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http://www.thedreamlounge.net/barbell-squat/
Once upon a time I published a post on this blog titled “Barbell Squat : the Worst Exercise in Existence?”. As it turned out, barbell squat fanati fans were not pleased with this post.
In fact after they got done kindly telling me how upset they were with my ideas, they proceeded to link my post from the front page of every major “fitness” forum on the internet, so all of their buddies could join in on venting bottled up rage from early childhood abuse.
Excuse me, leaving entertaining and constructive comments on my blog for the betterment of mankind, care bears, and unicorns.
Okay, let’s get serious. This post is being produced because I’m not done criticizing the stupidity that is the illustrious, the worshiped, the magical, the super-natural, and our lord and savior, THE BARBELL SQUAT.
(In this post, I am specifically addressing the free-standing-barbell-back-squat, rack or no rack. Unless otherwise noted, front loaded barbell squats, belt squats, dumbbell squats, body weight squats, squats performed in a smith machine or similar device, etc, are excluded from this discussion).
Top Ten Reasons NOT to Barbell Squat
These are presented in no particular order, unless otherwise noted.
Reason # 1
The favorite, most highly touted exercise of the world’s dumbest men, is the barbell squat (500+ sources).
Reason # 2
The barbell squat requires “good form” they say, indicating that it is a skill (unlike say walking, which requires no measurable degree of skill for a normal human being, or a horizontal leg press which requires categorically less skill than a free standing barbell back squat – something grandma can do).
Well, skill based movement in a fatiguing and progressive protocol = a recipe for disaster. (source)
Reason # 3
Russian roulette with a multi-hundred pound barbell x 500,000 trigger pulls = someone getting hurt.
“But I’ve squatted for many years with no injuries” : says the turkey. Well here’s a quote from The Black Swan for the turkeys of the world.
Consider that the turkey’s experience may have, rather than no value, a negative value. It learned from observation, as we are all advised to do (hey, after all, this is what is believed to be the scientific method). Its confidence increased as the number of friendly feedings grew, and it felt increasingly safe even though the slaughter was more and more imminent. Consider that the feeling of safety reached its maximum when the risk was at the highest!
That last part is especially important for the “experienced” trainee aiming for a personal record, or even just “squatting heavy” on a given day.
Reason # 4
A barbell squatter’s ability to walk is one pulled muscle, one fallen eyelash, one “freak accident” away from being at immediate risk.
(The Wizard of Oz called by the way, he said the straw man is unavailable due to a medical emergency; something to do with a barbell and straw).
Reason # 5
There is an absolutely, definitively, and entirely better alternative to the barbell squat (all forms) : the little known hip belt squat. (Disclaimer : this is just a generic link to a website many will recognize. There are better sources of information on the hip belt squat available elsewhere).
Author and speaker Bill DeSimone has called this exercise “the most congruent lower body exercise conceivable”.
Reason # 6
The structure of the spine does not suggest that it is suited for top heavy loads. (source).
Reason # 7
The creators of the dictionary called me.
They said “The new definition of “wishful thinking” now includes the idea that the muscles surrounding the human spine track in accordance with the growth of the largest and strongest muscles and bones of the body”.
Reason # 8
There is nothing on earth to suggest that making your spine the “middle man” between a multi-hundred pound barbell, and your legs, is a particularly good, or even safe idea. (source)
Reason # 9
Looks like heavy squats can (and if it can go wrong, it will go wrong) cause nerve damage to the shoulders. (source and discussion).
Reason # 10
This is a redundant point, but it is worth repeating : the barbell squat is the most popular exercise on the planet among dip shit meat heads.
What in the world makes you think these people have good, sound ideas? I have no doubt many of these people are big and strong.
What I doubt is that there is anything going on upstairs. (source).
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Great post
Watch Coach and Co try and demolish it.
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"Anthony Dream Johnson", I was expecting a black dude, and I get this -
(http://www.thedreamlounge.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/34351_465145058311_510388311_6231454_4437875_n.jpg).
I feel like Drexl when he finds out who Clarence Worley is....
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I wouldn’t normally care to pick on someone like Mark Rippetoe, but he’s one of the most popular proponents of performing a barbell squat, AND, he says stuff like this on a consistent basis.
There are few things graven in stone, except that you have to squat or you’re a pussy.
As it turns out, this isn’t true. In fact in reality, you would be quite wise to avoid the free standing barbell squat entirely.
I discuss why in the (informal) video blog below, in which I might come off as polarizing or aggravating to some. If I do, please understand that wasn’t necessarily my intention, nor did I try to avoid it.
I was primarily interested discussing the downfalls of the barbell squat, not being sensitive (or insensitive) towards your feelings, and potentially decade + long investment into the barbell squat.
So I simply don’t care one way or the other, and if the video aggravates you, just stop watching it.
Certainly no one is forcing you to.
Now, as far as the points made, they summarize as follows. They are all very basic. Nothing revolutionary in and of themselves.
One:
Loading the top of the spine — which in many respects is a pyramid — with a 200, 250, 300, 350, 400+ … pound bar, and then moving that bar up and down a few feet, does not seem especially wise in and of itself.
Please see the picture below for further reference. (Try to think: does this structure look especially suited for loading the strongest and largest muscles in my body with a shit ton of weight?)
If you’re a barbell squat fan, the question you should be asking yourself is: at what point in human history did this become a good idea?
Or as stated in the video, what person without social/cultural influences suggesting if not pressuring him to perform a free standing barbell squat, would decide on his own to set this exercise up and do it?
On this level alone, it appears to be a really bad idea.
Two:
The primary muscles that most squatters intend to work, are the muscles of the legs, which are huge muscles, surrounding huge bones, supported and surrounded by comparatively huge joints.
The spine on the other hand is perhaps the most delicate joint structure in the entire body. Small bones, that get smaller towards the top (where the multi-hundred pound bar is applied), surrounding small muscles with little room for hypertrophy, supported by delicate connective tissues.
Certainly the consequences for injuring it in any meaningful way are along the lines of : you’re fucked.
The point I’m getting at here is: why are you applying resistance so far, in fact as far as physically possible, from the intended muscle group?
You can do a belt squat or a leg press and effectively get as close as possible to the intended muscle group.
A barbell squat is the equivalent of loading your triceps through your feet, upside down against a wall. Aside from loading the barbell on your skull, there is no more ineffective, bass ackwards way to load your legs with a heavy resistance.
Furthermore, you’re force feeding that resistance through your spine. There is no way around it. The only bones connecting the weight and your legs and pelvis are your vertebrae.
Which brings me to my next and final point.
Three:
The barbell squat is absolutely self-defeating. Why?
Because success in a barbell squat means primarily, stronger legs. Stronger and stronger legs will need more and more resistance.
If 150 pounds of resistance, force fed through the spine, is antagonistically bad to begin with, 200 pounds is exponentially worse.
250 pounds is further worse.
251 pounds is still worse.
252 … 253 … etc.
The stronger you get, and the more success you have performing a barbell squat, the more ineffective and dangerous the exercise becomes. The risk of injury not only increases, but so does the actual effect of a potential injury.
One pulled, torn, stretched muscle, one mis step, one hard slam of that bar on the rack is all it takes to cause an injury, however minor or severe.
Think this is a rare thing that won’t happen to you? Keep dreaming. In a long enough time span, I would bet the risk of injury on a free standing barbell squat is 100%.
I.e. if you start squatting from a young age, and continue this over a lifetime like Mr. Rippetoe would have you do, the chance of an injury happening approaches 100%. It becomes inevitable.
Are you really willing to gamble your ability to walk on your “perfect skill” in performing a barbell squat? You really think you’re going to squat 1,000 times and never have a “freak” accident?
It’s not freak at all, it was bound to happen and easily predictable by looking at a third grade level picture of the human spine with a crappy photo-shopped barbell at the top.
Bottom line:
The free standing barbell squat is a bad idea anyway you cut it.
The only way to “fix” it, is to stop doing it, and instead perform any other compound leg exercise available, of which, there are a ton of options. Some are better than others.
All are better than a free standing barbell squat.
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after reading this i'm even more convinced not to squat anymore
except hip belt squats
i'd like to give them a try after reading all this
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No Science to back up this great article. Wonderful.
I just read a study done by NASA that rated the squat as the most beneficial exercise of any single exercise in terms of keeping muscle mass in zero G because it engages the most muscles in the most efficient manner.
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Yes, nobody ever got hurt doing leg press or belted hip squats. ::) The lengths people will go to to avoid an exercise is comedic.
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I just read a study done by NASA that rated the squat as the most beneficial exercise of any single exercise in terms of keeping muscle mass in zero G because it engages the most muscles in the most efficient manner.
That's good enough for me, I'll be squatting tomorrow.
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My physical therapist gave me at least ten reasons why doing squats was good for you. Try squatting while balancing on a half exercise ball sometime if you really want to work a lot of muscles at once.
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Science says Squat! From April 2014
http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Citation/2014/04000/The_Acute_Hormonal_Response_to_Free_Weight_and.22.aspx
Home > April 2014 - Volume 28 - Issue 4 > The Acute Hormonal Response to Free Weight and Machine Free Weight and Machine Weight Resistance Exercise
Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research:
April 2014 - Volume 28 - Issue 4 - p 1032–1040
doi: 10.1519/JSC.0000000000000317
Original Research
The Acute Hormonal Response to Free Weight and Machine Weight Resistance Exercise
Shaner, Aaron A.1; Vingren, Jakob L.1,2; Hatfield, Disa L.3; Budnar, Ronald G. Jr1; Duplanty, Anthony A.1,2; Hill, David W.1
Abstract
Abstract: Shaner, AA, Vingren, JL, Hatfield, DL, Budnar Jr, RG, Duplanty, AA, and Hill, DW. The acute hormonal response to free weight and machine weight resistance exercise. J Strength Cond Res 28(4): 1032–1040, 2014—Resistance exercise can acutely increase the concentrations of circulating neuroendocrine factors, but the effect of mode on this response is not established. The purpose of this study was to examine the effect of resistance exercise selection on the acute hormonal response using similar lower-body multijoint movement free weight and machine weight exercises. Ten resistance trained men (25 ± 3 years, 179 ± 7 cm, 84.2 ± 10.5 kg) completed 6 sets of 10 repetitions of squat or leg press at the same relative intensity separated by 1 week. Blood samples were collected before (PRE), immediately after (IP), and 15 (P15) and 30 minutes (P30) after exercise, and analyzed for testosterone (T), growth hormone (GH), and cortisol (C) concentrations. Exercise increased (p ≤ 0.05) T and GH at IP, but the concentrations at IP were greater for the squat (T: 31.4 ± 10.3 nmol·L−1; GH: 9.5 ± 7.3 μg·L−1) than for the leg press (T: 26.9 ± 7.8 nmol·L−1; GH: 2.8 ± 3.2 μg·L−1). At P15 and P30, GH was greater for the squat (P15: 12.3 ± 8.9 μg·L−1; P30: 12.0 ± 8.9 μg·L−1) than for the leg press (P15: 4.8 ± 3.4 μg·L−1; P30: 5.4 ± 4.1 μg·L−1). C was increased after exercise and was greater for the squat than for the leg press. Although total work (external load and body mass moved) was greater for the squat than for the leg press, rating of perceived exertion did not differ between the modes. Free weight exercises seem to induce greater hormonal responses to resistance exercise than machine weight exercises using similar lower-body multijoint movements and primary movers.
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If Analhole wanted to become a doctor, Getbig would be littered with threads asking:
- do I have to study?
- do I have to pass the exams?
- do I have to go to medical school?
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Great post
Watch Coach and Co try and demolish it.
I knew you were going to support this thread you lazy rubber band fuck.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/21/article-2328452-19E87628000005DC-467_634x468.jpg)
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after reading this i'm even more convinced not to squat anymore
except hip belt squats
i'd like to give them a try after reading all this
I did regularly squats and liked it, until the day I got problems with the cervical spine. The more weight I could take, the more problems like muscle tension and headaches appeared. Seems it dont works for me.
What do you think about front squats ?
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I did regularly squats and liked it, until the day I got problems with the cervical spine. The more weight I could take, the more problems like muscle tension and headaches appeared. Seems it dont works for me.
What do you think about front squats ?
Bad form most of you guys have no idea how to squat properly or use too much weight then you develop problems and blame it on the squat, I have seen this many time.
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I squat when i feel like squatting or when im working on power/explosiveness, and dont squat when i dont feel like it.
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IMO they're ok if you use a load that allows you to hit 20+reps. Otherwise I don't like them, too much pressure on my low back and neck.
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IMO they're ok if you use a load that allows you to hit 20+reps. Otherwise I don't like them, too much pressure on my low back and neck.
A good idea is to warm up your lower back on the lower back machine before squatting and work your way up to 10 resp, and if you are feeling pressure on your lower back it simply means that your form is not good.
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IMO they're ok if you use a load that allows you to hit 20+reps. Otherwise I don't like them, too much pressure on my low back and neck.
You probably are not putting the bar in the correct place for your build if that is the case.
Ideal placement you should not feel a thing on your lower back or neck. Try putting the bar at the base of the traps, resting on the rear delt area.
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Squat is a god allround excerice, u dont need to be even smart to understand that. Ass, quad, calf, lower back, abdominal, balance, back...
Like deadlift, standig militarypress, benchpress, standbig biceps curls, free weights take much more energy and make u more tired! Thats when machines com into the game, u get older, u get lazier...sit in a machine feel more comfortable. In a machine u dosent need to cary your own body + the weight.
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excellent post on exercise safety by the guy filled with synthetic drugs who still goes out drinking regularly.
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Halo, Ronald Dean Coleman squats perhaps you should reconsider your advices?
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Performance/strength athletes squat.
Most modern bodybuilders do not. And of those who do, they mostly get it wrong, anyway.
The general masses are also generally wimpy and will say and do anything to avoid squatting.
HTH
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written by a true girly man
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I just read a study done by NASA that rated the squat as the most beneficial exercise of any single exercise in terms of keeping muscle mass in zero G because it engages the most muscles in the most efficient manner.
A smarter guy could find a gravity suit joke, somewhere in here. ;D
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Not a very strong argument.
Also, not a very good use of the Nassim Taleb quote
Kid is a tiny Tim
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"Anthony Dream Johnson", I was expecting a black dude, and I get this -
(http://www.thedreamlounge.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/34351_465145058311_510388311_6231454_4437875_n.jpg).
I feel like Drexl when he finds out who Clarence Worley is....
This clown looks like just bar alone would break him. I could give him 10 reasons to not ever write anything about training again lets alone squatting just based twink picture and should sure as hell have the shit slapped out him for calling himself "Dream". I would love to introduce to my friend Anthony "Rumble" Johnson.
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This clown looks like just bar alone would break him. I could give him 10 reasons to not ever write anything about training again lets alone squatting just based twink picture and should sure as hell have the shit slapped out him for calling himself "Dream". I would love to introduce to my friend Anthony "Rumble" Johnson.
He probably has an article about 10 reasons why nobody should train chest or biceps either.
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He probably has an article about 10 reasons why nobody should train chest or biceps either.
Hahaha.
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All I read was, "I'm weak, don't like being uncomfortable, and I'm too lazy"
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after reading this i'm even more convinced not to squat anymore
except hip belt squats
i'd like to give them a try after reading all this
Dude..blow your back out with Barbell good mornings :D 315+lbs barbell resting on your upper back, bend over but do it 10x10 90 seconds rest between sets...help your squat. If your wheel chair reaches the squat rack ... ::)
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We get it, the squat is hard to train and hard to learn compared to most other exercises. It is however a tried, true and proven exercise and if you dislike it you can simply avoid the power-rack/squat rack and stick to doing leg presses or whatever other easier, less technical lift you desire.
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The squat is a great exercise but not only the back squat. i find Front squats better for ME because i have heavy thighs and i find front squats hit my quads much better than back squats. My Glute hip area is well devoped with Deadlits. I do like Leg press too. It all fits together. A great exercise is lunges ala.. njflex (steve) doing them on stairs ;D
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The leg press kills my back
the hack squat kills my knees
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The leg press kills my back
the hack squat kills my knees
Hack squat i understand but leg press,, depends on your form.
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Squats are great, though I just like to keep the load lighter and do 10X10.
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I just read a study done by NASA that rated the squat as the most beneficial exercise of any single exercise in terms of keeping muscle mass in zero G because it engages the most muscles in the most efficient manner.
You must be trolling.
Squatting in zero G? Hmmm, I can squat 10,000 in zero G. On one leg.
NASA is all about bands.
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Hack squat i understand but leg press,, depends on your form.
Maybe its cuz I'm 6'4 but the regular leg press are torture on my back. The hammer strength leg press doesnt hurt but only my home gym has it.
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Maybe its cuz I'm 6'4 but the regular leg press are torture on my back. The hammer strength leg press doesnt hurt but only my home gym has it.
Hammer strength is great, I used one that was unilateral allowing one leg at a time.
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i stay away from barbell squats due to a previous lumbar surgery but i still do them somewhat...i bearhug a 45 pound plate infront of me and i squat away, after a few sets i increase the weight by tying 2 plates together...i also use heavy dumbells to the front..works just fine
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i stay away from barbell squats due to a previous lumbar surgery but i still do them somewhat...i bearhug a 45 pound plate infront of me and i squat away, after a few sets i increase the weight by tying 2 plates together...i also use heavy dumbells to the front..works just fine
You had me at bearhug, doll.
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You must be trolling.
Squatting in zero G? Hmmm, I can squat 10,000 in zero G. On one leg.
NASA is all about bands.
Nope.
Here is how they squat in Zero G.
(http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/iss038e041406-580x527.jpg)
Expedition 38/39 astronaut Koichi Wakata (Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency) uses the advanced Resistive Exercise Device (aRED) in the Tranquility node of the International Space Station in February 2014. Credit: NASA
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You had me at bearhug, doll.
.....................................haha, didnt know of any other way to explain it
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You must be trolling.
Squatting in zero G? Hmmm, I can squat 10,000 in zero G. On one leg.
NASA is all about bands.
Astronaut Mike Hopkins did a whole series about exercising in Space.
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Maybe its cuz I'm 6'4 but the regular leg press are torture on my back. The hammer strength leg press doesnt hurt but only my home gym has it.
Maybe you're trying to force the ROM? Im about the same size as you and I had the same problem until I realized the ROM for the leg press isn't all that large. Just go down right before your back starts to bend and it'll be all on your legs. When I first started lifting I tried to go all the way down and realized that it takes some load off your legs and puts it on your lower back.
The problem with my gym is they have a leg press with the platform that is straight and diagonal, and my size 14.5 clown shoes can't fit on either one
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You must be trolling.
Squatting in zero G? Hmmm, I can squat 10,000 in zero G. On one leg.
NASA is all about bands.
Click here - http://www.youtube.com/user/ReelNASA/search?query=workout , they have a little series on space workouts. Edit, Ta linked to it.
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Pretty cool series with all the videos:
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Astronaut Mike Hopkins has a pretty good physique.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QKlE7gf3xlw/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Non squatters getting kicked around in this thread.
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Since doing 1 legged leg press, I've gotten better results. Easier on the back, and the weight is more than cut in half than with 2 legs at a time. Not good if you're an ego lifter though. Still do squats sometimes. I've got a long torso to leg ratio so it's tough to go super deep. It's like anything, do what works for your body type.
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Dorian never did them. End of thread.
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Maybe you're trying to force the ROM? Im about the same size as you and I had the same problem until I realized the ROM for the leg press isn't all that large. Just go down right before your back starts to bend and it'll be all on your legs. When I first started lifting I tried to go all the way down and realized that it takes some load off your legs and puts it on your lower back.
The problem with my gym is they have a leg press with the platform that is straight and diagonal, and my size 14.5 clown shoes can't fit on either one
OK I'll try that. I do go pretty deep.
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you're just finding evidence to support your fear of doing them because they are hard.
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you're just finding evidence to support your fear of doing them because they are hard.
(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/WillBrink.gif)
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The real reason why guys don't squat has nothing to do with injuries. Squatting is hard work and most avoid hard work. Most guys love lying on a padded bed pushing a weight then do a couple curls calling it a day.
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(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/WillBrink.gif)
I'm beautiful aren't I? You're mother just loves my piercing eyes
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I'm beautiful aren't I? You're mother just loves my piercing eyes
Haha.
Is your head to small due to you being born out of your mothers asshole?
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Haha.
Is your head to small due to you being born out of your mothers asshole?
It's the traps, something you will never have.
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agree to disagree neegar
::)
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bottoms should never roll their eyes in the presence of real men.
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bottoms should never roll their eyes in the presence of real men.
Seek help you are desperately cruising message boards looking for confrontation because you don't challenge yourself outside this make believe world you live in. A piece of you is dying everytime you post.
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Seek help you are desperately cruising message boards looking for confrontation because you don't challenge yourself outside this make believe world you live in. A piece of you is dying everytime you post.
Or maybe I find amusement in peoples lack of wit, specifically you; you amuse me... take a bow.
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Or maybe I find amusement in peoples lack of wit, specifically you; you amuse me... take a bow.
How about you blow me instead.
Looking for social engagement with older men on a bodybuilding board ,oh brother ::)
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How about you blow me instead.
Looking for social engagement with older men on a bodybuilding board ,oh brother ::)
what makes you think im not an older man?
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Hammer strength is great, I used one that was unilateral allowing one leg at a time.
I bought a Hammer Strength leg press for my garage last month, fantastic bit of kit especially if you loop a band around it and go slowly.
That and front squats are pretty much all I do now
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I like lunges
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what makes you think im not an older man?
Making fun of someone's physical appearance is something an adolescent does.
I remember when I was going through puberty...
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Dorian never did them. End of thread.
Ronnie did them. Thread restarted.
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Making fun of someone's physical appearance is something an adolescent does.
I remember when I was going through puberty...
This is a bodybuilding forum, you feelgood bitch. Getbig the thunderdome.
If you want to deal with nice people, go to betty crockers forum.
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Halo, Ronald Dean Coleman squats perhaps you should reconsider your advices?
Nothin' but a peanut.
Bad dude.
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Ronnie did them. Thread restarted.
Superior black man silverback gorilla genetic freak. End of thread reinstated.
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Halo was right. Serious meltdown.
Get over it - squats are just an exercise.
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Only a big girl's blouse complains about doing to squats.
Dorian used to squat all the time, I havent the slightest were the idea he failed to arose from.
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after reading this i'm even more convinced not to squat anymore
except hip belt squats
i'd like to give them a try after reading all this
Just 1 name: VINCE GIRONDA , ;)
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Making fun of someone's physical appearance is something an adolescent does.
I remember when I was going through puberty...
Get lost, "the stink."
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I love squat both heavy and light. But honestly , i feel heavy squat is not good at all for human body
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Only a big girl's blouse complains about doing to squats.
Dorian used to squat all the time, I havent the slightest were the idea he failed to arose from.
Came straight from Dorian. Said he never did squats as a pro. Watch starting at 5:30.
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I did regularly squats and liked it, until the day I got problems with the cervical spine. The more weight I could take, the more problems like muscle tension and headaches appeared. Seems it dont works for me.
What do you think about front squats ?
i'm actually also thinking front squats might be a little better for the upper part of the spine
but generally it also seems bad for the spine
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Halo, Ronald Dean Coleman squats perhaps you should reconsider your advices?
brian dobson destroyed this beautiful man
his spine is fucked on several places
hips are gone
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i'm actually also thinking front squats might be a little better for the upper part of the spine
but generally it also seems bad for the spine
Obviously squats are bad for the hips :-X
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Obviously squats are bad for the hips :-X
i used to squat real hard 3 times a week when i was a natural homo
my right hip used to feel a bit shitty and clicky
i still have it a bit but i'm glad i stopped this medieval exorcise
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i used to squat real hard 3 times a week when i was a natural homo
my right hip used to feel a bit shitty and clicky
i still have it a bit but i'm glad i stopped this medieval exorcise
I've only done squats twice my whole life. Both times my hips and knees felt really sketchy like a major injury would occur any minute.
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it probably boils down to genetics. take athletes in proper sports, you get some that can go their entire career without a serious injury then you get others that are injured more than they're not.
if you have genetically fragile tendons/ligaments/cartilage don't bother squatting or doing anything else too strenuous.
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The real reason why guys don't squat has nothing to do with injuries. Squatting is hard work and most avoid hard work. Most guys love lying on a padded bed pushing a weight then do a couple curls calling it a day.
a padded bed... ;D
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I squat when i feel like squatting or when im working on power/explosiveness, and dont squat when i dont feel like it.
Zactly ^^^
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Just 1 name: vince gironda,TOM PLATZ ;)
Fixed ;D
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HEAVY squats are shit
squats (preferably front) with a minimum of 15 reps is where its at
quads just dont respond to low reps anyways growth wise
yeah ronnie coleman did squats but look at him now hes CRIPPLED
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Reason # 6
The structure of the spine does not suggest that it is suited for top heavy loads. (source).
Then why on earth has nature designed us with arms attached to the top of the spine? To not pick up anything? :D
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HEAVY squats are shit
squats (preferably front) with a minimum of 15 reps is where its at
15 rep frontsquats, haha great advice.
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Reason # 6
The structure of the spine does not suggest that it is suited for top heavy loads. (source).
Then why on earth has nature designed us with arms attached to the top of the spine? To not pick up anything? :D
we are supposed to be monkeys
walking on your hands and swinging from the branches
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Squats are a great exercise that give you a great workout even if you choose to not do anything else for the remainder of the session.
I'm surprised Halo is anti-squats considering he built great quads naturally thanks to regular squating sessions.
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Squats are a great exercise that give you a great workout even if you choose to not do anything else for the remainder of the session.
I'm surprised Halo is anti-squats considering he built great quads naturally thanks to regular squating sessions.
yes but maybe i could have built them on the leg extenshon just as good if not better
i'm just scared of wheel chair land like ronald coleman
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yes but maybe i could have built them on the leg extenshon just as good if not better
i'm just scared of wheel chair land like ronald coleman
I think Coleman is the type of person who probably lifted heavy even when going through niggling injuries. We haven't seen every workout of his so we still don't know many of the things he could have attempted in the gym which may have caused the problems.
I think if you lift smartly, give your body a break from time to time and avoid ego training, you shouldn't have any issues.
Squatting can even prevent injuries in the long run due to the power it helps develop and the strengthening of bone.
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This is the man to hear about whether to or not to squat:
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/78ab2f06de12d410c1b8/lareport2014-teil-9-die-haxen-muessen-wachsen-zitat-david-doyouevensquat-rs-sexualhealing
Whach and learn.
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Tell this to a 54yo fella I know who's a powerlifter, and has been doing that for the last 30+ years. Not a single injury and his poundages are still insane. I've been quatting for the last 10+ years, never go insane weights, just merely below my max effort, good to go, a great overall exercise.
BTW - goos luck at achieving "dat ass" without squats. Sometimes I see guys with good quads, but flat pancake butt.. not a good look.
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Heavy squats atrophy triceps too apparently.
I have heard that squatting leads to global warming.
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it probably boils down to genetics. take athletes in proper sports, you get some that can go their entire career without a serious injury then you get others that are injured more than they're not.
if you have genetically fragile tendons/ligaments/cartilage don't bother squatting or doing anything else too strenuous.
This.
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Only a big girl's blouse complains about doing to squats.
Dorian used to squat all the time, I havent the slightest were the idea he failed to arose from.
Speak English or I'll smack you in the mouth, thanks.
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Makes u wonder when he talked about Ghana....most gyms outdoors in the sand...guys lifting pieces of iron...wooden benches....no supps...no fancy machines...and great physiques.
We're some delusional mofo's sometimes in this country...making basic resistance training like brain surgery ::)
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Makes u wonder when he talked about Ghana....most gyms outdoors in the sand...guys lifting pieces of iron...wooden benches....no supps...no fancy machines...and great physiques.
We're some delusional mofo's sometimes in this country...making basic resistance training like brain surgery ::)
yes seen a couple of videos of guys lifting home made weights.. some amazing physiques.
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Speak English or I'll smack you in the mouth, thanks.
Big Dumbbell feels Joon-ish.
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67:40 Another reason why I hate commercial gyms.....Dude on the bench pres repping 65 pounds.
Dude stay in your fvcking office /dormitory and do pushups.That goes for the gumby's doing shadow boxing,rope jumping,tai chi moves in the mirror,using the squat racks for over head presses with nickels on the bar,morons doing pushups taking up floor space...I'll take my garage and power rack in my mirrorless silent garage anyday !
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67:40 Another reason why I hate commercial gyms.....Dude on the bench pres repping 65 pounds.
Dude stay in your fvcking office /dormitory and do pushups.That goes for the gumby's doing shadow boxing,rope jumping,tai chi moves in the mirror,using the squat racks for over head presses with nickels on the bar,morons doing pushups taking up floor space...I'll take my garage and power rack in my mirrorless silent garage anyday !
Always good to have some kit at home. I would like a power rack but i have squat stands. Of course a rack is much more versatile.
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@ 75:30 who told the dude to only do 1/64th rom calf raises ??
Also wheres the dude who throws the 40 pound dumbells into the air after his monster set of dumbell inclines?
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Scrolled down and seen the photo of the fag who wrote the article and decided nothing he writes is ever worth reading so haven't a clue what he wrote.
If the squat wasn't such a great excercise you wouldn't get articles like this written by fags going to great lengths to justify not doing them. They wouldn't need to go to lengths to discredit it if it sucked like they say.
Although I do agree they are not for everyone, if your training for bodybuilding and cannot squat without spreading your stance out wide and excessive forward lean there are more productive exercises out there for these types
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its hard enough to get to the gym as it is when you finally get there you dont want too much hassle, legpress might be easier but its a lot of work to get all those weightplates on it so squats might be preferable
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"Anthony Dream Johnson", I was expecting a black dude, and I get this -
(http://www.thedreamlounge.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/34351_465145058311_510388311_6231454_4437875_n.jpg).
I feel like Drexl when he finds out who Clarence Worley is....
So, it ISN'T white-boy day?
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Hip belts are uncomfortable. I've always wanted to try one of those Frank Zane Leg Blasters.
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Nope.
Here is how they squat in Zero G.
(http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/iss038e041406-580x527.jpg)
Expedition 38/39 astronaut Koichi Wakata (Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency) uses the advanced Resistive Exercise Device (aRED) in the Tranquility node of the International Space Station in February 2014. Credit: NASA
wtf r they doing? They are going to the moon and bring a fucking gym along haha. Ony thing they need is strong rubberband. How hard can it be??? This is pure fucking stupidity!
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I like the Zane leg blaster but not for $650.00 :-\
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http://danjohn.net/the-overhead-squat-article/
THE OVERHEAD SQUAT ARTICLE
Your author, Dan John, at 43
Okay, there are two reasons I remember May 21, 1988. The first, in case my wife is reading this, is that we celebrated our one-week wedding anniversary on this day. The second relates to the single greatest athletic learning experience of my career.
Coach Ralph Maughan of Utah State University was retiring as head track coach. For the record, he had made the Olympics as a hammer thrower, played professional football with the Detroit Lions, and won a Purple Heart at the Battle of the Bulge in World War II. I know, I know, other than that, what has he done? Well, …
After five decades of coaching at Utah State, Coach Maughan was retiring. His family organized a very fitting tribute: a surprise track meet. Utah State had developed champions in the hurdles, 800 meters, pole vault, shot put, and hammer but the program was noted, worldwide, for discus throwing. At this tribute meet, alumni from all over the United States and Canada returned. The discus throw had former world record holders, national collegiate champs, Olympians from two nations, and hosts of league champs. Every alumnus had reached at least 180 feet/55 meters in the discus and the roll call neared two dozen.
Standing around between throws, we had all decided to do shot, disc and hammer no matter what the age on the driver’s license said, I had a chance to talk with half of century of throwing excellence. It was a chance to dispel myths and respond to rumors. Glenn Passey, who set the national record at 190’9″, weighing only 174 pounds, had attained mythological status among the others. The story that had been going around is that he never lifted weights.
“Is that true?” “Well,” Glenn answered, “I didn’t lift weights like you guys do now. I just did the Olympic Lifts all winter, you know, Clean and Press, Snatch, and Jerk. In the summers, I threw hay up into lofts for eight hours a day.” The Olympic Lifts all winter and hay tossing (Dino-style if you wish) sounds like a perfect training program for a thrower.
Other athletes talked about the importance of quarter squats (squats in a rack doing just the top portion of the lift), putting weights over head “any way you want, doesn’t matter, just do ‘em,” and the importance of staying away from more than three sessions in the weight room a week. One of the “young” guys, Chris Hatch, a 200 foot hammer thrower and 60 foot shot putter but still in his twenties, and I discussed lifting.
“I would only do one exercise, if I could do it all over again,” Chris told me. “Really? Which one?” “Overhead Squats.” I thought he was joking. Sure, I had done a few and I thought they never really amounted to anything. “This coach in California won’t let his guys throw until they can do fifteen reps with bodyweight.” What? Fifteen? “It makes you one piece, an animal.”
Monday found me in the weight room. I thought I would just “toss” in a few overheads, just to see what he was talking about. I knew I had to do a few warm ups, so I tossed a 45 on each side of the bar. I thought I would knock off a quick ten or so. I went to the rack, stepped back and let my hands slide out to the inside collars (at just over six feet tall, this is my usual snatch grip), then push jerked the weight up to arms length. Locking my elbows and really trying to pull the bar apart while holding it straight over my head, I sank between my knees, dropped to rock bottom and came back up.
I thought: “Huh? Most not be warmed up enough.” Rep two. “Woah.” Rep three. Aren’t my legs stronger than this? What I was discovering was that the overhead squat requires total concentration, total lockout and perfect positions. There is no cheating; one can’t squirm, roll the knees or hips, or let other body parts help kick in. It builds “Dad Strength.”
When my friends and I used to lift the old six foot bar with cement filled weights, we all thought we were pretty strong. Then, Dad would ask us to help him move a car engine or open a rusted jar of nuts and bolts, or put the ping pong table up on a rack for storage. Yes, I was the strongest kid in the four-house area, but every Dad had that scary kind of strength that allows one to pick an engine out of a Pontiac station wagon and carry it to the lawn.
Overhead squats build that kind of strength. For an athlete, it turns your body into “one piece.” Unfortunately, for the past few years, misguided athletes have been taught to do upper body one day, lower body another. Or worse, front of the thighs one day and back of the thighs another. One day soon, people will be asked to train the muscles that pull the left thigh in, then rest that overfatigued muscle for the next 21 days. Wait, you’re right. It is already happening.
I got five reps and the bar started to move and shake too much for safety. I bent my knees, unlocked my arms, slowed the bar down a little with my upper body and caught the bar on the back of my shoulders using my legs like shock absorbers. I then realized the wisdom of fifteen reps with bodyweight in this exercise. First, you can’t fake it. Nobody, NOBODY, just walks in and does this without training hard and steady. The ability to do this standard can only come from hard, steady work. Hard work, although some may deny this, is the number one factor in success in sports and life. Second, the athlete must be balanced in both senses of the word. Certainly, the ability to steady the bar overhead is a balance exercise. Throwers need excellent balance, but so do Highland Games participants, Olympic Lifters, and every other athlete. One needs balance, too, in the sense of the upper body and the lower body need to be able to work in symphony do those fifteen reps. Lots of guys, unfortunately, squat what they bench. You just can’t do that with this drill.
Third, the athlete who completes this task will have strong, flexible legs. You can send your athletes to all the yoga classes in the world, but the overhead squat develops athletic flexibility. As for leg strength, that is the only way to get out of the whole in this exercise. You can’t lean forward, twist, bounce or cheat in anyway. The bar will come off the top and you will have to start again. Maybe next week.
So, overhead squats became a staple in my athletic diet and coaching method. Pretty soon, other coaches began asking questions. “How can that skinny sophomore (Paul Northway weighed 155) throw the discus 182 feet?” I wanted to answer: “Brilliant coaching,” but Paul chimed in “overhead squats.” He explained that it “held him together throughout the throw.” Later, he would throw 214 as a senior.
Paul Northway as a Senior, during this workout he dropped ten throws over 190 feet. Another young man wanted to be a football player. He had no racks at home and his football coach wouldn’t let him lift free weights at school, I kid you not. So, he would Power Snatch the weight and do an Overhead Squat. Soon, he started rushing for over a hundred yards a game. In the off-season, away from his enlightened coaches who were having them lift five days a week on a bodybuilding program, he did what he called “The Exercise,” a power snatch followed by an overhead squat, usually in sets of five. He just finished his junior college career as the league’s leading rusher. He has been highly recruited and I hope he finds a University that allows him to lift in the school’s facilities rather than having to hide behind closed doors.
So, what did I learn on May 21, 1988? Five decades of champions seemed to agree on a few points regarding the weight room. First, train the whole body. Although lifting fashion tends to come and go, overall the successful throwers used whole body exercises. Cleans, snatches, squats, and many variations of overhead lifts were the fundamental movements of this group of athletes. Second, train, at most, three days a week in the weight room, IF you are a thrower. There may be times and reasons one can spend more time in the gym, but be sure you have a good reason. Universally, this group found that too many days in the weight led to injuries and staleness. Coach Maughan noted that any more than three days a week and the athlete is just fooling around every day in the weight room. If you train hard three days a week, you won’t be sneaking in the other four days. You’ll be recovering. Third, take Chris Hatch’s advice and try the Overhead Squat. You will wonder if you ever lifted before. For a beginner, try the bar for a few sets and make sure there is nothing breakable near the platform.
Your author, Dan John, at 19. If only I knew then…
I had been lifting for eighteen years when I “discovered” the Overhead Squat. It took a few more years to get it right in my training and coaching. The results have been phenomenal. Just when I thought I knew it all in lifting, the Overhead Squat came into my life. That was twelve years ago. Now, I am convinced I know it all.
Except, the other day, I was talking to this guy about one-handed lifts. ” I never do ‘em,” I said. He said: “If I could do it all over again, …”
Until next time.
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This is the man to hear about whether to or not to squat:
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/78ab2f06de12d410c1b8/lareport2014-teil-9-die-haxen-muessen-wachsen-zitat-david-doyouevensquat-rs-sexualhealing
Whach and learn.
phenomenal squatter but let's be honest
platz is fucking crazy
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Tell this to a 54yo fella I know who's a powerlifter, and has been doing that for the last 30+ years. Not a single injury and his poundages are still insane. I've been quatting for the last 10+ years, never go insane weights, just merely below my max effort, good to go, a great overall exercise.
BTW - goos luck at achieving "dat ass" without squats. Sometimes I see guys with good quads, but flat pancake butt.. not a good look.
“But I’ve squatted for many years with no injuries” : says the turkey. Well here’s a quote from The Black Swan for the turkeys of the world.
Consider that the turkey’s experience may have, rather than no value, a negative value. It learned from observation, as we are all advised to do (hey, after all, this is what is believed to be the scientific method). Its confidence increased as the number of friendly feedings grew, and it felt increasingly safe even though the slaughter was more and more imminent. Consider that the feeling of safety reached its maximum when the risk was at the highest!
That last part is especially important for the “experienced” trainee aiming for a personal record, or even just “squatting heavy” on a given day.
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phenomenal squatter but let's be honest
platz is fucking crazy
From your pictures your legs are not very impressive they would look a lot better if you squat.
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From your pictures your legs are not very impressive they would look a lot better if you squat.
::)
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From your pictures your legs are not very impressive they would look a lot better if you squat.
still thinking i am trying to get the permabulkers
i am trying to get the chocolate women
stupid homo
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still thinking i am trying to get the permabulkers
i am trying to get the chocolate women
stupid homo
Surprised you train your legs at all.
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squatting is for people that enjoy going up and down one has to wonder why that range of motion is so important to them
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Surprised you train your legs at all.
now and then
dont wanna get them too big
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squatting is for people that enjoy going up and down one has to wonder why that range of motion is so important to them
Haha
Yes this does make one pause and consider their intent now that I think about it :D
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Long ago I realized barbell squat doesn't train my arms so I scratched it off the list
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For all you big arm chicken legs freaks who dont want to squat its fine just dont let me catch you curling at the squat rack or I will embarrass your ass in front of the gym.
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A real man who squats step on the dance floor in da club with these quads and the women go crazy.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5464/7052435803_f6e0b4d834_o.jpg)
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big quads just make your package looks smaller = fail
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Halo when you mentioned your hips cracking and stuff is that a sign of hip impingement? I notice the right side of my hip pops too if I bring my leg up high enough and back down, but Im not sure if its from being a breaststroker when I was swimming. The kick puts a lot of pressure on the knees and hips :-\
I also was on a program squatting 3 times a week but I think I felt better doing that tbh
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now and then
dont wanna get them too big
Those are very good legs. I agree about leg size. Wouldn't get them really any bigger then what you have them. I would love mine to be even 3/4 that size
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I like the Zane leg blaster but not for $650.00 :-\
I know. A little expensive. I've tried to get the gym owner to buy one for years. The best I could get was a safety squat bar.
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Making fun of someone's physical appearance is something an adolescent does.
I remember when I was going through puberty...
(http://1000awesomethings.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/crying_baby.jpg)
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Get lost, "the stink."
Not here to associate with a pretty boy queer like you anyways so don't even address me ???
Now go compliment your favorite butt buddy posters' tan lines or gleaming lips like you constantly you arrogant phag.
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(http://1000awesomethings.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/crying_baby.jpg)
So hows your dying son anyways halo?
Do you need a real father to step in and show you how to cultivate manhood?
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So hows your dying son anyways halo?
Do you need a real father to step in and show you how to cultivate manhood?
I'm not Halo, you buttfucking faggot.
Hah, but yes, you have shown yourself to be a real standup dude... letting an anonymous poster on a bodybuilding website melt you down to point of mentioning sick children.
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I'm not Halo, you buttfucking faggot.
Hah, but yes, you have shown yourself to be a real standup dude... letting an anonymous poster on a bodybuilding website melt you down to point of mentioning sick children.
Buttfucking homo lol who is doing the melting down here. And you post pictures of people out of anger , ultimate melting..
And you change dying to sick in order to lighten the seriousness of the kids condition , because it is you , now why else would you do that. Stop the madness.
You're nothing but a tyrannical bully.
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big quads just make your package looks smaller = fail
Counterpoint: big legs push your genitals out, making the "bulge" more prominent in clothes.
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Not here to associate with a pretty boy queer like you anyways so don't even address me ???
Now go compliment your favorite butt buddy posters' tan lines or gleaming lips like you constantly you arrogant phag.
From now on you will be known as: TheStink.
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8)
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Counterpoint: big legs push your genitals out, making the "bulge" more prominent in clothes.
Any pics of this? :-X
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So hows your dying son anyways halo?
Do you need a real father to step in and show you how to cultivate manhood?
a lot better than you since he's not a deformed gollem
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Halo when you mentioned your hips cracking and stuff is that a sign of hip impingement? I notice the right side of my hip pops too if I bring my leg up high enough and back down, but Im not sure if its from being a breaststroker when I was swimming. The kick puts a lot of pressure on the knees and hips :-\
I also was on a program squatting 3 times a week but I think I felt better doing that tbh
Hip impingement Brah checking in, I actually had surgery to fix my left side 2 months ago before I ended up like King Ronnie or Dave Tate in the metal hip club.
you get popping, cracking, maybe pain, catching, cant rotate your leg in if its bad
could be a labrum tear , or both - hip impingement makes you much more likely to tear a labrum
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Ronnie did them. Thread restarted.
Didn''t Ronnie just have a double hip replacement.
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Buttfucking homo lol who is doing the melting down here. And you post pictures of people out of anger , ultimate melting..
And you change dying to sick in order to lighten the seriousness of the kids condition , because it is you , now why else would you do that. Stop the madness.
You're nothing but a tyrannical bully.
I didnt call you a homo, I called you a faggot.
And are you prince dianabols doctor? do you know the prognosis? halo has said that he is sick, not that he is dying. you're a straight up piece of dog shit for even bringing that up out of spite.
tyrannical bully, oh brother. its the internet. I would never use things in real life against you here... i bust your balls over things you say on here, not how much of a cuckold you are in real life.
I bet you would be the kind of guy to hire black dudes off craigslist to gangbang your wife while you watch jerkin' your kid-dick.
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I believe one major reason that non-squatters often hate on guys who squat is that squatting when trained in a serious manner, being with heavy weights, legit form and on a proper program, well is about as challenging a training experience as one can put himself thru and because of that some do get the "hardcore" stigma to them but rightfully so, I mean if you're going to put yourself thru that then you have earned the that right.
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Which leads to many of the lazy bodybuilder types feeling insecure and butt hurt because then their notion of being hardcore aka wearing certain clothing or grunting excessively while doing tricep kick backs is then diminished and lessened.
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I like the squat because it works the whole body as a single unit in a natural way.
If you are concerned about injuries and joints etc, you can use lighter weights by making the squat harder such as placing the bar high on the traps, narrow stance, pausing at rock bottom, no resting at the top, high reps, low rest between sets, pyramiding down in weight, etc.
Even with light weight, most squatters don't know the right way to do the lift, nor how to work mobility programming into their routines. I didn't hire a professional coach until I was in my 30th year of lifting and what a difference! That said, I am still injuring myself every 6 weeks with squats, so I have all but abandoned them.
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is there any scientific evidence that we need compound movements at all
wouldnt your legs look the same with leg extensions and leg curls?
who dares to question ?
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is there any scientific evidence that we need compound movements at all
wouldnt your legs look the same with leg extensions and leg curls?
who dares to question ?
Yes they would if you did them intensely enough, the quads extend the leg and the leg bicep pulls the ankle to your arse.
Thats their function, do these movements under resistance and they will grow.
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phenomenal squatter but let's be honest
platz is fucking crazy
The guy has a strange personality yes but i have improved my squat tecnique a lot with his advice concerning lower back verticality. Feet facing outwards and more stance thand shoulder width.
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The guy has a strange personality yes but i have improved my squat tecnique a lot with his advice concerning lower back verticality. Feet facing outwards and more stance thand shoulder width.
of course
his squat technique is the way i squat too
this is the only way to squat unless u a homo
powerlifting squats is all hip extension the quads dont do much
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Didn''t Ronnie just have a double hip replacement.
Fuck off.
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Great post
Watch Coach and Co try and demolish it.
I blew out my lower back a few times trying to squat deep and heavy.
Guess what? It never helped give me obtain bigger, better legs.
Combined with heavy deadlifts, squats gave me a damaged low back and permanent arthritis in my sacrum/sacroiliac area .
3 yrs ago, after many painful years of squats, I dropped the exercise for good . I am making BETTER leg gains with other safer movements.
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I blew out my lower back a few times trying to squat deep and heavy.
Guess what? It never helped give me obtain bigger, better legs.
Combined with heavy deadlifts, squats gave me a damaged low back and permanent arthritis in my sacrum/sacroiliac area .
3 yrs ago, after many painful years of squats, I dropped the exercise for good . I am making BETTER leg gains with other safer movements.
That's because you're a giant pussy.
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the only arguements by the "pro squat movement" in this thread are basically
"you gotta squat otherwise ur a pussy"
talk about insecure retards
doing a stupid exercise just because uncle rippetoe told them he will fuck them in the boypussy if they dont
basically
lol
also some insane claims that "it's a natural movement" and "it works the body like a unit"
which are the furthest thing from the truth
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good posts from halo and howard here.
and if that are your legs halo there is no reason to start squatting if you can achive that without squatting in fact people should get that level of leg development and maybe then consider squatting if theyre not happy with that size but i bet most would be
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good posts from halo and howard here.
and if that are your legs halo there is no reason to start squatting if you can achive that without squatting in fact people should get that level of leg development and maybe then consider squatting if theyre not happy with that size but i bet most would be
i did do a lot of back squats, front squats, and squat cleans over the course of 10 years
when i started roiding, i abandon the movement pretty much and trade it for leg press and some hacksquat machine
but i basically built the legs when natural, i never really push the legs much since getting on the juice because i dont really care so much
so it's hard to say if my legs would have looked like this or not without squats
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the only arguements by the "pro squat movement" in this thread are basically
"you gotta squat otherwise ur a pussy"
talk about insecure retards
doing a stupid exercise just because uncle rippetoe told them he will fuck them in the boypussy if they dont
basically
lol
also some insane claims that "it's a natural movement" and "it works the body like a unit"
which are the furthest thing from the truth
You seem to be taking this to heart, perhaps a big squatter at the gym made you feel less than? Anyways, some people like to perform movements that really challenge them, not only physically but mentally as well. I for one wouldn't even be able to drag myself to the gym if I were to only do leg extensions or something similar, has nothing to do with ripptoe or anyone else.
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That's because you're a giant pussy.
Yup, no question about that along with squats being ineffective.
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I used to be staunchly against squatting for many many years. Until very recent where I started training again. I really started all over again. I had 15+ years training under my belt but in truth, I got bored of all the fancy little curls and machine training. Now I do 5 exercises only. Squats, Bench, Deads, Barbell Press and Bicep Curls. Well, and the calf machine but very rarely.
I'd say since I started squatting again my knees are actually in BETTER shape than ever. No more cracking or popping when getting off the ground. My legs feel stronger, I AM stronger and enjoying training again. I've left ego training behind in the 90s so I only squat what I can handle safely and don't risk injury.
If done properly, I can't see why it's bad for you.
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I blew out my lower back a few times trying to squat deep and heavy.
Guess what? It never helped give me obtain bigger, better legs.
Combined with heavy deadlifts, squats gave me a damaged low back and permanent arthritis in my sacrum/sacroiliac area .
3 yrs ago, after many painful years of squats, I dropped the exercise for good . I am making BETTER leg gains with other safer movements.
Ego training.
Try using weights you can handle safely and you'll never have an issue.
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That's because you're a giant pussy.
Howard looks 100% better than you. 8)
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Dorian never did them. End of thread.
He did them during his younger years. Injuries forced him to do other exercises which he found to work better for him.
This is no different than the whole hulabaloo over Bob Chicherillo and his "Squats Suck" and "Butchering Sacred Cows" articles from the early 2000s.
As the saying goes, "One man's poison is another man's meat." As Dorian said in that MD video, squats are a great overall exercise and (for some) an awesome leg builder. They just weren't great for him.
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I get better results from leg press than squats, no question.
The only reason that I will do squats is if I feel lazy and don't feel like loading the leg press with 15 plates per side.
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He did them during his younger years. Injuries forced him to do other exercises which he found to work better for him.
This is no different than the whole hulabaloo over Bob Chicherillo and his "Squats Suck" and "Butchering Sacred Cows" articles from the early 2000s.
As the saying goes, "One man's poison is another man's meat." As Dorian said in that MD video, squats are a great overall exercise and (for some) an awesome leg builder. They just weren't great for him.
Though Dorian Yates did say that he got most of his leg development from squats in his earlier years.
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Ego training.
Try using weights you can handle safely and you'll never have an issue.
Bingo, learn how to squat olympic style with a barely loaded bar, ass to grass, no momentum, with a pause at the bottom of each rep, torso upright and back arched the whole way. Then load the bar only enough so you can do 12 reps for 3 sets with no momentum. No way you will injure yourself with that type of reasonable lifting, and you will hit quads, posterior chain and back even. Try it.
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I think a lot of people who find squatting uncomfortable or find it injured them or was a useless motion didn't have, not to their fault, the body made to squat.
guys who have good squats will know what I'm talking about. flexible hips. good balance. joints (not just knee) that are pliable but still maintain strength.
imo if you have flexible hips your made to squat. if your body is too rigid it's going to an uncomfortable movement and hurt you.
someone w a good squat can stand in a rack regardless of the weight on his back and be completely comfortable thru the entire range of motion.
if you want a good test if you are made to squat take a relatively heavy weight and very slowy descend. if at any point thru the descent you start to pitch forward or roll your back stay away from the movement. guys w the right hips can lower a great deal of weight very very slowly and have their hips move properly enough to be comfortable thru the entire range of motion ass to floor.
imo a good squat is all abt how flexible your hips are. I'm not a squat fan for most people as they can't open up their hips enough to do the motion properly.
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I think a lot of people who find squatting uncomfortable or find it injured them or was a useless motion didn't have, not to their fault, the body made to squat.
guys who have good squats will know what I'm talking about. flexible hips. good balance. joints (not just knee) that are pliable but still maintain strength.
imo if you have flexible hips your made to squat. if your body is too rigid it's going to an uncomfortable movement and hurt you.
someone w a good squat can stand in a rack regardless of the weight on his back and be completely comfortable thru the entire range of motion.
if you want a good test if you are made to squat take a relatively heavy weight and very slowy descend. if at any point thru the descent you start to pitch forward or roll your back stay away from the movement. guys w the right hips can lower a great deal of weight very very slowly and have their hips move properly enough to be comfortable thru the entire range of motion ass to floor.
imo a good squat is all abt how flexible your hips are.
Good post.
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Good post.
Ty sir.
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actually it's about ankle flexibility
common sense really
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Yes, nobody ever got hurt doing leg press or belted hip squats. ::) The lengths people will go to to avoid an exercise is comedic.
The above reply is comedic too, because you look like you avoid exercising altogether.
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You probably are not putting the bar in the correct place for your build if that is the case.
Ideal placement you should not feel a thing on your lower back or neck. Try putting the bar at the base of the traps, resting on the rear delt area.
Can i point out one thing?
You have skeleton legs, it does not matter what you say, which study you cite, you are a poor representative of the team squat.
Sure, all the others are fat pigs who think doing 5 sets of 30% ROM "squats" is heavy training, but in your case, it's just grotesque.
Your legs are only good to advertise wheelchairs.
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Can i point out one thing?
You have skeleton legs, it does not matter what you say, which study you cite, you are a poor representative of the team squat.
Sure, all the others are fat pigs who think doing 5 sets of 30% ROM "squats" is heavy training, but in your case, it's just grotesque.
Your legs are only good to advertise wheelchairs.
lol
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lol
I know, this will sound like i am joking, but he might very well be the first person on the planet who managed to get his leg muscle smaller than at starting point, after years of training.
LOL
"A leg is a leg", i guess:-)
Have you people heard about that new female fashion fad?
They call it thigh gap.
Adonis has the thigh gap look, but is a "bodybuilder".
This goes way past the argument squats vs no squats(just do whatever makes your legs look the way you want them to look).
What we are confronted with here is a guy spotting a thigh gap, putting millions of females with eating disorders to shame.
And he is giving away his leg training......secrets(?) hahhaha
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I know, this will sound like i am joking, but he might very well be the first person on the planet who managed to get his leg muscle smaller than at starting point, after years of training.
LOL
"A leg is a leg", i guess:-)
Have you people heard about that new female fashion fad?
They call it thigh gap.
Adonis has the thigh gap look, but is a "bodybuilder".
This goes way past the argument squats vs no squats(just do whatever makes your legs look the way you want them to look).
What we are confronted with here is a guy spotting a thigh gap, putting millions of females with eating disorders to shame.
And he is giving away his leg training......secrets(?) hahhaha
i have thought these thoughts when seeing his legs
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The real reason why guys don't squat has nothing to do with injuries. Squatting is hard work and most avoid hard work. Most guys love lying on a padded bed pushing a weight then do a couple curls calling it a day.
But what happens if they develop better legs than you do?
You kkuunt will say they must be all drugs.
Do the world a favor and stick your sweeping generalizations in to your anal cavity in one of the rare seconds when it's not occupied by your boyfriends penis or sperm or finger.
I gather you must be a hard worker in the gym and all that, so please show me the benefits of your ways haha, where is the picture of your "wheels"
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i have thought these thoughts when seeing his legs
Because it is obvious, it is the very first thing coming to mind.
The second thought is, maybe both upper leg bones are broken.
He is a pioneer in that aspect, ahead of the times, and the female world isn't even aware yet, lol.
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Ronnie did them. Thread restarted.
Tell that to his new hip, fattie.
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67:40 Another reason why I hate commercial gyms.....Dude on the bench pres repping 65 pounds.
Dude stay in your fvcking office /dormitory and do pushups.That goes for the gumby's doing shadow boxing,rope jumping,tai chi moves in the mirror,using the squat racks for over head presses with nickels on the bar,morons doing pushups taking up floor space...I'll take my garage and power rack in my mirrorless silent garage anyday !
You are so old school and hard, bro.
Why don't you simply mind your own business,nobody gives a shit.
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67:40 Another reason why I hate commercial gyms.....Dude on the bench pres repping 65 pounds.
Dude stay in your fvcking office /dormitory and do pushups.That goes for the gumby's doing shadow boxing,rope jumping,tai chi moves in the mirror,using the squat racks for over head presses with nickels on the bar,morons doing pushups taking up floor space...I'll take my garage and power rack in my mirrorless silent garage anyday !
;D ;D ;D ;D
those fucking 5-3-1, 5x5 startin strength twinks
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I think a lot of people who find squatting uncomfortable or find it injured them or was a useless motion didn't have, not to their fault, the body made to squat.
guys who have good squats will know what I'm talking about. flexible hips. good balance. joints (not just knee) that are pliable but still maintain strength.
imo if you have flexible hips your made to squat. if your body is too rigid it's going to an uncomfortable movement and hurt you.
someone w a good squat can stand in a rack regardless of the weight on his back and be completely comfortable thru the entire range of motion.
if you want a good test if you are made to squat take a relatively heavy weight and very slowy descend. if at any point thru the descent you start to pitch forward or roll your back stay away from the movement. guys w the right hips can lower a great deal of weight very very slowly and have their hips move properly enough to be comfortable thru the entire range of motion ass to floor.
imo a good squat is all abt how flexible your hips are. I'm not a squat fan for most people as they can't open up their hips enough to do the motion properly.
99% of the people will get instability issues at a certain weight and point during the motion.
The other 1% are the elite.
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What about deadlifts?
FUCK SQUATS, ME NO LIKE.
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Yup, no question about that along with squats being ineffective.
Not sure where you're coming up with that. Maybe you never learned to squat properly. Maybe your ego thought you could go heavier than you really could. Maybe your set/reps were wrong. Maybe they were just ineffective for YOU. Maybe you already had that in your head. Maybe you didn't squat enough. But as a whole, saying that squatting is ineffective is a load of shit.
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is there any scientific evidence that we need compound movements at all
wouldnt your legs look the same with leg extensions and leg curls?
who dares to question ?
Yes...but you'll have little luck finding a study targeted for bodybuilding. So you have to use commonsense when reading other related studies.
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who needs squats anyway
You do. They look conditioned but you have no size. Remedy - Squat.
If you were compared on stage in a line up they'd mark you down for thigh gap.
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You do. They look conditioned but you have no size. Remedy - Squat.
If you were compared on stage in a line up they'd make you down for thigh gap.
haha i knew either you or the trainer would say that
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I find it interesting that many of the same folks that are happy to proclaim that certain movements can cause injury and should be avoided (behind the neck press, etc) are the same folks that say, "squat, period"
For some folks, squatting isn't worth the injury risk. Squats are not absolute.
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The ability or lack of it to perform squats has a lot to do with bone lenghts/proportions.
My femur is 2 inches shorter than my tibia so squats are easy for me. Going all the way down only feels easier to me.
Is femur lenght is greater than tibia and spinal cord an athlete will strugle to go near paralel without a couple of bricks in the heels.
Squats are not for everybody.
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The ability or lack of it to perform cock squats has a lot to do with cock length/proportion.
My cock is 2 inches shorter than my boyfriends so cock squats are easy for me. Going all the way down only feels easier to me.
His cock length is greater than mine and any anal passage will struggle to go near full length without a couple of dabs of lube.
Big cocks are not for everybody.
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So hows your dying son anyways halo?
Do you need a real father to step in and show you how to cultivate gargle manhood?
:)
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LOL :D ;D
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Nice imagination.
Does my name falco triggers your brain into phallus/phallic thoughts or are you just obcessed with male genitalia?
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You do. They look conditioned but you have no size. Remedy - Squat.
If you were compared on stage in a line up they'd mark you down for thigh gap.
LOLOLOLc
Halo has the best quads of anyone in this thread, by far. except bigRo,who is am elite BBer on pro cycles/
your legs never came close to his.
people seriously need to post a pic, or shut the fuck up.
Squats. they are an exercise. period. fucking dogmatic imbeciles think they are something special, LOL
and you'll notice, the people having a stroke and calling you a "pussy" if you don't squat...are the genetic have-nots. the only gratification they receive from lifting weights is being "hardcore" and poundage.
who fucking cares.
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LOLOLOLc
Halo has the best quads of anyone in this thread, by far. except bigRo,who is am elite BBer on pro cycles/
your legs never came close to his.
people seriously need to post a pic, or shut the fuck up.
Squats. they are an exercise. period. fucking dogmatic imbeciles think they are something special, LOL
and you'll notice, the people having a stroke and calling you a "pussy" if you don't squat...are the genetic have-nots. the only gratification they receive from lifting weights is being "hardcore" and poundage.
who fucking cares.
;D
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I'm taking a break now from weights and focusing on body-weight exercises.
This includes body-weights squats and after doing this exercise almost every day for the past few weeks all the little aches I had in my knees have disappeared.
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LOLOLOLc
Halo has the best quads of anyone in this thread, by far. except bigRo,who is am elite BBer on pro cycles/
your legs never came close to his.
people seriously need to post a pic, or shut the fuck up.
Squats. they are an exercise. period. fucking dogmatic imbeciles think they are something special, LOL
and you'll notice, the people having a stroke and calling you a "pussy" if you don't squat...are the genetic have-nots. the only gratification they receive from lifting weights is being "hardcore" and poundage.
who fucking cares.
Safe to assume 315 would crush you? :D
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Safe to assume 315 would crush you? :D
NASA studied Chaos' head when trying designs for re=entry into the atmosphere :D
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LOLOLOLc
Halo has the best quads of anyone in this thread, by far. except bigRo,who is am elite BBer on pro cycles/
your legs never came close to his.
people seriously need to post a pic, or shut the fuck up.
Squats. they are an exercise. period. fucking dogmatic imbeciles think they are something special, LOL
and you'll notice, the people having a stroke and calling you a "pussy" if you don't squat...are the genetic have-nots. the only gratification they receive from lifting weights is being "hardcore" and poundage.
who fucking cares.
They are special when done right. For one thing they stimulate proper deep breathing.
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10 reasons to barbell squat - prepare for meltdowns by the girly (wo)men...
1. Muscle
2. Strength
3. Explosive Power
4. Fitness
5. More Muscle
6. More Strength
7. More Explosive Power
8. More Fitness
9. Not a Fag
10. Not a Balding Zitty Juice Monkey Pumper
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i don't get what all the fuss is about. if you're able to squat then squat, if you find it a bit taxing or you're worried about breaking a nail or smudging your lipstick then just do something less demanding. no need to justify anything.
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LOLOLOLc
Halo has the best quads of anyone in this thread, by far. except bigRo,who is am elite BBer on pro cycles/
your legs never came close to his.
people seriously need to post a pic, or shut the fuck up.
Squats. they are an exercise. period. fucking dogmatic imbeciles think they are something special, LOL
and you'll notice, the people having a stroke and calling you a "pussy" if you don't squat...are the genetic have-nots. the only gratification they receive from lifting weights is being "hardcore" and poundage.
who fucking cares.
yes they do, of both legs. ;)
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Halos legs look great to me, plenty of size for that kind of conditioning
Team Squat-Or-Ur-A-Pussy should really post videos of their big ass legs repping at least 495 ATG to validate their opinions
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Team Squat-Or-Ur-A-Pussy should really post videos of their big ass legs repping at least 495 ATG to validate their opinions
Word.
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I've always squatted and it has been very beneficial for the sports I play. I have hurt myself doing them before, but it was ALWAYS when I was trying to squat too much weight. With the correct weight and good form I think you can remain injury free. They are very taxing to your whole body and if you really put the effort in you will be exhausted when done. This is the reason lazy bastards try and justify not doing them.
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http://www.thedreamlounge.net/barbell-squat/
Once upon a time I published a post on this blog titled “Barbell Squat : the Worst Exercise in Existence?”. As it turned out, barbell squat fanati fans were not pleased with this post.
In fact after they got done kindly telling me how upset they were with my ideas, they proceeded to link my post from the front page of every major “fitness” forum on the internet, so all of their buddies could join in on venting bottled up rage from early childhood abuse.
Excuse me, leaving entertaining and constructive comments on my blog for the betterment of mankind, care bears, and unicorns.
Okay, let’s get serious. This post is being produced because I’m not done criticizing the stupidity that is the illustrious, the worshiped, the magical, the super-natural, and our lord and savior, THE BARBELL SQUAT.
(In this post, I am specifically addressing the free-standing-barbell-back-squat, rack or no rack. Unless otherwise noted, front loaded barbell squats, belt squats, dumbbell squats, body weight squats, squats performed in a smith machine or similar device, etc, are excluded from this discussion).
Top Ten Reasons NOT to Barbell Squat
These are presented in no particular order, unless otherwise noted.
Reason # 1
The favorite, most highly touted exercise of the world’s dumbest men, is the barbell squat (500+ sources).
Reason # 2
The barbell squat requires “good form” they say, indicating that it is a skill (unlike say walking, which requires no measurable degree of skill for a normal human being, or a horizontal leg press which requires categorically less skill than a free standing barbell back squat – something grandma can do).
Well, skill based movement in a fatiguing and progressive protocol = a recipe for disaster. (source)
Reason # 3
Russian roulette with a multi-hundred pound barbell x 500,000 trigger pulls = someone getting hurt.
“But I’ve squatted for many years with no injuries” : says the turkey. Well here’s a quote from The Black Swan for the turkeys of the world.
Consider that the turkey’s experience may have, rather than no value, a negative value. It learned from observation, as we are all advised to do (hey, after all, this is what is believed to be the scientific method). Its confidence increased as the number of friendly feedings grew, and it felt increasingly safe even though the slaughter was more and more imminent. Consider that the feeling of safety reached its maximum when the risk was at the highest!
That last part is especially important for the “experienced” trainee aiming for a personal record, or even just “squatting heavy” on a given day.
Reason # 4
A barbell squatter’s ability to walk is one pulled muscle, one fallen eyelash, one “freak accident” away from being at immediate risk.
(The Wizard of Oz called by the way, he said the straw man is unavailable due to a medical emergency; something to do with a barbell and straw).
Reason # 5
There is an absolutely, definitively, and entirely better alternative to the barbell squat (all forms) : the little known hip belt squat. (Disclaimer : this is just a generic link to a website many will recognize. There are better sources of information on the hip belt squat available elsewhere).
Author and speaker Bill DeSimone has called this exercise “the most congruent lower body exercise conceivable”.
Reason # 6
The structure of the spine does not suggest that it is suited for top heavy loads. (source).
Reason # 7
The creators of the dictionary called me.
They said “The new definition of “wishful thinking” now includes the idea that the muscles surrounding the human spine track in accordance with the growth of the largest and strongest muscles and bones of the body”.
Reason # 8
There is nothing on earth to suggest that making your spine the “middle man” between a multi-hundred pound barbell, and your legs, is a particularly good, or even safe idea. (source)
Reason # 9
Looks like heavy squats can (and if it can go wrong, it will go wrong) cause nerve damage to the shoulders. (source and discussion).
Reason # 10
This is a redundant point, but it is worth repeating : the barbell squat is the most popular exercise on the planet among dip shit meat heads.
What in the world makes you think these people have good, sound ideas? I have no doubt many of these people are big and strong.
What I doubt is that there is anything going on upstairs. (source).
you could have just told the truth and said that you don't want to squat because you suck at it. And that getting better at it requires time, patience, focus, an absence of an inflated ego, and plain old hard work in the gym. but you chose to write this piece of shit post. the part about all strong men being stupid? love it. love how you tell yourself that. pure unadulterated garbage. i'll say what I always say to people like you, your squat probably sucks because you never took the time to learn how to do it right. show me a video of your squat. it's probably a mess from top to bottom.
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NASA studied Chaos' head when trying designs for re=entry into the atmosphere Groinks ego :D
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Walking DB lunges are the only "exercise" I have ever "injured" myself doing. I hadn't done them for a while and started with too heavy a weight and pulled something in my inner thigh (not a gay) right away.
Most injuries in weight training are the result of stupid / ignorant / preventable training errors in my opinion, not the fault of some structural shortcoming of the trainer or some inherently injurious aspect of the movement.
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I hit the gym for the second time this week. As part of my full body welcome back workout, I am doing squats with a barbell....no added weight for now, just the barbell. Anyway, I barely managed two sets of 25 reps using what I hope is perfect form. I was breathless after the first set and even more breathless after the second set. On Friday, I hope to manage three sets. Next week, I'll add some weight.
I had bronchial pneumonia this fall. I had no idea who much this affected my lung capacity until I did squats today. I've decided that squats are a real measure of overall health and strength. Despite my bum knee and wrecked sciatic nerve, I have every intention of continuing to squat until I fall over dead. Among other things, I don't want to develop a saggy 70 year old man's butt or puny wheels. LOL.
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I hit the gym for the second time this week. As part of my full body welcome back workout, I am doing squats with a barbell....no added weight for now, just the barbell. Anyway, I barely managed two sets of 25 reps using what I hope is perfect form. I was breathless after the first set and even more breathless after the second set. On Friday, I hope to manage three sets. Next week, I'll add some weight.
I had bronchial pneumonia this fall. I had no idea who much this affected my lung capacity until I did squats today. I've decided that squats are a real measure of overall health and strength. Despite my bum knee and wrecked sciatic nerve, I have every intention of continuing to squat until I fall over dead. Among other things, I don't want to develop a saggy 70 year old man's butt or puny wheels. LOL.
You're an odd one at times but you're a pretty cool 70 year old, still hitting the gym and training. Keep it up Prime.
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You're an odd one at times but you're a pretty cool 70 year old, still hitting the gym and training. Keep it up Prime.
Ha, ha, so I've been told....about being a bit of an odd duck. I'm okay with this, BTW. Thanks for the comment about being cool. I hope I am still hitting the gym on the day that I am finished with this life or this life is finished with me, however that works out. Can't think of a better way to end my time here except to be able to post about it on Getbig. ;D
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LOLOLOLc
Halo has the best quads of anyone in this thread, by far. except bigRo,who is am elite BBer on pro cycles/
your legs never came close to his.
people seriously need to post a pic, or shut the fuck up.
Squats. they are an exercise. period. fucking dogmatic imbeciles think they are something special, LOL
http://twitchy.com/2014/11/12/i-have-not-been-paid-sandra-fluke-campaigner-attempts-to-raise-her-wage/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
and you'll notice, the people having a stroke and calling you a "pussy" if you don't squat...are the genetic have-nots. the only gratification they receive from lifting weights is being "hardcore" and poundage.
who fucking cares.
No, his quads are Better conditioned with little size. Like i said. In a line up he would get dwarfed. I've always had a problem with getting my legs hard. Never had a problem with size. But if your going to be a dick about it. Neither you nor him could stand next to me on a bodybuilding stage. But I digress. Why do you think he only posts up close body part shots. Ask him to show a an onstage pic from a contest.
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Halos legs look great to me, plenty of size for that kind of conditioning
Team Squat-Or-Ur-A-Pussy should really post videos of their big ass legs repping at least 495 ATG to validate their opinions
This is at 90%. It's a 14" box squat. I'm 52 but never go beyond 5 reps.
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LOLOLOLc
Halo has the best quads of anyone in this thread, by far. except bigRo,who is am elite BBer on pro cycles/
your legs never came close to his.
people seriously need to post a pic, or shut the fuck up.
Squats. they are an exercise. period. fucking dogmatic imbeciles think they are something special, LOL
and you'll notice, the people having a stroke and calling you a "pussy" if you don't squat...are the genetic have-nots. the only gratification they receive from lifting weights is being "hardcore" and poundage.
who fucking cares.
"Your legs have never came that close"
Hope this helps. One at 21 another at 46...
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This is at 90%. It's a 14" box squat. I'm 52 but never go beyond 5 reps.
Camera work reminiscent of Cswol's famous pull up video
14" is above parallel for me so it must be a high chair for you
C- must try harder, Halo still in the lead.
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Camera work reminiscent of Cswol's famous pull up video
14" is above parallel for me so it must be a high chair for you
C- must try harder, Halo still in the lead.
Feel free to come in and squat with me. The box is 12" with another 2" of pad. If you can't make it, I invite anyone who's in the area. If you know me, you know I'm open and don't hide shit. Sorry, wife took the video. I don't keep professional videographers on the payroll.
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Camera work reminiscent of Cswol's famous pull up video
14" is above parallel for me so it must be a high chair for you
C- must try harder, Halo still in the lead.
Btw, if you don't box squat you have no idea how low you go. One of the benefits of doing a box squat is to insure depth. I'm not quiet sure you realize how low 14" is. A standard flat bench is 18".
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Btw, if you don't box squat you have no idea how low you go. One of the benefits of doing a box squat is to insure depth. I'm not quiet sure you realize how low 14" is. A standard flat bench is 18".
I've squatted 635 off a 14" box with no belt.
you can put the camera on a bench by the side of the rack when squatting for a better angle ???
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You're an odd one at times but you're a pretty cool 70 year old, still hitting the gym and training. Keep it up Prime.
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My dad is 70 and I couldn't imagine him hanging on getbig, so kudos
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Anyone ever use this? Great piece of Kit ...
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Hallo or what ever he is called is not fully wrong. The Leg extension does hit the Quads very well but to really hit it all you have to do it Gironda style. the Rectus Femoris ;). Lean back on your leg extensions. Gironda leaned forward then back Hitting all heads. There was method in the mans madness ;)
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"Your legs have never came that close"
Hope this helps. One at 21 another at 46...
actually your legs look good. I really don't have a problem admitting i misspoke.
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Btw, if you don't box squat you have no idea how low you go. One of the benefits of doing a box squat is to insure depth. I'm not quiet sure you realize how low 14" is. A standard flat bench is 18".
I use a small stool that probably is about 14" for box squats. Like you mentioned, it helps one measure how low they actually go. Currently, I don't need the stool because the resistance is really light. I just check to make sure I break parallel and I'm good to go. I did heavy squats for years, but never so heavy that I'd sacrifice good form. These days, going light is better and still produces a good pump.
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the problem I face like many bbers is that my calves suck and they will most likely always suck
honestly i can't wear shorts in public (well except the gym) during summer it just looks retarded
what I do is I never leave the gym unless I do something for calves. hit them every workout
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what I do is I never leave the gym unless I do something for calves. hit them every workout
Try using some actual weight next time.
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Yesterday was squat day. I couldn't resist. My apologies.
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Yesterday was squat day. I couldn't resist. My apologies.
X2 I did 10X10. A lot of getbiggers wouldn't even attempt that.
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X2 I did 10X10. A lot of getbiggers wouldn't even attempt that.
You must be a beast.
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X2 I did 10X10. A lot of getbiggers wouldn't even attempt that.
Sounds like a large and strong man to me.
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X2 I did 10X10. A lot of getbiggers wouldn't even attempt that.
Not possible.
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Funny, but it's "too", not "to".
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Funny, but it's "too", not "to".
No, it's "two."
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bluto aka "blew two"
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Funny, but it's "too", not "to".
Right, but Im not good enough on the pc to correct it. Just for a laugh its ok