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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Les banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
let them all die, no one cares.
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In for the before and after pics. What are you made of sugar and spice or a glass of nails :D
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
after seeing the latest photos from Sev, do you still think you would place higher than him?
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after seeing the latest photos from Sev, do you still think you would place higher than him?
If we both came in equal condition? Yes ;D
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hooooooooooly shit :o
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
WTF AH NO
that is straight suicide.
1cc is 100 iu for those who do not know, 300 iu per day would fucken kill you
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WTF AH NO
that is straight suicide.
1cc is 100 iu for those who do not know, 300 iu per day would fucken kill you
I couldn't believe it my self.. But that's what he really said...
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It's not unheard of guys, but would usually be a mix of slow and fast acting.
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It's not unheard of guys, but would usually be a mix of slow and fast acting.
Really that much tho?
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I couldn't believe it my self.. But that's what he really said...
trust me I know the craziest of the craziest when it comes to this and this is not the norm.
seen a guy do 50 iu gh in a day, seen a guy do 10cc of test suspension per day and even 400mg of tren ace per day.
beginners do 10 iu pre or post workout, an middle user does 20 long acting with 10 pre and 10 post and heavy users do 20 after every meal with the cut off being 100, I have seen 200 before but for very short periods and we are talking 300 pounders here
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Really that much tho?
100iu slow acting upon waking and a few doses of 30iu fast acting before gym and meals makes up 200 - 300iu, yeah I wouldn't say it's 'common', but what the guy told you was true
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I don't like using 20 to 30 IU a day. I can't imagine that. I'd be so worried I'd go hypo a day...
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I don't like using 20 to 30 IU a day. I can't imagine that. I'd be so worried I'd go hypo a day...
it just makes my face fat and I gotta keep within a weight class for comps so I don't use it anymore but it is the strongest hormone for putting on 'size'
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WTF AH NO
that is straight suicide.
1cc is 100 iu for those who do not know, 300 iu per day would fucken kill you
This.. The rule of thumb is 7-10 grams of carbs per iu, so that would be 2100-3000 gr for this 'Bostin Lloyd'..
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This.. The rule of thumb is 7-10 grams of carbs per iu, so that would be 2100-3000 gr for this 'Bostin Lloyd'..
You can get away with less carbs than 10g or so per iu of insulin
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You can get away with less carbs than 10g or so per iu of insulin
What would be the minimum for Humalog?
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It is basically exactly what gh15 said back in the days
100 - 300iu at the top Level of competition
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What would be the minimum for Humalog?
For me being so fast acting I go with 10 per IU. Usually post work out with a Karbolyn shake
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What would be the minimum for Humalog?
Depends on the person and also level of activity. For me I could get away with 60-70g carbs for 20iu no novorapid (European version on Humalog)
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For me being so fast acting I go with 10 per IU. Usually post work out with a Karbolyn shake
I thought for a long time that pinning Humalog post w/o was the default, but then BFG posted a protocol (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400792.0) where Humalog is taken intramuscular(!) pre w/o.
Has anyone here tried both protocols with the same doses of slin & carbs?
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insulin just gives me mega anxiety fuck that
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trust me I know the craziest of the craziest when it comes to this and this is not the norm.
seen a guy do 50 iu gh in a day, seen a guy do 10cc of test suspension per day and even 400mg of tren ace per day.
beginners do 10 iu pre or post workout, an middle user does 20 long acting with 10 pre and 10 post and heavy users do 20 after every meal with the cut off being 100, I have seen 200 before but for very short periods and we are talking 300 pounders here
Good to have u back!
That is insane! Why would anyone need to run that high of anything? More isn't better, truly addicts with mental issues we are dealing with
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Sounds like a Bostin Lloyd 3cc type of thing haha
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
no wonder the carbing up is so ridiculous they & they cant dial it in on contest day if this is the case.
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I thought for a long time that pinning Humalog post w/o was the default, but then BFG posted a protocol (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400792.0) where Humalog is taken intramuscular(!) pre w/o.
Has anyone here tried both protocols with the same doses of slin & carbs?
I used both methods and far prefer pre workout. Like literary before my first set. 50g cars during training then 20th carbs or so with amino drink after training. Used 15-20iu novorapid fast insulin
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Ask Don Youngblood about the use of insulin by a non-diabetic...He's f'in dead.
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Ask Don Youngblood about the use of insulin by a non-diabetic...He's f'in dead.
3 guys in my gym dropped from hypo in the past, one was hospitalised for a week. Other two not quite as serious, just went unconscious in public. It's not to be fucked with but it's cheap and puts on size so will be continued to be used and abused
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3 guys in my gym dropped from hypo in the past, one was hospitalised for a week. Other two not quite as serious, just went unconscious in public. It's not to be fucked with but it's cheap and puts on size so will be continued to be used and abused
did they drop in the gym?
did the guy who was hospitalised still slin it up after?
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did they drop in the gym?
did the guy who was hospitalised still slin it up after?
One in a grocery store, one driving home from gym and crashed into a ditch and one in the gym. I went upto the shop and got a Mars bar and lucozade for him and he came around. All 3 used slin again as far as I know
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
Post pic of the "athlete"...blur his faceout.
Why are people discussing AAS use openly on facebook? Man this is a fucked up generation
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3 guys in my gym dropped from hypo in the past, one was hospitalised for a week. Other two not quite as serious, just went unconscious in public. It's not to be fucked with but it's cheap and puts on size so will be continued to be used and abused
Don told me himself when I asked if he'd be competing that year's masters "My doc told me if I keep competing I'd end up having my legs amputated"...he died 3 months later.
It is MY mission in life to prove, as Arthur Jones did w/ Case Viator in The Colorado Experiment, you don't need any supplements. Just healthy food & rest. Admittedly I do use creatine for bb'ing purposes as I do think it helps. I also use arginine as I suffer from Peripheral Vascular Disease and it definitely helps w/ vasodilation. No stupid-assed protein powder or drugs.
I think if I can present a 48yr old, 5'8", 218lbs, <10% bf physique 100% naturally basically using only creatine I will have proven this ^.
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No way you can eat enough carbs to justify 3cc of slin
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OTH AND OKAMI HERE AT LEAST WOULD BE ONE TO PICK BRAIN ON THESE THINGS ..
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No way you can eat enough carbs to justify 3cc of slin
Exactly!
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Why are people discussing AAS use openly on facebook? Man this is a fucked up generation
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/east-point-mother-arrested-threatening-facebook-po/nk5Rf/
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I won't comment on the doses I heard top guys use but anyone who falls KO while on slin is an f'in moron. Before that happens, you feel really weird and know something is up. And to be in your car with no available sugar just proves he should stick to creatine and protein, stupid asshole...
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I won't comment on the doses I heard top guys use but anyone who falls KO while on slin is an f'in moron. Before that happens, you feel really weird and know something is up. And to be in your car with no available sugar just proves he should stick to creatine and protein, stupid asshole...
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You have a 5minute or so timeframe from feeling 'weird' (cold sweats, jaw locks, eyes get heavy, you get very weak) and going unconscious
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OTH AND OKAMI HERE AT LEAST WOULD BE ONE TO PICK BRAIN ON THESE THINGS ..
I am sure there are a few pros who do close to 300, non of the guys I know use that high, not even the ones on 8 grams of aas per week.
I know of one person only who does that much and its a woman who is 500lb and has the worse type of diabetes. I have heard of people dropping off of less then 20 iu, although ''ritch'' pointed out a good point, you would see it coming because its starts off lightly before it escalates.
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No way you can eat enough carbs to justify 3cc of slin
this^
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Good to have u back!
That is insane! Why would anyone need to run that high of anything? More isn't better, truly addicts with mental issues we are dealing with
8) of course, getbig is my home ;) ;)
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Don told me himself when I asked if he'd be competing that year's masters "My doc told me if I keep competing I'd end up having my legs amputated"...he died 3 months later.
It is MY mission in life to prove, as Arthur Jones did w/ Case Viator in The Colorado Experiment, you don't need any supplements. Just healthy food & rest. Admittedly I do use creatine for bb'ing purposes as I do think it helps. I also use arginine as I suffer from Peripheral Vascular Disease and it definitely helps w/ vasodilation. No stupid-assed protein powder or drugs.
I think if I can present a 48yr old, 5'8", 218lbs, <10% bf physique 100% naturally basically using only creatine I will have proven this ^.
don't be naive and think there was not a chemistry experiment going on along side the training program.
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don't be naive and think there was not a chemistry experiment going on along side the training program.
:o :o :o :o
TELL ME I DIDNT JUST READ THAT ON GETBIG ??? ??? ??? ???
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Don told me himself when I asked if he'd be competing that year's masters "My doc told me if I keep competing I'd end up having my legs amputated"...he died 3 months later.
It is MY mission in life to prove, as Arthur Jones did w/ Case Viator in The Colorado Experiment, you don't need any supplements. Just healthy food & rest. Admittedly I do use creatine for bb'ing purposes as I do think it helps. I also use arginine as I suffer from Peripheral Vascular Disease and it definitely helps w/ vasodilation. No stupid-assed protein powder or drugs.
I think if I can present a 48yr old, 5'8", 218lbs, <10% bf physique 100% naturally basically using only creatine I will have proven this ^.
DUDE 2015 here, snap out of it ;)
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I've met guys who did up to 150iu every day in the off season.
My good friend shot 50iu the first shot instead of 5iu. He didn't understand how to read the pin and thankfully called me afterwards.
After drinking apple juice for 3 hours he was fine.
8)
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Casey Viator used nothing but food & sleep when he gained 65lbs in one month. If you think otherwise its you being niave. Ask Dr Elliot Plese, if he's still alive, he was the supervising medical doctor at the Univ. of Colo. @ Grand Junction when the experiment was conducted. Casey also won the junior Mr America, junior USA, Mr America & Mr USA - ALL 100 % natural over the course of 2 yrs before the age of 20.
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Casey Viator used nothing but food & sleep when he gained 65lbs in one month. If you think otherwise its you being niave. Ask Dr Elliot Plese, if he's still alive, he was the supervising medical doctor at the Univ. of Colo. @ Grand Junction when the experiment was conducted. Casey also won the junior Mr America, junior USA, Mr America & Mr USA - ALL 100 % natural over the course of 2 yrs before the age of 20.
Got any proof?
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Got any proof?
Steve Reeves said so.
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Casey Viator used nothing but food & sleep when he gained 65lbs in one month. If you think otherwise its you being niave. Ask Dr Elliot Plese, if he's still alive, he was the supervising medical doctor at the Univ. of Colo. @ Grand Junction when the experiment was conducted. Casey also won the junior Mr America, junior USA, Mr America & Mr USA - ALL 100 % natural over the course of 2 yrs before the age of 20.
I hope you're sarcastic here, else there is no hope for you..
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www.arthurjonesexercise. com/Unpublished/Colorado.pdf
Casey Viator NEVER used any drugs while employed by Arthur Jones. If you think otherwise you don't what your talking about. He did after he moved to california & started training w/ Mentzer. His physique & competitive bodybuilding career went straight downhill as a result of this move. He died from congestive heart failure because he wouldn't take his meds nor keep regularly scheduled doc appointments.
http://www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do?id=409718
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I've met guys who did up to 150iu every day in the off season.
My good friend shot 50iu the first shot instead of 5iu. He didn't understand how to read the pin and thankfully called me afterwards.
After drinking apple juice for 3 hours he was fine.
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this is common among the people who do gh
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www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Unpublished/Colorado.pdf
Casey Viator NEVER used any drugs while employed by Arthur Jones. If you think otherwise you don't what your talking about. He did after he moved to california & started training w/ Mentzer. His physique & competitive bodybuilding career went straight downhill as a result of this move. He died from congestive heart failure because he wouldn't take his meds nor keep regularly scheduled doc appointments.
http://www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do?id=409718
DUDE SERIOUSLY... STOP
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I'm sure thats ^ what many drug users bodies have told them long before irrepairable damage was done & they DIED. Dude seriously permanently F'in your body up w/ crap that doesn't work is stupid. It'd be alot easier to put a gun to your head now instead of later.
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www.arthurjonesexercise.com/Unpublished/Colorado.pdf
Casey Viator NEVER used any drugs while employed by Arthur Jones. If you think otherwise you don't what your talking about. He did after he moved to california & started training w/ Mentzer. His physique & competitive bodybuilding career went straight downhill as a result of this move. He died from congestive heart failure because he wouldn't take his meds nor keep regularly scheduled doc appointments.
http://www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do?id=409718
;D I partied with Casey Viator in the early eighties at my buddies apt. If you believe that I got some land in the Everglades for you.
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Wow up to 300 units a day; a type 2 diabetic usually needs only around 1 unit per KG daily. Although I agree with one of the OP's that insulin is very anabolic it also causes hypoglycemia, atherosclerosis, weight gain (not the good kind), and worsens hypertension. For a person who is not technically a diabetic to utilize insulin is insane. I know a few pro level BB's who utilize GH, which is antagonistic to insulin in that it raises blood sugar (along with cortisol and epinephrine...they are counter-regulatory hormones). Apparently, this combination packs on muscle but at what cost. As you can see, since the 1990's when GH and insulin use really took off we went away from the Lee Haney / Lee Labrada physiques and morphed to Dorian and Ronnie. I don't think looking at the condition of DY and RC in their later years that it was necessarily a wise decision. Did they become ginormous...of course. However, their guts and internal organs grew also; can anyone with a straight face really want to looke like DY or RC circa 1996/1997 or 2004/2005, respectively. If you do more power to you and I got a bridge I want to sell you. For the realists, this degree of drug use is bringing the sport down, and it won't stop until the judges stop catering to the mass at all costs dictum.
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
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Alot of guys use up to 50 units slow acting upon waking. Then 30 to 40 fast each meal. Crazy because you have peaks to watch for. Gavin kane had a protocol years ago on pm. But theres local level guys on insane dosages Even higher.
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;D I partied with Casey Viator in the early eighties at my buddies apt. If you believe that I got some land in the Everglades for you.
Arthur fired Casey when he tried to squeeze Jones for more $$ in the mid 1970's. If drugs work explain why despite using 2gr/day w/ Mentzer he never looked better than in 1971???
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
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Alot of guys use up to 50 units slow acting upon waking. Then 30 to 40 fast each meal. Crazy because you have peaks to watch for. Gavin kane had a protocol years ago on pm. But theres local level guys on insane dosages Even higher.
I had no idea this was a common thing!!! I'm putting on weight with 20iu a day. I might just have to step my game up
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I had no idea this was a common thing!!! I'm putting on weight with 20iu a day. I might just have to step my game up
Why would you? You're making progress on this dose and everything is still controllable.
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Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?
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Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?
This, he is putting on 99.9 percent fat and .01 percent muscle tissue.
Also, Mike...your wife ok with u also using diabetic medications? Y'all ever sit down and go "why the fuck are we doing all this"? Your not a pro and never will be, why are you soooo wrapped up in this sub culture of underground freakness? You need a new hobby man. I hope this helps
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Don told me himself when I asked if he'd be competing that year's masters "My doc told me if I keep competing I'd end up having my legs amputated"...he died 3 months later.
It is MY mission in life to prove, as Arthur Jones did w/ Case Viator in The Colorado Experiment, you don't need any supplements. Just healthy food & rest. Admittedly I do use creatine for bb'ing purposes as I do think it helps. I also use arginine as I suffer from Peripheral Vascular Disease and it definitely helps w/ vasodilation. No stupid-assed protein powder or drugs.
I think if I can present a 48yr old, 5'8", 218lbs, <10% bf physique 100% naturally basically using only creatine I will have proven this ^.
Great gimmick Junior.
Btw if you haven't proved Arthur Jones training methods as legitimate within the last 30 years of training it's not going to happen at 48. Funny stuff though.
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Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?
he's offseason mode like sev ;)
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Putting weight on or putting muscle on Navy Mike?
I was just being sarcastic. I don't care for insulin much to be honest. I'm more interested to see what growth will do in 4 months or so.
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I don't believe this fools understand their measures. Didn't some fuck burn his thyroid because he didn't know the difference between MCG and MG ?
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I don't believe this fools understand their measures. Didn't some fuck burn his thyroid because he didn't know the difference between MCG and MG ?
Yep, spoke to a guy yesterday who told me he was taking 25mgs of T3
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Yep, spoke to a guy yesterday who told me he was taking 25mgs of T3
Holy shit man. It wasn't really taking that much was he? Tell me he just got confused between mcg and mg
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Holy shit man. It wasn't really taking that much was he? Tell me he just got confused between mcg and mg
Yep, just got mixed up
Maybe the guy taking 3ccs of insulin got mixed up as well
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I saw a post on the geared up Facebook about a guy asking if 1cc of humalin R was normal. Needless to say several well know diet coaches jumped in and said hell no you could die. Post up this meal plan and the "coach" that would recommend this reckless behavior. No shit he did and it was IFBB pro Lee banks. I asked Lee to come clarify his typo since we all though he ment many 10ui or somthing. Nope he came in and said yep 1cc of slin and if you want to play you got to pay and he knows several pros who top out at 3cc a day...
(http://www.bestofgalapagos.com/galapagos-images/galapagos_islands_charles_darwin_1.jpg)
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I don't believe this fools understand their measures. Didn't some fuck burn his thyroid because he didn't know the difference between MCG and MG ?
there was this bodybuilder who took 100x or 1000x the dosage of t3 , like 50mg instead of 50mcg or so,
IIRC he had a thyroid storm, got hospitalized and i think he later even died from it, i dont remember the name though. he was quite known...
also ESFitness on here has some story to tell about that i think... he accidentally took t3 instead of t4 but in t4 dosages... for weeks...
lost like 50lbs and nearly died or something
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there was this bodybuilder who took 100x or 1000x the dosage of t3 , like 50mg instead of 50mcg or so,
IIRC he had a thyroid storm, got hospitalized and i think he later even died from it, i dont remember the name though. he was quite known...
also ESFitness on here has some story to tell about that i think... he accidentally took t3 instead of t4 but in t4 dosages... for weeks...
lost like 50lbs and nearly died or something
Luke Wood
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Milos also had thyroid storm, his wife slathered his back with Percutacrine cream, thinking it wouldn't get absorbed to a high extent.
I doubt Wood's passing had much to do with the thyroid episode.
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Enjoy diabetes
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Enjoy diabetes
Don Youngblood certainly didn't. RIP Don.
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If we both came in equal condition? Yes ;D
you are a nice guy but you compare your hyunday elantra to my Jaguar E Type
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you are a nice guy but you compare your hyunday elantra to my Jaguar E Type
We will reserve judgement until you step onstage.
Until you have been onstage you never know who you are going to look
A lot of great gym bods dont transfer to the stage.
Lest wait until the Romanian Nationals when you make your stage debut.
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you are a nice guy but you compare your hyunday elantra to my Jaguar E Type
unlike your jaguar his hyunday actually has a driver without downs syndrome though
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/834/manfaceaua.jpg)
inb4 1000 pics of mikes posing face trying to prove the opposite :D
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there was this bodybuilder who took 100x or 1000x the dosage of t3 , like 50mg instead of 50mcg or so,
IIRC he had a thyroid storm, got hospitalized and i think he later even died from it, i dont remember the name though. he was quite known...
also ESFitness on here has some story to tell about that i think... he accidentally took t3 instead of t4 but in t4 dosages... for weeks...
lost like 50lbs and nearly died or something
actually i dropped from 235 to i believe 173 over 9 months using what i thought was t4 (was actually t3.. couple hundred mcg's per day).. ended up awakening paralyzed and ending up in the ER... I've talked all about if you search.
also have a friend (scott markey... used to post here) who accidentally shot 1cc of Humulin R IV thinking it was Nubain.. realized his mistake when the sub-q 10iu shot of what he thought was Humulin R stung like fuck (Humulin R doesn't sting sub-q... Nubain does)... he told me the story when i was driving him to work (at my GNC.. he was my employee) from PB to Del Mar the next morning. I've talked about this at length as well if you search.
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It is basically exactly what gh15 said back in the days
100 - 300iu at the top Level of competition
No. Gh15 never disclosed anything about insulin, never. He also stated he never used it.
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actually i dropped from 235 to i believe 173 over 9 months using what i thought was t4 (was actually t3.. couple hundred mcg's per day).. ended up awakening paralyzed and ending up in the ER... I've talked all about if you search.
also have a friend (scott markey... used to post here) who accidentally shot 1cc of Humulin R IV thinking it was Nubain.. realized his mistake when the sub-q 10iu shot of what he thought was Humulin R stung like fuck (Humulin R doesn't sting sub-q... Nubain does)... he told me the story when i was driving him to work (at my GNC.. he was my employee) from PB to Del Mar the next morning. I've talked about this at length as well if you search.
humulin R does sting ocassionally subq..
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humulin R does sting ocassionally subq..
You would be wise not to admit knowing that bearing in mind your current level of development.
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You would be wise not to admit knowing that bearing in mind your current level of development.
dont worry about it limp skin ;)
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You would be wise not to admit knowing that bearing in mind your current level of development.
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Lol at anybody without pro potential using insulin in pursuit of the elusive amateur plastic trophy of some shitty contest
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Lol at anybody without pro potential using insulin in pursuit of the elusive amateur plastic trophy of some shitty contest
^ agreed, if someone isn't competing seriously they shouldn't need insulin at all.
gh and gear won't kill you (not short term anyway!) but insulin easily can, i know because it almost killed me!
test, tren, gh. not over 2g total gear and 6-8ius gh = head turning physique
pro's 100% do use silly amounts of slin though.
nigh on 300lbs lean muscle, people seem to think it's easy to achieve when they parrot pro's using low doses!
when you see those crazy 1000g carb diets (Cutler, Warren etc) you can bet there's a hefty amount of slin there.
gh increases blood sugar too so high doses of that with up to 1000g carbs means hypo is unlikely.
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^ agreed, if someone isn't competing seriously they shouldn't need insulin at all.
gh and gear won't kill you (not short term anyway!) but insulin easily can, i know because it almost killed me!
test, tren, gh. not over 2g total gear and 6-8ius gh = head turning physique
pro's 100% do use silly amounts of slin though.
nigh on 300lbs lean muscle, people seem to think it's easy to achieve when they parrot pro's using low doses!
when you see those crazy 1000g carb diets (Cutler, Warren etc) you can bet there's a hefty amount of slin there.
gh increases blood sugar too so high doses of that with up to 1000g carbs means hypo is unlikely.
You can get a head turning physique on way less than that.
That amount is more likely to get you a stomach turning physique
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You can get a head turning physique on way less than that.
That amount is more likely to get you a stomach turning physique
nah, max i use is 4ml sust = 1g
4ml tren blend = 500mg so 1.5g total
6ius gh if money's there.
but then again what might turn your stomach may turn someone else's head!
105kg with abs at 6ft tends to be ok!
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nah, max i use is 4ml sust = 1g
4ml tren blend = 500mg so 1.5g total
6ius gh if money's there.
but then again what might turn your stomach may turn someone else's head!
105kg with abs at 6ft tends to be ok!
Im awesome as well.
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Im awesome as well.
never a bad time to remind people of one's awesomeness.
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never a bad time to remind people of one's awesomeness.
I am oft-told that people -- even women! -- do NOT wish to vomit at my appearance.
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No. G15 never disclosed anything about insulin, never. He also stated he never used it.
MILOS stated the most Anabolic compound and he advocated its use,long thread here yrs ago..
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100-300 iu is not uncommon for insulin use per day. You don't need anywhere near 10 g of carbs per iu of slin, and when you're using 20-30 iu of GH per day you can use more slin. GH raises blood sugar. On just 4 iu of serostim my bs went from 82 fasted to 125 fasted. Slin is nowhere near as dangerous as people make it seem. Simple really, take in enough carbs to cover the slin. People think you just drop over dead, fuck there are all kinds of symptoms when your bs is dropping, you don't just drop dead. Not sure why some of you guys don't believe the massive doses of drugs these guys use, but it is the norm not just in pro ranks but amateur as well.
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We will reserve judgement until you step onstage.
Until you have been onstage you never know who you are going to look
A lot of great gym bods dont transfer to the stage.
Lest wait until the Romanian Nationals when you make your stage debut.
Very true, but he does not even have that, so he's beyond fucked. But surely he's too stupid to even know that and will go ahead as the delusional turd he is thinking he belongs on a stage.
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This.. The rule of thumb is 7-10 grams of carbs per iu, so that would be 2100-3000 gr for this 'Bostin Lloyd'..
Now you know why Cutler was eating 1000g to 1500g of carbs a day leading up to a show. He was probably eating 2000 to 3000g of Carbs "offseason".
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100-300iu a day of slin...fuck that, life of a pro is not for me.
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100-300iu a day of slin...fuck that, life of a pro is not for me.
"Do you wanna live small or die big? Of course the answer is die big my friend"
The Mayor of Bodybuilding
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Now you know why Cutler was eating 1000g to 1500g of carbs a day leading up to a show. He was probably eating 2000 to 3000g of Carbs "offseason".
Which prob means 500-750gr after pinning, two times a day. That's a boatload of dextrose/vitargo/whatever :-X