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Phillip Heath
30 July · Edited
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Joe Manno Mr Heath why are you shafting everyone with this outrageously priced protein...53 bux for 2lbs...really?
Like · Reply · 13 · 30 July at 18:29 · Edited
Phillip Heath Joe Manno its actually 2.7lbs and its on par with all others beating them with our price/ounce ratio but you didn't mind looking that up huh. Well, good luck with your training and best wishes outside of that.
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he is gonna make a lot of money, still many kids will buy it
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whey isolate with only 83% protein seems pretty crappy for that price
Phil thinking his name will make him a buck anyways. Maybe it will. But even though he is Mr. O he doesn't have many fans. Probably because he's black. White kids who buys the powders look up to white guys like Cutler and Centopani probably..
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Whey is whey
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Whey is whey
yep
but a high % isolate is better for when dieting.
this isn't even that high%...
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Go to Costco and get a 6lb bag of Cytosport Whey Protein for $39.00. Lasts over 2 months.
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lol @ $53.00 for 2.5lbs. Rip off
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Phil's a getbigger. I wish him the best.
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before Gifted Nutrition phil's response would be something along the lines of
go buy the shit you always buy and continue being a nobody and ill use what is use to get my 3 sandows , unfolllow me if you dont like my shit Hater
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yep
but a high % isolate is better for when dieting.
this isn't even that high%...
All I know is I buy slightly more expensive stuff for mixing quality.
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before Gifted Nutrition phil's response would be something along the lines of
go buy the shit you always buy and ill use what is use to get my 3 sandows , unfolllow me if you dont like my shit Hater
Lol I'd only like him more no homo
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All I know is I buy slightly more expensive stuff for mixing quality.
Get a blender.
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Wider than....
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Wider than....
A bag of Heaths?
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Wider than....
2.5x heaths wider than phil heath.
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$1.55 a serving.
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Good on him for the comeback on Facebook, everyone's just got something negative to say
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I never use powders anymore. ... BUT, when I do, I buy isopure, even thoigh its outrageously priced. Only powder ive ised that I like the taste/consistency.
Whenever I use whey, I get sick to my stomach for the next 45 min.
I eat no dairy so I wonder if that has something to do with it.
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I never use powders anymore. ... BUT, when I do, I buy isopure, even thoigh its outrageously priced. Only powder ive ised that I like the taste/consistency.
Whenever I use whey, I get sick to my stomach for the next 45 min.
I eat no dairy so I wonder if that has something to do with it.
I only ever take BCAA .
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I like to move it move it.
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whey isolate with only 83% protein seems pretty crappy for that price
Very poor for an isolate.
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whey isolate with only 83% protein seems pretty crappy for that price
Phil thinking his name will make him a buck anyways. Maybe it will. But even though he is Mr. O he doesn't have many fans. Probably because he's black. White kids who buys the powders look up to white guys like Cutler and Centopani probably..
Are you fucking retarded do you think we are still living in slavery days, so white kids dont look up to lebron james cause he is black and they dont buy rap cds from jay z cause he is black. ::)
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Phil thinking his name will make him a buck anyways. Maybe it will. But even though he is Mr. O he doesn't have many fans. Probably because he's black. White kids who buys the powders look up to white guys like Cutler and Centopani probably..
This is stupid! Ronnie Coleman put BSN on the map. No one remembers Alpha Helix and where the fuck is Cutler Sig Line sold? I won't get into the non-factor Centopani. Phil has a clean record, but he's a bit of a dud MrO like Dexter Jackson. I have no problem associating Muscle Meds with Kai Greene.
In others words of all the guys I listed above, two are full of personality, and the other three are blank slates.
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I like to move it move it.
with girls all over the world?
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Do anyone buy whey powder nowadays?
Isn't a bcaa better?
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Lol even his supplement is THAT narrow
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Do anyone buy whey powder nowadays?
Isn't a bcaa better?
Whey protein contains tryptophan which reduces the effects of BCAA. So it's usually better taking BCAA about 45 min. before workout and taking your protein shake right after your workout or before you go to bed. Milk also has tryptophan, so you don't wanna mix that with your BCAA. Hope this helps.
some people would say bcaas are pointless. take it for what it's worth.
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Phillip Heath Joe Manno its actually 2.7lbs and its on par with all others beating them with our price/ounce ratio but you didn't mind looking that up huh. Well, good luck with your training and best wishes outside of that.
it's still overpriced, phil, if you are lurking. a true price point, since you don't have an organic product, would be 29.99-34.99.
i'm assuming your seller is charging about 19.99 for that tub, which leads to the high markup.
anyway, good luck.
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Phil's a getbigger. I wish him the best.
me too. He will win Mr.O .9 times, watch.
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Whey protein contains tryptophan which reduces the effects of BCAA. So it's usually better taking BCAA about 45 min. before workout and taking your protein shake right after your workout or before you go to bed. Milk also has tryptophan, so you don't wanna mix that with your BCAA. Hope this helps.
some people would say bcaas are pointless. take it for what it's worth.
Ok. I have a whey at home just Put it aside when I started bcaas..
I mix with milk and water usually, but I am cutting lactose at the moment
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it's still overpriced, phil, if you are lurking. a true price point, since you don't have an organic product, would be 29.99-34.99.
i'm assuming your seller is charging about 19.99 for that tub, which leads to the high markup.
anyway, good luck.
19.99? Try 1.99$ Where is all that whey coming from? There is no one on this earth who is making just whey protein, but there is plenty of cheese makers, and whey is their side product. It used to be something which they send to be a part of the forage for animals, but then they realize that there is whole industry which need lot of protein. Cheese makers used to sell it by few bucks per metric ton, now they sell it as a "product" at 50$ per 2,7 lb. All what those whey- sellers do before they pack that crap in the neat containers, is filtering and adding some flavors, and price goes sky high. In Finland we buy high quality whey isolate at 117,7€ per 8,8lb, so 2.7 lb would be 36$..
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This is stupid! Ronnie Coleman put BSN on the map. No one remembers Alpha Helix and where the fuck is Cutler Sig Line sold? I won't get into the non-factor Centopani. Phil has a clean record, but he's a bit of a dud MrO like Dexter Jackson. I have no problem associating Muscle Meds with Kai Greene.
In others words of all the guys I listed above, two are full of personality, and the other three are blank slates.
yet, Ronnie has 800.000 fans on Facebook.
Kai and Phil each have about 2,1 million. Strange really.
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yet, Ronnie has 800.000 fans on Facebook.
Kai and Phil each have about 2,1 million. Strange really.
Phil and Kai's pages are interactive and are updated regularly. Ronnie's account on instagram is crap and seems to be run by someone that doesn't really like Ronnie.
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Phil Heath is just another scammer hoping to attract young bodybuilding neophytes to empty their wallets and buy his overpriced goop. I use to formulate products like this. The labeling/packaging costs as much (if not more) than the actual product. All these supplement companies do is buy standard whey protein in bulk, add flavor, artificial sweeteners, etc... then re-package it and make 3-4x profit. It's very easy to do... this is why you see new protein brands come and go so often.
Go to CVS and buy their whey protein brand... it's the same exact same thing, but only pennies per serving. It's on sale at least once a month.
Better yet, just eat eggs.
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Doesn't this violate a non compete agreement athletes sign with supplement companies. It would be unfortunate if Muscle tech attorneys were to learn about someone violating such an agreement and having this end up in a court of law for violating a legal contract
And they're going to put this guy on NBC. Who's curious to see what happens when they bring up Alex Rodriguez and steroid usage along with mma.
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how does his isolate compare to ronnies ?
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you would think he would be smart enough to charge less and go for mass market volume.
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At that price he's basically lost 3/4 of the millions of fools who purchase this snake oil...And when people realize it's not a top notch whey, they will not be using the protein for very long...Also the man won 3 Mr. Olympias by not using his products(because they didn't exist). So basically they are not needed...Lipstick on a pig it seems :-\
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Go to Costco and get a 6lb bag of Cytosport Whey Protein for $39.00. Lasts over 2 months.
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lol @ $53.00 for 2.5lbs. Rip off
this.
also, I could be wrong but I don't think grown men give a shit who's face is on the label, we look at the back of the jar, not the front.
ingredients/ price per gram. anything else I really don't care.
I also am not too concerned with mixing/taste. if it makes you sick (shock) that's one thing...but my take is it's not an ice cream sundae, and i'm not trying to make believe it is. it's a nutrient, protein. chug it down...make a funny face if you have to...and go about your day.
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cytosport is mainly concentrate.cant compare the two. try again. try harder.
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cytosport is mainly concentrate.cant compare the two. try again. try harder.
It's all the same shit.
a little history lesson. my ex was an exec for NBTY, which owns Nature's Bounty, and all of the Vitamin World stores. I had cupboards filled to the top with every supplement known to man. I could literally use as much protein as I wanted , any kind, and never run out. so I did. they are all the same, I never used one that visibly made a difference in my body.
you can post all of the pseudoscience and marketing stuff you want, I know from first hand experience
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this.
also, I could be wrong but I don't think grown men give a shit who's face is on the label, we look at the back of the jar, not the front.
ingredients/ price per gram. anything else I really don't care.
I also am not too concerned with mixing/taste. if it makes you sick (shock) that's one thing...but my take is it's not an ice cream sundae, and i'm not trying to make believe it is. it's a nutrient, protein. chug it down...make a funny face if you have to...and go about your day.
Exactly. They are only buying it because Heaths face is on there, and of course he claims that is what made him big.
Agreed, I am not overly concerned with taste, as long as it doesn't make me vomit or sick.
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cytosport is mainly concentrate.cant compare the two. try again. try harder.
LOL!!!
As groink said, its all the same shit Like taking one over the other is going to make a drastic difference anyway. ::) ::)
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LOL!!!
As groink said, its all the same shit Like taking one over the other is going to make a drastic difference anyway. ::) ::)
im not suggesting there will be a drastic difference but there are differences. it would be fair to compare one isolate to another, not throw in soy there for example and then say its the same just because there will be no drastic difference.
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how does his isolate compare to ronnies ?
Ronnie's needs Rose Hips.
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Ronnie's needs Rose Hips.
lolz
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how does his isolate compare to ronnies ?
Phil's comes with insulin.
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Just more overpriced crap clogging shelves everywhere.
His fart powder is no better or worse than any others. And if there IS a difference, it certainly isn't enough to make ANY difference in your physique/strength gaols.
As another says, Phil never used his own powder to win anything. It wasn't in existence. And now, even if he uses his own product, how would he even know if it's working? His drug and hormone use is so powerful, and of such importance to what he looks like today, that any positive outcome from supplement use is negligible.
And as another member says, the stock ingredients for these powders are acquired from the same distribution companies that sell to every other fart-powder company.
I was there when MuscleTech began ... I was working for Pinnacle during its bodybuilding supps phase ... and I have seen the whole scene from the inside, for decades.
Heath's crap is no better or worse than buying some eggs and a steak. And drinking some coffee before hitting the gym.
He represents the truest definition of false advertising.
Go fuck yourself, Heath.
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The one good thing is Phil isnt using Aspartame, so they say? They say Stevia, and Aguave.What I dont like is there is some fillers in the product that dont need to be there.If you do the math it comes up 83% protein.Now there could be alot of fillers in this product.Whey protein Isolate is anything above 90% protein.Whey Concentrate is 35-89% protein.
Id Phil actaully using Whey Protein Isolate.A assay would tell us.
If Phil wanted to make a great product he would use Milk Protein Isolate.It has 22.7 % naturally occuring L-Glutamine vs Whey Protein Isolate only having 19.3 %.Plus Milk Isolate is the closest thing to mother milk.It curdles in the stomach so it is time released like food.
If I was to buy a protein on the market now.I would By Pro Complex, Beverly International has a good blend, or TRUEPROTEIN.COM.Blended protein is the best proteins because it has a broader amino acid profile.Whey protein Isolate may be the fastest absorption.But it digests in 30-45 minutes leaving you catbolic the rest of the time.
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FFS guys it's really not this serious
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Just more overpriced crap clogging shelves everywhere.
His fart powder is no better or worse than any others. And if there IS a difference, it certainly isn't enough to make ANY difference in your physique/strength gaols.
As another says, Phil never used his own powder to win anything. It wasn't in existence. And now, even if he uses his own product, how would he even know if it's working? His drug and hormone use is so powerful, and of such importance to what he looks like today, that any positive outcome from supplement use is negligible.
And as another member says, the stock ingredients for these powders are acquired from the same distribution companies that sell to every other fart-powder company.
I was there when MuscleTech began ... I was working for Pinnacle during its bodybuilding supps phase ... and I have seen the whole scene from the inside, for decades.
Heath's crap is no better or worse than buying some eggs and a steak. And drinking some coffee before hitting the gym.
He represents the truest definition of false advertising.
Go fuck yourself, Heath.
Hawking supplements is one of the staples of revenue generation in the industry and has been for decades. Heath would be foolish not to capitalize on his status as Mr. Olympia and do likewise. His supplements will be no better than the rest, but if an uninformed consumer pays too much for his products, buyer beware. The public need to stop allowing a name endorser, or flashy labels sway their purchases and actually learn to read labels. As the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted.
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.But it digests in 30-45 minutes leaving you catbolic the rest of the time.
and that's when you get a real meal in
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FFS guys it's really not this serious
apparantely it is, the tough guys at getbig all break down in tears over bodybuilders "ripping people off" ive never seen a bunch of bigger crybabies anywhere on the internet.
it cannot be that heath put out a product that is causing all this, were talking a life time of suffering, blaming their shitty gains on the supplement industry who didnt deliver steroid-like-results :D
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Guys if you really want to grow dont waste your money on whey powder buy organic milk from grass fed cows its available in whole or lactose free.
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yes but i dont want casein
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I've addressed the matter
https://www.facebook.com/philheath
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It's all the same shit.
a little history lesson. my ex was an exec for NBTY, which owns Nature's Bounty, and all of the Vitamin World stores. I had cupboards filled to the top with every supplement known to man. I could literally use as much protein as I wanted , any kind, and never run out. so I did. they are all the same, I never used one that visibly made a difference in my body.
you can post all of the pseudoscience and marketing stuff you want, I know from first hand experience
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What was his name?
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Quit wasting money on this crap and drink some egg whites.
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I've addressed the matter
https://www.facebook.com/philheath
Could a mod please closed this thread and delete all future threads about phil heath protein since vince goodsum has addressed the matter so there is nothing else left for us to talk about.
Now vince since this matter is closed can you address the gaza in the middle east I am getting tired of listening to it in the news.
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FFS guys it's really not this serious
The low % of L-Glutamine in your PWO shake is holding you back Enzo.
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FFS guys it's really not this serious
You sound like the kind of guy who continually gets 2nd place at 3rd tier shows due to your lack of understanding of all aspects of the anabolic window.
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Go to Costco and get a 6lb bag of Cytosport Whey Protein for $39.00. Lasts over 2 months.
(http://images.costco.com/image/media/350-825872-847__1.jpg)
lol @ $53.00 for 2.5lbs. Rip off
Won't work as good if it's not endorsed by a pro bodybuilder genius... ::)
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Won't work as good if it's not endorsed by a pro bodybuilder genius... ::)
It's the Principle of Associative Anabolic Properties.
It's like when a person shops at the same Payless Shoes as Idris Elba. They appear buffer and smarter as a result.
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Won't work as good if it's not endorsed by a pro bodybuilder genius... ::)
True dat. Dat dere cell tech.
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I think Phil belongs just fine in the snake oil powder industry.
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Phil's a getbigger. I wish him the best.
X2
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the effects of placebo is supported by science
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Go to Costco and get a 6lb bag of Cytosport Whey Protein for $39.00. Lasts over 2 months.
(http://images.costco.com/image/media/350-825872-847__1.jpg)
lol @ $53.00 for 2.5lbs. Rip off
TWO MONTHS? I wish. A bag that size would last me three weeks (four, if I stretch it).
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TWO MONTHS? I wish. A bag that size would last me three weeks (four, if I stretch it).
You must be a very large man.
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You must be a very large man.
frogtech bulking cycle
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why would you buy such shit? protein powder is waste of money.
i've tried 60g protein a day (food) to 250g protein a day (supplements) to anything in between.
same fucking body.
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You must be a very large man.
Not quite. But, I'm working on it. I'm an offseason 231. I'm hoping to get to 240 by the end of the year.
why would you buy such shit? protein powder is waste of money.
i've tried 60g protein a day (food) to 250g protein a day (supplements) to anything in between.
same fucking body.
Your count must be off. No way are you the same size taking over 4 times as much protein, unless the rest of your diet was pitiful (i.e. no carbs).
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i use three criteria:
1. taste
2. solubility
3. grams of protein / cal
and to a lesser extent price... according to these three, i alternate between ON 100% natural and isopure. lol @ anyone who tries to assess the "effectiveness" of a protein powder
gayer than phil heath ::)
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Not quite. But, I'm working on it. I'm an offseason 231. I'm hoping to get to 240 by the end of the year.
Oh....do you even lift?
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Oh....do you even lift?
For over 25 years. And I've enjoyed every bit of it.
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For over 25 years. And I've enjoyed every bit of it.
Good luck with your goals friend.
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Never liked Heath, don't trust a man that's deeper than he is wide.
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Not quite. But, I'm working on it. I'm an offseason 231. I'm hoping to get to 240 by the end of the year.
Your count must be off. No way are you the same size taking over 4 times as much protein, unless the rest of your diet was pitiful (i.e. no carbs).
My abs came in at around 170 lbs when I was on 60-70g protein a day. My abs came in at around 170 lbs when I was on 250g protein a day for a full year. Same fucking amount of muscle, my friend.
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Never liked Heath, don't trust a man that's deeper than he is wide.
there is a gay joke somewhere in there.
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there is a gay joke somewhere in there.
lol... true
Need Kahn.N.Singh to figure that one out.
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My abs came in at around 170 lbs when I was on 60-70g protein a day. My abs came in at around 170 lbs when I was on 250g protein a day for a full year. Same fucking amount of muscle, my friend.
My abs came in around 140 lbs, when I was on 60 grams of protein a day. My arms, legs, chest, back, and shoulders came in at 210 lbs when I was on 250+ grams of protein a day for several months.
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My abs came in at around 170 lbs when I was on 60-70g protein a day. My abs came in at around 170 lbs when I was on 250g protein a day for a full year. Same fucking amount of muscle, my friend.
My abs came in around 140 lbs, when I was on 60 grams of protein a day. My arms, legs, chest, back, and shoulders came in at 210 lbs when I was on 250+ grams of protein a day for several months.
I've read these two posts several times and I can't for the life of me understand them... lol
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I've read these two posts several times and I can't for the life of me understand them... lol
Just two bros comparing Internet cock sizes, nothing to see here.