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https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/14/lashana-lynch-will-introduced-bond-25-audiences-new-007-10287976/
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wtf ???
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Studios must love throwing cash away.
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She should wear the wig she had in Captain marvel :D
James Bond fans will know that the spy retired at the end of Spectre and as Bond 25 opens he will be living a life of luxury in Jamaica.
However soon we will return to MI6 in London and the insider reveals that ‘there is a pivotal scene at the start of the film where M says “come in 007”, and in walks Lashana who is black, beautiful and a woman’.
Looking swelte!
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The money was in the bank for Elba to be the next Bond, and he didn't want it.
TER-MAN-HATER LGBT 1000:Social Judgement Day, AND NOW THIS...
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Ruin everything in the name of tolerance and equality!
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wait he was already in a bond movie ???
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Why even use actors when you can...
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This is just so bizarre lol.
Hopefully she's lesbian, because I don't want to see any bond boys
What about lesbian bond toys?
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The new James Bond is a black vegan raised by a single transgender parent
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This is just stupid. It wouldn't be as bad if she was attractive
Why not just do a 007 spin off movie with her instead.
Her being a lesbian might be the only thing to save the movie
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Why didn’t they use Leslie Jones?
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Studios must love throwing cash away.
Actually thinking more about it I'm not so sure it's stupid on their part. It's a calculated move.
I mean they probably know who their new target audience are..
Whites are going less and less to the cinema and other ethnicities are growing in numbers. Do the math.
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Black Panther box office 1.35billion USD
Thor Ragnarok box office 0.85billion USD
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captain marvel even did well I think, despite it being shitted on my most online woke white people.
this'll also get beyonce and co promoting it and buying tickets for their peoplez, like they did with black panther
Captain Marvel underperformed vs projections. Box offices are down because of the feminist SJW crap they are pushing. Won't watch. Thank goodness for Sly and Rambo V.
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However huge a bomb it is, they’ll rig the numbers in conjunction with rigging the media reviews and proclaim it a massive blockbuster of epic proportions. Then spend their ad budget buying out empty theatres to create sold out buzz. See Captain Marvel.
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This is just stupid..
I hope it bombs financially..
Bond should be a male..
Not this crap...
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Actually thinking more about it I'm not so sure it's stupid on their part. It's a calculated move.
I mean they probably know who their new target audience are..
Whites are going less and less to the cinema and other ethnicities are growing in numbers. Do the math.
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Black Panther box office 1.35billion USD
Thor Ragnarok box office 0.85billion USD
They're pandering and cuckolds will flock to see it in order to show how accepting and tolerant they are. :-X
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Tired of this liberal disease. I will not watch.
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I saw this story earlier and knew you numbnuts would be melting down. :D
Just from what's been released, we know she has the traditional Bond code name while Bond is retired. Almost 100% guaranteed the story will revolve around Daniel Craig's character and Bond will have the 007 code name back by the end of the movie. But, it's been at least 48 hours since the last sjw agenda meltdown on here, so carry on I guess...
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/14/lashana-lynch-will-introduced-bond-25-audiences-new-007-10287976/
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Gross bull dyke.
Disaster in the making.
Pathetic.
Bond is dead.
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wtf!!!!
speechless, those libral lefty motherfucckers really trying to ruin everything
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Actually thinking more about it I'm not so sure it's stupid on their part. It's a calculated move.
I mean they probably know who their new target audience are..
Whites are going less and less to the cinema and other ethnicities are growing in numbers. Do the math.
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Black Panther box office 1.35billion USD
Thor Ragnarok box office 0.85billion USD
100% correct. Whites aren’t going for two reasons. They’re sick of being fed the “agenda” and their numbers are falling. Brown is the new white.
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I wouldn't have minded if it went to Idris Elba or another black actor, but not a woman. This will flop hard, and only be remembered in sociology classes, where the film makers will be lauded for giving it to a female of color, and the audience demonized for not showing up.
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That dude looks like a dead ringer for that trans-dude track athlete Castor Semen
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/14/lashana-lynch-will-introduced-bond-25-audiences-new-007-10287976/
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Is that Magic Johnson's son/daughter/thing/creature ?
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If they were going to cast a black woman, she should have at least been good looking.
Like every James Bond/007 character is supposed to be.
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I'm guessing the next James Bond will be a white man so they threw this in just to inject some level of "wokeness" into the franchise. Still embarrassing though. At least make it a black man.
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I'll just stick to watching the re-runs.
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Pretty sure that's a dude. But then, who knows.
Like a black dude at my gym said a couple weeks ago: "I don't date black women. Ever. Black women look just like black men." hahahahaaaaaa
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As I agree that some things you cant simply touch ......
The Bond character is running out of Gas , Daniel Craig has been trying to move on for few years now ( and he has been one of the most popular James Bond's in history)
Just like characters such as Rambo , Comando ,Terminator grew old and are not longer appealing to this generation , James Bonds is dying a sad death for us nostalgic older fans .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEE
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As I agree that some things you cant simply touch ......
The Bond character is running out of Gas , Daniel Craig has been trying to move on for few years now ( and he has been one of the most popular James Bond's in history)
Just like characters such as Rambo , Comando ,Terminator grew old and are not longer appealing to this generation , James Bonds is dying a sad death for us nostalgic older fans .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEE
Current society thinks these movies (Rambo, Commando, Terminator, Sean Connery-Bond etc) have too much toxic masculinity and needs to put women in lead roles these days instead.
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I'm guessing the next James Bond will be a white man so they threw this in just to inject some level of "wokeness" into the franchise. Still embarrassing though. At least make it a black man.
Why does it have to be a black guy? Do you want a white Shaft?
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Why does it have to be a black guy? Do you want a white Shaft?
I meant in this role of 007. Bond himself should always be played by a white man.
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damn magic johnson's fat fagggot son lost some weight
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I love to see representation like this in the movies. It will help right wing alt-right terrorists understand that not every black man is a rapist, illegal, or criminal, as they love to so vehemently judge.
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He should wear a dress in the movie to represent his Transgender hair style
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I love to see representation like this in the movies. It will help right wing alt-right terrorists understand that not every black man is a rapist, illegal, or criminal, as they love to so vehemently judge.
Except that's supposed to be a woman ???
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Is this a joke? Am I asleep and having a nightmare?
I really don't have a huge beef with a BRITISH black GUY playing the role, but "diversity" for the sheer said thereof is inherently racist and sexist.
Fleming wrote Bond as a white dude. Why deviate from that?
Here's an idea: I am going to remake that Yaya Sisterhood flick, but it will have John Cena, the Rock, and a bunch of other big dudes in the top billing. No girls save for supporting roles.
What's the difference between that and this black woman Bond?
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She's not going to be the new Bond.
She is introduced as the new 007 agent since Bond (Daniel Craig) retires.
It's just a plot line as Bond (Daniel Craig) first retires then comes back in the movie.
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She's not going to be the new Bond.
She is introduced as the new 007 agent since Bond (Daniel Craig) retires.
It's just a plot line as Bond (Daniel Craig) first retires then comes back in the movie.
THAT I could handle. Hell, I might even sign off on that if true.
Then again, Hollywood rarely seeks my council :/
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Double 0 dindu.
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THAT I could handle. Hell, I might even sign off on that if true.
Then again, Hollywood rarely seeks my council :/
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It's almost like people are overreacting to a non-story. ???
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they could just hire Jackie Chan and made millions. Instead they want to hype this using race
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No matter the character, just so fruity that they need a black, female, lesbian lead.
Keep trying hard libtards... ::)
Hollyweird. ???
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Hollywood is a pedophile, disgusting libtard shithole!!!!! This will crash and burn as did the female Ghostbusters!! If the truth really got out about the Epstein island there would be nobody left in Hollywood!!!!!!!!!!
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whats the problem
there's been plenty of cool female action stars in the past
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I love to see representation like this in the movies. It will help right wing alt-right terrorists understand that not every black man is a rapist, illegal, or criminal, as they love to so vehemently judge.
if you look at weinstein, epstein, woody, etc, etc, etc, you would see the jews are the real degenerates in hollyweird. and they call themselves the chosen people.
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if you look at weinstein, epstein, woody, etc, etc, etc, you would see the jews are the real degenerates in hollyweird. and they call themselves the chosen people.
whatabout the other 10 000 that isnt
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what is wrong with Daniel Craig? He quit?
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he's got too much money
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What would be pretty hilarious is if they had this women play a male black James Bond. She could be a relatively handsome male, no homo.
I'd go watch it just for the sheer audacity of them doing something like that.
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whats the problem
there's been plenty of cool female action stars in the past
The problem is that she's butt ugly and instead of making a new movie and an original character they decided to take 007 and shit all over it.
If you want to focus of race gender and "representation" in film................MAKE UP YOUR OWN FUCKING CHARACTERS!
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The problem is that she's butt ugly and instead of making a new movie and an original character they decided to take 007 and shit all over it.
If you want to focus of race gender and "representation" in film................MAKE UP YOUR OWN FUCKING CHARACTERS!
Exactly!
And these are the same people who will constantly bitch about 'cultural appropriation' and 'white-washing'.
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The problem is that she's butt ugly and instead of making a new movie and an original character they decided to take 007 and shit all over it.
If you want to focus of race gender and "representation" in film................MAKE UP YOUR OWN FUCKING CHARACTERS!
maybe theyre just going with the times and making bond more modern.
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maybe theyre just going with the times and making bond more modern.
How is that making Bond 'more modern'?
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How is that making Bond 'more modern'?
by putting a black woman as bond it reflects the modern united kingdom ethnically and womens advancement in the workplace
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The problem is that she's butt ugly and instead of making a new movie and an original character they decided to take 007 and shit all over it.
If you want to focus of race gender and "representation" in film................MAKE UP YOUR OWN FUCKING CHARACTERS!
??? The people making this film own the rights to the characters and the movie. If you want to complain about "representation" and race and gender in film franchises, maybe you should just buy the rights to the franchises to keep the owners from doing what they want with them.
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at least kwon approves.
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i hope oprah winfrey gets to play miss moneypenny
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and jackie chan as q
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by putting a black woman as bond it reflects the modern united kingdom ethnically and womens advancement in the workplace
3 percent of the UK population? ???
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3 percent of the UK population? ???
they shouldve made her pakistani
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they shouldve made her pakistani
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Except that's supposed to be a woman ???
huh?
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I love to see representation like this in the movies. It will help right wing alt-right terrorists understand that not every black man is a rapist, illegal, or criminal, as they love to so vehemently judge.
Danish mental sickness detected again ::)
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I feel kinda trolled. Should have read the article.
She will be playing 007 after James Bond has retired, so she isn't the new bond. This is basically a spin off so fair doos.
If it's a flop they'll probably start again and we'll get a new Bond.
Good luck to them.
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huh?
That is a black woman, not a man.
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by putting a black woman as bond it reflects the modern united kingdom ethnically and womens advancement in the workplace
she's not bond, daniel craig is bond. she's just got his "badge number," are you able to read?
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she's not bond, daniel craig is bond. she's just got his "badge number," are you able to read?
she's bond to me dammit
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Just cracked me one off
If anyone could look at that tranny thing and get crackin', it was karl kox
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Just cracked me one off
If anyone could look at that tranny thing and get crackin', it was karl kox
You take what you can get when you're a fat, bald, gap toothed, 4 eyed black man.
Case in point a famous getbigger, who is actually a heterosexual man despite evidence to the contrary
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I feel kinda trolled. Should have read the article.
She will be playing 007 after James Bond has retired, so she isn't the new bond. This is basically a spin off so fair doos.
If it's a flop they'll probably start again and we'll get a new Bond.
Good luck to them.
It's almost like a bunch of idiots overreacting to a non-story. ???
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It's almost like a bunch of idiots overreacting to a non-story. ???
Serious question. Why can't blacks come up with their own interesting characters?
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Serious question. Why can't blacks come up with their own interesting characters?
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???
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that's actually a really good vampire movie
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Serious question. Why can't blacks come up with their own interesting characters?
There are plenty of great black characters created by blacks.
However, creating a character and being a working actor/actress aren't the same things. Likewise, creating a character isn't the same thing as getting funding for a project, much less a blockbuster budget. Even with a character like the Black Widow, who was white, a pre-existing character, part of a successful franchise and played by someone who is considered a star, it took more than a decade to get that solo movie rolling. Why do you think that is?
But considering that the character in this Bond movie isn't a pre-existing character, is the question you're really asking why don't these blacks just stay in their place? I know some of y'all were trying to act brand new like that wasn't what y'all meant in that Halle Berry thread. Is this another franchise you're planning on boycotting? ::)
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There are plenty of great black characters created by blacks.
However, creating a character and being a working actor/actress aren't the same things. Likewise, creating a character isn't the same thing as getting funding for a project, much less a blockbuster budget. Even with a character like the Black Widow, who was white, a pre-existing character, part of a successful franchise and played by someone who is considered a star, it took more than a decade to get that solo movie rolling. Why do you think that is?
But considering that the character in this Bond movie isn't a pre-existing character, is the question you're really asking why don't these blacks just stay in their place? I know some of y'all were trying to act brand new like that wasn't what y'all meant in that Halle Berry thread. Is this another franchise you're planning on boycotting? ::)
Go to any black country and look at who is playing on their TV screens in their local shows and movies. Chances are you won't find many white people in most of them. So now what is the goal to have black people in movies in Africa, Europe, USA, basically everywhere? Is that the goal. How is that diverse? Whites are a precious minority in the world. There needs to be more white people for the sake of diversity.
A world with only black or chinese people is boring, dumb and ugly.
Jews need to stop their anti white bs. It is going to blow up in their faces guaranteed.
Hope that helps.
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if it were not for jews we would have bollywood instead of hollywood
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if it were not for jews we would have bollywood instead of hollywood
How can she slap?! ;D
https://www.eonline.com/news/1056708/lashana-lynch-makes-history-with-007-role-for-bond-25
"There's been a lot of talk about whether or not [the Bond franchise] is relevant now because of who he is and the way he treats women," she told the outlet back in May. "I think that's bollocks. I think he's absolutely relevant now. It has just got to grow. It has just got to evolve, and the important thing is that the film treats the women properly. He doesn't have to. He needs to be true to this character."
Lol really?? Has the writer not seen all the female sluts in porn online? Getting gang banged, pissed on, shit on etc.?? They act like women are ladies today? This writer should go after porn instead. Bond making a joke about a cute female is fucking tame compared to male pornstars asking a female to open her mouth wide so they can piss in it and use her as a urinal. Fucking hilarious!
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Go to any black country and look at who is playing on their TV screens in their local shows and movies. Chances are you won't find many white people in most of them. So now what is the goal to have black people in movies in Africa, Europe, USA, basically everywhere? Is that the goal. How is that diverse? Whites are a precious minority in the world. There needs to be more white people for the sake of diversity.
A world with only black or chinese people is boring, dumb and ugly.
Jews need to stop their anti white bs. It is going to blow up in their faces guaranteed.
Hope that helps.
Truly idiotic post. Who gives a shit what's on tv in predominately black countries? America and the UK are countries with high black, brown and asian populations. Of course the goal is for actors who live in those countries to be able to work in those countries. ::)
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Truly idiotic post. Who gives a shit what's on tv in predominately black countries? America and the UK are countries with high black, brown and asian populations. Of course the goal is for actors who live in those countries to be able to work in those countries. ::)
Omg you are too stupid to understand. The point is your people are a pestilence and there should not be many nonwhites in America, UK etc.
If nonwhites were intelligent and less inclined to violence my opinion would be different. But as I see it now it is a real shame that there is such a large low iq nonwhite population on the precious planet. Why for example is a potentially idyllic island like Haiti soured by the abominations that reside there? A Tsar Bomba nuke will wipe out the pests on Haiti so they can start over. I think it would be a nuke well used.
Nonwhites can stay in their own hell holes and no aid should be given so their numbers are culled naturally by nature.
We can have a few token blacks - that should be ok so long as they behave.
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Omg you are too stupid to understand. The point is your people are a pestilence and there should not be many nonwhites in America, UK etc.
If nonwhites were intelligent and less inclined to violence my opinion would be different. But as I see it now it is a real shame that there is such a large low iq nonwhite population on the precious planet. Why for example is a potentially idyllic island like Haiti soured by the abominations that reside there? A Tsar Bomba nuke will wipe out the pests on Haiti so they can start over. I think it would be a nuke well used.
Nonwhites can stay in their own hell holes and no aid should be given so their numbers are culled naturally by nature.
We can have a few token blacks - that should be ok so long as they behave.
You're right. I am too stupid to understand when a stupid point that makes no sense is supposed to be a completely different argument. But good luck with the rest of that post. I'm sure it's going to happen soon enough.
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at least kwon approves.
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Definitely, Parker Approved!
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Doing a ripoff of Dracula isn't the same as coming up with you own character. Hope that helps.
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There are plenty of great black characters created by blacks.
Such as?
I know there are popular black characters out there...but with an example like Madea, the root of the character is simply that they are black. Madea is just an amalgamation of crazy black aunts and grandmothers. not really an original concept, just a representation.
What popular, well established, black created, original black characters am I forgetting about? It's a serious question. Maybe I'm just not remembering them.
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Such as?
I know there are popular black characters out there...but with an example like Madea, the root of the character is simply that they are black. Madea is just an amalgamation of crazy black aunts and grandmothers. not really an original concept, just a representation.
What popular, well established, black created, original black characters am I forgetting about? It's a serious question. Maybe I'm just not remembering them.
Do you have a clue WTF you are talking about sometimes?
Agent J
Axel Foley
Django
Ghostface
Jules Winfield
Morpheus
Shaft
By Hollywood standards, these characters (there are a few others) would be considered original just like Bond. Jesus some of you fucking dudes on here!
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Do you have a clue WTF you are talking about sometimes?
Agent J
Axel Foley
Django
Ghostface
Jules Winfield
Morpheus
Shaft
By Hollywood standards, these characters (there are a few others) would be considered original just like Bond. Jesus some of you fucking dudes on here!
I don't know all of these characters but I think the ones I do know like Jules, Shaft, and Morpheus were performed by blacks but they were created and written by white people.
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...and the original Django was white.............but I'm the one who doesn't have a clue what I'm talking about.
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if it were not for jews we would have bollywood instead of hollywood
Racist comment reported !.
Enemy (India) of ours enemy (Paki land) is GetBiggers friend !.
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Here's the guy that created the character John Shaft.
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Earnest Tidyman
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Axel Foley is a character written and created by Daniel Petrie Jr and Danilo Bach who are not black.......and the person that was originally intended to be cast in the role was Sylvester Stalone.
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G_Thang is really bad at this.
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Truly idiotic post. Who gives a shit what's on tv in predominately black countries? America and the UK are countries with high black, brown and asian populations. Of course the goal is for actors who live in those countries to be able to work in those countries. ::)
UK black population is 3 %
UK white British (excluding Europeans) is 82 %
USA black population is 12 %
USA white population is 72 %
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Such as?
I know there are popular black characters out there...but with an example like Madea, the root of the character is simply that they are black. Madea is just an amalgamation of crazy black aunts and grandmothers. not really an original concept, just a representation.
What popular, well established, black created, original black characters am I forgetting about? It's a serious question. Maybe I'm just not remembering them.
How is Madea not an example of a black role? Because you've seen elements of it before in other works or real life? As if that isn't true of 99% of all characters in all art? Literally every superhero, sitcom, action hero, romantic comedy, fantasy film, cartoon, the topic of this thread, etc but somehow when it comes to black characters, it doesn't count if it's not an original concept?
When it comes to black characters created by black creators, just off the top of my head- you got Ghost and Kanan from Power, one of the highest rated shows on cable, created by a black woman. Martin's character from his sitcom, one of the greatest sitcom characters of all time. Cosby's character from his sitcom, one of the most influential sitcoms of all time. You got Aaron McGruder, creator of the Boondocks one of the best comic strips and best adult cartoons of all time. (Which reminds me of Black Dynamite, which is one of my favorite movies and favorite adult cartoons). You got the guy who created Elmo, who was been the most profitable character from sesame street for two decades.
I'm sure somehow these don't count as characters for whatever made up new reason. Tv doesn't count? Comedy doesn't count? You specifically meant a black version of James Bond? ::)
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Cant wait to see a mexican john wick. ::)
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Cant wait to see a mexican john wick. ::)
Juan Wick?
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How is Madea not an example of a black role? Because you've seen elements of it before in other works or real life? As if that isn't true of 99% of all characters in all art? Literally every superhero, sitcom, action hero, romantic comedy, fantasy film, cartoon, the topic of this thread, etc but somehow when it comes to black characters, it doesn't count if it's not an original concept?
When it comes to black characters created by black creators, just off the top of my head- you got Ghost and Kanan from Power, one of the highest rated shows on cable, created by a black woman. Martin's character from his sitcom, one of the greatest sitcom characters of all time. Cosby's character from his sitcom, one of the most influential sitcoms of all time. You got Aaron McGruder, creator of the Boondocks one of the best comic strips and best adult cartoons of all time. (Which reminds me of Black Dynamite, which is one of my favorite movies and favorite adult cartoons). You got the guy who created Elmo, who was been the most profitable character from sesame street for two decades.
I'm sure somehow these don't count as characters for whatever made up new reason. Tv doesn't count? Comedy doesn't count? You specifically meant a black version of James Bond? ::)
Madea's whole gimmick is that she's black. That's what the character is. Fat black woman who says "Oh Lawd" and shit like that.
Martin is just a funny black guy. A representation of a black man from his generation. He doesn't do anything but be black. They aren't going to be making Martin movies 30 years from now with some young actor taking over the role.
Bill Cosby's character was just a representation of an affluent black family. Fat Albert would have been a better example from Cosby. That's something that could live on after Cosby passes away but won't now because of all the drugging and raping.
Boondocks is funny and has popular characters so I'd count that....but if you really look at it, again it's just a representation of black people doing and saying black people stuff. If you took race out of that show, what's left? Nothing.
A black dude was the puppeteer for Elmo but be didn't create sesame street. Grover and Cookie Monster and all that shit was created by someone else. He came in later and piggybacked off of it...and he had to resign because of multiple accusations of sex with minors.
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So what have we learned?
(1)Most black characters are centered around their race. They don't do much of anything except be black.
(2)Famous black men do a lot of raping.
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Cant wait to see a mexican john wick. ::)
At least we got a Mexican Terminator called T-Juan1000 in the upcoming Termie-film!
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Black people look like monkeys.
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Black people look like monkeys.
The funny part about that is that the Chinese think whites look like monkeys.
Many whites in China are often randomly handed bananas by the Chinese.
Truth is, as a group every race is racist. Whites being at the top of the food chain are generally the only ones getting called out on it though.
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The funny part about that is that the Chinese think whites look like monkeys.
Many whites in China are often randomly handed bananas by the Chinese.
Truth is, as a group every race is racist. Whites being at the top of the food chain are generally the only ones getting called out on it though.
If I could be another animal I’d choose to be a gorilla.
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The funny part about that is that the Chinese think whites look like monkeys.
Many whites in China are often randomly handed bananas by the Chinese.
Truth is, as a group every race is racist. Whites being at the top of the food chain are generally the only ones getting called out on it though.
And who Really cares about a silly word like Racist ::)
As you stated Truth is we’re all inherently racist so it’s a useless label
To try and bash someone with.
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Madea's whole gimmick is that she's black. That's what the character is. Fat black woman who says "Oh Lawd" and shit like that.
Martin is just a funny black guy. A representation of a black man from his generation. He doesn't do anything but be black. They aren't going to be making Martin movies 30 years from now with some young actor taking over the role.
Bill Cosby's character was just a representation of an affluent black family. Fat Albert would have been a better example from Cosby. That's something that could live on after Cosby passes away but won't now because of all the drugging and raping.
Boondocks is funny and has popular characters so I'd count that....but if you really look at it, again it's just a representation of black people doing and saying black people stuff. If you took race out of that show, what's left? Nothing.
A black dude was the puppeteer for Elmo but be didn't create sesame street. Grover and Cookie Monster and all that shit was created by someone else. He came in later and piggybacked off of it...and he had to resign because of multiple accusations of sex with minors.
So, just like I predicted, a bunch of made up new reasons why black characters "don't count". We've learned that there are no popular black characters because if they are too black for you, they don't count. ::) People dress up as Martin episodes for Halloween every year, but no one will remember him in the future. The guy who invented Elmo just piggybacked off of the success of the show, even though the character he created is far and away the most popular and profitable. And also, sex scandals are actually true as long as they involve black people and they also retroactively erase black people's work... which doesn't even count anyway, if it was too black or not black enough. ::)
That about covers it, right? ::) So, yeah, when you create such narrow parameters that literally nothing can be included, you would be right that there are no popular black character created by blacks. You can be right about almost anything when you play by these nonsense rules.
eta Just out of curiosity, do these same rules apply to other races? For instance, a lot of people consider Seinfeld to be an iconic show with iconic characters, but that show was filled with Jewish stereotypes. And it advertised itself as a show about nothing. Would you say that most of the characters on that show wouldn't be considered iconic because they were too Jewish?
What about regular old white characters? does the same thing apply to them?
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And who Really cares about a silly word like Racist ::)
As you stated Truth is we’re all inherently racist so it’s a useless label
To try and bash someone with.
So, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over a black chick being in a James Bond movies?
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So, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over a black chick being in a James Bond movies?
Not that I’m a bond film expert, only I’m sure I’ve seen Black women in Bond films so what’s the issue.
If They’re lining a Black Woman up as Jane Bond the lead Character Then That’s Just
Fucking Stupid.
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The funny part about that is that the Chinese think whites look like monkeys.
Many whites in China are often randomly handed bananas by the Chinese.
Truth is, as a group every race is racist. Whites being at the top of the food chain are generally the only ones getting called out on it though.
Except most white people don't care what they think, as they don't have an inferiority complex.
China has been repeatedly invaded, occupied and defeated by foreign nations so they have some issues.
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Except most white people don't care what they think, as they don't have an inferiority complex.
China has been repeatedly invaded, occupied and defeated by foreign nations so they have some issues.
Yes they have some issues
Slanty Fooking eyes & Yellow skin just to start with
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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The funny part about that is that the Chinese think whites look like monkeys.
Many whites in China are often randomly handed bananas by the Chinese.
Truth is, as a group every race is racist. Whites being at the top of the food chain are generally the only ones getting called out on it though.
lol not true
Chinese beauty ideals are towards european white.
The rich females operate on their eyes, noses even jaw reconstruction to look more european.
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lol not true
Chinese beauty ideals are towards european white.
The rich females operate on their eyes, noses even jaw reconstruction to look more european.
Can you Blame Them.
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So, just like I predicted, a bunch of made up new reasons why black characters "don't count". We've learned that there are no popular black characters because if they are too black for you, they don't count. ::) People dress up as Martin episodes for Halloween every year, but no one will remember him in the future. The guy who invented Elmo just piggybacked off of the success of the show, even though the character he created is far and away the most popular and profitable. And also, sex scandals are actually true as long as they involve black people and they also retroactively erase black people's work... which doesn't even count anyway, if it was too black or not black enough. ::)
That about covers it, right? ::) So, yeah, when you create such narrow parameters that literally nothing can be included, you would be right that there are no popular black character created by blacks. You can be right about almost anything when you play by these nonsense rules.
eta Just out of curiosity, do these same rules apply to other races? For instance, a lot of people consider Seinfeld to be an iconic show with iconic characters, but that show was filled with Jewish stereotypes. And it advertised itself as a show about nothing. Would you say that most of the characters on that show wouldn't be considered iconic because they were too Jewish?
What about regular old white characters? does the same thing apply to them?
It's not that they don't count. I think my larger point is that many of the popular, established, black characters are largely centered around the fact that they are black. If you took race out of the equation, the characters would cease to be. Also, it is extremely unlikely that they would live on in different incarnations after the original person stopped doing the character or passed away. It doesn't mean that they aren't entertaining or beloved characters. They are just more narrow.
For comparison I'll talk about Batman. Batman isn't just a wealthy white person from Gotham. He is a wealthy person whose parents were murdered by a street thug when he was a child. As a reaction to his grief he trained himself to fight, dressed up like a bat and became a vigilant. There is more to him, than what he looks like, where he's from, how he talks, etc. I'm not saying you should, but you could make Batman any race. A Chinese Batman is still essentially the same character. Batman will live on for hundreds of years, maybe more, because it is centered around man's fear of loss and his desire to exert control over his circumstances. It has depth.
I just think black people should stop taking over old white characters and start creating their own interesting characters outside of simple racial stereotypes........and yes Seinfeld is a racial stereotype. There will be no Mexican Seinfeld reboot 20 years from now. Seinfeld is about eccentric New York Jews....period.
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lol not true
Chinese beauty ideals are towards european white.
The rich females operate on their eyes, noses even jaw reconstruction to look more european.
So just like white women who tan their skin and black women who straighten their hair...
In fairness it happens mainly in backwater parts of China.
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It's not that they don't count. I think my larger point is that many of the popular, established, black characters are largely centered around the fact that they are black. If you took race out of the equation, the characters would cease to be. Also, it is extremely unlikely that they would live on in different incarnations after the original person stopped doing the character or passed away. It doesn't mean that they aren't entertaining or beloved characters. They are just more narrow.
For comparison I'll talk about Batman. Batman isn't just a wealthy white person from Gotham. He is a wealthy person whose parents were murdered by a street thug when he was a child. As a reaction to his grief he trained himself to fight, dressed up like a bat and became a vigilant. There is more to him, than what he looks like, where he's from, how he talks, etc. I'm not saying you should, but you could make Batman any race. A Chinese Batman is still essentially the same character. Batman will live on for hundreds of years, maybe more, because it is centered around man's fear of loss and his desire to exert control over his circumstances. It has depth.
I just think black people should stop taking over old white characters and start creating their own interesting characters outside of simple racial stereotypes........and yes Seinfeld is a racial stereotype. There will be no Mexican Seinfeld reboot 20 years from now. Seinfeld is about eccentric New York Jews....period.
When I engage in these racial debates on here, I never expect to just hear a flat out "ur right", but when the arguments start barely clinging to logic, I feel like that's close enough.
You're not describing a character. You're describing a backstory. It seems like you're attempting to narrow down the idea of what a character is specifically to a superhero franchise. It's a hamfisted way to get around admitting that you're original assertion was wrong, but it also precludes most other characters in film and television, regardless of race. Then Tony Soprano's not a great character. Peter Griffin's not a great character.Ray Barrone isn't a great character. Which would be bullshit, because they all are. So was the Seinfeld cast. Having specific ethnic or geographical characteristics doesn't make that less so.
And no, most popular black characters don't just boil down to being black. The Martin show had 5 leads, all black, all different. They dealt with situations from a black perspective, but they were all fleshed out characters who had more qualities than their race. The fact that all 5 of the leads were so different proves that.
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Black people look like monkeys.
The funny part about that is that the Chinese think whites look like monkeys.
Many whites in China are often randomly handed bananas by the Chinese.
Truth is, as a group every race is racist. Whites being at the top of the food chain are generally the only ones getting called out on it though.
I bet that just pucked with your psyche. And you thought you were the pinnacle of attractiveness, right, douche?
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I bet that just pucked with your psyche. And you thought you were the pinnacle of attractiveness, right, douche?
You are correct. My psyche did get a good phucking.
I'm just glad I had your mum sucking on my balls to comfort me.
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When I engage in these racial debates on here, I never expect to just hear a flat out "ur right", but when the arguments start barely clinging to logic, I feel like that's close enough.
You're not describing a character. You're describing a backstory. It seems like you're attempting to narrow down the idea of what a character is specifically to a superhero franchise. It's a hamfisted way to get around admitting that you're original assertion was wrong, but it also precludes most other characters in film and television, regardless of race. Then Tony Soprano's not a great character. Peter Griffin's not a great character.Ray Barrone isn't a great character. Which would be bullshit, because they all are. So was the Seinfeld cast. Having specific ethnic or geographical characteristics doesn't make that less so.
And no, most popular black characters don't just boil down to being black. The Martin show had 5 leads, all black, all different. They dealt with situations from a black perspective, but they were all fleshed out characters who had more qualities than their race. The fact that all 5 of the leads were so different proves that.
I guess I'm thinking mainly about franchise characters that keep getting sequels and reboots and not so much television. Maybe that's where the disconnect is between you and me on this issue. The reason I'm looking at it from that narrow view is because the white characters that are being turned black. Probably even more often they are being changed from white male to some type of female. That's what's triggering me to even think about this. In doing so it occurred to me that a lot of black characters are very much centered around their race and you really couldn't change the race of that character without completely changing their nature. My thoughts on this issue might not be complete or 100% fair but I do think I'm pretty accurate. I mean, I'm giving you stuff like Batman, and James Bond.....or maybe Luke Skywalker. You are giving me forgettable characters from a shitty 90's sitcom. lol. Where is the good stuff?
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I'm trying to be fair to you here but after reading your most recent post a second time I think you are just too dumb to follow what I'm saying. :D
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I love to see representation like this in the movies. It will help right wing alt-right terrorists understand that not every black man is a rapist, illegal, or criminal, as they love to so vehemently judge.
You miss the point. It's disrespectful to the actor/actress in question as they're considered more for their gender/ethnicity (two virtue-signaling factors they cannot control) and then, their ability to act. Also, today I learned that if you don't like pandering to contrived diversity in film and politically correct culture, you're a "right-wing alt-right terrorist"... Nice to know.
For the record, I know plenty of great black people who are offended by the trivial tokenism we see today in the media. Get your head out of your arse.
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I guess I'm thinking mainly about franchise characters that keep getting sequels and reboots and not so much television. Maybe that's where the disconnect is between you and me on this issue. The reason I'm looking at it from that narrow view is because the white characters that are being turned black. Probably even more often they are being changed from white male to some type of female. That's what's triggering me to even think about this. In doing so it occurred to me that a lot of black characters are very much centered around their race and you really couldn't change the race of that character without completely changing their nature. My thoughts on this issue might not be complete or 100% fair but I do think I'm pretty accurate. I mean, I'm giving you stuff like Batman, and James Bond.....or maybe Luke Skywalker. You are giving me forgettable characters from a shitty 90's sitcom. lol. Where is the good stuff?
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I'm trying to be fair to you here but after reading your most recent post a second time I think you are just too dumb to follow what I'm saying. :D
Yeah. I'm so dumb I can't even finish a newspaper article before whining for 5 pages about something that's not happening.
Meanwhile, you asked the question and I responded. I actually responded initially with an explanation and examples of why creating franchise characters was prohibitively difficult for minorities, and instead of following that line of convo, you asked me for any examples of black creations. In the follow up post, I gave you examples and instead of saying you were talking exclusively about franchise characters, you came up with a laundry list of reasons why those black creations didn't count as black creations. I addressed that, and sarcastically said that soon enough you'd be claiming comedy doesn't count or only a black version of James Bond counts. Instead of saying that's what you were talking about in the first place (which you weren't), you went back to your argument that those examples don't count as creations, and that no character counts if it has any racially specific element (which is insane.) But despite all that, you actually meant what I sarcastically asked you all along? Which just goes to show, you're just making up new excuses with each post.
If you were asking "why haven't blacks created a black version of James Bond or Batman" you could have veered into that at any point, but you chose not to. Besides, anyone with even a casual understanding of how the entertainment industry has worked for the last 50 years shouldn't even have to ask.
And no, I didn't give you examples of shitty forgettable 90s sitcoms. I gave you examples megasuccessful properties that spanned time. The Cosby Show was the highest rated show at its peak. Elmo has been far and away most popular and profitable character on that show for decades. The Boondocks is a multimedia franchise. Power is the most popular show on Starz and has driven that channel's growth for the last 5 years. There is an endless list of black writers, producers, creators,etc I could've referenced, but these properties fit the discussion well because they were popular and impactful. I could've talked about someone like Shonda Rhimes, but chose not to as her most popular show (which has been running for like 15 seasons) features a white actress in the lead.
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Yeah. I'm so dumb I can't even finish a newspaper article before whining for 5 pages about something that's not happening.
Meanwhile, you asked the question and I responded. I actually responded initially with an explanation and examples of why creating franchise characters was prohibitively difficult for minorities, and instead of following that line of convo, you asked me for any examples of black creations. In the follow up post, I gave you examples and instead of saying you were talking exclusively about franchise characters, you came up with a laundry list of reasons why those black creations didn't count as black creations. I addressed that, and sarcastically said that soon enough you'd be claiming comedy doesn't count or only a black version of James Bond counts. Instead of saying that's what you were talking about in the first place (which you weren't), you went back to your argument that those examples don't count as creations, and that no character counts if it has any racially specific element (which is insane.) But despite all that, you actually meant what I sarcastically asked you all along? Which just goes to show, you're just making up new excuses with each post.
If you were asking "why haven't blacks created a black version of James Bond or Batman" you could have veered into that at any point, but you chose not to. Besides, anyone with even a casual understanding of how the entertainment industry has worked for the last 50 years shouldn't even have to ask.
And no, I didn't give you examples of shitty forgettable 90s sitcoms. I gave you examples megasuccessful properties that spanned time. The Cosby Show was the highest rated show at its peak. Elmo has been far and away most popular and profitable character on that show for decades. The Boondocks is a multimedia franchise. Power is the most popular show on Starz and has driven that channel's growth for the last 5 years. There is an endless list of black writers, producers, creators,etc I could've referenced, but these properties fit the discussion well because they were popular and impactful. I could've talked about someone like Shonda Rhimes, but chose not to as her most popular show (which has been running for like 15 seasons) features a white actress in the lead.
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When you think you're being clever, but just proving you have poor reading comprehension skills... :-\
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Al, I freely admit that my thought aren't completely fleshed out on this topic. I just wish you would admit that that most of the few black created characters out there are very much centered around being black.
I don't think that I'm being unfair to say that.
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I'm asking for the best black created characters and you're giving me Elmo for fucksakes. ;D
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I'm asking for the best black created characters and you're giving me Elmo for fucksakes. ;D
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and even with elmo that wasn't the creator , only the puppet guy . . .
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"We look at recent movies such as Wonder Woman and Mad Max, Furie Road, which use symbolic devices to replace masculine types with feminine characters."
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I'm asking for the best black created characters and you're giving me Elmo for fucksakes. ;D
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Now it's the best black created characters? A few pages ago there weren't any all. Every character's not gonna be Batman. A few decades ago, even most of the characters you named wouldn't have been taken seriously. I gave you a wide variety, you came up with a million reasons why you don't consider them to be such. Some of those reasons directly contradicting each other. I'm glad you admit your thoughts aren't really fleshed out on the subject and I'm satisfied that you'll just keep moving goalposts the more this conversation goes on, so until there's a worthwhile development, it's safe for me to bow out for now. Point was made*.
(*and please take the easy setup I gave you with that last line. It may be the only good line you post in this thread.)
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It's pathetic liberal/Hollywood pandering pure and simple.
Apparently, she is going to be so-and-so agent (insert name) and get the MI-6 ID Number 007.
Bond retires and she takes his spot.
But it is still pandering.
Woman, black, probably dyke.
Why not just go full Omar Muslim? ::)
I don't know if she already has it, then Bond comes out of retirement, or this is how the new movie ends.
If this is how it ends, well, then it is all over.
It's the same bullshit with Idris Elba.
Why not just create a new Double 0 agent? Make him 005 or 008... or 001?
You think fans would complain? A new, cool Double 00 character someone could create from scratch?
James Bond fans would be happy to be getting two such movies for every one.
Why does a black guy have to be James Bond?
Why does he have to be Captain America?
Why does Thor have to be a girl?
This is the bullshit. And is what Pray_4_War is trying to say.
You would think blacks who think of themselves as talented, would be very pissed at stuff like this, but...
You would think blacks who think of themselves as creative writers would jump at the chance to create interesting black characters in all types of genres, but...
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Now it's the best black created characters? A few pages ago there weren't any all. Every character's not gonna be Batman. A few decades ago, even most of the characters you named wouldn't have been taken seriously. I gave you a wide variety, you came up with a million reasons why you don't consider them to be such. Some of those reasons directly contradicting each other. I'm glad you admit your thoughts aren't really fleshed out on the subject and I'm satisfied that you'll just keep moving goalposts the more this conversation goes on, so until there's a worthwhile development, it's safe for me to bow out for now. Point was made*.
(*and please take the easy setup I gave you with that last line. It may be the only good line you post in this thread.)
It wasn't my intent to "move the goalposts" although I can see why you might interpret it that way. My comments in this thread started out very general and as the conversation evolved I got a little more specific. Sometimes things can come out a little unclear because we are discussing things on a forum and not writing essays. Also, sometimes topics can get conflated or ideas might need clarification. Regardless, I don't think that changes the inherent truth in what I've been saying in this thread.
*I still believe there are very few good and interesting characters that were created by blacks. You've had plenty of opportunities to give us some good ones and your list is still pretty flimsy.
*I still believe that the few black characters that exist are very much centered around their blackness.
*I still believe there isn't many black characters equivalent to a James Bond that Hollywood could change to white.
*I still believe that blacks should create their own new characters instead of taking over established white characters.
*I still believe you are a moron.
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It wasn't my intent to "move the goalposts" although I can see why you might interpret it that way. My comments in this thread started out very general and as the conversation evolved I got a little more specific. Sometimes things can come out a little unclear because we are discussing things on a forum and not writing essays. Also, sometimes topics can get conflated or ideas might need clarification. Regardless, I don't think that changes the inherent truth in what I've been saying in this thread.
*I still believe there are very few good and interesting characters that were created by blacks. You've had plenty of opportunities to give us some good ones and your list is still pretty flimsy.
*I still believe that the few black characters that exist are very much centered around their blackness.
*I still believe there isn't many black characters equivalent to a James Bond that Hollywood could change to white.
*I still believe that blacks should create their own new characters instead of taking over established white characters.
*I still believe you are a moron.
Ha Ha Ha
All Good Answers
Why do Blacks have to want or need to play the characters that were created
For whites - Invent a write Black characters simple solution Really.
I Mean Really James Bond as A Black Man !! FFS
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Ha Ha Ha
All Good Answers
Why do Blacks have to want or need to play the characters that were created
For whites - Invent a write Black characters simple solution Really.
I Mean Really James Bond as A Black Man !! FFS
It's mainly Hollywood driving this whole race swapping thing but I think that black actors should not allow themselves to be tokenized. Say no.
Do you remember this abomination?
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It's mainly Hollywood driving this whole race swapping thing but I think that black actors should not allow themselves to be tokenized. Say no.
Do you remember this abomination?
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True it’s mainly Hollyweird and their Bizarre agenda.
Yeah remember it being advertised & Didn’t watch it.
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It's pathetic liberal/Hollywood pandering pure and simple.
Apparently, she is going to be so-and-so agent (insert name) and get the MI-6 ID Number 007.
Bond retires and she takes his spot.
But it is still pandering.
Woman, black, probably dyke.
Why not just go full Omar Muslim? ::)
I don't know if she already has it, then Bond comes out of retirement, or this is how the new movie ends.
If this is how it ends, well, then it is all over.
It's the same bullshit with Idris Elba.
Why not just create a new Double 0 agent? Make him 005 or 008... or 001?
You think fans would complain? A new, cool Double 00 character someone could create from scratch?
James Bond fans would be happy to be getting two such movies for every one.
Why does a black guy have to be James Bond?
Why does he have to be Captain America?
Why does Thor have to be a girl?
This is the bullshit. And is what Pray_4_War is trying to say.
You would think blacks who think of themselves as talented, would be very pissed at stuff like this, but...
You would think blacks who think of themselves as creative writers would jump at the chance to create interesting black characters in all types of genres, but...
It's Hollywood's version of Affirmative Action.
Instead of creating something new, they just replace a white person with a black one.
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It's mainly Hollywood driving this whole race swapping thing but I think that black actors should not allow themselves to be tokenized. Say no.
Do you remember this abomination?
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This movie completely pre-dates the current climate, it fits more with Wayan's White Chicks and Downey Jr's black face. There was no push or agenda after the movie but nice try. It fits more in teh spoof category.
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This movie completely pre-dates the current climate, it fits more with Wayan's White Chicks and Downey Jr's black face. There was no push or agenda after the movie but nice try. It fits more in teh spoof category.
When did the Agenda-push in media begin then?
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This movie completely pre-dates the current climate, it fits more with Wayan's White Chicks and Downey Jr's black face. There was no push or agenda after the movie but nice try. It fits more in teh spoof category.
Oh you're back? I see you are content to pretend I didn't shit all over you before. Are you mad that even Shaft was created by a white person? lol.
Don't worry, Al Doggity has your back. He dropped this epic black character on me.
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When did the Agenda-push in media begin then?
I have no clue of the date and time. Stranger Things is based on 80s films like Pretty in Pink and 16 Candles with a horror twist. Show me a kid in those movies who was twisting like f a g when he walked. TER-MAN-HATER is the gender-fluid push. Before the Black Gleason or whatever, there were whites playing the Jeffersons and Sanford and Son.
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Oh you're back? I see you are content to pretend I didn't shit all over you before. Are you mad that even Shaft was created by a white person? lol.
Don't worry, Al Doggity has your back. He dropped this epic black character on me.
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Hey. You know Elmo is pure street. 8)
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Joo Phaggots
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007 character belongs to the 20th century !.
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You would think blacks who think of themselves as talented, would be very pissed at stuff like this, but...
You would think blacks who think of themselves as creative writers would jump at the chance to create interesting black characters in all types of genres, but...
Ha Ha Ha
All Good Answers
Why do Blacks have to want or need to play the characters that were created
For whites - Invent a write Black characters simple solution Really.
I Mean Really James Bond as A Black Man !! FFS
Interesting posts. Let me ask this incredible brain trust something.
This is a link to the top films of 2018. Do you notice anything interesting about the top 20 films?
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2018
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It wasn't my intent to "move the goalposts" although I can see why you might interpret it that way. My comments in this thread started out very general and as the conversation evolved I got a little more specific. Sometimes things can come out a little unclear because we are discussing things on a forum and not writing essays. Also, sometimes topics can get conflated or ideas might need clarification. Regardless, I don't think that changes the inherent truth in what I've been saying in this thread.
*I still believe there are very few good and interesting characters that were created by blacks. You've had plenty of opportunities to give us some good ones and your list is still pretty flimsy.
*I still believe that the few black characters that exist are very much centered around their blackness.
*I still believe there isn't many black characters equivalent to a James Bond that Hollywood could change to white.
*I still believe that blacks should create their own new characters instead of taking over established white characters.
*I still believe you are a moron.
It's not even about evolving conversation, it's about the fact that you change what you mean with every post. Who are the best black characters? Who are the best black creators? Who are the most popular black characters created by blacks? Why are there so few black properties created by blacks? I'm fine discussing any of those topics. However, they are not the same topic and you not only attempt to conflate them, but you change what you mean in every subsequent post. Even you harping on Elmo... that was one of several examples I gave because it fit the specific topic of your original question. Now, since you were wrong with your first few statements, the "conversation has evolved" to mean something entirely different. I offered up multiple examples of some of the most mainstream black created characters, but now the onus is quality? OK ::) I've addressed every single point you brought up. I can't help what you believe. There are still people posting that that they don't understand why they don't just make the black female James Bond a different character. You people will believe anything you're committed to believing. I can only try to guide you in the right direction.
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Interesting posts. Let me ask this incredible brain trust something.
This is a link to the top films of 2018. Do you notice anything interesting about the top 20 films?
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2018
Yes very interesting posts - That you Couldn’t Answer.
I’ve got nowt against Blacks in Fact I think every household should have 1 or 2.... ;D
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Yes very interesting posts - That you Couldn’t Answer
I’ve got nowt against Blacks in Fact I think every household should have 1 or 2.... ;D
Here Click on this link. WWW.mudhutsandpointystic ks/black-achievement.com
I'm actually trying to engage with you on this topic to discuss those points. I guess just changing what you guys mean every post wasn't enough. Now it's just avoiding and changing the subject? ???
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This movie is going to make the Ghostbusters remake look like serious filmwork. The premise borders on parody and it's going to bomb like nothing else.
Why not just develop a character within the Bond movie and make a spinoff? Not that difficult really to make your statement without destroying the franchise.
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This movie is going to make the Ghostbusters remake look like serious filmwork. The premise borders on parody and it's going to bomb like nothing else.
Why not just develop a character within the Bond movie and make a spinoff? Not that difficult really to make your statement without destroying the franchise.
It's almost like a bunch of idiots having a meltdown over a non-story. ???
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Elmo
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Elmo
Batman
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I'm actually trying to engage with you on this topic to discuss those points. I guess just changing what you guys mean every post wasn't enough. Now it's just avoiding and changing the subject? ???
Okay - I’ll play.
What is your view on Blacks taking on & playing white fictional character roles ?
Why are no black writers writing new black fictional super hero characters ?
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Batman
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I though the Left always complained about so-called cultural appropriation?
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It's almost like a bunch of idiots having a meltdown over a non-story. ???
The story here is using a token female black actor to deliberately add media hype and controversy to help publicise the film.
The casting is not based on any other reasons.
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I though the Left always complained about so-called cultural appropriation?
That only applies when white people appropriate their shit. When they take white people's shit it's fine.
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The story here is using a token female black actor to deliberately add media hype and controversy to help publicise the film.
The casting is not based on any other reasons.
I used that response three times in this thread, and it was only to people who said that a better option than having a black female James Bond would be for the studio to do exactly what it's doing. One was as recently as last night.
Okay - I’ll play.
What is your view on Blacks taking on & playing white fictional character roles ?
Why are no black writers writing new black fictional super hero characters ?
Great. I've already made it clear that I don't see a problem with other races playing fictional characters that have been traditionally white.
So, here's the link I posted earlier of the top grossing films from 2018:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2018
To save everyone the trouble, I'll just point out what the interesting trend is: Nearly every film in the top 20 is a remake, sequel or part of a franchise. And there are several more when you move down the list. Several weeks this year, every top 10 earning film of the week has also been either a remake, a sequel or a franchise.
This is not how it's always been. Obviously there have always been sequels and franchises, but comprising almost the entire industry is a fairly recent trend, partially triggered by consolidation in various media industries. So when you look at those trends, there's a few questions that seem obvious to me:
-Why would blacks be ashamed or embarrassed that they're not playing original characters when it's the trend of the entire industry?
-If you're a studio head, and you're following the trend of doing reboots, do you just churn out every reboot you can, or do you try to find a way to differentiate your reboot? Considering the heavy reliance on reboots and the trend of race/gender swapping seemed to coincide, isn't there a likelihood that they have something to do with each other?
This is how getbig was talking about reboots/remakes in 2011:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=388835.0
You can find multiple threads like this by kicking in the right keywords.
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This movie is going to make the Ghostbusters remake look like serious filmwork. The premise borders on parody and it's going to bomb like nothing else.
Why not just develop a character within the Bond movie and make a spinoff? Not that difficult really to make your statement without destroying the franchise.
Actually, it depends on her acting chops. If she was born in the UK and has the accent, the other components will fall in place with a solid European director. Guaranteed she'll be better than TER-MAN-HATER and Social Justice Larson, the North AmeriH@es.
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What about this legendary character.
Shanaynay!
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Despicable
But par for the course these days. Expected move.
Natalie Portman is the next Thor ::)
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Despicable
But par for the course these days. Expected move.
Natalie Portman is the next Thor ::)
i can live with a female thor b/c of hawk woman, just feel they are similar, but portman is too short.
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i can live with a female thor b/c of hawk woman, just feel they are similar, but portman is too short.
They can't do anything with that tiny fragile body of hers.
She could train for years and still not look convincing lifting that hammer.
She'll probably be 100 % CGI or an athletic woman with Portmans face on.
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I used that response three times in this thread, and it was only to people who said that a better option than having a black female James Bond would be for the studio to do exactly what it's doing. One was as recently as last night.
Great. I've already made it clear that I don't see a problem with other races playing fictional characters that have been traditionally white.
So, here's the link I posted earlier of the top grossing films from 2018:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2018
To save everyone the trouble, I'll just point out what the interesting trend is: Nearly every film in the top 20 is a remake, sequel or part of a franchise. And there are several more when you move down the list. Several weeks this year, every top 10 earning film of the week has also been either a remake, a sequel or a franchise.
This is not how it's always been. Obviously there have always been sequels and franchises, but comprising almost the entire industry is a fairly recent trend, partially triggered by consolidation in various media industries. So when you look at those trends, there's a few questions that seem obvious to me:
-Why would blacks be ashamed or embarrassed that they're not playing original characters when it's the trend of the entire industry?
-If you're a studio head, and you're following the trend of doing reboots, do you just churn out every reboot you can, or do you try to find a way to differentiate your reboot? Considering the heavy reliance on reboots and the trend of race/gender swapping seemed to coincide, isn't there a likelihood that they have something to do with each other?
This is how getbig was talking about reboots/remakes in 2011:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=388835.0
You can find multiple threads like this by kicking in the right keywords.
Man, have we really ran out of ideas? Are there only a certain amount of scripts? Shit, music always changes. Why not screen plays?
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They can't do anything with that tiny fragile body of hers.
She could train for years and still not look convincing lifting that hammer.
She'll probably be 100 % CGI or an athletic woman with Portmans face on.
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Actually, it depends on her acting chops. If she was born in the UK and has the accent, the other components will fall in place with a solid European director. Guaranteed she'll be better than TER-MAN-HATER and Social Justice Larson, the North AmeriH@es.
She can act like a white man?
Am I missing something or am I supposed to pretend they aren't doing the equivalent of say.......casting PeeWee Herman in a new Shaft movie?
I guess the Kingsman movies took over the 007 mantle.
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She can act like a white man?
Am I missing something or am I supposed to pretend they aren't doing the equivalent of say.......casting PeeWee Herman in a new Shaft movie?
I guess the Kingsman movies took over the 007 mantle.
All I know is, she seems to be more palatable than Ter-man-hater. Then again, minority women aren't the driving force behind metoo, sjw, etc, etc, etc.
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Piers Morgan agree's:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7444131/PIERS-MORGAN-Dont-feminist-snowflakes-dare-turn-James-Bond-woman.html
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Elmo
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What in the actual fuck?!?! How can you change not only the race, but the sex of a character that is over 60 years old!?!?!
You know what, fuck it! If they're willing to do this to Bond, I want Wonder Woman to be played by The Rock in the next movie!
I also love how they are more than willing to have a white fictional character played by a black person (Bond, Kingpin), but there would be riots in every shit town if they had a white guy play a known black character! Imagine if they cast Zach Efron as the Black Panther in the sequel, someone please make it happen! lol
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What in the actual fuck?!?! How can you change not only the race, but the sex of a character that is over 60 years old!?!?!
You know what, fuck it! If they're willing to do this to Bond, I want Wonder Woman to be played by The Rock in the next movie!
I also love how they are more than willing to have a white fictional character played by a black person (Bond, Kingpin), but there would be riots in every shit town if they had a white guy play a known black character! Imagine if they cast Zach Efron as the Black Panther in the sequel, someone please make it happen! lol
Gandalf as a muslim woman next (with burqa), Frodo as a huge 2meter bodybuilder, Aragorn as a wheelchair ridden tranny.
Spock as a black teenage girl, Don Corleone as a huge black woman (like Precious) and an indian as Tony Montana.
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Gandalf as a muslim woman next (with burqa), Frodo as a huge 2meter bodybuilder, Aragorn as a wheelchair ridden tranny.
Spock as a black teenage girl, Don Corleone as a huge black woman (like Precious) and an indian as Tony Montana.
HAHHAHA! YES to all of these! lol!
Well, since they were more than willing to change the race of Ariel in the new Little Mermaid, how about they make Pocahontas white in the live action version. Cause you know Disney will eventually make it, at the rate they're going! lol
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HAHHAHA! YES to all of these! lol!
Well, since they were more than willing to change the race of Ariel in the new Little Mermaid, how about they make Pocahontas white in the live action version. Cause you know Disney will eventually make it, at the rate they're going! lol
Black panther needs to be a jewish Zuckerberg-like fellow next, see how the afros feel about that... :D
Barbra Streisand as the new "Shaft" as well.
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Is it still a Hebrew/Japhite woman?
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Not sure if she will be "Bond" or just some agent, but still pretty silly of them.
Embarrassing like most things in main stream media (news, movies, social media, etc).
Gayer than man-buns and skinny jeans.
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More woke than a "woke" Gillette-commercial.
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More woke than a "woke" Gillette-commercial.
hahaha
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This last Craig movie is supposedly a big mess.
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Is it still a Hebrew/Japhite woman?
Hamite.
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yes, there won't be any Real Men left in America pretty soon...the majority of them are being gagged and forced to wear maxi pads by this shit #metoo movement....
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Can’t wait for Leslie Jones to be the new Dindu Bond
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I can't believe that there's been no teaser or even really any footage from this last Craig film.
Does it even have a title? ???
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Truly hilarious!
I don't know who is more pathetic, moron Beto or this h-o-m-o.
Mayor Buttplug says: James Bond Not ‘Intrinsically White’
Mayor Buttigieg: James Bond Not ‘Intrinsically White’
Mayor Pete Buttigieg believes that characters like James Bond are not “intrinsically white,” allowing Hollywood executives to switch up the race of any character.
“I think, whether we’re talking about James Bond or whether we’re talking about comic books, it makes sense for the portrayal of these characters to reflect the amazing cultural diversity of the country,” he said when asked about black actors playing characters that were previously played by white actors.
The South Bend mayor weighed in on pop culture on Friday in an interview with TMZ Live after the Democrat debate.
One of the TMZ hosts asked about the current proposal by Marvel Producer Kevin Feige, who floated the idea of casting white X-Men characters Professor X and Magneto as black.
Buttigieg praised recent portrayals of the leading X-Men characters by white actors but indicated that changing their race would be a good thing.
“Look, one of the beauties of making comic books into movies is, you can reimagine them constantly and there’s nothing intrinsically white about any of those character roles,” he said.
He added that he would “love” to see a racial change of characters in the upcoming X-Men movies.
“I just care about whether it’s going to be good — and I believe that they are up to that in producing a new film, and I would love to see that kind of diversity.”
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It appears that a lot of Getbig folks have trouble with change.
Since the likelihood of my taking the trouble to go to the cinema to watch it, I don't honestly care who gets the Bond character. Sean Connery played James Bond the first time I went to a Bond movie. In my head he's always been who I think of as Bond.
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Truly hilarious!
I don't know who is more pathetic, moron Beto or this h-o-m-o.
Mayor Buttplug says: James Bond Not ‘Intrinsically White’
All of these characters are fictional, so race bending is ok if it fits within their universe. magneto's arc ties into the holocaust, so the black angle doesn't fit. xavier is probably ok (think sisko and picard in the star trek universe who are interchangeable as captains ). elba was perfect for james bond b/c the character is about swag, not a race. starfire was a complete cluster phuck move by the studios.
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All of these characters are fictional, so race bending is ok if it fits within their universe. magneto's arc ties into the holocaust, so the black angle doesn't fit. xavier is probably ok (think sisko and picard in the star trek universe who are interchangeable as captains ). elba was perfect for james bond b/c the character is about swag, not a race. starfire was a complete cluster phuck move by the studios.
Couldn't disagree more.
If diversity is the desire, create new characters from scratch, don't co-opt established white male characters.
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What in the actual fuck?!?! How can you change not only the race, but the sex of a character that is over 60 years old!?!?!
You know what, fuck it! If they're willing to do this to Bond, I want Wonder Woman to be played by The Rock in the next movie!
I also love how they are more than willing to have a white fictional character played by a black person (Bond, Kingpin), but there would be riots in every shit town if they had a white guy play a known black character! Imagine if they cast Zach Efron as the Black Panther in the sequel, someone please make it happen! lol
But take a look at the actual box office:
here's a link to how all of the marvel films have done at the box office:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=marvelcomics.htm
Now what do we see?
Outside of the Avengers films- which are basically mega-crossover events- the best performing standalone film was Black Panther. The Next best performing was Captain Marvel. (of course Marvel cooked the books for those films ::) ) Then after that, is Iron Man 3, the one in which Pepper Potts' role was most prominent and she donned an Iron suit. We also see that of the Thor movies, the first two did about the same box office, while the third (with the female antagonist and the black lesbian sidekick) did more than $100 million more.
When you look at the DC universe box office- similar trends:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=dccomics.htm
The top spots go to two of Nolan's Dark Knight films, but of the films from the more recent rebooted universe, the most successful stand alone is Wonder Woman. The next best grossing project was Aquaman starring Jason Mamoa (who I think is somoan) supported by Amber Heard and Nicole Kidman.
Then let's take a look at the John Wick series:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=wick.htm
The first film did 43 million and the second did 92 million. But the third film, the one that everyone was disappointed to see halle berry in, did $172 million, nearly double the previous film.
You can parse these numbers in a lot of different ways and of course the numbers aren't solely due to adding a darkie to the cast, but it's pretty clear that diversifying a film cast is a pretty reliable way to help it break out.
Couldn't disagree more.
If diversity is the desire, create new characters from scratch, don't co-opt established white male characters.
Why would you expect this from an industry that is almost exclusively dealing in pre-existing properties at this point?
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Couldn't disagree more.
If diversity is the desire, create new characters from scratch, don't co-opt established white male characters.
is martian manhunter white or black based on the comics and cartoons? black guy seems pretty dope to me.
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is martian manhunter white or black based on the comics and cartoons? black guy seems pretty dope to me.
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He always looked Martian in the 80s.
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Later on
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He could be played by anyone really.
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