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hey coach,....and DO NOT take offence to this or think I am being a dick
its just a question
how come you never embed youtube videos?
LOL...I don't take offence to that. I try to embed and used to be able to all the time. Something in the coding doesn't allow it. Some one said take the "s" out the http and I did that. Still didn't work so now I just paste the link.
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LOL...I don't take offence to that. I try to embed and used to be able to all the time. Something in the coding doesn't allow it. Some one said take the "s" out the http and I did that. Still didn't work so now I just paste the link.
Yeah all you have to do is click the Youtube icon and just remove this 's' from the https and it works
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Question:
He says he invented something called "The Kroc Row." It looks like a normal dumbbell row to me. He says he pulls the dumbbell up high and squeezes his shoulder blades together. Most people who do dumbbell rows do them this way. What's he doing that's so different that he needs to call it a "Kroc Row."
Someone please explain!
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Question:
He says he invented something called "The Kroc Row." It looks like a normal dumbbell row to me. He says he pulls the dumbbell up high and squeezes his shoulder blades together. Most people who do dumbbell rows do them this way. What's he doing that's so different that he needs to call it a "Kroc Row."
Someone please explain!
kroc row is a very heavy db row with very very high reps
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kroc row is a very heavy db row with very very high reps
So, if I use a very heavy barbell and do very very high reps, is that called a Kroc Row, too?
Or if I use a very heavy dumbbell and do very very high reps on the incline press, is that called a Kroc Press? ??? ??? ???
In other words, he is just doing a standard dumbbell row with a heavy weight and high reps and calling it a Kroc row? ??? ??? ???
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So, if I use a very heavy barbell and do very very high reps, is that called a Kroc Row, too?
Or if I use a very heavy dumbbell and do very very high reps on the incline press, is that called a Kroc Press? ??? ??? ???
In other words, he is just doing a standard dumbbell row with a heavy weight and high reps and calling it a Kroc row? ??? ??? ???
Maybe you also have to do ultra limited range movements to qualify for the blessed "Kroc" nom de plume? I dunno. I axed but no reply so I removed my query. Not a problem as I think the use of puny limited range movements is directly related to either pain avoidance or ego enhancement.
Or both.
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Maybe you also have to do ultra limited range movements to qualify for the blessed "Kroc" nom de plume? I dunno. I axed but no reply so I removed my query. Not a problem as I think the use of puny limited range movements is directly related to either pain avoidance or ego enhancement.
Or both.
I am going to invent random exercises and give them a name, too. Maybe it will make me famous, like Vince Goodrum, aka, the man with over 200 online businesses.
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So, if I use a very heavy barbell and do very very high reps, is that called a Kroc Row, too?
Or if I use a very heavy dumbbell and do very very high reps on the incline press, is that called a Kroc Press? ??? ??? ???
In other words, he is just doing a standard dumbbell row with a heavy weight and high reps and calling it a Kroc row? ??? ??? ???
im not familiar with the barbell version sorry
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http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most.../kroc_rows_101
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The man does appear to be strong, I fail to understand the limited range movements some do. As previously said, I think Strongman contestants are true athletes. Bodybuilders?
No way.
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So, in other words, its a slightly modified dumbbell row and its just called a Kroc row? ??? ??? Its just looser form with more weight and high reps.
I don't know, I still don't see a difference. Its not like its a drastically different exercise than a standard dumbbell row.
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The man does appear to be strong, I fail to understand the limited range movements some do. As previously said, I think Strongman contestants are true athletes. Bodybuilders?
No way.
Agreed
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Yeah all you have to do is click the Youtube icon and just remove this 's' from the https and it works
Joe has been told that MANY TIMES.
Not quite sure why he can't seem to remember it but it seems to be a common problem (not remembering simple shit) for him
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Coach, do you advocate his type of training?
He has torn more muscles than Ronnie and Dorian combined.
Obviously, not a very safe trainee. And isn't it the point of a properly designed strength program to PREVENT injury, NOT cause it?
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Coach, do you advocate his type of training?
He has torn more muscles than Ronnie and Dorian combined.
Obviously, not a very safe trainee. And isn't it the point of a properly designed strength program to PREVENT injury, NOT cause it?
Of course not. I would never train my clients with weight they couldn't handle. But that's power lifting and strongman isn't much better. But they seem to live longer than competitive bodybuilders..lol. I don't have any tears but I'm dealing with a nagging meniscus and UCL but that's because I'm usually throwing a football for about 100 reps on the weekends (the UCL).
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Joe has been told that MANY TIMES.
Not quite sure why he can't seem to remember it but it seems to be a common problem (not remembering simple shit) for him
Maybe you didn't read close enough. I said I tried. Your MSNBC style of reporting is kicking in.
"LOL...I don't take offence to that. I try to embed and used to be able to all the time. Something in the coding doesn't allow it. Some one said take the "s" out the http and I did that. Still didn't work so now I just paste the link".
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So, in other words, its a slightly modified dumbbell row and its just called a Kroc row? ??? ??? Its just looser form with more weight and high reps.
I don't know, I still don't see a difference. Its not like its a drastically different exercise than a standard dumbbell row.
Indeed, that's exactly what it is, a sloppy heavy row done for reps.
To be fair, he didn't pull a Weider and invent a lift. I remember when it first started a decade+ ago, it was mainly internet powerlifters that wrote into EliteFTS's board that called them Kroc rows, and then it became a bit of a joke, and now it just sorta fell into common use.
Here's an old vid of those guys giving a wink and a nod to it years ago -
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Kroc rows are a pure ego lift, I did them with ridiculous weights and surprisingly my back got no bigger
Lucky not to tear a bicep doing that :-X
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Maybe you also have to do ultra limited range movements to qualify for the blessed "Kroc" nom de plume? I dunno. I axed but no reply so I removed my query. Not a problem as I think the use of puny limited range movements is directly related to either pain avoidance or ego enhancement.
Or both.
Anything more than the range necessary to directly hit target muscle is stupid..
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Indeed, that's exactly what it is, a sloppy heavy row done for reps.
To be fair, he didn't pull a Weider and invent a lift. I remember when it first started a decade+ ago, it was mainly internet powerlifters that wrote into EliteFTS's board that called them Kroc rows, and then it became a bit of a joke, and now it just sorta fell into common use.
Here's an old vid of those guys giving a wink and a nod to it years ago -
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Yes, that is what it seems like. A dumbbell row with sloppier form. I watched other youtube videos and its really no different than a dumbbell row. It just looks slightly modified to handle bigger weight.
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was that so hard
Maybe you didn't read close enough. I said I tried. Your MSNBC style of reporting is kicking in.
"LOL...I don't take offence to that. I try to embed and used to be able to all the time. Something in the coding doesn't allow it. Some one said take the "s" out the http and I did that. Still didn't work so now I just paste the link".
yeah, and you've been told how to make that simple correction many times
Why am I not surprised something so incredibly simple is still out of your grasp?
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Dude is super strong but holy shit...he is a tear-onosaurus rex.
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Yes, that is what it seems like. A dumbbell row with sloppier form. I watched other youtube videos and its really no different than a dumbbell row. It just looks slightly modified to handle bigger weight.
Yeah, he, himself, just use to write them as dumbbell row weight x reps (adding more reps cause he couldn't find larger dumbbells), and then the questions start in - "How can we do Kroc rows?", "Where can we buy big dumbbell handles for Kroc rows?", "can we do other exercises like Kroc Rows?", and so on. Some of the stuff was so silly.
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Yeah, he, himself, just use to write them as dumbbell row weight x reps (adding more rep cause he couldn't find larger dumbbells), and then the questions start in - "How can we do Kroc rows?", "Where can we buy big dumbbell handles for Kroc rows?", "can we do other exercises like Kroc Rows?", and so on. Some of the stuff was so silly.
Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but nobody wanna invent a new name for old exercises.
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was that so hard
yeah, and you've been told how to make that simple correction many times
Why am I not surprised something so incredibly simple is still out of your grasp?
You're trolling me why? Do you train? If not why are you posting in this thread? If you do, offer something constructive. It's a computer. It's just as easy for you or anyone else to click the link. No? Simple yes or no would suffice.
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Yeah, he, himself, just use to write them as dumbbell row weight x reps (adding more reps cause he couldn't find larger dumbbells), and then the questions start in - "How can we do Kroc rows?", "Where can we buy big dumbbell handles for Kroc rows?", "can we do other exercises like Kroc Rows?", and so on. Some of the stuff was so silly.
Or just attach a fat grip to the dumbbell and voila, you have big handles.
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You're trolling me why? Do you train? If not why are you posting in this thread? If you do, offer something constructive. It's a computer. It's just as easy for you or anyone else to click the link. No? Simple yes or no would suffice.
change your diapers crybaby
I'm just pointing out you've been told many times to simply remove the "S" in your link yet you keep pretending that somehow this doesn't work for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Una-Qjod5UI
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Anyway.... About the ROM. People sure get uptight on this one. They see a guy who is light years ahead of them size wise, yet say their way is no good? I used to often shit on the bad form but WTF, it works for them. On heavy rowing, good form can be tough to keep up, but so what, as long as the results are there, no?
I swear I know a dude who does nothing but 1/7th (that is very accurate of his ROM) and is one of the overall biggest guys I know.
Basically, I've seen more huge mother fuckers who use bad form that dudes who use super strict form and are small.
I tend to be the very strict due to injuries, so slow tempo's are an absolute must, but back day is different. The stimulation, oddly from 4 plates T bar row done perfect does not have me look the same as doing heavy ass 6 plate version yet the muscle does not feel as stimulated on the spot. It's after...
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Question:
He says he invented something called "The Kroc Row." It looks like a normal dumbbell row to me. He says he pulls the dumbbell up high and squeezes his shoulder blades together. Most people who do dumbbell rows do them this way. What's he doing that's so different that he needs to call it a "Kroc Row."
Someone please explain!
Don't get it, this doesn't engage the lats. Ribcage or lower, closer to the insert. Dorian's routine (minus the underhand grip and pullovers) was ideal. For me, anyway.
But what the fuck do I know.
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"So, in other words, its a slightly modified dumbbell row and its just called a Kroc row?"
- Personally saw it so many times in gyms around the world, during last about 10 years, so have no idea why he calls it Kroc row? ??? ??? ???
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Matt Krocs biceps look bigger than his lats.
Tells me all I need to know.
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Coach what's your fav back routine? for bodybuilding/strength building
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"So, in other words, its a slightly modified dumbbell row and its just called a Kroc row?"
- Personally saw it so many times in gyms around the world, during last about 10 years, so have no idea why he calls it Kroc row? ??? ??? ???
This type of shit annoys the fuck outta me. Same thing with so many other principles I've been doing for YEARS, then some dude like Meadows comes along, tags a name to it, and is credited for being a genius.
Ok...
People just adding an ever so slight twist to something that already exists then calling it their own to gain notoriety. Dumb asses...
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Ever try a "wes press" ?
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Nothing new under the sun bro!
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Ever try a "wes press" ?
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Nothing new under the sun bro!
Goon one!
Nothing that rhymes with my name to reply, shit...
What about a "lift like Ritch the bitch press?" Kinda long to coin the term...
Or what if we "urbanize" yours to "Fresh wes press" the kids will dig it better and bring you good juice sales as they all hop on after half a week of training to seem them gainz....
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Goon one!
Nothing that rhymes with my name to reply, shit...
What about a "lift like Ritch the bitch press?" Kinda long to coin the term...
Or what if we "urbanize" yours to "Fresh wes press" the kids will dig it better and bring you good juice sales as they all hop on after half a week of training to seem them gainz....
You nut! LOL :D