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I'm not going on HRt, just don't believe in taking test the rest of my life.
I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Any energy tips? Bcaa? Would gh be of benefit?
I'm 37, 2 kids, own a small biz etc... So life is stressful but can't do anything about that
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Force yourself to go to bed and be lights out before 10.
Edit: wut? Test is out, but you'd consider growth?
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Force yourself to go to bed and be lights out before 10.
Edit: wut? Test is out, but you'd consider growth?
Yes, test would require me to be on it forever, don't want that
Gh, yiu bounce back quick, not shut down for the rest of my life
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I was exactly like that in my late 30's. now i'm 50 and its way worse
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Age sucks. I'm almost 50 now and I'm more tired than I was just 5-10 years ago. I also refuse to go the TRT route, even though my doc would give it to me. I train as hard as possible 2-3x a week. Sure, I'm weaker than I was 10 years ago, but I look much younger and have a lot more muscle than the average 50 year old.
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I was exactly like that in my late 30's. now i'm 50 and its way worse
quit getting up before noon
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smoothies. find any way you can to get adequate sleep. debate frequently on getbig to keep mind sharp.
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How's the quality & quantity of your sleep?
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Get your thyroid checked and also vitamin B and D levels.
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quit getting up before noon
you know that doesn't happen!!!
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You have to eat a meal every hour . I deal with people hourly my appetite is through the roof im i get 8hrs of sleep
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Yes, test would require me to be on it forever, don't want that
Gh, yiu bounce back quick, not shut down for the rest of my life
You have no clue what you are talking about... Read a little man...
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I'm not going on HRt, just don't believe in taking test the rest of my life.
I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Any energy tips? Bcaa? Would gh be of benefit?
I'm 37, 2 kids, own a small biz etc... So life is stressful but can't do anything about that
fasting really helped me
I sleep like 3-5 hours a night for the past 10 years and since I began fasting in the morning I have more energy throughput the day
Not overdoing caffeine helped me a lot
And making sure I'm getting enough calories
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fasting really helped me
I sleep like 3-5 hours a night for the past 10 years and since I began fasting in the morning I have more energy throughput the day
Not overdoing caffeine helped me a lot
And making sure I'm getting enough calories
LOL. If I slept 3-5 hours a day, I would be dead in two weeks.
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I'm not going on HRt, just don't believe in taking test the rest of my life.
I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Any energy tips? Bcaa? Would gh be of benefit?
I'm 37, 2 kids, own a small biz etc... So life is stressful but can't do anything about that
38 with 3 kids here and feel the same way.It sucks and nothing seems to help.
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LOL. If I slept 3-5 hours a day, I would be dead in two weeks.
x2 natty wonder pampers himself 21 hours a day
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You have to eat a meal every hour . my appetite is through the roof
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I'm not going on HRt, just don't believe in taking test the rest of my life.
I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Any energy tips? Bcaa? Would gh be of benefit?
I'm 37, 2 kids, own a small biz etc... So life is stressful but can't do anything about that
Make sure your vitamin b12, D and b6 is high...Make sure you're reaching in Vitamin C as well...What is your E2? Suppressed thyroid can also have an effect on testosterone levels...What are the results for your LH and FSH and what ranges of your most recent bloodwork? I will try to help you out best i can.
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Test will make you feel almost like a kid again.
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Then stfu, and stop crying you feeble fuck. Consider eating a bullet.
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Then stfu, and stop crying you feeble fuck. Consider eating a bullet.
you went to the ChopperRider school of etiquette
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Bean constipation is serious shit..
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Then stfu, and stop crying you feeble fuck. Consider eating a bullet.
Harsh!
you went to the ChopperRider school of etiquette
:o
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Sleep is decent, I'm going to get a panel of blood work done next week.
Going to check CBC, test and tsh
Some of these HRt clinics have vitamins that are supposed to help like MIC combo and GOAL ( glutamine ornathine arginine etc)
Anyone use these?
My test levels are low, just can't come to grips though on being test depended the rest of my life. Not sure, I think about getting back on every damn day
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Not sure why guys worry about getting shut down, nature is doing it to you anyhow. Start on TRT doses and you'll start to feel awesome. Only problem is then you want to start blasting because you realize you can look your best ever in your late 40s. Gear is great.
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sleep is important 6-7 per night esp if your training 4 or more days per week
caffeine should not be over used t compensate for lack energy'whether it be red bulls.coffee,energy shots,ok to have couple per week but evry day and doing all 3 which i know some people do will rot u out..
get a multivitamin
eat small meals or eat small,but good quality food and toss a few scoops whey around that nothing crazy ..
fluids water stay hydrated'this i recently have reconsidered after realizing i don't drink enough.now at least 6 -8 i'm getting in..
stay at a good weight 'stable'not the perma bulk winter,or decent to low body fat thats not too low where your workouts e/energy are killed and you burn out,enough to have clear abs/some decent definition .summer drop it down a few ,,
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Sleep is decent, I'm going to get a panel of blood work done next week.
Going to check CBC, test and tsh
Some of these HRt clinics have vitamins that are supposed to help like MIC combo and GOAL ( glutamine ornathine arginine etc)
Anyone use these?
My test levels are low, just can't come to grips though on being test depended the rest of my life. Not sure, I think about getting back on every damn day
just take all that bullshit brah however kelp may help
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Test will make you feel almost like a kid again.
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Not sure why guys worry about getting shut down, nature is doing it to you anyhow. Start on TRT doses and you'll start to feel awesome. Only problem is then you want to start blasting because you realize you can look your best ever in your late 40s. Gear is great.
Starting to think this is the truth
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Starting to think this is the truth
Since you have blood work next week, ask them to measure your free test levels.
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yeah vitamins rock. covers your bases for any deficiencies.
age sucks, but if you work every day off a to-do list, and take every vitamin, drink water, sleep, enjoy lots of fruit and veggies, you'll look and feel better than your peers.
Lack of Sleep & Dehydration are the 2 biggest mistakes.
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yeah vitamins rock. covers your bases for any deficiencies.
age sucks, but if you work every day off a to-do list, and take every vitamin, drink water, sleep, enjoy lots of fruit and veggies, you'll look and feel better than your peers.
Lack of Sleep & Dehydration are the 2 biggest mistakes.
yes...i do same day in and out..enjoy my wine on weekends'n homo'..
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Since you have blood work next week, ask them to measure your free test levels.
Last year my test was 154, but that was 2 months after high dose deca and no pct
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Last year my test was 154, but that was 2 months after high dose deca and no pct
Measured in ng/dl? Damn, that's pretty low but understandable in your scenario. The acceptable range is pretty wide, but somewhere between 400 to 600 seems optimal.
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Blasting and cruising when you are almost 40+ is pretty much a solid recipe for making you feel lethargic and shitty.
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Ideal Hydration and Ideal Electrolyte levels are huge. I swear, you get that dialed in and you'll have so much natural energy with regular, restful sleep patterns. But, find what formula works for you. I think the random water formulas being bounced around are bogus. Figure out what works best for you.
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Sleep is decent, I'm going to get a panel of blood work done next week.
Going to check CBC, test and tsh
Some of these HRt clinics have vitamins that are supposed to help like MIC combo and GOAL ( glutamine ornathine arginine etc)
Anyone use these?
My test levels are low, just can't come to grips though on being test depended the rest of my life. Not sure, I think about getting back on every damn day
How`s your diet......list a typical days eating for you.
What type of training do you do?
How much cardio and what kind.
Does your schedule permit you to take naps........they can help recharge you bigtime if they`re for about an hour or so.
Do you eat lots of starchy carbs,do you drink milk and eat bread?
Serious questions bud,I`m honestly trying to offer assistance if I can.
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Last year my test was 154, but that was 2 months after high dose deca and no pct
PCT is not needed at all..........you can cycle on and off Test or blast and cruise in small dosages in your case,it`s not a life sentence like being married is.
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So you don't want to use a small amount of test a week for the rest of your life but you'll fuck around with HGH? Damn that's balls. I'd take test without blinking an eye before I wanted to play with HGH. Fuck those Acromegaly side effects of HGH...
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How`s your diet......list a typical days eating for you.
What type of training do you do?
How much cardio and what kind.
Does your schedule permit you to take naps........they can help recharge you bigtime if they`re for about an hour or so.
Do you eat lots of starchy carbs,do you drink milk and eat bread?
Serious questions bud,I`m honestly trying to offer assistance if I can.
Ok, can only take 10 min naps, train 3-4 times a week. I'm off everything so I train chest Monday's, shoulder and tri Wednesday, arms back fri and do a few squats on Saturday
I don't do cardio, but according to my iPhone, I walk 3 miles a day
Do not eat a lot of bread
Typical day: oatmeal plus banana in am with pomegranate juice
Lunch: peanut butter and jelly or chicken sandwich
Dinner: usually raw spinach and organic chicken or turkey meatloaf etc..
I was drinking 3-4 cups of espresso a day, just started limiting to one
Sleep 7-8 hours now , but I have 2 kids under 3 and wife is 35 weeks pregnant right now
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Ok, can only take 10 min naps, train 3-4 times a week. I'm off everything so I train chest Monday's, shoulder and tri Wednesday, arms back fri and do a few squats on Saturday
I don't do cardio, but according to my iPhone, I walk 3 miles a day
Do not eat a lot of bread
Typical day: oatmeal plus banana in am with pomegranate juice
Lunch: peanut butter and jelly or chicken sandwich
Dinner: usually raw spinach and organic chicken or turkey meatloaf etc..
I was drinking 3-4 cups of espresso a day, just started limiting to one
Sleep 7-8 hours now , but I have 2 kids under 3 and wife is 35 weeks pregnant right now
holy shit we have similar situation,,i eat more,same sleep as u,i have 3 kids 9-5-2...train 4 days some weeks 5 i have set up at home if i can't get to gym..i cut back caffeine recently...i'm 47..
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holy shit we have similar situation,,i eat more,same sleep as u,i have 3 kids 9-5-2...train 4 days some weeks 5 i have set up at home if i can't get to gym..i cut back caffeine recently...i'm 47..
Definitely, I had to cancel my gym membership and build a home gym
I put the kids down at 9, workout till 9:45, then in bed at 11, up at 630 or 6:45 and repeat same stuff
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Ok, can only take 10 min naps, train 3-4 times a week. I'm off everything so I train chest Monday's, shoulder and tri Wednesday, arms back fri and do a few squats on Saturday
I don't do cardio, but according to my iPhone, I walk 3 miles a day
Do not eat a lot of bread
Typical day: oatmeal plus banana in am with pomegranate juice
Lunch: peanut butter and jelly or chicken sandwich
Dinner: usually raw spinach and organic chicken or turkey meatloaf etc..
I was drinking 3-4 cups of espresso a day, just started limiting to one
Sleep 7-8 hours now , but I have 2 kids under 3 and wife is 35 weeks pregnant right now
That`s gotta` be tough with the kids and the wife being prenant.......I`d tear my hair out if I had any.
Increase protein bud,that is nowhere near enough IMO.
Can all bread,it does jackshit for your body.........increase veggies and eat more starchy carbs for prolonged energy.
Have 4-6 eggs in the AM with a banana.
PB& J while tasting great is not for a bodybuilder.........eat some chicken breasts with rice and a veggie.
Dinner looks fine,throw a shake mixed in water in there somewhere during the day..
You aren`t getting in enough food.
Eat some rice,sweet potatoes,baked potatoes,oatmeal..........foods that will sustain your energy.
These are complex long chained carbs that trickle into your system slowly and sustain energy for longer periods that pomegranite juice for and a banana for example.
Drink a shitload of water,as much as you can within reason and don`t miss your sleep.
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wes nailed it. Wise words. this one especially:
Can all bread,it does jackshit for your body.........increase veggies and eat more starchy carbs for prolonged energy.
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thanks 240. ;)
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That`s gotta` be tough with the kids and the wife being prenant.......I`d tear my hair out if I had any.
Increase protein bud,that is nowhere near enough IMO.
Can all bread,it does jackshit for your body.........increase veggies and eat more starchy carbs for prolonged energy.
Have 4-6 eggs in the AM with a banana.
PB& J while tasting great is not for a bodybuilder.........eat some chicken breasts with rice and a veggie.
Dinner looks fine,throw a shake mixed in water in there somewhere during the day..
You aren`t getting in enough food.
Eat some rice,sweet potatoes,baked potatoes,oatmeal..........foods that will sustain your energy.
These are complex long chained carbs that trickle into your system slowly and sustain energy for longer periods that pomegranite juice for and a banana for example.
Drink a shitload of water,as much as you can within reason and don`t miss your sleep.
Solid advice.
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thanks 240. ;)
Thanks Wes
Like bake a crapload of chicken breasts and bring some to lunch each day? I know food is a big issue, but after work, feeding kids, bathing etc, not much time to prepare a lot of food
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Thanks Wes
Like bake a crapload of chicken breasts and bring some to lunch each day? I know food is a big issue, but after work, feeding kids, bathing etc, not much time to prepare a lot of food
I hear ya` bud,do it as time allows.
Good luck. ;)
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I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Any energy tips? Bcaa? Would gh be of benefit?
I'm 37, 2 kids, own a small biz etc... So life is stressful but can't do anything about that
One word...Thyroid...
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oh yeah,from personal experience,don`t make too many chicken breasts in advance,they taste like ass after a while.
2-3 days worth is about the best scenario.
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Have you ever considered this course of action?
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yeah vitamins rock. covers your bases for any deficiencies.
age sucks, but if you work every day off a to-do list, and take every vitamin, drink water, sleep, enjoy lots of fruit and veggies, you'll look and feel better than your peers.
I do this and I also jerk off all the time. I feel great.
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Have you ever considered this course of action?
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That is not an option, I'm not a coward and I take care of my family. That's the biggest problem in this country right now, people not being f ing responsible!
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I do this and I also jerk off all the time. I feel great.
yep, 2x a day is the way to go. Skip 2-3 days and you'll feel 50 years old.
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Get blood work done to see what is going on inside.
Also consider getting a CPAP machine.
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That is not an option, I'm not a coward and I take care of my family. That's the biggest problem in this country right now, people not being f ing responsible!
Preach on, broskie!
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Get a full check up from the doctor with a full blood/urine test. Go to bed at 9 to 10PM. Drink alcohol only twice a week if you indulge and don't binge when you do. Add cardio. Cardio at first if you're not doing it will seem to suck the energy out of you but after a while you will feel full of energy all day.
I'm 56 and the doctor said I had low T. Instead of putting me on testosterone he put me on Clomid. The women's fertility drug works as an anti estrogen I believe in men making your own pituitary gland pump out more luientinizing hormone. Waiting to see what my next blood results for testosterone will look like. Doing it in two weeks. Taking test shuts down your balls. Doing it for years will permanently shut them down. Clomid makes your ball work harder instead of making stop working.
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Get a full check up from the doctor with a full blood/urine test. Go to bed at 9 to 10PM. Drink alcohol only twice a week if you indulge and don't binge when you do. Add cardio. Cardio at first if you're not doing it will seem to suck the energy out of you but after a while you will feel full of energy all day.
I'm 56 and the doctor said I had low T. Instead of putting me on testosterone he put me on Clomid. The women's fertility drug works as an anti estrogen I believe in men making your own pituitary gland pump out more luientinizing hormone. Waiting to see what my next blood results for testosterone will look like. Doing it in two weeks. Taking test shuts down your balls. Doing it for years will permanently shut them down. Clomid makes your ball work harder instead of making stop working.
The full results of clomid are not permanent
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Get your thyroid checked and also vitamin B and D levels.
This. Could be hypothyroid. Plus, ranges the give you on your typical blood work may not be completely ideal. May want to see an endocrinologist
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Worm try to post your bloodwork i'd essentially say if you wanna stay off test that you wanna exhaust all avenues before you start injecting yourself because if you feel mid treatment that you wanna get back off it's gonna be much much harder and realistically almost impossible
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The full results of clomid are not permanent
True in that you don't take it and stop expecting the results to continue. Like testosterone taking clomid is a long term thing. It' also cheaper than testosterone. Taking testosterone can change the viscosity of your blood making the risk of a heart attack greater. It can also put you at risk in the long term for an enlarged prostate. I'm not a doctor but taking clomid long term has none of those risks except for an increased risk of eye sight damage.
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yep, 2x a day is the way to go. Skip 2-3 days and you'll feel 50 years old.
what planet are you guys on. I am the complete opposite.
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Get a full check up from the doctor with a full blood/urine test. Go to bed at 9 to 10PM. Drink alcohol only twice a week if you indulge and don't binge when you do. Add cardio. Cardio at first if you're not doing it will seem to suck the energy out of you but after a while you will feel full of energy all day.
I'm 56 and the doctor said I had low T. Instead of putting me on testosterone he put me on Clomid. The women's fertility drug works as an anti estrogen I believe in men making your own pituitary gland pump out more luientinizing hormone. Waiting to see what my next blood results for testosterone will look like. Doing it in two weeks. Taking test shuts down your balls. Doing it for years will permanently shut them down. Clomid makes your ball work harder instead of making stop working.
That is not proved across the board. Some systems bounce back fully, others half way, others not at all.
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True in that you don't take it and stop expecting the results to continue. Like testosterone taking clomid is a long term thing. It' also cheaper than testosterone. Taking testosterone can change the viscosity of your blood making the risk of a heart attack greater. It can also put you at risk in the long term for an enlarged prostate. I'm not a doctor but taking clomid long term has none of those risks except for an increased risk of eye sight damage.
Well this is why they don't blindly hand you the medication. You get blood tests multiple times a year and depending on your hemoglobin, RBC etc etc they will tell you how many times to donate blood accordingly and also it's the doctors job to make sure things like your cholesterol and blood pressure are in check as well...There were lawsuits a few years ago with the gels because people with shitty lifestyles that never went to the doctor started treatment and ended up having problems...Those are the people that give the treatment a bad name...Yes clomid would have to be long-term but with test you're able to pinpoint where you want your test to be much easier with the dosing
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I'm 37 since august. I work at night, so sleep is an issue for me. With the time i became a stress bomb, always alert, never feeling quiet or relaxed.
I was drinking tooo much cafeine, like a big cup of coffee when i woke up at 01 p.m, eating + shower, then preworkout, and again 2 coffee before work at 7 p.m , and another coffe at night. Basically 5/6 coffee e.d + preworkout.
So i stopped cafeine and all kind of preworkout stimulant. I'm better now.
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I'm 37 since august. I work at night, so sleep is an issue for me. With the time i became a stress bomb, always alert, never feeling quiet or relaxed.
I was drinking tooo much cafeine, like a big cup of coffee when i woke up at 01 p.m, eating + shower, then preworkout, and again 2 coffee before work at 7 p.m , and another coffe at night. Basically 5/6 coffee e.d + preworkout.
So i stopped cafeine and all kind of preworkout stimulant. I'm better now.
I'm trying this now, oh day 1 of limited caffeine and feel so tired! Thinking is making. Starbucks run, lol
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I'm trying this now, oh day 1 of limited caffeine and feel so tired! Thinking is making. Starbucks run, lol
I went from every day 1 cofee to maybe 1 or 2 x per week ,few wks now and I feel ok...
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Definitely must taper from coffee-levels of caffeine, if the intent is to stop. Quitting cold will make you pissed as fuck, and you'll suffer noticeable withdrawal symptoms for days.
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That is not an option, I'm not a coward and I take care of my family. That's the biggest problem in this country right now, people not being f ing responsible!
Translation: I am already depressed and miserable, I am terrified of being middle aged and alone, at least if I stay married I can share my misery with my family.
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Translation: I am already depressed and miserable, I am terrified of being middle aged and alone, at least if I stay married I can share my misery with my family.
Translation, you are wrong. Love my life, have the hottest wife and make a ton of money. Wrong on all accounts, it's called being a father you piece of shit.
More of a man to be a great husband and father than being a punk ass bitch who runs off. That's the problem with black America
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I live on coffee........have cut back a bit but I still need to drink less.
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I live on coffee........have cut back a bit but I still need to drink less.
Same. I'm almost 50 and have great energy.
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Same. I'm almost 50 and have great energy.
My energy is good,but coffee fucks with my anxiety issues.
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1-3 cups of coffee a day for me, green tea instead sometimes, usually more chilled with only green tea but as I don't use pre workout any more a coffee gets me ready for training.
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My body doesn't handle caffeine well at all so never have it except for an occasional gas station cappuccino.
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My body doesn't handle caffeine well at all so never have it except for an occasional gas station cappuccino.
I need it in the morning as I train early................I feel like death in the morning and coffee does it for me.
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Wes do you cycle on and off gear or whats the story?
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what planet are you guys on. I am the complete opposite.
Same here.
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My energy is good,but coffee fucks with my anxiety issues.
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Wes do you cycle on and off gear or whats the story?
Yes I normally do................at times I`ve been on for years,but usually not huge doses.
More gear for contests,but never really anything exorbatant.
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Josh,I took your advice and cut back,but I need it in the AM..........I feel like pure unadulterated shit in the morning.
I`ll PM you something about diet later that I forgot to mention...............ta king my dogs out right now.
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I've never been one for coffee or much soda. Just a caffeine pill. Broken up, even. A small fraction in the morning, maybe 1/8, is only 25 mg. Enough to give you the coffee buzz, but not 400 mg you get with starbucks. measure it, scale it back. manage it.
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I have not ingested caffeine in years and my energy levels are very high for a middle aged guy. Use stims like coffee long-term and you will suffer the consequences when you stop or cut back. The human body will fuck you hard if you allow it.
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Dont work fulltime. 3 days/week maximum!
Adjust your outgoings! Dont let your bitch raise your outgoings. Live smart and cooperate.
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I'm trying this now, oh day 1 of limited caffeine and feel so tired! Thinking is making. Starbucks run, lol
the first 2 day without cafeine were horrible. headache, pain behind my eye, nausea, lethargy. But now i feel like a new man.
Caffeine is a drug. With caffeine you think your body can, but in reality you're fried.
At the end of my caffeine nightmare, i remember a workout where i took a large cup of black coffee + 2 strong nespresso and i almost felt asleep during training. Burn out !
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I've never been one for coffee or much soda. Just a caffeine pill. Broken up, even. A small fraction in the morning, maybe 1/8, is only 25 mg. Enough to give you the coffee buzz, but not 400 mg you get with starbucks. measure it, scale it back. manage it.
I have an espresso machine, once you get one of those, you will be addicted to cappuccinos!
Wes, what's your cycles like? How long do u go off? How's your pct? Yiur test levels go back to normal?
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smoothies. find any way you can to get adequate sleep. debate frequently on getbig to keep mind sharp.
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I have an espresso machine, once you get one of those, you will be addicted to cappuccinos!
Wes, what's your cycles like? How long do u go off? How's your pct? Yiur test levels go back to normal?
My cycles all depend on whether I`m competing or not.
Right now I`m just running 500 mgs. Test per week.
After a time on this I may go to 750,then 1 gram for 3-4 weeks only,then I`ll taper back down and just come off completely for a little while or stay at 250 mgs. and just cruise.
I have never done PCT and think it is unecessary.............. .for me anyway.
during a contest prep,I add in a few more types of gear to try to acheive the desired look.
Off season,just Test............remember I just turned 60 in June so my Test levels aren`t what they used to be when I`m clean.
I have just started again and was clean since 2011...............felt old and got so discouraged with training that I quit for 15 months...........just rounding into halfway decent shape as we speak.
If you are interested in starting up again,just do 250 mgs per week............if that doesn`t help,I`d go 500 but not any higher than that.
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If I`m making good gains on 500 mgs.I won`t go up.........why waste it as I`m not a huge guy and never will be.
I try to use a dosage that gives me the results I`m seeking as a rule even if it is a baby dose compared to others usage.
Get the most bang for your buck in other words.
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My cycles all depend on whether I`m competing or not.
Right now I`m just running 500 mgs. Test per week.
After a time on this I may go to 750,then 1 gram for 3-4 weeks only,then I`ll taper back down and just come off completely for a little while or stay at 250 mgs. and just cruise.
I have never done PCT and think it is unecessary.............. .for me anyway.
during a contest prep,I add in a few more types of gear to try to acheive the desired look.
Off season,just Test............remember I just turned 60 in June so my Test levels aren`t what they used to be when I`m clean.
I have just started again and was clean since 2011...............felt old and got so discouraged with training that I quit for 15 months...........just rounding into halfway decent shape as we speak.
If you are interested in starting up again,just do 250 mgs per week............if that doesn`t help,I`d go 500 but not any higher than that.
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If I`m making good gains on 500 mgs.I won`t go up.........why waste it as I`m not a huge guy and never will be.
I try to use a dosage that gives me the results I`m seeking as a rule even if it is a baby dose compared to others usage.
Get the most bang for your buck in other words.
The reality that some people don't use PCT is very interesting to me. I haven't read much to say that guys back in the earlier days were using PCT, for one thing... yet I haven't seen much to say bitchtits and related things were common, either. I'd like to know the whole story, but it doesn't seem to be written anywhere. Very mysterious subject.
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I`m the type of guy that uses and at times I go pretty high depending on my goals at any given time,but I would say that I am not one to rely solely on the gear..........I diet strictly and train as hard as I can.
Never had gyno issues in all the years I`ve been using.
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I`m the type of guy that uses and at times I go pretty high depending on my goals at any given time,but I would say that I am not one to rely solely on the gear..........I diet strictly and train as hard as I can.
Never had gyno issues in all the years I`ve been using.
You don't worry about heart disease or prostate cancer?
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My cycles all depend on whether I`m competing or not.
Right now I`m just running 500 mgs. Test per week.
After a time on this I may go to 750,then 1 gram for 3-4 weeks only,then I`ll taper back down and just come off completely for a little while or stay at 250 mgs. and just cruise.
I have never done PCT and think it is unecessary.............. .for me anyway.
during a contest prep,I add in a few more types of gear to try to acheive the desired look.
Off season,just Test............remember I just turned 60 in June so my Test levels aren`t what they used to be when I`m clean.
I have just started again and was clean since 2011...............felt old and got so discouraged with training that I quit for 15 months...........just rounding into halfway decent shape as we speak.
If you are interested in starting up again,just do 250 mgs per week............if that doesn`t help,I`d go 500 but not any higher than that.
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If I`m making good gains on 500 mgs.I won`t go up.........why waste it as I`m not a huge guy and never will be.
I try to use a dosage that gives me the results I`m seeking as a rule even if it is a baby dose compared to others usage.
Get the most bang for your buck in other words.
Do you know where your test levels were before you got back on after 3 yrs off?
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For HRT you are just pushing back the age that you will have negative age-related symptoms until it doesn't matter as much anymore. This is also true of women on HRT; you just push back menopause until they're 55+ instead of 40.
If you're having symptoms at 37, wouldn't it be better for you to be symptom free until your mid 50's?
It's your call, but it just doesn't make sense to completely write-off a known effective therapy based that you will be on long term.
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For HRT you are just pushing back the age that you will have negative age-related symptoms until it doesn't matter as much anymore. This is also true of women on HRT; you just push back menopause until they're 55+ instead of 40.
If you're having symptoms at 37, wouldn't it be better for you to be symptom free until your mid 50's?
It's your call, but it just doesn't make sense to completely write-off a known effective therapy based that you will be on long term.
I'm just not convinced it's the healthiest option...
Most of the research on HRt is from the drug companies that make money off of you getting on HRt
Too much money involved for them to tell us it's not the healthiest option. Kind of like smoking 50 years ago
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I'm just not convinced it's the healthiest option...
Most of the research on HRt is from the drug companies that make money off of you getting on HRt
Too much money involved for them to tell us it's not the healthiest option. Kind of like smoking 50 years ago
It's made for health and longevity...It's more "safe" than low T....If cigarettes were originally made to prolong life then maybe we can compare them but smoking was never considered that...
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It's made for health and longevity...It's more "safe" than low T....If cigarettes were originally made to prolong life then maybe we can compare them but smoking was never considered that...
Can you prove its safer than low T? I read a lot of studies saying the current research is inconclusive. Critics argue it leads to heart disease by altering cholesterol and increases risk of prostate cancer.
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I need it in the morning as I train early................I feel like death in the morning and coffee does it for me.
Yeah, me too but for some reason caffeine makes me more tired overall. The boost doesn't last long at all and drains me moreso.
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Can you prove its safer than low T? I read a lot of studies saying the current research is inconclusive. Critics argue it leads to heart disease by altering cholesterol and increases risk of prostate cancer.
Critics are people who aren't on it. Just like critics of multiple steroids are people who are in a lab and haven't used them and don't have any human studies. TRT levels will not destroy your cholesterol lol..High average levels does not produce enough...Your body can handle it...It can't be high if you're using right dose...More test = more cholesterol in most cases...If you're a healthy 40 y/o with 1100 levels you are a perfectly above average healthy male...Keep an eye on hemoglobin, hemocrit, RBC and blood pressure etc but any 40 year old should anyway....IN any case alot of that if you have higher levels can be solved by donating blood a few times a year...
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people need to understand there's a huge push to minimize males. so the message from the news will be against testosterone.
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im in the same boat. 38. i can get through the day but goddamn i'm fucking tired as fuck. I'm in better shape than 90% of hs kids though and most 20yr olds. Unlike that fag OP though i'm def going on TRT after training natural forever, literally. Fuck this noise i wanna feel like 18 again.
I wanna make young bitches uncomfortable when they're next to me.
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You don't worry about heart disease or prostate cancer?
I have 2 physicals a year..........I`m in perfect health.
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Do you know where your test levels were before you got back on after 3 yrs off?
No idea bud.
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im in the same boat. 38. i can get through the day but goddamn i'm fucking tired as fuck. I'm in better shape than 90% of hs kids though and most 20yr olds. Unlike that fag OP though i'm def going on TRT after training natural forever, literally. Fuck this noise i wanna feel like 18 again.
I wanna make young bitches uncomfortable when they're next to me.
Why am I a fag? You seem very mature
Anyway, I currently cycle on and off to try to keep my natural test levels up. I think William Lewellyn agrees cycling is safer and healthier on your body. Right now I'm off x 2 months and plan on staying off for 5-6 months more. My last cycle was 5 months. Just overall in limbo now, should I stay off or jump on real HRT
Just trying everything else before committing to life long injections
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I'm not going on HRt, just don't believe in taking test the rest of my life.
I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Any energy tips? Bcaa? Would gh be of benefit?
I'm 37, 2 kids, own a small biz etc... So life is stressful but can't do anything about that
When I feel tired, run down, and like life is kicking my ass I just think of the pathetic existence of Josh Rehaluk. How he has to beg Joon for $20 so he can eat this month and how he has to endure his girlfriend riding and sucking jigaboo and cock because his dick is as soft as Shitso's triceps.
And suddenly life doesn't see so bad. And I think of that pic of the obese welfare bitch with his lame fishing rod and hand me down Goodwill clothes and all of a sudden the laughter rejuvenates me.
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im in the same boat. 38. i can get through the day but goddamn i'm fucking tired as fuck. I'm in better shape than 90% of hs kids though and most 20yr olds. Unlike that fag OP though i'm def going on TRT after training natural forever, literally. Fuck this noise i wanna feel like 18 again.
I wanna make young bitches uncomfortable when they're next to me.
theworm is a good poster, though... he's from the steroid info board
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theworm is a good poster, though... he's from the steroid info board
Thanks man.
Being on juice at 26 was fun, but I guess it takes it toll later on and now at 37 with wife and family, being on seems selfish and foolish but yet, I don't want to stop. Kind of like saying you are not allowed to have fun ever again.
I guess, I'll just continue to cycle on and off, just hate being off, but I would hate even more being test depended the rest of my life...
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Thanks man.
Being on juice at 26 was fun, but I guess it takes it toll later on and now at 37 with wife and family, being on seems selfish and foolish but yet, I don't want to stop. Kind of like saying you are not allowed to have fun ever again.
I guess, I'll just continue to cycle on and off, just hate being off, but I would hate even more being test depended the rest of my life...
see, that's the problem with makīng the decision you did back then when you were young. there are upsides and downsides to jumping on to gear, but maybe you didn't consider the downsides as well as you should have.
now you're in a position where you MUST make the tough decisions.
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can you pinpoint exactly what it is that would make you think it's foolish and selfish, as you say? you mentioned making scratch, so it isn't the money (right?)
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and btw, your low test levels will make you feel like shit. you will feel depressed and terrible, so that's probably not going to help anything.
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can you pinpoint exactly what it is that would make you think it's foolish and selfish, as you say? you mentioned making scratch, so it isn't the money (right?)
Foolish to put my health in jeopardy when I have a family and little kids that depend on me...
I did an aggressive pct so hopefully my natural levels are back to normal,,, going to check that next week
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Foolish to put my health in jeopardy when I have a family and little kids that depend on me...
yes, i caught on to that (late). i understand where you're coming from. you don't want to deal with the thought of leaving your kids too early when any doubt exists about health issues.
I did an aggressive pct so hopefully my natural levels are back to normal,,, going to check that next week
maybe ride out the storm. if you can have normal test levels, it will allow you to count your blessings and move on.
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only two months after being on for 5 months I wouldnt say your test has bounced back alot yet.
Here in Europe a doctor would consider low test still acceptable, preferable to being slightly above the upper limit (Me)
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I'm not going on HRt, just don't believe in taking test the rest of my life.
I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Any energy tips? Bcaa? Would gh be of benefit?
I'm 37, 2 kids, own a small biz etc... So life is stressful but can't do anything about that
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Eliminate ALL white flour, sugars, starches, processed foods. Eat a lot more fresh spinach, kale, good ole broccoli with your protein...
Message me in one month that your feeling SO MUCH better!!!!
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eh hes off gear thats why hes tired all the time lol
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Stress and anxiety can cause all that lack of energy. I am on the same train as you and only 39.
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It's official: you're old! Welcome to my world. ;D
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Stress and anxiety can cause all that lack of energy. I am on the same train as you and only 39.
Yes, constant sympathetic arousal can fry the adrenals. Amp up, crash.. Amp up, crash. That sure leads to long term fatigue and depression. Even practicing and re-training proper breathing patterns can help eliminate fatigue, depression, etc.
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Right now I'm off x 2 months and plan on staying off for 5-6 months more. My last cycle was 5 months.
This is why you are tired all the time.
Your body is still recovering for your last cycle and PCT.
Takes up to 6 months for a proper rebound, assuming you had a healthy HPTA before your cycle. Hopefully, you have a baseline of bloodwork prior to your cycle to compare to.
Good luck, it gets better in a few months.
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This is why you are tired all the time.
Your body is still recovering for your last cycle and PCT.
Takes up to 6 months for a proper rebound, assuming you had a healthy HPTA before your cycle. Hopefully, you have a baseline of bloodwork prior to your cycle to compare to.
Good luck, it gets better in a few months.
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Just wait for the light at the tunnel end. If you honestly feel you're risking cheating your kids (and it's not a bad thing to be concerned about), then just wait to return to normal. But as far as cycling up and down, I don't think it's fair to your kids because they're probably going to wonder wtf is happening w dad.
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Just wait for the light at the tunnel end. If you honestly feel you're risking cheating your kids (and it's not a bad thing to be concerned about), then just wait to return to normal. But as far as cycling up and down, I don't think it's fair to your kids because they're probably going to wonder wtf is happening w dad.
But my cycles are light, gain about 15 pounds and slowly lose it over maybe 4-5 months, then I repeat it back up .
Just feels healthier to resume and start natural test production up.
I went from 216 to 239, been off 2 months and now at 236. I feel like aggressive pct help preserve the gains but also continue to train hard etc. yes, not as sharp, but with shirt on, I still look almost the same as when on.
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But my cycles are light, gain about 15 pounds and slowly lose it over maybe 4-5 months, then I repeat it back up .
Just feels healthier to resume and start natural test production up.
I went from 216 to 239, been off 2 months and now at 236. I feel like aggressive pct help preserve the gains but also continue to train hard etc. yes, not as sharp, but with shirt on, I still look almost the same as when on.
You are shutted down bro.
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Thanks for the replies. Going to try the red ginseng and moranga
Wish there was something I could take to raise my test and make me feel good that wasn't test! Lol!
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You don't worry about heart disease or prostate cancer?
wes is like 98 years old, he done it right
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I'm not going on HRt, just don't believe in taking test the rest of my life.
I am trying to cut out all the caffeine I drink. But already get sleep etc, don't drink and work out 3-4 times a week
Happened to me too after 35. Tired all the time, no energy. It gets worse after 40+ :D
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I'm going way out in left field here. How about listen to your body and take it easy for a week - go to bed early, get plenty of sleep, eat good food, go easy on the booze, etc?
Or you could cast around for some high octane combo that lets you just ignore what your body is asking for.
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Everything ends. Everything good, everything bad. We are all just tiny little spots of shit in this humongous place called the world. One day I will be 35, then 45, then 55, so what? We all age. Even a dumb ass like my self had a chance to be really young once in my life, granted 28 isn't super old but it's much older than lets say 19 or 20. But that's life, you age, you age some more and then you die.
Most people claim to be real but they keep chasing fantasy and I don't want to think that's the meaning of life, to enjoy as much of things that don't really have nothing to do with survival or living, not even living a "good life".
As cliche as it sounds full body training helps to feel good. Training biceps and shoulders separately may work for someone on gear but if you're a natty I think sprints, gymnastics or whatever and occasional weight lifting is the key to not feel so tired, especially when you age more imo
On gear you don't have to think about these things, you just do gear, eat good, take a shit and your glutes will get tight.
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I'm going way out in left field here. How about listen to your body and take it easy for a week - go to bed early, get plenty of sleep, eat good food, go easy on the booze, etc?
Or you could cast around for some high octane combo that lets you just ignore what your body is asking for.
Prob best advice yet.... Cutting down on alcohol and caffiene plus plenty of water and solid sleep do it for me... Always seems like a miracle when I commit to it. Then it works and I dismiss it again.