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Simple Simon/UKJeff is a person with a tremendous need to engage others in an argumentative fashion. It doesn't matter the subject, he will at first passively, then aggressively, try to argue and ridicule. No doubt his childhood family life must have been a nightmare. A shrink would have a field day with this guy.
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It's all about the tan.Tan for men is like makeup for women, can raise you up to 3 points or so in attractiveness, it removes all skin blemishes..The wrestler here looks like shit when he has no hair dye, dyed eyebrows,tan and stubble, gives his face no contrasting colours or features.
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No offense, brother...but, there's about >20 years between those photos.
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No offense, brother...but, there's about >20 years between those photos.
And he was in a wheelchair with a severe spinal injury for years. Most would probably still be in the wheelchair so I would say he is doing much better than most.
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Looks to have lost some weight and looks much better.
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Looks to have lost some weight and looks much better.
Sobriety is rather amazing.
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Looks to have lost some weight and looks much better.
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http://deadspin.com/can-diamond-dallas-page-save-wrestlings-walking-dead-793015043 (http://deadspin.com/can-diamond-dallas-page-save-wrestlings-walking-dead-793015043)
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Doing steroids cycles for 10 to 20 years while boozing/drugging takes a toll. How many 25 year olds juicing have the face of 35 year olds? How many 35 juicers could pass for 50 year olds?
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TA is right; you can't take professional promotional photos and compare them to mugshots. Comparing the promo shots to the hall of fame stills is accurate.
Posting video of the guy drugged/drunk as the relevant comparison is just as dumb.
That said the years have been rough on the Bad Guy..... :-[
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I was in the corporate world a long time and have seen horrible aging. I was one of the only guys that hit the gym, didn't drink like a fish and eat like shit. Traveling every week, sleeping in hotels, customer dinners, 80 hour weeks etc can kill you.
And let's not forget - stress kills!
how does one actually work 80 hrs a week?
is that an exageration ?
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Looks good here. Good for him. :)
X2 he looks real healthy and didnt age that bad at all
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Simple Simon is being a moron here.
He's not being a moron , getting old really sucks.
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He's not being a moron , getting old really sucks.
It sure as hell does. Physically I can pass for someone 20 years younger. Especially with a wife 17 yrs my jr. But what screws me up is my shoulders (from too many years doing heavy benches) and now my freaking knees are going.
Sucks big time. But like someone once said, It's better to look good than to feel good, LOL. But I mostly feel good too :)
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how does one actually work 80 hrs a week?
is that an exageration ?
It's brutal and often thankless.
I've worked stretches of 90-100 hours for months and months.
Never again.
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how does one actually work 80 hrs a week?
is that an exageration ?
Not at all because I did it many times like Man of Steel. Corporate world shows no mercy.
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Toothpick of peace.
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That's why aging must be eradicated. And it will... We may be the last generations (of civilized societies of course) who have no choice, later on it will be usual to not age and live indefinitely, like some of the animal species that won the evolution game through billions of years. Sounds very crazy to most, tho' if you dwell deep enough in this kind of science - it gets obvious that it's not just possible, it's inevitable (if some cataclysms/wars won't get in a way). That's the main goal of evolution - a genetic code that can keep himself alive for as long as possible.
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That's why aging must be eradicated. And it will... We may be the last generations (of civilized societies of course) who have no choice, later on it will be usual to not age and live indefinitely, like some of the animal species that won the evolution game through billions of years. Sounds very crazy to most, tho' if you dwell deep enough in this kind of science - it gets obvious that it's not just possible, it's inevitable (if some cataclysms/wars won't get in a way). That's the main goal of evolution - a genetic code that can keep himself alive for as long as possible.
We can`t even get the public decent health care. I know you fear aging because and are obsessed with it, but at some point you are going to have to realize your pipe dream, even if the technology is available, will never happen writ large.
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how does one actually work 80 hrs a week?
is that an exageration ?
you either give up sleep or do nothing but work...becomes very painful if repeated for more than a couple weeks.
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Not at all because I did it many times like Man of Steel. Corporate world shows no mercy.
crazy world
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The lady on bottom left corner makes this video even grander. ;D
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that's not artie lange'from the howard stern show'
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It sure as hell does. Physically I can pass for someone 20 years younger. Especially with a wife 17 yrs my jr. But what screws me up is my shoulders (from too many years doing heavy benches) and now my freaking knees are going.
Sucks big time. But like someone once said, It's better to look good than to feel good, LOL. But I mostly feel good too :)
IM DEALING WITH THE DELTOID ISSUES ALSO,IVE BEEN GRINDING MY DELTS NOW FOR ALMOST 40YRS WITH WEIGHTS :o
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We can`t even get the public decent health care. I know you fear aging because and are obsessed with it, but at some point you are going to have to realize your pipe dream, even if the technology is available, will never happen writ large.
Public health care? We speak money here, not a widespread medicine for every poor tax payer. Some people said we are never gonna fly, we are never gonna land on a moon, etc... nothing new. Extraordinary shift of a paradigm usualy is usualy extraoradinary opposed too. I'm merely encouraging the society to be more conscious of this regard, as the funding of billions of dollars that go to cancer research, should be redirected to aging (as cancer ant most other serious disseases are a direct manifestation of aging. Thus - any research on alzhaimers for ex. is pretty futile, it does not solve anything). I'm afraid of these horrible ilnesses like Alzhaimer, which to me equals the thing you call "aging".
Aging will be solved by about 2035-45, according by someone like R.Kurzweil. Mya be true, may be not, the fact is - life and health care will be very very different after 30 years from now on. Life was very different merely 10 years ago, and the technological change is exponential, not linear, the next 10 years will bring even more changes, and so on, at an increasing magnitude.
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Public health care? We speak money here, not a widespread medicine for every poor tax payer. Some people said we are never gonna fly, we are never gonna land on a moon, etc... nothing new. Extraordinary shift of a paradigm usualy is usualy extraoradinary opposed too. I'm merely encouraging the society to be more conscious of this regard, as the funding of billions of dollars that go to cancer research, should be redirected to aging (as cancer ant most other serious disseases are a direct manifestation of aging. Thus - any research on alzhaimers for ex. is pretty futile, it does not solve anything). I'm afraid of these horrible ilnesses like Alzhaimer, which to me equals the thing you call "aging".
Aging will be solved by about 2035-45, according by someone like R.Kurzweil. Mya be true, may be not, the fact is - life and health care will be very very different after 30 years from now on. Life was very different merely 10 years ago, and the technological change is exponential, not linear, the next 10 years will bring even more changes, and so on, at an increasing magnitude.
keep telling yourself that LOLOL.
Davinci the robot ::)
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Public health care? We speak money here, not a widespread medicine for every poor tax payer. Some people said we are never gonna fly, we are never gonna land on a moon, etc... nothing new. Extraordinary shift of a paradigm usualy is usualy extraoradinary opposed too. I'm merely encouraging the society to be more conscious of this regard, as the funding of billions of dollars that go to cancer research, should be redirected to aging (as cancer ant most other serious disseases are a direct manifestation of aging. Thus - any research on alzhaimers for ex. is pretty futile, it does not solve anything). I'm afraid of these horrible ilnesses like Alzhaimer, which to me equals the thing you call "aging".
Aging will be solved by about 2035-45, according by someone like R.Kurzweil. Mya be true, may be not, the fact is - life and health care will be very very different after 30 years from now on. Life was very different merely 10 years ago, and the technological change is exponential, not linear, the next 10 years will bring even more changes, and so on, at an increasing magnitude.
Dude...life sucked, sucks and will keep sucking all the same, sorry to burst your bubble. Life will always be the same as we ll always be the same animals. Power = better odds of survival = hapiness. The most powerful are the happiest. The poorest, unlucky ones will always try to go up and the powerful richest ones will always try to keep the weaker ones down. A never ending circle of animals fighting for resources, mates, power, until something external or internal to our specie makes the whole thing end.
A problem with your reasoning is you ll be dead waaaay before any kind of scientific advance you re dreaming about is made if it's ever made. And you ll probably never be rich enough to afford the stuff you talk about. Neither would your kids or grandkids, as you dont even intend to have an offspring. You re bottom feeder just like the rest of us on here.
Look, to you life is about playing videos games, surfing the web, working and lifting weights while banging a diff girl once in a while, until your dying day, we get your point.
Some prefer to choose kids and family. For those who choose it and arent forced into it.
Life is still pointless in both cases, no matter how hard you try to give it a "better" meaning, it's just what it is. We re animals blindly doing animal stuff until we die.
As you said it it's all about brainwashing yourself into being content with what you have. Fabricating a "superior meaning" that keeps you going.
In the end we re all drones who never chose to be spawned into the brutal jungle life is and who barely adapt day to day to survive random threats with what we ve been completely randomly given by "mother nature" (this whore).
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keep telling yourself that LOLOL.
Davinci the robot ::)
What is so funny or "negative" that I'm saying? Are you mad that you are older and chances are lower or what? Geez... some of you are very sensitive here for no apparent reason sometimes. My actual point was that if more people (amongst scientists too) would be more conscious - we could have that kind of medicine faster and "later years" for many people would be a LOT more pleasurable. Some day there will be a choice - to live further or to die "naturally". It is not sci fi, there ARE animal species that does not age (many doesn't even know this). But at the same time I understand that you can't make this kind of paradigma shit to happen instantly, after so many centuries of convincing ourselves (out of desperation, obviously) that "it's all good and natural".
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What is so funny or "negative" that I'm saying? Are you mad that you are older and chances are lower or what? Geez... some of you are very sensitive here for no apparent reason sometimes. My actual point was that if more people (amongst scientists too) would be more conscious - we could have that kind of medicine faster and "later years" for many people would be a LOT more pleasurable. Some day there will be a choice - to live further or to die "naturally". It is not sci fi, there ARE animal species that does not age (many doesn't even know this). But at the same time I understand that you can't make this kind of paradigma shit to happen instantly, after so many centuries of convincing ourselves (out of desperation, obviously) that "it's all good and natural".
Dude, heaven on earth will never exist, and if it ever does, you or your genes in someone else wont be there to be part of it, if you dont want kids. You re illogical.
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Dude...life sucked, sucks and will keep sucking all the same, sorry to burst your bubble. Life will always be the same as we ll always be the same animals. Power = better odds of survival = hapiness. The most powerful are the happiest.
Problem is you ll be dead waaaay before any kind of scientific advance you re dreaming about is made if it's ever made. And you ll probably never be rich enough to afford the stuff you talk about. Neither would your kids or grandkids, as you dont intend to have an offspring.
Look, to you life is about playing videos games, surfing the web, working and lifting weights while banging a diff girl once in a while, until your dying day, we get your point.
Some prefer to choose kids and family. For those who choose it and arent forced into it.
Life is still pointless in both cases, no matter how hard you try to give it a "better" meaning, it's just what is is. As you said it it's all about brainwashing yourself into being content with what you have. In the end we re all drones who never chose to be spawned into the brutal jungle life is.
This ...exactly
and at least where would the immortal live ? on a planet they have already destroyed ?
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This ...exactly
and at least where would the immortal live ? on a planet they have already destroyed ?
doesnt being immortal gets old after a while? except if our advanced grandgrandgrandgrandetc kids find a cure to life getting boring/old?
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Dude...life sucked, sucks and will keep sucking all the same, sorry to burst your bubble. Life will always be the same as we ll always be the same animals. Power = better odds of survival = hapiness. The most powerful are the happiest.
Problem is you ll be dead waaaay before any kind of scientific advance you re dreaming about is made if it's ever made. And you ll probably never be rich enough to afford the stuff you talk about. Neither would your kids or grandkids, as you dont intend to have an offspring.
Look, to you life is about playing videos games, surfing the web, working and lifting weights while banging a diff girl once in a while, until your dying day, we get your point.
Some prefer to choose kids and family. For those who choose it and arent forced into it.
Life is still pointless in both cases, no matter how hard you try to give it a "better" meaning, it's just what is is. As you said it it's all about brainwashing yourself into being content with what you have. In the end we re all drones who never chose to be spawned into the brutal jungle life is.
Don't be so sure that we will be the same animals, 50 years from now, after humans will start tweaking themselves on a genetic/mollekcular level. It's very possible that humans will become a very different kind of animals from a current state.
The time scale, I guess you, like most people who are not very familiar with the way technological advances happen, evaluate everything from a current state of things. That is a mistake. Progress is exponential (technological) and I can assure you (it doesn't mean anything, I know) that YOU will see first serious and working anti-aging therapies in your life time, maybe you will even use some. That won't be full blown regeneration (that one will come gradually, almost unnoticeably, as a sum of various different approaches), but it will be a huge leap towards a better human condition in that sense. Of course - money will be the main thing, like always. BTW, do you know how life expectancy is increasing? (http://www.nia.nih.gov/health/publication/why-population-aging-matters-global-perspective/trend-2-increasing-life ). These numbers will speed up too even more. Your kids will probably live to 100 easily and in a relatively good health.
And I agree on your second point (except video games and banging random girls. I like to bang girls, but not randomly, I'm just sceptical about other things we discussed quite some times already), it's meaningless and it doesn't matter anyway. But if we are here - it would be great to add some more quality to that existence if that is possible. Health and youth (it's the same really) is the main factor, everything else comes after...
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Dude, heaven on earth will never exist, and if it ever does, you or your genes in someone else wont be there to be part of it, if you dont want kids. You re illogical.
I disagree. "Wanting" kids is wanting to reach the same goal (the state of these non-aging species. As when there are no threats for a specie anymore, eolution starts making it live longer, a lot longer, till a so called "negligible senescence" is reached. Humans doesn't have any natural predators or dangers in their enviroment anymore too.). Westerners, you like to speak about, doesn't want that kind of course anymore, they want to continue living themselves (a genome which doesn't require to be "transferred" anymore, because there's no point as it's self sustainable in the same vessel), and that's what is putting an anti aging science in a high gear currently. It's expected and it may actually be the thing which will save the white race from being overtaken by third worlders some time in the future.
It sounds like a very far dream to most of you, but as someone who's quite deep in that science, I can assure you that a lot more is possible than you assume, and a lot faster than you think. Take it or leave it.
If more people would know this - more funding would go towards aging sciences and less money would be WASTED on "curing cancer" (it's strange, people doesn't laugh when we talk about cures for cancer, but they start ridiculing if the talk turns to the roots of all these horrible disseases of an OLD AGE) and searching for a magic drug to cure Alzhaimers (which is basically less possible than curing aging. Do you get the drift?).
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This ...exactly
and at least where would the immortal live ? on a planet they have already destroyed ?
If you'd know that you may stay here for 50-100 years more (not very long still, compared to the age of universe, eh?) you'd think next time before throwing that empty can of beer somewhere in the nature or a place which is not meant to be collecting trash.
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doesnt being immortal gets old after a while? except if our advanced grandgrandgrandgrandetc kids find a cure to life getting boring/old?
After the nano-bots (which are very close to reality NOW) will start to enhance our brain (once again - this will be happening in your life time, mark my words), the "life experience" will change in many ways too. Who knows, maybe we will be able to see the daily life in unimaginably more colors and tastes than currently. Nothing stands still, don't expect humans be completely the same after everything else will evolve in various ways. We indeed will become a very different kind of animals. Interesting shift of that same old process of evolution, it's quite amazing.
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doesnt being immortal gets old after a while? except if our advanced grandgrandgrandgrandetc kids find a cure to life getting boring/old?
must be...
and getting immortal at, lets say around an age of 80, means sleeping forever with very old women or worse, having no sex
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must be...
and getting immortal at, lets say around an age of 80, means sleeping forever with very old women or worse, having no sex
Common errornous assumption (somewhy). If you'd be able to get immortal at 80, you could be of any age you'd like to be (except becoming a teenager probably. But even that theoretically is kind of "possible", by reprogramming your epigenome/methyl groups, etc.. just a very very difficult process that would be. A lot more difficult than just merely making the regeneration mechanisms work in a young phenotype.).
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I disagree. "Wanting" kids is wanting to reach the same goal (the state of these non-aging species. As when there are no threats for a specie anymore, eolution starts making it live longer, a lot longer, till a so called "negligible senescence" is reached. Humans doesn't have any natural predators or dangers in their enviroment anymore too.). Westerners, you like to speak about, doesn't want that kind of course anymore, they want to continue living themselves (a genome which doesn't require to be "transferred" anymore, because there's no point as it's self sustainable in the same vessel), and that's what is putting an anti aging science in a high gear currently. It's expected and it may actually be the thing which will save the white race from being overtaken by third worlders some time in the future.
It sounds like a very far dream to most of you, but as someone who's quite deep in that science, I can assure you that a lot more is possible than you assume, and a lot faster than you think. Take it or leave it.
If more people would know this - more funding would go towards aging sciences and less money would be wated on "curing cancer" (it's strange, people doesn't laugh when we talk about cures for cancer, but they start ridiculing if the talk turns to the roots of all these horrible disseases of an OLD AGE) and searching for a magic drug to cure Alzhaimers (which is basically less possible than curing aging. Do you get the drift?).
Wrong. Humans have predators in their own specie. We are our own predators. And there are random natural cataclysms. We re just trying to adapt to what's randomly thrown at us wether it comes from our own specie or out of it. There are childfree /anti natalists extremists who think human life is a cancer, and who could make great bio terrorists; their goal in life is paradoxically to find a way to effectively eradicate mankind. They re probably a bigger threat than islamists/muslims. Those who want to live enjoy life at its core, who enjoy playing the game , are wired to do so, will do their best to fight external and internal threats which should keep the specie going on for a while. The meaning of their lives is to keep life going.
There is no other purpose for an animal but to adapt and survive. Being successful at adapting (the culprit being dominant, having better odds of survival than subordinates) produces pleasure,hapiness, failing to do so producing stress and ultimately, leading to death. Stress is just the fear of death.
Whatever meaning you give to your life, it is still as pointless intrinsically as anyone else's.
My point still stands, if you dont have kids, no part of you has a single chance to ever reach that utopian perfect world you re talking about.
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Let's put it this way - I'm completely insane (out of wishful thinking) or my intelligence that was applied to these fields lets me be a kind of a "visionaire" in that regard, because honestly, sometimes I just want to somehow "transfer" the knowledge I have to other people so they could wake up and encourage other people to wake up in this regard. "Waking up" would mean - demanding funds to be transferred to "curing aging" (which is not a dissease by FDA ::) Ok, it isn't, it is a developmental drift, but sn't that what kills all people? Cancer kills some... aging kills everyone.).
A simple example for people who are not familiar with that stuff, to grasp: A chain of stem cells (there are like 5 types of different stem cells. After some years we are left just with few types of them which are "for the rest of our life"). When the pool of these remaining stem cells are starting to get depleted - many symptoms of aging starts to surface. I'm putting this very simple/lay man: it'd be enough to just "resupply" periodically the stem cell types that are lost, some years after birth, the chain would start working again - pools of stem cells that work for regenerating our organs would start working again, just like when we are young. A single, pretty complex, but very effective procedure alone would enable humans to live a lot healthier and longer life.
Now the issue currently is - money. Billions of dollars to "cure Alzhaimers" (which is incurable, because the culprit is... aging) and just hundreds of milliions to deal with aging. That is not right, sorry.
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Jesus, that guy was one of my favorite dude in the WWF.....these guys doesn't age well...I guess the abuses that come with their profession could be the reason....I saw a recent picture of Cid Vicious(formerly Cid Justice) and he looks like a walking Corpse
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Wrong. Humans have predators in their own specie. We are our own predators. And there are random natural cataclysms. We re just trying to adapt to what's randomly thrown at us wether it comes from our own specie or out of it. There are childfree /anti natalists extremists who think human life is a cancer, and who could make great bio terrorists; their goal in life is paradoxically to find a way to effectively eradicate mankind. They re probably a bigger threat than islamists/muslims. Those who want to live enjoy life at its core, who enjoy playing the game , are wired to do so, will do their best to fight external and internal threats which should keep the specie going on for a while. The meaning of their lives is to keep life going.
Well the immortal species of jellyfish or certain species of aligarots or turtles have a lot more to deal still than we humans do. You are wrong about anti-natalists (unless there are some conscious eradication movement, idk). If you speak of westerners, it's simply a sitautation when genome wants to stay alive without transfering to an other vessel (just to try again). Simple as that. I'm speaking from an evolutionary standpoint. There's no sense really to try to eradicate a specie for the specie itself, it MAY look like that, but it's just a different attempt to actually stay alive. And that's what you are saying - life is about LIVING, not about dying, that's what these white people are trying to achieve, just in different way compared to the past. It's the same process that happened to these immortal species, but just happening accelerated, by a conscious technologically induced evolution direction. You will witness this easily in comming 10-20 years when "old people" will live longer and longer, until one day they will actually begin to get younger as they age (lfe expectenacy growth will outpace the all cases mortality curve. Very interesting when you get deeper into that.).
There is no other purpose for an animal but to adapt and survive. Being successful at adapting (the culprit being dominant, having better odds of survival than subordinates) produces pleasure,hapiness, failing to do so producing stress and ultimately, leading to death. Stress is just the fear of death.
Whatever meaning you give to your life, it is still as pointless intrinsically as anyone else's.
WHat if humans start trying to adapt in a new way - by not dying? Isn't it the same what are you trying to tell? Even if it's pointless - do we have a better option? It's ridiculous and doesn't make any sense, but... humans still try to "cure cancer" to make it a little more bearable for these that are still alive.
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My point still stands, if you dont have kids, no part of you has a single chance to ever reach that utopian perfect world you re talking about.
Kids are just a desperate attempt at the process I'm talking about. It's futile (for an individual), your code will get dilluted to nothingness in a few generations.
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I disagree. "Wanting" kids is wanting to reach the same goal (the state of these non-aging species. As when there are no threats for a specie anymore, eolution starts making it live longer, a lot longer, till a so called "negligible senescence" is reached. Humans doesn't have any natural predators or dangers in their enviroment anymore too.). Westerners, you like to speak about, doesn't want that kind of course anymore, they want to continue living themselves (a genome which doesn't require to be "transferred" anymore, because there's no point as it's self sustainable in the same vessel), and that's what is putting an anti aging science in a high gear currently. It's expected and it may actually be the thing which will save the white race from being overtaken by third worlders some time in the future.
It sounds like a very far dream to most of you, but as someone who's quite deep in that science, I can assure you that a lot more is possible than you assume, and a lot faster than you think. Take it or leave it.
If more people would know this - more funding would go towards aging sciences and less money would be WASTED on "curing cancer" (it's strange, people doesn't laugh when we talk about cures for cancer, but they start ridiculing if the talk turns to the roots of all these horrible disseases of an OLD AGE) and searching for a magic drug to cure Alzhaimers (which is basically less possible than curing aging. Do you get the drift?).
what do you mean you're quite deep in that science? you mean you read a few articles, post on anti-aging forums, and browse journals from time to time ???
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what do you mean you're quite deep in that science? you mean you read a few articles, post on anti-aging forums, and browse journals from time to time ???
That means I can discuss the matter quite eloquently.
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oh, i thought someone who said "im quite deep in the science" might be a scientist, perhaps ::)
anyway, enough baiting, i actually like reading your posts
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oh, i thought someone who said "im quite deep in the science" might be a scientist, perhaps
Are you impressed by authority or by truth/arguments/facts?
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Are you impressed by authority or by truth/arguments/facts?
I doubt anyone is impressed by anything you said so far, It sounds more like you sound desperate to give a meaning to what has none with your futuristic mumbo jumbo, just like...people who have kids ;)
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I doubt anyone is impressed by anything you said so far, It sounds more like you sound desperate to give a meaning to what has none with your futuristic mumbo jumbo, just like...people who have kids ;)
yep
da vinci, i don't really care about this subject too much, but you're obviously someone who has a strong desire for truth, who feels a need to be "right"... this is actually a quality of people who are destined to be furthest from the "truth", and one of the reasons why you aren't an actual scientist who lives and breathes this stuff 24/7, but a guy who reads lots of articles and finds a thrill debating online with lay people.
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Speaking of the life in a close future, just a random article of not very extraordinary claims (like teleportation or some other shit): http://www.wfs.org/blogs/thomas-frey/33-dramatic-predictions-for-2030 . Let's say only 30% of that happens by that time. The life will be very very different still. But in truth - there will be lots of stuff we can't even imagine currently.
I used google street view yesterday, by a phone, it was like "Oh yeah, I just need to take a look...", when in fact it is mind blowing how fast and how complex technology have got merely in last 10 years. People just doesn't notice.. it's "normal". It will be "normal" to have micro chips (a size of a red blood cell) floating in our blood, that will be communicating with a "cloud" day and night (I can see conspiracy theorists putting on their foil hats), etc...
A computer that is now in a fastest iPhone will be a size of a BLOOD CELL in about 25 years and it is not a sci-fi at all, do you think it won't change the way people live, behave, think and it wont chance their health?
Well... you are very uninformed then.
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I doubt anyone is impressed by anything you said so far, It sounds more like you sound desperate to give a meaning to what has none with your futuristic mumbo jumbo, just like...people who have kids ;)
I'm simply discussing a more advanced strategy of survival. And whether you are impressed or not, it doesn't really matter. You will by buying (or at the worst case your kids) newest nano drugs and health care therapies 20-30 years from now and probably won't even remember that we had this chat as it will be, well like a smartphone (a brain extension) is now - "normal" (even if it wasn't just 5-8 years ago). You will probably even seek an education on these new therapies as you will want to stay around your family for longer and while being healthier (younger). Human nature. :)
p.s. - it will not add any meaning, that's truth. But once again - do we have a better option? We are just lurking in this universe, doing nothing... why not do something even if it's nothing?
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Jesus, that guy was one of my favorite dude in the WWF.....these guys doesn't age well...I guess the abuses that come with their profession could be the reason....I saw a recent picture of Cid Vicious(formerly Cid Justice) and he looks like a walking Corpse
Not exactly sure when this pic is, but apparently Sid did some bodybuilding.
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yep
da vinci, i don't really care about this subject too much, but you're obviously someone who has a strong desire for truth, who feels a need to be "right"... this is actually a quality of people who are destined to be furthest from the "truth", and one of the reasons why you aren't an actual scientist who lives and breathes this stuff 24/7, but a guy who reads lots of articles and finds a thrill debating online with lay people.
If you don't care about this subject - I don't really have any interest in discussing this matter with you. And what you think is not of my interest either. But thank's for participating.
I guess I'd not get a post like this if I'd be discussing cancer. :) Humans... and their inertion based thought process. Oh well..
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Dude...life sucked, sucks and will keep sucking all the same, sorry to burst your bubble. Life will always be the same as we ll always be the same animals. Power = better odds of survival = hapiness. The most powerful are the happiest. The poorest, unlucky ones will always try to go up and the powerful richest ones will always try to keep the weaker ones down. A never ending circle of animals fighting for resources, mates, power, until something external or internal to our specie makes the whole thing end.
Lol your such a fucking idiot.
It's pretty much a proven fact that some of the most powerful people, are the most stressed, anxious, people ever alive.
At the other extreme some of the laziest stupidest unfuckable people, are perfectly happy watching tyra.
Your entire lining of reasoning relies on having no distinction between reactive emotion and reality.
emotions are shadows or reflections of the real world.
sometimes they have meaning, alot of the time they are just optical illusions.
The neurological path to happiness, is a mix of mental strain and relief(challenge and benefit), mixed with mental and physical stimulation.
This is why the arts crowd will always be leap years ahead of the super utilitarian fitness-conservative types. (Who value beauty and power over all else).
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A glimpse to a relatively close future (but the difference will be on a mollecular level while here is an example of great genes, great luck, great care and great cosmetic procedures. Oh, a HRT too probably, which can count as the first regenerative therapy.), it will be much more common to see this (she's 60) :
(http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/celebrities/christie-brinkley/50th-anniversary-of-the-si-swimsuit-issue-celebration-in-hollywood/Christie-Brinkley:-2014-SI-Swimsuit-Issue-Celebration--02.jpg)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1628546/thumbs/o-CHRISTIE-BRINKLEY-570.jpg)
I'd take her clubbing or somewhere and would be proud, it's ridiculous lol..
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A glimpse to a relatively close future (but the difference will be on a mollecular level while here is an example of great genes, great luck, great care and great cosmetic procedures. Oh, a HRT too probably, which can count as the first regenerative therapy.), it will be much more common to see this (she's 60) :
(http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/celebrities/christie-brinkley/50th-anniversary-of-the-si-swimsuit-issue-celebration-in-hollywood/Christie-Brinkley:-2014-SI-Swimsuit-Issue-Celebration--02.jpg)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1628546/thumbs/o-CHRISTIE-BRINKLEY-570.jpg)
I'd take her clubbing or somewhere and would be proud, it's ridiculous lol..
She's just lucky, and rich. and had a TON of top-flight plastic surgery.
I'm 50 years old, have great skin, thick hair and big white teeth too
I didn't do a damn thing for it but be born to the right parents
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She's just lucky, and rich. and had a TON of top-flight plastic surgery.
I'm 50 years old, have great skin, thick hair and big white teeth too
I didn't do a damn thing for it but be born to the right parents
I'd take you to a club too.
no hom0
On a serious note - it's way harder to look young for a female, she's really a very impressive example of top notch cosmetic procedures, etc... It will be cool IF more females will stay younger for longer in a future..
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She's just lucky, and rich. and had a TON of top-flight plastic surgery.
I'm 50 years old, have great skin, thick hair and big white teeth too
I didn't do a damn thing for it but be born to the right parents
she's nowt compared to you
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Public health care? We speak money here, not a widespread medicine for every poor tax payer. Some people said we are never gonna fly, we are never gonna land on a moon, etc... nothing new. Extraordinary shift of a paradigm usualy is usualy extraoradinary opposed too. I'm merely encouraging the society to be more conscious of this regard, as the funding of billions of dollars that go to cancer research, should be redirected to aging (as cancer ant most other serious disseases are a direct manifestation of aging. Thus - any research on alzhaimers for ex. is pretty futile, it does not solve anything). I'm afraid of these horrible ilnesses like Alzhaimer, which to me equals the thing you call "aging".
Aging will be solved by about 2035-45, according by someone like R.Kurzweil. Mya be true, may be not, the fact is - life and health care will be very very different after 30 years from now on. Life was very different merely 10 years ago, and the technological change is exponential, not linear, the next 10 years will bring even more changes, and so on, at an increasing magnitude.
I agree with Da Vinci , I think we should put as much money into anti-aging research as we can , so a few rich people (the only ones who can afford it) can live a little bit longer , Da Vinci go fuck yourself .
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A glimpse to a relatively close future (but the difference will be on a mollecular level while here is an example of great genes, great luck, great care and great cosmetic procedures. Oh, a HRT too probably, which can count as the first regenerative therapy.), it will be much more common to see this (she's 60) :
(http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/celebrities/christie-brinkley/50th-anniversary-of-the-si-swimsuit-issue-celebration-in-hollywood/Christie-Brinkley:-2014-SI-Swimsuit-Issue-Celebration--02.jpg)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1628546/thumbs/o-CHRISTIE-BRINKLEY-570.jpg)
I'd take her clubbing or somewhere and would be proud, it's ridiculous lol..
Beautiful lady and what a pair of legs :o
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I agree with Da Vinci , I think we should put as much money into anti-aging research as we can , so a few rich people (the only ones who can afford it) can live a little bit longer , Da Vinci go fuck yourself .
Another emotional reaction. It's always like that, doesn't matter what what the field, as long as idea is cardinally opposing the status quo. The thing is - for a technology to take off and be profitable - it must be available to masses... Just like plastic surgery if we speak strictly health care.
Btw - do you think curing cancer would be good?
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Jesus, that guy was one of my favorite dude in the WWF.....these guys doesn't age well...I guess the abuses that come with their profession could be the reason....I saw a recent picture of Cid Vicious(formerly Cid Justice) and he looks like a walking Corpse
he was a known drug addict/acloholic.... theres interviews of him where he can barely talk...yes he had my favorite personalities when i used to watch wrestling... warrior and him were my favs
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A glimpse to a relatively close future (but the difference will be on a mollecular level while here is an example of great genes, great luck, great care and great cosmetic procedures. Oh, a HRT too probably, which can count as the first regenerative therapy.), it will be much more common to see this (she's 60) :
(http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/celebrities/christie-brinkley/50th-anniversary-of-the-si-swimsuit-issue-celebration-in-hollywood/Christie-Brinkley:-2014-SI-Swimsuit-Issue-Celebration--02.jpg)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1628546/thumbs/o-CHRISTIE-BRINKLEY-570.jpg)
I'd take her clubbing or somewhere and would be proud, it's ridiculous lol..
amazing those genes went nowhere into alexa ray joel ,,none,,her kids with peter cook blonde/blue eyed genes man,,,
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what do you mean you're quite deep in that science? you mean you read a few articles, post on anti-aging forums, and browse journals from time to time ???
I have read a ton on the subject from Kurzweil to Aubrey de Grey and others but they don`t realize how delusional they really are. As I said, we can`t even deal with the here and now and we are supposed to believe in 20-30 years "aging" will be cured or slowed down? Total horseshit. Reality is a harsh mistress.
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I have read a ton on the subject from Kurzweil to Aubrey de Grey and others but they don`t realize how delusional they really are. As I said, we can`t even deal with the here and now and we are supposed to believe in 20-30 years "aging" will be cured or slowed down? Total horseshit. Reality is a harsh mistress.
Yeah I'm sure you have way better insights on these matters compared to them. Not to mention that you probably have red various scientific studies and got to know the intricacies of this field, not just media articles about Ray or De Grey. ::) So pls shtfu for once.
Btw - your health care argument is invalid too as postponing aging merely by 5 years (!) would save billions and billions on health care. That's why it doesn't even matter whether these guys are right or wrong, what matters is their message - "Wake the fuck up and take action, because there are all the tools for it.". Tho' idiots like you, but who work in a health care sector, doesn't see further than their nose too, that's why it will take a longer time to come true.
Btw - maybe you'd like to say that science should stop the war on cancer/etc just because there are other issues in health care?
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Yeah I'm sure you have way better insights on these matters compared to them. Not to mention that you probably have red various scientific studies and got to know the intricacies of this field (I'm quite sure I know a lot more than you do, over about 8 years on studying that). So pls shtfu for once.
Btw - your health care argument is invalid too as postponing aging merely by 5 years (!) wouls save billions and billions on health care. That's why it doesn't even matter whether these guys are right or wrong, what matters is their message - "Wake the fuck up and take action, because there are all the tools for it.". Tho' idiots like you, who work in health care sector, doesn't see further than their nose too, that's why it will take a longer time to come true.
Btw - maybe you'd like to say that science should stop the war on cancer/etc just because there are other issues in health care?
You don`t. I had my genome sequenced as part of the PGP I signed up for in 2006 that deals strictly with aging and other issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Genome_Project
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You don`t. I had my genome sequenced as part of the PGP I signed up for in 2006 that deals strictly with aging and other issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Genome_Project
Yeah right. What have you found out of that information? What kind of interpretation they offered at that time? (there are very specific ones that were available at that time and some that are available now). Participating for genome sequencing merely just to participate doesn't mean shit.
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Yeah right. What have you found out of that information? What kind of interpretation they offered at that time? (there are very specific ones that were available at that time and some that are available now). Participating for genome sequencing merely just to participate doesn't mean shit.
I have found that the real advances and realistic to anti-aging will be isotopes added to food and other food additives.
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Yeah right. What have you found out of that information? What kind of interpretation they offered at that time? (there are very specific ones that were available at that time and some that are available now). Participating for genome sequencing merely just to participate doesn't mean shit.
Here you go dickbrain. There is a lot more on this matter and its not as outlandish as the bullshit you are subscribed to.
http://ariannelot.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/mikhail-shchepinov-could-a-glass-of-heavy-water-lengthen-our-lives/
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Another study of his. Mikhail S. Shchepinov
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/rej.2006.0506
Reactive Oxygen Species, Isotope Effect, Essential Nutrients, and Enhanced Longevity
Ingestion of isotopically reinforced building blocks such as amino acids, lipids and components of nucleic acids and their subsequent incorporation into macromolecules would make these more stable to ROS courtesy of an isotope effect. The implications may include enhanced longevity and increased resistance to cancer and age-related diseases.
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I have found that the real advances and realistic to anti-aging will be isotopes added to food and other food additives.
Just how I thought - you're full of bs.
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A glimpse to a relatively close future (but the difference will be on a mollecular level while here is an example of great genes, great luck, great care and great cosmetic procedures. Oh, a HRT too probably, which can count as the first regenerative therapy.), it will be much more common to see this (she's 60) :
(http://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/celebrities/christie-brinkley/50th-anniversary-of-the-si-swimsuit-issue-celebration-in-hollywood/Christie-Brinkley:-2014-SI-Swimsuit-Issue-Celebration--02.jpg)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1628546/thumbs/o-CHRISTIE-BRINKLEY-570.jpg)
I'd take her clubbing or somewhere and would be proud, it's ridiculous lol..
wow still a smokeshow. good for her.
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Just how I thought - you're full of bs.
And you have proven yourself that you know little about anti-aging science.
Just as I thought.
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.20681/abstract
Do “heavy” eaters live longer?
Abstract
A new hypothesis is put forward, linking cellular endurance with dietary consumption of stable heavy isotopes. Due to the isotope effect, biomolecules that incorporate heavier isotopes give rise to more stable molecular structures with increased resistance to damages associated with aging and age-related disease. The inclusion of heavy isotopes might be either active (selection for heavier isotopes) or passive (incorporation reflecting the existing abundance). The hypothesis links consumption of foods relatively rich in heavy isotopes (such as 13C and D, derived from C4-plants), especially at the early stages of the organism's development, with enhanced longevity. Implications of diets and intestinal microflora are also discussed. BioEssays 29:1247–1256, 2007. © 2007 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.
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Here you go dickbrain. There is a lot more on this matter and its not as outlandish as the bullshit you are subscribed to.
http://ariannelot.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/mikhail-shchepinov-could-a-glass-of-heavy-water-lengthen-our-lives/
Lol.. geez... you better not go this way as you already show that you are completely clueless.
I've stopped reading after "”. Dr Shchepinov’s theory is based on deuterium, a naturally-occurring isotope, or form of hydrogen, that strengthens the bonds in between and around the body’s cells, making them less vulnerable to attack ".
- there's (almost) no benefit of having antionxidants BETWEEN and AROUND the cells as the main and most sensitive part of cells that is attacked and damaged most (and is most important to a whole cell cycle and it's longevity) is mitochondria. There are some experimental antioxidants that bring free electrons right to the nucleus of a cell, but still at an experimental phase and it's not the answer for all the questions.
Building a good protection for mitochondria would probably make a 60 yo to a 40yo tho' in some regards, but drinking "heay water"is a snake oil bullshit.
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And you have proven yourself that you know little about anti-aging science.
Just as I thought.
You have no idea of how much I know. I can discuss with real scientists of biochemistry/mollecular biology at quite a decent level and you show me this bullshit? Bitch please..
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Lol.. geez... you better not go this way as you already show that you are completely clueless.
I've stopped reading after "”. Dr Shchepinov’s theory is based on deuterium, a naturally-occurring isotope, or form of hydrogen, that strengthens the bonds in between and around the body’s cells, making them less vulnerable to attack ".
- there's (almost) no benefit of having antionxidants BETWEEN and AROUND the cells as the main and most sensitive part of cells that is attacked and damaged most (and is most important to a whole cell cycle and it's longevity) is mitochondria. There are some experimental antioxidants that bring free ions right to the nucleus of a cell, but still at an experimental phase and it's not the answer for all the questions.
Building a good protection for mitochondria would probably make a 60 yo to a 40yo tho' in some regards, but drinking "heay water"is a snake oil bullshit.
Yes, you know more than Dr. Shchepinov. ::) Fucking moron.
https://www.michaeljfox.org/foundation/researchers.php?id=920
Mikhail Shchepinov, PhD
Co-Founding Chief Scientific Officer at Retrotope, Inc.
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Since 2006, Dr. Mikhail S. Shchepinov has been the co-founding Chief Scientific Officer of Retrotope, Inc., and is Principal Investigator on this Retrotope Rapid Response Award. Born in Moscow, USSR, Dr. Shchepinov received his MS in chemistry and biotechnology from the Mendeleev Institute of Chemical Technology, Moscow, and a PhD in bioorganic chemistry from the Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, Moscow, in 1994. He completed postdoctoral research in the Department of Biochemistry, University of Oxford, UK, from 1995‰ÛÒ2000, focusing on the areas of DNA chip technology, combinatorial chemistry, fluorescence, dendrimers, and surface chemistry. From 2000 to 2001, Dr. Shchepinov was a scientist at Sequenom, Inc; San Diego, CA working on methods of high throughput DNA analysis, DNA chemistry, genomics, surface chemistry, and mass-spectrometry. Thereafter, he was director of chemistry at HK Pharmaceuticals, Inc; San Diego, CA., working on mass spectrometry analysis in proteomics, protein chemistry, and protein/peptide/antibody arrays. He then returned to the UK to become director of Tridend Technologies, (a spin-off from Oxford University, UK) from 2002 to 2006, working further in genomics, proteomics, mass-tags, and mass-spectrometry analysis of biochemical markers of oxidative stress. At Retrotope (www.retrotope.com); Dr. Shchepinov has focused on the use of stabilizing isotopes as a fortification of essential nutrients to protect against diseases of aging and age-related oxidative stress
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.20681/abstract
Do “heavy” eaters live longer?
Abstract
A new hypothesis is put forward, linking cellular endurance with dietary consumption of stable heavy isotopes. Due to the isotope effect, biomolecules that incorporate heavier isotopes give rise to more stable molecular structures with increased resistance to damages associated with aging and age-related disease. The inclusion of heavy isotopes might be either active (selection for heavier isotopes) or passive (incorporation reflecting the existing abundance). The hypothesis links consumption of foods relatively rich in heavy isotopes (such as 13C and D, derived from C4-plants), especially at the early stages of the organism's development, with enhanced longevity. Implications of diets and intestinal microflora are also discussed. BioEssays 29:1247–1256, 2007. © 2007 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.
These isotopes can't pass the barriers to get to the mitochondrial DNA (which is a SEPAATE DNA from our "regular" one). end of discussion on this regard.
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These isotopes can't pass the barriers to get to the mitochondrial DNA (which is a SEPAATE DNA from our "regular" one). end of discussion on this regard.
You can`t even spell correctly.
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These isotopes can't pass the barriers to get to the mitochondrial DNA (which is a SEPAATE DNA from our "regular" one). end of discussion on this regard.
Whats this? Aubrey de Grey thinks its a good idea:
Dr de Grey, a 'bio-gerontologist' who leads the Methuselah Foundation, a charity which aims for 'the defeat of age-related disease and the indefinite extension of the healthy human lifespan', said the research was 'extremely promising'.
He said deuterium existed in all living matter at a certain level and it was a case of introducing it in a 'more targeted manner'. There was no radiation involved, he added.
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You can`t even spell correctly.
I can, when I have to, for an official occassion, but I don't strive to when I have not (as En is not my native lang.).
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070326095742.htm
Meat And Two Neutrons: The Key To A Longer Life
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Society of Chemical Industry
Summary:
Eating meat enhanced with isotopes could add as much as 10 years to your life. Scientists have shown for the first time that food enriched with natural isotopes builds bodily components that are more resistant to the processes of aging. The concept has been demonstrated in worms and researchers hope that the same concept can help extend human life and reduce the risk of cancer and other diseases of ageing.
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Indulging in an isotope-enhanced steak or chicken fillet every now and again could add as much as 10 years to your life. Scientists have shown for the first time that food enriched with natural isotopes builds bodily components that are more resistant to the processes of ageing. The concept has been demonstrated in worms and researchers hope that the same concept can help extend human life and reduce the risk of cancer and other diseases of ageing, reports Marina Murphy in Chemistry & Industry, the magazine of the SCI.
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A team led by Mikhail Shchepinov, formerly of Oxford University, fed nematode worms nutrients reinforced with natural isotopes (naturally occurring atomic variations of elements). In initial experiments, worms' life spans were extended by 10%, which, with humans expected to routinely coast close to the centenary, could add a further 10 years to human life.
Food enhanced with isotopes is thought to produce bodily constituents and DNA more resistant to detrimental processes, like free radical attack. The isotopes replace atoms in susceptible bonds making these bonds stronger. 'Because these bonds are so much more stable, it should be possible to slow down the process of oxidation and ageing,' Shchepinov says.
The isotopes could be used in animal feed so that humans could get the "age-defying" isotopes indirectly in steaks or chicken fillets, for example, rather than eating chemically enhanced products themselves. Shchepinov says an occasional top-up would be sufficient to have a beneficial effect.
Ageing experts are impressed with the isotopic approach. Aubrey de Grey, the Cambridge-based gerontologist, says it could be very relevant to the rates of several chemical and enzymatic processes relevant to ageing 'It is a highly novel idea,' he says. 'But it remains to be seen whether it can be the source of practicable therapies, but it is a prospect that certainly cannot be ruled out.'
Charles Cantor, a professor of biomechanical engineering at Boston University, said: 'Preliminary data indicates that this approach can potentially increase lifespan without adverse side effects. If this is borne out by further experiments the implications are profound.'
Isotopes could also be used in pet food or as a means to protect workers or soldiers from radiation. Deuterium, a natural isotope of hydrogen (with 2 protons rather than one) could be used routinely.
Previous successes in extending lifespan have involved withdrawing food to the point of near starvation, a process called caloric restriction.
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Whats this? Aubrey de Grey thinks its a good idea:
Dr de Grey, a 'bio-gerontologist' who leads the Methuselah Foundation, a charity which aims for 'the defeat of age-related disease and the indefinite extension of the healthy human lifespan', said the research was 'extremely promising'.
He said deuterium existed in all living matter at a certain level and it was a case of introducing it in a 'more targeted manner'. There was no radiation involved, he added.
He probably meant "If it would be prepared so the mitochondria would be reached" or smth like that. Isotopes or anything else - good, as long as they wouls accomplish the ttask. And Aubrey would support any efforts on doing that.
The point is - you started by your participation in a genome project, like it's a base for your knowledge, and later on started posting dailymail articles, wtf?
You have no idea what are you talking about, and if you try to ridicule Aubrey or Ray, be at least somewhat educated on a matter (but you would not in that case, as you'd start to understand just HOW feasible it is with the right money and effort).
BTW - results of isotopes are very poor even by worms and fruit flies standarts (on a mammals it would probably not make any difference. And you can bet I'd like to be different.). But that's not the point in this case.
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BTW - I will search for more info on isotopes. If it's possible (but somewhy I suspect it is not) to safely add these to ones diet - why not.
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Goes back to as far as http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/food-atoms-could-lengthen-lives-986063 (for this science it's quite long as the information pace about new findings is moving at a speed of light) 2007. They probably have figured out later on that it's not the intracellular enviroment that needs the antioxidants the most to have any serious impact.
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To put it simply - if you'd manage the way to put these antioxidants right into your cell nucleus - you'd experience some serious regeneration effects. And there ARE some experimental stuff currenty, some of that people are even trying as we speak. Time will show.
Stem cell replacement interests me more as that's a lot more serious regeneration potential in a long term. You can basically take a 70yo and "turn" him to a 40yo (or even 20yo) just by the help of that. Well, theoretically.
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He probably meant "If it would be prepared so the mitochondria would be reached" or smth like that. Isotopes or anything else - good, as long as they wouls accomplish the ttask. And Aubrey would support any efforts on doing that.
The point is - you started by your participation in a genome project, like it's a base for your knowledge, and later on started posting dailymail articles, wtf?
You have no idea what are you talking about, and if you try to ridicule Aubrey or Ray, be at least somewhat educated on a matter (but you would not in that case, as you'd start to understand just HOW feasible it is with the right money and effort).
BTW - results of isotopes are very poor even by worms and fruit flies standarts (on a mammals it would probably not make any difference. And you can bet I'd like to be different.). But that's not the point in this case.
Ridicule de Grey? I support everything he does and is trying to do.
I would rather ridicule you who thinks that it would be a certainty that aging will be cured in 20-30 years and will be accessible on a large scale when the reality is we can`t even get citizens basic health care.
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Goes back to as far as http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/food-atoms-could-lengthen-lives-986063 (for this science it's quite long as the information pace about new findings is moving at a speed of light) 2007. They probably have figured out later on that it's not the intracellular enviroment that needs the antioxidants the most to have any serious impact.
Moore`s law does not always apply to clinical trials.
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Ridicule de Grey? I support everything he does and is trying to do.
I would rather ridicule you who thinks that it would be a certainty that aging will be cured in 20-30 years and will be accessible on a large scale when the reality is we can`t even get citizens basic health care.
Well thats the issue - the paradigm must change so we could start SAVING money instead of wasting it on trying to "cure cancer". That's my main motivation to even discuss this matter on a board like this. My wish (as of these scientists too) is that more (even general) public would know about a real prospect of bringing a lot more quality to their miserable existence.
Moore`s law does not always apply to clinical trials.
But ot does to informational technologies and bio sciences are becoming informational technology science too. Recently they managed to find some kind of a mollecule for some kind of a job to do (can't remember) by trying it's virtual models in hundreds of millions of combinations (like that project of protein folding game). It took a few months to find many matches, while it would have took a thousand years just 10-20 years ago (or something along the lines). The magnitude of speeding up is HUUUGE, just most people are not aware of this. There's no way to keep up with the latest research already, not for an individual, not for a group of individuals. Thats where the AI (even if somewhat "primitive" ) is slowly, but surely comming to help (IBMs Watson for ex.).
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(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_jYOaTYOMDY/hqdefault.jpg)
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None of this shit matters if you can't stop oxidation inside the mitochondria which is now possible.
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x2. The world is 99% insufferable and then you lose the remaining 1%. This passing of time business is for the birds.
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To put it simply - if you'd manage the way to put these antioxidants right into your cell nucleus - you'd experience some serious regeneration effects. And there ARE some experimental stuff currenty, some of that people are even trying as we speak. Time will show.
Stem cell replacement interests me more as that's a lot more serious regeneration potential in a long term. You can basically take a 70yo and "turn" him to a 40yo (or even 20yo) just by the help of that. Well, theoretically.
Lovely, then u can hook up on older ladies 50-60 when their brain have become normal and u can talk to them rasily. Give the pill and then u got a bombastic 25 year old look! Fantastic! No comdome no pullout! Lovely!
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-04/scientists-reverse-ageing-process-in-mice/5865714
How about this?
These of you who ridicule me today will shut the fuck up 20-30 years down the road, mark my words.
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Lovely, then u can hook up on older ladies 50-60 when their brain have become normal and u can talk to them rasily. Give the pill and then u got a bombastic 25 year old look! Fantastic! No comdome no pullout! Lovely!
Lol...hold your horses, they will become fertile once again.
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Getting old and having nothing to show for it is what REALLY sucks.
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Getting old and having nothing to show for it is what REALLY sucks.
yes i agree, ive lost alot of things in my life but most of it was due to me trying to help everyone out and i ended up with nothing. last yr i gave away 3 giant bags of sweat clothes to homeless people and last night im screaming cause i cant find nothing to wear for the winter. i been doing that all my life and granted i do own my own home and have a car thats paid off, other than that im trying my best to make it in life
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Booze and cigarettes age you faster than anything else.
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DO U FANCY ANY LIQUOR?
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To put it simply - if you'd manage the way to put these antioxidants right into your cell nucleus - you'd experience some serious regeneration effects. And there ARE some experimental stuff currenty, some of that people are even trying as we speak. Time will show.
Stem cell replacement interests me more as that's a lot more serious regeneration potential in a long term. You can basically take a 70yo and "turn" him to a 40yo (or even 20yo) just by the help of that. Well, theoretically.
This is the believed method of action of C60oo, the compound Baati used to make rats live significantly longer. Many users at Longecity are taking it and report amazing anti-aging results.
Basically, mixing c-10 in oild makes it able to penetrate the cell and scavenge ROS right at the mitochondria.
Maybe it is just snake oil, who knows, but the experiment is being replicated.
Enough evidence to make me a beliver: not yet but still I think we are on to something.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0142961212003237
http://www.longecity.org/forum/forum/415-c60health/
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This is the believed method of action of C60oo, the compound Baati used to make rats live significantly longer. Many users at Longecity are taking it and report amazing anti-aging results.
Basically, mixing c-10 in oild makes it able to penetrate the cell and scavenge ROS right at the mitochondria.
Maybe it is just snake oil, who knows, but the experiment is being replicated.
Enough evidence to make me a beliver: not yet but still I think we are on to something.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0142961212003237
http://www.longecity.org/forum/forum/415-c60health/
I know all this, but thanks!
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Booze and cigarettes age you faster than anything else.
???
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7360761/100-year-old-woman-says-drink-and-cigarettes-keep-her-young.html
100-year-old woman says drink and cigarettes keep her young
A woman who toasted her 100th birthday today with a cigarette and a tot of whisky said she would also be raising a glass to 70 years as a committed smoker and drinker.
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Booze and cigarettes age you faster than anything else.
???
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/11/12/100-Year-Old-Woman-Has-Smoked-Nearly-Half-a-Million-Cigarettes
(http://s21.postimg.org/dek68pm93/Smoking_Grandmajpg.jpg)
At age 16, Dorothy Howe took her first drag of a cigarette. 84 years and roughly 460,000 cigarettes later, the former secretary credits her longevity to all that smoking and a little bit of whisky.
"I put my health down to whisky and cigarettes. I only drink when I’m out but my doctor said I wouldn't be alive without them," she said.
According to the Daily Mail, Dorothy's brand of choice is Superking Black and her daily habit of about 15 cigarettes has probably cost her about £193,000 at today’s prices.
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Booze and cigarettes age you faster than anything else.
???
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-05/21/content_877131.htm
Bad habits key to man's longevity
(China Daily)
Updated: 2007-05-21 14:52
Zhang Shuqing, a centenarian in Pixian, Sichuan, has his own secret for long life - smoking every day and drinking liquor after every meal.
Zhang, whose daughter died eight years ago, turned 100 on May 7. He lives with his nephew Zhang Chenggui.
Zhang senior said he started smoking and drinking strong liquor when he was in his early 20s. Since then, he has smoked every day and taken a drink with every meal.
According to his grandson Xu, Zhang has consumed 15 tons of liquor and more than a ton of tobacco in his lifetime.
Zhang, who is in good health, has a huge appetite, with a standard meal comprising two chicken legs, a bowl of steamed pork fat and glutinous rice, vegetables and fruit. And he eats the lot in less than 20 minutes.
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Booze and cigarettes age you faster than anything else.
???
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/05/02/this-122-year-old-woman-has-the-most-important-secret-to-a-life-of-longevity/
The oldest documented person that ever lived was a French woman named Jeanne Calment who made it to 122 years, 164 days on this earth. What was her secret? According to French researcher Jean-Marie Robine, “She never did anything special to stay in good health.”
Jeanne Calment smoked cigarettes (started at age 21), drank port wine and ate a couple of pounds of chocolate sweets a week until she was 119 years old.
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Booze and cigarettes age you faster than anything else.
???
Buster Martin, the marathon-running, beer-drinking, chain-smoking, 104-year-old employee of Pimlico Plumbers.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/BusterMartin1.jpg)
(http://media.sdreader.com/img/blogs/entry_img/2011/Jun/03/buster_1_t620.jpg?fbf2daa044e08a86b24c9c38cd7501865a0e2373)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fNFRsCjPiFQ/UlgdQr2RwBI/AAAAAAABhIg/2vR0TgRHl88/s1600/buster_martin_03.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Sa7-BIXXdvA/TahsnakJBeI/AAAAAAAAXGk/BBITcAtL20k/s400/Buster%2BMartin.jpg)
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???
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/05/02/this-122-year-old-woman-has-the-most-important-secret-to-a-life-of-longevity/
The oldest documented person that ever lived was a French woman named Jeanne Calment who made it to 122 years, 164 days on this earth. What was her secret? According to French researcher Jean-Marie Robine, “She never did anything special to stay in good health.”
Jeanne Calment smoked cigarettes (started at age 21), drank port wine and ate a couple of pounds of chocolate sweets a week until she was 119 years old.
as in aging the skin. just like to much sun. it's hardly anything new, as you know full well :)
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???
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/11/12/100-Year-Old-Woman-Has-Smoked-Nearly-Half-a-Million-Cigarettes
(http://s21.postimg.org/dek68pm93/Smoking_Grandmajpg.jpg)At age 16, Dorothy Howe took her first drag of a cigarette. 84 years and roughly 460,000 cigarettes later, the former secretary credits her longevity to all that smoking and a little bit of whisky.
"I put my health down to whisky and cigarettes. I only drink when I’m out but my doctor said I wouldn't be alive without them," she said.
Clearly, there is no other explanation as to her longevity, and this is an absolutely accurate representation of the general population. Keep up the good work, "Dr. Adonis."
I look very forward to future addendums to your "principles."
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(http://www.pwmania.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/paul-orndorff.jpg)
(http://www.ringsidenews.com/file/pic/article/2014/04/7eb219cd92cf4064be5aed6ec02c7a1e.jpg)
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Same here, some guys I used to know at school look like old men.
Booze and cigarettes , thats what fucks people up.
Granted I'm only 30 but I drink, smoke and did God knows what else and look younger than 90% of my old classmates cos I eat well and train. I also have a high tolerance for stress which is a big thing. If you want proof of what I mean, look at Blair or Obama before and after office - that is what stress does to age you. Bush looked the same in 01 and 08, I heard he went to bed at 9pm on Sept 11th as it was his routine.
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Granted I'm only 30 but I drink, smoke and did God knows what else and look younger than 90% of my old classmates cos I eat well and train. I also have a high tolerance for stress which is a big thing. If you want proof of what I mean, look at Blair or Obama before and after office - that is what stress does to age you. Bush looked the same in 01 and 08, I heard he went to bed at 9pm on Sept 11th as it was his routine.
???
Obama looks the same. 2014.
(http://vovworld.vn/Uploaded/camthi/2014_01_12/Obama.jpg)
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Getting old does suck, but those WWF wrestlers inflict so much damage on their bodies with their acrobatics that it's surprising to see them last as long as they do.
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With the drugs (pain killers, PEDS), travelling, and the actual performance; I think that professional wrestling is the most unhealthiest "sport" in the world and takes the most toll on you body.
People here think that bbing is the most unhealthiest. Pro wrestlers do everything bbers do plus a whole lot more. Just the travelling and the falls is enough to break a normal human being.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2824218/The-tragic-downfall-80-s-heartthrob-Jan-Michael-Vincent-Recovering-alcoholic-admits-s-lucky-alive-right-leg-amputated.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2824218/The-tragic-downfall-80-s-heartthrob-Jan-Michael-Vincent-Recovering-alcoholic-admits-s-lucky-alive-right-leg-amputated.html
Uh, he actually looks good for 70 years old.
(http://www.weht.net/_Depo/Photos/Now/4F30E64B-90BF-486C-9627-52654AE78040.jpg)
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Uh, he actually looks good for 70 years old.
(http://www.weht.net/_Depo/Photos/Now/4F30E64B-90BF-486C-9627-52654AE78040.jpg)
But he's looked like that for decades. Guess now we can twist it positively, though, at 70.
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But he's looked like that for decades. Guess now we can twist it positively, though, at 70.
Most 70 year olds do not look near that good.
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???
Buster Martin, the marathon-running, beer-drinking, chain-smoking, 104-year-old employee of Pimlico Plumbers.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/BusterMartin1.jpg)
(http://media.sdreader.com/img/blogs/entry_img/2011/Jun/03/buster_1_t620.jpg?fbf2daa044e08a86b24c9c38cd7501865a0e2373)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fNFRsCjPiFQ/UlgdQr2RwBI/AAAAAAABhIg/2vR0TgRHl88/s1600/buster_martin_03.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Sa7-BIXXdvA/TahsnakJBeI/AAAAAAAAXGk/BBITcAtL20k/s400/Buster%2BMartin.jpg)
Ok, so he's doing ok at 104, hmmm, after he hits 110, that drinking and smoking will finally catch up with him . :D
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Same here, some guys I used to know at school look like old men.
Booze and cigarettes , thats what fucks people up.
Z
Same here man. Only one of my boys from high school that I know has kept working out some 20yrs since. Fuck I feel old saying that. I'm back in the gym and trying to be in as good shape as I can be at my age. But nowadays is far easier because fags are all over the place. Skinny jeans and all that shit. My legs are fucking small and I can't wear my jeans after doing legs.
I'm in better shape than most kids half my age. Not cardio wise but let's those young fags stand next to me at the pool...
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Most 70 year olds do not look near that good.
Can't disagree, but I more enjoy these even older folks above, the smokers and drinkers, still kicking, still doing their thing. Superhuman organs.
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Ok, so he's doing ok at 104, hmmm, after he hits 110, that drinking and smoking will finally catch up with him . :D
Yes, but to have that much fun I'd say it's worth it. Dude looks super happy!
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Thanks to TA for his insightful posts and links to long living smoker/drinkers.
Im sure I cant find any stats that show the amount of people who have died through smoking and drinking at an early age to counter those links.
In fact I have just bought 200 cigarettes and a bottle of vodka to ensure I look great right up until my 110th birthday
Thanks TA.
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Thanks to TA for his insightful posts and links to long living smoker/drinkers.
Im sure I cant find any stats that show the amount of people who have died through smoking and drinking at an early age to counter those links.
In fact I have just bought 200 cigarettes and a bottle of vodka to ensure I look great right up until my 110th birthday
Thanks TA.
:D
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Adonis' posts are highlighting the point that a long life is mainly determined by one's genes. I recently went back to my old town and saw some of my old classmates, good god, they looked like shit. I put this down to them not exercising and having shitty diets. That said, they may outlive me, but death is preferable to looking like shit.
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Adonis' posts are highlighting the point that a long life is mainly determined by one's genes. I recently went back to my old town and saw some of my old classmates, good god, they looked like shit. I put this down to them not exercising and having shitty diets. That said, they may outlive me, but death is preferable to looking like shit.
i believe in the genes theory myself,my uncle and everyone on my moms side of family looks young as anything,amazingly young.hopefully i get some of those genes.my das side looks pretty young also,i got a decent chance i think,i hope anyway :D
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i believe in the genes theory myself,my uncle and everyone on my moms side of family looks young as anything,amazingly young.hopefully i get some of those genes.my das side looks pretty young also,i got a decent chance i think,i hope anyway :D
Not if you keep taking Whitewidows advice.
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Uh, he actually looks good for 70 years old.
(http://www.weht.net/_Depo/Photos/Now/4F30E64B-90BF-486C-9627-52654AE78040.jpg)
Uh ... maybe if he shaved, got a hair cut ... and grew his leg back.
He looks like a friggin bum!
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Here is another:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2830888/The-oldest-living-veteran-smokes-drinks-whiskey-day-drives-does-yard-work-s-108-YEARS-OLD.html
The oldest living US veteran, age 108, credits drinking whiskey and smoking a dozen cigars every day for his long life
Richard Overton served in the South Pacific during World War II from 1942 to 1945
He turned 108 this year
Overton lives in the same house he built in Austin, Texas, after returning from war
He likes to stay active and doesn't walk with a cane
He credits cigars, whiskey and 'staying out of trouble' for living so long
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2830888/The-oldest-living-veteran-smokes-drinks-whiskey-day-drives-does-yard-work-s-108-YEARS-OLD.html#ixzz3Ipsu6avt
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''Getting old really sucks ''
Robert Conrad
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26100000/Robert-Conrad-as-Jim-West-wild-wild-west-26142348-637-800.jpg)
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Robert+Conrad+Young+Restless+Celebrates+40+bEn_inSYSENl.jpg)
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Here is another:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2830888/The-oldest-living-veteran-smokes-drinks-whiskey-day-drives-does-yard-work-s-108-YEARS-OLD.html
The oldest living US veteran, age 108, credits drinking whiskey and smoking a dozen cigars every day for his long life
Richard Overton served in the South Pacific during World War II from 1942 to 1945
He turned 108 this year
Overton lives in the same house he built in Austin, Texas, after returning from war
He likes to stay active and doesn't walk with a cane
He credits cigars, whiskey and 'staying out of trouble' for living so long
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2830888/The-oldest-living-veteran-smokes-drinks-whiskey-day-drives-does-yard-work-s-108-YEARS-OLD.html#ixzz3Ipsu6avt
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All hereditary. Gotta be, no?
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''Getting old really sucks ''
Robert Conrad
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26100000/Robert-Conrad-as-Jim-West-wild-wild-west-26142348-637-800.jpg)
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Robert+Conrad+Young+Restless+Celebrates+40+bEn_inSYSENl.jpg)
Robert Conrad was born in 1935. He's almost 80 years old.
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Simple Simon/UKJeff is a person with a tremendous need to engage others in an argumentative fashion. It doesn't matter the subject, he will at first passively, then aggressively, try to argue and ridicule. No doubt his childhood family life must have been a nightmare. A shrink would have a field day with this guy.
That a wrestler getting old would upset you is equally intriguing from a shrink/childhood perspective.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2824218/The-tragic-downfall-80-s-heartthrob-Jan-Michael-Vincent-Recovering-alcoholic-admits-s-lucky-alive-right-leg-amputated.html
'Big Wednesday' the best surfing movie ever, he was trained by Gironda for his role.
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It sucks! >:(
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It sucks! >:(
holy shit man ole kirk looks fucking horribe ??? he was one of my favorite actors,he was great in showdown at the OK corral with burt lancaster.he was doc holiday and lancaster was wyatt.i love those old movies from back then,they just dont make them that anymore imo
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He is 98 though !
Lived a long life for sure ;D
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holy shit man ole kirk looks fucking horribe ??? he was one of my favorite actors,he was great in showdown at the OK corral with burt lancaster.he was doc holiday and lancaster was wyatt.i love those old movies from back then,they just dont make them that anymore imo
Word is he beat up and raped Natalie Wood in a hotel room back in the day. He still draws water in Hollywood, but this'll probably be aired again when he passes.
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holy shit man ole kirk looks fucking horribe ??? he was one of my favorite actors,he was great in showdown at the OK corral with burt lancaster.he was doc holiday and lancaster was wyatt.i love those old movies from back then,they just dont make them that anymore imo
At least he still has some hair on his head. That is more than I can say. It is best not to look at photos of yourself in your youth when you get old. It can be depressing.
The first photo was taken in 1968. The other one is recent.
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At least he still has some hair on his head. That is more than I can say. It is best not to look at photos of yourself in your youth when you get old. It can be depressing.
The first photo was taken in 1968. The other one is recent.
Think you look better older.
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Think you look better older.
This (no homo)
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At least he still has some hair on his head. That is more than I can say. It is best not to look at photos of yourself in your youth when you get old. It can be depressing.
The first photo was taken in 1968. The other one is recent.
You already looked like an old man (an old Tbombz to be exact who also looked old when younger) when you were younger so there was probably nothing to get used to.
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(http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/sites/default/files/public/article/images/featured/2013/09/wrestlersss2.jpg)
My mom (rip) used to always say how good looking he was. Women prefer that over ripped and shaved. Beefy with fat off season look and does not worry about shaving.
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Razor Ramon doesn't look Spanish at all without the tan and Black hair. lol Just gave me an idea: I am Ukrainian... but am just a tan and bottle of black hair dye away from being a Spanish fly chick magnet. lol 8) Didn't another poster say that guys look better with dark hair? And that women make good gingers and blonds :'(
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You already looked like an old man (an old Tbombz to be exact who also looked old when younger) when you were younger so there was probably nothing to get used to.
One advantage to looking older when I was young was that from 15 years old on, I could get served without needing to show ID. -Probably a dubious advantage.
I too thought there was some similarity between my appearance a Tbombz's. It is probably the haircut. In reality, we are as different as night and day in every respect.
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A man can age well with good diet, training, drugs, and grooming. At least as far as looks go, it doesn't have to suck. ;)
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A man can age well with good diet, training, drugs, and grooming. At least as far as looks go, it doesn't have to suck. ;)
Bay Likey!
Do you think he smells like smoked sausage?
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71 years old, still traveling the world going into war zones, still a pussy slayer, and still ready to throw down if you piss him off.
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.23335!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/gal-stache-geraldo-jpg.jpg)
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73 years old and really hasn't changed much in 25 years.
(http://media.masslive.com/opinion_impact/photo/9147203-large.jpg)
(http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/AATTP-George-Will.jpg)
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71 years old, still traveling the world going into war zones, still a pussy slayer, and still ready to throw down if you piss him off.
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.23335!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/gal-stache-geraldo-jpg.jpg)
black don't crack
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At least he still has some hair on his head. That is more than I can say. It is best not to look at photos of yourself in your youth when you get old. It can be depressing.
The first photo was taken in 1968. The other one is recent.
Getbig's spatula king. ;D
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73 years old and really hasn't changed much in 25 years.
(http://media.masslive.com/opinion_impact/photo/9147203-large.jpg)
(http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/AATTP-George-Will.jpg)
You are aware that he wears a bad wig right?
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Age don't matter too much if you don't lose your hair.
Just don't lose your fucking hair. If you do you're just another bald old man.
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You are aware that he wears a bad wig right?
Um, no, because he doesn't. It's amusing how you just make things up.
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Um, no, because he doesn't. It's amusing how you just make things up.
Jesus you are a moron.
Here
https://www.google.com/search?q=george+will+wig&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Jesus you are a moron.
Here
https://www.google.com/search?q=george+will+wig&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Jesus Christ, you are a moron! You really do believe everything you read on the net!
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Jesus Christ, you are a moron! You really do believe everything you read on the net!
Like thinking gh15 is real?
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Jesus Christ, you are a moron! You really do believe everything you read on the net!
How dense can you be? George Will is known to have one of the most atrocious hair pieces known to man.
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How dense can you be? George Will is known to have one of the most atrocious hair pieces known to man.
No he's not. You just make things up and google and post whatever supports your view point. How dense can you be?
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You gave up so easy. I was just trolling TA style. I just don't think it looks that bad and I'm sure it's much better than whatever he has going on naturally. I have no problem with people improving their appearance artificially be it plastic/cosmetic surgery, braces, or lifting weights to give them bigger muscles. And, yes, I don't think lifting weights is natural.
People here make fun of people like Stallone for the cosmetic surgery and hair transplant. But they would make fun of him being bald and wrinkled as well. Fact is the guy is 68 years old and looks great. Better than 99.9% of people his age. Hell, he looks better than most adult males at any age. And I don't care and it's none of my business, nor anybody else, what he does to look like that.
(http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/slystallonepenisarms.jpg)
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A man can age well with good diet, training, drugs, and grooming.
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Jesus you are a moron.
Here
https://www.google.com/search?q=george+will+wig&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Dude, you've got the most sensitive wig radar of anyone online. It's kind of your thing, I've noticed.
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You gave up so easy. I was just trolling TA style. I just don't think it looks that bad and I'm sure it's much better than whatever he has going on naturally. I have no problem with people improving their appearance artificially be it plastic/cosmetic surgery, braces, or lifting weights to give them bigger muscles. And, yes, I don't think lifting weights is natural.
People here make fun of people like Stallone for the cosmetic surgery and hair transplant. But they would make fun of him being bald and wrinkled as well. Fact is the guy is 68 years old and looks great. Better than 99.9% of people his age. Hell, he looks better than most adult males at any age. And I don't care and it's none of my business, nor anybody else, what he does to look like that.
(http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/slystallonepenisarms.jpg)
He could easily pass for 40s there. Good 40s, I mean.
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hairy lug holes :'(
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Dude, you've got the most sensitive wig radar of anyone online. It's kind of your thing, I've noticed.
Its a hobby of mine. I find it hilarious. The whole insecurity of it all. Its easy to tell, especially with HD photography these days. Most people are still fooled for some reason, but is really pretty obvious.
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the way i see it is since we cant prevent the aging process we can do things to slow it down and look and feel younger than we really are,whether its HGH,eating well,stress relief ect,we do what we gotta do
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Its a hobby of mine. I find it hilarious. The whole insecurity of it all. Its easy to tell, especially with HD photography these days. Most people are still fooled for some reason, but is really pretty obvious.
Is wanting to look as good as you can only about insecurities? Why do you lift weights? If you came back from a two week vacation and came home to see a bit of flab over the abs would you do something about it? Step it up a bit to get rid of the flab. Ever see Judge Jeanie? That lady is over sixty years old. A product of cosmetic surgery and most likely hgh and also employing a personal trainer. Would it be better if she just allowed herself to keep her natural wrinkles? Could Stallone pull off his Rambo and Rocky movies if he kept his male pattern baldness?
Sixty three years old.
Would hit.
(http://imgdump.novarata.net/image.php?di=HAK6)
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the way i see it is since we cant prevent the aging process we can do things to slow it down and look and feel younger than we really are,whether its HGH,eating well,stress relief ect,we do what we gotta do
I'm on a quite a regimen of anti-aging (pure experimental), I have no idea of how effective it will be or won't, or it may even harm me, but I'd dare to say it may be possible to affect that process to at least some extent by the tools available now. To find it out is difficult, the time frame is a human lifespan, a long time for an experiment.
By using test and gh in physiological doses you most certainly will slow down some aspects of detorriation. I'd try to keep my lifestyle as anti-cancer as possible if I'd still be on hormones at age 50+. And even than it may go down to genetics and the effectiveness of an immune system (if you have it strong, you won't get cancer even at age 100).
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Is wanting to look as good as you can only about insecurities? Why do you lift weights? If you came back from a two week vacation and came home to see a bit of flab over the abs would you do something about it? Step it up a bit to get rid of the flab. Ever see Judge Jeanie? That lady is over sixty years old. A product of cosmetic surgery and most likely hgh and also employing a personal trainer. Would it be better if she just allowed herself to keep her natural wrinkles? Could Stallone pull off his Rambo and Rocky movies if he kept his male pattern baldness?
Sixty three years old.
Would hit.
(http://imgdump.novarata.net/image.php?di=HAK6)
That's impressive. Regarding wigs, balding must be a horrible thing for a self esteem. I know some very young guys who went bald already and it sucks for them, as their facial features/head is completely not suited for that. I think a wig would look better lol.. but that's a lot of hassle. These who'll be able to regrow hair relatively cheap will be billionaires instantly.
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I'm on a quite a regimen of anti-aging (pure experimental), I have no idea of how effective it will be or won't, or it may even harm me, but I'd dare to say it may be possible to affect that process to at least some extent by the tools available now. To find it out is difficult, the time frame is a human lifespan, a long time for an experiment.
By using test and gh in physiological doses you most certainly will slow down some aspects of detorriation. I'd try to keep my lifestyle as anti-cancer as possible if I'd still be on hormones at age 50+. And even than it may go down to genetics and the effectiveness of an immune system (if you have it strong, you won't get cancer even at age 100).
I think it should be distinguished between extended life span and improving or maintaining the quality of life at a given age. I don't think Stallone or Chuck Norris will extend their life span to any meaningful degree by using HGH, eating right and exercising. But not many 70 year olds can do a round house kick.
The only thing that has been proven to meaningfully extend life span is to drastically cut your daily caloric intake. But the trade off with quality of life might not justify the additional years.
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I think it should be distinguished between extended life span and improving or maintaining the quality of life at a given age. I don't think Stallone or Chuck Norris will extend their life span to any meaningful degree by using HGH, eating right and exercising. But not many 70 year olds can do a round house kick.
The only thing that has been proven to meaningfully extend life span is to drastically cut your daily caloric intake. But the trade off with quality of life might not justify the additional years.
Yeah, it's only proven thing. Other stuff is more of a theoretical value (some has it's experimental value too), tho a complex combination of some regimens may yeld a positive result, theoretically (as that hasn't really been tried yet).
Quality of life, of course. Imho it's probably better to die at 70 in a great physical shape than to live to 90 while being a walking dead from an age 50 or so (when hormones really start declining a lot).
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Its a hobby of mine. I find it hilarious. The whole insecurity of it all. Its easy to tell, especially with HD photography these days. Most people are still fooled for some reason, but is really pretty obvious.
You sure about Wahlberg, though? And Affleck. Ain't seeing it is all.
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You sure about Wahlberg, though? And Affleck. Ain't seeing it is all.
I did a thesis on remedies for baldness several years ago. It is amazing how good some wigs look in person and when they are new. Hair Club for Men, has some pretty amazing wigs or toupees. They aren't cheap and they require monthly maintenance. Folks like Affleck and Wahlberg have lots of change to spend on this.
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I remember towards the end of Daredevil Affleck is in a scene were the sprinkler system is going off and his hair looked really synthetic under the water and it wasn't falling.
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He could easily pass for 40s there. Good 40s, I mean.
No way, up close you could easily see he's well beyond his 40's dude.
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He could easily pass for 40s there. Good 40s, I mean.
Extract foot from mouth. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. ::)
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secret is just keep on the juice and it can turn back the clock,HGH is the best fountain of youth a man can find.im 50 and people tell me i look 35 or younger,i really believe my youthful look is a result of me masterbating constantly
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secret is just keep on the juice and it can turn back the clock,HGH is the best fountain of youth a man can find.im 50 and people tell me i look 35 or younger,i really believe my youthful look is a result of me masterbating constantly
Are you on some GH too or just a "conservative" TRT?
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Are you on some GH too or just a "conservative" TRT?
just TRT, im picking up my test next week at my buddys house,he just got the sauce in ;) im happy as hell man its been almost 6 weeks ive been out.they got an AIDS CLINIC near me and the clients sell their HGH KITS for 50 to 100 bucks,im gonna buy 3 kits next week.my buddy just bought 6 kits for 500 dollars the other day
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how do you feel physique.strenght wise compared to your best or younger days,and holding up now /current look.
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how do you feel physique.strenght wise compared to your best or younger days,and holding up now /current look.
Contemplating?
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Contemplating?
i am in shape all yr,training never issue,look foward to every workout,feel great...no down time .if anything would like anybody else be a bit bigger,,,but i stay lean enough not to want to bulk 'harder to get it off..
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just TRT, im picking up my test next week at my buddys house,he just got the sauce in ;) im happy as hell man its been almost 6 weeks ive been out.they got an AIDS CLINIC near me and the clients sell their HGH KITS for 50 to 100 bucks,im gonna buy 3 kits next week.my buddy just bought 6 kits for 500 dollars the other day
Fukkin good deal for a legit gh, and everyone is happy. Yes, add some gh, not much, a physiological dose (1-2iu) it will make it even better.
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i am in shape all yr,training never issue,look foward to every workout,feel great...no down time .if anything would like anybody else be a bit bigger,,,but i stay lean enough not to want to bulk 'harder to get it off..
I know you are, but just think about how much "better" you could be...
;D ;D ;D ;D
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I know you are, but just think about how much "better" you could be...
;D ;D ;D ;D
i have no answer for that... i agree that theres always yes or no and in the end what for the extra bit i can't achieve on ones normal production/levels..i am vain as they come ,but draw the line at some things or extremes and have 3 young kids somewaht ahead of my own demands..
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i have no answer for that... i agree that theres always yes or no and in the end what for the extra bit i can't achieve on ones normal production/levels..i am vain as they come ,but draw the line at some things or extremes and have 3 young kids somewaht ahead of my own demands..
Priorities, brother...
Glad to see you've got'em!!
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No way, up close you could easily see he's well beyond his 40's dude.
Talking about the pic itself.
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how do you feel physique.strenght wise compared to your best or younger days,and holding up now /current look.
I was weak when I was young. Compared to then, I feel strong these days. My energy levels have decreased in the last decade. I remember jogging 3 miles to the gym, working out for an hour and jogging home. I know I don't have the energy or the knees for that today. Whenever I take time off from lifting, it takes me awhile to get back into it poundage wise. I like to take it slow and easy.
So much goes into one's appearance. I was noticing that my skin is splotched with age and sun related pigmentation changes. Despite not being wrinkled, I don't have the skin tone of someone in their heyday. I think for the most part my physique looks good. I could use more size and definition, which is fine because it gives me something to strive for. I reconciled myself to the fact that I will never be 20 years old again....or 60 years old for that matter. It is best to look to the future and not the past. I feel confident that I look much better and am much more healthy than at least 80% of the folks who are my age. This is partly due to my lifelong dedication to exercise, diet and healthy living.
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I was weak when I was young. Compared to then, I feel strong these days. My energy levels have decreased in the last decade. I remember jogging 3 miles to the gym, working out for an hour and jogging home. I know I don't have the energy or the knees for that today. Whenever I take time off from lifting, it takes me awhile to get back into it poundage wise. I like to take it slow and easy.
So much goes into one's appearance. I was noticing that my skin is splotched with age and sun related pigmentation changes. Despite not being wrinkled, I don't have the skin tone of someone in their heyday. I think for the most part my physique looks good. I could use more size and definition, which is fine because it gives me something to strive for. I reconciled myself to the fact that I will never be 20 years old again....or 60 years old for that matter. It is best to look to the future and not the past. I feel confident that I look much better and am much more healthy than at least 80% of the folks who are my age. This is partly due to my lifelong dedication to exercise, diet and healthy living.
Shushh, Brother.