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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40146916
Details are sketchy but there are armed police on the scene. Any takers on who is responsible?
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Details are sketchy but there are armed police on the scene. Any takers on who is responsible?
Most likely it was a teenager, texting on their phone. :)
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40146916
Details are sketchy but there are armed police on the scene. Any takers on who is responsible?
Probably the guy driving the van. Hope this heps
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50mph is about 10x the usual speed around there, so i would guess deliberate. maybe an irate tory voter trying to mow down a few urban lefties before next thursday.
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Well a witness on LBC radio just said it was 3 guys of "Asian" appearance.
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:o
Eye witnesses confirm that several bodies are “strewn on the ground” and people are receiving CPR after being stabbed with “12 inch long knives” while a bomb squad has arrived on the scene.
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Havasu?
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of peace?
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Sources have now confirmed Benny Hill has died.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just getting out of hand now
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Good thing the U.K. banned firearms for personal use ::) Such a fucking crime to leave your own citizens defenseless , But hey at least they weren't shot ::)
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probably another person from a watch list with rights over and above every person he just stabbed or drove over. Every politician in europe should be charged with treason, take the gloves off and remove the risk, what is the point of upholding our values if people are dying because of them. This will continue to happen until eventually we elect politicians who will instruct the intelligence services to deal with this problem properly by removing every threat by any means. What a disgrace not the terrorists the politicians.
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probably another person from a watch list with rights over and above every person he just stabbed or drove over. Every politician in europe should be charged with treason, take the gloves off and remove the risk, what is the point of upholding our values if people are dying because of them. This will continue to happen until eventually we elect politicians who will instruct the intelligence services to deal with this problem properly by removing every threat by any means. What a disgrace not the terrorists the politicians.
Whats left of the guy who blew the kids up in Manchester is lying in a mosque somewhere outside Manchester because the Muslim community thought it would be insensitive to the dead to have him in Manchester.
Should have flushed the c.unt down the toilet
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Sources now confirm is was just Jason Stathan filming the new Transporter movie.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Time for this filthy race of shit to be dealt with severely
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probably another person from a watch list with rights over and above every person he just stabbed or drove over. Every politician in europe should be charged with treason, take the gloves off and remove the risk, what is the point of upholding our values if people are dying because of them. This will continue to happen until eventually we elect politicians who will instruct the intelligence services to deal with this problem properly by removing every threat by any means. What a disgrace not the terrorists the politicians.
London's Mayor said this was part-and-parcel of living in a big city ::) Ironically most Londoners love the migrants , chastise " Islamophobia " and this is what they get in return for it? ::) In before Conker blames the Americans
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Religion of Pieces strikes again!
These Muzzies won't stop until the ISIS flag is flying from Buckingham Palace.
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of peace?
of pieces
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Heard Tiger Woods was in london this weekend...
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Turning children in to hamburger meat didn't seem to change minds over there. So in theory this will be forgotten in a few days.
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Time for Bullets dipped in pigs blood
& wrapping dead Musli scumbags in bacon.
We have the Kryptonite let's Make use of it.
Send em to Hell.
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This is what happens when liberalism, political correctness and dirty mussies overrun your country.
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Time for Bullets dipped in pigs blood
& wrapping dead Musli scumbags in bacon.
We have the Kryptonite let's Make use of it.
Send em to Hell.
Yeah because they're scared of pigs ::) only getbig could people be so absolutely retarded.
Ever been to NY and see who serves and makes all those pig meals?
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Reports of a second attack with stabbings.
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Conker you vermin
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The sweetest sound will be your squeals
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I like this guy. He has a lot of foresight as to what will happen.
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We need a civil war, how much longer do we need to endure this Muslim filth a fucking cancer on our country, fuck the muslims that claim to disagree with the terrorist yet are secretly celebrating every act behind closed doors they are all vermin and need to be eliminated, either by deportation or death
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Conker you vermin
what the fuks it got to do with me you dumb fenian bast@rd.
you fenian scum shites are still a good way ahead of muslims on blowing up/ killing innocent brits anyway.
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We need a civil war, how much longer do we need to endure this Muslim filth a fucking cancer on our country, fuck the muslims that claim to disagree with the terrorist yet are secretly celebrating every act behind closed doors they are all vermin and need to be eliminated, either by deportation or death
I honestly believe it will take boots on the ground at this point. Like it or not, our governments hands are tied by all of the bleeding hearts and SJWs.
But where does it begin? When does it end? Sure, we can turn the desert into glass, but at what cost? Wouldn't killing innocent women and children turn us into the same thing that we hate?
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I honestly believe it will take boots on the ground at this point. Like it or not, our governments hands are tied by all of the bleeding hearts and SJWs.
But where does it begin? When does it end? Sure, we can turn the desert into glass, but at what cost? Wouldn't killing innocent women and children turn us into the same thing that we hate?
there won't be any boots on the ground. the government know when troops start coming home in body bags this is when the public actually start waking up and opposing these ridiculous wars. as long as there's minimal military losses the useful idiots will never make the connection between these wars and the rise in terrorism at home.
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I honestly believe it will take boots on the ground at this point. Like it or not, our governments hands are tied by all of the bleeding hearts and SJWs.
But where does it begin? When does it end? Sure, we can turn the desert into glass, but at what cost? Wouldn't killing innocent women and children turn us into the same thing that we hate?
I'd just be happy with them rounded up and out our countries and back where they belong with no Muslim/paki ever allowed back in, there is no good reason for them to be here, getting them out will free up many jobs and housing. It's the only way to ensure we can live in a safe society.
Maybe the governments will consider it if everyone got together and all hell broke loose in revolt against these disgusting creatures resulting in paki deaths, injuries same way they are doing to us
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I'd just be happy with them rounded up and out our countries and back where they belong with no Muslim/paki ever allowed back in, there is no good reason for them to be here, getting them out will free up many jobs and housing. It's the only way to ensure we can live in a safe society.
Maybe the governments will consider it if everyone got together and all hell broke loose in revolt against these disgusting creatures resulting in paki deaths, injuries same way they are doing to us
Dude, are we talking about middle eastern muslims or Pakistani Indians? They are two different things altogether.
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Dude, are we talking about middle eastern muslims or Pakistani Indians? They are two different things altogether.
Indians and pakis hate each other, I thought pakis were the same religion as the rest of Middle East? Indians tend to be fine at least over here
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Conker you vermin
I agree. Spineless apologetic fuck!
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We need a civil war, how much longer do we need to endure this Muslim filth a fucking cancer on our country, fuck the muslims that claim to disagree with the terrorist yet are secretly celebrating every act behind closed doors they are all vermin and need to be eliminated, either by deportation or death
The muslim scum are the effect. The cause is treasonous whore politicians. The muslims will not go away until you get rid of the fucking traitors. They're scum / cockroaches! People like Tony Blair. What a useless sack of shit he was. The argument should be made that the muslims were invited in against the wishes of the public and should be removed the same way they came it. Fuck it!
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I agree. Spineless apologetic fuck!
spineless? i'd snap your spine you little internet fuk
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what the fuks it got to do with me you dumb fenian bast@rd.
you fenian scum shites are still a good way ahead of muslims on blowing up/ killing innocent brits anyway.
So the answer is you love muslim cock.
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i guess armed self-defense is outta the question for the british people since they just a few months ago decided to arm their police force.
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there won't be any boots on the ground. the government know when troops start coming home in body bags this is when the public actually start waking up and opposing these ridiculous wars. as long as there's minimal military losses the useful idiots will never make the connection between these wars and the rise in terrorism at home.
The two issues are not mutually exclusive. It is possible that western government policy is bad and Muslims suck.
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spineless? i'd snap your spine you little internet fuk
I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
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Conker you vermin
Conker the liberal mussie-lover.
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"Trade" infers two parties. The white Europeans arrived in Africa with a boatload of merchandise which they exchanged for slaves: yet, slavery is blamed completely on Whitey, and not on the blacks who sold their own people down the river for blankets, pots and pans.
Same drill with Muslims. It's all Whitey's fault even though, through the purchase of oil, trillions have been poured into that area yet it's still a shit hole.
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"Trade" infers two parties. The white Europeans arrived in Africa with a boatload of merchandise which they exchanged for slaves: yet, slavery is blamed completely on Whitey, and not on the blacks who sold their own people down the river for blankets, pots and pans.
Same drill with Muslims. It's all Whitey's fault even though, through the purchase of oil, trillions have been poured into that area yet it's still a shit hole.
Where have you been?
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Where have you been?
Other than as an occasional guest appearance to blow off steam, I just don't post on forums anymore. As evidenced by the declining post count in most of them I believe this medium has jumped the shark.
Tx for asking.
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Conker the liberal mussie-lover.
not a liberal and indifferent to muslims.
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Other than as an occasional guest appearance to blow off steam, I just don't post on forums anymore. As evidenced by the declining post count in most of them I believe this medium has jumped the shark.
Tx for asking.
so youre basically spending your time on instagram liking photos of guys in their underwear these days.
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London's Mayor “no reason to be alarmed.” I wonder who's a bigger apologist him or Conker?
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has anyone in the uk proposed the idea that they, citizens of the uk, should be allowed to arm themselves? or is all that's left for them to stay in the pubs and arm themselves with chairs and bottles awaiting the next attack?
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not a liberal and indifferent to muslims
Lol
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London's Mayor “no reason to be alarmed.” I wonder who's a bigger apologist him or Conker?
"Londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. There's no reason to be alarmed," Mr Khan said.
what should we do...all run around like headless chickens, all get tooled up with guns?
US roughly 15000 murders per year. UK roughly 600....think we should stick to the calm approach, thanks.
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Arm themselves with what?
has anyone in the uk proposed the idea that they, citizens of the uk, should be allowed to arm themselves? or is all that's left for them to stay in the pubs and arm themselves with chairs and bottles awaiting the next attack?
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Arm themselves with what?
if 3 people were attacking with knives in texas what do you think would happen? they would get chairs and bottles thrown at them?
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if 3 people were attacking with knives in texas what do you think would happen? they would get chairs and bottles thrown at them?
who gives a fk what they'd do in texas. you have 15000 murders a year in the US we have 600. who in their right mind would ever look to the US for example? apart from of what definitely not to do. LOL
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The day is inching closer lads...
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who gives a fk what they'd do in texas. you have 15000 murders a year in the US we have 600. who in their right mind would ever look to the US for example? apart from of what definitely not to do. LOL
in other words, you're fine with being in a bar throwing bottles and chairs as your only way to defend yourself?
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Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/ (http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/)
Wenzel Strategies (2012):
58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression (http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression)
ICM Poll:
40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html)
Pew Research (2010):
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/ (http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/)
WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism)
Pew Global (2006)
68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (http://cnsnews.com/node/53865)
World Public Opinion (2009)
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf (http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf)
NOP Research:
62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06)
People Press Surveys
31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/ (http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/)
Belgian HLN:
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml (http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml)
ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp (http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp)
Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60 (http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60)
Al-Jazeera (2006)
49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden)
Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf (http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf)
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist)
GfK NOP:
28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf (http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf)
NOP Research:
68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06)
MacDonald Laurier Institute:
62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada)
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/ (http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/)
al-Arabiya:
36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html (http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html)
Gallup:
38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really (http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really)
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thats a lot of statistics
anything special you want to discuss?
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I don't see how letting people legally carry weapons would stop this. You'd just see a massive increase in violent crime across the board.
I dunno what the answer is you can't police someone deciding to suddenly use their car or van as a murder weapon
if 3 people were attacking with knives in texas what do you think would happen? they would get chairs and bottles thrown at them?
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well i guess the only alternative left for the british is scaring attackers of by a most muscular, but then steroids are also illegal...
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in other words, you're fine with being in a bar throwing bottles and chairs as your only way to defend yourself?
in other words, i'm fine with us having 600 murders a year compared to 15,000 in the US. so regardless of current issues i wouldn't want us to adopt anything from the states that's seen as a way to "defend" ourselves from being murdered. As it really doesn't appear you have quite sussed that one yet.
hope that make sense.
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who gives a fk what they'd do in texas. you have 15000 murders a year in the US we have 600. who in their right mind would ever look to the US for example? apart from of what definitely not to do. LOL
About 14,000 of those are ghetto blacks shooting ghetto blacks over drug deals, gang turf, and disrespect, so I'd hesitate to say that is a threat to any average American.
You have a strange jealousy about America and Americans, how many U.S. college students took part in pulling that train on your wife?
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well i guess the only alternative left for the british is scaring attackers of by a most muscular, but then steroids are also illegal...
No they're not. :D
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I don't see how letting people legally carry weapons would stop this. You'd just see a massive increase in violent crime across the board.
I dunno what the answer is you can't police someone deciding to suddenly use their car or van as a murder weapon
If we all had guns we could quickly shoot the driver of any potential run away van before anything ever happens. piaow ! piaow! piaow!
it's working out great for them in the states don't you know
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About 14,000 of those are ghetto blacks shooting ghetto blacks over drug deals, gang turf, and disrespect, so I'd hesitate to say that is a threat to any average American.
You have a strange jealousy about America and Americans, how many U.S. college students took part in pulling that train on your wife?
probably a lot less than the number of black guys that used to routinely fk your mom while you hid under her bed. it's no wonder you grew up to be such a faggety, bitter sissy boy.
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religion of filth and goatfucking animals
Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/ (http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/)
Wenzel Strategies (2012):
58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression (http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression)
ICM Poll:
40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html)
Pew Research (2010):
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/ (http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/)
WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism)
Pew Global (2006)
68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (http://cnsnews.com/node/53865)
World Public Opinion (2009)
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf (http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf)
NOP Research:
62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06)
People Press Surveys
31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/ (http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/)
Belgian HLN:
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml (http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml)
ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp (http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp)
Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60 (http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60)
Al-Jazeera (2006)
49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden)
Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf (http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf)
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist (http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist)
GfK NOP:
28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf (http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf)
NOP Research:
68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06)
MacDonald Laurier Institute:
62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada)
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/ (http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/)
al-Arabiya:
36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html (http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html)
Gallup:
38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really (http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really)
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If we all had guns we could quickly shoot the driver of any potential run away van before anything ever happens. piaow ! piaow! piaow!
it's working out great for them in the states don't you know
You can brag about the low levels of gun violence in the U.K. right up to the point Sharia Law is implemented. Then you will cry and turn to the U.S. for help.
If I were Trump I'd tell the U.K. to call Angela Merkel
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About 14,000 of those are ghetto blacks shooting ghetto blacks over drug deals, gang turf, and disrespect, so I'd hesitate to say that is a threat to any average American.
True statistic. Most Europeans don't realize that most of the crime and violence in the U.S is committed by a single demographic.
That's why we can't have Muzzies, here. Ghetto blacks are already a problem beyond repair.
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probably a lot less than the number of black guys that used to routinely fk your mom while you hid under her bed. it's no wonder you grew up to be such a faggety, bitter sissy boy.
Short, stubby, fat men have such anger issues.
Practice saying it now, "Allah Ackbar". Make sure your daughters get used to the hijab at an early age.
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True statistic. Most Europeans don't realize that most of the crime and violence in the U.S is committed by a single demographic.
That's why we can't have Muzzies, here. Ghetto blacks are already a problem beyond repair.
At the real root of it, do we really care that black Chicago gang bangers shoot black Chicago gang bangers in the hood?
If obama and Rahman Emanuel don't care, why should someone who lives 2,000 miles away?
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At the real root of it, do we really care that black Chicago gang bangers shoot black Chicago gang bangers in the hood?
If obama and Rahman Emanuel don't care, why should someone who lives 2,000 miles away?
Only when it starts to bleed into civilized society.
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Only when it starts to bleed into civilized society.
I think the radical Islamists are overrunning the U.K. much faster than black gangbangers are taking over America.
But that's okay....that Ariana Grande concert will stop the muzzles in their tracks and send them scurrying home.
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Canada has a higher rate of Intentional Homicide Per Capita than the United States, but don`t let that fact deter your pointless ramblings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Furthermore, do you know who commits the majority of homicide in the US and where they take place? (I don`t have to tell anyone I think) The majority of the United States, in all its cities and land area are peaceful and violent crime free, especially compared to the shithole style of living on top of each other that most countries are forced to deal with.
BS. Canada has a population of 35mil and roughly 500-600 murders per year. still proportionally way more than the UK. but the US has population 325mil and 15,000 murders per year. less than 10 x the canada population with more than 20 x the murders.
even if canada did have higher murder rate than US (which it doesn't) why would this change the fact that it would be ridiculous for us in the UK with low murder rate to look to the US(with much higher rate) for an example of what we should do.
great logic einstein.
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I don't see how letting people legally carry weapons would stop this. You'd just see a massive increase in violent crime across the board.
I dunno what the answer is you can't police someone deciding to suddenly use their car or van as a murder weapon
Your government would fear you if you had the ability to fight back. They don't, so they flood your great nation with third world filth in the name of "diversity".
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Your government would fear you if you had the ability to fight back. They don't, so they flood your great nation with third world filth in the name of "diversity".
Government fear them?
Britain has a spineless female PM and a muzzie apologist mayor in London!
Only Canada has less of a leader.
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thats a lot of statistics
anything special you want to discuss?
The best way to exterminate cockroaches.
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It's my understanding all these fuckers were on the watch list with the police/anti terrorism. Why are they powerless to do deport these arseholes until they do something they are being watched for and clearly not being watched very well.
Why have a watch list if it means jack shit
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not a liberal and indifferent to muslims.
Indifferent. Terrific.
Indifferent to an ideology of violence and global conquest.
You're just weak and clueless.
What part of population (and through which, cultural) replacement do you not understand? How much of history are you unaware?
You truly are something else.
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It's my understanding all these fuckers were on the watch list with the police/anti terrorism. Why are they powerless to do deport these arseholes until they do something they are being watched for and clearly not being watched very well.
Why have a watch list if it means jack shit
British PM saying there are 3,000 of them on the watchlist and the U.K. does not have the resources to keep track of them all.
Which is a total crock of shit, because if that was 3,000 people who owed back taxes the government would be so far up their asses they'd have heartburn
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British PM saying there are 3,000 of them on the watchlist and the U.K. does not have the resources to keep track of them all.
Which is a total crock of shit, because if that was 3,000 people who owed back taxes the government would be so far up their asses they'd have heartburn
Very good point.
Why the fuck don't they just deport those 3000 dirty stinking paki bastards
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BS. Canada has a population of 35mil and roughly 500-600 murders per year. still proportionally way more than the UK. but the US has population 325mil and 15,000 murders per year. less than 10 x the canada population with more than 20 x the murders.
even if canada did have higher murder rate than US (which it doesn't) why would this change the fact that it would be ridiculous for us in the UK with low murder rate to look to the US(with much higher rate) for an example of what we should do.
great logic einstein.
Canada has virtually no blacks or Hispanics:
These are New York City stats:
http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf
"The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (70.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (26.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.6%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects"
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Fucking old-hag PM, Muzzie London mayor and hordes of naive, cucked young people. England is in one hell of a pickle.
BUT ... Ariana, Katy and other feminist SJWs are performing a concert of peace! Proceeds to the families of those blown to smithereens by an Allah-loving piece of human trash!
I'm sure Trudeau is busy Tweeting how Canada condemns these acts. That'll teach 'em.
Muslims are our enemies. Period. There is not one single Muzzer who belongs in our nations. Not one mosque that shouldn't be razed.
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Merkel should be held accountable, she welcomed them
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Indians and pakis hate each other, I thought pakis were the same religion as the rest of Middle East? Indians tend to be fine at least over here
Indians are mostly Catholic or hindu, some sikh. Not many muslim
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How many of these attacks will we tolerate? When does it get to the point where we decide to deal with it seriously and stop making excuses.
1 attack per month?
1 attack per week?
1 attack per day?
How many? When can we take the gloves off and protect ourselves, our children, our cities and our way of life?
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If we all had guns we could quickly shoot the driver of any potential run away van before anything ever happens. piaow ! piaow! piaow!
it's working out great for them in the states don't you know
Gerard Vowls, 47, said he saw a woman repeatedly stabbed, and threw chairs, glasses and bottles at the attackers in a bid to stop them.
How is the chairs , glasses & bottles working out for you? I could have stopped them very easy.
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The media is on this shit too, notice how in the past 2 years when this shit started getting real in the western world with the usual islamics doing this bullshit and the mass migration connection that all major news media outlets removed the ability to comment on news stories and articles.
They claim i9s was because of trolling but the real truth is they wanted to shut up those who spoke the truth no matter what their political affiliations were, it was about controlling the message.
And now here we are with a populace now force fed agandas and too afraid to speak up out of fear of losing carreers etc
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The media is on this shit too, notice how in the past 2 years when this shit started getting real in the western world with the usual islamics doing this bullshit and the mass migration connection that all major news media outlets removed the ability to comment on news stories and articles.
They claim i9s was because of trolling but the real truth is they wanted to shut up those who spoke the truth no matter what their political affiliations were, it was about controlling the message.
And now here we are with a populace now force fed agandas and too afraid to speak up out of fear of losing carreers etc
There is a major effort to suppress the truth and suppress dissenting opinions both in Europe and the USA.
I can't imagine how I would feel if I lived in a place where I wasn't allowed to carry my Glock every day.
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The media is on this shit too, notice how in the past 2 years when this shit started getting real in the western world with the usual islamics doing this bullshit and the mass migration connection that all major news media outlets removed the ability to comment on news stories and articles.
They claim i9s was because of trolling but the real truth is they wanted to shut up those who spoke the truth no matter what their political affiliations were, it was about controlling the message.
And now here we are with a populace now force fed agandas and too afraid to speak up out of fear of losing carreers etc
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There is a lot more violent crimes in the UK than the US and Canada, and its only getting worse. Less gun homicides, but overall this shows there will be violence with or without guns.
And Adonis, you might want to revisit your link about Canada having more murders than the US.
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Canada has virtually no blacks or Hispanics:
These are New York City stats:
http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf
"The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (70.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (26.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.6%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects"
why did you choose to just highlight new york?
well across the nation going on murders where the race is recorded it would appear whites kill more people in total than blacks. yep blacks are largely over represented but this BS that people trying say here that homicide is just really restricted to black ghettos is rubbish
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
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Gerard Vowls, 47, said he saw a woman repeatedly stabbed, and threw chairs, glasses and bottles at the attackers in a bid to stop them.
How is the chairs , glasses & bottles working out for you? I could have stopped them very easy.
and how many innocent bystanders might you hit ? call me crazy but i'd rather stick with our exceptionally well trained armed response units than some spaz that's watched a few clint eastwood movies shooting up the place. thanks all the same.
as i pointed 15,000 vs 600....i think we're doing OK in the grand scheme of things
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and how many innocent bystanders might you hit ? call me crazy but i'd rather stick with our exceptionally well trained armed response units than some spaz that's watched a few clint eastwood movies. thanks all the same.
as i pointed 15,000 vs 600....i think we're doing OK in the grand scheme of things
Fantastic logic ::) Where were your " exceptionally trained armed response units " when it mattered? They come after the fact. What you'll stick with is being defenseless while lunatics murder your fellow countrymen. You're a coward and proud of it. Congrats. If I saw a lunatic stabbing a woman I could walk right up to him and stop him without ever hitting anyone except the intended target , You shit yourself in the corner praying they don't harm you
As you pointed out 15K to 600 ::) More flawed logic , Your country is the size of one state ,Maine , it's not saying much in the scheme of things.
Yeah doing okay , a new attack almost every week. Yeah sounds like it
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and how many innocent bystanders might you hit ? call me crazy but i'd rather stick with our exceptionally well trained armed response units than some spaz that's watched a few clint eastwood movies shooting up the place. thanks all the same.
as i pointed 15,000 vs 600....i think we're doing OK in the grand scheme of things
It took the London police 8 minutes to respond to one of the biggest tourist attractions in the city.
But "well trained armed response units" ftw.
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There is a major effort to suppress the truth and suppress dissenting opinions both in Europe and the USA.
I can't imagine how I would feel if I lived in a place where I wasn't allowed to carry my Glock every day.
i think there's some truth to this but not in the way you think.
i think the security services are likely suppressing suicide notes/messages that are being left behind. these terrorists when they commit these crimes usually want to leave some kind of documentation behind as to why they did it etc
like the 7/7 bombers did citing the invasion of afghanistan. but i cannot remember the last time following any of these attacks in any country that any suicide note was reported. because they're all likely to say we did this because your government is killing muslims in foreign lands etc
the authorities don't want us hearing that. they would rather tell us they did it because "they hate our freedom and way of life" blah blah blah
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It took the London police 8 minutes to respond to one of the biggest tourist attractions in the city.
But "well trained armed response units" ftw.
I takes between 2 to 5 minutes to die from an arterial bleed.
Buy some quality tourniquets(CAT,SOF-T). Get trained on how to use them. Carry them.
Either that or be prepared to watch your loved ones bleed to death while you cry out for help that isn't coming.....your choice.
If your masters allow you to carry firearms, do it. Get trained on how to use them and then carry them. Always. It isn't the 1950s anymore.
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I takes between 2 to 5 minutes to die from an arterial bleed.
Buy some quality tourniquets(CAT,SOF-T). Get trained on how to use them. Carry them.
Either that or be prepared to watch your loved ones bleed to death while you cry out for help that isn't coming.....your choice.
If your masters allow you to carry firearms, do it. Get trained on how to use them and then carry them. Always. It isn't the 1950s anymore.
Fucking idiots just revel in the fact that they're dependent on someone else with a gun , Someone else to protect them and their loves ones , It boggles the mind
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Fucking idiots just revel in the fact that they're dependent on someone else with a gun , Someone else to protect them and their loves ones , It boggles the mind
They have bullshitted themselves into believing that it's ok to be careless and unprepared. A lot of people have gotten very soft.
If it's your time, it's your time but I'd rather do what I can to not be helpless. Try to kill me and I'll kill you back. Shoot holes in me or my people and I'll attempt to plug them.
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i think there's some truth to this but not in the way you think.
i think the security services are likely suppressing suicide notes/messages that are being left behind. these terrorists when they commit these crimes usually want to leave some kind of documentation behind as to why they did it etc
like the 7/7 bombers did citing the invasion of afghanistan. but i cannot remember the last time following any of these attacks in any country that any suicide note was reported. because they're all likely to say we did this because your government is killing muslims in foreign lands etc
the authorities don't want us hearing that. they would rather tell us they did it because "they hate our freedom and way of life" blah blah blah
More apologist bullshit from you ::)
We had every single right to go into Afghanistan , We asked them to turn him over they refused , FUCK him. We had no right to invade Iraq though I said as much at the time.
When they start stabbing someone you love be sure and tell them you agree with them and their anger see how well it works out for you.
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Fantastic logic ::) Where were your " exceptionally trained armed response units " when it mattered? They come after the fact. What you'll stick with is being defenseless while lunatics murder your fellow countrymen. You're a coward and proud of it. Congrats. If I saw a lunatic stabbing a woman I could walk right up to him and stop him without ever hitting anyone except the intended target , You shit yourself in the corner praying they don't harm you
As you pointed out 15K to 600 ::) More flawed logic , Your country is the size of one state ,Maine , it's not saying much in the scheme of things.
Yeah doing okay , a new attack almost every week. Yeah sounds like it
you have the problem with logic i'm afraid. 600 vs 15,000... regardless of all the terrorist acts the UK will incur the disparity between these figures will remain pretty consistent this year, next year and all the years in the foreseeable future.
what would be completely illogical would be to think it's a good idea to have a load of untrained spastics running around with guns ready to respond to any incident at the drop of a hat
take the other night for instance. if there had been say 4 or 5 civilians there with guns who started firing at these assailants in what was a very crowded area...would there have been less fatalities?
no thanks, as i said i'd rather stick to a 6 minute response time or whatever and know that anyone turning up with a gun is properly trained.
it's not brave carrying a gun u dickwad it's you that's the coward thinking you need a gun to be safe. i'd rather take my chances without one. i've been in a fair few physical altercations in my life and never felt the need to carry a weapon.
if you were actually capable of logical thinking you would understand that trying to argue your point here when looking at the figures is beyond stupidity.
ps. we have a population of 60mil just about 5.5 x less than the US. you have 25 x as many murders....you still want to talk about flawed logic ::)
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More apologist bullshit from you ::)
We had every single right to go into Afghanistan , We asked them to turn him over they refused , FUCK him. We had no right to invade Iraq though I said as much at the time.
When they start stabbing someone you love be sure and tell them you agree with them and their anger see how well it works out for you.
you may have had every right to invade afghanistan but it was a tiff between you and your former ally bin laden. nothing to do with the UK and we should have stayed out it. like we should have stayed out of every military campaign you went on to start after that.
did the Us help us invade ireland when the IRA were bombing the sht out of the UK mainland? no, as i remember a large chunk of IRA funding came from the US.
i don't agree with the terrorists at all. i'm just not stupid enough to live in denial about the reason behind them doing it. and i know where better our anger would be placed.
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Conker, you gotta see this. Armed robber gets merked because everyone in the store has a gun, lol.
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It took the London police 8 minutes to respond to one of the biggest tourist attractions in the city.
But "well trained armed response units" ftw.
it took 6 minutes for armed response the 3 suspects were dead within 8 minutes of crashing van on london bridge.
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you have the problem with logic i'm afraid. 600 vs 15,000... regardless of all the terrorist acts the UK will incur the disparity between these figures will remain pretty consistent this year, next year and all the years in the foreseeable future.
what would be completely illogical would be to think it's a good idea to have a load of untrained spastics running around with guns ready to respond to any incident at the drop of a hat
take the other night for instance. if there had been say 4 or 5 civilians there with guns who started firing at these assailants in what was a very crowded area...would there have been less fatalities?
no thanks, as i said i'd rather stick to a 6 minute response time or whatever and know that anyone turning up with a gun is properly trained.
it's not brave carrying a gun u dickwad it's you that's the coward thinking you need a gun to be safe. i'd rather take my chances without one. i've been in a fair few physical altercations in my life and never felt the need to carry a weapon.
if you were actually capable of logical thinking you would understand that trying to argue your point here when looking at the figures is beyond stupidity.
ps. we have a population of 60mil just about 5.5 x less than the US. you have 25 x as many murders....you still want to talk about flawed logic ::)
you have the problem with logic i'm afraid. 600 vs 15,000... regardless of all the terrorist acts the UK will incur the disparity between these figures will remain pretty consistent this year, next year and all the years in the foreseeable future.
Again , moron , you're the size of the state of fucking Maine , Obviously you're going to have less murders.
what would be completely illogical would be to think it's a good idea to have a load of untrained spastics running around with guns ready to respond to any incident at the drop of a hat
Who says they have to be untrained or a load of them? It's not either or , You remind me of the morons who claimed if the U.S. let people carry concealed weapons it would be the Wild West , When in fact crime rates & murder rates have plummeted since concealed carry was adopted.
take the other night for instance. if there had been say 4 or 5 civilians there with guns who started firing at these assailants in what was a very crowded area...would there have been less fatalities?
The crowds dissipated very quickly after they started stabbing people left-and-right. You're right there could be innocent people hit , it happens with police shootings sometimes , so what's the alternative? Chairs , bottles & glasses? Maybe if the threat was eliminated immediately , there wouldn't be 7 dead and almost 50 stabbed. You don't have to own a gun if you don't want to but it's immoral for Governments to tell citizens they can't protect themselves or their loved ones.
no thanks, as i said i'd rather stick to a 6 minute response time or whatever and know that anyone turning up with a gun is properly trained.
Ok , Good for you , hopefully it's not you or your wife & children next time. stick around and wait , or better yet throw chairs & bottles or let them know you hate America too that we shouldn't be bombing the middle east , see how that works out. And what is " properly trained "? Identify the threat? watch your background? get clear shots? aim for center mass? What magically training do you think these guys get? lol
it's not brave carrying a gun u dickwad it's you that's the coward thinking you need a gun to be safe. i'd rather take my chances without one. i've been in a fair few physical altercations in my life and never felt the need to carry a weapon.
I've never claimed it was brave carrying a gun , Stop projecting and stick to facts. And carrying a gun means you're prepared to defend yourself and your family and refuse to wait 6 minutes for someone else. Luck favors the prepared. You go throw hands with the guys stabbing people , Mr Hard Man ::)
Never go looking for a fight but don't run from one either. Sounds like you have something to prove with all these " physical altercations you're getting into. I avoid trouble like the plague but if I see someone repeatedly stabbing a woman , I'm putting as many rounds center mass into him until he stops. You throw chairs or hands or cower until the real men with guns show up and do what you're afraid to.
if you were actually capable of logical thinking you would understand that trying to argue your point here when looking at the figures is beyond stupidity.
Yes Mr logical thinker , " I'll wait the 6 minutes " while my family gets slaughtered ::) Fuck me you're simple.
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Conker, you gotta see this. Armed robber gets merked because everyone in the store has a gun, lol.
yeh it's great but it's just anecdotal. as i said you only need to look at the figs to see the bigger picture.
the US stands as the big warning to any developed nation that ever thought that getting rid of gun control might be a good idea
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you may have had every right to invade afghanistan but it was a tiff between you and your former ally bin laden. nothing to do with the UK and we should have stayed out it. like we should have stayed out of every military campaign you went on to start after that.
did the Us help us invade ireland when the IRA were bombing the sht out of the UK mainland? no, as i remember a large chunk of IRA funding came from the US.
i don't agree with the terrorists at all. i'm just not stupid enough to live in denial about the reason behind them doing it. and i know where better our anger would be placed.
you may have had every right to invade afghanistan but it was a tiff between you and your former ally bin laden. nothing to do with the UK and we should have stayed out it. like we should have stayed out of every military campaign you went on to start after that.
Well you do owe us for WWll ;)
i don't agree with the terrorists at all. i'm just not stupid enough to live in denial about the reason behind them doing it. and i know where better our anger would be placed.
You're an apologist and you're stupid because they were attacking us for decades before we ever invaded Iraq
Again you're in a war with these terrorists , even if we are to blame what does it matter? Innocent citizens of your country are getting killed and this is the best you can offer? Apologies , sympathies with the murderers?
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yeh it's great but it's just anecdotal. as i said you only need to look at the figs to see the bigger picture.
the US stands as the big warning to any developed nation that ever thought that getting rid of gun control might be a good idea
No we really need people like this but in real life
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yeh it's great but it's just anecdotal. as i said you only need to look at the figs to see the bigger picture.
the US stands as the big warning to any developed nation that ever thought that getting rid of gun control might be a good idea
You don't have the slightest fucking clue about the figures ::) You get your info from a biased source with an anti-gun agenda. U.S. gun debate is very nuanced you're hopelessly clueless on the subject , you read tid-bits and think you're knowledgeable about the subject , quit while you're head.
Europe is prime hunting ground for ISIS because you're all sitting ducks , they don't need guns just lorries and knives but hey as long as you're not getting shot. ::)
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Europe is prime hunting ground for ISIS because you're all sitting ducks , they don't need guns just lorries and knives but hey as long as you're not getting shot. ::)
Terrorists go after soft targets. This is an indisputable fact. They are looking for helpless victims, they are not looking to get into fair fights. They are cowards.
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Again , moron , you're the size of the state of fucking Maine , Obviously you're going to have less murders.
Who says they have to be untrained or a load of them? It's not either or , You remind me of the morons who claimed if the U.S. let people carry concealed weapons it would be the Wild West , When in fact crime rates & murder rates have plummeted since concealed carry was adopted.
The crowds dissipated very quickly after they started stabbing people left-and-right. You're right there could be innocent people hit , it happens with police shootings sometimes , so what's the alternative? Chairs , bottles & glasses? Maybe if the threat was eliminated immediately , there wouldn't be 7 dead and almost 50 stabbed. You don't have to own a gun if you don't want to but it's immoral for Governments to tell citizens they can't protect themselves or their loved ones.
Ok , Good for you , hopefully it's not you or your wife & children next time. stick around and wait , or better yet throw chairs & bottles or let them know you hate America too that we shouldn't be bombing the middle east , see how that works out. And what is " properly trained "? Identify the threat? watch your background? get clear shots? aim for center mass? What magically training do you think these guys get? lol
I've never claimed it was brave carrying a gun , Stop projecting and stick to facts. And carrying a gun means you're prepared to defend yourself and your family and refuse to wait 6 minutes for someone else. Luck favors the prepared. You go throw hands with the guys stabbing people , Mr Hard Man ::)
Never go looking for a fight but don't run from one either. Sounds like you have something to prove with all these " physical altercations you're getting into. I avoid trouble like the plague but if I see someone repeatedly stabbing a woman , I'm putting as many rounds center mass into him until he stops. You throw chairs or hands or cower until the real men with guns show up and do what you're afraid to.
Yes Mr logical thinker , " I'll wait the 6 minutes " while my family gets slaughtered ::) Fuck me you're simple.
dude i gotta give it to you your'e persistent!, but you're just not capable of thinking critically.
no the UK is not like a state in the US not unless you only have 5 states. i'll repeat this slowly for you. US population is roughly 5.5 x bigger than the UK but you have 25 x more murders...you understand what that means right?
if it makes you feel safe carrying a gun more power to you. in my country i don't feel the need to be armed to protect my family. yeh maybe we'll go out tomorrow and be met by crazed knife or gun men, but statistically it's so unlikely i'm really not going to lose any sleep about it.
personally i'd rather live in a country that has our murder rate and me not be able to own a gun than live a country with your murder rate where there's more guns than people.
another thing worth considering if guns were as available in the UK as they are in the US it's pretty certain the 3 terrorists from the other night would have had guns instead of knives. So straight away you're looking at way more deaths. look at the dude in the US that killed 50 or so in a nightclub....and that was one dude. These guys in lonndon were running in and out of crowded bars. Imagine what the death toll could have been if it was 3 shooters...
and then you want to factor in x amount of have a go heroes trying to exchange gun fire with them as well.. :o
piaow! piaow! piaow! piaow!
i prefer our very cowardly unsafe society thanks :D
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Terrorists go after soft targets. This is an indisputable fact. They are looking for helpless victims, they are not looking to get into fair fights. They are cowards.
This is why you won't see them walking around pulling their shit in South Central Los Angeles or in Main Street regular town not typical urban USA because the farmers would string up them and their families to feed them to the hogs before having them squeal like pigs first
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Well you do owe us for WWll ;)
You're an apologist and you're stupid because they were attacking us for decades before we ever invaded Iraq
not "us" YOU!
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dude i gotta give it to you your'e persistent!, but you're just not capable of thinking critically.
no the UK is not like a state in the US not unless you only have 5 states. i'll repeat this slowly for you. US population is roughly 5.5 x bigger than the UK but you have 25 x more murders...you understand what that means right?
if it makes you feel safe carrying a gun more power to you. in my country i don't feel the need to be armed to protect my family. yeh maybe we'll go out tomorrow and be met by crazed knife or gun men, but statistically it's so unlikely i'm really not going to lose any sleep about it.
personally i'd rather live in a country that has our murder rate and me not be able to own a gun than live a country with your murder rate where there's more guns than people.
another thing worth considering if guns were as available in the UK as they are in the US it's pretty certain the 3 terrorists from the other night would have had guns instead of knives. So straight away you're looking at way more deaths. look at the dude in the US that killed 50 or so in a nightclub....and that was one dude. These guys in lonndon were running in and out of crowded bars. Imagine what the death toll could have been if it was 3 shooters...
and then you want to factor in x amount of have a go heroes trying to exchange gun fire with them as well.. :o
i prefer our very cowardly unsafe society thanks :D
dude i gotta give it to you your'e persistent!, but you're just not capable of thinking critically.
no the UK is not like a state in the US not unless you only have 5 states. i'll repeat this slowly for you. US population is roughly 5.5 x bigger than the UK but you have 25 x more murders...you understand what that means right?
I said it's the size of one of our states ( Maine ) yes we have more murders no one is disputing that , when you break them down things get interesting, You're concentrating solely on the numbers
if it makes you feel safe carrying a gun more power to you. in my country i don't feel the need to be armed to protect my family. yeh maybe we'll go out tomorrow and be met by crazed knife or gun men, but statistically it's so unlikely i'm really not going to lose any sleep about it.
I agree , you want to take chances knock yourself out but it's the Governments that won't let people decide who are immoral.
another thing worth considering if guns were as available in the UK as they are in the US it's pretty certain the 3 terrorists from the other night would have had guns instead of knives. So straight away you're looking at way more deaths. look at the dude in the US that killed 50 or so in a nightclub....and that was one dude. These guys in lonndon were running in and out of crowded bars. Imagine what the death toll could have been if it was 3 shooters..
I agree with you to a degree , However France has very tight gun laws and somehow these assholes got AKs into the country , and they don't need them just a lorry
and then you want to factor in x amount of have a go heroes trying to exchange gun fire with them as well.. :o
i prefer our very cowardly unsafe society thanks :D
Okay , the problem lies with others who might not prefer to rely on armed people to depend on. Guns are like abortions , don't want one , don't get one , but don't tell people they can't get one.
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dude i gotta give it to you your'e persistent!, but you're just not capable of thinking critically.
no the UK is not like a state in the US not unless you only have 5 states. i'll repeat this slowly for you. US population is roughly 5.5 x bigger than the UK but you have 25 x more murders...you understand what that means right?
if it makes you feel safe carrying a gun more power to you. in my country i don't feel the need to be armed to protect my family. yeh maybe we'll go out tomorrow and be met by crazed knife or gun men, but statistically it's so unlikely i'm really not going to lose any sleep about it.
personally i'd rather live in a country that has our murder rate and me not be able to own a gun than live a country with your murder rate where there's more guns than people.
another thing worth considering if guns were as available in the UK as they are in the US it's pretty certain the 3 terrorists from the other night would have had guns instead of knives. So straight away you're looking at way more deaths. look at the dude in the US that killed 50 or so in a nightclub....and that was one dude. These guys in lonndon were running in and out of crowded bars. Imagine what the death toll could have been if it was 3 shooters...
and then you want to factor in x amount of have a go heroes trying to exchange gun fire with them as well.. :o
piaow! piaow! piaow! piaow!
i prefer our very cowardly unsafe society thanks :D
Since your government is open to taking in refugees, we will send you 1,000,000 black gang bangers a year for the next ten years and help you with your muzzie and gun problem
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Conker's inability to understand the history of Islam and its aggression/predilection for desire for global conquest is remarkable. The man simply doesn't have the intellect and/or balls to see the bigger picture.
Sadly, I fear he is representative of the overwhelming majority. A simpleton with an infected mind that will reject the reality that stares him in the face.
Conker is feeble of mind and incapable of realizing the lethality of an ideology that, as with a cancer, has infected the host and is destroying it from the inside out.
It's a numbers game. These terrorism acts are distractions from the larger picture of a conquest-in-the-making.
He's a sheep already prepped for slaughter.
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Conker's inability to understand the history of Islam and its aggression/predilection for desire for global conquest is remarkable. The man simply doesn't have the intellect and/or balls to see the bigger picture.
Sadly, I fear he is representative of the overwhelming majority. A simpleton with an infected mind that will reject the reality that stares him in the face.
Conker is feeble of mind and incapable of realizing the lethality of an ideology that, as with a cancer, has infected the host and is destroying it from the inside out.
It's a numbers game. These terrorism acts are distractions from the larger picture of a conquest-in-the-making.
He's a sheep already prepped for slaughter.
I hope Conker faces reality soon.
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Getbig experts in History and Political Science battling it out! There is nothing greater!
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Getbig experts in History and Political Science battling it out! There is nothing greater!
You don't have to be a professor to see what's happening in the world right now. If you have even half a brain and a shred of honesty it should be quite clear.
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You don't have to be a professor to see what's happening in the world right now. If you have even half a brain and a shred of honesty it should be quite clear.
Nonsense!! Getbig political and historical experts are at the forefront of the intellectual world! They debate with each other, as they sit back in their $400 million yacht! Is there a better sight than this? NO!
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The libs say getting rid of guns will help ::)
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The libs say getting rid of guns will help ::)
yep and what is so funny about those anti-gun politicians, celebs and other rich super rich and protected by security otypes is all their bodyguards and security are armed to the teeth themselves
easy for some washington/ottawa/uk slob politician and uber celeb to bitch about love, tolerance and anti weapons for the public when anyone who gets within 5 feet of these fuckers could realistically get shot or kicked into a coma for doing so
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Not again. Conker always takes a beating from ND when it comes to gun issues.
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yep and what is so funny about those anti-gun politicians, celebs and other rich super rich and protected by security otypes is all their bodyguards and security are armed to the teeth themselves
easy for some washington/ottawa/uk slob politician and uber celeb to bitch about love, tolerance and anti weapons for the public when anyone who gets within 5 feet of these fuckers could realistically get shot or kicked into a coma for doing so
Exactly.
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Trump was right about CNN....
http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/06/04/did-cnn-stage-this-muslim-protest-against-terror-in-london-watch/
Gets even worse here in Holland, public broadcasting TV censored words of British PM: "islamic" was removed and "this is for allah" (shouted by terrorists) was also censored
They don't want the Dutch public to know such things
Official stance by Dutch politicians is that all terrorist attacks are incidents and have nothing to do with fascist religion. Go figure....
Trump is blunt, but I think he is right on many things. At least he does something, our politicians only talk and never act
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I was in London Bridge only 2 hours before the attack occurred. These attacks really seem to be escalating now. I can see it getting worse over the years.
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Hahaha he even took his pint.
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why did you choose to just highlight new york?
well across the nation going on murders where the race is recorded it would appear whites kill more people in total than blacks. yep blacks are largely over represented but this BS that people trying say here that homicide is just really restricted to black ghettos is rubbish
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers
It's the same in every city. Moreover, the formal statistics largely under represent the crimes committed by blacks as witnesses in Ghettos very rarely come out and finger suspects because "Snitches get stitches." It's not even debatable that ghettos are the epicenter of violence in the United States. Your link is yet another effort by the mainstream media to try to get us to not see what's in front of our own eyes. It's the same thing with radical Islam. We are all supposed to buy into the idea that an elderly white woman is just as likely to commit a terrorist act as a young Muslim male.
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i think there's some truth to this but not in the way you think.
i think the security services are likely suppressing suicide notes/messages that are being left behind. these terrorists when they commit these crimes usually want to leave some kind of documentation behind as to why they did it etc
like the 7/7 bombers did citing the invasion of afghanistan. but i cannot remember the last time following any of these attacks in any country that any suicide note was reported. because they're all likely to say we did this because your government is killing muslims in foreign lands etc
the authorities don't want us hearing that. they would rather tell us they did it because "they hate our freedom and way of life" blah blah blah
you are a real low life
seriously
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Not again. Conker always takes a beating from ND when it comes to gun issues.
you people really are a different kind of stupid.
we're not debating something that's hypothetical here. the figures are there in black and white.
the US has very little gun control and has proportionally around 5 x more murders than the UK with strict gun controls. the vast majority of murders in the US are committed with guns. and it's the same story all across europe and rest of developed world.
guns are great for protection if only the good guys have them. but in a society where guns are so easily available invariably all the bad guys have them too. so you end up back at the same level playing field you were at with no guns, just with any confrontation having much higher stakes.
as is said take the other night for instance, had that been in the states it's pretty much a certainty those 3 guys would have had guns. chances are the death toll would have been 10 x or more higher.
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you are a real low life
seriously
go and get some toilets cleaned you little sh1t rat
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go and get some toilets cleaned you little sh1t rat
why dont you fuck off to the middle east you short fat cu nt
you are complete and utter scum
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why dont you fuck off to the middle east you short fat cu nt
you are complete and utter scum
you calling me "fat" ::)
go suck your mother's underneath you little sh1t hound
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I still do not get how the majority of British police only carry around a baton. The only time guys with guns show up, are after people have been killed.
Then they all stand around, with full body armor, and automatic weapons "as a show of force". Wouldn't that be more useful BEFOREHAND? I think we can all safely say that it has come to the point that the police over in the UK should be given a fighting chance.
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you calling me "fat" ::)
go suck your mother's underneath you little sh1t hound
you are a morbidly obese juiced up midget with a huge chip on your shoulder
its not anyone's fault but yours that you are a total failure
if you dont like our government go and live in a third world shit hole and see how that works out stumpy
thats not going to happen though is it
because as much as you complain about the police and the state
you were straight on the phone like a chicken when Gee was on his way down
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you are a morbidly obese juiced up midget with a huge chip on your shoulder
its not anyone's fault but yours that you are a total failure
if you dont like our government go and live in a third world shit hole and see how that works out stumpy
thats not going to happen though is it
because as much as you complain about the police and the state
you were straight on the phone like a chicken when Gee was on his way down
ok fatboy i challenge you to post a pic from any time in your life where you're leaner than I am in my avi.
why should i fk off to a 3rd world country? i actually have assets and own sht in this country. why don't you fk off to a 3rd world country you basically live like a 3rd worlder cleaning toilets anyway.
anyway i'm done talking to you. you are literally the worst poster on here. you have absolutely nothing of any value to offer any discussion .
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ok fatboy i challenge you to post a pic from any time in your life where you're leaner than I am in my avi.
why should i fk off to a 3rd world country? i actually have assets and own sht in this country. why don't you fk off to a 3rd world country you basically live like a 3rd worlder cleaning toilets anyway.
anyway i'm done talking to you. you are literally the worst poster on here. you have absolutely nothing of any value to offer any discussion .
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i think there's some truth to this but not in the way you think.
i think the security services are likely suppressing suicide notes/messages that are being left behind. these terrorists when they commit these crimes usually want to leave some kind of documentation behind as to why they did it etc
like the 7/7 bombers did citing the invasion of afghanistan. but i cannot remember the last time following any of these attacks in any country that any suicide note was reported. because they're all likely to say we did this because your government is killing muslims in foreign lands etc
the authorities don't want us hearing that. they would rather tell us they did it because "they hate our freedom and way of life" blah blah blah
Dear Conker,
There is extensive literature on this and their grievances are pretty well understood. Many academics have devoted years to interviewing individuals involved in various Islamist and Jihadist groups and have documented their research. Scott Atran, Jason Burke, and Thomas Hegghammer have all written important works that you should read. I'd also recommend reading Dr William Polk, the former Harvard Professor and veteran foreign policy expert who has provided invaluable insight into the Middle East/Central Asia and U.S foreign policy (he's highly critical of it but that's only one part of the picture). We also have the former Islamist Maajid Nawaz doing fantastic work to elucidate the ideological factors involved in motivating individuals to commit the atrocities we are witnessing. I don't disagree with you on the failings of recent interventions and the need to examine our own role in creating the conditions for the spread of terrorism, but pointing the finger solely at the West and our security services is erroneous and in bad taste.
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ok fatboy i challenge you to post a pic from any time in your life where you're leaner than I am in my avi.
why should i fk off to a 3rd world country? i actually have assets and own sht in this country. why don't you fk off to a 3rd world country you basically live like a 3rd worlder cleaning toilets anyway.
anyway i'm done talking to you. you are literally the worst poster on here. you have absolutely nothing of any value to offer any discussion .
is the bald midget in your avi you ;D
no wonder you are angry
and owning a transit van is hardly assets
go out and get a real job stumpy
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Dear Conker,
There is extensive literature on this and their grievances are pretty well understood. Many academics have devoted years to interviewing individuals involved in various Islamist and Jihadist groups and have documented their research. Scott Atran, Jason Burke, and Thomas Hegghammer have all written important works that you should read. I'd also recommend reading Dr William Polk, the former Harvard Professor and veteran foreign policy expert who has provided invaluable insight into the Middle East/Central Asia and U.S foreign policy (he's highly critical of it but that's only one part of the picture). We also have the former Islamist Maajid Nawaz doing fantastic work to elucidate the ideological factors involved in motivating individuals to commit the atrocities we are witnessing. I don't disagree with you on the failings of recent interventions and the need to examine our own role in creating the conditions for the spread of terrorism, but pointing the finger solely at the West and our security services is erroneous and in bad taste.
It's all part of a leftist narrative that the West "Whitey" is the source of all evil in the world. However when you look at some of the world's poorest countries, the west has very little involvement:
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Hahaha he even took his pint.
Dude is like: "Stay calm and pint on!" :D
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Dude is like: "Stay calm and pint on!" :D
I can respect this. Back in my drinking days, I used to pride myself on my ability to hold onto a bottle or glass regardless of how hard somebody bumped into me.
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It's all part of a leftist narrative that the West "Whitey" is the source of all evil in the world. However when you look at some of the world's poorest countries, the west has very little involvement:
(http://www.diamondfacts.org/make_diff_gdp_lg.jpg)
Well, there certainly is that narrative being parroted by many online who haven't actually researched anything, but with regard to the West's involvement in various developing countries - they have a history of significant involvement through the selling of arms to regimes they support; conditional lending by the Bretton Woods Institutions who implemented Structural Adjustment Programmes in order to liberalise and privatise trade (which led to crippling debts and an increase in poverty); and the emergence of powerful transnational corporations sourcing materials from various local companies based in developing countries for the purpose of keeping costs down by supporting low workers wages, taking advantage of the increased competition there, avoiding import tariffs, ensuring local markets remain accessible and side-stepping rules and regulations that guarantee basic workers rights.
Of course, those are just the facts but there are many debates within the field of International Development about the extent to which the people in these countries might actually benefit from this in various ways. As for GDP per capita: bear in mind that it shows low-income, middle-income, and high-income countries and is useful to identify the nature of consumption within them, but it doesn't really reveal much beyond that.
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Dear Conker,
There is extensive literature on this and their grievances are pretty well understood. Many academics have devoted years to interviewing individuals involved in various Islamist and Jihadist groups and have documented their research. Scott Atran, Jason Burke, and Thomas Hegghammer have all written important works that you should read. I'd also recommend reading Dr William Polk, the former Harvard Professor and veteran foreign policy expert who has provided invaluable insight into the Middle East/Central Asia and U.S foreign policy (he's highly critical of it but that's only one part of the picture). We also have the former Islamist Maajid Nawaz doing fantastic work to elucidate the ideological factors involved in motivating individuals to commit the atrocities we are witnessing. I don't disagree with you on the failings of recent interventions and the need to examine our own role in creating the conditions for the spread of terrorism, but pointing the finger solely at the West and our security services is erroneous and in bad taste.
i'm not really pointing the finger at our security services at all. for the most part in the UK they are doing an excellent job. The former head of MI5 actually predicted at the time that invading iraq would substantially increase the terrorist threat in the UK, you're creating "straw man" positions for me. i also never said the west is "solely" responsible, but i believe our "interventions" have been the biggest driver of the terrorism we are experiencing now.
ISIS grew out of the invasion of iraq (to quote Obama). and we invaded iraq on a false premise. ISIS or ISIS inspired attacks are by far the biggest threat we now face from terrorism. So even if we go on that alone(and we caused more problems than that), if our actions led to the rise and current influence of ISIS. not really sure how anyone could deny "we" (those responsible for ordering these wars in our name) are not chiefly responsible for what is going now.
one question. do you believe our invasion of iraq is primarily responsible for iraq being in civil war now?
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i'm not really pointing the finger at our security services at all. for the most part in the UK they are doing an excellent job. The former head of MI5 actually predicted at the time that invading iraq would substantially increase the terrorist threat in the UK, you're creating "straw man" positions for me. i also never said the west is "solely" responsible, but i believe our "interventions" have been the biggest driver of the terrorism we are experiencing now.
ISIS grew out of the invasion of iraq (to quote Obama). and we invaded iraq on a false premise. ISIS or ISIS inspired attacks are by far the biggest threat we now face from terrorism. So even if we go on that alone(and we caused more problems than that), if our actions led to the rise and current influence of ISIS. not really sure how anyone could deny "we" (those responsible for ordering these wars in our name) are not chiefly responsible for what is going now.
No, I understand, and it's not my intention to attack straw men - I agree with a lot of what you are saying with regard to foreign policy; I was referring to your comment that the security services were suppressing information. The information and facts are there to be read. Various heads of special forces and intelligence services have vehemently condemned the short-sighted actions of our interventions, too. I don't think you're an Islamist apologist - you've stated quite clearly that you condemn terrorism - I'm just merely suggesting that there's a lot of works out there that you may like to read as it will enhance your understanding. I think you're being attacked here largely because people are talking past one-another, and it does read as though you are skipping over the ideological factors involved which are not related to the West. Obviously it's going to be hard to have reasonable dialogue right now when emotions here are so high. I've been really angered the past week with what's happened in Manchester and London, so I'm sure others are feeling the same and that's likely why these threads are so highly charged. It's also worth noting that in the Manchester bombing thread, you weren't the one who said that 'you literally didn't care'. Two others did and those comments seemed to have been entirely glossed over.
With regard to your Iraq question: Yes, I do. I fought in a few of these conflicts when I was younger, but I always argued that Iraq would be a disaster and I took part in the marches against it before it happened. The author that I mentioned, William Polk, wrote a brilliant book on the failings of that intervention titled Understanding Iraq. The Chilcot report also vindicated the views of all of those who opposed the war on the grounds that it would lead to severe consequences unless a feasible political solution was implemented.
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No, I understand, and it's not my intention to attack straw men - I agree with a lot of what you are saying with regard to foreign policy; I was referring to your comment that the security services were suppressing information. The information and facts are there to be read. Various heads of special forces and intelligence services have vehemently condemned the short-sighted actions of our interventions, too. I don't think you're an Islamist apologist - you've stated quite clearly that you condemn terrorism - I'm just merely suggesting that there's a lot of works out there that you may like to read as it will enhance your understanding. I think you're being attacked here largely because people are talking past one-another, and it does read as though you are skipping over the ideological factors involved which are not related to the West. Obviously it's going to be hard to have reasonable dialogue right now when emotions here are so high. I've been really angered and depressed the past week with what's happened in Manchester and London, so I'm sure others are feeling the same and that's likely why these threads are so highly charged. It's also worth noting that in the Manchester bombing thread, you weren't the one who said that 'you literally didn't care'. Two others did and those comments seemed to have been entirely glossed over.
With regard to your Iraq question: Yes, I do. I fought in a few of these conflicts when I was younger, but I always argued that Iraq would be a disaster and I took part in the marches against it before it happened. The author that I mentioned, William Polk, wrote a brilliant book on the failings of that intervention titled Understanding Iraq. The Chilcot report also vindicated the views of all of those who opposed the war on the grounds that it would lead to severe consequences unless a realistic and feasible political solution was implemented.
giving his intellect a pat on the back
doesn't change the fact that he is basically saying that its our fault they are killing children at a pop concert
guys like conker always try and take the i am so intelligent and you are so stupid line
when basically his argument could be pulled apart by anyone that can count to ten
you cant argue with people that have permanent chips on their shoulder
he is pretending he isn't anti police now when his post history is littered with attacks on them
guy is a prime example of whats wrong with our country
a juiced up angry racist midget that blames everything apart from himself about his life being shit
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giving his intellect a pat on the back
doesn't change the fact that he is basically saying that its our fault they are killing children at a pop concert
guys like conker always try and take the i am so intelligent and you are so stupid line
when basically his argument could be pulled apart by anyone that can count to ten
you cant argue with people that have permanent chips on their shoulder
he is pretending he isn't anti police now when his post history is littered with attacks on them
guy is a prime example of whats wrong with our country
a juiced up angry racist midget that blames everything apart from himself about his life being shit
;D I love the Getbig arguments as much as the next man so I'll remain an impartial observer here - but I personally think our police have done a fantastic job responding to these incidents, and there is nothing that can justify deliberately targeting little kids.
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This is the nail right on the head
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This is beyond sickening...
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How many of these attacks will we tolerate? When does it get to the point where we decide to deal with it seriously and stop making excuses.
1 attack per month?
1 attack per week?
1 attack per day?
How many? When can we take the gloves off and protect ourselves, our children, our cities and our way of life?
the us govt didnt seem to care when sandy hook happened.
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yep and what is so funny about those anti-gun politicians, celebs and other rich super rich and protected by security otypes is all their bodyguards and security are armed to the teeth themselves
easy for some washington/ottawa/uk slob politician and uber celeb to bitch about love, tolerance and anti weapons for the public when anyone who gets within 5 feet of these fuckers could realistically get shot or kicked into a coma for doing so
how many terrorist attacks(hell let's throwin mass shootings) have been stopped by armed civilians?
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The libs say getting rid of guns will help ::)
no one wants to ban guns, i'm as liberal as they come.. i live in nyc; pro lgbt marriage, pro trans rights, pro abortion,atheist, believe in universal healthcare\free state university. and i nor anyone i know want to get rid of guns, "extreme vetting" and banning arent the same things.
that being said, fuck these muzzies, if they want to come to america, let them prove it by eating a bacon sarnie first
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"extreme vetting" and banning arent the same things
Lol!!! Tell that to the 9th circuit court of appeals
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The number one boys name in the UK is Mohammed. Even if they had an immigration ban, it wouldn't matter at this point. The seed has already been planted within the walls of the nation itself.
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Kokomo is still open, right? Copper Canyon?
If this curtails blacked-out beer bongin' and topless cliff dives, the terrorists win.
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The number one boys name in the UK is Mohammed. Even if they had an immigration ban, it wouldn't matter at this point. The seed has already been planted within the walls of the nation itself.
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Popular boy's names for 2017
NOAH - Could it be Ryan Gosling’s appearance in the smash-hit 'La La Land' that has tipped Noah to the top of the charts yet again? Meaning ‘rest’ and ‘comfort’, this is also a popular biblical name, after Noah builds an ark in the Old Testament, saving animals from a flood.
HARRY - We’ve got Princess Diana to thank for putting Harry back on the map, but in recent years, thanks to Harry Potter and Harry Styles, the name has continued to grow in popularity. Meaning ‘estate ruler’, you can rest assured your little Harry will have a favourite bedtime story and fancy dress costume for years to come!
OLIVER - Meaning ‘olive tree’, Oliver is thought to be energetic and good natured. A popular choice for years, this has seen another spike this year.
JACK - A name that has been famous ever since Jack and Jill walked up the hill, for a long time, Jack was a diminutive of the name John. Meaning ‘God is gracious’.
CHARLIE - Also a popular girls name, Charlie is a shortened version of Charles, meaning ‘free man’. A friendly, tomboyish name, the name has been jumping up in popularity since 2005.
JAMES - A traditional, biblical, royal name, James is making a comeback this year. Meaning ‘one who follows’, famous James’ include James Corden, James McAvoy and James Bond.
OSCAR - Whether you hope you little Oscar becomes a great writer (Oscar Wilde) or a great designer (Oscar de la Renta), we’re sure he’ll live up to his name. Meaning ‘champion warrior’, according to Irish legend, Oscar was one of the mightiest warriors who ever lived.
GEORGE - Not only is Prince George a three-year-old fashion icon, he’s made his own name more popular than it ever has been. Meaning ‘farmer’, George is a solid, strong and royal choice.
LEO - Maybe it was Leonardo (‘Leo) Dicaprio finally winning that Oscar last year that put Leo back on the map, but it looks set to stay this year. Meaning ‘lion’, it’s said to represent power and courage. The name also has many biblical connotations.
SULIEN - A rising name this year, Sulien means ‘sun born’ and is originally thought to be the name of the most learned man in Wales.
ARLO - Unconventionally chosen by Leighton Meester and Adam Brody for their baby girl, this traditionally male name means ‘fortified hill’, or in other words, strengthened or protected.
REGGIE - A diminutive of Reginald, this nickname is starting to become a popular name its own right. Meaning ‘counsel power’.
ALBIE - A super-cute name, made popular by Harry Potter, Albie is a shortened version of Albert, Alban or Albus, meaning ‘noble’ and ‘bright’.
FINN - An old English name, originally meaning ‘blond’ this is the perfect name for your fair haired baby! In Irish mythology, Finn is a warrior with supernatural powers, remembered for his wisdom and generosity.
ELIJAH - An old biblical name, meaning ‘Yahweh is God’, Elijah has been put back on the map in recent years by Lord of the Rings actor Elijah Wood.
LUCAS - A nice alternative to the ever popular Luke, Lucas is a classic biblical name, meaning ‘light-giving’.
BENJAMIN - The name chosen by Gisele Bundchen and Tom Brady, Benjamin is a traditional biblical name meaning ‘son of the right hand’. It is also often shortened to Ben.
GABRIEL - Another biblical favourite, Gabriel has been popular for the past few years, meaning ‘God is my strength’. It’s rise in popularity could be down to celebrity fans including Mick Jagger, Daniel Day-Lewis and Mia Farrow.
MATTHEW - A name that has been popular for as long as we’ve been making baby-name lists, Matthew means ‘gift from God’. In recent years, parents have started choosing alternative versions, such as Matthias and Mateo.
LIAM - Originally a shortened version of William, for a long time we’ve thought of Liam as a name in its own right. Meaning ‘resolute protection’, famous Liam’s include Liam Neeson and for Oasis fans, Liam Gallagher.
AIDEN - We love that Aiden means ‘little and fiery’. Set to rise again this year, hopefully his spirited nature won’t come out till he’s a little older!
ETHAN - Meaning ‘strong’, ‘safe’ and ‘firm’, Ethan is often thought to be someone you can rely on. This is a popular choice for all those Tom Cruise fans out there!
JACOB - Thanks to the Twilight films, this traditional name has made a comeback in the past few years. Meaning ‘supplanter’, it’s popular for its connotations of honesty and warmth. Often shortened to Jake.
ALEXANDER - Thanks to Alexander the Great, this is now thought of as a noble and mighty name, meaning ‘defending men’.
WYATT - Set to rise in popularity this year, Wyatt, meaning ‘brave in war’, has been given a celebrity boost after being unconventionally chosen by Mila Kunis and Ashton Kuther as a name for their baby girl.
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Lets just hope the British voting public vote for nationalist parties that can then impose or shape the type of laws and practices required to rid us of this human filth, what they all forget is there has never been a more blood thirsty cruel race than the infidels they attack, if the gloves came off, they would all be in paradise by the end of the week. Their existence is purely based on our tolerance.
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Lets just hope the British voting public vote for nationalist parties that can then impose or shape the type of laws and practices required to rid us of this human filth, what they all forget is there has never been a more blood thirsty cruel race than the infidels they attack, if the gloves came off, they would all be in paradise by the end of the week. Their existence is purely based on our tolerance.
This. When the time comes, their union with Allah the Atrocious won't come fast enough.
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Popular boy's names for 2017
You have to take into account all of the spellings of the name and it comes out on top.
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the us govt didnt seem to care when sandy hook happened.
Not this shit again.
Even if the Unites States citizens all agreed to forfeit their constitutional right, how the fuck is the government going to collect all those guns and then convince the degenerate scumbag criminals to turn theirs over too.
Could not and would not ever happen. Impossible. At best all you could do is confiscate guns from law abiding citizens....and you couldn't even get all of those. Criminals and nuts would be the only ones armed.
Gun control is not a solution to to sandy hook. Also, not an apples to apples comparison with Islamic terrorists which I'm sure you know. Twat.
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Not this shit again.
Even if the Unites States citizens all agreed to forfeit their constitutional right, how the fuck is the government going to collect all those guns and then convince the degenerate scumbag criminals to turn theirs over too.
Could not and would not ever happen. Impossible. At best all you could do is confiscate guns from law abiding citizens....and you couldn't even get all of those. Criminals and nuts would be the only ones armed.
Gun control is not a solution to to sandy hook. Also, not an apples to apples comparison with Islamic terrorists which I'm sure you know. Twat.
Because gun control is working so well in Chicago.
Where Odumbo and Emanuel want to make sure the white upper class remain easy targets for odumbo's ghetto sons.
Fuck that. There is zero chance I will ever let a liberal tell me how to live my life
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This is beyond sickening...
The government is not doing its job of keeping its citizens safe.
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Because gun control is working so well in Chicago.
Where Odumbo and Emanuel want to make sure the white upper class remain easy targets for odumbo's ghetto sons.
Fuck that. There is zero chance I will ever let a liberal tell me how to live my life
Exactly. How many murders every day in Chicago? You all remember Chicago right? The cesspool of liberalism and corruption where Barrack Obama came from.
Come and take them phaggots....if you've got the grapes. Better bring you whole crew.
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Londoners are much more tolerant than the rest .. they did not vote an muslim as a mayor ?
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Exactly. How many murders every day in Chicago? You all remember Chicago right? The cesspool of liberalism and corruption where Barrack Obama came from.
Come and take them phaggots....if you've got the grapes. Better bring you whole crew.
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why even cite chicago, most of the gun violence in chicago is black on black crime isolated in a few ghettos.. eventually they'll just kill themselves out. bring back Reagan policies and start shipping guns en masse to every hood
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Je suis Liam
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Merkel should be held accountable, she welcomed them
Not just Merkel. All bought and paid for pro immigration whoreliticians in the West are responsible. They had their orders from their handlers which they followed: Population Replacement. That was the goal and they followed it. They did not care about native European lives. White women could be raped, children murdered. No problem. In fact, that would be preferable because it helps along the population replacement.
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm (http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm)
Tony Blair and the Labor Party sent out search parties many years ago to look for immigrants. One of the motives - to rub the rights nose in Dieversity.
These so called politicians are traitors. And their handlers are war criminals.
They all deserve public execution. The Rothshilds entire bloodline should be wiped out. A Jihad will be declared on them. Their time is coming and I welcome it!
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Londoners are much more tolerant than the rest .. they did not vote an muslim as a mayor ?
Well, white people are a minority in London. So are you surprised that the Minority Majority non whites voted for a Muslim?? LOL!!!
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Lets just hope the British voting public vote for nationalist parties that can then impose or shape the type of laws and practices required to rid us of this human filth, what they all forget is there has never been a more blood thirsty cruel race than the infidels they attack, if the gloves came off, they would all be in paradise by the end of the week. Their existence is purely based on our tolerance.
It has progressed past voting. It is at the point where heads need to roll and impalements allocated for the guilty cockroaches. These pro immigration politicians in the West have got to go and by go I don't mean shown the door. Public executions are in order!!
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spineless? i'd snap your spine you little internet fuk
Lol, whatever Cucker!
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Kill `em all sort `em out later!! :(
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Again, it's time to send in Bauer
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why even cite chicago
Because it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that having tough gun laws does fuck-all to stop violent criminals from shooting people dead by the thousands. The fact that most of them are black doesn't make me feel better about it.
Then you have the UK where there are very few guns so mooslims are weaponizing vans and mowing people down left and right.
"Gun control" is a total farce and it does not work. There is a mountain of evidence that shows that. Still Democunts beat the drum for it....because they are stupid and dishonest.