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I always try to keep up with current trends on eating and dieting, have browsed many forums, reddits subs etc, but nowhere do I see the kind of results these people get.The overwhelming trend is the people who water fast, and truly stick to it, as in no food, just water for 7/10/14/21/28 days +, lose an insane amount of bodyfat and very little muscle.I say that from picture observations and people who have had muscle mass, bodyfat etc tested professionally before and after , which is the most minimal muscle loss I've seen from most diets.
Typically days 1 and 2 are easy, 3 and 4 the most difficult, then by day 5 hunger essentially goes.Only things you need to do it, are excess bodyfat, or your body will start burning muscle and organ tissue. Electrolytes, with potassium and sodium being all you really need, some add magnesium too.Potassium and sodium can be got with one teaspoon full of lite table salt in water once a day.And lastly obviously water, 1 litre+ a day.
People usually burn around 2/3 of a pound to a pound of bodyfat a day and keep it off once they resume eating, obviously gaining some of the water back when they introduce carbs.One guy went a year with just water and lost 300 pounds, with no negative effects on any measurable hospital test he took.Its really looking like eating anything, if you are mentally strong enough, is a complete waste of time while dieting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/top?t=all
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It’s effectiveness was well documented in early 40’s Germany. Was insanely popular, 6 Million folks lost a staggering amount of weight.
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Eat less - Move more - Burn more calories than you consume.
Simple - No need to reinvent the Wheel.
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It’s effectiveness was well documented in early 40’s Germany. Was insanely popular, 6 Million folks lost a staggering amount of weight.
Yup, I would bet from the results I've seen they lost very little muscle, until obviously due to the circumstances they couldn't stop the forced water fast once they had very visibly defined abs.At that point your body needs energy from somewhere and will turn to muscle and organs.
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Eat less - Move more - Burn more calories than you consume.
Simple - No need to reinvent the Wheel.
Sure, but still everyone thinks you need to eat something or you die.The visions come up of hunger strikers who usually refuse the 1 litre plus of water needed to live per day, and don't take electrolytes which can lead to heart attacks, or they get so lean the body turns to muscle and organs.
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Eat less - Move more - Burn more calories than you consume.
Simple - No need to reinvent the Wheel.
Exactly. It's always the lazy fat fucks thinking their is some kinda secret short cut they just haven't discovered yet.
You didn't become fat overnight and you're not gonna lose it overnight. Also fatsos doing extreme diets nearly always falter and end up fatter than when they started.
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Exactly. It's always the lazy fat fucks thinking their is some kinda secret short cut they just haven't discovered yet.
You didn't become fat overnight and you're not gonna lose it overnight. Also fatsos doing extreme diets nearly always falter and end up fatter than when they started.
But if you don't need food to lose fat, and lose fat faster without any, with negligible muscle loss, and very little hunger, why bother eating?At this point eating becomes lazy if you are results orientated.
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But if you don't need food to lose fat, and lose fat faster without any, with negligible muscle loss, and very little hunger, why bother eating?At this point eating becomes lazy if you are results orientated.
As I said fat people are lazy so sitting around doing nothing is second nature to them.
If you're even moderately active you need an energy source to fuel your activities and that ideally needs to be food otherwise you will end up in a catabolic state much sooner than a sedentary person.
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you mean..... I won't die without food ???
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As I said fat people are lazy so sitting around doing nothing is second nature to them.
If you're even moderately active you need an energy source to fuel your activities and that ideally needs to be food otherwise you will end up in a catabolic state much sooner than a sedentary person.
People still weight train, kickbox, run etc while water fasting.Your body is covered with usable energy, it was designed that way to survive famines.
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Would not hit to hit it in 21 days or under
https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/comments/c4qps5/day_13_water_fast_1891635/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/comments/f63sst/one_21day_fast_can_change_your_life/
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People still weight train, kickbox, run etc while water fasting.Your body is covered with usable energy, it was designed that way to survive famines.
And they often feel a lot weaker for it and have poor quality workouts.
As said no need to reinvent the wheel.
The only merit to these types of diet is as a short sharp kick to the system to start the weightloss process. But there are no shortcuts if pharmaceuticals aren't involved
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The top girl in the link, has some of the best results I've ever seen! Assuming her after pic isn't photoshopped, she went from a fat pig covered in stretch marks to having a 9/10 body!
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Guy who water fasted for a whole year
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast
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Of course. After no food for about 16 or more hours, their body goes into fasting ketosis. After that, they'll just burn body fat, hunger and cravings start to disappear, then comes more energy, better sleep, and great mental clarity.
Long term doing this off and on, there is fat loss even without exercise.
The same can be achieved with nutritional ketosis via the keto diet, specially the carnivore diet.
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Guy who water fasted for a whole year
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast
He died at 51. Not the greatest endorsement for fasting long term like that.
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Of course. After no food for about 16 or more hours, their body goes into fasting ketosis. After that, they'll just burn body fat, hunger and cravings start to disappear, then comes more energy, better sleep, and great mental clarity.
Long term doing this off and on, there is fat loss even without exercise.
The same can be achieved with nutritional ketosis via the keto diet, specially the carnivore diet.
Also autophagy and water fasting has cured type 2 diabities in some.
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He died at 51. Not the greatest endorsement for fasting long term like that.
People who weighed 456 pounds at some point in their lives don't tend to live long.
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I always try to keep up with current trends on eating and dieting, have browsed many forums, reddits subs etc, but nowhere do I see the kind of results these people get.The overwhelming trend is the people who water fast, and truly stick to it, as in no food, just water for 7/10/14/21/28 days +, lose an insane amount of bodyfat and very little muscle.I say that from picture observations and people who have had muscle mass, bodyfat etc tested professionally before and after , which is the most minimal muscle loss I've seen from most diets.
Typically days 1 and 2 are easy, 3 and 4 the most difficult, then by day 5 hunger essentially goes.Only things you need to do it, are excess bodyfat, or your body will start burning muscle and organ tissue. Electrolytes, with potassium and sodium being all you really need, some add magnesium too.Potassium and sodium can be got with one teaspoon full of lite table salt in water once a day.And lastly obviously water, 1 litre+ a day.
People usually burn around 2/3 of a pound to a pound of bodyfat a day and keep it off once they resume eating, obviously gaining some of the water back when they introduce carbs.One guy went a year with just water and lost 300 pounds, with no negative effects on any measurable hospital test he took.Its really looking like eating anything, if you are mentally strong enough, is a complete waste of time while dieting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/top?t=all
Stupidity, only nature's resource which will never end...Fasting = Diet for idiots, who doesn't understand laws of human physique, nutrients etc. Point is that you can drop your weight fast by fasting, but you can't drop your bodyfat% with that speed. How this is possible? Muscle tissue weights ~20% more than fat tissue. If you are fasting, your metabolism doesn't stop needing protein, so it take it from your muscles, and that's why your weight is dropping fast. Why your metabolism need so much protein? All your brain functions are based on protein, so if you don't get protein from your diet, you lose muscle mass. There is no means to get around this fact. Why do you think that there is new way of dieting published by every other minute? Because burning fat is thing next to impossible to do easily. It always require lot of hard work, but idiots who try to find shortcuts are endless. Just about only way to burn fat for energy is ketogenic diet, and that will work with 100% certainty, if you do it by the book. No one knows will you survive from it, but you will lose body fat fast ;D
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Also autophagy and water fasting has cured type 2 diabities in some.
Of course. Ask conventional doctors and they'll tell you that type 2 diabetes is incurable, and only the symptoms can be treated using expensive diabetes medications.
The truth is there exist at least three proven cures for type 2 diabetes:
Gastric bypass surgery
A very, very restricted calorie diet
The keto diet, including the carnivore diet, which mimic fasting.
The Soviet Union also did tons of research and human testing of fasting to cure all kinds of diseases. They even had fasting clinics run by medical doctors and nurses. All of this kind of got forgotten after the end of the cold war. The documents still exist, but haven't yet been translated from Russian and published.
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Stupidity, only nature's resource which will never end...Fasting = Diet for idiots, who doesn't understand laws of human physique, nutrients etc. Point is that you can drop your weight fast by fasting, but you can't drop your bodyfat% with that speed. How this is possible? Muscle tissue weights ~20% more than fat tissue. If you are fasting, your metabolism doesn't stop needing protein, so it take it from your muscles, and that's why your weight is dropping fast. Why your metabolism need so much protein? All your brain functions are based on protein, so if you don't get protein from your diet, you lose muscle mass. There is no means to get around this fact. Why do you think that there is new way of dieting published by every other minute? Because burning fat is thing next to impossible to do easily. It always require lot of hard work, but idiots who try to find shortcuts are endless. Just about only way to burn fat for energy is ketogenic diet, and that will work with 100% certainty, if you do it by the book. No one knows will you survive from it, but you will lose body fat fast ;D
Estimates for how much bodyfat can be burned a day are still all over the place from study to study.There is still so much we don't know about the human body.Even today the world is getting wrecked by a virus the world has no vaccine for.Sars a similar virus still no vaccine in 2 decades.Look at the results, clearly people are shifting way more bodyfat in a shorter timeframe than any other diet I've seen.
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People who weighed 456 pounds at some point in their lives don't tend to live long.
Stressing the body in any extreme way has a knock on effect on health/lifespan and that includes extreme forms of fasting.
Ask guys who reached crazy low levels of body fat how long it took them to start feeling normal again. It's usually months, on occasions they're never the same again.
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Stressing the body in any extreme way has a knock on effect on health/lifespan and that includes extreme forms of fasting.
Ask guys who reached crazy low levels of body fat how long it took them to start feeling normal again. It's usually months, on occasions they're never the same again.
But much of the stress on the body is digestion.This basically shuts down on a water fast.And of course getting near ultra low bodyfat isn't going to be good for you.But the body is designed to exist in a fasted state, it's why we store bodyfat in the first place.
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There's tons of posts from lifters who water fasted for weeks and lost no size, this was just the first I came across
https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/comments/a6ki5e/before_and_after_a_21_day_fast_i_completed_in/
Also this study
https://www.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00907.2010
after 6 weeks the athletes saw a 10% increase in muscle capillary density indicating the muscles were growing, the fasted athletes increased their exercise intensity three times more than the carbohydrate-fed athletes (21% fasted vs 6% carb eating), the fasted athletes had a significant breakdown of intramuscular fat while the carbohydrate-fed athletes showed absolutely no breakdown of intramuscular fat.
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I love fasting when I am not bbing
it works
do not snack at all (no carrots, no cucumbers) since it spikes insulin
do not drink BCAA, or coffee imho
just water and water only (add salt, and some potassium) that is it.
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Great thread
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I've done it 3 different times for 72 hours each time but not for fat loss. I was interested in autophagy. It only takes 2-3 days to get in that state and more days after that has diminishing returns, they say, at least for autophagy.
It wasn't that difficult actually doing it. Fat loss isn't on my radar so I don't remember that but I do remember maintaining muscle and energy.
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Of course. Ask conventional doctors and they'll tell you that type 2 diabetes is incurable, and only the symptoms can be treated using expensive diabetes medications.
The truth is there exist at least three proven cures for type 2 diabetes:
Gastric bypass surgery
A very, very restricted calorie diet
The keto diet, including the carnivore diet, which mimic fasting.
The Soviet Union also did tons of research and human testing of fasting to cure all kinds of diseases. They even had fasting clinics run by medical doctors and nurses. All of this kind of got forgotten after the end of the cold war. The documents still exist, but haven't yet been translated from Russian and published.
I have been on a carnivore diet since the beginning of January, lost 10lbs initially now eating as much as I like , not counted a single calories , still eating dairy and eggs.
Training going well, shape and size coming back fast after a lay off.
Its far from fasting Im eating more than I have in a long time
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Exactly. It's always the lazy fat fucks thinking their is some kinda secret short cut they just haven't discovered yet.
You didn't become fat overnight and you're not gonna lose it overnight. Also fatsos doing extreme diets nearly always falter and end up fatter than when they started.
Correct - Their always looking for a New Trick or The Easy Way 🙄
They didn’t get fat overnight they had to work At it.
I fast every night when I sleep & when I wake up I Break-Fast - - Simple.
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Cole "The Snake Diet" Robinson:
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Muscle wasting....
Keto is fasting-like but while maintaining muscle. Cant beat that. Problem people have with Keto is they overdo the fats.
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I always try to keep up with current trends on eating and dieting, have browsed many forums, reddits subs etc, but nowhere do I see the kind of results these people get.The overwhelming trend is the people who water fast, and truly stick to it, as in no food, just water for 7/10/14/21/28 days +, lose an insane amount of bodyfat and very little muscle.I say that from picture observations and people who have had muscle mass, bodyfat etc tested professionally before and after , which is the most minimal muscle loss I've seen from most diets.
Typically days 1 and 2 are easy, 3 and 4 the most difficult, then by day 5 hunger essentially goes.Only things you need to do it, are excess bodyfat, or your body will start burning muscle and organ tissue. Electrolytes, with potassium and sodium being all you really need, some add magnesium too.Potassium and sodium can be got with one teaspoon full of lite table salt in water once a day.And lastly obviously water, 1 litre+ a day.
People usually burn around 2/3 of a pound to a pound of bodyfat a day and keep it off once they resume eating, obviously gaining some of the water back when they introduce carbs.One guy went a year with just water and lost 300 pounds, with no negative effects on any measurable hospital test he took.Its really looking like eating anything, if you are mentally strong enough, is a complete waste of time while dieting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/top?t=all
Why do I have trouble believing someone can survive on water, electrolytes and a few minerals and nothing else for an entire year. The longest known fast was in 1971, when a 27-year-old man survived on water and supplements for 382 days and shrank from 456 to 180 pounds. If you believe this then I guess it is possible. I only weigh 182 lbs tops. Technically based on this , if I fasted for a year I would disappear in about 6 or 7 months. ;D
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Eat less - Move more - Burn more calories than you consume.
Simple - No need to reinvent the Wheel.
This is so simple and makes a lot of sense. It should be easy to follow. Why do you suppose people keep coming up with elaborate diet plans that are often impossible to follow for any length of time? Of course, when people get so huge they can no longer move without help, burning calories becomes more difficult.
(https://i1.wp.com/bis-serjeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Obese-man-2.jpg?fit=1240%2C703&ssl=1)
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The top girl in the link, has some of the best results I've ever seen! Assuming her after pic isn't photoshopped, she went from a fat pig covered in stretch marks to having a 9/10 body!
Stretch marks are actually scars. Once you have them, they don't go away just because you loose weight.
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Guy who water fasted for a whole year
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast
Gotta' love his name, Angus. It makes me think of Angus beef.
Losing all that weight seems not to have provided him a long life, his having died and 50 years of age.
(https://cdn.britannica.com/39/76939-050-B787E5BF/bull-Black-Angus.jpg)
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Stupidity, only nature's resource which will never end...Fasting = Diet for idiots, who doesn't understand laws of human physique, nutrients etc. Point is that you can drop your weight fast by fasting, but you can't drop your bodyfat% with that speed. How this is possible? Muscle tissue weights ~20% more than fat tissue. If you are fasting, your metabolism doesn't stop needing protein, so it take it from your muscles, and that's why your weight is dropping fast. Why your metabolism need so much protein? All your brain functions are based on protein, so if you don't get protein from your diet, you lose muscle mass. There is no means to get around this fact. Why do you think that there is new way of dieting published by every other minute? Because burning fat is thing next to impossible to do easily. It always require lot of hard work, but idiots who try to find shortcuts are endless. Just about only way to burn fat for energy is ketogenic diet, and that will work with 100% certainty, if you do it by the book. No one knows will you survive from it, but you will lose body fat fast ;D
Another way to lose fat quickly is to have liposuction.
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It’s effectiveness was well documented in early 40’s Germany. Was insanely popular, 6 Million folks lost a staggering amount of weight.
LOL!
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Correct - Their always looking for a New Trick or The Easy Way 🙄
They didn’t get fat overnight they had to work At it.
I fast every night when I sleep & when I wake up I Break-Fast - - Simple.
Funny how this works, isn't it. I do the same thing and my weight has been stable my entire adult life. When I was 18 years old I had a 32" waist. 57 years later, I still have a 32" waist. Another thing I do is eat when I get hungry and quit eating before I feel full, just comfortable. Regimented mealtimes are for kids who forget to eat. If it's mealtime and I don't feel hungry, I don't eat. Sometimes, I eat an apple or a handful of mixed nuts. On occasion, I'll crave a chocolate bar. When I do, I have one without any guilt. I won't use margarine on toast or anything else. It must be butter lightly spread or nothing. -Not a big soda pop person, but when I have one, it isn't diet pop. I never eat foods or drink products that say sugar free, meaning they have some substitute chemical sweetener. Never use coffee-mate, always half and half or drink it black.
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And they often feel a lot weaker for it and have poor quality workouts.
As said no need to reinvent the wheel.
The only merit to these types of diet is as a short sharp kick to the system to start the weightloss process. But there are no shortcuts if pharmaceuticals aren't involved
This. I fast for 5 days at a time two sometimes three times a year. I do it after periods where I've been eating a lot of shit, or where I've been mentally bogged down with stuff. I enjoy it and I like how I feel afterwards. Done it for ten years now. Don't be fooled by anyone claiming they have more energy and/or they can still workout. Thats bullshit. I enjoy the process but after day 3 I'm only going for a gentle walk - there's no way I'd be able to go to the gym and workout. And why would I? If you're not eating, your recovery is non existent.
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This is so simple and makes a lot of sense. It should be easy to follow. Why do you suppose people keep coming up with elaborate diet plans that are often impossible to follow for any length of time? Of course, when people get so huge they can no longer move without help, burning calories becomes more difficult.
(https://i1.wp.com/bis-serjeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Obese-man-2.jpg?fit=1240%2C703&ssl=1)
I think they come up with “New” diets for various reasons
1, Money to sell them & diet books
2, The New is Better Principle
3, Pandering to the wants (stupidity) of Women & Fat lazy people
4, It’s The Easy Diet People are looking for that Magical one
For Sure some diets have results.
Simple fact is Move more & eat less works - only Many don’t want to move more or do anything
Other than sit at work / home / Car & eat Then Complain about being / getting fat.
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Funny how this works, isn't it. I do the same thing and my weight has been stable my entire adult life. When I was 18 years old I had a 32" waist. 57 years later, I still have a 32" waist. Another thing I do is eat when I get hungry and quit eating before I feel full, just comfortable. Regimented mealtimes are for kids who forget to eat. If it's mealtime and I don't feel hungry, I don't eat. Sometimes, I eat an apple or a handful of mixed nuts. On occasion, I'll crave a chocolate bar. When I do, I have one without any guilt. I won't use margarine on toast or anything else. It must be butter lightly spread or nothing. -Not a big soda pop person, but when I have one, it isn't diet pop. I never eat foods or drink products that say sugar free, meaning they have some substitute chemical sweetener. Never use coffee-mate, always half and half or drink it black.
That’s sensible steady eating - and it working fine for you, As it would for most Everyone.
Why is it they all want to lose Fat Fast - They Very likey eat their way to fatness of a period
Of time - Then suddenly must lose it Fast.
I bet there weren’t any fat people when we had to hunt for food simple rule of survival.
Many otherwise intelligent people have become stupid when it comes to eating & Being
Gluttonous- Then Complain they've got “Big Bones” “Slow metabolism” “All my family are Big”
Just Pathetic Excuses.
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I think they come up with “New” diets for various reasons
1, Money to sell them & diet books
2, The New is Better Principle
3, Pandering to the wants (stupidity) of Women & Fat lazy people
4, It’s The Easy Diet People are looking for that Magical one
For Sure some diets have results.
Simple fact is Move more & eat less works - only Many don’t want to move more or do anything
Other than sit at work / home / Car & eat Then Complain about being / getting fat.
There are diet plans that work if people follow them and learn to eat differently from them. If however, they diet and then go back to eating the way that made them overweight in the first place, the diet is blamed. Overly strict diets are less likely to work because they are meant to be temporary. Weight Watchers is actually a good diet, if people follow it indefinitely which shouldn't be hard to do since nothing is forbidden, just the quantities are controlled so that you don't overeat, which is the basic problem most people have with food. Also, Weight Watchers offers a balanced diet. Most Diets that omit a food group, such as carbs or fats are not going to work in the long run because they cannot be sustained indefinitely.
Poor eating habits begin in childhood, IMO. My mom fixed just enough food for the three of us when I was growing up. A serving of vegetables, a portion of meat and usually a starch or a second vegetable. Desert was a rarity. There were no seconds or help yourself to as much as you want from serving bowls. The only exception was at holiday meals like Thanksgiving and then only if we had company. There was always fresh fruit in the house if you wanted a snack. Chips and such were reserved for weekend big barbecues with lots of people. My stepdad was a "meat and potatoes" person. He wouldn't eat casseroles of any kind. When we had pizza, we each ate two slices and maybe some salad.
A lot of parents today buy all manner of crap food and let their kids have at it. Families eat out much more and most restaurants give you way more food than you need. Take out is very common. Often meals are from fast food joints which have an array of bad choices and few good ones, diet-wise. Who the heck knows what is in that 'secret sauce' they smother your hamburger with. French fries are a mainstay at fast food restaurants. Try and get a healthy drink such as iced tea or real fruit juice, they are hard to find. Mostly all that is offered is a ginormous container of pop. I get water. The cup they give you is so small that you'd have to fill it three times to make one glass full.
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That’s sensible steady eating - and it working fine for you, As it would for most Everyone.
Why is it they all want to lose Fat Fast - They Very likey eat their way to fatness of a period
Of time - Then suddenly must lose it Fast.
I bet there weren’t any fat people when we had to hunt for food simple rule of survival.
Many otherwise intelligent people have become stupid when it comes to eating & Being
Gluttonous- Then Complain they've got “Big Bones” “Slow metabolism” “All my family are Big”
Just Pathetic Excuses.
You are making me laugh. Over the years I've heard all those excuses and more. It is utter nonsense. Sure there are different body types and we have different individual genetic makeups. But, being a mesomorph doesn't mean someone is automatically overweight, anymore than being an ectomorph guarantees you can eat all you want and never get fat. If a person is a mesomorph, they have a head start on developing a muscular physique, but they still need to exercise to achieve it.
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Stupidity, only nature's resource which will never end...Fasting = Diet for idiots, who doesn't understand laws of human physique, nutrients etc. Point is that you can drop your weight fast by fasting, but you can't drop your bodyfat% with that speed. How this is possible? Muscle tissue weights ~20% more than fat tissue. If you are fasting, your metabolism doesn't stop needing protein, so it take it from your muscles, and that's why your weight is dropping fast. Why your metabolism need so much protein? All your brain functions are based on protein, so if you don't get protein from your diet, you lose muscle mass. There is no means to get around this fact. Why do you think that there is new way of dieting published by every other minute? Because burning fat is thing next to impossible to do easily. It always require lot of hard work, but idiots who try to find shortcuts are endless. Just about only way to burn fat for energy is ketogenic diet, and that will work with 100% certainty, if you do it by the book. No one knows will you survive from it, but you will lose body fat fast ;D
In fact there is far more greater difference between fat and muscle tissue than 20%. Just reading article about F1 drivers from those times, where weight of the driver was one mean to get betteri lap times. Doctor of that series says that muscle weights 4 times more than same amount of fat. Found a picture about this, there is pound of meat and pound of fat:
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-36b518fc669ffaba4a834bc1222196cc)
So if you diet make you loss weight fast, speed of the weight loss comes from losing that red stuff, so you don't notice it so easily by the mirror, but in the scale you see miraculous weight loss. But on the other hand, that red stuff is just about only organ in your body, which even can use that yellow stuff as energy, so you will be screwed because you loss the means which could help you to loss that fat ;D
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Where can I buy this Diet-Water?
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reading her story, she didn't do water fasting, she did OMAD
It says she had bone broth, avocado, and heavy cream 4 or 5 days not OMAD nor complete water fasting.
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I think he was talking about this one. She went from gag worthy to loin swelling. Absolutely magic.
Whoops, my bad. I thought he meant the first link of the two Army posted on one of his posts.
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Very dangerous , a close friend of mine died water fasting
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I think he was talking about this one. She went from gag worthy to loin swelling. Absolutely magic.
Tummy tuck.
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I love fasting when I am not bbing
it works
do not snack at all (no carrots, no cucumbers) since it spikes insulin
do not drink BCAA, or coffee imho
just water and water only (add salt, and some potassium) that is it.
For how long do you fast?
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I think he was talking about this one. She went from gag worthy to loin swelling. Absolutely magic.
Yep, thats the pic I was talking about.
I really think she had some surgery done after the weight loss, cause you'd think her tits and stomach would be a mess after losing that much weight, and those titties are fucking epic! lol
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I think he was talking about this one. She went from gag worthy to loin swelling. Absolutely magic.
Water fasting made those stretch marks simply disappear. Where can I purchase this magic water?
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For how long do you fast?
I have tried every method of fasting for all different reasons:
for feeling good and having the most energy I recommend fasting from 9pm to 12pm - 16-18 hour fast. of course I was not working out in the AM, I would have 1 cup of coffee on an empty stomach middle morning and I felt amazing. So productive. its simple to do, lunch tastes amazing and you can crush your day before noon. I am in sales so being productive/always "on" is key for me.
I would wait before having coffee... (black) or strong green tea
for fat loss - you will want to go longer
I would fast Thursday 9pm through Saturday AM (36 hour fast) do it 1x per week
this time -
for mental and a reset and testing yourself, I have gone as long as 72 hours. it was fun in a sick twisted way ;D this is when i recommenced zero coffee and zero gum. test your will power
also fasting you need to work up to it, if you are in good shape, but want more energy and want to trim down, I would recommend doing a 16-18 hour fast daily.
also if fat loss is your goal - stop snacking during the day - it spikes blood sugars. i would eat 2-3 times from 12pm to 9pm. do not snack between meals
I was skeptical before I tried it but, I love to fast
Sex sucks when you are fasting - ??? eat a muffin before you go to pound town ;D
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I remember many years back a bodybuilder type guy did the show Survivor. Think he made it 30 days. Bitched and moaned the whole time and was one of the laziest on the show. But looked way better after 30 days from not eating basically anything.
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Water fasting made those stretch marks simply disappear. Where can I purchase this magic water?
Do you know only way how miracle like this could happen? In that skinny picture of this trailer park rose is her at 18 yr old, and in this fat picture she is 30, after making 12 children for his cousins.. If these pictures are in right order, it means that this girl has millions to use for plastic-surgery, and his is still taking photos in the trailer.. ;D
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I have tried every method of fasting for all different reasons:
for feeling good and having the most energy I recommend fasting from 9pm to 12pm - 16-18 hour fast. of course I was not working out in the AM, I would have 1 cup of coffee on an empty stomach middle morning and I felt amazing. So productive. its simple to do, lunch tastes amazing and you can crush your day before noon. I am in sales so being productive/always "on" is key for me.
I would wait before having coffee... (black) or strong green tea
for fat loss - you will want to go longer
I would fast Thursday 9pm through Saturday AM (36 hour fast) do it 1x per week
this time -
for mental and a reset and testing yourself, I have gone as long as 72 hours. it was fun in a sick twisted way ;D this is when i recommenced zero coffee and zero gum. test your will power
also fasting you need to work up to it, if you are in good shape, but want more energy and want to trim down, I would recommend doing a 16-18 hour fast daily.
also if fat loss is your goal - stop snacking during the day - it spikes blood sugars. i would eat 2-3 times from 12pm to 9pm. do not snack between meals
I was skeptical before I tried it but, I love to fast
Sex sucks when you are fasting - ??? eat a muffin before you go to pound town ;D
Thanks for the info!
Will have to try this out sometime, especially for the mental sharpness aspect. And will keep that muffin in mind ;D
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When u die you can start a fast
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I love fasting but any extended fast (24h+) means that I get diarrhea after my first meal. I'm guessing the food intake triggers bile release into the intestines but with no food substrate to absorb it, it goes right into the toilet.
Haven't found a good way to get around this, just something to be aware of for me
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I have been on a carnivore diet since the beginning of January, lost 10lbs initially now eating as much as I like , not counted a single calories , still eating dairy and eggs.
Training going well, shape and size coming back fast after a lay off.
Its far from fasting Im eating more than I have in a long time
Good for you. Sounds like you are doing this right.
It's far from fasting because you are instead feasting. You are probably eating only when you are hungry, and you eat as much as you want until you are full.
At the same time, although it's not fasting, it is very much like fasting because you are probably going into nutritional ketosis which is much like fasting ketosis, with almost all the benefits of fasting without the side effects and dangers of fasting.
Like fasting, you are probably going 12, 16, even 24 hours without eating simply because you are not hungry. You are not hungry because you are eating until you are full, and because you are satiated and well nurtured. That's what happens when you eat nutritionally dense, easily absorbed foods such as fatty red meat, egg yolks, fatty fish, full fat dairy, etc.
When you eat high fat low carb right, then real/natural hunger comes back. Real/natural hunger happens every 12 to 24 hours.
Good job!
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I love fasting but any extended fast (24h+) means that I get diarrhea after my first meal. I'm guessing the food intake triggers bile release into the intestines but with no food substrate to absorb it, it goes right into the toilet.
Haven't found a good way to get around this, just something to be aware of for me
In my opinion, water fasts longer than 24 hours should be done only under medical supervision, and not frequently. Extended water fasts can be dangerous, especially when done frequently.
A ketogenic diet is safe and has many of the same benefits, without the risks.
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You are making me laugh. Over the years I've heard all those excuses and more. It is utter nonsense. Sure there are different body types and we have different individual genetic makeups. But, being a mesomorph doesn't mean someone is automatically overweight, anymore than being an ectomorph guarantees you can eat all you want and never get fat. If a person is a mesomorph, they have a head start on developing a muscular physique, but they still need to exercise to achieve it.
It’s Nothing But Excuses For Those People - They Know What they Say is Stupid (well a majority Likely do)
Only they cling together with the daft Excuses. Take their cars / trains / buses away & let them walk.
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Water fasting made those stretch marks simply disappear. Where can I purchase this magic water?
Seems water fasting eradicates stretch marks no problem 🙄
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Autophagy and scars. There are anecdotal personal accounts of scars healing discussed on forums where people examine autophagy.
The general idea, whether proven or not:
"This is when the body goes into a self regulating machine and starts to eat up damaged cells, tissues, or scars. This process allows the body to go into a serious detoxification mode."
Autophagy protein LC3 regulates the fibrosis of hypertrophic scar by controlling Bcl-xL in dermal fibroblasts
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/)
Role of Autophagy and Apoptosis in Wound Tissue of Deep Second‐degree Burn in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/)
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Water fasting made those stretch marks simply disappear. Where can I purchase this magic water?
You can still see the stretch marks if you look closely.
That being said, I hate fat people, their lack of willpower is sickening.
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Autophagy and scars. There are anecdotal personal accounts of scars healing discussed on forums where people examine autophagy.
The general idea, whether proven or not:
"This is when the body goes into a self regulating machine and starts to eat up damaged cells, tissues, or scars. This process allows the body to go into a serious detoxification mode."
Autophagy protein LC3 regulates the fibrosis of hypertrophic scar by controlling Bcl-xL in dermal fibroblasts
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/)
Role of Autophagy and Apoptosis in Wound Tissue of Deep Second‐degree Burn in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/)
Interesting.
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Autophagy and scars. There are anecdotal personal accounts of scars healing discussed on forums where people examine autophagy.
The general idea, whether proven or not:
"This is when the body goes into a self regulating machine and starts to eat up damaged cells, tissues, or scars. This process allows the body to go into a serious detoxification mode."
Autophagy protein LC3 regulates the fibrosis of hypertrophic scar by controlling Bcl-xL in dermal fibroblasts
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/)
Role of Autophagy and Apoptosis in Wound Tissue of Deep Second‐degree Burn in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/)
I bet that works much better when breaking the fast with fatty red meat, bone broth, collagen, and egg yolks, eating lots of these when not fasting. The body needs the highest quality, best absorbed materials in order to repair and rebuild itself properly.
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You can still see the stretch marks if you look closely.
That being said, I hate fat people, their lack of willpower is sickening.
Hahaha
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You can still see the stretch marks if you look closely.
That being said, I hate fat people, their lack of willpower is sickening.
I don’t want to look that Closely !!
🤮
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I'll wait for the Coronavirus to hit big before I go on a fast... now is not a good time.
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Autophagy and scars. There are anecdotal personal accounts of scars healing discussed on forums where people examine autophagy.
The general idea, whether proven or not:
"This is when the body goes into a self regulating machine and starts to eat up damaged cells, tissues, or scars. This process allows the body to go into a serious detoxification mode."
Autophagy protein LC3 regulates the fibrosis of hypertrophic scar by controlling Bcl-xL in dermal fibroblasts
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5706833/)
Role of Autophagy and Apoptosis in Wound Tissue of Deep Second‐degree Burn in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114170/)
Very interesting. I don't scare easily but I do have a few. I might give this a try.
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I don’t want to look that Closely !!
🤮
Keep the lights off when banging.
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In my opinion, water fasts longer than 24 hours should be done only under medical supervision, and not frequently. Extended water fasts can be dangerous, especially when done frequently.
A ketogenic diet is safe and has many of the same benefits, without the risks.
LOL
You do realise we existed as a species before 1920 yeah?
Fuck me, 24hrs without food and we need medical attention? Thank God there was 1 doctor for every person during the depression to manage their body during their fasts...... ::)
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LOL
You do realise we existed as a species before 1920 yeah?
Fuck me, 24hrs without food and we need medical attention? Thank God there was 1 doctor for every person during the depression to manage their body during their fasts...... ::)
Even daily meals are probably something humans have only done in the last few thousand years. The amount of food the average western human eats is ridiculous.
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the mental benefits of a fast are crazy
after 1-2 days of fasting its super hard to go to sleep.
I am getting ready for a comp, but when I when Im done, you better believe I will be back to fasting
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Simple - No need to reinvent the Wheel.
sure words of wisdom! A little experimenting with other diets or methods keeps it interesting but keeping it simple is word.
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Wow, today I learned that reducing caloric intake = weight loss. Shocking, really.
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LOL
You do realise we existed as a species before 1920 yeah?
Fuck me, 24hrs without food and we need medical attention? Thank God there was 1 doctor for every person during the depression to manage their body during their fasts...... ::)
LOL...comparing starvation because of famine to voluntary, frequent, long water fasts for health benefits.
Oh yeah, I forgot that during the great depression people stopped eating and as a result they all got healthier, stronger, more energetic, mentally sharper, and malnourished kids got taller. None of them got seriously ill, or died due to starvation. My bad. ::)
Medical supervision during voluntary, frequent, long water fasts for health benefits may not be necessary for some individuals, but it's advisable for early detection and treatment of anemia, weakened immune system, liver and kidney problems, irregular heartbeat, vitamin and mineral deficiencies, muscle breakdown, and many other complications.
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(https://preview.redd.it/49td2o28qhp21.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=050213bc59191e8bfcc9f59edcfd56441deb8cb9)
I think he was talking about this one. She went from gag worthy to loin swelling. Absolutely magic.
Would love to see the tits though.
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It works like a charm
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It’s effectiveness was well documented in early 40’s Germany. Was insanely popular, 6 Million folks lost a staggering amount of weight.
Still the most effective diet for Europeans created by SS trainers 1940 -1945:
- 6am: 2 dry biscuits & chicory coffee
- 1pm: cabage or potato soup
- 6pm: dry corn bread
+ 8-10 hours of Iron Cross fit
:)
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Nothing burns fat like fasting for 30 days
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Nothing burns fat like fasting for 30 days
Fasting for more than 30 days.
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Nothing burns fat like fasting for 30 days
But that's nothing compared to the way, which that fasting burn your muscle mass. On the other hand, exactly what do you think is using that fat for energy? Only organ in your body which is even in theory is able to burn fat for energy, are your muscles, so there is tiny little disharmony in there. Do you find it?
You see, one of the hardest thing in human metabolism is turn the body fat to energy. Using meat to energy is far more easy, so if you are fasting, first to go is your muscles, and then when there is nothing else left, goes your fat. That's ok if you are some 80 lb internet celebrity, but if you are a lifter, I don't think you want to loose all that muscle mass earned by lot of hard work.. ;D
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I've done a week with no food....
Days one and two easy, no probs
Day 3 hungry
Day 4 starving can only think about food, low energy
Day 5 same as above
Day 6 less hungry able to function better
Day 7 same as above
I don't like it, it's a bit extreme....
Imo, fasting with a vegetable soup no carbs very low fat is the best method always with electrolytes obviously.
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I love fasting when I am not bbing
it works
do not snack at all (no carrots, no cucumbers) since it spikes insulin
do not drink BCAA, or coffee imho
just water and water only (add salt, and some potassium) that is it.
What? Salt? Just stick with the basics. When it comes down to it, you gotta have that drive & motivation to be who you want to be. Btw, who the f**k eats carrots & cucumbers? Not worth my time. Water, at least a gallon per day & straight up black coffee....YES! :)
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A true man is never afraid to go fasting for 2 weeks
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A true man is never afraid to go fasting for 2 weeks
Bro....
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Bro....
If you really wanna burn the fat, you do whatever it takes
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If you really wanna burn the fat, you do whatever it takes
Bro!
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fasting really proving to be da way
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fasting really proving to be da way
So you think we should all convert to Islam and observe Ramadan?
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Lol at going a year without any food. Why?
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Exactly. It's always the lazy fat fucks thinking their is some kinda secret short cut they just haven't discovered yet.
You didn't become fat overnight and you're not gonna lose it overnight. Also fatsos doing extreme diets nearly always falter and end up fatter than when they started.
very true
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Eat less - Move more - Burn more calories than you consume.
Simple - No need to reinvent the Wheel.
My nikka
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Interesting
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Exactly what I've been talking about, you lose no muscle, especially if you do 2-3 day fasts a week like myself. Nothing but benefits, increased stem cell production, growth hormone production, strengthens immune system, autophagy. It's the ultimate bio-hack.
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Fasting for more than 30 days.
;D
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Real life example
Old buddy of mine, former professional tennis player, nowadays a preacher. 4 weeks water fast (the real kind)
From 206 lbs to 160. Real discipline if you ask me. I never tried it. Did it during the month of february
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Real life example
Old buddy of mine, former professional tennis player, nowadays a preacher. 4 weeks water fast (the real kind)
From 206 lbs to 160. Real discipline if you ask me. I never tried it. Did it during the month of february
looks like hes about to start his period.
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looks like hes about to start his period.
:D Yeah, not a real manly pic.
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Transitioning nicely. Just slap on a set of bolt-ons and he’ll be ready to fuck in no time! (no homo)
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Yeah fasting 'tricks' the body into ultra autophaggy gains!!!
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looks like hes about to start his period.
His build is ok for a non lifter type.
His posture is absolutely bitch.
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His build is ok for a non lifter type.
His posture is absolutely bitch.
premenstrual pouch of peace
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He's no Bhanky.