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...and even being sued by the Girl Scouts for adding girls to the ranks. No idea what they stand for and totally lost their identity. The anti-male movement is winning this one up, down and sideways.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/boy-scouts-of-america-considers-bankruptcy-filing-amid-sex-abuse-lawsuits-11544649657
Side note, they own a lot of rural resort-style real estate that I'd like to bid on for pennies on the dollar.
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Another organization totally ruined by the left.
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Technology put an end to boyscouts. Kids would rather sit home on their tablets than hike in the woods and learn how to pitch a tent.
A real man knows how to sign on to an ipad, not pitch a tent, go fishing, or make a spear.
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Another organization totally ruined by the left.
Yes, but there were homo pedos lurking there for the last 100 years.
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Yes, but there were homo pedos lurking there for the last 100 years.
Yes but they had to lurk. Now they are openly accepted. Young males are growing up with no dads at home and no male role models who aren't queer or totally beta fucks. The future does not look good for the good old U.S of A.
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Another organization totally ruined by the left.
I believe you've got this wrong. It has nothing to do with liberals (left) or conservatives (right). It has everything to do with child sex abuse (pedophilia) and like the with Catholic church, a failure to act on it.
In 2010, a jury ordered that the Scouts pay $18.5 million to a Scout who was abused in the 1980s—it was the largest punitive damages award to a single plaintiff in a child abuse case in the US. "The Boy Scouts are a magnet for men who want to have sexual relations with children...Pedophiles join the Scouts for a simple reason: it's where the boys are." Washington Post, May 1991. The newspaper discovered that 1,151 Scouts reported being abused by their leaders during the studied 19-year period. Kerry Lewis, a former member of the BSA who alleged having been abused by former scout leader Timur Dykes in the 1980s. In 1983, Timur Dykes had confessed to the local BSA co-ordinator that he had molested 17 Boy Scouts, but was allowed to continue working with the Scouts where, attorneys argued, he subsequently abused Lewis.
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Yes but they had to lurk. Now they are openly accepted. Young males are growing up with no dads at home and no male role models who aren't queer or totally beta fucks. The future does not look good for the good old U.S of A.
Who accepts pedophilia? Nobody in their right mind.
-Never was a Boy Scout, but did take swimming lessons at the YMCA in the 1950's. It was required that you swim nude. The instructor had us boy's hop down the diving board, jumping in the water at the end. Didn't think there was anything unusual about this until I was much older. Looking back I suffered no trauma. Maybe the instructor thought it was funny as in ha, ha funny.
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I believe you've got this wrong. It has nothing to do with liberals (left) or conservatives (right). It has everything to do with child sex abuse (pedophilia) and like the with Catholic church, a failure to act on it.
In 2010, a jury ordered that the Scouts pay $18.5 million to a Scout who was abused in the 1980s—it was the largest punitive damages award to a single plaintiff in a child abuse case in the US. "The Boy Scouts are a magnet for men who want to have sexual relations with children...Pedophiles join the Scouts for a simple reason: it's where the boys are." Washington Post, May 1991. The newspaper discovered that 1,151 Scouts reported being abused by their leaders during the studied 19-year period. Kerry Lewis, a former member of the BSA who alleged having been abused by former scout leader Timur Dykes in the 1980s. In 1983, Timur Dykes had confessed to the local BSA co-ordinator that he had molested 17 Boy Scouts, but was allowed to continue working with the Scouts where, attorneys argued, he subsequently abused Lewis.
You are talking about a tiny % of scout leaders. Any large organization with millions of members through the years is going to have some bad eggs but when I was a kid all of our scout leaders were dads of the kids.
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Who accepts pedophilia? Nobody in their right mind.
-Never was a Boy Scout, but did take swimming lessons at the YMCA in the 1950's. It was required that you swim nude. The instructor had us boy's hop down the diving board, jumping in the water at the end. Didn't think there was anything unusual about this until I was much older. Looking back I suffered no trauma. Maybe the instructor thought it was funny as in ha, ha funny.
Letting gay scout leaders in the ranks is almost accepting it as homosexual men make up a much larger % of pedophiles than they should be their numbers. Most parents would never allow their boy to go camping with a homosexual man anyway whether or not he's a pedophile. They want leaders who kids should look up to as role models.
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Letting gay scout leaders in the ranks is almost accepting it as homosexual men make up a much larger % of pedophiles than they should be their numbers. Most parents would never allow their boy to go camping with a homosexual man anyway whether or not he's a pedophile. They want leaders who kids should look up to as role models.
Hmmm, are you saying the Boy Scouts intentionally hired pedophiles?
The truth is that there simply is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: The idea that gay men are attracted to young boys at rates any higher than the general population is a scientifically demonstrable lie.
Most men who molest little boys are not gay. Only 21 percent of the child molesters studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own.
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Hmmm, are you saying the Boy Scouts intentionally hired pedophiles?
The truth is that there simply is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: The idea that gay men are attracted to young boys at rates any higher than the general population is a scientifically demonstrable lie.
Most men who molest little boys are not gay. Only 21 percent of the child molesters studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own.
21% 80% Most — 100% of the Filthy Horrible Peadophile’s Should Be Killed.
That’s The Only Statistic I want to Hear about Them.
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'the number one gay lexicon dictionary for homosexual language, and you open it up... and their mascot is, as was the mascot in the advocate... a boy, uh... a boy scout in this case'
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Hmmm, are you saying the Boy Scouts intentionally hired pedophiles?
The truth is that there simply is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: The idea that gay men are attracted to young boys at rates any higher than the general population is a scientifically demonstrable lie.
Most men who molest little boys are not gay. Only 21 percent of the child molesters studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own.
Prime where are you getting these stats?
Bisexuals are as homosexual as they heterosexual. They would not be categorized with heterosexual stats in these findings
Are you saying this to troll?
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You are talking about a tiny % of scout leaders. Any large organization with millions of members through the years is going to have some bad eggs but when I was a kid all of our scout leaders were dads of the kids.
Exactly. I was a Cub Scout, Weeblos and a Boy Scout and the leaders were all Dad's with kids in the pack. Same thing with the Mom's and Girl Scouts.
It wasn't a paid position so I would find it kind of strange if a single man wanted to hang out with boys.
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Hmmm, are you saying the Boy Scouts intentionally hired pedophiles?
The truth is that there simply is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: The idea that gay men are attracted to young boys at rates any higher than the general population is a scientifically demonstrable lie.
Most men who molest little boys are not gay. Only 21 percent of the child molesters studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own.
The idea that a man so sexually attracted to a boy that they would violate all social norms and risk prison time and a lifelong ostracism is not gay just does not comport with common sense. Isn't a male being sexually attracted and turned on but another male the definition of gay? And isn't being Bi mean that you are sexually attracted to both males and females, i.e, gay and hetero? Being sexually attracted to prepubescent boys is just a specific case of gayness, that being both gay and a pedophile?
Can you post the scientific studies that you claim are out there.
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Technology put an end to boyscouts. Kids would rather sit home on their tablets than hike in the woods and learn how to pitch a tent.
A real man knows how to sign on to an ipad, not pitch a tent, go fishing, or make a spear.
Nothing to do with turning it into the genderless scouts.
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Another organization totally ruined by the left.
This x 1000
I seriously can't think of one policy that hasn't failed or one organization they haven't ruined.
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This x 1000
I seriously can't think of one policy that hasn't failed or one organization they haven't ruined.
What?? Dude they are an organization that has leadership that fuck little boys. You’re good with them not being ruined?
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What?? Dude they are an organization that has leadership that fuck little boys. You’re good with them not being ruined?
You don’t take an organization that’s been around for almost 110 years with almost 2.5mil members that’s done more good for youth than just about any other youth organization created? You start within by eradicating, imprisoning (preferably for life or a castration and/or death sentence) and a better background check system. Anytime you have something that big you’re going to have scum.
How come nothing on the Girl Scouts? They’re worse.
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What?? Dude they are an organization that has leadership that fuck little boys. You’re good with them not being ruined?
Has there been a huge scandal where pedophilia is rampant in the Boy Scouts?
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Yes, but there were homo pedos lurking there for the last 100 years.
They would still be lurking even without the boy scouts.
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What?? Dude they are an organization that has leadership that fuck little boys. You’re good with them not being ruined?
Ridiculous.
How many millions of people have had a great experience and enjoyed Scouts compared to maybe a few dozen who have been abused in its history....?
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Hmmm, are you saying the Boy Scouts intentionally hired pedophiles?
The truth is that there simply is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: The idea that gay men are attracted to young boys at rates any higher than the general population is a scientifically demonstrable lie.
Most men who molest little boys are not gay. Only 21 percent of the child molesters studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own.
Letting homos be scout leaders into leadership positions in scouts is letting pedos in, correct. It is a myth that homosexuals are less likely to be pedophiles that heteros. Homosexual males only make up a tiny % of the population but make up a large % of pedophiles. The left uses the overall numbers of more "straight" pedos like they use with welfare and crime stats ignoring the % of that population as opposed to overall numbers.
I would also argue the point of most pedos being heterosexual. If you are attracted to boys that is not being heterosexual. If an older man is molesting girls underage they are still girls. A guy who molests little boys is attracted to BOYS meaning that is homosexuality as well as pedophilia. Lefties always try to muddy the waters of common sense.
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Probably just as well. With them allowing girls in, it was only a matter of time before one of them cried, "#metoo!"
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Ridiculous.
How many millions of people have had a great experience and enjoyed Scouts compared to maybe a few dozen who have been abused in its history....?
Appears to be people that support fucking little boys on here. Weird people man. Dude it’s not just a few. It’s A LOT. It would make sense they can’t afford to keep going with those kind of legal fees.
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https://ilovemyfreedom.org/just-months-after-allowing-girls-into-their-program-boy-scouts-facing-bankruptcy/?utm_source=star&utm_medium=twitter
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https://ilovemyfreedom.org/just-months-after-allowing-girls-into-their-program-boy-scouts-facing-bankruptcy/?utm_source=star&utm_medium=twitter
Coach., come on dude you have to be a little smarter than what you portray. What kind of sites are you informing yourself from? If you’re looking at a .org site built that shitty it’s probably not reliable.
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Appears to be people that support fucking little boys on here. Weird people man. Dude it’s not just a few. It’s A LOT. It would make sense they can’t afford to keep going with those kind of legal fees.
A lot? Could you refer us to such reports? I would think it would be big news like with gymnastics.
And why would you make the leap that anyone that supports pedophilia? Do you feel that way if someone wanted to send their kids to gymnastics?
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A lot? Could you refer us to such reports? I would think it would be big news like with gymnastics.
And why would you make the leap that anyone that supports pedophilia? Do you feel that way if someone wanted to send their kids to gymnastics?
You’re too dumb to debate with, not interested. I think you were one of the dudes that’s in to that shit Gymnastics is not a single entity like Boy Scouts.
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You’re too dumb to debate with, not interested. I think you were one of the dudes that’s in to that shit Gymnastics is not a single entity like Boy Scouts.
As typical of you, you just spout off your opinion and insult those that disagree with you.
Still wearing your cap on backwards and slinging your pants so low like a gangsta teenager?
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You’re too dumb to debate with, not interested. I think you were one of the dudes that’s in to that shit Gymnastics is not a single entity like Boy Scouts.
The entity that is the Boy Scouts is made up of troops in practically every town in America so it's not actually a single entity either. People like you site a few examples of abuse over decades and use that to tarnish a once great organization. It was the left coming in and forcing the scouts to accept gay scout leaders that started the problem.
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The entity that is the Boy Scouts is made up of troops in practically every town in America so it's not actually a single entity either. People like you site a few examples of abuse over decades and use that to tarnish a once great organization. It was the left coming in and forcing the scouts to accept gay scout leaders that started the problem.
A few? There’s tens of thousands.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-boyscouts-abuse/boy-scout-files-reveal-long-history-of-child-sex-abuse-cases-idUSBRE89H0ZF20121018
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There's a reason the Boy Scouts grew so popular and became such a large and influential organizations. They promoted a value system base on Christianity and traditionally male traits such as self-reliance, respect, honor, and duty. These are values most parents at the time wanted to instill in their children.
Not everyone agreed with their value system. One kid I knew parents wouldn't allow him to join because they were Atheist. That's fine and people went their own way.
But then the Left grew more powerful and influential. Rather then start their own organization promoting their own value system they seek to change existing organization that took decades to build. They know deep down that if they tried to start an Atheist or gay organization it will fail.
The Left does not build. They destroy. Always seeking to change establish institutions to comport with their own world view. Whether it be forcing all men institutions to take in women, changing names of schools, even forcing others to do work for you that promotes values you don't believe in -- like baking a cake for a gay wedding.
This is unique to the Left. You never see the Right forcing an existing organization to include Christianity or force women organizations or schools to accept men.
There are many reasons why the Boy Scouts are failing but one of the reasons is that it isn't the Boy Scouts anymore.
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Another American institution goes the way of the dinosaur. :(
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There's a reason the Boy Scouts grew so popular and became such a large and influential organizations. They promoted a value system base on Christianity and traditionally male traits such as self-reliance, respect, honor, and duty. These are values most parents at the time wanted to instill in their children.
Not everyone agreed with their value system. One kid I knew parents wouldn't allow him to join because they were Atheist. That's fine and people went their own way.
But then the Left grew more powerful and influential. Rather then start their own organization promoting their own value system they seek to change existing organization that took decades to build. They know deep down that if they tried to start an Atheist or gay organization it will fail.
The Left does not build. They destroy. Always seeking to change establish institutions to comport with their own world view. Whether it be forcing all men institutions to take in women, changing names of schools, even forcing others to do work for you that promotes values you don't believe in -- like baking a cake for a gay wedding.
This is unique to the Left. You never see the Right forcing an existing organization to include Christianity or force women organizations or schools to accept men.
There are many reasons why the Boy Scouts are failing but one of the reasons is that it isn't the Boy Scouts anymore.
Then those established institutions should voice their opinion and not change. If they are altering their worldview to meet the demands of the Left, that is their own fault. Everyone in America wants to change the culture to suit their own agenda. Religious zealots have been doing this for centuries.
For what it's worth, I was part of the Boy Scouts for two weeks and thought it sucked, so I quit. :D :D
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The Catholic church has been molesting children for centuries and continues to do so. And they shuffle the priests from church to church to avoid prosecution. This is WIDESPREAD with thousands and tens of thousands of children being hurt. Despicable.
Not for centuries. After Vatican 2.
There will always be bad seeds in any organization. The litmus test is not that there are bad people doing bad things but how the organization handles it. Some Americans commit war crimes as do Muslims. We punish our war criminals. The Muslims celebrate them.
I believed when this was first brought to light in the Catholic church that it was just a small minority of bad seeds. With the recent allegations it has become apparent that it is an institutional moral sin that is covered up and therefore tacitly tolerated. As if it's just part of the church. Sort of like sports and steroids. People know everyone uses them but it's openly considered wrong and discourage but in private vials and pill changes hands.
Despite being a life long Catholic and promising my dying father that I will always remain true to my faith, I could no longer be part of the Catholic church and left some months ago.
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Not for centuries. After Vatican 2.
There will always be bad seeds in any organization. The litmus test is not that there are bad people doing bad things but how the organization handles it. Some Americans commit war crimes as do Muslims. We punish our war criminals. The Muslims celebrate them.
I believed when this was first brought to light in the Catholic church that it was just a small minority of bad seeds. With the recent allegations it has become apparent that it is an institutional moral sin that is covered up and therefore tacitly tolerated. As if it's just part of the church. Sort of like sports and steroids. People know everyone uses them but it's openly considered wrong and discourage but in private vials and pill changes hands.
Despite being a life long Catholic and promising my dying father that I will always remain true to my faith, I could no longer be part of the Catholic church and left some months ago.
It's more than a "few" bad seeds. It's THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!! Not just a "few here and there." This scandal is HUGELY being exposed. The Catholic Church has done everything in its power to handle it in a horrible way. It's despicable. I can't fathom how anyone can be part of such an organization any more.
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Then those established institutions should voice their opinion and not change. If they are altering their worldview to meet the demands of the Left, that is their own fault. Everyone in America wants to change the culture to suit their own agenda. Religious zealots have been doing this for centuries.
For what it's worth, I was part of the Boy Scouts for two weeks and thought it sucked, so I quit. :D :D
You are absolutely right. The Boy Scouts did not hold true to their convictions and didn't fight for what they believed in.
Now they are paying the price.
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It's more than a "few" bad seeds. It's THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!! Not just a "few here and there." This scandal is HUGELY being exposed. The Catholic Church has done everything in its power to handle it in a horrible way. It's despicable. I can't fathom how anyone can be part of such an organization any more.
Did you even read my entire post? I agree and that's why despite being a life long Catholic I left the church.
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It's more than a "few" bad seeds. It's THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!! Not just a "few here and there." This scandal is HUGELY being exposed. The Catholic Church has done everything in its power to handle it in a horrible way. It's despicable. I can't fathom how anyone can be part of such an organization any more.
Preach on brotha. What they did in Brazil was absolutely terrible. Actually Catholics do everywhere is horrible. Religious people scare me.
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Did you even read my entire post? I agree and that's why despite being a life long Catholic I left the church.
Yes, I did and I know that you agreed me. I just wanted to continue my rant. It was cathartic :D :D
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Preach on brotha. What they did in Brazil was absolutely terrible. Actually Catholics do everywhere is horrible. Religious people scare me.
Another one exposed in Philadelphia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_scandal_in_the_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Philadelphia
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Key-Dates-in-the-Pennsylvania-Church-Abuse-Scandal-490857191.html
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Did you even read my entire post? I agree and that's why despite being a life long Catholic I left the church.
This is the thing: If the religious conservatives had their way, they would LOVE for America to be a theocracy. And you know it. I know many conservatives who believe this country would be better off if it was run like a theocracy, followed by Christian-Judeo principles. The problem, is they do not have the power or voice to make this happen, but you bet your ass if they did, they would love for it to happen and would have no problem making America a theocracy and "going back to the way things were in the 1700's or whatever." . But again, it's out of their reach, so do they don't toy with the idea because they don't have the power to accomplish such a goal.
When the Left seizes an opportunity to exert their power and alter society, they will do so, just like the Right would if the pendulum swung back in their direction. In every society or culture, the group in power will modify society to fit their worldview. Right now its the Left with their Progressive ideas. Maybe in 100 years, it will be the conservatives.
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This is the thing: If the religious conservatives had their way, they would LOVE for America to be a theocracy. And you know it. I know many conservatives who believe this country would be better off if it was run like a theocracy, followed by Christian-Judeo principles. The problem, is they do not have the power or voice to make this happen, but you bet your ass if they did, they would love for it to happen and would have no problem making America a theocracy and "going back to the way things were in the 1700's or whatever." . But again, it's out of their reach, so do they don't toy with the idea because they don't have the power to accomplish such a goal.
When the Left seizes an opportunity to exert their power and alter society, they will do so, just like the Right would if the pendulum swung back in their direction. In every society or culture, the group in power will modify society to fit their worldview. Right now its the Left with their Progressive ideas. Maybe in 100 years, it will be the conservatives.
Simply not true. One of our founding principles was for a secular government but, admittedly, a religious culture. Remember, one of the reasons people came here was to escape religious persecution.
Speaking for myself, everyone I know, as well as political pundits and conservative commentators (Limbaugh, Hannity, Hewitt, Prayer...), none would want to see a State run religion. All insist on a secular government.
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This is the thing: If the religious conservatives had their way, they would LOVE for America to be a theocracy. And you know it. I know many conservatives who believe this country would be better off if it was run like a theocracy, followed by Christian-Judeo principles. The problem, is they do not have the power or voice to make this happen, but you bet your ass if they did, they would love for it to happen and would have no problem making America a theocracy and "going back to the way things were in the 1700's or whatever." . But again, it's out of their reach, so do they don't toy with the idea because they don't have the power to accomplish such a goal.
When the Left seizes an opportunity to exert their power and alter society, they will do so, just like the Right would if the pendulum swung back in their direction. In every society or culture, the group in power will modify society to fit their worldview. Right now its the Left with their Progressive ideas. Maybe in 100 years, it will be the conservatives.
Also, it's not so much the right wanting to "seize power" to promote their value system but rather to preserve, or conserve if you will, tradition value systems that has withstood the test of time like marriage and family being run by a mother and father.
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The entity that is the Boy Scouts is made up of troops in practically every town in America so it's not actually a single entity either. People like you site a few examples of abuse over decades and use that to tarnish a once great organization. It was the left coming in and forcing the scouts to accept gay scout leaders that started the problem.
Beggars belief Why the Left Would want to do that.
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Simply not true. One of our founding principles was for a secular government but, admittedly, a religious culture. Remember, one of the reasons people came here was to escape religious persecution.
Speaking for myself, everyone I know, as well as political pundits and conservative commentators (Limbaugh, Hannity, Hewitt, Prayer...), none would want to see a State run religion. All insist on a secular government.
I am talking about civilians. If the average republican conservative (civilian) could turn it into a theocracy, they would in a heartbeat.
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As long as the IFBB isn’t filing from bankruptcy we should be fine
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Also, it's not so much the right wanting to "seize power" to promote their value system but rather to preserve, or conserve if you will, tradition value systems that has withstood the test of time like marriage and family being run by a mother and father.
You're making up excuses. It's to hold onto power. Humans are extremely motivated by power. When your worldview is the dominant one, of course one feels a sense of power. A fundamental attribute of human nature is to preserve one's culture because it offers a sense of dominance and power over others.
Further, I don't care about traditional value systems, except within the context of good evidence. Something could be a traditional value but not align with good evidence. Many "traditional values" have gone by the way side because it's been proven to be wrong. Again, I don't care how old or new the stance is. I care whether it stands up to the scrutiny of good evidence. That should be the only parameters in which a value system should be examined--not because "well, it was done in the past."
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A fundamental attribute of human nature is to preserve one's culture because it offers a sense of dominance and power over others.
this line of insidious garbage, authored for imbeciles, when viewed thru the most perverted lens of 'multiculturalism'... is a sure recipe for disaster.
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As long as the IFBB isn’t filing from bankruptcy we should be fine
No, they dodged that bullet:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/politics/david-pecker-immunity-cohen/index.html
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Also, it's not so much the right wanting to "seize power" to promote their value system but rather to preserve, or conserve if you will, tradition value systems that has withstood the test of time like marriage and family being run by a mother and father.
Just tell him he's right and he'll stop. ::)
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I am talking about civilians. If the average republican conservative (civilian) could turn it into a theocracy, they would in a heartbeat.
But the religious types are just a small amount of Republicans.
Libertarians and those favouring a free-market, non-socialist system with less state intervention will vote for the Republicans.
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I am talking about civilians. If the average republican conservative (civilian) could turn it into a theocracy, they would in a heartbeat.
I'm an average Republican Conservative and so is Coach. Neither of us want to turn this society into a theocracy. If anything, Republic Conservatives are Constitutionalist. We believe in the Constitution.
Why do you feel you can speak for Republican Conservatives.
(BTW, I'm glad that you make a clear distinction between Republican Conservatives and Republicans._
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You're making up excuses. It's to hold onto power. Humans are extremely motivated by power. When your worldview is the dominant one, of course one feels a sense of power. A fundamental attribute of human nature is to preserve one's culture because it offers a sense of dominance and power over others.
Further, I don't care about traditional value systems, except within the context of good evidence. Something could be a traditional value but not align with good evidence. Many "traditional values" have gone by the way side because it's been proven to be wrong. Again, I don't care how old or new the stance is. I care whether it stands up to the scrutiny of good evidence. That should be the only
parameters in which a value system should be examined--not because "well, it was done in the past."
Holy cow! I didn't realize you had such an adversarial view towards those that don't share your beliefs. Is it possible that you can leave open the possibility that I, as well as others, hold the views that we do because we actually believe in them? That it's not to assert dominance and power over others. That we actually believe that having a mother and a father is the best situation for raising a child. That we believe in clear distinctions between men and women: how they act, how they dress, the role they play in society and family. That marriage is between a man and a woman...
And, of course, you; and many, many others, dismiss traditional values and shake your head and turn your nose up at them. Old fogies. That's why we fight. That's the eternal battle.
But you claim you do care if it stands up to scrutiny and evidence.
Well, how has that worked out? Now that the government has assumed the role of the provider, men no longer feel that sense of responsibility when deciding to have children than when I was a kid. How has the single parent family worked out? How has the blurring of the roles and behavior between men and women worked out for society? How has the more "fluid" nature of sexuality worked out for our children?
What kind of role models are boys taught to aspire to? This was something that was inculcated in my generation. I remember my father was wise to the fact that I always looked up to strong, kick-ass type of men: Bruce Lee, Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson, so he tried to teach me that there's more to strength than just muscles, fists and guns. That there is strength in character. He made me read books like "To Kill a Mocking Bird" and pay close attention to how the character Atticus Finch conducted himself. Always with dignity, respect, fighting for he believed in regardless of the outcome.
“Atticus, you must be wrong…,” said Scout.
“How’s that?”
“Well, most folks seem to think they’re right and you’re wrong…”
“They’re certainly entitled to think that, and they’re entitled to full respect for their opinions,” said Atticus, “but before I can live with other folks I’ve got to live with myself. The one thing that doesn’t abide by majority rule is a person’s conscience.”
-- Harper Lee, To Kill a Mocking Bird
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Not for centuries. After Vatican 2.
There will always be bad seeds in any organization. The litmus test is not that there are bad people doing bad things but how the organization handles it. Some Americans commit war crimes as do Muslims. We punish our war criminals. The Muslims celebrate them.
I believed when this was first brought to light in the Catholic church that it was just a small minority of bad seeds. With the recent allegations it has become apparent that it is an institutional moral sin that is covered up and therefore tacitly tolerated. As if it's just part of the church. Sort of like sports and steroids. People know everyone uses them but it's openly considered wrong and discourage but in private vials and pill changes hands.
Despite being a life long Catholic and promising my dying father that I will always remain true to my faith, I could no longer be part of the Catholic church and left some months ago.
What do you practice now? Orthodox church, protestant or just believe on your own?
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The truth is that there simply is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: The idea that gay men are attracted to young boys at rates any higher than the general population is a scientifically demonstrable lie.
Most men who molest little boys are not gay. Only 21 percent of the child molesters studied who assault little boys were exclusively homosexual. Nearly 80 percent of the men who molested little boys were heterosexual or bisexual and most of these men were married and had children of their own.
You've contradicted yourself. Gay men clearly are attracted to young boys at a higher rate then the general population since homosexuals make up far less then 21% of the overall male population.
Homosexuality itself may often be the result of childhood molestation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501300
Also, pro-pedophilia advocacy groups were founded and led by homosexuals.
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Prime where are you getting these stats?
Bisexuals are as homosexual as they heterosexual. They would not be categorized with heterosexual stats in these findings
Are you saying this to troll?
I apologize for not citing the sources. Suffice it to say, I didn't make this up. Truthfully, stats to support a variety of opposing positions can easily be found.
I don't troll. You are correct in that bisexual means "one swings both ways." Also, like you indicate, bisexuals should probably be in a separate category and not included in either the heterosexual or homosexual percentiles.
By definition, pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children whether male or female. This often is confused with an attraction to teenagers and young adults, which is a different issue where sexual preference is more likely to be involved. Largely depending on laws that define age of consent, it can be child sexual abuse. IMO, it is wrong and possibly illegal. Here is one source that explains this much better than I can: https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2017/11/11/pedophilia-and-child-sexual-abuse-are-two-different-things-confusing-them-is-harmful-to-children/
I believe all legally sexual acts should be mutually agreed upon without coercion. Anything else is rape.
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What do you practice now? Orthodox church, protestant or just believe on your own?
Nondenominational Christian Church similar to New Hope. It's one my cousin goes to. Not completely comfortable. Little to informal for my taste. Lots of guitar and singing and the Pastor wears jeans and an Aloha shirt. It's not even in a church but a movie theatre.
I like to see candles, statues, stained glass, pews robes, and the crucifix.
If a stranger pokes his head in during a Mass there's no doubt a religious service is going on. With this service, it could be a motivational seminar with Tony Robbins.
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I apologize for not citing the sources. Suffice it to say, I didn't make this up. Truthfully, stats to support a variety of opposing positions can easily be found.
I don't troll. You are correct in that bisexual means "one swings both ways." Also, like you indicate, bisexuals should probably be in a separate category and not included in either the heterosexual or homosexual percentiles.
By definition, pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children whether male or female. This often is confused with an attraction to teenagers and young adults, which is a different issue where sexual preference is more likely to be involved. Largely depending on laws that define the age of consent, it can be child sexual abuse. IMO, it is wrong and possibly illegal. Here is one source that explains this much better than I can: https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2017/11/11/pedophilia-and-child-sexual-abuse-are-two-different-things-confusing-them-is-harmful-to-children/
I believe all legally sexual acts should be mutually agreed upon without coercion. Anything else is rape.
A man being sexually attracted to another male, whatever the age, is gay. If the male is a prepubescent boy then he is a gay pedophile.
Why do you dispute this other then you think it makes gays look worse as your instinct is always to stick up for homosexuals?
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A man being sexually attracted to another male, whatever the age, is gay. If the male is a prepubescent boy then he is a gay pedophile.
Why do you dispute this other then you think it makes gays look worse as your instinct is always to stick up for homosexuals?
Because He’s Cock Loving Queer
And is always trying to justify his disgusting abhorrent tendencies.
As well as being a leftist libtard.
Other than them issues Prime can be alright.
:)
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A man being sexually attracted to another male, whatever the age, is gay. If the male is a prepubescent boy then he is a gay pedophile.
Why do you dispute this other then you think it makes gays look worse as your instinct is always to stick up for homosexuals?
not true. gay or straight people are those attracted to individuals that are sexually developed. paedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children that by definition are not sexually developed.
classing a pedo "gay" or "straight" is an insult to both groups. only a pedo or possibly someone asexual would think otherwise.
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not true. gay or straight people are those attracted to individuals that are sexually developed. paedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children that by definition are not sexually developed.
classing a pedo "gay" or "straight" is an insult to both groups. only a pedo or possibly someone asexual would think otherwise.
It is always an invalid argument, , even if true, to say that if someone believes such and such then they are a this or that. That's not an argument. I can just as easily say that anybody that doesn't think a male having sex with another male regardless of age isn't gay is either gay himself or a pedo.
And for the record:
'Homosexual Pedophiles': A Clinical Term
The fact is, however, that the terms "homosexual" and "pedophile" are not mutually exclusive: they describe two intersecting types of sexual attraction. Webster's Dictionary defines "homosexual" as someone who is sexually attracted to persons of the same sex. "Pedophile" is defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to young children." The former definition refers to the gender of the desired sexual object, while the latter refers to the age of the desired sexual object.
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyHomosexualAbuse.php?%2Farticles%2FDaileyHomosexualAbuse.htm
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not true. gay or straight people are those attracted to individuals that are sexually developed. paedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children that by definition are not sexually developed.
Plonker is talking about pedo "prophet" mohammad & his 6 y.o. 'wife' Aisha ::)
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Nondenominational Christian Church similar to New Hope. It's one my cousin goes to. Not completely comfortable. Little to informal for my taste. Lots of guitar and singing and the Pastor wears jeans and an Aloha shirt. It's not even in a church but a movie theatre.
I like to see candles, statues, stained glass, pews robes, and the crucifix.
If a stranger pokes his head in during a Mass there's no doubt a religious service is going on. With this service, it could be a motivational seminar with Tony Robbins.
I like Aloha shirts 2, bought 6 of them in Prince Hulio place ..........
Some of polyester Aloha's $ 2000 ( :o :o :o) , 60's design ............
Some big waves on Oahu ...........
Mahalo
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It is always an invalid argument, , even if true, to say that if someone believes such and such then they are a this or that. That's not an argument. I can just as easily say that anybody that doesn't think a male having sex with another male regardless of age isn't gay is either gay himself or a pedo.
And for the record:
'Homosexual Pedophiles': A Clinical Term
The fact is, however, that the terms "homosexual" and "pedophile" are not mutually exclusive: they describe two intersecting types of sexual attraction. Webster's Dictionary defines "homosexual" as someone who is sexually attracted to persons of the same sex. "Pedophile" is defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to young children." The former definition refers to the gender of the desired sexual object, while the latter refers to the age of the desired sexual object.
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyHomosexualAbuse.php?%2Farticles%2FDaileyHomosexualAbuse.htm
"orthodoxy today"?
do you really think it's surprising that an organisation involved or related to the church would attempt to normalise the desire to have sex with children by classifying it as hetro or homosexual?
prepubescent children are not sexual beings. example, having sex with a 2 year old girl is not in any way a heterosexual act. it's just paedophilic depravity.
would you class someone who wants to have sex with female dogs as a heterosexual? what if it was a puppy too?
to qualify what i said earlier. there are only two logical reasons that someone would describe paedophilia as hetro or homo...one you are trying to in some way normalise/ make it sound more acceptable (as per your article). or 2) you don't have any normal understanding of sexuality because you're most likely asexual.
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"orthodoxy today"?
do you really think it's surprising that an organisation involved or related to the church would attempt to normalise the desire to have sex with children by classifying it as hetro or homosexual?
prepubescent children are not sexual beings. example, having sex with a 2 year old girl is not in any way a heterosexual act. it's just paedophilic depravity.
would you class someone who wants to have sex with female dogs as a heterosexual? what if it was a puppy too?
to qualify what i said earlier. there are only two logical reasons that someone would describe paedophilia as hetro or homo...one you are trying to in some way normalise/ make it sound more acceptable (as per your article). or 2) you don't have any normal understanding of sexuality because you're most likely asexual.
Because you disagree with a conclusion you simply dismiss the source. Typical from the way you argue points on this board and very Basile-like.
You try to make an analogy between homosexuality and pedophilia, with bestiality. Not even close. Just grasping for straws.
Again you try to claim the mantle of logic with absolute nonsense. The idea that one distinguishes between sex between a male and a female vis-a-vis pedophilia, therefore, means you are trying to make it acceptable. WHAT?
The idea that one distinguishes between sex between a male and a female vis-a-vis pedophilia means one is asexual. WHAT?
One of the reasons you have so much trouble on this board is that you are from a different culture and religion that many in the Western world consider anathema to a decent and civilized society.
Webster Dictionary is a fairly reliable source with no agenda.
"Webster's Dictionary defines "homosexual" as someone who is sexually attracted to persons of the same sex. "Pedophile" is defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to young children." The former definition refers to the gender of the desired sexual object, while the latter refers to the age of the desired sexual object."
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lol pelius my little elfing friend.
you are a single, unemployed, broke polynesian wanna be white man(elf) from hawaii that does voluntary work just to get out of the house, and you want to talk to me about "western culture" lol . you live in a broken down shack on some sleepy holiday island. i run a business and live in a nice house in an affluent region of london. and btw i happen to be a baptised christian. i just personally want no association with the weirdos and deviants (like yourself) that have hijacked the christian religion.
back on topic. anyone that really believes they can put forward "orthodoxy today" as an authoritative source in a discussion re paedophilia has to be an idiot of towering proportions.
as previously said. if you believe sex with a 2 year old girl is a heterosexual act you're one sick and or confused fk.
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lol pelius my little elfing friend.
you are a single, unemployed, broke polynesian wanna be white man(elf) from hawaii that does voluntary work just to get out of the house, and you want to talk to me about "western culture" lol . you live in a broken down shack on some sleepy holiday island. i run a business and live in a nice house in an affluent region of london. and btw i happen to be a baptised christian. i just personally want no association with the weirdos and deviants (like yourself) that have hijacked the christian religion.
back on topic. anyone that really believes they can put forward "orthodoxy today" as an authoritative source in a discussion re paedophilia has to be an idiot of towering proportions.
as previously said. if you believe sex with a 2 year old girl is a heterosexual act you're one sick and or confused fk.
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It would be heterosexual and pedophilia only homos don't want to admit this because of the link between homosexuals and pedophilia.
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It would be heterosexual and pedophilia only homos don't want to admit this because of the link between homosexuals and pedophilia.
there is no more link between homos and pedos than there is between hetros and pedos.
pedos are creatures that want to have sex with non sexual beings that have little/no understanding of what the perpetrator is doing. not much different to someone that wants to have sex with a dog. WOOF!
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This thread turned really gross really quick. I’m glad the LDS church pulled out and is starting their own organization next year. I wonder if they’ll let non members kids in?
Pellius, why don’t you become LDS?
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there is no more link between homos and pedos than there is between hetros and pedos.
pedos are creatures that want to have sex with non sexual beings that have little/no understanding of what the perpetrator is doing. not much different to someone that wants to have sex with a dog. WOOF!
But there is a link you just don't want to accept it.
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Nondenominational Christian Church similar to New Hope. It's one my cousin goes to. Not completely comfortable. Little to informal for my taste. Lots of guitar and singing and the Pastor wears jeans and an Aloha shirt. It's not even in a church but a movie theatre.
I like to see candles, statues, stained glass, pews robes, and the crucifix.
If a stranger pokes his head in during a Mass there's no doubt a religious service is going on. With this service, it could be a motivational seminar with Tony Robbins.
My mom's parents were devout Catholics so I went to mass several times as a child so I can see where it would be weird to attend a church that doesn't have the symbolism and ceremonies.
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there is no more link between homos and pedos than there is between hetros and pedos.
pedos are creatures that want to have sex with non sexual beings that have little/no understanding of what the perpetrator is doing. not much different to someone that wants to have sex with a dog. WOOF!
So you think an adult male sexually attracted to prepubescent males is not considered homosexual? This wouldn't be considered heterosexual behavior.
You do realize you can have multiple classifications of sexual abnormalities?
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So you think an adult male sexually attracted to prepubescent males is not considered homosexual? This wouldn't be considered heterosexual behavior.
You do realize you can have multiple classifications of sexual abnormalities?
no. they may also be homosexual (or heterosexual) but i don't believe the act of having or wanting to have sex with a prepubescent child is either homosexual or heterosexual.
you think a man that has no sexual interest in a sexually developed female but wants to have sex with a small girl is heterosexual?
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no. they may also be homosexual (or heterosexual) but i don't believe the act of having or wanting to have sex with a prepubescent child is either homosexual or heterosexual.
you think a man that has no sexual interest in a sexually developed female but wants to have sex with a small girl is heterosexual?
I agree that pedos should be in a category of their own, they are not gay or straight they are sick in the head and have no room in any society. Not fair to label them as homosexual as homos have no attraction to kids and do no harm other than sometimes to themselves. Pedos are another ball game completely, they can't be cured either, even castration doesn't work.
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lol pelius my little elfing friend.
you are a single, unemployed, broke polynesian wanna be white man(elf) from hawaii that does voluntary work just to get out of the house, and you want to talk to me about "western culture" lol . you live in a broken down shack on some sleepy holiday island. i run a business and live in a nice house in an affluent region of london. and btw i happen to be a baptised christian. i just personally want no association with the weirdos and deviants (like yourself) that have hijacked the christian religion.
back on topic. anyone that really believes they can put forward "orthodoxy today" as an authoritative source in a discussion re paedophilia has to be an idiot of towering proportions.
as previously said. if you believe sex with a 2 year old girl is a heterosexual act you're one sick and or confused fk.
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Once again you present the same non-argument: "Believe what I believe or you are a ... blah, blah, blah, whatever personal insult comes to mind.
That is not a rational nor logical argument but you seem to lack the intellectual heft to realize that so you keep making it.
And once again you display such a clueless lack of credibility. Lets just go down the list of your accusations against me.
Being one of the more open members on this board, I have posted pictures of me on the job. Posted pictures of where I live -- right near the ocean. Recently posted pictures of me inside my house with family and friends. I have been married and have raised, and currently raising, two generations of children.
You make claims that you will never prove. Running a business tells me nothing. So you pick cans and plastic bottles out of a rubbish can. OK, so you are your own boss and make your own hours. Congratulations. Now post pics of your house and your affluent neighborhood.
You are not a Christian but an avowed anti-Semite.
You deny the evidence and facts that homosexuals are disproportionately involved in pedophilia and defend Allah, an avowed pedophile, yet accuse me of trying to "protect" gays or pedos.
No one here gives you any credibility at all but you will continue with your same tired line of non-reasoning: "Those that don't believe and support me are ...
blah, blah, blah."
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yawn on pedolust. you are one of the most boring posters on the board. i've posted plenty pics myself and i posted a video showing the inside of my house and recent renovations a few months ago in vince G's thread.
i don't want to rag on you because you are obviously a misfit and one of life's losers and too easy a target but please don't talk to me about "western culture" when you're a down and out that lives in a hut on the beach.
and yes i am christian, and no i am not anti semitic. i grew up with plenty of jews, my first GF was jewish and one of my best lifelong friends happens to be jewish. i am anti the israeli regime...i wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.
now run along skinny elf boy...go help your "god" plan another scam or something
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yawn on pedolust. you are one of the most boring posters on the board. i've posted plenty pics myself and i posted a video showing the inside of my house and recent renovations a few months ago in vince G's thread.
i don't want to rag on you because you are obviously a misfit and one of life's losers and too easy a target but please don't talk to me about "western culture" when you're a down and out that lives in a hut on the beach.
and yes i am christian, and no i am not anti semitic. i grew up with plenty of jews, my first GF was jewish and one of my best lifelong friends happens to be jewish. i am anti the israeli regime...i wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.
now run along skinny elf boy...go help your "god" plan another scam or something
That's all you have left. Still unable to make a coherent argument and just name call and making demonstrably false accusations that have already been proven wrong? I had to endure pages of your antisemitic rants and support of the destruction Israel.
You're no Christian and defend a religion and belief system whose founder was an avowed pedophile and bisexual.
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no. they may also be homosexual (or heterosexual) but i don't believe the act of having or wanting to have sex with a prepubescent child is either homosexual or heterosexual.
you think a man that has no sexual interest in a sexually developed female but wants to have sex with a small girl is heterosexual?
I understand your point.
Society has defined heterosexual (opposite sex attraction) and homosexuality (same sex attraction) while pedophilia is classified as a psychiatric disorder. I didn't realize pedo's are ONLY attracted to children.
I was wrong.
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A man being sexually attracted to another male, whatever the age, is gay. If the male is a prepubescent boy then he is a gay pedophile.
Why do you dispute this other then you think it makes gays look worse as your instinct is always to stick up for homosexuals?
Science disputes it. Read up!
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It is always an invalid argument, , even if true, to say that if someone believes such and such then they are a this or that. That's not an argument. I can just as easily say that anybody that doesn't think a male having sex with another male regardless of age isn't gay is either gay himself or a pedo.
And for the record:
'Homosexual Pedophiles': A Clinical Term
The fact is, however, that the terms "homosexual" and "pedophile" are not mutually exclusive: they describe two intersecting types of sexual attraction. Webster's Dictionary defines "homosexual" as someone who is sexually attracted to persons of the same sex. "Pedophile" is defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to young children." The former definition refers to the gender of the desired sexual object, while the latter refers to the age of the desired sexual object.
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyHomosexualAbuse.php?%2Farticles%2FDaileyHomosexualAbuse.htm
Thanks for the link. To put perspective on this website and Fr. Johannes Jacobse opinions verses scientific findings, read the about page. http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/about/
To hear Fr. Johannes Jacobse preach check out his video:
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I agree that pedos should be in a category of their own, they are not gay or straight they are sick in the head and have no room in any society. Not fair to label them as homosexual as homos have no attraction to kids and do no harm other than sometimes to themselves. Pedos are another ball game completely, they can't be cured either, even castration doesn't work.
Some pedophiles are married to or partnered with either a woman or another man. In my opinion, it is possible for a person to be both heterosexual or homosexual and also a pedophile.
Jerry Sandusky was found guilty of child sexual abuse, but not pedophilia. However, there's a strong possibility he molested prepubescent children. Sandusky married Dorothy "Dottie" in 1966, and together they have six adopted children. One of his sons, Jeffrey Sandusky was arrested in 2017 and charged with sexual abuse of a child. In his case, it was a 15 year old girl. Another of Jerry's adopted sons, Matt claims he was molested by his adoptive father. Whew, that was one really fucked up situation. Surely Jerry's wife Dotti knew something wasn't right with her husband, wouldn't you think?
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I understand your point.
Society has defined heterosexual (opposite sex attraction) and homosexuality (same sex attraction) while pedophilia is classified as a psychiatric disorder. I didn't realize pedo's are ONLY attracted to children.
I was wrong.
Perhaps you weren't wrong.
"Although the majority of pedophiles are exclusively attracted to children, many are fortunate to have some attraction to men or women their own age. This is why many pedophiles are able to get married, have healthy sex lives, bear children, and even deny the reality of their attraction to children far into their adult lives." https://www.cbc.ca/firsthand/m/features/four-misconceptions-about-pedophiles
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Thanks for the link. To put perspective on this website and Fr. Johannes Jacobse opinions verses scientific findings, read the about page. http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/about/
To hear Fr. Johannes Jacobse preach check out his video:
The article was not written by Fr. Jacobse.
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Science disputes it. Read up!
Science supports it. Read up!
https://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/student_life/studentorgs/lawreview/docs/issues/v14n2/Vol.%2014,%20No.%202,%203%20Baldwin.pdf
"Using twisted logic, pro-gay academics argue in various social
science journals that the molestation of boys is not a gay lifestyle issue
and that such men are not really homosexuals. It is simply amazing that
gay propagandists and sexology "experts" are successfully bamboozling
the public and the media into believing that a man's exclusive focus on
young males should not be defined as homosexuality! But if an exclusive
attraction of a male to other males of any age is not homosexuality, what is?"
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Science supports it. Read up!
https://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/student_life/studentorgs/lawreview/docs/issues/v14n2/Vol.%2014,%20No.%202,%203%20Baldwin.pdf
"Using twisted logic, pro-gay academics argue in various social
science journals that the molestation of boys is not a gay lifestyle issue
and that such men are not really homosexuals. It is simply amazing that
gay propagandists and sexology "experts" are successfully bamboozling
the public and the media into believing that a man's exclusive focus on
young males should not be defined as homosexuality! But if an exclusive
attraction of a male to other males of any age is not homosexuality, what is?"
What's even more interesting is that pedophilia is classified as a psychiatric disorder and not a sexual orientation but homosexuality or a identity issue such as transgender aren't classified as such.
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Nothing to do with turning it into the genderless scouts.
I was in Boy Scouts and my troop would have enjoyed having the Girl scouts join us.
I believe the ruling even allowed older girls in their late teens to join to try to attain the Eagle scout. The white knighting would be ridiculous.
Believe me, the complaints would be coming from the girls, not the boys.
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I was in Boy Scouts and my troop would have enjoyed having the Girl scouts join us.
I believe the ruling even allowed older girls in their late teens to join to try to attain the Eagle scout. The white knighting would be ridiculous.
Believe me, the complaints would be coming from the girls, not the boys.
In such a situation, males and females should be kept separate. At the time, as a teen, I would think it would be great...but there would be relationships and sleeping around and this would not be good for discipline and team building.
Same with the military, men and women should be in separate units.
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At the end of the day the Boy Scouts were fine just the way it was. It wasn't perfect. Nothing is. The problem with gay predators are everywhere. In swimming, wrestling, football, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools, bbing... It was better when no one came out as openly gay. Your sexuality shouldn't be an issue when involved with work and organizations. Just keep it to yourself and keep it private. I miss the closet. Now everybody thinks it's better and liberating and enhances society that we know all about your proclivities. That you like to have sex with men and women, you like to wear panties, your cock is pierced, you cover yourself with oil and pose naked in the mirror with "Billie Jean" blasting in the back groud, you stick vibrators in your ass... nobody needs to hear about it or know it.
The Left always wants to change and destroy existing traditional institutions.
Just start your own and leave well enough alone.
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and yes i am christian, and no i am not anti semitic. i grew up with plenty of jews, my first GF was jewish and one of my best lifelong friends happens to be jewish. i am anti the israeli regime...i wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.
BS bigger than Banzai Pipeline & Tommy Robinson is your friend 2 ........................ .....
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The article was not written by Fr. Jacobse.
Your right it wasn't written by him. However, he published it on his website. Fr. Jacobse and Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D. are of the same mind regarding many things. Timothy J. Dailey has senior-level research and writing experience with major Christian ministries, including working in the public policy arena in Washington DC. He has been a writer and editor of commentaries for a nationally-syndicated radio program. Doctor Dailey's writings draw upon insights which are drawn from the author's extensive training, including a Ph.D. in Religion and Ethics. Dr. Dailey argued that a "paranormal conspiracy" including such phenomena as UFOs, Bigfoot, spirit contact, ghosts, and alien abduction is part of a demonic deception.
So what's your point? They are both religious crackpots IMO.
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Your right it wasn't written by him. However, he published it on his website. Are you suggesting Fr. Jacobse does not agree or support what Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D. wrote?
No, but it does not discount the validity of Daily's article. Just like if someone I disagree with, say David Duke, supports Trump, it doesn't diminish or discredits Trump's stance on immigration, taxes, military...
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pedolust you really are a dumb shyte. none of what you've offered has anything to do with "science". they're just very biased opinion pieces. post something from a science journal that is peer reviewed.
i really don't get what your motives are for trying to cosy up with hard right conservatism as you do? you do realise these people would view your poor, unemployed, ethnic @ss as a piece of sht right?
what is the deal? you're the bottom of the pile...are you trying to make yourself feel better by attacking gays? or are you repressed?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/666571
A random sample of 175 males convicted of sexual assault against children was screened with reference to their adult sexual orientation and the sex of their victims. The sample divided fairly evenly into two groups based on whether they were sexually fixated exclusively on children or had regressed from peer relationships. Female children were victimized nearly twice as often as male children. All regressed offenders, whether their victims were male or female children, were heterosexual in their adult orientation. There were no examples of regression to child victims among peer-oriented, homosexual males. The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male.
Ok homosexual paedophilia may be a "clinical term" but you'll notice there's a clear distinction made between homosexuality and "homosexual paedophilia"
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No, but it does not discount the validity of Daily's article. Just like if someone I disagree with, say David Duke, supports Trump, it doesn't diminish or discredits Trump's stance on immigration, taxes, military...
Sorry, I looked further into Dr. Dailey after I originally posted my reply. A problem some people have is they believe just because someone has a PhD. they should be believed because they must know what they are talking about regardless the subject. Nowhere could I find that he is trained in or qualified to speak on human sexuality other than to express his opinions which are not necessarily based on valid or factual findings. He has spoken and written his views on various aspects of homosexuality. Obviously, he is very interested in this subject....almost obsessively so.
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At the end of the day the Boy Scouts were fine just the way it was. It wasn't perfect. Nothing is. The problem with gay predators are everywhere. In swimming, wrestling, football, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools, bbing... It was better when no one came out as openly gay. Your sexuality shouldn't be an issue when involved with work and organizations. Just keep it to yourself and keep it private. I miss the closet. Now everybody thinks it's better and liberating and enhances society that we know all about your proclivities. That you like to have sex with men and women, you like to wear panties, your cock is pierced, you cover yourself with oil and pose naked in the mirror with "Billie Jean" blasting in the back groud, you stick vibrators in your ass... nobody needs to hear about it or know it.
The Left always wants to change and destroy existing traditional institutions.
Just start your own and leave well enough alone.
It's hard to accept that you actually believe the Boy Scouts was fine just the way it was when they facilitated and possibly protected child molesters, who BTW way were probably in the closet where you say they should stay. You comments about people's proclivities is very colorful and descriptive. How is it you know so much about these things? Hmmm.
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At the end of the day the Boy Scouts were fine just the way it was. It wasn't perfect. Nothing is. The problem with gay predators are everywhere. In swimming, wrestling, football, high schools, middle schools, elementary schools, bbing... It was better when no one came out as openly gay. Your sexuality shouldn't be an issue when involved with work and organizations. Just keep it to yourself and keep it private. I miss the closet. Now everybody thinks it's better and liberating and enhances society that we know all about your proclivities. That you like to have sex with men and women, you like to wear panties, your cock is pierced, you cover yourself with oil and pose naked in the mirror with "Billie Jean" blasting in the back groud, you stick vibrators in your ass... nobody needs to hear about it or know it.
The Left always wants to change and destroy existing traditional institutions.
Just start your own and leave well enough alone.
Agreed. I wish the queers would stay in the closet.
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Dude, you live in Hawaii...repeat you live in f'n Hawaii.
Please, for your own sake, get off the cpu and go enjoy yourself.
You'll thank me later. :D
Get to a gym and get rid of the flab.
You'll thank me later.
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It's hard to accept that you actually believe the Boy Scouts was fine just the way it was when they facilitated and possibly protected child molesters, who BTW way were probably in the closet where you say they should stay. You comments about people's proclivities is very colorful and descriptive. How is it you know so much about these things? Hmmm.
I know it's hard for you to accept because you don't want to. You prefer to believe that gays and homosexuality is everywhere and on everyone's mind. Despite the fact that the Boy Scouts have been one of the most successful organizations in instilling character, values, and self reliance ever for boys transitioning to men now you want to claim they facilitated and protected child molestation.
You were never a Scout. I was from a preteen up until high school. Faggotry was a non issue. The subject of gays and homosexuality was just never even brought up or a factor or consideration with anything? Not everybody has gay sex on their mind or has it as the most defining issue in their lives?
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pedolust you really are a dumb shyte. none of what you've offered has anything to do with "science". they're just very biased opinion pieces. post something from a science journal that is peer reviewed.
i really don't get what your motives are for trying to cosy up with hard right conservatism as you do? you do realise these people would view your poor, unemployed, ethnic @ss as a piece of sht right?
what is the deal? you're the bottom of the pile...are you trying to make yourself feel better by attacking gays? or are you repressed?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/666571
A random sample of 175 males convicted of sexual assault against children was screened with reference to their adult sexual orientation and the sex of their victims. The sample divided fairly evenly into two groups based on whether they were sexually fixated exclusively on children or had regressed from peer relationships. Female children were victimized nearly twice as often as male children. All regressed offenders, whether their victims were male or female children, were heterosexual in their adult orientation. There were no examples of regression to child victims among peer-oriented, homosexual males. The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male.
Ok homosexual paedophilia may be a "clinical term" but you'll notice there's a clear distinction made between homosexuality and "homosexual paedophilia"
You have zero credibilty. You keep portraying me as poor, unemployed, repressed... even when it's demonstrably false. But that's what you do. You can't debate but just project your own views and agendas and portray them and others as you would like them to be. You lie about yourself and about others. You're a weird and creepy guy.
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Sorry, I looked further into Dr. Dailey after I originally posted my reply. A problem some people have is they believe just because someone has a PhD. they should be believed because they must know what they are talking about regardless the subject. Nowhere could I find that he is trained in or qualified to speak on human sexuality other than to express his opinions which are not necessarily based on valid or factual findings. He has spoken and written his views on various aspects of homosexuality. Obviously, he is very interested in this subject....almost obsessively so.
No, we shouldn't believe someone highly educated. We should believe you instead who is obviously obsessively interested in the subject.
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You have zero credibilty. You keep portraying me as poor, unemployed, repressed... even when it's demonstrably false. But that's what you do. You can't debate but just project your own views and agendas and portray them and others as you would like them to be. You lie about yourself and about others. You're a weird and creepy guy.
lol pedoras!
you are a broke @ss chump. i remember around the times of the kigs debacle you saying you would love to take GH but you couldn't afford it. i saw your thread a few months ago about doing voluntary work, that you was learning for the first time in your life how to make things. after a life spent being a useless chump.
if you had gainful employment you wouldn't spend your days doing voluntary work.
i didn't say you were repressed, i asked the question, as i don't understand your angle...why as a poor ethnic fellow do you support hard right conservatism so vehemently? when they would view you as scum
or do you deny your ethnicity too? lol
everything i've posted on this board is true. i've posted pics of myself(showing physique) . what do you think i'm lying about?
i posted a vid inside my house a few months back in vince g thread. i've posted pics from outside when arguing with ND and others. i will always back my claims.
even in this thread, i've put forward a coherent argument backed up with a peer reviewed study from a medical journal....what have you offered? a bunch of what sounds like repressed homosexual mumbo jumbo backed up with rubbish from religious zealots.
you claim i'm anti semitic? highlight a single anti semitic post i have ever posted here....
you're a joke pelius and lying to yourself. you're a confirmed bum and a loser and a dishonest piece of sht to boot.
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I know it's hard for you to accept because you don't want to. You prefer to believe that gays and homosexuality is everywhere and on everyone's mind. Despite the fact that the Boy Scouts have been one of the most successful organizations in instilling character, values, and self reliance ever for boys transitioning to men now you want to claim they facilitated and protected child molestation.
You were never a Scout. I was from a preteen up until high school. Faggotry was a non issue. The subject of gays and homosexuality was just never even brought up or a factor or consideration with anything? Not everybody has gay sex on their mind or has it as the most defining issue in their lives?
Like the saying goes, one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
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lol pedoras!
you are a broke @ss chump. i remember around the times of the kigs debacle you saying you would love to take GH but you couldn't afford it. i saw your thread a few months ago about doing voluntary work, that you was learning for the first time in your life how to make things. after a life spent being a useless chump.
if you had gainful employment you wouldn't spend your days doing voluntary work.
i didn't say you were repressed, i asked the question, as i don't understand your angle...why as a poor ethnic fellow do you support hard right conservatism so vehemently? when they would view you as scum
or do you deny your ethnicity too? lol
everything i've posted on this board is true. i've posted pics of myself(showing physique) . what do you think i'm lying about?
i posted a vid inside my house a few months back in vince g thread. i've posted pics from outside when arguing with ND and others. i will always back my claims.
even in this thread, i've put forward a coherent argument backed up with a peer reviewed study from a medical journal....what have you offered? a bunch of what sounds like repressed homosexual mumbo jumbo backed up with rubbish from religious zealots.
you claim i'm anti semitic? highlight a single anti semitic post i have ever posted here....
you're a joke pelius and lying to yourself. you're a confirmed bum and a loser and a dishonest piece of sht to boot.
There's something particularly repugnant about you. Just listen to yourself. You are barely literate. You can barely spell, put together a coherent sentence, your grammar and puncuation makes you sound so uneducated, even your name calling has a sophomoric vibe that makes me think I'm talking to an 11 year old.
You have made no rational arguments. It's all "believe what I say or you are a... (some lame personal insult). You site one study that doesn't even come to a conclusion but a speculation, "The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male."
The study does not take into account the fact that gays are anywhere from 2-4% of the population so though hetros may be greater in pure numbers gays make up a disportional amount of pedophiles. Just like Whites may commit more violent crime in pure numbers than Blacks but that's because there are more Whites than Blacks. Blacks are over-represented in violent crime as a percent of the population. But why am I wasting my time trying to explain this? But the way you reason and how you write and communicate you are not an educated person.
And only unemployed people do volunteer work? What an utterly moronic statement. It would stand to reason that only those that have adequate income (and a good heart) would volunteer their time to help others. But this is just another example of the type of person you are and your mindset.
Any you lie about virtually everything. You lie about my life, which is odd since I've been open about my lifestyle and live in the most expensive State to live in the US where the average home now hovers near $800,000. You lie about being a Christian. You defend a gutter, backward, primitive religion that does nothing but makes everything they touch worse and is led by an avowed pedophile. You deny you are a racist and Anti-Semite yet your racism is on full display not only on this thread but on your latest post. You refer to the Israeli government as "the regime" which implies some kind of hostile occupation and don't recognize their right to exist.
There's a reason why you are one of the most despised members on this board.
And for God's sakes, or Allah's sake, use spell check and capitalize the appropriate letters in your next meltdown post. I'll give you a pass on grammar and rudimentary punctuation as that is just asking too much for someone at your level. You should be embarrassed by the way you write and communicate. So low-brow and ghetto. Typical of your kind.
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There's something particularly repugnant about you. Just listen to yourself. You are barely literate. You can barely spell, put together a coherent sentence, your grammar and puncuation makes you sound so uneducated, even your name calling has a sophomoric vibe that makes me think I'm talking to an 11 year old.
You have made no rational arguments. It's all "believe what I say or you are a... (some lame personal insult). You site one study that doesn't even come to a conclusion but a speculation, "The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male."
The study does not take into account the fact that gays are anywhere from 2-4% of the population so though hetros may be greater in pure numbers gays make up a disportional amount of pedophiles. Just like Whites may commit more violent crime in pure numbers than Blacks but that's because there are more Whites than Blacks. Blacks are over-represented in violent crime as a percent of the population. But why am I wasting my time trying to explain this? But the way you reason and how you write and communicate you are not an educated person.
And only unemployed people do volunteer work? What an utterly moronic statement. It would stand to reason that only those that have adequate income (and a good heart) would volunteer their time to help others. But this is just another example of the type of person you are and your mindset.
Any you lie about virtually everything. You lie about my life, which is odd since I've been open about my lifestyle and live in the most expensive State to live in the US where the average home now hovers near $800,000. You lie about being a Christian. You defend a gutter, backward, primitive religion that does nothing but makes everything they touch worse and is led by an avowed pedophile. You deny you are a racist and Anti-Semite yet your racism is on full display not only on this thread but on your latest post. You refer to the Israeli government as "the regime" which implies some kind of hostile occupation and don't recognize their right to exist.
There's a reason why you are one of the most despised members on this board.
And for God's sakes, or Allah's sake, use spell check and capitalize the appropriate letters in your next meltdown post. I'll give you a pass on grammar and rudimentary punctuation as that is just asking too much for someone at your level. You should be embarrassed by the way you write and communicate. So low-brow and ghetto. Typical of your kind.
You explained it perfectly. It's amazing how so many people are fooled by statistics without even looking deeper at the same statistic.
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There's something particularly repugnant about you. Just listen to yourself. You are barely literate. You can barely spell, put together a coherent sentence, your grammar and puncuation makes you sound so uneducated, even your name calling has a sophomoric vibe that makes me think I'm talking to an 11 year old.
You have made no rational arguments. It's all "believe what I say or you are a... (some lame personal insult). You site one study that doesn't even come to a conclusion but a speculation, "The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male."
The study does not take into account the fact that gays are anywhere from 2-4% of the population so though hetros may be greater in pure numbers gays make up a disportional amount of pedophiles. Just like Whites may commit more violent crime in pure numbers than Blacks but that's because there are more Whites than Blacks. Blacks are over-represented in violent crime as a percent of the population. But why am I wasting my time trying to explain this? But the way you reason and how you write and communicate you are not an educated person.
And only unemployed people do volunteer work? What an utterly moronic statement. It would stand to reason that only those that have adequate income (and a good heart) would volunteer their time to help others. But this is just another example of the type of person you are and your mindset.
Any you lie about virtually everything. You lie about my life, which is odd since I've been open about my lifestyle and live in the most expensive State to live in the US where the average home now hovers near $800,000. You lie about being a Christian. You defend a gutter, backward, primitive religion that does nothing but makes everything they touch worse and is led by an avowed pedophile. You deny you are a racist and Anti-Semite yet your racism is on full display not only on this thread but on your latest post. You refer to the Israeli government as "the regime" which implies some kind of hostile occupation and don't recognize their right to exist.
There's a reason why you are one of the most despised members on this board.
And for God's sakes, or Allah's sake, use spell check and capitalize the appropriate letters in your next meltdown post. I'll give you a pass on grammar and rudimentary punctuation as that is just asking too much for someone at your level. You should be embarrassed by the way you write and communicate. So low-brow and ghetto. Typical of your kind.
looks like a nerve or two has been touched!
as i said, i remember you from the kigs fiasco. you had to rely on getting thrown freebies from your lord and master, like some flea ridden stray dog. unless you've had some dramatic upturn in fortune since then, i think i'm safe in guessing that you're still a bum. regardless of the ave house price in your area. lol
how was i racist in this thread? i said you're an ethnic...which is pretty obvious from your pics...
you say that describing the israeli government as a "regime" is anti semitic? Ok... then.... ::)
anyway, i've deleted most of what i was going to post here. i've realised it would be no better than beating a sick animal. i'll leave you and your "massive" intellect to it. ;)
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looks like a nerve or two has been touched!
as i said, i remember you from the kigs fiasco. you had to rely on getting thrown freebies from your lord and master, like some flea ridden stray dog. unless you've had some dramatic upturn in fortune since then, i think i'm safe in guessing that you're still a bum. regardless of the ave house price in your area. lol
how was i racist in this thread? i said you're an ethnic...which is pretty obvious from your pics...
you say that describing the israeli government as a "regime" is anti semitic? Ok... then.... ::)
anyway, i've deleted most of what i was going to post here. i've realised it would be no better than beating a sick animal. i'll leave you and your "massive" intellect to it. ;)
Your meltdowns have devolved to going back years ago talking about kigs and making up a false narrative so you feel better about yourself.
The first letter in a sentence should be capitalized.
Get an education you moron. You're barely literate.
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Your meltdowns have devolved to going back years ago talking about kigs and making up a false narrative so you feel better about yourself.
The first letter in a sentence should be capitalized.
Get an education you moron. You're barely literate.
I think you understood what he was saying. Why make an issue about his not capitalizing a word, dotting and i or crossing a t?
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I think you understood what he was saying. Why make an issue about his not capitalizing a word, dotting and i or crossing a t?
Jesus Fucking Christ, Prime! See what I mean? See what I was saying about you having so much free time you have to comment on every goddamn post?
I'm busting his balls? Get it? Do you fucking get it?
Try to go one day without posting on Get Big and not thinking about gay sex. Come on. You can do it. Give it the ole college try. A little determinations goes a long way.
Ever think about joining a chess club? I belong to one. They meet at the Library every week but I go just once or twice a month. But you get to meet so many different and educated people from various backgrounds. You need to fucking get out more.
BTW, as is typical of Leftist, they always either ignore or defend the lowering of standards. This applies to all things. Nobody can fucking write anymore or construct a coherent sentence. "Your/You're, Much/Many, Who/Whom, Me/I. It's like a language. Young people can barely communicate verbally as well as write because they are glued to their cell phones. People often don't even think I was born and raise in Hawaii because I don't speak with that pidgin accent. My mother had a very heavy accent and trained us to speak correctly. Pidgen is like "ebonics" that they speak in the hood and try to act like it's a separate dialect. As kid my neighbor, who busted his ass in construction his whole life, use to tell me, "Brah, if you like git one good job you haf know how to talk like one Haole."
Our society is slowly eroding in all aspects because people like you allow it.
When I meet a young person with manners and a decent vocabulary it really stands out and I congratulate the parents. I know you think it's a losing battle but it's not. It just increases the class divide. People that come from good families that are educated, know how to write and speak -- even hold a fork FFS! Are going to be more successful and associate with similar folk and live much more satisfying lives in gated neighborhoods while the low lives will live in their ghetto neighborhoods wearing their filthy clothes, peeing on the sidewalk and swearing with every other word.
One of my brothers, a Colonel in the Army, married an upper-class girl from the South whose family we visited some years back. What an impressive group of people. Dignity and class all the way.
You may not care just like you passively accept changes that does not advance or culture, but again, another huge difference between you and me.
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Jesus Fucking Christ, Prime! See what I mean? See what I was saying about you having so much free time you have to comment on every goddamn post?
I'm busting his balls? Get it? Do you fucking get it?
Try to go one day without posting on Get Big and not thinking about gay sex. Come on. You can do it. Give it the ole college try. A little determinations goes a long way.
Ever think about joining a chess club? I belong to one. They meet at the Library every week but I go just once or twice a month. But you get to meet so many different and educated people from various backgrounds. You need to fucking get out more.
LOL.
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Jesus Fucking Christ, Prime! See what I mean? See what I was saying about you having so much free time you have to comment on every goddamn post?
I'm busting his balls? Get it? Do you fucking get it?
Try to go one day without posting on Get Big and not thinking about gay sex. Come on. You can do it. Give it the ole college try. A little determinations goes a long way.
Ever think about joining a chess club? I belong to one. They meet at the Library every week but I go just once or twice a month. But you get to meet so many different and educated people from various backgrounds. You need to fucking get out more.
BTW, as is typical of Leftist, they always either ignore or defend the lowering of standards. This applies to all things. Nobody can fucking write anymore or construct a coherent sentence. "Your/You're, Much/Many, Who/Whom, Me/I. It's like a language. Young people can barely communicate verbally as well as write because they are glued to their cell phones. People often don't even think I was born and raise in Hawaii because I don't speak with that pidgin accent. My mother had a very heavy accent and trained us to speak correctly. Pidgen is like "ebonics" that they speak in the hood and try to act like it's a separate dialect. As kid my neighbor, who busted his ass in construction his whole life, use to tell me, "Brah, if you like git one good job you haf know how to talk like one Haole."
Our society is slowly eroding in all aspects because people like you allow it.
When I meet a young person with manners and a decent vocabulary it really stands out and I congratulate the parents. I know you think it's a losing battle but it's not. It just increases the class divide. People that come from good families that are educated, know how to write and speak -- even hold a fork FFS! Are going to be more successful and associate with similar folk and live much more satisfying lives in gated neighborhoods while the low lives will live in their ghetto neighborhoods wearing their filthy clothes, peeing on the sidewalk and swearing with every other word.
One of my brothers, a Colonel in the Army, married an upper-class girl from the South whose family we visited some years back. What an impressive group of people. Dignity and class all the way.
You may not care just like you passively accept changes that does not advance or culture, but again, another huge difference between you and me.
Bullshit, you are checkers material.
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Bullshit, you are checkers material.
LOL! Outed! Not to mention tic tac toe.
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You have zero credibilty. You keep portraying me as poor, unemployed, repressed... even when it's demonstrably false. But that's what you do. You can't debate but just project your own views and agendas and portray them and others as you would like them to be. You lie about yourself and about others. You're a weird and creepy guy.
Plonker is 100% PAKI , Christian my a____
After BREXIT he will be deported back to dust of Islamabad ;D
PAKI knows nothing about life on Hawaiian Island & South Seas .........
If thrown into Kilauea, mother Pele would not accept his stinking body ...............
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I think you understood what he was saying. Why make an issue about his not capitalizing a word, dotting and i or crossing a t?
don't worry about pelius he's full of delusions of grandeur. the fact is i stopped going to school at 14 and was in prison by 18, so yeh my grammar/punctuation etc may not be perfect , but who gives a sht this a BB board.
but... if he is the great academic he tries to portray himself as and i am i so"low brow" and "ghetto" ...why is he(a man entering his twilight years) the one that has to go out working for free in a factory just to give his life a bit purpose. doesn't own sht other than the shirt on his back and has to join chess clubs to meet people...
he can talk up his intelligence and talk down mine as much he likes. but the proof is in the pudding. where he is in life and where i am tells the true story about our respective levels of intelligence.
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don't worry about pelius he's full of delusions of grandeur. the fact is i stopped going to school at 14 and was in prison by 18, so yeh my grammar/punctuation etc may not be perfect , but who gives a sht this a BB board.
but... if he is the great academic he tries to portray himself as and i am i so"low brow" and "ghetto" ...why is he(a man entering his twilight years) the one that has to go out working for free in a factory just to give his life a bit purpose. doesn't own sht other than the shirt on his back and has to join chess clubs to meet people...
he can talk up his intelligence and talk down mine as much he likes. but the proof is in the pudding. where he is in life and where i am tells the true story about our respective levels of intelligence.
So now doing charity work helping others less fortunate than myself is working in a factory to give my life meaning.
Joining a club both for the activity and meeting different people is somehow a negative.
The pictures I've posted has shown me wearing different shirts and it's a meaningless statement.
But that's all you have.
And with all sincerity, and a straight face, you claim that everything you have said on this board is true.
You definitely sound like someone with at most an 8th grade education and an ex con. Both tell the true story of your level of intelligence and moral character.
And you probably wonder why nobody likes you here. You're just a contemptible human being.
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So now doing charity work helping others less fortunate than myself is working in a factory to give my life meaning.
Joining a club both for the activity and meeting different people is somehow a negative.
The pictures I've posted has shown me wearing different shirts and it's a meaningless statement.
But that's all you have.
And with all sincerity, and a straight face, you claim that everything you have said on this board is true.
You definitely sound like someone with at most an 8th grade education and an ex con. Both tell the true story of your level of intelligence and moral character.
And you probably wonder why nobody likes you here. You're just a contemptible human being.
dude, i don't give a sht who does or doesn't like me in real life, let alone on a message board! difference is i have friends and family around me irl
something i very much doubt you have, from your posts here.
nothing wrong with joining clubs to meet people if you're lonely, usually i'd applaud anyone for doing so. but you're such a conceited w@nker i'd rather taunt you about it. lol
the pics you showed was working in some kind of factory learning to "make fings" unpaid....that was for charity? sure
everything i've ever said about myself here is fact and i've backed most of it with pics etc. i can and will back anything i claim. and i know i am right in guessing your life hasn't amounted to sht and you own fk all but your clothes. something you won't deny or confirm because you know i've hit the nail on the head.
yep 8th grade education and an ex con. still achieved far more in less years than you ever have or ever will if you live to be 200.
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dude, i don't give a sht who does or doesn't like me in real life, let alone on a message board! difference is i have friends and family around me irl
something i very much doubt you have, from your posts here.
nothing wrong with joining clubs to meet people if you're lonely, usually i'd applaud anyone for doing so. but you're such a conceited w@nker i'd rather taunt you about it. lol
the pics you showed was working in some kind of factory learning to "make fings" unpaid....that was for charity? sure
everything i've ever said about myself here is fact and i've backed most of it with pics etc. i can and will back anything i claim. and i know i am right in guessing your life hasn't amounted to sht and you own fk all but your clothes. something you won't deny or confirm because you know i've hit the nail on the head.
yep 8th grade education and an ex con. still achieved far more in less years than you ever have or ever will if you live to be 200.
Once again, your 8th grade education and like of moral character shines through. I have posted many pics of my home, family and friends. One recently in a thread you are on.
I've posted pics of where I work as a part-time job as I am retired and that obviously has nothing to do with the charity work I do that has already been thoroughly addressed. But again your limited intellect cannot discern these very obvious facts. Facts obvious to everyone except you.
And, again you lie. You lie about everything. You care very, very much what others think about you. Always having to defend yourself. You care very, very much what I think about you that's why you respond to every post I make.
What it must be like having to go through life like you. So lacking in intelligence and any degree of self-reflection. So unaware of the cacophony of illogic and dearth of rational thought. In short, you are so dumb that you are too dumb to realize how dumb you are.
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Jesus Fucking Christ, Prime! See what I mean? See what I was saying about you having so much free time you have to comment on every goddamn post?
I'm busting his balls? Get it? Do you fucking get it?
Try to go one day without posting on Get Big and not thinking about gay sex. Come on. You can do it. Give it the ole college try. A little determinations goes a long way.
Ever think about joining a chess club? I belong to one. They meet at the Library every week but I go just once or twice a month. But you get to meet so many different and educated people from various backgrounds. You need to fucking get out more.
BTW, as is typical of Leftist, they always either ignore or defend the lowering of standards. This applies to all things. Nobody can fucking write anymore or construct a coherent sentence. "Your/You're, Much/Many, Who/Whom, Me/I. It's like a language. Young people can barely communicate verbally as well as write because they are glued to their cell phones. People often don't even think I was born and raise in Hawaii because I don't speak with that pidgin accent. My mother had a very heavy accent and trained us to speak correctly. Pidgen is like "ebonics" that they speak in the hood and try to act like it's a separate dialect. As kid my neighbor, who busted his ass in construction his whole life, use to tell me, "Brah, if you like git one good job you haf know how to talk like one Haole."
Our society is slowly eroding in all aspects because people like you allow it.
When I meet a young person with manners and a decent vocabulary it really stands out and I congratulate the parents. I know you think it's a losing battle but it's not. It just increases the class divide. People that come from good families that are educated, know how to write and speak -- even hold a fork FFS! Are going to be more successful and associate with similar folk and live much more satisfying lives in gated neighborhoods while the low lives will live in their ghetto neighborhoods wearing their filthy clothes, peeing on the sidewalk and swearing with every other word.
One of my brothers, a Colonel in the Army, married an upper-class girl from the South whose family we visited some years back. What an impressive group of people. Dignity and class all the way.
You may not care just like you passively accept changes that does not advance or culture, but again, another huge difference between you and me.
Thanks for the advice.
Pick your battles. It shocked my family and me when a friend spat cherry seeds on to his plate at the dinner table. The look on my mom's face was priceless. After he left we shared our disbelief and had a chuckle at John's expense. This happened more than 30 years ago. I've never mentioned it to John. He is a good person and a good friend with questionable manners.
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Once again, your 8th grade education and like of moral character shines through. I have posted many pics of my home, family and friends. One recently in a thread you are on.
I've posted pics of where I work as a part-time job as I am retired and that obviously has nothing to do with the charity work I do that has already been thoroughly addressed. But again your limited intellect cannot discern these very obvious facts. Facts obvious to everyone except you.
And, again you lie. You lie about everything. You care very, very much what others think about you. Always having to defend yourself. You care very, very much what I think about you that's why you respond to every post I make.
What it must be like having to go through life like you. So lacking in intelligence and any degree of self-reflection. So unaware of the cacophony of illogic and dearth of rational thought. In short, you are so dumb that you are too dumb to realize how dumb you are.
you can try to be as condescending as you like. it's not going to change the fact that i have you pegged. you're a lonely old fk that has achieved fk all and you have fk all to show for your life.
you seem to forget that i had contact with you at the time of the kigs scam. i sent you results of serum tests to pass on to your scamming lord and master...i remember you saying you couldn't afford GH and were relying on freebies....
you can lie as much you want but you're really only lying to yourself at the end of the day.
come on then...you tell me what i'm lying about?
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don't worry about pelius he's full of delusions of grandeur. the fact is i stopped going to school at 14 and was in prison by 18, so yeh my grammar/punctuation etc may not be perfect , but who gives a sht this a BB board.
but... if he is the great academic he tries to portray himself as and i am i so"low brow" and "ghetto" ...why is he(a man entering his twilight years) the one that has to go out working for free in a factory just to give his life a bit purpose. doesn't own sht other than the shirt on his back and has to join chess clubs to meet people...
he can talk up his intelligence and talk down mine as much he likes. but the proof is in the pudding. where he is in life and where i am tells the true story about our respective levels of intelligence.
My step-dad was a great guy. He was intelligent, He was a self-made successful businessman. He had wisdom. His formal education ended in the 8th grade. His quest for knowledge never ended. You remind me of him.
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My step-dad was a great guy. He was intelligent, He was a self-made successful businessman. He had wisdom. His formal education ended in the 8th grade. His quest for knowledge never ended. You remind me of him.
cheers pm. i take that as very a nice compliment.
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you can try to be as condescending as you like. it's not going to change the fact that i have you pegged. you're a lonely old fk that has achieved fk all and you have fk all to show for your life.
you seem to forget that i had contact with you at the time of the kigs scam. i sent you results of serum tests to pass on to your scamming lord and master...i remember you saying you couldn't afford GH and were relying on freebies....
you can lie as much you want but you're really only lying to yourself at the end of the day.
come on then...you tell me what i'm lying about?
I have all the PMs from 2012, the year of the kigs scandal. There was only one person that I was in contact with regarding Kig serum test and unless you changed your name, it wasn't conker.
Another lie.
And, yes, I cannot justify spending thousands of dollars for pharm grade gh just like I can't justify spending $20 for a hamburger. Most people can't justify spending thousands of dollars for pharm grade gh. So what. I, and most others, would rather spend their money on something else.
Jeeze man, just stop. You are sounding dumber and dumber all the time. I point out the lies you tell about me with pictures to prove it. And your reply, "Tell me where I lied."
God, it's like my IQ is dropping a few points every time I have to communicate with you. It's almost painful having to read an adult write as you do.
Quit school at 14 and jailed at 18. You act like you are proud of that. Like it gives you street cred. It just means you were a born loser.
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I have all the PMs from 2012, the year of the kigs scandal. There was only one person that I was in contact with regarding Kig serum test and unless you changed your name, it wasn't conker.
Another lie.
And, yes, I cannot justify spending thousands of dollars for pharm grade gh just like I can't justify spending $20 for a hamburger. Most people can't justify spending thousands of dollars for pharm grade gh. So what. I, and most others, would rather spend their money on something else.
Jeeze man, just stop. You are sounding dumber and dumber all the time. I point out the lies you tell about me with pictures to prove it. And your reply, "Tell me where I lied."
God, it's like my IQ is dropping a few points every time I have to communicate with you. It's almost painful having to read an adult write as you do.
Quit school at 14 and jailed at 18. You act like you are proud of that. Like it gives you street cred. It just means you were a born loser.
it wasn't via pm here it was via email. i emailed you serum tests showing kigs were bunk and your scammer boss tried to claim i was a shill .... and i was banned from your crappy cult's site...ring any bells?
i'm pretty certain you knew it was me anyway. as i vaguely remember talking about it when i was pretty new here, and i remember when i first posted a pic here you said something along the lines of "fair enough i thought you were going to be some fat middle aged dude"
and you wasn't talking about pharm grade GH you was talking about wanting to do the kigs your lord and master was raving about but you couldn't afford it.
how do i act like i'm proud about leaving school early and being in prison by 18? that's probably the first time i've mentioned it in 6 years or whatever being on the board.
i just wanted to highlight the fact that even given my start i've achieved far more in life than someone that seems to think they have some great academic mind(YOU) ...
"I point out the lies you tell about me with pictures to prove it"
all i can see from the pics i've seen of you is that you've done some work in a factory, you're a very skinny dude that's never been able to build any muscle, and you live in what looks like a wooden house (if that's where you live in the pic)
serious question pelius...do you even own your own house?
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it wasn't via pm here it was via email. i emailed you serum tests showing kigs were bunk and your scammer boss tried to claim i was a shill .... and i was banned from your crappy cult's site...ring any bells?
i'm pretty certain you knew it was me anyway. as i vaguely remember talking about it when i was pretty new here, and i remember when i first posted a pic here you said something along the lines of "fair enough i thought you were going to be some fat middle aged dude"
and you wasn't talking about pharm grade GH you was talking about wanting to do the kigs your lord and master was raving about but you couldn't afford it.
how do i act like i'm proud about leaving school early and being in prison by 18? that's probably the first time i've mentioned it in 6 years or whatever being on the board.
i just wanted to highlight the fact that even given my start i've achieved far more in life than someone that seems to think they have some great academic mind(YOU) ...
"I point out the lies you tell about me with pictures to prove it"
all i can see from the pics i've seen of you is that you've done some work in a factory, you're a very skinny dude that's never been able to build any muscle, and you live in what looks like a wooden house (if that's where you live in the pic)
serious question pelius...do you even own your own house?
LOL. I'm making your meltdowns sound more and more frustrated. Your insecurities are getting more and more glaring. You are so desperate to be admired and respected but I'm making you revert more and more to your childhood where you couldn't even finish elementary school and how deep down you know you are just an uneducated dunce. I remember trying to debate you regarding Israel and Palestine and how ignorant you were regarding history and current events not making an even passable argument to mask your racism. And then you revert to the most common apology for a racist, "I have a lot of Jewish friends." LOL! What an idiot!
Just look at your meaningless and desperate insults which highlight your insecurities and desperate attempt to convince yourself you are better than others: I only own one shirt. I work in a factory. I'm unemployed because I do volunteer work. My house is made of wood. I don't have big muscles... oh my, I'm just crushed. You have no idea what a simpleton you sound like. It's like I'm talking to someone with an 8th-grade education -- wait...
I think it's time you take another lavish vacation in Bulgaria on the Black Sea and mingle with the European elites -- lol. After all, you're a very successful business owner.
Those recycled tin cans and plastic bottles really add up.
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it wasn't via pm here it was via email. i emailed you serum tests showing kigs were bunk and your scammer boss tried to claim i was a shill .... and i was banned from your crappy cult's site...ring any bells?
i'm pretty certain you knew it was me anyway. as i vaguely remember talking about it when i was pretty new here, and i remember when i first posted a pic here you said something along the lines of "fair enough i thought you were going to be some fat middle aged dude"
and you wasn't talking about pharm grade GH you was talking about wanting to do the kigs your lord and master was raving about but you couldn't afford it.
how do i act like i'm proud about leaving school early and being in prison by 18? that's probably the first time i've mentioned it in 6 years or whatever being on the board.
i just wanted to highlight the fact that even given my start i've achieved far more in life than someone that seems to think they have some great academic mind(YOU) ...
"I point out the lies you tell about me with pictures to prove it"
all i can see from the pics i've seen of you is that you've done some work in a factory, you're a very skinny dude that's never been able to build any muscle, and you live in what looks like a wooden house (if that's where you live in the pic)
serious question pelius...do you even own your own house?
so you're an uneducated ' afro-caribbean ' immigrant who has committed crimes , has a criminal record and has spent time in jail , what a surprise ! ! !
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LOL. I'm making your meltdowns sound more and more frustrated. Your insecurities are getting more and more glaring. You are so desperate to be admired and respected but I'm making you revert more and more to your childhood where you couldn't even finish elementary school and how deep down you know you are just an uneducated dunce. I remember trying to debate you regarding Israel and Palestine and how ignorant you were regarding history and current events not making an even passable argument to mask your racism. And then you revert to the most common apology for a racist, "I have a lot of Jewish friends." LOL! What an idiot!
Just look at your meaningless and desperate insults which highlight your insecurities and desperate attempt to convince yourself you are better than others: I only own one shirt. I work in a factory. I'm unemployed because I do volunteer work. My house is made of wood. I don't have big muscles... oh my, I'm just crushed. You have no idea what a simpleton you sound like. It's like I'm talking to someone with an 8th-grade education -- wait...
I think it's time you take another lavish vacation in Bulgaria on the Black Sea and mingle with the European elites -- lol. After all, you're a very successful business owner.
Those recycled tin cans and plastic bottles really add up.
bulgaria is great! very good value, cheap european summer holiday. stay away from sunny beach it's trashy and low rent (a few decent restaurants here though still). nessebar is very nice though. some decent beaches if you look around, not hawaii standard by any stretch, but for a short flight and good value it's great.
re the israel/palestine discussion, it was clear you had little idea what you were talking about and were just trying to be a good little american and tow the conservative line. which seems to be consistent with most of what you post when you stray into talking about world affairs.
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bulgaria is great! very good value, cheap european summer holiday. stay away from sunny beach it's trashy and low rent (a few decent restaurants here though still). nessebar is very nice though. some decent beaches if you look around, not hawaii standard by any stretch, but for a short flight and good value it's great.
re the israel/palestine discussion, it was clear you had little idea what you were talking about and were just trying to be a good little american and tow the conservative line. which seems to be consistent with most of what you post when you stray into talking about world affairs.
so you expect a people who have been persecuted and massacred in their millions for 2500 years to hand over their only chance to protect themselves and their families to terrorists who wish to exterminate them. . ? ::)
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Just mention, Tommy Robinson & Plonker capitulate ;)
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bulgaria is great! very good value, cheap european summer holiday. stay away from sunny beach it's trashy and low rent (a few decent restaurants here though still). nessebar is very nice though. some decent beaches if you look around, not hawaii standard by any stretch, but for a short flight and good value it's great.
re the israel/palestine discussion, it was clear you had little idea what you were talking about and were just trying to be a good little american and tow the conservative line. which seems to be consistent with most of what you post when you stray into talking about world affairs.
I stated undisputed, historical, easily verifiable facts about Israel. The UN, the peace deals, the wars -- all on record and all oblivious to you.
And what is all this talk about "good value", "cheap holiday"? Aren't you portraying yourself as a rags to riches success and turn your nose on me, not rich, always looking for a good deal and not pissing my money away on things like hgh, pharm or ug?
I would think a playa like you would be hobnobbing in Ibiza or Croatia.
You are a congenital liar. You are a low life Paki with no family, single, and at most, a supervisor at a chicken plant with the rest of your low life Pakis.
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I stated undisputed, historical, easily verifiable facts about Israel. The UN, the peace deals, the wars -- all on record and all oblivious to you.
And what is all this talk about "good value", "cheap holiday"? Aren't you portraying yourself as a rags to riches success and turn your nose on me, not rich, always looking for a good deal and not pissing my money away on things like hgh, pharm or ug?
I would think a playa like you would be hobnobbing in Ibiza or Croatia.
You are a congenital liar. You are a low life Paki with no family, single, and at most, a supervisor at a chicken plant with the rest of your low life Pakis.
israel has more UN condemnations than any other nation on the planet. so what exactly did you "state" about the UN?
i'm not rich and have never said i was. i'm probably rich compared to you but i doubt that's very difficult and even if i was rich i would still always be looking for value on any money i spend.
hobnobbing in croatia? it's hardly a playground of the rich...i think you probably mean places like monaco or marbella.
you keep calling me a liar but it's patently obvious you are the dishonest one and in denial about so many things in your life.
i said i think you're a broke @ss and asked if you own your own home...you avoid the question
i have no pakistani heritage whatsoever i am caribbean/english ...something i've always been open about.
it's obvious from your pics you're either aboriginal or asian or a mixture(?)....but your ethnicity is obviously something else you're in denial about.
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israel has more UN condemnations than any other nation on the planet. so what exactly did you "state" about the UN?
i'm not rich and have never said i was. i'm probably rich compared to you but i doubt that's very difficult and even if i was rich i would still always be looking for value on any money i spend.
hobnobbing in croatia? it's hardly a playground of the rich...i think you probably mean places like monaco or marbella.
you keep calling me a liar but it's patently obvious you are the dishonest one and in denial about so many things in your life.
i said i think you're a broke @ss and asked if you own your own home...you avoid the question
i have no pakistani heritage whatsoever i am caribbean/english ...something i've always been open about.
it's obvious from your pics you're either aboriginal or asian or a mixture(?)....but your ethnicity is obviously something else you're in denial about.
Holy mother f-ing shiite! An inbred, boy-humping, Paki trying to bust on my ethnicity?
Really Conker? Really?
Now that Allah hasn't granted your prayers regarding Tommy Robinson what now?
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i will literally laugh my @ss if he's found guilty and receives a longer sentence than his original sentence, ...
oh tommy tommy tommy ;D
Who's laughing now?
Now tell me again how I am in denial about my race?
LOL? Really Conker? Really?
I'm sure your daddy and his sister were really in love. True love Paki style.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=648337.0;attach=765631;image)
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Holy mother f-ing shiite! An inbred, boy-humping, Paki trying to bust on my ethnicity?
Really Conker? Really?
Now that Allah hasn't granted your prayers regarding Tommy Robinson what now?
Who's laughing now?
Now tell me again how I am in denial about my race?
LOL? Really Conker? Really?
I'm sure your daddy and his sister were really in love. True love Paki style.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=648337.0;attach=765631;image)
;D
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pellius now melting harder than an ice pop in the sahara. frantically scrawling through my old posts! lmfao
what IS you ethnicity ?
do you own your home?
these questions still remain firmly avoided :D
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pellius now melting harder than an ice pop in the sahara. frantically scrawling through my old posts! lmfao
what IS you ethnicity ?
do you own your home?
these questions still remain firmly avoided :D
Why do you Defend Muslims?
And Hate on Tommy Robinson?
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pellius now melting harder than an ice pop in the sahara. frantically scrawling through my old posts! lmfao
what IS you ethnicity ?
do you own your home?
these questions still remain firmly avoided :D
Didn't you know that owning or even renting a home in Hawaii isn't a necessity? Occasional shelter from a storm is all you need. For that you can stay at a friend's place or just hang at the gym for awhile.
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serious question pelius...do you even own your own house?
No, he lives with his niece.
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Didn't you know that owning or even renting a home in Hawaii isn't a necessity? Occasional shelter from a storm is all you need. For that you can stay at a friend's place or just hang at the gym for awhile.
Shut up boomer, go guzzle down another bottle from trader joe's.
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i'm not rich and have never said i was. i'm probably rich compared to you but i doubt that's very difficult and even if i was rich i would still always be looking for value on any money i spend.
hobnobbing in croatia? it's hardly a playground of the rich...i think you probably mean places like monaco or marbella.
Really, ONLY British lover class , out of shape pakis & chubby sheilas holidays in Bulgaria/Black sea..........
U know shit about Croatia , what in Bulgaria can match Hvar island & clubs (10* place), which Black sea town can match Pula/Split/Dubrovnik !!!.
Monaco :o WOW & WOW, have U been there lately !!!. Romantic image from 1960's , actually very small & what is there: old casino !?.
Cote d'Azure & Liguria (Italian Riviera) is now infested with Afros/Pakis , no more images of St.Tropez topless/g-string ladies like before 2o16.
Stazione Centrale in Milano now looks like a intergalactic scenes from 'Star Wars' , beautiful Ventigmilia now "homes" hundreds of Pakis desperate to cross
into France.
Every Euro summer from 2000-2016 I was backpacking those beautiful places , now infested by stinking muslim rats.
& again U know shit about Bordighera ,Portofino, Nice or Dalmatia.
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pellius now melting harder than an ice pop in the sahara. frantically scrawling through my old posts! lmfao
what IS you ethnicity ?
do you own your home?
these questions still remain firmly avoided :D
Oh-la-la PAKI from dust of Islamabad to blab's about Hawaiian life style ::)
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Why do you Defend Muslims?
And Hate on Tommy Robinson?
He is Paki who will get deported in 95 day's (BREXIT) ;D ;D ;D
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Didn't you know that owning or even renting a home in Hawaii isn't a necessity? Occasional shelter from a storm is all you need. For that you can stay at a friend's place or just hang at the gym for awhile.
well i'm pelius has a gym membership so he should be fine :D