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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ron on August 25, 2015, 01:30:01 PM
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From King Kamali
REST IN PEACE... I just heard the news that Iranian IFBB Professional Bodybuilder Balto Abbaspour has passed away. He was a great champion and one of the great rising stars in the bodybuilding world. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and loved ones. Rest in Peace and journey well
From Dennis James
This is a very sad day and I am at total loss for words but I have to let you all know that my friend Baito who was fighting for a long time has lost the battle and passed away. My condolences go out to his family and to all the Iranian people who loved and supported their hero all this time. RIP Baito Abbaspour.
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Wow P.I.P :'(
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Was this the arab guy that was in bed all skinny? ???
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RIP in peace
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Was this the arab guy that was in bed all skinny? ???
Yes.
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He was big n freaky
He died without a gh gut
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/11ebadc97e9f0ae36be4d1cdc7394e79/tumblr_mz4cn5zYxw1sdsncyo1_500.jpg)
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Extreme diuretics....no?
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Extreme diuretics....no?
Extreme everything
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I love how all of these "brothers in iron" losers on other boards talk about say, "RIP brother. Great quads" and shit.
Not a WORD spoken about him as a person.
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Congenital Heart defect?
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Extreme diuretics....no?
No!
I rarely say if drugs caused the death of a bodybuilder and RIP to this one. But I've said MANY years ago that insulin will fuck you up if not used for what it's intended. And once again I was called a bunch of names from the defenders of Milos' practices. Insulin will I fact fuck up metabolic pathways that leads to all kinds of problems. But this what I suspected. Keep fucking with the insulin...
A quick search of what I suspected when I first heard he has vasculitis
http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/abstract#/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/fulltext?mobileUi=1
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All of these guys that compete at a high level have In FACT cut their lives by 50%.
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I love how all of these "brothers in iron" losers on other boards talk about say, "RIP brother. Great quads" and shit.
Not a WORD spoken about him as a person.
its because they dont know him as a person.
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All of these guys that compete at a high level have In FACT cut their lives by 50%.
Robby Robinson?
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Robby Robinson?
No insulin use back then. I'm referring to the current crop of retards.
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Robby Robinson?
Back then..
Training
Diet
Drugs
In that order. Not the opposite.
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Don't know if this applies to Baito, but it is a fact that close to 70 Iranian bodybuilders have prematurely died due to extreme insulin abuse/use.
No!
I rarely say if drugs caused the death of a bodybuilder and RIP to this one. But I've said MANY years ago that insulin will fuck you up if not used for what it's intended. And once again I was called a bunch of names from the defenders of Milos' practices. Insulin will I fact fuck up metabolic pathways that leads to all kinds of problems. But this what I suspected. Keep fucking with the insulin...
A quick search of what I suspected when I first heard he has vasculitis
http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/abstract#/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/fulltext?mobileUi=1
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Don't know if this applies to Baito, but it is a fact that close to 70 Iranian bodybuilders have prematurely died due to extreme insulin abuse/use.
Maybe those Iranian's are a bunch of dumb asses :-\
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All of these guys that compete at a high level have In FACT cut their lives by 50%.
So,
Jay Cutler 42 today, would of lived to 84 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
dexter jackson 45 today, would of lived to 90 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
ronnie colman 51 today, would of lived to 102 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Dorian Yates 53 today, would of lived to 106 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Whats the price of a dozen eggs again? i just paid $3.95 last night for a dozen
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fuck these ifbb judges pushing kids for more and more size...RIP
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He was big n freaky
He died without a gh gut
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/11ebadc97e9f0ae36be4d1cdc7394e79/tumblr_mz4cn5zYxw1sdsncyo1_500.jpg)
What more can a man ask for?
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Healthy subculture of peace...
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Maybe those Iranian's are a bunch of dumb asses :-\
Don't know about that, but I was surprised to find that AAS were legal in Iran! So that's hardly going to discourage people...
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From King Kamali
REST IN PEACE... I just heard the news that Iranian IFBB Professional Bodybuilder Balto Abbaspour has passed away. He was a great champion and one of the great rising stars in the bodybuilding world. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and loved ones. Rest in Peace and journey well
From Dennis James
This is a very sad day and I am at total loss for words but I have to let you all know that my friend Baito who was fighting for a long time has lost the battle and passed away. My condolences go out to his family and to all the Iranian people who loved and supported their hero all this time. RIP Baito Abbaspour.
for Dannis deadly James..he was working with you butthead..now you wanna bring Ramy down too with your abusive steroid protocols..Guru my asss..he was alright before he start working with you.i mean there is no way for you to get out of this.
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No!
I rarely say if drugs caused the death of a bodybuilder and RIP to this one. But I've said MANY years ago that insulin will fuck you up if not used for what it's intended. And once again I was called a bunch of names from the defenders of Milos' practices. Insulin will I fact fuck up metabolic pathways that leads to all kinds of problems. But this what I suspected. Keep fucking with the insulin...
A quick search of what I suspected when I first heard he has vasculitis
http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/abstract#/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/fulltext?mobileUi=1
Good find. But it says it's rare. There's a ton of diabetics and they aren't dying from drug allergy induced vaculitis in large numbers from what I know. And it's not known for sure if this was a case of insulin allergy anyway, you're the first one I've seen who put this theory forward. I wonder if allergy to other peptides like rHGH could cause this as well.
And you're always talking about Milos' practices. He was working with Dennis James, who is said to be a seller of different types of strange peptides. Someone here posted a Dennis James cycle which included some "new" peptides, supposedly a generic recommendation for many of his athletes. There was no insulin in the protocol. Who knows, Baito might have developed an allergy to some of these impure strange new Chinese peptides...
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fook! just read about his death on Instagram and came straight here to verify. sad news indeed.
PIP brother :'(
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Don't know if this applies to Baito, but it is a fact that close to 70 Iranian bodybuilders have prematurely died due to extreme insulin abuse/use.
Really? Are you talking about OD's? If true, these iranians must be real stupid, it's not as easy to kill yourself with insulin as people think. From what I've heard and seen, they middle easterns are really stupid in general and wrt PEDs. I mean which pro died from insulin OD? None that I know of, Paul Dillet had some mishap at the Olympia when coached by Chad Nicholls. I heard a rumor of one very top pro ODing with insulin but he didn't die... wasn't coached by Milos either. I would say Milos pre-workout insulin protocol is very safe compared to a lot of other stuff athletes do.
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No!
I rarely say if drugs caused the death of a bodybuilder and RIP to this one. But I've said MANY years ago that insulin will fuck you up if not used for what it's intended. And once again I was called a bunch of names from the defenders of Milos' practices. Insulin will I fact fuck up metabolic pathways that leads to all kinds of problems. But this what I suspected. Keep fucking with the insulin...
A quick search of what I suspected when I first heard he has vasculitis
http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/abstract#/article/S0091-6749(06)03540-8/fulltext?mobileUi=1
Thats pretty interesting actually. I usually think only of the acute effects of insulin abuse like low blood sugar and such. Obviously the vasculitis hit this guy pretty hard. Imagine how many will be dying 5-10 years from now. Scary stuff that insulin is!!
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Stop all pro contests !.
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Really? Are you talking about OD's? If true, these iranians must be real stupid, it's not as easy to kill yourself with insulin as people think. From what I've heard and seen, they middle easterns are really stupid in general and wrt PEDs. I mean which pro died from insulin OD? None that I know of, Paul Dillet had some mishap at the Olympia when coached by Chad Nicholls. I heard a rumor of one very top pro ODing with insulin but he didn't die... wasn't coached by Milos either. I would say Milos pre-workout insulin protocol is very safe compared to a lot of other stuff athletes do.
Actually it's really easy to kill yourself with insulin. Taking too much or not eating enough after you take some can cause hypoglycemia, unconsciousness and death. This is well known and well documented medical info.
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how does dennis james make money?
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Actually it's really easy to kill yourself with insulin. Taking too much or not eating enough after you take some can cause hypoglycemia, unconsciousness and death. This is well known and well documented medical info.
If you do not eat and take a high dose sure. But how many bodybuilders have died from ODing? Millions of bodybuilders have used insulin but I can't recall hearing of any cases off hand...
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So,
Jay Cutler 42 today, would of lived to 84 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
dexter jackson 45 today, would of lived to 90 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
ronnie colman 51 today, would of lived to 102 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Dorian Yates 53 today, would of lived to 106 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Whats the price of a dozen eggs again? i just paid $3.95 last night for a dozen
Libtard at work.
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wasn't his arab friend bber in the hospital now too? same thing or?
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wasn't his arab friend bber in the hospital now too? same thing or?
This is what I wondered, wasn't there another guy a few weeks back giving a thumbs up with the doc sitting on his bed? Or was it this same guy that died?
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wasn't his arab friend bber in the hospital now too? same thing or?
Mohamed Salama was traveling to the US,to compete in his first pro show.
Unfortunately when he arrived to the US he had to be hospitalized...As to now the cause of illness is uncertain...Everything is being done to help him to a fast recovery.
PLEASE LETS ALL SEND MOHAMED OUR PRAYERS.
(https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11822619_940132739366477_207539155896926681_n.jpg?oh=165656c315885cfe87e64cde31f982bc&oe=567A02D5)
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This comes as a complete surprise ;D
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Sad story.
Wish the best for his family and friends.
PIP.
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So,
Jay Cutler 42 today, would of lived to 84 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
dexter jackson 45 today, would of lived to 90 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
ronnie colman 51 today, would of lived to 102 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Dorian Yates 53 today, would of lived to 106 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Whats the price of a dozen eggs again? i just paid $3.95 last night for a dozen
Don't get the egg reference but good post otherwise.
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So,
Jay Cutler 42 today, would of lived to 84 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
dexter jackson 45 today, would of lived to 90 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
ronnie colman 51 today, would of lived to 102 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Dorian Yates 53 today, would of lived to 106 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Whats the price of a dozen eggs again? i just paid $3.95 last night for a dozen
I believe he means the post-retirement life.
Like if you retire at 40 and would have lived until 80 you'll live until about 60 instead.
Seems a bit young but not an unreasonable theory.
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Is that Groink?
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Factor in outrageous doses of insulin...
If you do not eat and take a high dose sure. But how many bodybuilders have died from ODing? Millions of bodybuilders have used insulin but I can't recall hearing of any cases off hand...
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RIP, The great Persian bodybuilder.
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So,
Jay Cutler 42 today, would of lived to 84 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
dexter jackson 45 today, would of lived to 90 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
ronnie colman 51 today, would of lived to 102 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Dorian Yates 53 today, would of lived to 106 if not for his life being cut short by 50% due to Insulin use
Whats the price of a dozen eggs again? i just paid $3.95 last night for a dozen
Would HAVE ...
HTH
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Always sucks when someone passes at a relatively young age.
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Was this the arab guy that was in bed all skinny? ???
Persians are not Arabs. All are Moslem though, so, there's that. :/
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I think Dennis James and his drug advices probably has a lot to do with Baitoh's demise
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Unfortunate but hardly unexpected.
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Solid physique. Cool quads. Cool Soleus.
PIP
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Solid physique. Cool quads. Cool Soleus.
PIP
even cooler hamstring...
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RIP
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even cooler hamstring...
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With Akim Williams and Big Ramy:
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to big ramy...
(http://memestorage.com/_nw/18/88549892.jpg)
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It's all so ridiculous.
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RIP
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motivational for an early death? ::)
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Very impressive build compared to some of the bloated pigs you see on stage now days... Ramy better hurry up and win that O... Arabs dropping like flies.
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Was this the arab guy that was in bed all skinny? ???
I see some guys have skipped both Geography and History classes.
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RIP :-\ He was truly a great bodybuilder.
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I see some guys have skipped both Geography and History classes.
X2
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Do the people who donated for his medical costs now get their money back?
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Do the people who donated for his medical costs now get their money back?
You get a "Dennis James parking lot" autographed picture.
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Do the people who donated for his medical costs now get their money back?
Last year I donated to a woman whose son was hospitalized and when he died two days after my donation, I thought the exact same thing.
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Holy shit, he was born in 1979?! Fucking too young for that shit. PIP
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He was underrated as a bodybuilder.RIP
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He died for us bitches.
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Wow - only 36! I thought he was my age due to a typo on this page - some good pics of Baito here though...
http://www.mrofansite.com/abbaspour.html (http://www.mrofansite.com/abbaspour.html)
I notice he was around the same height as Benaziza, and possible a little heavier. Having stood next to Momo the mind boggles at the idea of someone possibly carrying more mass than him!!
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Up to 3 years ago there were virtually no deaths among IFBB pros (at least since the cases of Andreas Muntzer and Benaziza). Now they are dropping like flies (Luke Wood, Seccarecci, Nasser, Matt Duvall, , Matarazzo, Ed Van Amsterdam etc.). I believe that the bodybuilding lifestyle hasn't changed much, so why so many deaths recently?
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My fondest memory of balto will always been when he won the Nordic pro and refused to touch the women giving him his award... ahhh yes region of peace good times
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My fondest memory of balto will always been when he women that Nordic pro and refused to touch the women giving him his award... ahhh yes region of peace good times
Oh yeah I remember balto womening that Nordic pro as well.
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My fondest memory of balto will always been when he won the Nordic pro and refused to touch the women giving him his award... ahhh yes region of peace good times
What does this translate to in English? ???
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PIP Baito, you went as hard as possible for as long as possible, hope you have no regrets up in the GymInTheSky
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Up to 3 years ago there were virtually no deaths among IFBB pros (at least since the cases of Andreas Muntzer and Benaziza). Now they are dropping like flies (Luke Wood, Seccarecci, Nasser, Matt Duvall, , Matarazzo, Ed Van Amsterdam etc.). I believe that the bodybuilding lifestyle hasn't changed much, so why so many deaths recently?
ITALIAN_FAN, you need to watch this video from Italy, featuring deceased professional bodybuilder Daniele Seccarecci.
To answer your question as to why there have been more deaths recently (although I would not say they are dropping like flies), I feel that it is because the 90s pros are getting up in years and the side effects of the origins of rampant gear usage is finally catching up with them.
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Nobody in competitive bodybuilding is naive enough to not know what they are doing and the risks.
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Up to 3 years ago there were virtually no deaths among IFBB pros (at least since the cases of Andreas Muntzer and Benaziza). Now they are dropping like flies (Luke Wood, Seccarecci, Nasser, Matt Duvall, , Matarazzo, Ed Van Amsterdam etc.). I believe that the bodybuilding lifestyle hasn't changed much, so why so many deaths recently?
reckless attitude...
Years ago I think more people cared about health (took time off probably being a significant factor)... now it seems like more often you hear "I'm willing to shave years off my life to live like a 'king.'"
Obviously, some of these folks think they're shaving off a few years off their 80's, but it's obviously more like decades.
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ITALIAN_FAN, you need to watch this video from Italy, featuring deceased professional bodybuilder Daniele Seccarecci.
To answer your question as to why there have been more deaths recently (although I would not say they are dropping like flies), I feel that it is because the 90s pros are getting up in years and the side effects of the origins of rampant gear usage is finally catching up with them.
He was on here a couple weeks befoe his show, he was eating a box of 60 egg whites for his breakfast ::)
He got ripped about his shitty calves.
He didnt recover.
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Dj just posted a video if the burial , man, its like they were burying Elvis Presley, like a million people out there
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https://www.facebook.com/kuwaitbodybuilding (https://www.facebook.com/kuwaitbodybuilding)
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He was on here a couple weeks befoe his show, he was eating a box of 60 egg whites for his breakfast ::)
He got ripped about his shitty calves.
He didnt recover.
A post from Che taken from that thread. Amazing physique:
IMHO , best FLS ever
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488677.0;attach=531327;image)
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It's possible that Getbig's critiques of Seccarecci pushed him to take things to the next level at the Nordic Pro show that he competed in, days before dying:
33 years old...17 post and the guy is fucking dead. Unbelievable shit...
He really did die to impress us bitches.......
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Something to think about:
John Meadows on Facebook:
"Random thought for the day:
I HATE diuretics...I really do. What is worse, people are actually PROUD of their post show 30 lb gain over the course of a couple of day diuretic and pig out rebound. At some point these people will realize that the massive electrolyte imbalances this causes can KILL YOU. At the least you are going to suffer major kidney stress and very high blood pressure. I did this a lot when I was younger and dumb and was lucky I didn't give myself kidney failure.
I am hearing another pro bodybuilder passed. Rumors are all over the place so I am not 100%. People are saying he had a post contest electrolyte imbalance that caused cardiac arrhythmia. Just a month or two ago a female bodybuilder passed most likely due to this. Horribly sad.
Please stop bragging about you have gained 30 lbs in 2 days after looking overly dehydrated on stage."
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ITALIAN_FAN, you need to watch this video from Italy, featuring deceased professional bodybuilder Daniele Seccarecci.
To answer your question as to why there have been more deaths recently (although I would not say they are dropping like flies), I feel that it is because the 90s pros are getting up in years and the side effects of the origins of rampant gear usage is finally catching up with them.
What kind of a fool films a funeral service?
Load of schmoes there though by the look of things
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PBUH :'(
Currently with 72 virgins in paradise.
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PBUH :'(
Currently with 72 virgins in paradise.
Virgins like shizzo?
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Really? Are you talking about OD's? If true, these iranians must be real stupid, it's not as easy to kill yourself with insulin as people think. From what I've heard and seen, they middle easterns are really stupid in general and wrt PEDs. I mean which pro died from insulin OD? None that I know of, Paul Dillet had some mishap at the Olympia when coached by Chad Nicholls. I heard a rumor of one very top pro ODing with insulin but he didn't die... wasn't coached by Milos either. I would say Milos pre-workout insulin protocol is very safe compared to a lot of other stuff athletes do.
I believe when you OD on drugs you quickly pass out and die while unconscious. With insulin you feel the symptoms coming on gradually and they are not comfortable. You sweat like crazy and you start feeling woozy. And when you black out it's not like a sudden "lights out". You first start going like a flickering light. You feel yourself blacking out but still conscious enough to down some juice or pop some glucose tabs.
And even if you pass out it's not like death is guaranteed. Your brain is a glucose hog and will feel it first. Even while you are unconscious
your body; your muscles and liver, starts releasing glucose. You wake up with a slight head ache and a "WTF?" feeling.
One of my close friends once tried to commit suicide using slin. He injected a whole vial, 1,000 ius of Humulin R. Filmed the whole thing. Filmed himself snapping the flip top off, drew 3 ccs in two syringes and 2cc each in two other syringes. Pumped 3ccs in each glute and 2ccs in each delt.
He then laid on the couch and start blabbing about how life sucks and then closed his eyes and appeared to be asleep. You could start too see beads of sweat forming on his forehead and on his body (he wasn't wearing a shirt ). Then about maybe 25 minutes in his eyes pop open and he flies off the couch. He was off camera during this time but he said he went straight to the fridge and got some apple juice and started downing it, then he pour a cup of sugar in a shaker cup and added the juice and downed that in one swig. He made another one while eating a banana at the time. By the time he got to his second banana and third cup he could just sip on this cup of juice and sugar. He said his stomach was getting full and wasn't feeling good and was afraid he was going to throw up which he knew would be the death of him.
Some he just sat in one of those big easy chair and extended it so he could lean back but still keep his upper body somewhat upright, higher than his stomach. He figured he'd be less likely to throw up than if he lied down.
He drifted off to sleep and awoke about 12 hours later. Had a huge headache and in my opinion he seemed even dumber than normal
but that could just be me,
But he lived. After 1,000 ius of Humulin R he survived.
It's not that easy to kill yourself if you have the slightest idea of what you are doing. Iranians as a group are not retards like Iraqi's. They are very Westernized and educated. Of course, we're talking bodybuilders so all bets are off.
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Kuwait = raw capitalism combined with muslim fundamentalism. The worst of both worlds.
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I believe when you OD on drugs you quickly pass out and die while unconscious. With insulin you feel the symptoms coming on gradually and they are not comfortable. You sweat like crazy and you start feeling woozy. And when you black out it's not like a sudden "lights out". You first start going like a flickering light. You feel yourself blacking out but still conscious enough to down some juice or pop some glucose tabs.
And even if you pass out it's not like death is guaranteed. Your brain is a glucose hog and will feel it first. Even while you are unconscious
your body; your muscles and liver, starts releasing glucose. You wake up with a slight head ache and a "WTF?" feeling.
One of my close friends once tried to commit suicide using slin. He injected a whole vial, 1,000 ius of Humulin R. Filmed the whole thing. Filmed himself snapping the flip top off, drew 3 ccs in two syringes and 2cc each in two other syringes. Pumped 3ccs in each glute and 2ccs in each delt.
He then laid on the couch and start blabbing about how life sucks and then closed his eyes and appeared to be asleep. You could start too see beads of sweat forming on his forehead and on his body (he wasn't wearing a shirt ). Then about maybe 25 minutes in his eyes pop open and he flies off the couch. He was off camera during this time but he said he went straight to the fridge and got some apple juice and started downing it, then he pour a cup of sugar in a shaker cup and added the juice and downed that in one swig. He made another one while eating a banana at the time. By the time he got to his second banana and third cup he could just sip on this cup of juice and sugar. He said his stomach was getting full and wasn't feeling good and was afraid he was going to throw up which he knew would be the death of him.
Some he just sat in one of those big easy chair and extended it so he could lean back but still keep his upper body somewhat upright, higher than his stomach. He figured he'd be less likely to throw up than if he lied down.
He drifted off to sleep and awoke about 12 hours later. Had a huge headache and in my opinion he seemed even dumber than normal
but that could just be me,
But he lived. After 1,000 ius of Humulin R he survived.
It's not that easy to kill yourself if you have the slightest idea of what you are doing. Iranians as a group are not retards like Iraqi's. They are very Westernized and educated. Of course, we're talking bodybuilders so all bets are off.
Depending on the drug, this isn't the case at all. Some ODs can be very very unpleasant.
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I believe when you OD on drugs you quickly pass out and die while unconscious. With insulin you feel the symptoms coming on gradually and they are not comfortable. You sweat like crazy and you start feeling woozy. And when you black out it's not like a sudden "lights out". You first start going like a flickering light. You feel yourself blacking out but still conscious enough to down some juice or pop some glucose tabs.
And even if you pass out it's not like death is guaranteed. Your brain is a glucose hog and will feel it first. Even while you are unconscious
your body; your muscles and liver, starts releasing glucose. You wake up with a slight head ache and a "WTF?" feeling.
One of my close friends once tried to commit suicide using slin. He injected a whole vial, 1,000 ius of Humulin R. Filmed the whole thing. Filmed himself snapping the flip top off, drew 3 ccs in two syringes and 2cc each in two other syringes. Pumped 3ccs in each glute and 2ccs in each delt.
He then laid on the couch and start blabbing about how life sucks and then closed his eyes and appeared to be asleep. You could start too see beads of sweat forming on his forehead and on his body (he wasn't wearing a shirt ). Then about maybe 25 minutes in his eyes pop open and he flies off the couch. He was off camera during this time but he said he went straight to the fridge and got some apple juice and started downing it, then he pour a cup of sugar in a shaker cup and added the juice and downed that in one swig. He made another one while eating a banana at the time. By the time he got to his second banana and third cup he could just sip on this cup of juice and sugar. He said his stomach was getting full and wasn't feeling good and was afraid he was going to throw up which he knew would be the death of him.
Some he just sat in one of those big easy chair and extended it so he could lean back but still keep his upper body somewhat upright, higher than his stomach. He figured he'd be less likely to throw up than if he lied down.
He drifted off to sleep and awoke about 12 hours later. Had a huge headache and in my opinion he seemed even dumber than normal
but that could just be me,
But he lived. After 1,000 ius of Humulin R he survived.
It's not that easy to kill yourself if you have the slightest idea of what you are doing. Iranians as a group are not retards like Iraqi's. They are very Westernized and educated. Of course, we're talking bodybuilders so all bets are off.
30 ius is no fun.....1,000ius :o
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Something to think about:
John Meadows is correct. A lot more likely to die from diuretics than steroids. These people dying around sow time is not coincidental.
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John Meadows is correct. A lot more likely to die from diuretics than steroids. These people dying around sow time is not coincidental.
A lot of gymrats who never compete die out of the blue. Don't try to sugarcoat roids.
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I believe when you OD on drugs you quickly pass out and die while unconscious. With insulin you feel the symptoms coming on gradually and they are not comfortable. You sweat like crazy and you start feeling woozy. And when you black out it's not like a sudden "lights out". You first start going like a flickering light. You feel yourself blacking out but still conscious enough to down some juice or pop some glucose tabs.
And even if you pass out it's not like death is guaranteed. Your brain is a glucose hog and will feel it first. Even while you are unconscious
your body; your muscles and liver, starts releasing glucose. You wake up with a slight head ache and a "WTF?" feeling.
One of my close friends once tried to commit suicide using slin. He injected a whole vial, 1,000 ius of Humulin R. Filmed the whole thing. Filmed himself snapping the flip top off, drew 3 ccs in two syringes and 2cc each in two other syringes. Pumped 3ccs in each glute and 2ccs in each delt.
He then laid on the couch and start blabbing about how life sucks and then closed his eyes and appeared to be asleep. You could start too see beads of sweat forming on his forehead and on his body (he wasn't wearing a shirt ). Then about maybe 25 minutes in his eyes pop open and he flies off the couch. He was off camera during this time but he said he went straight to the fridge and got some apple juice and started downing it, then he pour a cup of sugar in a shaker cup and added the juice and downed that in one swig. He made another one while eating a banana at the time. By the time he got to his second banana and third cup he could just sip on this cup of juice and sugar. He said his stomach was getting full and wasn't feeling good and was afraid he was going to throw up which he knew would be the death of him.
Some he just sat in one of those big easy chair and extended it so he could lean back but still keep his upper body somewhat upright, higher than his stomach. He figured he'd be less likely to throw up than if he lied down.
He drifted off to sleep and awoke about 12 hours later. Had a huge headache and in my opinion he seemed even dumber than normal
but that could just be me,
But he lived. After 1,000 ius of Humulin R he survived.
It's not that easy to kill yourself if you have the slightest idea of what you are doing. Iranians as a group are not retards like Iraqi's. They are very Westernized and educated. Of course, we're talking bodybuilders so all bets are off.
Yep. An aquaintance, old gym buddy, did the same thing. Injected a vial of insulin in a suicide attempt and woke up on a sweat soaked rug some hours later.
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Depending on the drug, this isn't the case at all. Some ODs can be very very unpleasant.
Correct. I can speak from experience concerning opiates, or heroin at least. I think most would consider this a painless way out, although I woke up. You just black out and next thing you know you wake up on the floor, or at least I did with a gash on my head from hitting the side of the bathtub. It is very similar to when they put you under before surgery with the ventilator. Its just, boom out and you wake up in the recovery room (or don't wake up at all; don't fuck with the shit).
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Let's dedicate our next bench session to him, ok..... 8)
And after that: shut the Fook up.
Says Dr Dutch
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Correct. I can speak from experience concerning opiates, or heroin at least. I think most would consider this a painless way out, although I woke up. You just black out and next thing you know you wake up on the floor, or at least I did with a gash on my head from hitting the side of the bathtub. It is very similar to when they put you under before surgery with the ventilator. Its just, boom out and you wake up in the recovery room (or don't wake up at all; don't fuck with the shit).
I'm not a recreational drug user, nor have I ever been. But I speak some the other side of witnessing it. Convulsions, vomiting, pain, seizures etc. Of course I don't kbow if the person is aware and suffering, but from the outside it looks fucking horrid.
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All I know is a 9 yr old daughter thinks the sun shines from her Daddy's eyes... :( poor little thing to lose him for whatever reason. .. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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A lot of gymrats who never compete die out of the blue. Don't try to sugarcoat roids.
A lot of people die out of the blue.
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A lot of people die out of the blue.
Disgusted,
King Kamali credited you with getting him in close to the best conditioning of his life, at a time long past his competitive prime. Do you still keep in touch with King? Do you ever have a "dad" talk with him, and suggest to him that holding the size he still has is not worth it for a 43-year-old father? I just don't get what he is trying to prove. I honestly think there is a chance he will go the same way as Nasser if he keeps up like he has.
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Good question, Adam. I wondered if Bob Chick ever had a "Come to Jesus" chat with King as well...
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It's not worth it for any age. He has one of the least attractive physiques that can handle fat. It's just not a good look, period (king)
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