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Title: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2016, 11:35:46 AM
This piece of crap has no proof what so ever. Hopefully the KGB is watching his every move. He's fucking with the wrong country and take in fact that even our own military hates him.


Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/29/obama-orders-sanctions-against-russia-expels-operatives-in-response-to-hacking.html
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Dos Equis on December 29, 2016, 11:38:00 AM
This piece of crap has no proof what so ever. Hopefully the KGB is watching his every move. He's fucking with the wrong country and take in fact that even our own military hates him.


Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/29/obama-orders-sanctions-against-russia-expels-operatives-in-response-to-hacking.html

More legislating through executive orders. 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 29, 2016, 11:46:03 AM

What they sanctioned this time?
Banned Chechen leader Kadyrov from entering USA? Oh, that brutal measure was already taken  ;D
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 29, 2016, 12:06:46 PM
He is most likely just trying to foil the possible healing of relations between the countries when Trump assumes the power.
Obama is mad Russia kicked his ass in Syria.

Trump has said he doesn't believe it was Russians who did the hacking. Trump must be pretty informed about things at this point. He has probably pretty much the same intelligence Obama gets.

Obama seems to have resorted to scorched earth tactics.
 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 29, 2016, 12:13:45 PM
I'm sure Putin is quaking in his boots at Fagbama w two weeks left in his failed presidency  ::)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 12:55:56 PM
Jesus Christ, look what the .gov released today...

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf (https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf)

Read the fucking disclaimer at the top. Let me know if your interpretation is, I wanna know if it is the same as mine.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: loco on December 29, 2016, 01:06:47 PM
Jesus Christ, look what the .gov released today...

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf (https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf)

Read the fucking disclaimer at the top. Let me know if your interpretation is, I wanna know if it is the same as mine.

Hmmm, that they can't guarantee the accuracy of any of this BS?
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
Hmmm, that they can't guarantee the accuracy of any of this BS?

Exactly.

And then they go on to demonstrate how a simple phishing scheme works.

Jesus Christ. This just got 30+ Russian diplomats kicked out of the U.S.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 29, 2016, 01:26:32 PM
Quite weak document.
Although I don't know how you can present concrete evidence of hacking. You don't have photos of blown vault door to show. 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 29, 2016, 01:36:21 PM
Response:

“In our point of view such actions of the US current administration are a manifestation of an unpredictable and even aggressive foreign policy,”

The US restrictions won’t be left unanswered by Moscow, Peskov said, promising “adequate, reciprocal” reaction “that will deliver significant discomfort to the US side in the same areas.”

However, he added that “there’s no need to rush” with the countermeasures against Washington.

"Considering the current transition period in Washington, we still expect that we’ll be able to get rid of such clumsy actions… of behaving like a bull in a china shop, and that we’ll be able to make mutual joint steps to enter on the path of normalization of our bilateral relations," the spokesman said.



https://www.rt.com/news/372191-kremlin-obama-administration-sanctions/
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: GigantorX on December 29, 2016, 02:09:43 PM
Jesus Christ, look what the .gov released today...

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf (https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf)

Read the fucking disclaimer at the top. Let me know if your interpretation is, I wanna know if it is the same as mine.

It's for information purposes only and its accuracy can't be guaranteed by DHS/FBI/CIA/GOV or anyone else. To dig deeper......it's a diagram of what they think could have happened or maybe happened, or didn't happen but might have happened. It's fantasy. They can't even really nail down if these "hacker groups" (oh brother) are actually Russian, let alone being directed by the Russian government. There is no evidence here.

Let us get this straight, right down to it, the measures taken today are actions taken in the event of war or near war. All of this being done and the U.S. govt still hasn't been able to produce one single shred of evidence that links the Russian government to anything that they claimed happened, nor can the media or government produce one single verifiable, named and corroborated source that can speak to any of the prior leaks to the media by "anonymous officials" with "knowledge of the matter...i.e. the fraudulent NYT article and the lame, unsourced WaPo article. And again, this is still about the DNC emails and Podesta emails, nothing else. Problem is that Podesta feel for a 3rd rate phishing scam and technically wasn't hacked. The arguement for "Russian Meddling" in our election is based on the assertion that the RNC wasn't hacked for a reason or it was and the "Meddlers" didn't release it....both of those have been proven false yet this narrative continues...I wonder why.

This is strictly to leave a parting shot at President Trump, to poison the well before he even takes the Oath of Office and to try and box him into a corner from day one. Obama has taken more hard action against a PEOTUS than he has against the Russians and Iranians and Chinese in his 8 years of office.

Think about that.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2016, 02:27:53 PM
This is equivalent to evicting a problem tenant then they destroy the property on their way out. Total dirtbag tenants.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 29, 2016, 02:36:47 PM
He is most likely just trying to foil the possible healing of relations between the countries when Trump assumes the power.
Obama is mad Russia kicked his ass in Syria.

Trump has said he doesn't believe it was Russians who did the hacking. Trump must be pretty informed about things at this point. He has probably pretty much the same intelligence Obama gets.

Obama seems to have resorted to scorched earth tactics.

Too bad Trump doesn't read it.   ;D
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Nick Danger on December 29, 2016, 02:37:25 PM
All 17 intelligence agencies and 99% of the Senate...that's one hell of a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 29, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
Amazing how you guys support a communist regime just because your man child leader does.  What a bunch of traitor fucking cucks!
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2016, 02:39:09 PM
Too bad Trump doesn't read it.   ;D


Back for more beatings, Rob
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 03:00:16 PM
All 17 intelligence agencies and 99% of the Senate...that's one hell of a conspiracy.

Funny, they said the same thing about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.  ::)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on December 29, 2016, 03:10:32 PM
Amazing how you guys support a communist regime just because your man child leader does.  What a bunch of traitor fucking cucks!

Agreed....meanwhile these guys are supposed to be patriots???????
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 03:11:54 PM
(((Some People))) would love nothing more than to see two White, Christian nations tear each other apart.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Nick Danger on December 29, 2016, 03:15:14 PM
Funny, they said the same thing about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.  ::)

No they didn't, they were quite skeptical. Rumsfeld and Cheney chose to disregard their concerns.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 03:17:09 PM
No they didn't, they were quite skeptical. Rumsfeld and Cheney chose to disregard their concerns.


the Democratic-led Senate voted 77-23 for a war powers resolution negotiated between the White House and congressional leaders backing a possible use of force to rid Iraq of suspected weapons of mass destruction and possibly oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on December 29, 2016, 03:17:24 PM
(((Some People))) would love nothing more than to see two White, Christian nations tear each other apart.



Russia is already doing that to a lot of white Christian nations in Europe
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: GigantorX on December 29, 2016, 03:18:26 PM
All 17 intelligence agencies and 99% of the Senate...that's one hell of a conspiracy.

"All 17 intelligence agencies...." Oh, which ones said what, exactly?

The only Intel agency to go on record for any of this was the ODNI and they said they have no actual evidence that linked the Russian government to the hack/leaks. None. Zero.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 03:25:56 PM
Russia is already doing that to a lot of white Christian nations in Europe

Please feel free to elaborate.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: GigantorX on December 29, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
Too bad Trump doesn't read it.   ;D

President Obama rarely went to his Intel briefings.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Straw Man on December 29, 2016, 03:38:10 PM
This piece of crap has no proof what so ever. Hopefully the KGB is watching his every move. He's fucking with the wrong country and take in fact that even our own military hates him.


Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/29/obama-orders-sanctions-against-russia-expels-operatives-in-response-to-hacking.html

Bravo Comrade

You really love Mother Russia

I'm sure the CIA and FBI are just making this shit up because they are loyal to Obama and don't actually care anything about their jobs or their reputation

http://wpo.st/wF-P2
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Straw Man on December 29, 2016, 03:38:41 PM
More legislating through executive orders. 

As soon as Trump starts doing the same thing you'll suddenly have no problem with it
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 29, 2016, 03:47:16 PM
Amazing how you guys support a communist regime just because your man child leader does.  What a bunch of traitor fucking cucks!

Who's communist regime?
In case you talk about Russia, show your tax rates.

Flat 13 in RUS bro
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/personal-income-tax-rate

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: GigantorX on December 29, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
Bravo Comrade

You really love Mother Russia

I'm sure the CIA and FBI are just making this shit up because they are loyal to Obama and don't actually care anything about their jobs or their reputation

http://wpo.st/wF-P2

They still haven't presented any proof, Straw. This 13 page report doesn't link anything to the Russian governemt, the disclaimer admits that and the ultimate conclusion from all of those unsourced articles was that they (Intel Agencies) didn't have any evidence that linked the Russian government to the DNC email fiasco. None. Ben Rhodes admitted it, Obama admitted it and Clapper admitted it.

These are extreme steps to be taking with no real proof. Assertions and allegations aren't proof.

It's just funny, after 8 years of Obama rolling over for Putin and Russia he chooses now to do something like this? Plenty of justified times to drop this hammer in the past.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Straw Man on December 29, 2016, 03:57:41 PM
They still haven't presented any proof, Straw. This 13 page report doesn't link anything to the Russian governemt, the disclaimer admits that and the ultimate conclusion from all of those unsourced articles was that they (Intel Agencies) didn't have any evidence that linked the Russian government to the DNC email fiasco. None. Ben Rhodes admitted it, Obama admitted it and Clapper admitted it.

These are extreme steps to be taking with no real proof. Assertions and allegations aren't proof.

It's just funny, after 8 years of Obama rolling over for Putin and Russia he chooses now to do something like this? Plenty of justified times to drop this hammer in the past.



Does the CIA and FBI disclose this kind of info to the public

I'm sure the Senate Intelligence Committee has seen the info along with the White House
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: obsidian on December 29, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
Does the CIA and FBI disclose this kind of info to the public

I'm sure the Senate Intelligence Committee has seen the info along with the White House
Why not? Their track record is horrendous. The CIA and FBI can be trusted a whole 0%! Since when do they have credibility? The only option for them always should be to provide proof of their claims. Saying we have this info believe us does not fly in 2017. This is not 2001 anymore.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: obsidian on December 29, 2016, 04:11:11 PM
Dindus and half dindus coming out in full force to support Obama and his bogus claims / actions.

To all the Dindus that don't get it yet:

Putin >>> Obama

This will always be the case. You need to invent an alternate Universe where this will ever be different.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: obsidian on December 29, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
As soon as Trump starts doing the same thing you'll suddenly have no problem with it
You're projecting. Let's cross that bridge when we get to it!
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2016, 04:14:18 PM
More legislating through executive orders. 

Unless Congress agrees with Trump's proposals, etc., my guess is that he'll legislating through executive orders or by veto.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2016, 04:27:15 PM
Funny, they said the same thing about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.  ::)

They who?

"President George W. Bush has got a very serious problem. Before asking Congress for a Joint Resolution authorizing the use of American military forces in Iraq, he made a number of unequivocal statements about the reason the United States needed to pursue the most radical actions any nation can undertake -- acts of war against another nation. Now it is clear that many of his statements appear to be false. In the past, Bush's White House has been very good at sweeping ugly issues like this under the carpet and out of sight. But it is not clear that they will be able to make the question of what happened to Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) go away -- unless, perhaps, they start another war." - See more at: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1506#sthash.dQSZmEPp.dpuf

The phrase weapons of mass destruction was originally coined by the London Times in 1937 in an article describing the bombing of the Basque town of Guernica, Spain ...
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 29, 2016, 04:49:49 PM
They who?



The Powers that Be.

you won't see me kissing ass of Republicans or Dems; considering that both have the same handlers.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2016, 04:55:42 PM
Bravo Comrade

You really love Mother Russia

I'm sure the CIA and FBI are just making this shit up because they are loyal to Obama and don't actually care anything about their jobs or their reputation

http://wpo.st/wF-P2

Obama is doing purely on the notion that they think Russia hacked into the emails to sway our elections, he has zero proof of that, ZERO. However, even they did who gives a shit, it's wasn't their words in those emails. Just fucking accept GD fact that Killary lost the election on her own, her words, her actions, her own doing. She was just exposed. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2016, 05:33:23 PM
The Powers that Be.

you won't see me kissing ass of Republicans or Dems; considering that both have the same handlers.

My guess is that you're about 80% right on this, but it could be more. Politicians are strange animals. Once they get elected to office (the club) they will do pretty much anything it takes to remain a member. Put another way, most politicians are all about getting elected and re-elected. Because a lot of the rest of us are too lazy to demand a change, career politicians are pretty successful and abundant. Anybody who desired to be a "soch" or maybe was one in high school relives that experience as an adult when they become a politician.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Nick Danger on December 29, 2016, 05:34:17 PM
Obama is doing purely on the notion that they think Russia hacked into the emails to sway our elections, he has zero proof of that, ZERO. However, even they did who gives a shit, it's wasn't their words in those emails. Just fucking accept GD fact that Killary lost the election on her own, her words, her actions, her own doing. She was just exposed. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

Are you so short sighted?

This has little to do with the outcome of the election. Why do you think the republicans in the senate voted the same way?

"Nevertheless, we stand behind our election results, which accurately reflect the will of the American people." - Obama

It has everything to do with National Security.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Kazan on December 29, 2016, 06:09:01 PM
Does the CIA and FBI disclose this kind of info to the public

I'm sure the Senate Intelligence Committee has seen the info along with the White House

Yes makes perfect sense, say something happened but present no evidence. And since this supposedly influenced the election, your damn right they should release proof to the public. Is it a national security issue? Well I would think that putting a Manchurian Candidate in the office of POTUS would be a hell of a lot more of a national security issue...........
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2016, 06:46:42 PM
Yes makes perfect sense, say something happened but present no evidence. And since this supposedly influenced the election, your damn right they should release proof to the public. Is it a national security issue? Well I would think that putting a Manchurian Candidate in the office of POTUS would be a hell of a lot more of a national security issue...........


It appears you are going on the premise that the public is usually informed, which is just not in this case. Do I think they have the right to be....hell yes!

It's apparent that the uninformed on both sides of the political spectrum, who wish they had proof, believe it made a difference. The right because they want to make sure Trump stays the course and the left because they feel slighted and are let down. Why else would folks get so heated about it?
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Kazan on December 29, 2016, 07:03:22 PM
It appears you are going on the premise that the public is usually informed, which is just not in this case. Do I think they have the right to be....hell yes!

It's apparent that the uninformed on both sides of the political spectrum, who wish they had proof, believe it made a difference. The right because they want to make sure Trump stays the course and the left because they feel slighted and are let down. Why else would folks get so heated about it?

Well I voted third party so my opinion of either of those assclowns is pretty low. My concern is .gov can float some unsubstantiated bullshit out there and just expect the American public to accept it as fact. No that is not good enough, and the current POTUS poking the bear a month before he leaves office is just fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2016, 07:27:49 PM
Well I voted third party so my opinion of either of those assclowns is pretty low. My concern is .gov can float some unsubstantiated bullshit out there and just expect the American public to accept it as fact. No that is not good enough, and the current POTUS poking the bear a month before he leaves office is just fucking stupid.

I suspect we will have more of the same with the new administration.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 29, 2016, 08:41:49 PM
Are you so short sighted?

This has little to do with the outcome of the election. Why do you think the republicans in the senate voted the same way?

"Nevertheless, we stand behind our election results, which accurately reflect the will of the American people." - Obama

It has everything to do with National Security.

This has nothing to do with National Security otherwise he would have taken some kind of action years ago and not 22 days before he gets evicted.

The left..including Obama has never accepted the results of the outcome of this election because he knew  putting Clinton in would have been an extension of his presidency but instead he/her got rejected because people didn't want a repeat of the last eight years. They've blamed everyone from Comey, to Huma Abadine and as one last ditch effort, the Russians. Please, their ego's can't accept this.

Just to add, his "legacy" is fucked as if he ever had one.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 30, 2016, 03:10:55 AM
Rino Ryan, Lindsey Graham, and McCain:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/paul-ryan-capitulates-welcomes-obamas-overdue-russia-retaliation/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/paul-ryan-capitulates-welcomes-obamas-overdue-russia-retaliation/)

If there ever were swamp dwellers, they'd be some of the landlords.

They want even stronger sanctions on Russia.  ???




Jesus, I am becoming a Russian sympathizer...  :-\
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 30, 2016, 03:13:35 AM
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-government-attacks-drudge-report-conservative-website-down-because-distributed-2467391 (http://www.ibtimes.com/us-government-attacks-drudge-report-conservative-website-down-because-distributed-2467391)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 05:38:29 AM
Putin Stunner: "We Will Not Expel Anyone; We Refuse To Sink To Obama's Level"
ZeroHedge ^ | Dec 30, 201 | Tyler Durden
Posted on 12/30/2016, 8:18:19 AM by FR_addict

Vladimir the merciful?

Following this morning's reports that Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov would recommend to Russian President Vladimir Putin a retaliation in kind, and expel 35 American diplomats, saying that “we cannot leave such acts unanswered. Reciprocity is part of diplomatic law" with Putin spokesman Peskov adding that "there is no doubt that Russia's adequate and mirror response will make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable as well", it was ultimately up to Putin to decide how to respond to the US.

Which he did on Friday morning, when in a stunning reversal, the Russian leader took the high road, and in a Kremlin statement said that, contrary to expectations, Russia won’t expel any Americans in retaliation to US moves, in a brutal demonstration of just how irrelevant Obama's 11th hour decision is for US-Russian relations.

In the statement Putin said that Russia won’t cause problems to U.S. diplomats or deport anyone, adding that Russia has the right to respond in tit-for-tat manner, but it will not engage in irresponsible diplomacy.

The punchline, however, was saved for what may be Russia's final slam of the debacle that is Obama's administration saying that "It’s a pity that the current U.S. administration is finishing their work in such a manner" saying that Russia refuses "to sink to the level of this irresponsible "kitchen" diplomacy."

Putin ended the statement by congratulating U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, and the American people on the New Year and invited the children of US diplomats to a holiday celebration at the Kremlin.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...







President Limp Dick made to look useless yet again. 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 30, 2016, 05:53:46 AM

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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Kazan on December 30, 2016, 05:56:20 AM
I suspect we will have more of the same with the new administration.

Then the fucking American people need to get off their asses and demand the information be made available.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 06:18:36 AM
Amazing how under this failed kenyan twink commie loser limp dick pos - Russia and all our previous enemies are stronger than ever. 

This pos cant go away soon enough. 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 30, 2016, 06:24:12 AM
Rino Ryan, Lindsey Graham, and McCain:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/paul-ryan-capitulates-welcomes-obamas-overdue-russia-retaliation/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/paul-ryan-capitulates-welcomes-obamas-overdue-russia-retaliation/)

If there ever were swamp dwellers, they'd be some of the landlords.

They want even stronger sanctions on Russia.  ???




Jesus, I am becoming a Russian sympathizer...  :-\

Trump’s Border Wall, Deportation Plans Face Pushback From GOP

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-30/trump-s-border-wall-deportation-plans-face-pushback-from-gop (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-30/trump-s-border-wall-deportation-plans-face-pushback-from-gop)





I guess these asshats haven't learned their lesson yet.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 30, 2016, 06:26:04 AM
Putin won't expel anyone.  What a tough guy.  He's bowing down to Obama's BBCuck!  Hilarious!
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 30, 2016, 06:27:21 AM
President Obama rarely went to his Intel briefings.

So Obama = Trump?   8)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 06:55:15 AM
STUNNING Move by Putin
Independent Sentinel ^ | December 30, 2016 | S. Noble
Posted on 12/30/2016, 9:41:38 AM by KeyLargo

STUNNING Move by Putin By S. Noble - December 30, 2016

Putin refuses “to sink to the level of this irresponsible “kitchen” diplomacy.”

In a stunning move, the Russian President Vladimir Putin will not retaliate against Obama’s sanctions. They took the high road. Russia, they said, refuses “to sink to the level of this irresponsible “kitchen” diplomacy.”

The cagey President got all his licks in yesterday through his foreign minister and spokesman who talked of Obama’s “paranoia”.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday that he would recommend an equivalent response to Obama’s retaliation for unproven allegations of hacking. The Russian spokesman Peskov said that the Russians would mirror the response and “make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable as well”.

This morning, the Russian President took the road Obama never takes – the high road!. A Kremlin statement said that Russia will not expel any Americans in retaliation to U.S. moves.

The only thing that could make Obama look more irrelevant than calling him a lame duck as the Russians did yesterday is to ignore his 11th hour attack.

In the Kremlin’s statement Putin said that Russia won’t cause problems to U.S. diplomats or deport anyone, adding that Russia has the right to respond in tit-for-tat manner, but it will not engage in irresponsible diplomacy.

The punchline was striking. “It’s a pity that the current U.S. administration is finishing their work in such a manner”, adding that Russia refuses “to sink to the level of this irresponsible “kitchen” diplomacy.”

Putin ended by congratulating U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, and the American people on the New Year and invited the children of U.S. diplomats to a holiday celebration at the Kremlin.

With one statement, Obama lost the diplomatic war to Putin

From the full statement posted on the Kremlin website [translated page]:

(Excerpt) Read more at independentsentinel.com ...
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 30, 2016, 07:27:48 AM
STUNNING Move by Putin
Independent Sentinel ^ | December 30, 2016 | S. Noble
Posted on 12/30/2016, 9:41:38 AM by KeyLargo

STUNNING Move by Putin By S. Noble - December 30, 2016

Putin refuses “to sink to the level of this irresponsible “kitchen” diplomacy.”

In a stunning move, the Russian President Vladimir Putin will not retaliate against Obama’s sanctions. They took the high road. Russia, they said, refuses “to sink to the level of this irresponsible “kitchen” diplomacy.”

The cagey President got all his licks in yesterday through his foreign minister and spokesman who talked of Obama’s “paranoia”.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday that he would recommend an equivalent response to Obama’s retaliation for unproven allegations of hacking. The Russian spokesman Peskov said that the Russians would mirror the response and “make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable as well”.

This morning, the Russian President took the road Obama never takes – the high road!. A Kremlin statement said that Russia will not expel any Americans in retaliation to U.S. moves.

The only thing that could make Obama look more irrelevant than calling him a lame duck as the Russians did yesterday is to ignore his 11th hour attack.

In the Kremlin’s statement Putin said that Russia won’t cause problems to U.S. diplomats or deport anyone, adding that Russia has the right to respond in tit-for-tat manner, but it will not engage in irresponsible diplomacy.

The punchline was striking. “It’s a pity that the current U.S. administration is finishing their work in such a manner”, adding that Russia refuses “to sink to the level of this irresponsible “kitchen” diplomacy.”

Putin ended by congratulating U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, and the American people on the New Year and invited the children of U.S. diplomats to a holiday celebration at the Kremlin.

With one statement, Obama lost the diplomatic war to Putin

From the full statement posted on the Kremlin website [translated page]:

(Excerpt) Read more at independentsentinel.com ...

This is fake news you fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 07:28:42 AM
This is fake news you fucking idiot.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-30/putin-stunner-we-will-not-expel-anyone-we-refuse-sink-obamas-level

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Dos Equis on December 30, 2016, 07:46:09 AM
This is fake news you fucking idiot.

No it isn't. 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/30/putin-vows-not-to-stoop-to-obamas-level-after-us-kicks-out-russian-intel-operatives.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-eyes-expelling-u-s-diplomats-retaliation-sanctions-n701431

Now what does that make you? 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 07:47:31 AM
No it isn't. 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/30/putin-vows-not-to-stoop-to-obamas-level-after-us-kicks-out-russian-intel-operatives.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-eyes-expelling-u-s-diplomats-retaliation-sanctions-n701431

Now what does that make you? 

Obama should just stay banging queer dudes in Hawaii and golfing - he is still showing he has learned nothing at all and is at best an international joke
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Dos Equis on December 30, 2016, 07:49:52 AM
Obama should just stay banging queer dudes in Hawaii and golfing - he is still showing he has learned nothing at all and is at best an international joke

No he should not.   >:(  He needs to stay off my island and go back to his hometown of Chicago. 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 07:51:05 AM
No he should not.   >:(  He needs to stay off my island and go back to his hometown of MOOMBASAA, kENYA. 


Agreed 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mazrim on December 30, 2016, 08:59:03 AM
This is fake news you fucking idiot.
Wow, I think this post should be quoted after every post you make from now on...
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on December 30, 2016, 09:11:58 AM
Amazing how under this failed kenyan twink commie loser limp dick pos - Russia and all our previous enemies are stronger than ever. 

This pos cant go away soon enough. 

stronger in what way?....I know I'm digging myself into a hole by asking you to explain something.....
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on December 30, 2016, 09:16:09 AM
No it isn't. 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/30/putin-vows-not-to-stoop-to-obamas-level-after-us-kicks-out-russian-intel-operatives.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-eyes-expelling-u-s-diplomats-retaliation-sanctions-n701431

Now what does that make you? 

you're the idiot....Saint Anger is right..it is fake news in that it was orchestrated by Putin and his lackey, Lavrov, ...they choreographed that whole thing but you're so anti-Obama you can't see it....you've actually become dumber than Soul Crusher
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 30, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
you're the idiot....Saint Anger is right..it is fake news in that it was orchestrated by Putin and his lackey, Lavrov, ...they choreographed that whole thing but you're so anti-Obama you can't see it....you've actually become dumber than Soul Crusher

They choreographed maturity, world class diplomacy and positive spirit  ???

American diplomats can stay, Putin wished you all happy new year and invited your kids to party.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on December 30, 2016, 09:24:28 AM
They orchestrated maturity and positive spirit  ???


yes to make themselves look magnanimous you stupid idiot...do you actually think a lackey of Putin is going to come out AHEAD of Putin and contradict him????????????.......Putin calls the shots
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 30, 2016, 09:32:53 AM
yes to make themselves look magnanimous you stupid idiot...do you actually think a lackey of Putin is going to come out AHEAD of Putin and contradict him????????????.......Putin calls the shots

President is higher in hierarchy than foreign minister so of course he makes the final decision.
But I doubt Putin would know every foreign diplomat in Russia or their positions. Naturally it's someone else preparing the suggestion for him.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: bike nut on December 30, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
Obama's "response to hacking".

Too funny.

The incompetent clown cuts off internet access to Assange in Ecuador in October and the next day a group of school kids take the entire U.S. internet backbone down.

Two months later and Obama still has no clue what happened or who was responsible.

Here are a few clues Barry; Hillary lost because she leads a lying, thieving criminal organization and represented a continuation of your failed policies
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 10:59:11 AM
yes to make themselves look magnanimous you stupid idiot...do you actually think a lackey of Putin is going to come out AHEAD of Putin and contradict him????????????.......Putin calls the shots

tRUMP blow upo doll in delivery to your slum in hunts point?
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Howard on December 30, 2016, 11:03:46 AM
Amazing how you guys support a communist regime just because your man child leader does.  What a bunch of traitor fucking cucks!

I can't understand that either.

How can anyone believe they are more patriotic by backing the leader of Russia over our own President and Intelligence agencies.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Kazan on December 30, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
I can't understand that either.

How can anyone believe they are more patriotic by backing the leader of Russia over our own President and Intelligence agencies.

I don't think it is backing Putin, it is simply not believing what .gov is trying to sell. If this is such a big deal, so much that diplomat's become PNG's, the American people need to see the proof, simple
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: bike nut on December 30, 2016, 11:11:37 AM
I can't understand that either.

How can anyone believe they are more patriotic by backing the leader of Russia over our own President and Intelligence agencies.

How do you equate disagreeing with Obama's petulant, childish temper tantrum he is throwing with backing the leader of Russia?

You're the same person who said you can't support Trump as POTUS, but expect blind loyalty to Obama. Anyone with half a brain can see that obama's final actions as POTUS are meant to cause issues for Republicans and the incoming Trump administration. He has never put the good of the country above his own personal agenda.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 30, 2016, 01:30:53 PM
How do you equate disagreeing with Obama's petulant, childish temper tantrum he is throwing with backing the leader of Russia?

You're the same person who said you can't support Trump as POTUS, but expect blind loyalty to Obama. Anyone with half a brain can see that obama's final actions as POTUS are meant to cause issues for Republicans and the incoming Trump administration. He has never put the good of the country above his own personal agenda.

you are arguing with a retard.

let it be; his political views are determined by which way the wind is blowing
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Las Vegas on December 30, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Yeah, but imo that's exactly as it's meant... Howie said "how can you believe Russia over our own Intelligence and President" (similar)

That's it, right there.  Everyone is supposed to stop thinking right after arriving at that point.

Problem is, we're dealing with known liars.  It puts us in quite a spot.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 30, 2016, 01:46:00 PM
Trump is getting destroyed by SJWs on social media for this tweet:

(https://i.sli.mg/8p1IOP.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2016, 01:51:05 PM
This has nothing to do with National Security otherwise he would have taken some kind of action years ago and not 22 days before he gets evicted.

The left..including Obama has never accepted the results of the outcome of this election because he knew  putting Clinton in would have been an extension of his presidency but instead he/her got rejected because people didn't want a repeat of the last eight years. They've blamed everyone from Comey, to Huma Abadine and as one last ditch effort, the Russians. Please, their ego's can't accept this.

Just to add, his "legacy" is fucked as if he ever had one.

The Russian hacking in question didn't happen "years ago" it happened this year. It's difficult to take action against the Russians before they've supposedly committed the offense.

Russian hacking was suspected months before the election, so this is hardly a last ditch effort. Besides that, even if there is absolute proof the Russians hacked the DNC at this point discovering it would not change the anything, unless of course it could be proved that Trump was in collusion with Russia (Putin).
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 30, 2016, 01:58:53 PM
Trump is getting destroyed by SJWs on social media for this tweet:

(https://i.sli.mg/8p1IOP.jpg)

WOW!
I was afraid Mr. Trump has been told not to comment on this. But he really seems to be too independent. Mad respect for Trump.

There is no denying world will take totally new swing if Putin and Trump are able to work together at least on some common understanding. Bring on the 2017
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/russian-president-vladimir-putin-makes-a-toast-during-a-reception-at-picture-id171541001)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 30, 2016, 02:11:08 PM
(https://i.sli.mg/Y0dN3D.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: obsidian on December 30, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
Trump is getting destroyed by SJWs on social media for this tweet:

(https://i.sli.mg/8p1IOP.jpg)
Perfect!
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Skeletor on December 30, 2016, 02:43:32 PM
(https://i.sli.mg/Y0dN3D.jpg)

What a crook.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 30, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Trump is getting destroyed by SJWs on social media for this tweet:

(https://i.sli.mg/8p1IOP.jpg)

Hey are bitter that fagama looks like a limp dick
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 30, 2016, 06:04:51 PM
Trump could tweet GMO foods are safe after buying Monsanto stock, and you fucking cucks will suddenly say, "Oh, I agree!  Make that TWO servings, James!"
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on December 30, 2016, 06:05:23 PM
Trump could tweet GMO foods are safe after buying Monsanto stock, and you fucking cucks will suddenly say, "Oh, I agree!  Make that TWO servings, James!"

Welcome to the past 8 years.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 30, 2016, 06:15:47 PM
Welcome to the past 8 years.

What the hell planet do you live on man?  I'm serious.  You Trump guys are like... WTF?  Do you just hate this guy that much or do you REALLY feel this way, like, honestly at your core?

I'm being serious.  Legit question.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Option D on December 30, 2016, 06:45:53 PM
Amazing how you guys support a communist regime just because your man child leader does.  What a bunch of traitor fucking cucks!

its sickening to actually call them fellow Americans. These men arent patriots. I dont know what to call them... Its sickening tho. Sad day
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Maddy on December 30, 2016, 06:47:39 PM


if Trump
was black
he would have
your support
racists
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2016, 06:50:51 PM
What the hell planet do you live on man?  I'm serious.  You Trump guys are like... WTF?  Do you just hate this guy that much or do you REALLY feel this way, like, honestly at your core?

I'm being serious.  Legit question.

Trump promised the moon and his supporters bought it. When this doesn't come to fruition, the same people who loved him will hate him more vehemently than those who didn't vote for him. Even before he's sworn in, he continues with his "smoke and mirrors" tactics. This is only going to work for so long. How long? Who can tell? His flock seem to be the most gullible of people.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Kazan on December 30, 2016, 08:00:44 PM
The Russian hacking in question didn't happen "years ago" it happened this year. It's difficult to take action against the Russians before they've supposedly committed the offense.

Russian hacking was suspected months before the election, so this is hardly a last ditch effort. Besides that, even if there is absolute proof the Russians hacked the DNC at this point discovering it would not change the anything, unless of course it could be proved that Trump was in collusion with Russia (Putin).

And it was no big deal, as long as the Dems through Hilary was going to crush Trump. Now all the sudden the sky is falling.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 30, 2016, 09:37:01 PM
Trump promised the moon and his supporters bought it. When this doesn't come to fruition, the same people who loved him will hate him more vehemently than those who didn't vote for him. Even before he's sworn in, he continues with his "smoke and mirrors" tactics. This is only going to work for so long. How long? Who can tell? His flock seem to be the most gullible of people.

Agreed.  This year marks the era of the swarm of stupid.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 31, 2016, 12:15:44 AM
its sickening to actually call them fellow Americans. These men arent patriots. I dont know what to call them... Its sickening tho. Sad day

Why should we buy into this fake news w Russia that faggetbama is selling ?
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 31, 2016, 04:17:43 AM

No one seems to believe the hacking shit anyway. Few fanatics and of course the establishment who need their boogeyman



Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mazrim on December 31, 2016, 07:30:08 AM
Trump could tweet GMO foods are safe after buying Monsanto stock, and you fucking cucks will suddenly say, "Oh, I agree!  Make that TWO servings, James!"
This is fake news you idiot!
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mazrim on December 31, 2016, 07:34:23 AM
What the hell planet do you live on man?  I'm serious.  You Trump guys are like... WTF?  Do you just hate this guy that much or do you REALLY feel this way, like, honestly at your core?

I'm being serious.  Legit question.
This is also fake news you idiot!
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: bike nut on December 31, 2016, 07:36:21 AM
its sickening to actually call them fellow Americans. These men arent patriots. I dont know what to call them... Its sickening tho. Sad day

How patriotic was Benghazi?

Four Americans dead and Hillary Clintons response was, "what does it matter"?

The two pieces of shit currently occupying the White House hate American, whites, and hard working Americans, we get that. A few more days, a good fumigation, and then a hard working successful white man will clean up the black mans mess AGAIN.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mazrim on December 31, 2016, 07:39:09 AM
unless of course it could be proved that Trump was in collusion with Russia (Putin).
Doublestandard democratic lover. Means nothing to you when it is proven Hillary's collusion.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 31, 2016, 07:40:33 AM
One of the hacker spy intelligence operatives expelled was a chef of the consulate  ;D

I wonder if he was as well disguised as the American agent Ryan Fogle Russia snapped some time back - he had Trump wig:

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1136605/images/o-RYAN-FOGLE-VIDEO-facebook.jpg)


Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: bike nut on December 31, 2016, 07:45:37 AM
Doublestandard democratic lover. Means nothing to you when it is proven Hillary's collusion.

The Clintons stole hundreds of millions of dollars of charitable donations for personal use, but Democrats are okay with that because Obama has taught the Snowflake generation his end always justifies his means.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on December 31, 2016, 07:53:20 AM
The Clintons stole hundreds of millions of dollars of charitable donations for personal use, but Democrats are okay with that because Obama has taught the Snowflake generation his end always justifies his means.
If this were the case, they would have been prosecuted......HOWEVER Trump REALLY WAS profiting from HIS foundation......
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on December 31, 2016, 08:06:06 AM

Rolling Stone magazine is the latest to put the accusations in doubt. Great read and provides reasoning why we should be skeptical about the official line of Washington.

Something About This Russia Story Stinks

Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439


Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: bike nut on December 31, 2016, 08:07:10 AM
If this were the case, they would have been prosecuted......HOWEVER Trump REALLY WAS profiting from HIS foundation......

They will be prosecuted.

And convicted.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: loco on December 31, 2016, 08:10:38 AM
The Clintons stole hundreds of millions of dollars of charitable donations for personal use, but Democrats are okay with that because Obama has taught the Snowflake generation his end always justifies his means.

Oh, the Clintons did much, much worse than that.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 31, 2016, 08:38:24 AM
its sickening to actually call them fellow Americans. These men arent patriots. I dont know what to call them... Its sickening tho. Sad day

This has nothing to do whether Putin is a bad guy or not, I think we all know he is. This has everything to do with Obama trying to cock block Trump in every way possible including making up excuses that Russia some how swayed our election process in favor of Trump.....with no proof what so ever. This wouldn't even be an issue if Obama hadn't mettled and brought Russia into this. How hard is this to figure out? The political left can't put egos aside and accept the outcome of the election.

Give them a participation trophy and move on.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 31, 2016, 08:41:05 AM
This has nothing to do whether Putin is a bad guy or not, I think we all know he is. This has everything to do with Obama trying to cock block Trump in every way possible including making up excuses that Russia some how swayed our election process in favor of Trump.....with no proof what so ever. This wouldn't even be an issue if Obama hadn't mettled and brought Russia into this. How hard is this to figure out? The political left can't put egos aside and accept the outcome of the election.

Give them a participation trophy and move on.

So you side with Vladmir Fucking Putin!?  OK Comrade. 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Slapper on December 31, 2016, 08:42:00 AM
Rolling Stone magazine is the latest to put the accusations in doubt. Great read and provides reasoning why we should be skeptical about the official line of Washington.

Something About This Russia Story Stinks

Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/something-about-this-russia-story-stinks-w458439

Co-sing?! When was the American press E. V. E. R. critical of the CIA, the FBI or any other arm of the government?

The American media are A FUCKING JOKE. Tits and bald heads with big mouths.

Remember this?

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/03/24/opinion/errol-morris-NYT-13/errol-morris-rumsfeld-slide-6UJH-blog480.jpg)

Do you think the Jew York Times even bothered investigating the Bush government's allegations? Or the CIA's?

NOPE. They did as they always do: They side with the government and effectively become an arm of the Department of State.

Don't you ever even DREAM for a second that the NYT will tell you the truth.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 31, 2016, 08:44:48 AM
So you side with Vladmir Fucking Putin!?  OK Comrade. 

Holy shit you're an idiot.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: SaintAnger on December 31, 2016, 12:09:55 PM
Holy shit you're an idiot.

You've been all over Trumps nuts.  Anything he says, you cosign.  You worship his cock.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: polychronopolous on December 31, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
Co-sing?! When was the American press E. V. E. R. critical of the CIA, the FBI or any other arm of the government?

The American media are A FUCKING JOKE. Tits and bald heads with big mouths.

Remember this?

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/03/24/opinion/errol-morris-NYT-13/errol-morris-rumsfeld-slide-6UJH-blog480.jpg)

Do you think the Jew York Times even bothered investigating the Bush government's allegations? Or the CIA's?

NOPE. They did as they always do: They side with the government and effectively become an arm of the Department of State.

Don't you ever even DREAM for a second that the NYT will tell you the truth.



This.

If you are still defending Obama and his actions at this point you are not a Liberal or a Progressive. You are a Statist. Pure and Simple.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on January 01, 2017, 01:32:29 PM
You've been all over Trumps nuts.  Anything he says, you cosign.  You worship his cock.


Coach has definitely been sucking hard on Trump's nuts...I've never seen him posting so much since I've been here
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 01, 2017, 01:39:56 PM

Coach has definitely been sucking hard on Trump's nuts...I've never seen him posting so much since I've been here

Hey snowflake - trump train rolling over you - deal w it.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: bike nut on January 01, 2017, 01:50:28 PM
I'm sure Obama is so serious in his dealing with hacking and cyber security that he will prosecute those in the NSA and CIA for hacking and spying on American citizens under his direction and allow Edward Snowden to return home and testify as a whistleblower at the trials.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 01, 2017, 01:55:40 PM

Intelligence operatives, including the consulate chef, have left the building.

(http://ia.tmgrup.com.tr/282458/645/344/0/0/800/427?u=http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/dailysabah/2017/01/01/plane-carrying-expelled-russian-diplomats-leaves-us-1483290044189.jpg)

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on January 02, 2017, 06:47:27 AM
Hey snowflake - trump train rolling over you - deal w it.

you supposedly didn't support him.....but after he surprised you with a win now you're sucking his balls dry
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: andreisdaman on January 02, 2017, 06:48:47 AM
I'm sure Obama is so serious in his dealing with hacking and cyber security that he will prosecute those in the NSA and CIA for hacking and spying on American citizens under his direction and allow Edward Snowden to return home and testify as a whistleblower at the trials.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

what kind of idiot are you??????"under his direction"?...that's been going on for decades...you act as if Obama ordered it
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Kazan on January 02, 2017, 07:30:09 AM
what kind of idiot are you??????"under his direction"?...that's been going on for decades...you act as if Obama ordered it

Yes it has, and we can thank that shit show known as the "patriot act".
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 06, 2017, 08:43:21 AM

Trump is hard exposing the dirty tactics and false-information campaigns.

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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 06, 2017, 09:02:13 AM

They're fucking with the wrong guy

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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 06, 2017, 11:41:06 AM
They're fucking with the wrong guy

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I dont believe a damn thing from this govt in DC any more - all these 3 letter agencies are garbage
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 06, 2017, 12:14:14 PM
They're fucking with the wrong guy

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I've been saying this. All they're doing is stirring up a hornets nest and even though he doesn't have the authority, you can be bet he'll literally "drain the swamp" and make sure all of these corrupt MF'ers will get whats coming to them. You can't stop all corruption but this would be a damn good start with Clinton(s) being the first in line.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Las Vegas on January 06, 2017, 01:34:59 PM
Trump is hard exposing the dirty tactics and false-information campaigns.

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I love it, seriously.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: loco on January 06, 2017, 03:38:51 PM
They're fucking with the wrong guy

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Sticking their penis in a badger hole.

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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 07, 2017, 03:27:32 AM
So here is the report.
Interesting shit although I can notice negative anti-Russia attitude and even lies.

https://www.scribd.com/document/335885421/Declassified-Intelligence-Community-Assessment-of-Russian-Activities-and-Intentions-in-Recent-U-S-Elections#from_embed


No evidence presented, plenty of assumptions and lot of pages devoted to crying about Russian media.
I'm sure Putin would replace heads of Russian intelligence agencies if they after huge investigation presented him with document saying "CNN has anti-Russia stance"  :-\

Report has become a victim of mocking in social media.

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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 07, 2017, 07:07:47 AM

Mr. Trump has woke up!!

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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 07, 2017, 07:16:03 AM
No doubt!

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Local entrepreneurs (which Obama said don't exist in Russia, LOL - country that sells you your rocket engines) are already cashing in on Trump-hype!

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Although they sold Obama ice cream too  ;D

Russia Bids Farewell to Obama With Deliciously Racist Ice Cream

http://observer.com/2016/05/russia-bids-farewell-to-obama-with-deliciously-racist-ice-cream/
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on January 07, 2017, 07:22:24 AM
If this intelligence community is so sure it was Russian State-backed hackers; they should have been aware back in Spring of 2015 when the hacking occured??? Yes? Why such the big deal now?

Also, Hillary was Secretary of State. She knows first hand about the atmosphere regarding cyber war between nations, and yet she was foolish enough to have an unsecure private server to handle classified information.

Not only is it Hillary's own fault, and Podesta's own fault (phishing), it also is our intelligence communities' fault for not correcting the issues we've known about for many of years! (We don't even have to get into why the DNC wouldn't let the FBI investigate their server...)

Why is Trump taking the heat for this?  Huh
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 07, 2017, 07:28:04 AM

Very good from Trump!
Putin has said Russia is ready to co-operate with anyone willing to co-operate with Russia.

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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on January 07, 2017, 08:37:00 AM
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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on January 07, 2017, 10:50:38 AM
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Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2017, 12:07:26 PM
Why is Trump taking the heat for this?  Huh

Because he speaks (tweets) before he thinks. -Explains why he reverses what he has said so often.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2017, 12:11:35 PM
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It may not be a joke, but Trump did say this while debating in front of millions of people. Obama did not make this up and he wasn't telling people something they didn't already know.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Slapper on January 07, 2017, 12:28:29 PM
Folks, having read this man's shit for so long... having been disappointed so many times... Why is what Obama says important at this point?

He is a lying sack of shit. His lying cost his co-crook democratic candidate her election, and Trump is about to inherit a government that is in SERIOUS REAL WORLD difficulties.

Anything Barack says ought to be followed with a "shut the fuck up dumbass!!".   
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mazrim on January 08, 2017, 06:54:01 AM
It may not be a joke, but Trump did say this while debating in front of millions of people. Obama did not make this up and he wasn't telling people something they didn't already know.
Does everything just absolutely soar above your head/intellect?
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on January 08, 2017, 07:20:43 AM
It may not be a joke, but Trump did say this while debating in front of millions of people. Obama did not make this up and he wasn't telling people something they didn't already know.

It is completely foolish, but probably true, to assume that people don't know that cyber warfare has been going on since the inception of the internet...  ::)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 08, 2017, 07:39:05 AM

World in 2035:
old Obama and Kerry spending their retirement days, Edward Snowden is the president and RT is on in Obama house  ;D


Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
Does everything just absolutely soar above your head/intellect?

Everything goes over my head and I'm not that smart. Happy?
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2017, 02:08:29 PM
It is completely foolish, but probably true, to assume that people don't know that cyber warfare has been going on since the inception of the internet...  ::)

Stupid question....How do you know this to be true?
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2017, 02:15:30 PM
Stupid question....How do you know this to be true?

Proof that w age does not necessarily come wisdom.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Yamcha on January 08, 2017, 02:47:54 PM
Stupid question....How do you know this to be true?

http://bfy.tw/9M4g (http://bfy.tw/9M4g)
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
http://bfy.tw/9M4g (http://bfy.tw/9M4g)


Thanks for the link. Actually I'd already read the Nato Review article, which states: "1988 The Morris worm - one of the first recognised worms to affect the world's nascent cyber infrastructure - spread around computers largely in the US. The worm used weaknesses in the UNIX system Noun 1 and replicated itself regularly. It slowed down computers to the point of being unusable. The worm was the work of Robert Tapan Morris, who said he was just trying to gauge how big the Internet was. He subsequently became the first person to be convicted under the the US' computer fraud and abuse act. He now works as a professor at MIT."

Another article contends this: "Cyberwar - does it exist?



Cyber war does not exist. This is the bald (bold) statement summarizing the work of Dr. Thomas Rid of King's College London, who feels that cyber attacks meet none of the conditions of war."

 
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 10, 2017, 10:46:45 AM
Watching the live of senate hearing on the subject...

Now I understand what is going on. The panel looks like early 80's Soviet politburo; mainly very old men and women not capable of understanding the world we live in.
Seriously, most of these guys were born when Stalin was still around? No wonder they blindly hate Russia and fail to understand Russia these days has probably massively thinner lawbook than USA.
Jesus, they even talk like mummies.

They fail to see times have changed. Most of the world doesn't see USA representing freedom anymore. You can watch any TV channel you want. You can watch CNN in Russia and RT in USA. It's the era of internet. It's not possible anymore to rule by old man telling on TV what the people should think of the world!


I'm watching the live stream on Russian tv channel!
Anyone in Russia can watch it. Russia is not trying nor does it have need to try to cover up USA is accusing them of being evil dictatorship.
Now they are talking about 70's KGB :-\
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2017, 05:09:09 PM
Watching the live of senate hearing on the subject...

Now I understand what is going on. The panel looks like early 80's Soviet politburo; mainly very old men and women not capable of understanding the world we live in.
Seriously, most of these guys were born when Stalin was still around? No wonder they blindly hate Russia and fail to understand Russia these days has probably massively thinner lawbook than USA.
Jesus, they even talk like mummies.

They fail to see times have changed. Most of the world doesn't see USA representing freedom anymore. You can watch any TV channel you want. You can watch CNN in Russia and RT in USA. It's the era of internet. It's not possible anymore to rule by old man telling on TV what the people should think of the world!


I'm watching the live stream on Russian tv channel!
Anyone in Russia can watch it. Russia is not trying nor does it have need to try to cover up USA is accusing them of being evil dictatorship.
Now they are talking about 70's KGB :-\


Interesting observation. You would think it would behoove politicians to keep up with the times, since we old folks do nothing to expand the vote for them.

Funny how some folks appear to think politicians attain and retain their positions by magic and not by vote.
Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: mass243 on January 11, 2017, 02:00:34 AM
CNN claims Russia has very delicate/sensitive intelligence about Mr. Trump  :o


Word is McCain, the prisoner of war which vietnam kept convicted in foxhole, has provided FBI some bad stuff about Trump. When will this old bastard kick the bucket?
He's mad at russia because while he was in vietnam he ended up in hands of KGB to be interrogated. Decades ago.

Title: Re: Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2017, 04:58:51 PM
CNN claims Russia has very delicate/sensitive intelligence about Mr. Trump  :o


Word is McCain, the prisoner of war which vietnam kept convicted in foxhole, has provided FBI some bad stuff about Trump. When will this old bastard kick the bucket?
He's mad at russia because while he was in vietnam he ended up in hands of KGB to be interrogated. Decades ago.



Is your motto, ignorance is bliss?