions of innocent children that are of no concern to you...you'd fit right in during nazi Germany. Lots of evil in this one^. You act like Israel is on the losing side of this conflict losing mass casualties when in fact its the exact opposite - they are dictating and dominating. Youre a sick individual. The world would be a better place without your kind.
You zionazi scumbags make me sick.
As much as I disagree with dropping a nuke and committing mass genocide, I do have to say this: The only reason there aren't more casualties on the Israeli side is because the Israeli government actually protects its citizens. If not for the iron dome and the insane army they have, Israel would have been wiped off the map a long time ago. I don't think the "good" or "bad" side is determined by the number of casualties.
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Oh for goodness sake. Number if casualties?
So does this army have a notion of excessive force?
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As much as I disagree with dropping a nuke and committing mass genocide, I do have to say this: The only reason there aren't more casualties on the Israeli side is because the Israeli government actually protects its citizens. If not for the iron dome and the insane army they have, Israel would have been wiped off the map a long time ago. I don't think the "good" or "bad" side is determined by the number of casualties.
Have to laugh here. It's because of the billions in free military equipement supplied by the US. Come on man. So now Jews are denying that the US it their protector.
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Have to laugh here. It's because of the billions in free military equipement supplied by the US. Come on man. So now Jews Israelis are denying that the US it their protector.
Israelis aren't denying anything. Of course being allies with the US has its benefits, which include money for military purposes. But unlike other countries who get military and financial aid and squander it, or worse yet, use it to kill its own people, Israel invests in systems to protect its citizens.
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Israelis aren't denying anything. Of course being allies with the US has its benefits, which include money for military purposes. But unlike other countries who get military and financial aid and squander it, or worse yet, use it to kill its own people, Israel invests in systems to protect its citizens.
Wrong again. They aren't protecting their citizens, they're protecting their interests. Large US companies have built big offices in Israeli to funnel money. Tel Aviv has a big HP, Microsoft, HUGE motorrola and many other tech companies. Motorrola has done most of its development there. Israel is protecting their money funnel, not their citizens
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Wrong again. They aren't protecting their citizens, they're protecting their interests. Large US companies have built big offices in Israeli to funnel money. Tel Aviv has a big HP, Microsoft, HUGE motorrola and many other tech companies. Motorrola has done most of its development there. Israel is protecting their money funnel, not their citizens
LOL of course they protect businesses and companies who decide to invest in Israel as well. I'd expect any country to do that, that's the way the country makes money. Israel doesn't have oil or any other natural resource, so they've doubled down on medicine and technology. I don't see anything wrong with that...
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Nope...they're just protecting the $$$$ because they're JOOOOOOOOOOOOS.....
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Nope...they're just protecting the $$$$ because they're JOOOOOOOOOOOOS.....
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all your opinions mean shit, only Dorian Yates can speak on this matter and subject
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Nope...they're just protecting the $$$$ because they're JOOOOOOOOOOOOS.....
As soon as I saw "JOOOOOOOOOOOOS" I thought of this:
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all your opinions mean shit, only Dorian Yates can speak on this matter and subject
Yes, only a back like this could solve the Israel/Palestine conflict
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Yes, only a back like this could solve the Israel/Palestine conflict
(http://i45.tinypic.com/16jn6d.jpg)
Boy o' boy!
Who needs an iron dome, when all Dorian Yates needs to do is flare up his lats and he would deflect any and all missiles.
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I love how the Jews give labels to justify their cause. They kill someone with a gun and call them a terrorist, they kill someone without a gun and call them a human shield. They can go fuck themselves.
Terrorist supporter outed!
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The Palestinians were kicked out of Jordan because King Hussein got tired of their shit. Nobody with a brain and a desire to have a functioning society wants them around. They're a stupid, stupid lot...rather than taking the $$$ America throws at them and building something, they let their "leaders" skim the $$$ and the rest of the Arab world uses them as patsies to attack Israel.
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Ignorance??
Israel has settled on Palestinian land (invasion, see Geneva convention for details of how illegal it all is)
Israel has called Palestinians terrorists for fighting back
Israel are using excessive force (if UK or US were not sucking benjamin netanyahu's cock they would have been out and done for war crimes).
Israel are murdering innocent civilians.
Israel are indefensible, but yet they try, they try. Only people who believes their shit Is them.
What does the defensibility of Isreal have to do with anything??
But since you brought it up, they seem to be defending pretty well to me. But, Hamas is a terrorist organization. Not saying that palestinians are terrorists, but Hamas is. They do use human shields. Does Isreal use the pathetic rocket attacks as an excuse to pound Hamas, obviously yes. But Hamas doesn't do itself any favors by constantly launching shitty rockets into Isreal. Their own Muslin brothers don't back them up and hate them. Countries have been taking land from each other since the beggining of time. Why did Putin take Crimea? Because he could! Any action against him? lotta talk and "sanctions". The brits have the Faulkland Islands, should they? No, Argetina should. If they could take it militarily they would.
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That all these children are being maimed and killed because of the brainwashed adults is truly sickening.
Religion in any sense is a disease that plagues mankind, endlessly.
It mustn't be tolerated by those of us who are still of free and rational thought.
Never not take the opportunity to express your utter distaste for religion.
And more specifically, express your hatred for Islam and your wish for non-Muslim countries of the world to eradicate any and all goodwill shown towards those who follow the disease and spread its filth wherever they go.
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You generally come across as a decent guy but that is a seriously stupid comment.
We all have to get on. When you win a fight you can keep your victim crushed so he hates you forever or try to intelligently put him back together. This is what happened in Europe when there would have been a very strong argument to crush Germany completely. One problem with post WW1 politics is that they hammered Germany too hard allowing the Nazis to ultimately gain leverage.
You keep saying that it's a fight to survive but you fail to address what caused this in the first place. If I came along, smashed the shit out of you, moved into your house and made you live in a hut at the bottom of what used to be your garden, wtf would you think of me? I'd either have to kill you completely (and then all your friends and extended family will hate me forever) or say "Sorry AJ, this isn't ideal but I had to do it. Here's some nice new houses, money and education for you and your kids. One day we can put this behind us".
If you want to think about proportionate response, some Americans were killed by Ukrainians funded by Russia. The Israeli way would be to blast Russia (if they could bully it). Thankfully Americans are much smarter.
Palestinians themselves are the offspring of Jerusalem invaders. Nobody stole any land, Merchants purchased Israel. Israel was once barren and the Jews made the desert bloom, drained swamps, cleared water channels, reclaimed wasteland, forested bare hills, cleared rocks, and removed salt from the soil and created a prosperous democratic society.
And how on earth can you believe Palestinians are fighting back, every ARAB state surrounding Israel has declared was on israel at one point or another. And every time they get their arses kicked. Palestinians are like the schoolyard bully who picks fights constantly and regualrly gets their arses kicked because their too dumb to fight within their weight limit. Palestine has made no secret of it's deep seated hatred for the Jew and it's desire to commit genocide against the race. Don't get sucked into the Muslim propaganda, Palestinians are a lying, immoral, moronic and pathetic people who deserve everything they get and more.
The Palestinians and Muslims in general remind me of a spoilt child, whose parents always indulge his every desire. If the child doesn't get his own way he terrorisies, provokes and harrases his parents until they give in. Such a child believes he has the right to provoke and annoy even a sleeping lion, pulling it's tail and pulling it's mane. And when the powerful lion finally has enough and mauls the child, the child then wants the parents to kill the lion. Supporters of HAMAS and Palestine are like the parents of such a spoiled child.