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Title: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: obsidian on March 21, 2020, 04:16:30 AM
Could be BS, or maybe not?!  ;D

Coronavirus was likely deliberately released

https://www.newswars.com/deadly-pandemic-sets-stage-for-globalist-takeover/

Due to the conflicting reports about the Coronavirus, it is difficult to discern the truth.

Mainstream media, and the establishment that props it up, has become so distrusted that a crisis of confidence is threatening to bring everything down.

Coronavirus is hitting the United States at a time of internal conflict and civil war at the highest levels of government.

What we can discern are a variety of mega-trends that at the very least point to a strong motive for a deliberate release of a man-made virus that could meet the goals of bad actors working against America and humanity at large.

At the very least – even if it turns out that mortality rates are low – Coronavirus is being used as a deadly economic and political weapon.

To begin, let’s take a look at some of the major trends and data points that have recently shaped the globe:

In 2017, the Pentagon initiated a study that assessed the threat of synthetic biology tech creating engineered biological weapons that are difficult to identify. As Wired magazine reported, this development “…could have implications for defensive strategies against a new type of bioweapon, potentially more difficult to identify because it resembles its “natural” counterpart.”

The fact that Coronavirus first appeared in China, an enemy of the United States, meant that the most authoritarian country on earth set the tone for how to respond to the outbreak, and initiated a coverup of the true nature of the virus.

Efforts to undermine President Trump’s successful presidency have so far failed. A persistent effort to sabotage both Trump and American success at large has been at work since before Trump was elected.

An overall move toward authoritarian globalism worldwide is meeting resistance. Populist movements are angering elites.

The medical industrial complex is experiencing a crisis of confidence, as revealed by recent comments from top scientists at the WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit.

A pro-human philosophy for the future of mankind is gaining a foothold, threatening a long-established plan for technocratic rule.

Coronavirus is appearing at a critical point in human development. The technological revolution has the potential to lift up all of mankind, while overall confidence in the establishment is at an all time low as governments struggle to contain “empowered individuals“.

What better way to counter every single one of these developments than to release a pandemic virus on the globe?

When threatened with the prospect of a deadly virus, unprepared humans will quickly abandon any kind of morality or higher values in pursuit of the common good.

Deep state operatives (like George Soros) have already made moves to destabilize the United States.

Democrats have hoped for a global economic crisis to stop Trump from winning in 2020.

President Trump’s perceived inaction can be used against him if the virus is reported to be community spread on a large scale in the US.

Authoritarian rule, including Big Tech censorship of online speech, could be justified as a means to control the population.

The medical establishment can make a comeback with a vaccine to save the world from Coronavirus, utilizing the same synthetic biology technology that may have been used to create the virus.

The best response that informed individuals can take is to prepare as best we can while continuing to practice and promote virtues of freedom, self reliance, and Judeo Christian values that sustained the west during times of hardship in the past.

Make no mistake, America and Trump’s response could shape history.
Title: Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 21, 2020, 04:30:26 AM
Nah, it’s being used as cover for an economic reset. Notice the hotspot is Italy. Their debt to GDP is twice that of Germany, and is about to go into recession. China is slowing down too. That’s why oil prices have crashed. Less demand going forward. Russia and Saudi Arabia are China’s biggest oil suppliers.

Over playing this virus provides a pretext for the European central bank to inflate the currency and keep this failing European Union experiment, which isn’t working for anyone, at this point, alive for a bit longer.

Trump has to play along otherwise the dollar would skyrocket in value and make American exports less attractive. Even with the feds’ dramatic interventions, the dollar has increased versus the euro.


Follow the money. It’ll always lead you to the promised land.
Title: Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
Post by: Royalty on March 21, 2020, 04:34:27 AM
Could be BS, or maybe not?!  ;D

Coronavirus was likely deliberately released

https://www.newswars.com/deadly-pandemic-sets-stage-for-globalist-takeover/

Due to the conflicting reports about the Coronavirus, it is difficult to discern the truth.

Mainstream media, and the establishment that props it up, has become so distrusted that a crisis of confidence is threatening to bring everything down.

Coronavirus is hitting the United States at a time of internal conflict and civil war at the highest levels of government.

What we can discern are a variety of mega-trends that at the very least point to a strong motive for a deliberate release of a man-made virus that could meet the goals of bad actors working against America and humanity at large.

At the very least – even if it turns out that mortality rates are low – Coronavirus is being used as a deadly economic and political weapon.

To begin, let’s take a look at some of the major trends and data points that have recently shaped the globe:

In 2017, the Pentagon initiated a study that assessed the threat of synthetic biology tech creating engineered biological weapons that are difficult to identify. As Wired magazine reported, this development “…could have implications for defensive strategies against a new type of bioweapon, potentially more difficult to identify because it resembles its “natural” counterpart.”

The fact that Coronavirus first appeared in China, an enemy of the United States, meant that the most authoritarian country on earth set the tone for how to respond to the outbreak, and initiated a coverup of the true nature of the virus.

Efforts to undermine President Trump’s successful presidency have so far failed. A persistent effort to sabotage both Trump and American success at large has been at work since before Trump was elected.

An overall move toward authoritarian globalism worldwide is meeting resistance. Populist movements are angering elites.

The medical industrial complex is experiencing a crisis of confidence, as revealed by recent comments from top scientists at the WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit.

A pro-human philosophy for the future of mankind is gaining a foothold, threatening a long-established plan for technocratic rule.

Coronavirus is appearing at a critical point in human development. The technological revolution has the potential to lift up all of mankind, while overall confidence in the establishment is at an all time low as governments struggle to contain “empowered individuals“.

What better way to counter every single one of these developments than to release a pandemic virus on the globe?

When threatened with the prospect of a deadly virus, unprepared humans will quickly abandon any kind of morality or higher values in pursuit of the common good.

Deep state operatives (like George Soros) have already made moves to destabilize the United States.

Democrats have hoped for a global economic crisis to stop Trump from winning in 2020.

President Trump’s perceived inaction can be used against him if the virus is reported to be community spread on a large scale in the US.

Authoritarian rule, including Big Tech censorship of online speech, could be justified as a means to control the population.

The medical establishment can make a comeback with a vaccine to save the world from Coronavirus, utilizing the same synthetic biology technology that may have been used to create the virus.

The best response that informed individuals can take is to prepare as best we can while continuing to practice and promote virtues of freedom, self reliance, and Judeo Christian values that sustained the west during times of hardship in the past.

Make no mistake, America and Trump’s response could shape history.


I would not be surprised if Soros is scared shitless right now because he is in the age group that Coronavirus can kill

Not the ending that he was expecting.
Title: Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on March 21, 2020, 04:45:40 AM
Goodrum has been very quiet lately. He is probably stocking up on gold bars and hiding out in a bunker.
Title: Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
Post by: Stanly on March 21, 2020, 05:06:03 AM
Title: Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
Post by: Darren Avey on March 21, 2020, 05:19:33 AM
And yet another MENSA candidate from Getbig.com enlightens us with special insider information on what's really going down.

Shut up gimmick. This guy has a point
Title: Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
Post by: DooM_ on March 21, 2020, 06:29:35 AM
Nah, it’s being used as cover for an economic reset. Notice the hotspot is Italy. Their debt to GDP is twice that of Germany, and is about to go into recession. China is slowing down too. That’s why oil prices have crashed. Less demand going forward. Russia and Saudi Arabia are China’s biggest oil suppliers.

Over playing this virus provides a pretext for the European central bank to inflate the currency and keep this failing European Union experiment, which isn’t working for anyone, at this point, alive for a bit longer.

Trump has to play along otherwise the dollar would skyrocket in value and make American exports less attractive. Even with the feds’ dramatic interventions, the dollar has increased versus the euro.


Follow the money. It’ll always lead you to the promised land.

already happening
Title: Coronavirus - Hoax! Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 21, 2020, 10:01:21 AM
Alll a HOAX folks

Even the Health Minister of Italy says over 99 percent of the deaths have nothing to do with any supposed Corona.

America has shut down its nation of over 300+ million BASED UPON LIES OF CORONA... even though its excuse for doing so was the supposed 100 deaths due to Corona.

In the mean time this past winter in the US... over 40,000 people DIED WITH THE FLU and at no time were businesses shut down or people told to stay 6 feet from one another or theatres/bars/nightclubs/gyms/markets/manufacturing plants etc CLOSED DOWN or any panic/hysteria caused...




Italy Coronavirus: New explosive information Mar
19

by Jon Rappoport

March 19, 2020


A very brief update. Read this carefully. Many people who were diagnosed as “coronavirus cases” in Italy, and then died, were almost certainly put on antiviral drugs. As you’ll see, below, a significant percentage of these people had prior heart conditions or high blood pressure. But at least one of the antiviral drugs, called ribavirin, carries this VERY RELEVANT warning, from cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.” High blood pressure is a circulatory problem. Understand? Get it? LIFE-THREATENING. So how many coronavirus patients have been killed by the administering of ribavirin?

And with THAT, let’s jump in…because there’s more. Much more.

For those people who have any belief in the coronavirus…

Here’s the basic situation: the Italian health agencies are reporting escalating COV deaths—big fear-story out front…

But in the background, other Italian government researchers are combing through patient records, to take a much closer look…to see whether people are dying from the virus or other more obvious causes.

Are people dying coincidentally WITH the virus, or BECAUSE OF the virus? Is the virus a mere harmless passenger in the body, or is it the driving force?

The Italian results are astonishing, to understate it by a mile.

Bloomberg News has the story: 3/18, “99 percent of those whose died from virus had other illness, Italy says”:

“More than 99% [!] of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”

“The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities [so far, because it’s slow work], finding that just three victims [!!], or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology [disease]. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.”

“More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.”

“The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5 [!!!]. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”

BANG.

Average age of those who’ve died: 79.5. Are you kidding? Lots of prior medical conditions, weakened immune systems, and what this emerging study isn’t saying: all these people had obviously been treated for those prior conditions with toxic medical drugs. Furthermore, once they’d been diagnosed with coronavirus, chances are many of them were put on highly toxic antiviral drugs. Thus delivering the final blow.

Imagining the coronavirus was the CAUSE of death would be a ridiculous fantasy. But these people are counted as “coronavirus deaths” by the other Italian reporting agencies, who are jacking up the numbers.

Does this remind you of any other reports I’ve been detailing? The elderly people with obvious prior diseases who died in Australia; and the elderly people who were diagnosed as coronavirus cases in the state of Washington—all living in a long-term-care nursing home?

Getting the picture? This death-numbers con—aside from covering up the real causes of death, including MEDICAL—is the forward spear being used to justify locking down and wrecking economies all over the world right now, and that means attacking the people in any way connected to those economies who have to work to make a living.

There are statistical vampires at work, using the elderly and sick and dying to feed numbers to health agencies around the planet. Those agencies tap their press contacts, and horror reports emerge, and the unsuspecting public, in economic lockdowns, sit in front of the tube and watch these reports, and inhale the cooked-up fear.

Turn your mind to the highest setting, because nothing is riding on this whole deal except the immediate future of humanity.

And again, cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.”

The Matrix Revealed

(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.


https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/19/italy-coronavirus-new-explosive-information/
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2020, 10:07:59 AM
SAMSON = infectious disease doctor, epidemiologist, and journalist.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Dave D on March 21, 2020, 10:10:21 AM
Samsung where is this info coming from?

We have members from Italy saying it’s not a hoax.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: liberty on March 21, 2020, 10:14:21 AM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-lombardy/coronavirus-death-toll-in-italys-lombardy-jumps-by-546-in-a-day-idUSKBN2180S1 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-lombardy/coronavirus-death-toll-in-italys-lombardy-jumps-by-546-in-a-day-idUSKBN2180S1)
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: funk51 on March 21, 2020, 10:16:27 AM
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Army of One on March 21, 2020, 10:18:08 AM
SAMSON, Send this article to these guys!!!



Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Army of One on March 21, 2020, 10:25:48 AM
Another 800 died in Italy in the last 24 hours.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: friedchickendinner on March 21, 2020, 10:27:43 AM
Imagine the amount of crack SAMSON123 is smoking per day

It's like he raided a whole crack house by himself
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: liberty on March 21, 2020, 10:29:59 AM
https://www.facebook.com/mina.petrone.1/videos/1368735043301221/UzpfSTEwMDAwMzIxMTc2MTQwNjoyNzkxNTkzODQ3NjI0MzEz/ (https://www.facebook.com/mina.petrone.1/videos/1368735043301221/UzpfSTEwMDAwMzIxMTc2MTQwNjoyNzkxNTkzODQ3NjI0MzEz/)
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: D.O.A. on March 21, 2020, 10:34:49 AM
SAMSON = infectious disease doctor, epidemiologist, and journalist.
Thank god we have SF1900 on our side. 8) Your contribution is highly appreciated.
I feel so much safer knowing you watch over this forum and give expert opinions on conspiracy theories.
How is Rory holding up in times like this?
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 21, 2020, 10:36:04 AM
SAMSON = infectious disease doctor, epidemiologist, and journalist.


Not really.... JUST AN EXPOSER OF TRUTH
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 21, 2020, 10:37:28 AM
Samsung where is this info coming from?

We have members from Italy saying it’s not a hoax.


Didn't you read the article?

The names and institutes are cleanly cited in it
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Dave D on March 21, 2020, 10:43:33 AM

Didn't you read the article?

The names and institutes are cleanly cited in it

Not really.

I’m on a lockdown, so I don’t really have the time.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 21, 2020, 10:44:13 AM



I'm only Russian on the weekends...
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: joswift on March 21, 2020, 10:45:04 AM
Samsung where is this info coming from?

We have members from Italy saying it’s not a hoax.
we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: liberty on March 21, 2020, 10:45:55 AM
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Dave D on March 21, 2020, 10:48:01 AM
we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...

Joswift, I would have thought you, of all people, would heed Italian lifters advice. This is either a hoax or it’s not. But if it is where are all the bodies coming from?
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Primemuscle on March 21, 2020, 10:48:55 AM
Alll a HOAX folks

Even the Health Minister of Italy says over 99 percent of the deaths have nothing to do with any supposed Corona.

America has shut down its nation of over 300+ million BASED UPON LIES OF CORONA... even though its excuse for doing so was the supposed 100 deaths due to Corona.

In the mean time this past winter in the US... over 40,000 people DIED WITH THE FLU and at no time were businesses shut down or people told to stay 6 feet from one another or theatres/bars/nightclubs/gyms/markets/manufacturing plants etc CLOSED DOWN or any panic/hysteria caused...




Italy Coronavirus: New explosive information Mar
19

by Jon Rappoport

March 19, 2020


A very brief update. Read this carefully. Many people who were diagnosed as “coronavirus cases” in Italy, and then died, were almost certainly put on antiviral drugs. As you’ll see, below, a significant percentage of these people had prior heart conditions or high blood pressure. But at least one of the antiviral drugs, called ribavirin, carries this VERY RELEVANT warning, from cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.” High blood pressure is a circulatory problem. Understand? Get it? LIFE-THREATENING. So how many coronavirus patients have been killed by the administering of ribavirin?

And with THAT, let’s jump in…because there’s more. Much more.

For those people who have any belief in the coronavirus…

Here’s the basic situation: the Italian health agencies are reporting escalating COV deaths—big fear-story out front…

But in the background, other Italian government researchers are combing through patient records, to take a much closer look…to see whether people are dying from the virus or other more obvious causes.

Are people dying coincidentally WITH the virus, or BECAUSE OF the virus? Is the virus a mere harmless passenger in the body, or is it the driving force?

The Italian results are astonishing, to understate it by a mile.

Bloomberg News has the story: 3/18, “99 percent of those whose died from virus had other illness, Italy says”:

“More than 99% [!] of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”

“The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities [so far, because it’s slow work], finding that just three victims [!!], or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology [disease]. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.”

“More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.”

“The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5 [!!!]. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”

BANG.

Average age of those who’ve died: 79.5. Are you kidding? Lots of prior medical conditions, weakened immune systems, and what this emerging study isn’t saying: all these people had obviously been treated for those prior conditions with toxic medical drugs. Furthermore, once they’d been diagnosed with coronavirus, chances are many of them were put on highly toxic antiviral drugs. Thus delivering the final blow.

Imagining the coronavirus was the CAUSE of death would be a ridiculous fantasy. But these people are counted as “coronavirus deaths” by the other Italian reporting agencies, who are jacking up the numbers.

Does this remind you of any other reports I’ve been detailing? The elderly people with obvious prior diseases who died in Australia; and the elderly people who were diagnosed as coronavirus cases in the state of Washington—all living in a long-term-care nursing home?

Getting the picture? This death-numbers con—aside from covering up the real causes of death, including MEDICAL—is the forward spear being used to justify locking down and wrecking economies all over the world right now, and that means attacking the people in any way connected to those economies who have to work to make a living.

There are statistical vampires at work, using the elderly and sick and dying to feed numbers to health agencies around the planet. Those agencies tap their press contacts, and horror reports emerge, and the unsuspecting public, in economic lockdowns, sit in front of the tube and watch these reports, and inhale the cooked-up fear.

Turn your mind to the highest setting, because nothing is riding on this whole deal except the immediate future of humanity.

And again, cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.”

The Matrix Revealed

(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.


https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/19/italy-coronavirus-new-explosive-information/

The United States is just one of many countries that are having a dramatic response to COVID-19 by shutting down and limiting exposure. Is it a worldwide hoax? That is highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2020, 10:53:12 AM
Thank god we have SF1900 on our side. 8) Your contribution is highly appreciated.
I feel so much safer knowing you watch over this forum and give expert opinions on conspiracy theories.
How is Rory holding up in times like this?

Thank you for the kind words, DOA!!

Rory and I are not allowed back to work for at least two weeks. The good thing, is I will still be getting paid!

We are cuddling while watching Netflix. During these difficult times, we must all rely on the people close to us.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2020, 10:54:46 AM

Not really.... JUST AN EXPOSER OF TRUTH

Obviously, one youtube video has clearly exposed the whole truth.

Good job!
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: The Italian Lifter on March 21, 2020, 11:28:34 AM
we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...

My post was not an attention whore one (me and my family have far greater concerns than a message board).
The idea was to be of any help in understanding how this can evolve if underestimated. That's all.
I post here once every few months so I don't need to become a "getbig influencer".

To the guy with family in Lodi I really wish them and to him all the best, really, no animosity from my part.
Check the online maps and see how fast is moving south, but I'm sure they already know.

The piling up of dead people is the norm now: of course they are sent to the graveyard but considering the big numbers it takes time, luckily Italy it's not Iran where they are disposed in fields outside the city.

To the question if I know someone who died of covid19 the answer it's sadly yes: I lost two close relatives (aged 64 and 70) so yes it affects more elderly people.
But I also lost three good friends (they were younger: 48, 57 and 65).

In roughly 10 to 15 days they were gone.

Dear Royalty: be safe and take care, you didn't have the opportunity to meet Carlo, Francesca and Pietro, but they were full of life and loving, decent people.
I bet if they could speak to you, they would say not underestimate the situation and avoid close contact with people.

This is from the beginning the goal of this post.

Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: joswift on March 21, 2020, 11:55:24 AM


I quote Ilaiain and mixed you two up, apologies...
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Stanly on March 21, 2020, 12:14:37 PM
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: ilalin on March 21, 2020, 12:26:09 PM
Alll a HOAX folks

Even the Health Minister of Italy says over 99 percent of the deaths have nothing to do with any supposed Corona.

America has shut down its nation of over 300+ million BASED UPON LIES OF CORONA... even though its excuse for doing so was the supposed 100 deaths due to Corona.

In the mean time this past winter in the US... over 40,000 people DIED WITH THE FLU and at no time were businesses shut down or people told to stay 6 feet from one another or theatres/bars/nightclubs/gyms/markets/manufacturing plants etc CLOSED DOWN or any panic/hysteria caused...




Italy Coronavirus: New explosive information Mar
19

by Jon Rappoport

March 19, 2020


A very brief update. Read this carefully. Many people who were diagnosed as “coronavirus cases” in Italy, and then died, were almost certainly put on antiviral drugs. As you’ll see, below, a significant percentage of these people had prior heart conditions or high blood pressure. But at least one of the antiviral drugs, called ribavirin, carries this VERY RELEVANT warning, from cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.” High blood pressure is a circulatory problem. Understand? Get it? LIFE-THREATENING. So how many coronavirus patients have been killed by the administering of ribavirin?

And with THAT, let’s jump in…because there’s more. Much more.

For those people who have any belief in the coronavirus…

Here’s the basic situation: the Italian health agencies are reporting escalating COV deaths—big fear-story out front…

But in the background, other Italian government researchers are combing through patient records, to take a much closer look…to see whether people are dying from the virus or other more obvious causes.

Are people dying coincidentally WITH the virus, or BECAUSE OF the virus? Is the virus a mere harmless passenger in the body, or is it the driving force?

The Italian results are astonishing, to understate it by a mile.

Bloomberg News has the story: 3/18, “99 percent of those whose died from virus had other illness, Italy says”:

“More than 99% [!] of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”

“The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities [so far, because it’s slow work], finding that just three victims [!!], or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology [disease]. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.”

“More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.”

“The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5 [!!!]. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”

BANG.

Average age of those who’ve died: 79.5. Are you kidding? Lots of prior medical conditions, weakened immune systems, and what this emerging study isn’t saying: all these people had obviously been treated for those prior conditions with toxic medical drugs. Furthermore, once they’d been diagnosed with coronavirus, chances are many of them were put on highly toxic antiviral drugs. Thus delivering the final blow.

Imagining the coronavirus was the CAUSE of death would be a ridiculous fantasy. But these people are counted as “coronavirus deaths” by the other Italian reporting agencies, who are jacking up the numbers.

Does this remind you of any other reports I’ve been detailing? The elderly people with obvious prior diseases who died in Australia; and the elderly people who were diagnosed as coronavirus cases in the state of Washington—all living in a long-term-care nursing home?

Getting the picture? This death-numbers con—aside from covering up the real causes of death, including MEDICAL—is the forward spear being used to justify locking down and wrecking economies all over the world right now, and that means attacking the people in any way connected to those economies who have to work to make a living.

There are statistical vampires at work, using the elderly and sick and dying to feed numbers to health agencies around the planet. Those agencies tap their press contacts, and horror reports emerge, and the unsuspecting public, in economic lockdowns, sit in front of the tube and watch these reports, and inhale the cooked-up fear.

Turn your mind to the highest setting, because nothing is riding on this whole deal except the immediate future of humanity.

And again, cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.”

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https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/19/italy-coronavirus-new-explosive-information/

I'll read this fairy-tale to my kids before bed, so they can fall asleep faster.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 01:07:45 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Mothballs on March 21, 2020, 01:27:57 PM
In the end, most people will believe what they WANT to be true.

If you’re a lifeless sheep who counts on the all knowing and wise government to tell you how to live then you’re likely to believe big government.

If you’re a conspiracy lunatic inclined to believe a 17 year old high school dropout who has YouTube solved so many Hillary Clinton murders he can retire from Scotland Yard by 18, you’ll probably believe anyone OVER the official party line.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 21, 2020, 01:35:36 PM
In the end, most people will believe what they WANT to be true.

If you’re a lifeless sheep who counts on the all knowing and wise government to tell you how to live then you’re likely to believe big government.

If you’re a conspiracy lunatic inclined to believe a 17 year old high school dropout who has YouTube solved so many Hillary Clinton murders he can retire from Scotland Yard by 18, you’ll probably believe anyone OVER the official party line.


Would this not give a reasonable answer to the “Why Italy” question?


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)

Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 01:42:20 PM
I kinda suspected it was all a hoax, now I know, ty Op
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Randomum on March 21, 2020, 02:00:28 PM

Would this not give a reasonable answer to the “Why Italy” question?


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)

Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.

Great find. I wonder why though, it shows data to support that they are dying at higher rates even from influenza. Any theories?
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 02:14:24 PM
Today, an officer at worked sneezed twice, I inhaled
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Ropo on March 21, 2020, 02:19:16 PM

Alll a HOAX folks


Says the moron, because he find some "taken out of the context" reading from the foil hat web site? I have some news to you: Evidences points strongly to one direction: If you are smoker, using evaporator, you have overweight, diabetes, high blood pressure, or any fking condition before the covid 19 virus, you have great chance to lose your life IF YOU GET THE VIRUS.

If you are fresh born healthy little baby, you have good chance to live. In all other circumstances it is best for you if you just play by the rules, obey orders, stay at home etc.

USA is going to overtake China to the list of the most infected countries, so it doesn't harm you at any way, if you take these precautions seriously..
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 02:22:57 PM
One has to be foolish to believe in the coronavirus
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Jizmonkey on March 21, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
Some dumb people on this site.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Dave D on March 21, 2020, 02:29:36 PM
Says the moron, because he find some "taken out of the context" reading from the foil hat web site? I have some news to you: Evidences points strongly to one direction: If you are smoker, using evaporator, you have overweight, diabetes, high blood pressure, or any fking condition before the covid 19 virus, you have great chance to lose your life IF YOU GET THE VIRUS.

If you are fresh born healthy little baby, you have good chance to live. In all other circumstances it is best for you if you just play by the rules, obey orders, stay at home etc.

USA is going to overtake China to the list of the most infected countries, so it doesn't harm you at any way, if you take these precautions seriously..

Ropo I agree with your take.

However we know that the homeless in San Francisco have been exposed to the virus (the was a death the first week of March), why do you think it hasn’t exploded in that sector yet? The homeless would seem to be the perfect community to be a carrier and experience high death numbers.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: thebrink on March 21, 2020, 02:35:13 PM
In the end, most people will believe what they WANT to be true.

If you’re a lifeless sheep who counts on the all knowing and wise government to tell you how to live then you’re likely to believe big government.

If you’re a conspiracy lunatic inclined to believe a 17 year old high school dropout who has YouTube solved so many Hillary Clinton murders he can retire from Scotland Yard by 18, you’ll probably believe anyone OVER the official party line.

What's the official party line? CNN?? 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: thebrink on March 21, 2020, 02:37:43 PM
Some dumb people on this site.

Well where do you get YOUR information from...? Just curious..
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Ropo on March 21, 2020, 02:45:18 PM
Ropo I agree with your take.

However we know that the homeless in San Francisco have been exposed to the virus (the was a death the first week of March), why do you think it hasn’t exploded in that sector yet? The homeless would seem to be the perfect community to be a carrier and experience high death numbers.

Where did I say so? Do you have some kind of organisation, who counts sick homeless people, or how do you get the knowledge about the situation among them? If police etc. find a dead homeless guy, will there be an autopsy, or do they just kick him in the hole on the ground? An how do you know how many is in that hole already? Homeless people of the US are like flies, if some of them will die, no one will know..
Title: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: BB on March 21, 2020, 02:52:17 PM
Newark, NJ, warm Friday night, Coronavirus in full swing -

www.instagram.com/p/B9-X8dUAIup/ .

(Comments are fun too).
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 02:54:52 PM
It was all a hoax, smh
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 21, 2020, 02:59:40 PM
Great find. I wonder why though, it shows data to support that they are dying at higher rates even from influenza. Any theories?

I wondered about that myself.



My guess it’s behavioral. Combination of obesity and cigarette smoking making them vulnerable to sickness.

There was an old Italian woman in Jersey who supposedly died of corona. The woman was a house.
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: BB on March 21, 2020, 03:04:26 PM
Update - When they catch you, and make you apologize :( -

www.instagram.com/p/B-ATCiWBmCT/ .
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 03:09:59 PM
Coronavirus is a hoax
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 03:13:10 PM
Do not believe in the media! Gosh!
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: liberty on March 21, 2020, 03:22:07 PM
Yuh its a hoax...

Italy recorded a jump in deaths from coronavirus of almost 800 on Saturday.
Italy’s fatalities jumped by 793 to 4,825 in their largest one-day rise since the contagion emerged a month ago.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy/italy-deaths-jump-by-almost-800-from-coronavirus-idUSKBN21811C (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy/italy-deaths-jump-by-almost-800-from-coronavirus-idUSKBN21811C)
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on March 21, 2020, 03:24:45 PM
That's the first group of "people" that'll be crying like bitches. "We're dying in the streets. They don't care about us because we're poor." Eat a cock
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 03:26:49 PM
Do not believe the media
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 03:55:38 PM
Don't believe the lies!
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Jizmonkey on March 21, 2020, 04:01:10 PM
Well where do you get YOUR information from...? Just curious..
Scientists would be a start.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: liberty on March 21, 2020, 04:05:09 PM
pasmith is either a pencil neck punk ass shit stirrer or a dumb fuck......place your bets
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 21, 2020, 04:06:22 PM
Imagine the amount of crack SAMSON123 is smoking per day

It's like he raided a whole crack house by himself


NONE....
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Fortress on March 21, 2020, 04:09:51 PM
I don’t think it’s a hoax, per se, but I think it is very possibly intentional ... and being “weaponized” to serve political ends.

I’m not terribly concerned. I don’t know a soul who has it and daily I’m surrounded by very vulnerable and “exposed” folks.

In a broad sense, I do believe it’s a work.

Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: joswift on March 21, 2020, 04:20:28 PM
That's because the flu is a hoax. If over 40,000 people die from the flu, how come you never read about anyone famous dying from the flu in the newspapers? How many people do you personally know that died from the flu, if so many die?

The coronavirus exposed the big flu numbers hoax, we can see the exact coronavirus numbers updated daily, and the effect it has on the hospitals. Why aren't the hospitals overflowing with flu patients if there are so many? Why aren't coffins of flu victims piling up in churches?



Coronavirus is real, the flu is a hoax!!! Wake up sheeple!


its because they put Pnuemonia as the cause of death
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 04:23:53 PM
That's because the flu is a hoax. If over 40,000 people die from the flu, how come you never read about anyone famous dying from the flu in the newspapers? How many people do you personally know that died from the flu, if so many die?

The coronavirus exposed the big flu numbers hoax, we can see the exact coronavirus numbers updated daily, and the effect it has on the hospitals. Why aren't the hospitals overflowing with flu patients if there are so many? Why aren't coffins of flu victims piling up in churches?



Coronavirus is real, the flu is a hoax!!! Wake up sheeple!

The flu is real, the coronavirus is a hoax
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: el numero uno on March 21, 2020, 04:30:14 PM

Would this not give a reasonable answer to the “Why Italy” question?


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)

Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.

I wonder how is possible to look at data that proves you wrong and somehow draw a completely different conclusion.

The mortality rate per 100,000 was between 11.6 - 41.2. That's 1 - 4 in 10,000.

Coronavirus mortality rate is around 1 in 100.

But yeah, people are overreacting. ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2020, 04:31:30 PM
So, now that getbiggers proved its a hoax, what do we do now?

What are the next steps, other than posting on getbig about it?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 04:42:37 PM
So, now that getbiggers proved its a hoax, what do we do now?

What are the next steps, other than posting on getbig about it?
Stop washing your hands every 5 minutes, once a day is enough
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: IronMagazine.com on March 21, 2020, 04:50:25 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2020, 04:50:49 PM
Stop washing your hands every 5 minutes, once a day is enough

Phew, major news!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: che on March 21, 2020, 05:01:56 PM
:o

I hope he gets the virus and die
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: pamith on March 21, 2020, 06:09:33 PM
Phew, major news!
Also, running out of tp is not the end of the world, you can go a year without wiping
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 21, 2020, 06:37:12 PM
I wonder how is possible to look at data that proves you wrong and somehow draw a completely different conclusion.

The mortality rate per 100,000 was between 11.6 - 41.2. That's 1 - 4 in 10,000.

Coronavirus mortality rate is around 1 in 100.

But yeah, people are overreacting. ::)


I believe it’s two different types of statistics. The 1 in 100 would be one out of 100 cases. The 11.6 would be per 100,000 people. That’s the way I read it.

Your interpretation doesn’t make sense. It would mean that were more cases than there were people in Italy. 20k/11.6 x 100k.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: SF1900 on March 21, 2020, 06:43:08 PM
Also, running out of tp is not the end of the world, you can go a year without wiping

How are you going to stop this globalist hoax?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Army of One on March 21, 2020, 06:50:20 PM
Pulling further and further ahead of daily deaths from seasonal flu.What are all you naysayers going to say when it's the biggest killer in the world within the month?
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: harmankardon1 on March 21, 2020, 08:13:54 PM
we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...

Lol we are all experts and have on the ground "contacts" here at getbig...
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Kwon on March 21, 2020, 08:17:46 PM
Lol we are all experts and have on the ground "contacts" here at getbig...

Well i am no expert, but i have a lot of people on the ground in several of the afflicted countries reporting to me.

I'd say they are the experts, not me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: el numero uno on March 21, 2020, 08:18:31 PM

I believe it’s two different types of statistics. The 1 in 100 would be one out of 100 cases. The 11.6 would be per 100,000 people. That’s the way I read it.

Your interpretation doesn’t make sense. It would mean that were more cases than there were people in Italy. 20k/11.6 x 100k.

Fair enough, I didn't catch that.

Yeah, the mortality rate among people (not cases) was between 11.6 and 41.2 in 100k.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: harmankardon1 on March 21, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
Pulling further and further ahead of daily deaths from seasonal flu.What are all you naysayers going to say when it's the biggest killer in the world within the month?

So the respiratory virus that is always there (flu) that nobody worries about has just managed to be overtaken by the respiratory virus that the world has been shut down over....
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Bevo on March 21, 2020, 08:32:06 PM
I hope he gets the virus and die

He already is dying...
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: harmankardon1 on March 21, 2020, 08:42:28 PM
Lol what a retard.....
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Notomorrow on March 21, 2020, 09:06:53 PM
Whether Corona was a hoax or not, the 1% will make a ton of money based on the drop in the market. They have the bucks to just wait this out, so they sold large amounts of shares and moved into conservative investments, then just wait until it's handled one way or another and make a fortune on the rebound. It's quite easy given they know the exact cause of the market drop. No speculation or trends.
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: IroNat on March 22, 2020, 04:22:02 AM
Hilarious.

"Did it for the 'gram."
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: The_Punisher on March 22, 2020, 05:13:01 AM
the best way to find out if it's a hoax is to contract it and then see the outcome... ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2020, 05:33:33 AM
I wonder how is possible to look at data that proves you wrong and somehow draw a completely different conclusion.

The mortality rate per 100,000 was between 11.6 - 41.2. That's 1 - 4 in 10,000.

Coronavirus mortality rate is around 1 in 100.

But yeah, people are overreacting. ::)

Here you go Dawg. Mortality rate for the regular flu exactly the same as corona, I’ll take your retraction anytime now.


Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons) - International Journal of Infectious Diseases


https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext

In recent years, Italy has been registering peaks in death rates, particularly among the elderly during the winter season. A mortality rate of 10.7 per 1,000
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2020, 05:47:54 AM
Whether Corona was a hoax or not, the 1% will make a ton of money based on the drop in the market. They have the bucks to just wait this out, so they sold large amounts of shares and moved into conservative investments, then just wait until it's handled one way or another and make a fortune on the rebound. It's quite easy given they know the exact cause of the market drop. No speculation or trends.

I believe hoax is the wrong term. They exploited a problem to cover up the bursting of a credit bubble and the subsequent money printing to paper it over. There have been people calling for the collapse of China because of their top down, state run banking system for many years, most notably Gordon Chang. Gordon just underestimated the time it would take. They’ve been continually making bad investments and have to print more money to cover it up.

Europe and the United States with their own problems essentially have no choice but to do the same. That’s what we’re seeing now. That’s why oil collapsed. China’s two biggest oil suppliers, Russia and Saudi Arabia know that demand is going to slow and they’re engaged in a price war to maintain their piece of the action.

You have to be pretty fucking naïve to think that all this is going on because of a flu outbreak that killed a few thousand people in a country with 1 billion.

And if anybody wants to call me a conspiracy theorist, look at the Jeffrey Epstein thread. I was one of the few people who said that he probably did kill himself. No self-respecting conspiracy theorist would ever say something like that.😁
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: Kwon on March 22, 2020, 06:17:05 AM
the best way to find out if it's a hoax is to contract it and then see the outcome... ;)

Yes, something that all hoaxbelievers should :D
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2020, 06:44:24 AM
Yuh its a hoax...

Italy recorded a jump in deaths from coronavirus of almost 800 on Saturday.
Italy’s fatalities jumped by 793 to 4,825 in their largest one-day rise since the contagion emerged a month ago.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy/italy-deaths-jump-by-almost-800-from-coronavirus-idUSKBN21811C (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy/italy-deaths-jump-by-almost-800-from-coronavirus-idUSKBN21811C)

If you read the whole story, you’ll discover what this really is about:


“Italy’s failure to reduce its huge debt of 134% of gross domestic product would normally have drawn a rebuke from the EU executive, but von der Leyen said there were now other priorities.

“The Italian government will be able to put as much money into the economy as needed. Normal budget rules, debt rules for example, will not be applied at this stage,” she said.”
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: harmankardon1 on March 22, 2020, 07:13:23 AM
I believe hoax is the wrong term. They exploited a problem to cover up the bursting of a credit bubble and the subsequent money printing to paper it over. There have been people calling for the collapse of China because of their top down, state run banking system for many years, most notably Gordon Chang. Gordon just underestimated the time it would take. They’ve been continually making bad investments and have to print more money to cover it up.

Europe and the United States with their own problems essentially have no choice but to do the same. That’s what we’re seeing now. That’s why oil collapsed. China’s two biggest oil suppliers, Russia and Saudi Arabia know that demand is going to slow and they’re engaged in a price war to maintain their piece of the action.

You have to be pretty fucking naïve to think that all this is going on because of a flu outbreak that killed a few thousand people in a country with 1 billion.

And if anybody wants to call me a conspiracy theorist, look at the Jeffrey Epstein thread. I was one of the few people who said that he probably did kill himself. No self-respecting conspiracy theorist would ever say something like that.😁


I believe the virus is real as you say but is there exploitation of a situation going on? It's such a crazy situation you can't help but think conspiracies, who the fuck knows.....

Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: Taffin on March 22, 2020, 07:15:27 AM
That's the first group of "people" that'll be crying like bitches. "We're dying in the streets. They don't care about us because we're poor." Eat a cock

Wait - is that CDC/WHO advice to protect yourself..?











 ;D
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 22, 2020, 07:16:42 AM
the best way to find out if it's a hoax is to contract it and then see the outcome... ;)

Yes, just ask tbombz.

Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: mac33 on March 22, 2020, 07:16:42 AM
Surprisingly, there is no talk of economically punishing China for its actions against the safety and economical downfall of countries all over the globe, especially since they knew and covered up the disease eruption at start.

It also benefited them tremendously in terms of stopping any protests expanding from Hong Kong to mainland and they were able to introduce severe censorship, restrictions and surveillance on their populace.

They are literally getting away with murder...
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2020, 07:24:41 AM
I believe the virus is real as you say but is there exploitation of a situation going on? It's such a crazy situation you can't help but think conspiracies, who the fuck knows.....



There is a huge financial incentive to make this seem really bad. Where I am in New York City, the mayor and the governor were very blasé about this whole thing. Both were very reluctant to close public schools and didn’t do so until the second week in March.  Then they got the memo  that there was gonna be a massive stimulus package. At that point, Corona became the worst thing in the world and nobody can come within six feet of each other:


Stimulus package could top $2 trillion as negotiators look to clear final major hurdles - CNNPolitics


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/21/politics/stimulus-package-negotiations-congress-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: el numero uno on March 22, 2020, 07:57:56 AM
Here you go Dawg. Mortality rate for the regular flu exactly the same as corona, I’ll take your retraction anytime now.

Not in Italy. Current mortality rate for Coronavirus is around 9% in Italy. In the study you cited flu mortality rate is less than 1% (on average).

Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2020, 08:19:59 AM
Not in Italy. Current mortality rate for Coronavirus is around 9% in Italy. In the study you cited flu mortality rate is less than 1% (on average).



Are regular flu and corona mutually exclusive? If not, that means somebody could have both. Right? How do you determine which one killed you?  You seem like a pretty statistically savvy guy. Then you know how statistics can be fucked with. According to the Bloomberg story posted here, 99% of the people with Corona had another underlying illness. Could that underlying illness be the flu?

The point is that Italy has always had an abnormally high rate of flu. So it shouldn’t be a surprise that they are the hardest hit country.

A stat I would be interested in hearing about is how their overall flu statistics compare to previous years.
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: The Scott on March 22, 2020, 08:26:04 AM
Newark, NJ, warm Friday night, Coronavirus in full swing -

www.instagram.com/p/B9-X8dUAIup/ .

(Comments are fun too).

Not even Dr. Dolittle could translate that.  These kids need to learn to speak and behave as adults.  That goes for all people of every shade of humanity. :-\ :-[
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: IroNat on March 22, 2020, 08:27:08 AM
The Scott!
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: Bevo on March 22, 2020, 08:28:40 AM
Do not believe the media

You are a retard
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: el numero uno on March 22, 2020, 08:48:03 AM
Are regular flu and corona mutually exclusive? If not, that means somebody could have both. Right? How do you determine which one killed you?  You seem like a pretty statistically savvy guy. Then you know how statistics can be fucked with. According to the Bloomberg story posted here, 99% of the people with Corona had another underlying illness. Could that underlying illness be the flu?

The point is that Italy has always had an abnormally high rate of flu. So it shouldn’t be a surprise that they are the hardest hit country.

A stat I would be interested in hearing about is how their overall flu statistics compare to previous years.

I don't know if people can have both.

No doubt Coronavirus mortality rate is inflated, since mostly severe cases are being tested. People with mild symptoms probably go unnoticed. The thing is, that may be true also for influenza.

For what is worth, Coronavirus seems to have a mortality rate around 10 times higher than influenza. That's pretty bad.

I feel like a lot of people are confusing regular colds with influenza, and thus underestimate this new disease.

All in all, I agree Italy is not a good example of what can happen in other countries, but I also think drastic measures should be take to stop this disease right in its tracks. However, those measures should be damped down after some weeks, since they're not sustainable.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Dave D on March 22, 2020, 09:24:05 AM
I don't know if people can have both.

No doubt Coronavirus mortality rate is inflated, since mostly severe cases are being tested. People with mild symptoms probably go unnoticed. The thing is, that may be true also for influenza.

For what is worth, Coronavirus seemsto have a mortality rate around 10 times higher than influenza. That's pretty bad.

I feel like a lot of people are confusing regular colds with influenza, and thus underestimate this new disease.

All in all, I agree Italy is not a good example of what can happen in other countries, but I also think drastic measures should be take to stop this disease right in its tracks. However, those measures should be damped down after some weeks, since they're not sustainable.

Seems is the key word. So far we have stats from China that, depending on what day it is,  are outright lies or grossly underreported. We have Italy, where the infected dying population already had an underlying illness. We have South Korea who allegedly have the disease under control.

Here in America we have health officials telling us to avoid hospitals unless it’s an emergency. We also have many carriers of the disease with zero symptoms. Supposedly we don’t have enough tests, but somehow every pro athlete and celebrity is able to get diagnosed.

When you say people are confusing the cold with influenza I ask why it matters? We have documented cases of those infected with Covid19 that show zero symptoms. That is worse than anything else. You have people who think this isnt serious because they had the virus with ZERO side effects.

So again SEEMS is the perfect word here, because what we know is incomplete at best and we seem to think we know everything.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: pamith on March 22, 2020, 09:55:11 AM
How are you going to stop this globalist hoax?
I can't do much, just have no fear and trust in Jesus, I believe things will get back to normal by 2021
Title: Re: Real Ni--as Don't Care About No Coronavirus, Take A Tylenol, It's Not Serious -
Post by: pamith on March 22, 2020, 09:57:55 AM
You are a retard
And you are so smart because you believe the media??...Ok... ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2020, 10:01:37 AM
Seems is the key word. So far we have stats from China that, depending on what day it is,  are outright lies or grossly underreported. We have Italy, where the infected dying population already had an underlying illness. We have South Korea who allegedly have the disease under control.

Here in America we have health officials telling us to avoid hospitals unless it’s an emergency. We also have many carriers of the disease with zero symptoms. Supposedly we don’t have enough tests, but somehow every pro athlete and celebrity is able to get diagnosed.

When you say people are confusing the cold with influenza I ask why it matters? We have documented cases of those infected with Covid19 that show zero symptoms. That is worse than anything else. You have people who think this isnt serious because they had the virus with ZERO side effects.

So again SEEMS is the perfect word here, because what we know is incomplete at best and we seem to think we know everything.


I recently listened to Ted Cruz’s podcast. As  a guest he had another Senator Tom Barrasso who is also a doctor. Apparently, the first test the CDC rolled out didn’t work so they had to scrap it. So we are supposed to assume that this test they’re using now is 100% accurate? And they were also bringing up the subject of people having the virus with no symptoms and whether they could spread it to another person who would then have symptoms. They didn’t know the answer. These are United States senators.There’s so much confusion it’s ridiculous and meanwhile we shut down the entire country.

That’s why I say there’s something else going on here.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: funk51 on March 22, 2020, 10:34:15 AM
grocery store still has bread. ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 22, 2020, 10:35:28 AM
grocery store still has bread. ;)

I’d get Corona to fuck that😰
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: tommywishbone on March 22, 2020, 10:38:15 AM
I’d get Corona to fuck that😰

I would get corona just to watch you fuck that.

Wait what?!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Dave D on March 22, 2020, 10:38:44 AM


I recently listened to Ted Cruz’s podcast. As  a guest he had another Senator Tom Barrasso who is also a doctor. Apparently, the first test the CDC rolled out didn’t work so they had to scrap it. So we are supposed to assume that this test they’re using now is 100% accurate? And they were also bringing up the subject of people having the virus with no symptoms and whether they could spread it to another person who would then have symptoms. They didn’t know the answer. These are United States senators.There’s so much confusion it’s ridiculous and meanwhile we shut down the entire country.

That’s why I say there’s something else going on here.

I agree with you.

Leadership, as a whole, has done a horrific job with this issue. As I’ve said numerous times on here, they’ve “shut down” states but you can still book a flight and fly in and out of any state. You have elected officials saying people won’t be evicted from homes and utilities won’t be shut off for lack of funds but no other information is given (and imagine if you’re a small property owner not a corporate mammoth). The economy  is more or less shut down and instead of someone  coming out and saying we were wrong about this here is why we are making these decisions they keep saying don’t worry we have this under control....

And don’t get me started on this virus already being exposed  to the homeless community from the very beginning and as of yet we haven’t seen their death rates skyrocket.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: pamith on March 22, 2020, 10:41:11 AM
Fear not, for God is with you always
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Taffin on March 24, 2020, 06:06:59 AM
I would get corona just to watch you fuck that.

Wait what?!


HAHAHAHAHAAAA!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on March 24, 2020, 05:30:06 PM
Could be BS, or maybe not?!  ;D

Coronavirus was likely deliberately released

https://www.newswars.com/deadly-pandemic-sets-stage-for-globalist-takeover/



Deep state operatives (like George Soros) have already made moves to destabilize the United States.

Democrats have hoped for a global economic crisis to stop Trump from winning in 2020.




ITALY is not the target , 'Deep State' plan is to destroy Christianity , target is The VATICAN !.

Current Mr.Pope is pro 'Deep State' supporter !.
Title: The Elizabeth Theory: Why I Don't Think It Can Be True
Post by: Al Doggity on March 24, 2020, 06:12:30 PM
The Elizabeth Theory: Why I Don't Think It Can Be True


In response to Thin Elizabeth's theory that the reaction to covid-19 is a smokescreen to devalue currency. I see that it's getting a lot of traction around here, so here's a comprehensive rundown on why I don't think it makes sense.

1. Trump has wanted to devalue the dollar for years and has been vocal about it. He has publicly feuded with the fed about taking steps to weaken the dollar.

2.There are actually transparent ways that the government can devalue US currency and they have been actively and openly exploring them for several weeks. The dollar has been surging in the face of the covid 19 issue. Because it's considered one of the safest assets in the world, a surging dollar harms the entire global economy. It's very rare for US to make a targeted intervention, but it has happened. Also, when it happens, it's coordinated with other countries' central banks. (China is unique in that it's central bank is not independent, which is the reason it can manipulate currency so easily.)

3.The strength of the dollar is not determined by how many are floating around, but by how badly people want them. China manipulates currency by accepting payment for goods in dollars,keeping that money in reserve, and paying workers/debtors with yuan that they print up like monopoly money. It drives  up the value of the dollar and makes chinese goods more affordable. But even if America just printed up 3 trillion and carpet bombed it on the international economy, everyone would still want it, especially now. It wouldn't weaken the dollar, it would strengthen it.


4.3 trillion is a lot of money, but it won't do shit to devalue the dollar. The strength of the dollar is measured a few different ways,
but pretty much all of them involve international exchange. Almost all of that good covid stimulus money is going to be circulated domestically.


Title: Re: The Elizabeth Theory: Why I Don't Think It Can Be True
Post by: friedchickendinner on March 24, 2020, 06:20:21 PM
Interesting

But answer me this, how much do you bench?
Title: Re: The Elizabeth Theory: Why I Don't Think It Can Be True
Post by: Methyl m1ke on March 24, 2020, 06:21:23 PM
I said this in another thread dude.
Title: Re: The Elizabeth Theory: Why I Don't Think It Can Be True
Post by: Al Doggity on March 24, 2020, 06:32:20 PM
Interesting

But answer me this, how much do you bench?

1500 lbs

I said this in another thread dude.

Sorry dude. This is original content.
Title: Re: The Elizabeth Theory: Why I Don't Think It Can Be True
Post by: Mayday on March 24, 2020, 07:58:48 PM
1. He is right. Devaluation of currency devalues debt as it inflates asset prices.

2. USD surges when liquidation in the market occurs without reinvestment. I guess it's how you interpret the movement but in crisis times it's a sign that something is broken and people are bailing out of assets. It's the result of something else going majorly wrong lf that makes sense. You will see the reverse when markets recover and USD value swings the reverse -GFC trended exactly this.

3. Read my point 2 above as your post skips that explanation which leads you to an incorrect conclusion. Printing devalues currency against assets and debt. We have thousands of years across empires that support this.  Historically, when shit starts to explode the empires begin to print because they have exhausted debt. The roman empire has a very good currency history to read about. Germany post war currency devaluation is also gokd.

US money supply is 20T. If you print 20% more, you devalue 20% against assets and debt assuming all things equal.
Title: Re: The Elizabeth Theory: Why I Don't Think It Can Be True
Post by: Al Doggity on March 24, 2020, 08:46:22 PM
1. He is right. Devaluation of currency devalues debt as it inflates asset prices.
But that doesn't happen when a currency's value doesn't drop.

Quote
3. Read my point 2 above as your post skips that explanation which leads you to an incorrect conclusion. Printing devalues currency against assets and debt. We have thousands of years across empires that support this.  Historically, when shit starts to explode the empires begin to print because they have exhausted debt. The roman empire has a very good currency history to read about. Germany post war currency devaluation is also gokd.

Then you either didn't read my post very closely or just misinterpreted it.  The second part doesn't apply here. Stimulus is not the result of debt being exhausted. It's a race to liquidity.

Quote

US money supply is 20T. If you print 20% more, you devalue 20% against assets and debt assuming all things equal.

Not at all. The size of a country's economy is not fixed.  Other than the fact that the fed adds and removes money on a constant basis, no world economy is tied to the gold standard, every economy grows and contracts based on business, trade, etc. The stability of an economy is essentially just how many people believe it to be stable.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: thebrink on March 25, 2020, 06:24:28 AM
I don’t think it’s a hoax, per se, but I think it is very possibly intentional ... and being “weaponized” to serve political ends.

I’m not terribly concerned. I don’t know a soul who has it and daily I’m surrounded by very vulnerable and “exposed” folks.

In a broad sense, I do believe it’s a work.



X2
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2020, 12:50:15 AM
There are even more loony tunes people on Getbig than I thought.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 26, 2020, 04:04:09 AM
There are even more loony tunes people on Getbig than I thought.



As this unfolds, the more you can see it’s the exact same playbook as the AIDS scare in the 1980s. A virus affects a very small subset of the population, with aids it was homosexuals, specifically those who took 20 cocks a night in gay bath houses, with corona, it’s extremely old people, specifically those who already had pre-existing health conditions. The threat is that virus will explode into the population as a whole. The end result, is an economic reset and a worldwide currency devaluation. If you remember, there was a stock market crash in 1987 at the height of the AIDS scare. The first Global AIDS day was 1988.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: B_B_C on March 26, 2020, 08:10:02 AM


As this unfolds, the more you can see it’s the exact same playbook as the AIDS scare in the 1980s. A virus affects a very small subset of the population, with aids it was homosexuals, specifically those who took 20 cocks a night in gay bath houses, with corona, it’s extremely old people, specifically those who already had pre-existing health conditions. The threat is that virus will explode into the population as a whole. The end result, is an economic reset and a worldwide currency devaluation. If you remember, there was a stock market crash in 1987 at the height of the AIDS scare. The first Global AIDS day was 1988.

more fake news for you
[url][https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/men-are-much-more-likely-to-die-from-coronavirus-but-why/url]


Men are much more likely to die from coronavirus - but why?

Trend has been replicated in all nations, but scientists cannot yet fathom the cause
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 26, 2020, 08:15:54 AM
more fake news for you
[url][https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/men-are-much-more-likely-to-die-from-coronavirus-but-why/url]


Men are much more likely to die from coronavirus - but why?

Trend has been replicated in all nations, but scientists cannot yet fathom the cause

Scientists don’t do common sense very well.

Could it be because men naturally don’t live as long as women and male behavior is more conducive to the most common reasons for death: cancer, heart disease, respiratory illnesses, and accidents?


That would actually be another similarity to the AIDS crisis. More men died of aids too.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: B_B_C on March 26, 2020, 10:02:52 AM
Scientists don’t do common sense very well.



indeed
common sense of the day held that
the earth was flat
that no one could get to the moon
that two planes would wreck havoc in NY
and that
Donald Trump would never be elected president
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 26, 2020, 10:47:06 AM
indeed
common sense of the day held that
the earth was flat
that no one could get to the moon
that two planes would wreck havoc in NY
and that
Donald Trump would never be elected president


Did I miss scientists predicting  911 and Donald Trump getting elected?

It took a  Getbig bro scientist 30 seconds to find this.


https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/throughout-life-heart-attacks-are-twice-as-common-in-men-than-women

Throughout life, heart attacks are twice as common in men than women



https://blog.dana-farber.org/insight/2018/10/men-likely-women-develop-cancer-course-lives/

Statistics show that men have about a one in two chance of developing cancer during their lifetime, while women have a one in three chance. Why is men’s risk of the disease higher?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: V Man on March 28, 2020, 03:23:15 AM
Pulling further and further ahead of daily deaths from seasonal flu.What are all you naysayers going to say when it's the biggest killer in the world within the month?

Where did you get that chart? Can you post the link?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 28, 2020, 03:54:04 AM
Where did you get that chart? Can you post the link?

Just glancing through the info provided.

The one number missing is how many people are infected without dying. We have no idea at the moment what that number is, as some peoples symptoms are so mild they hardly felt sick.

As more testing becomes available some are expecting that the assumed overall possible death rates were over exaggerated.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: V Man on March 28, 2020, 03:55:15 AM
Pulling further and further ahead of daily deaths from seasonal flu.What are all you naysayers going to say when it's the biggest killer in the world within the month?

Incidentally, the snapshot from that chart was on March 20th. The daily deaths of coronavirus on March 27th, were over 3200, so it is now in the number one spot.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: joswift on March 28, 2020, 04:01:21 AM
Pulling further and further ahead of daily deaths from seasonal flu.What are all you naysayers going to say when it's the biggest killer in the world within the month?

and after a month there will be an exponential decline in the number of cases, just like has happened everywhere else..

Its a peak, then a drop, soon you will have to find something else to be scared about, what about the 1 in 2 chance of developing cancer

Now thats scary..
Title: Re: Coronavirus - Hoax! Theories! Global Takeover! Fake in Italy?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 28, 2020, 04:14:56 AM
Remember when Governor Cuomo cried over not having enough ventilators? Lost his shit blaming the federal government. Well now they were found stockpiling them because by his own admission they were not needed yet. Wait, I thought the hospitals were carrying out the dead into meat trucks? Which is it?

Like is said. After another week or so of this, people are going to realize just how overboard everyone's actions were. Everything from the hoarding of food, to the lockdown, to the spending bill, to the apocalyptic death toll.

This whole thing is like watching a chicken running around without its head.
Title: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 16, 2020, 04:21:56 PM
This 14 year old 'Department of Defense' document proves Covid is a pre-planned hoax...

Title: Re: This document proves Covid is a "plan"demic...
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 16, 2020, 06:07:58 PM
Hard copy of the DOD document from 2006...

https://www.beaufort.marines.mil/Portals/53/Docs/DoDPIImplementationPlanAugust2006PublicRelease.pdf (https://www.beaufort.marines.mil/Portals/53/Docs/DoDPIImplementationPlanAugust2006PublicRelease.pdf)
Title: Re: This document proves Covid is a "plan"demic...
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 16, 2020, 06:41:39 PM
It’s a plan for any pandemic.
Title: Re: This document proves Covid is a "plan"demic...
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 16, 2020, 06:57:23 PM
It’s a plan for any pandemic.

Down to the % of deaths?  Too many specifics.  Read it.
Title: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 08:49:52 AM
HHS documents admit the CDC has never isolated any “covid-19 virus” … PCR tests nothing but instrument NOISE … the global HOAX is rapidly unraveling!
No isolated Certified Reference Materials for “covid-19” virus.
PCR tests that find “positive” results for covid merely the result of amplified instrument background.
FDA admits PCR tests were developed without any isolated covid-19 virus samples. So they simulated the virus.
Virologist Dr. Judy Mikovitz confirms common coronaviruses and monkey viruses fraudulently labeled “covid.”
Dr. Jane Ruby explains the lack of any viral isolate and why the pandemic is based on coordinated science fraud.
CDC FOIA documents reveal proof the CDC has never isolated covid-19.
The spike protein bioweapon is real, and covid “vaccines” are kill shots to achieve depopulation.
CDC Director Walensky admits the covid vaccine doesn’t stop covid infections.
Sen. Rand Paul calls for Americans to resist covid tyranny.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-08-hhs-documents-admit-the-cdc-has-never-isolated-any-covid-19-virus-global-hoax.html


Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: poonhead on August 09, 2021, 09:13:07 AM
I tried sending the link for this article threw fb and got a message saying it's disallowed
Recommend you guys try sending it threw there to see for yourselves
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 10:03:20 AM
Its banned on FB

Here is another doctor laying down some smack...
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 10:44:12 AM
Sadly, Americans are being stripped of their rights, in this particular case their right to choose.

Many workplaces are now making it mandatory for employment to receive the COVID vaccine. Additionally, in New York City, the mayor is making it mandatory for patrons to be vaccinated in order to enter bars, lounges, theaters, gyms and restaurants.

One of the major arguments against this that I've heard is, "Well, you have the right to NOT work for an institution that requires a vaccination". That's easier said than done. I have numerous friends that work for a variety of industries, from finance to healthcare to even law enforcement and these industries are specifically catered to the types of degrees and licenses that they hold. In other words, you don't get the vaccine and you can't make a living. You can't make a living and therefore you can't pay your bills (mortgage, utilities, food and daily expenses). This is an indirect way to force a vaccine onto people. Hit them where it not only hurts, but places into question their means for survival.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want the vaccine go get it. If you don't want the vaccine, you shouldn't be forced to get it. This is still a foreign substance that they are trying to force you to inject into your body. It's not FDA approved and if something does go wrong, you can't sue anyone (not your employer or pharmaceutical companies).

Remember, You get the vaccine and you can STILL:

Get COVID

Spread COVID

Die from COVID

What you might be able to appreciate is better odds at fending off the infection.

Of note, there have been numerous adverse & side effects suffered from those having received 1 or 2 doses of the vaccines. Also, as of today (8/9/2021) there have been 6,490 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html).

Again, do as you please as it's your right and the American way. I am all for supporting those that want the vaccine. What I am not supporting is a GOVERNMENT that is trying to force a vaccine into anyone's body.

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: lightweight83 on August 09, 2021, 10:46:21 AM
Its banned on FB

Here is another doctor laying down some smack...


This guy is CNN's worst nightmare!
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Straw Man on August 09, 2021, 11:04:54 AM
Sadly, Americans are being stripped of their rights, in this particular case their right to choose.

Many workplaces are now making it mandatory for employment to receive the COVID vaccine. Additionally, in New York City, the mayor is making it mandatory for patrons to be vaccinated in order to enter bars, lounges, theaters, gyms and restaurants.

One of the major arguments against this that I've heard is, "Well, you have the right to NOT work for an institution that requires a vaccination". That's easier said than done. I have numerous friends that work for a variety of industries, from finance to healthcare to even law enforcement and these industries are specifically catered to the types of degrees and licenses that they hold. In other words, you don't get the vaccine and you can't make a living. You can't make a living and therefore you can't pay your bills (mortgage, utilities, food and daily expenses). This is an indirect way to force a vaccine onto people. Hit them where it not only hurts, but places into question their means for survival.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want the vaccine go get it. If you don't want the vaccine, you shouldn't be forced to get it. This is still a foreign substance that they are trying to force you to inject into your body. It's not FDA approved and if something does go wrong, you can't sue anyone (not your employer or pharmaceutical companies).

Remember, You get the vaccine and you can STILL:

Get COVID

Spread COVID

Die from COVID


What you might be able to appreciate is better odds at fending off the infection.

Of note, there have been numerous adverse & side effects suffered from those having received 1 or 2 doses of the vaccines. Also, as of today (8/9/2021) there have been 6,490 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html).

Again, do as you please as it's your right and the American way. I am all for supporting those that want the vaccine. What I am not supporting is a GOVERNMENT that is trying to force a vaccine into anyone's body.

"1"

very few vaccinated people have died from Covid

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/data-shows-how-rare-severe-breakthrough-covid-infections-are/index.html

If everyone on the planet had it but very few got sick enough to be hospitalized and even fewer of those died it would be a non-issue
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Straw Man on August 09, 2021, 11:05:47 AM
HHS documents admit the CDC has never isolated any “covid-19 virus” … PCR tests nothing but instrument NOISE … the global HOAX is rapidly unraveling!
No isolated Certified Reference Materials for “covid-19” virus.
PCR tests that find “positive” results for covid merely the result of amplified instrument background.
FDA admits PCR tests were developed without any isolated covid-19 virus samples. So they simulated the virus.
Virologist Dr. Judy Mikovitz confirms common coronaviruses and monkey viruses fraudulently labeled “covid.”
Dr. Jane Ruby explains the lack of any viral isolate and why the pandemic is based on coordinated science fraud.
CDC FOIA documents reveal proof the CDC has never isolated covid-19.
The spike protein bioweapon is real, and covid “vaccines” are kill shots to achieve depopulation.
CDC Director Walensky admits the covid vaccine doesn’t stop covid infections.
Sen. Rand Paul calls for Americans to resist covid tyranny.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-08-hhs-documents-admit-the-cdc-has-never-isolated-any-covid-19-virus-global-hoax.html

It must suck to die from a hoax

how does that work?
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 09, 2021, 11:07:33 AM
It must suck to die from a hoax

how does that work?


Looking forward to the day that happens to you.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: tom joad on August 09, 2021, 11:14:35 AM
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Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Straw Man on August 09, 2021, 11:24:42 AM

Looking forward to the day that happens to you.

I'm vaccinated so you're going to have a long wait

are you vaccinated?

Hey, aren't you the moron who said no one would be talking about Covid after the election ?
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 11:25:20 AM
very few vaccinated people have died from Covid

https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/data-shows-how-rare-severe-breakthrough-covid-infections-are/index.html

If everyone on the planet had it but very few got sick enough to be hospitalized and even fewer of those died it would be a non-issue

You realize that my statement was that even if you get the vaccine, you can STILL die from COVID? It wasn't an absolute suggesting that you get the vaccine and you'll die from COVID, nor was it suggesting that with the vaccine you can't die from it.

What I do know is that in less than a year since it's existence over 6,000+ people have died after receiving 1 or 2 doses of the vaccine as per the CDC. Additionally, there are numerous adverse effects from receiving the vaccine (strokes, myocarditis, heart attacks etc).

Why not give your own immune system a chance? Since when does a government determine what's best for your health and force something upon you?

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Straw Man on August 09, 2021, 11:28:12 AM
You realize that my statement was that even if you get the vaccine, you can STILL die from COVID? It wasn't an absolute suggesting that you get the vaccine and you'll die from COVID, nor was it suggesting that with the vaccine you can't die from it.

What I do know is that in less than a year since it's existence over 6,000+ people have died after receiving 1 or 2 doses of the vaccine as per the CDC. Additionally, there are numerous adverse effects from receiving the vaccine (strokes, myocarditis, heart attacks etc).

Why not give your own immune system a chance? Since when does a government determine what's best for your health and force something upon you?

"1"

I do understand that

do you understand that something like 99% of the people who are dying from it now are the unvaccinated

6k people who have vaccinated have died out of how many millions who were vaccinated ?

Did those 6k have underlying conditions and were over a certain age?
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: pamith on August 09, 2021, 11:31:33 AM

Looking forward to the day that happens to you.
Bro...
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 11:32:23 AM
do you understand that something like 99% of the people who are dying from it now are the unvaccinated

Where did you get those stats from?

Addendum: Just googled it and found similar.

Again, my argument isn't how many Americans that are vaccinated versus not are dying from covid. My stance is why not let people have the right to choose?

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Straw Man on August 09, 2021, 11:47:22 AM
Where did you get those stats from?

Addendum: Just googled it and found similar.

Again, my argument isn't how many Americans that are vaccinated versus not are dying from covid. My stance is why not let people have the right to choose?

"1"

who is saying they don't have the right to choose

Their choices do effect everyone else though because it's the unvaccinated that are now overwhelming hospitals across this country and that impacts everyone

It's also the reason why many places have re-instituted mask mandates

It's also the unvaccinated that are allowing the virus to continue to have a large body of hosts that allow the variants to mutate

All those things impact everyone whether they are vaccinated or not
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 11:50:02 AM
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It goes both ways.

When Trump said there'd be vaccines before 2020's end, liberals laughed at the notion. The "experts" said there wouldn't be one for at least 2 years.....and we should be locked down until then.

When the vaccines started arriving, liberals by the truckload (including Biden and Harris) told everyone....ESPECIALLY BLACK PEOPLE....NOT to take the vaccine.

Now that BIden's in the Oval Office, these same people DEMAND that everybody and their mammy take the vaccine.....OR ELSE!!

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 12:08:15 PM
who is saying they don't have the right to choose

If you're being stripped of your livelihood, then yes, you're right to choose is being taken away. For instance, if you work at any major hospital in New York City, you have to get vaccinated or face termination. If you're a Physician who has established your life in NYC and have a wife and kids + a purchased home and decide you do not want to get vaccinated, this would mean that work would be almost impossible to find within NYC, as most Physicians in NYC depend on the big hospital institutions within NYC.

Their choices do effect everyone else though because it's the unvaccinated that are now overwhelming hospitals across this country and that impacts everyone

I am not too sure about that, only because I don't know what the vast majority of hospitals across the country are experiencing due to unvaccinated individuals. Again, unless I have the facts, I don't like to talk about these matters.

It's also the reason why many places have re-instituted mask mandates

I am perfectly fine with a mask mandate.

It's also the unvaccinated that are allowing the virus to continue to have a large body of hosts that allow the variants to mutate

I don't think this is a true. A virus will mutate in any setting, whether you're vaccinated or not. Hence why the Flu vaccine needs yearly tweaking, as the virus learns how to adopt to the various Flu vaccines that are put out on a yearly basis.

All those things impact everyone whether they are vaccinated or not

What does impact EVERYONE, young/old, vaccinated or unvaccinated is the idea of mandating vaccinations. If this occurs nationwide, it sets a precedent. Tomorrow, the government will then be able to mandate whatever they want and you will not have much to say about it.

Again, my stance is about your rights and basic freedoms. I believe the virus and its variants are real. I believe it can be very deadly in select age groups with certain comorbidities. I also agree with letting those interested in the vaccine, receive the vaccine. What I am simply against is mandating vaccines and taking away the basic right of an individual to choose. Realize, I am in New York City. We saw some of the worst numbers in terms of death throughout the USA. It's very real to all NY'ers, but our rights should still be even more important.

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 09, 2021, 12:13:02 PM
who is saying they don't have the right to choose

Their choices do effect everyone else though because it's the unvaccinated that are now overwhelming hospitals across this country and that impacts everyone

It's also the reason why many places have re-instituted mask mandates

It's also the unvaccinated that are allowing the virus to continue to have a large body of hosts that allow the variants to mutate

All those things impact everyone whether they are vaccinated or not
You have the right to choose but if you don't choose the vaccine we will take all of your rights away. ::)  Some choice.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 09, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
You have the right to choose but if you don't choose the vaccine we will take all of your rights away. ::)  Some choice.

Or lose your job because now employers are starting to require vaccination for their employees.

They have admitted that they want to make things as hard as they can on people that don't want to get vaccinated.  It's Coercion and the illusion of choice. 

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 09, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
In the interest of finding the truth I want to ask some questions from the mind of layman like myself.  Since we know that the flu kills 60,000 to 70,000 people every year in the United States......

How many people died in 2020 reportedly from covid?  Was it vastly more than 60,000?

If it's vastly more than 60,000 and yet covid is a hoax then what explains the huge increase in deaths?

How many deaths in 2020 were attributed to the flu?

If that number is very low (which I thought it was) then what explains the low to nonexistent cases of the flu?
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 01:29:01 PM
I do understand that

do you understand that something like 99% of the people who are dying from it now are the unvaccinated

6k people who have vaccinated have died out of how many millions who were vaccinated ?

Did those 6k have underlying conditions and were over a certain age?


When people were pointing out that most people who were supposed to have died from covid actually were at deaths door with a multitude of other ailments the bean counters ignored it.

Now they want to start pointing at co morbidities now people are dying after a vaccine.

Fucking priceless

In the UK less than 700 people out of the 130k have died of covid that were under 60 years of age
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Rascal full on August 09, 2021, 01:30:52 PM
If you're being stripped of your livelihood, then yes, you're right to choose is being taken away. For instance, if you work at any major hospital in New York City, you have to get vaccinated or face termination. If you're a Physician who has established your life in NYC and have a wife and kids + a purchased home and decide you do not want to get vaccinated, this would mean that work would be almost impossible to find within NYC, as most Physicians in NYC depend on the big hospital institutions within NYC.

I am not too sure about that, only because I don't know what the vast majority of hospitals across the country are experiencing due to unvaccinated individuals. Again, unless I have the facts, I don't like to talk about these matters.

I am perfectly fine with a mask mandate.

I don't think this is a true. A virus will mutate in any setting, whether you're vaccinated or not. Hence why the Flu vaccine needs yearly tweaking, as the virus learns how to adopt to the various Flu vaccines that are put out on a yearly basis.

What does impact EVERYONE, young/old, vaccinated or unvaccinated is the idea of mandating vaccinations. If this occurs nationwide, it sets a precedent. Tomorrow, the government will then be able to mandate whatever they want and you will not have much to say about it.

Again, my stance is about your rights and basic freedoms. I believe the virus and its variants are real. I believe it can be very deadly in select age groups with certain comorbidities. I also agree with letting those interested in the vaccine, receive the vaccine. What I am simply against is mandating vaccines and taking away the basic right of an individual to choose. Realize, I am in New York City. We saw some of the worst numbers in terms of death throughout the USA. It's very real to all NY'ers, but our rights should still be even more important.

"1"

Bravo, well said! I am so thankful there are still people that advocate for freedom of choice, like yourself and others I have seen on this board. Strawman has been proven to be a total wanker in so many threads, of course he is gonna be for forced vaccination.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 01:34:57 PM
People now are dying from respitory infections in a time of year which is virtually unheard of.

Come October November there will be a huge surge of deaths of the vaccinated and the blame will be laid at the unvaccinateds door.

Think about it like antibiotics, the use of antibiotics creates bacteria that are immune from antibiotics.
Its not people who dont take antibiotics that create mutant genes its people who take them.
This vaccines will help create new strains of the virus that will kill many more people each year.

This is a never ending cycle now
Get ready for full lockdowns coming soon to an area near you.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 01:35:47 PM
who is saying they don't have the right to choose

Their choices do effect everyone else though because it's the unvaccinated that are now overwhelming hospitals across this country and that impacts everyone

It's also the reason why many places have re-instituted mask mandates

It's also the unvaccinated that are allowing the virus to continue to have a large body of hosts that allow the variants to mutate

All those things impact everyone whether they are vaccinated or not
its actually the opposite
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 01:36:39 PM
You have the right to choose but if you don't choose the vaccine we will take all of your rights away. ::)  Some choice.

This guy gave people choices, too

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 01:37:21 PM
In the interest of finding the truth I want to ask some questions from the mind of layman like myself.  Since we know that the flu kills 60,000 to 70,000 people every year in the United States......

How many people died in 2020 reportedly from covid?  Was it vastly more than 60,000?

If it's vastly more than 60,000 and yet covid is a hoax then what explains the huge increase in deaths?

How many deaths in 2020 were attributed to the flu?

If that number is very low (which I thought it was) then what explains the low to nonexistent cases of the flu?

In the UK there were almost no flu deaths this flu season
They all got added to the covid stats
the 130k dead in the UK are pretty much anyone who has died of anything
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 09, 2021, 01:57:25 PM
Didn’t we go over this:




I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.


Btw, it’s not a hoax. It’s a scheme. There’s a difference. The latter has a purpose other than to just fuck with people.

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2021, 02:02:24 PM
You realize that my statement was that even if you get the vaccine, you can STILL die from COVID? It wasn't an absolute suggesting that you get the vaccine and you'll die from COVID, nor was it suggesting that with the vaccine you can't die from it.

What I do know is that in less than a year since it's existence over 6,000+ people have died after receiving 1 or 2 doses of the vaccine as per the CDC. Additionally, there are numerous adverse effects from receiving the vaccine (strokes, myocarditis, heart attacks etc).

Why not give your own immune system a chance? Since when does a government determine what's best for your health and force something upon you?

"1"

"Government" has forced vaccines on folks for a longtime. How long? The United States has a long history of school vaccination requirements. The first school vaccination requirement was enacted in the 1850s in Massachusetts to prevent the spread of smallpox. The polio vaccine is required in every state in the U.S. for school age children, https://www.immunize.org/laws/polio.pdf (https://www.immunize.org/laws/polio.pdf). DTaP is mandated for school age people in every state in the nation, https://www.immunize.org/laws/dtap.pdf (https://www.immunize.org/laws/dtap.pdf). Hepatitis A vaccine requirements, https://www.immunize.org/laws/hepa.pdf (https://www.immunize.org/laws/hepa.pdf).  Hepatitis B college requirements, https://www.immunize.org/laws/hepb_college.pdf  Varicella vaccine mandates for child care, pre-K, and K-12, https://www.immunize.org/laws/varicella.pdf (https://www.immunize.org/laws/varicella.pdf). Pneumococcal Conjugate mandates, https://www.immunize.org/laws/varicella.pdf (https://www.immunize.org/laws/varicella.pdf). Hib vaccine mandates for child care, https://www.immunize.org/laws/hib.pdf (https://www.immunize.org/laws/hib.pdf). And there are other vaccines which are mandated to a lesser degree in various circumstances and states.

If you want to travel to other countries or to the U.S. from other countries, various vaccines are mandated. Many of these are routine vaccines and boosters given children adults. Look for COVID vaccines to be mandated in more and more situations. Just today the pentagon moved to mandate Covid-19 vaccine for active duty military members. The list of corporations requiring employees be vaccinated is growing daily.  If you plan to travel to another country, better check first to see if a COVID vaccine is required.

Look for mandates and requirements surrounding COVID to become stricter and more commonplace as the virus mutates and continues to spread causing additional fears among people who have power and influence over other folks. 
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 09, 2021, 02:12:36 PM
It’s really pointless to have a discussion about this with someone who doesn’t understand economics, financial markets and particularly central bank operations. If you try to school them about this they’re just gonna get pissed off at you for having knowledge of something about which they know nothing.

A mark on another thread asked why governments would all go along with this. I thought about answering and then decided “What’s the point?”

If anybody is interested in the answer it’s because it’s free money.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 02:18:27 PM
Big report today on the news
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/climate-change-unequivocal-and-unprecedented-says-new-un-report

This has nothing to do with a virus
They are preparing people for a life without travel and a life with limited resources..
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 09, 2021, 02:28:40 PM


China Flu is still not killing pilots , those boys fly everywhere & ............... ::)

+ not a single president or prime minister died from Wuhan virus ............ :-X
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: robcguns on August 09, 2021, 03:24:20 PM
its actually the opposite

Was just going to say this.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 03:46:52 PM
"Government" has forced vaccines on folks for a longtime. How long? The United States has a long history of school vaccination requirements. The first school vaccination requirement was enacted in the 1850s in Massachusetts to prevent the spread of smallpox. The polio vaccine is required in every state in the U.S. for school age children

Yeah, but that statement isn't as clear-cut or as definitive as you think it might be. What you maybe didn't know or conveniently left out is that there are 44 states and Washington D.C. that grant religious exemptions for people who have religious objections to immunizations. Currently, 15 states also allow philosophical exemptions for children whose parents object to immunizations because of personal, moral or other beliefs. In other words, you can live in 44 states that allow you to have exemptions and not vaccinate your children.

If you want to travel to other countries or to the U.S. from other countries, various vaccines are mandated. Many of these are routine vaccines and boosters given children adults. Look for COVID vaccines to be mandated in more and more situations. Just today the pentagon moved to mandate Covid-19 vaccine for active duty military members. The list of corporations requiring employees be vaccinated is growing daily.  If you plan to travel to another country, better check first to see if a COVID vaccine is required.

Most countries don't require you to have vaccines in order to enter or leave. Few places (like Brazil) do, but most places don't. Correct me if I am wrong, but places I've traveled to including most of Europe, some African nations, the Caribbean, Canada and some South American countries did not. 

Look for mandates and requirements surrounding COVID to become stricter and more commonplace as the virus mutates and continues to spread causing additional fears among people who have power and influence over other folks.

Again, I am not a fan of mandates. I am a fan of human rights, not privileges than can be revoked.

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: AbrahamG on August 09, 2021, 03:47:44 PM
its actually the opposite

It's actually not. 
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Randomum on August 09, 2021, 04:25:30 PM
Yeah, but that statement isn't as clear-cut or as definitive as you think it might be. What you maybe didn't know or conveniently left out is that there are 44 states and Washington D.C. that grant religious exemptions for people who have religious objections to immunizations. Currently, 15 states also allow philosophical exemptions for children whose parents object to immunizations because of personal, moral or other beliefs. In other words, you can live in 44 states that allow you to have exemptions and not vaccinate your children.

Most countries don't require you to have vaccines in order to enter or leave. Few places (like Brazil) do, but most places don't. Correct me if I am wrong, but places I've traveled to including most of Europe, some African nations, the Caribbean, Canada and some South American countries did not. 

Again, I am not a fan of mandates. I am a fan of human rights, not privileges than can be revoked.

"1"

One More Rep are you in the healthcare industry? If so, (only answer if comfortable) did you get the vaccine?

Also I am open minded to what you all are saying. Can you guys explain to me what the ultimate plan for this is? Like what was the purpose? To fatten up Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson? If so why would so many be complicit in this? I'm trying to make sense of it.

I agree, what is the hysteria behind a virus that only kills like 1% of the population who also happen to have underlying conditions?

Also do you think the vaccine is a way to enact population control in the future? Like everyone who gets it will die? Or wouldn't it be easier to use it in reverse? Only the ones who get it will survive? Look at the countries with the most people vaccinated. They are Western Europe, North America, Australia, etc.

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Straw Man on August 09, 2021, 04:49:47 PM
If you're being stripped of your livelihood, then yes, you're right to choose is being taken away. For instance, if you work at any major hospital in New York City, you have to get vaccinated or face termination. If you're a Physician who has established your life in NYC and have a wife and kids + a purchased home and decide you do not want to get vaccinated, this would mean that work would be almost impossible to find within NYC, as most Physicians in NYC depend on the big hospital institutions within NYC.

I am not too sure about that, only because I don't know what the vast majority of hospitals across the country are experiencing due to unvaccinated individuals. Again, unless I have the facts, I don't like to talk about these matters.

I am perfectly fine with a mask mandate.

I don't think this is a true. A virus will mutate in any setting, whether you're vaccinated or not. Hence why the Flu vaccine needs yearly tweaking, as the virus learns how to adopt to the various Flu vaccines that are put out on a yearly basis.

What does impact EVERYONE, young/old, vaccinated or unvaccinated is the idea of mandating vaccinations. If this occurs nationwide, it sets a precedent. Tomorrow, the government will then be able to mandate whatever they want and you will not have much to say about it.

Again, my stance is about your rights and basic freedoms. I believe the virus and its variants are real. I believe it can be very deadly in select age groups with certain comorbidities. I also agree with letting those interested in the vaccine, receive the vaccine. What I am simply against is mandating vaccines and taking away the basic right of an individual to choose. Realize, I am in New York City. We saw some of the worst numbers in terms of death throughout the USA. It's very real to all NY'ers, but our rights should still be even more important.

"1"

I'm  fully in favor on any business requiring their employees to be vaccinated
I'm also in favor of any business exercising their choice to not serve or allow unvaccinated people into their businesses

To answer your other question here are 2 ER's in Texas that are shut temporarily shut down due to Covid.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/09/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

From what I've read the vast majority (high 90% range) of Covid cases that require  hospitalization are the unvaccinated.

We also know (from what is being reported) that most vaccinated people are protected from the Delta variant  Yes, some do still get infected and when they do they can pass it along but the majority of the people getting sick enough to require hospitalization and passing it along are unvaccinated.

BTW - the school year is just starting so we can probably expect another spike in cases as more kids get sick and more kids pass  it along to their  unvaccinated parent. 
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2021, 04:52:26 PM
Yeah, but that statement isn't as clear-cut or as definitive as you think it might be. What you maybe didn't know or conveniently left out is that there are 44 states and Washington D.C. that grant religious exemptions for people who have religious objections to immunizations. Currently, 15 states also allow philosophical exemptions for children whose parents object to immunizations because of personal, moral or other beliefs. In other words, you can live in 44 states that allow you to have exemptions and not vaccinate your children.

Most countries don't require you to have vaccines in order to enter or leave. Few places (like Brazil) do, but most places don't. Correct me if I am wrong, but places I've traveled to including most of Europe, some African nations, the Caribbean, Canada and some South American countries did not. 

Again, I am not a fan of mandates. I am a fan of human rights, not privileges than can be revoked.

"1"

I do know about exemptions and did not conveniently leave that out. This doesn't change the fact that vaccinations are required and most people comply. You said, "Since when does government determine what's best for your health and force something upon you." If you can opt out, they aren't actually forced on us or our kids.

My son travels to Africa as part of his job. He is a U.S. government employee. Not sure what different African nations require but he has to keep his vaccines up to date. Not sure he could opt out of this and expect to keep his job.

I am not a fan of mandates and restrictions either. I simply posted links to what vaccines are required (with exceptions) by various institutions. I neither made those rules nor did I say I thought they were good ones.

I am not an "anti-vaxxer" but I also am not someone who gets vaccinated or takes medications just because someone, including my doctor says it is the right thing to do. As I've mentioned before, I got my first flu shot last year. The shingles vaccine has been around since 2006. Since I once had the shingles, my doctor advised me every year when I had my annual wellness checkup that I should get the vaccine. I finally did it last year. It was worth the wait because Shingrix is twice as effective as Zostavax and the immunity to shingles is much longer. I mainly got vaccinated against COVID because I have asthma and a history of bronchial pneumonia, plus I'm an old fart. All of those make me more susceptible to getting seriously ill if I were to contract COVID.

 
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 04:52:44 PM
One More Rep are you in the healthcare industry? If so, (only answer if comfortable) did you get the vaccine?

Not in the healthcare industry. I am an Accountant. I have a small accounting business that services small-medium sized businesses in NYC. Think along the lines of your local bars, small law practices, real estate agencies, nonfranchise restaurants, pool halls, investment property owners etc. Because of the nature of my business, I can receive all the information from my clients over emails (via scans) and some of the older clientele always prefer in-person exchange of documents which is fine by me.

My brother is a Physician and actually works for New York Presbyterian - Weill Cornell Hospital. In light of his role, I know many of his fellow Physicians that are not for the vaccine being forced on them. I have NOT received the vaccine. Why? Because I actually had COVID during the summer of 2020 and spent 3 weeks facing the worst Flu-like sickness of my life, but I recovered and since then have been perfectly fine. I didn't require a hospitalization, which allows me to feel blessed in many ways. I also believe that our immune systems are for the most part capable of fending this virus off. Children are spared in many respects, young adults that are not unhealthy tend to do well. Older adults who are sickly and with many comorbidities tend to get fucked and some even die. Luckily, I am in good shape and take no prescribed medications. I take an Aspirin and Vitamin D daily (that's it).

Also I am open minded to what you all are saying. Can you guys explain to me what the ultimate plan for this is? Like what was the purpose? To fatten up Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson? If so why would so many be complicit in this? I'm trying to make sense of it.

I am not sure about the purpose. Like many, I merely speculate. I do believe that if there is in fact a truly sinister plan behind all of this, we are too small in the grand scheme of things to be let in on the "plan". What I do believe is that this is the most aggressive campaign I have ever seen bestowed upon the human race. Short of the great World Wars, when else in history have we seen anything pushed so damn hard onto people? Everything about it just doesn't sit well with me. It's too forced and for what reasons I don't know. I think it's bigger than simply to fatten up pharmaceutical companies, but to what greater end I just don't know. There's rumors, conspiracies and all sorts of crazy shit in between. I try to not go down the rabbit hole as it's kind of scary when you think about some of those strange scenarios. I just know that if left to their own machinations, governments can go wrong and do atrocious things. We've seen it in history and this time is no different.

I agree, what is the hysteria behind a virus that only kills like 1% of the population who also happen to have underlying conditions?

I don't know why the hysteria. But like I said before, I don't think the virus is fake. I think and believe it is real. I think the variants are also real. But I also believe that our body's own immune systems can win this battle. This isn't the weapon of mass destruction that was destined to do away with all of humanity and I don't believe that there are many that believe that.

Also do you think the vaccine is a way to enact population control in the future? Like everyone who gets it will die? Or wouldn't it be easier to use it in reverse? Only the ones who get it will survive? Look at the countries with the most people vaccinated. They are Western Europe, North America, Australia, etc.

Could be used for population control, but god damn that would be sinister as fuck. I've seen just as many strange videos floating around (Agenda 21 type shit) over the last 1-2 years about secret upper society groups gathering in closed-door meetings discussing the eradication of a large percentage of our population in order to preserve resources and not let our natural resources dwindle to the point of people going extinct due to things like world hunger. Do I believe all of that shit is true? Not really. Can it be? Sure, anything is possible.

What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are simple. I think we should preserve human rights. I believe the right to choose what goes into our bodies is of paramount importance. I think the moment when we allow governments to dictate what goes into our bodies is the moment we have surrendered our freedoms as citizens of this world. The government works for us, not the other way around. We (throughout the world) have surrendered to our governments. Why? Because we are lazy and comfortable pieces of shit. We want shit to stay the same. We want to sit there watching our social media apps, distributing "likes" to our favorite influencers all day, buying shit we don't need to impress people we don't like. We want everything to stay the same, because we fear change with all of our might. We are creatures of habit and when shit doesn't go according to plan, we FREAK the fuck out. We aren't made like our ancestors were. We are programmed little slaves working for greater corporations that are slowly taking over the world.

My stance and views stem from my experiences. I don't expect anyone to side with my stance. I also respect everyone's choice to believe in what they want. I just don't like the optics behind what's going on. We're surrendering too easily.

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: cart@@n on August 09, 2021, 06:14:43 PM
Its banned on FB

Here is another doctor laying down some smack...


Already deleted
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: lightweight83 on August 09, 2021, 06:21:22 PM
Already deleted

How is that even legal?  Nothing he was was inappropriate, and his knowledge and ability to speak was jaw dropping!  This guy should replace Fauci ASAP!
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: G_Thang on August 09, 2021, 06:35:26 PM

. Why? Because I actually had COVID during the summer of 2020 and spent 3 weeks facing the worst Flu-like sickness of my life, but I recovered and since then have been perfectly fine. I didn't require a hospitalization, which allows me to feel blessed in many ways. I also believe that our immune systems are for the most part capable of fending this virus off. Children are spared in many respects, young adults that are not unhealthy tend to do well. Older adults who are sickly and with many comorbidities tend to get fucked and some even die. Luckily, I am in good shape and take no prescribed medications. I take an Aspirin and Vitamin D daily (that's it).

Covid for a healthy person is equivalent to Baby Flu which I got from my nephew several years ago, was sick for 10 days, blowing green vegetables out of my nose. 

They can at this point match your blood serum vs. anyone and determine if the person will have stay-at-home symptoms, hospitalization, or a ventilator with a covid cloud in their lungs. Ask your brother that.  The datum is at Syracuse University. 

It's child abuse and demonic for small children to get this bullshit in a syringe and even wear masks amongst each other. Let them infect each other and they will produce Honey Bagger antibodies. 

I have about 2 weeks to decide on my resignation.  My financials can hold me over 36 months with ease but it kills business opportunities and academics.

Why the hell didn't take a job in Canada?

Good push back in Cali so I'm going to see how things develop over the next 30 days?

Crazy thing is, I had lung inflammation last summer with no real symptoms other than shallow breathing. A serum test would be worthless now and my PCP is a POS!

 
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 06:50:54 PM
Covid for a healthy person is equivalent to Baby Flu which I got from my nephew several years ago, was sick for 10 days, blowing green vegetables out of my nose. 

They can at this point match your blood serum vs. anyone and determine if the person will have stay-at-home symptoms, hospitalization, or a ventilator with a covid cloud in their lungs. Ask your brother that.  The datum is at Syracuse University. 

It's child abuse and demonic for small children to get this bullshit in a syringe and even wear masks amongst each other. Let them infect each other and they will produce Honey Bagger antibodies. 

I have about 2 weeks to decide on my resignation.  My financials can hold me over 36 months with ease but it kills business opportunities and academics.

Why the hell didn't take a job in Canada?

Good push back in Cali so I'm going to see how things develop over the next 30 days?

Fucking insane that MANY people are having to face termination or resignation due to a mandated vaccine. That's so fucking un-American!

Speaking of places, what about Florida or Texas? Aren't they supposed to be like the last bastions for American freedoms?

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Moontrane on August 09, 2021, 06:56:09 PM
In the UK there were almost no flu deaths this flu season
They all got added to the covid stats
the 130k dead in the UK are pretty much anyone who has died of anything

ER flu positive rate at end of November 2015 - 2019 averaged 15.8% - just over 1 out of 6.

ER flu positive rate at end of November 2020 was 0.10% - just over 1 out of 1,000.

Did COVID precautions eradicate the flu? Or were COVID positives actually flu positives?  I don’t think we’ll ever know.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 09, 2021, 06:56:46 PM
Fucking insane that MANY people are having to face termination or resignation due to a mandated vaccine. That's so fucking un-American!

Speaking of places, what about Florida or Texas? Aren't they supposed to be like the last bastions for American freedoms?

"1"


There was no masks @ King Faruk Obama birthday mega party on Saturday  ???.

"American" Covid must be dead ?.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Moontrane on August 09, 2021, 07:00:48 PM

There was no masks @ King Faruk Obama birthday mega party on Saturday  ???.

"American" Covid must be dead ?.

“This is going to be safe. This is a sophisticated vaccinated crowd.”
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 09, 2021, 07:06:29 PM
“This is going to be safe. This is a sophisticated vaccinated crowd.”

This maskless party mob 'kills' BoB Straw/Lurk,PedoPrime,Funk41 & other Bidenists  :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Tennisballz on August 09, 2021, 07:19:20 PM
who is saying they don't have the right to choose

Their choices do effect everyone else though because it's the unvaccinated that are now overwhelming hospitals across this country and that impacts everyone

It's also the reason why many places have re-instituted mask mandates

It's also the unvaccinated that are allowing the virus to continue to have a large body of hosts that allow the variants to mutate

All those things impact everyone whether they are vaccinated or not
there’s not a single hospital overwhelmed where I live and I’m in a major metropolis.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Estimated on August 09, 2021, 07:56:13 PM
You know Straw Man would have the complete opposite take if Trump was still in the white house.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: kreator on August 09, 2021, 10:18:55 PM
you won't hear about this on TV

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html?fbclid=IwAR1chJ8yQQX7G726z796GphqI0sYVbbed8f0a_2EWhHrSB3XtjVqe4BvEgI
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: avxo on August 09, 2021, 10:24:33 PM
you won't hear about this on TV

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html?fbclid=IwAR1chJ8yQQX7G726z796GphqI0sYVbbed8f0a_2EWhHrSB3XtjVqe4BvEgI

That’s Ryan Cole. His claims have been debunked including by the author of the paper on which Dr. Cole is basing his claims.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2021, 10:54:58 PM
Fucking insane that MANY people are having to face termination or resignation due to a mandated vaccine. That's so fucking un-American!

Speaking of places, what about Florida or Texas? Aren't they supposed to be like the last bastions for American freedoms?

"1"

I don't disagree. Fear causes irrational and insane behavior. Unfortunately, I have the feeling it is going to get worse....much worse.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: G_Thang on August 09, 2021, 11:35:11 PM
I don't disagree. Fear causes irrational and insane behavior. Unfortunately, I have the feeling it is going to get worse....much worse.

No shot, no service beginning in the Bay Area.  Did BayGMB get vaccinated?  Not my kind of town anyway. 
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: tommywishbone on August 09, 2021, 11:41:46 PM
Covid19. HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA.

And millions fell for the bullshit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA.

If you fell for it please kill yourself.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: G_Thang on August 09, 2021, 11:56:52 PM
Essentially, the vaccinated are the super spreaders given they are forcing the rapid mutations and housing them.  So if you are an unvaccinated and vaccinated person without a mask tries to come within 6 feet of you, then run like hell.   Think without a vaccine you have been virus-free since Feb 2020.  CDC and vaccinated fucbois prove me wrong.   
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Zillotch on August 10, 2021, 12:09:07 AM

If you fell for it please kill yourself.

they have.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 10, 2021, 03:11:03 AM
You guys are over thinking this. It’s a currency devaluation scheme with a wealth transfer to the medical establishment. That’s it. Who’s printing the money? Governments. Who’s paying for the testing and vaccines? Governments. Who funds all these health organizations like the CDC and the WHO? Big pharmaceutical companies. Who is getting paid for the vaccines and the tests? Big pharma companies.

Just follow the money. Works every time.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: jwb on August 10, 2021, 03:58:43 AM
I'm vaccinated so you're going to have a long wait

are you vaccinated?

Hey, aren't you the moron who said no one would be talking about Covid after the election ?
yeah I thought we weren’t gonna hear anything about COVID this year funny about that.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: IroNat on August 10, 2021, 04:02:43 AM
Buy stock in Big Pharma.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 10, 2021, 05:08:54 AM
In the early part of the pandemic a virus PhD scientist was recorded in a video tape that the covid 19 was modified from the one found in nature. You can argue the semantics of what is a gain of function but she said it was changed so it's more contagious to humans and more deadly because of that. Sure sounds like a bio weapon. Long story short her video was removed from youtube. Only the official liberal bull shit version is allowed.

Remember when the CDC, China and Fauci all said it came from a food market in Wuhan and had nothing to do with the Covid virus lab in Wuhan? 

How about all the US funding of the Wuhan lab under Fauci during Obama?  They again play semantic games saying the funding was directly from the US. Yes, it was US federal money going to China.

What was the purpose for a lab making a virus in nature more dangerous?  Tell me the reason?  It was weapon development. Yes, bio weapons labs exist in the US, China and Russia.

Watch the Democrats say it's too dangerous vote again because of covid and they need mail in ballots with their suspect counting computers.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 10, 2021, 06:42:42 AM
What was the purpose for a lab making a virus in nature more dangerous?  Tell me the reason?  It was weapon development. Yes, bio weapons labs exist in the US, China and Russia.

Forgive me if I am extracting a portion of your statements and completely taking them out of context, but I think the bigger question here (which you've sort of posed in your thought process) is why are "they" doing this?

Why hurt humanity as a whole by creating a substance (virus in this case) that can limit our time within these meat vessels we call bodies? To then create a makeshift antidote in the form of a vaccine that isn't a true cure, but instead a minimizer of effects.

Hypothetical scenario here....

You get the vaccine. You then have a better shot at fighting off the big bad virus. But, on the flip side, the virus can still be passed from you to someone else. What's worse is that now the virus has gotten stronger, because of you being vaccinated. Since it wasn't able to die, either by destroying the vessel which it dwelled in (ie YOU) OR by allowing that vessel's immune system to destroy the virus in itself, it has now grown stronger and smarter. It will then go to a poor soul (lets call them the unvaccinated for argument's sake) and wreak all the havoc it couldn't impose on you, instead it will bring it to them.

This ALL seems very contrived in a strangely sinister fashion.  My question is, why? Why even do this to begin with? When you ask that and start to realize it's likely the EGO-driven lusts and hungers of a small elite group of individuals, it makes you appreciate the voices of those that go against the establishment. For that reason, I say give your own bodies a chance to fight this virus off. If you give in to their demands and show subservience, they have won. This is not so much about a lab-created virus, as it is a battle between those who have appreciated power for so long slowly starting to realize that the subservient beneath them are starting to wake up to their imposed slavery, even if it comes by way of chemical chains in the form of viral strains.

But respectfully, what the fuck do I even know? I'm just another small piece of energy from that greater source of energy that we ALL belong to. In a purely metaphysical way, we are just going along for yet another ride in the experience of a greater energy source. We are all just too fully enwrapped in our own egos to see beyond that.

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 10, 2021, 06:45:56 AM
Forgive me if I am extracting a portion of your statements and completely taking them out of context, but I think the bigger question here (which you've sort of posed in your thought process) is why are "they" doing this?

Why hurt humanity as a whole by creating a substance (virus in this case) that can limit our time within these meat vessels we call bodies? To then create a makeshift antidote in the form of a vaccine that isn't a true cure, but instead a minimizer of effects.


Hypothetical scenario here....

You get the vaccine. You then have a better shot at fighting off the big bad virus. But, on the flip side, the virus can still be passed from you to someone else. What's worse is that now the virus has gotten stronger, because of you being vaccinated. Since it wasn't able to die, either by destroying the vessel which it dwelled in (ie YOU) OR by allowing that vessel's immune system to destroy the virus in itself, it has now grown stronger and smarter. It will then go to a poor soul (lets call them the unvaccinated for argument's sake) and wreak all the havoc it couldn't impose on you, instead it will bring it to them.

This ALL seems very contrived in a strangely sinister fashion.  My question is, why? Why even do this to begin with? When you ask that and start to realize it's likely the EGO-driven lusts and hungers of a small elite group of individuals, it makes you appreciate the voices of those that go against the establishment. For that reason, I say give your own bodies a chance to fight this virus off. If you give in to their demands and show subservience, they have won. This is not so much about a lab-created virus, as it is a battle between those who have appreciated power for so long slowly starting to realize that the subservient beneath them are starting to wake up to their imposed slavery, even if it comes by way of chemical chains in the form of viral strains.

But respectfully, what the fuck do I even know? I'm just another small piece of energy from that greater source of energy that we ALL belong to. In a purely metaphysical way, we are just going along for yet another ride in the experience of a greater energy source. We are all just too fully enwrapped in our own egos to see beyond that.

"1"
The vaccine wasnt created to minimise effects is was to create many new variants in the vaccinated

Forget virus and think climate change.....thats the end goal.....
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 10, 2021, 06:48:13 AM
Already deleted

Yes, one day and taken down
Everything he said he had evidence to back it up and was willing to debate with anyone they provided...

People are now way too far gone to help, its a very bad case of Stockholm syndrome and Cognitive dissonance
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 10, 2021, 06:51:38 AM
The vaccine wasnt created to minimise effects is was to create many new variants in the vaccinated

Forget virus and think climate change.....thats the end goal.....

I think you're correct in that the vaccine simply allows for stronger and much more mutated forms of the virus to surface from that that outlive it (be it vaccinated or not). Using the simple logic of, "that which does not kill us, makes us stronger".

Tell us more regarding your postulation of climate change as the end goal. That's very interesting.

"1"
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: G_Thang on August 10, 2021, 07:04:40 AM


Jasmin O
2 days ago
Do the “vaccines” work or is it due to the natural mutation of the virus that the cases, in general, are less severe now

There is always one smart gal in the crowd.  Kudos!
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 10, 2021, 07:09:18 AM
I think you're correct in that the vaccine simply allows for stronger and much more mutated forms of the virus to surface from that that outlive it (be it vaccinated or not). Using the simple logic of, "that which does not kill us, makes us stronger".

Tell us more regarding your postulation of climate change as the end goal. That's very interesting.

"1"

If they asked people to stay indoors to cut down on carbon emmisions to save the planet no one would have done it
So they create a threat to terrify people into doing it, carbon emmisions dropped drastically last year and they now know how to get people to comply, they will have lockdowns now every winter stopping overseas travel and the vaccine passports will ensure that people have a vaccine in order to travel yet they still have a traffic light system so they can instantly stop you going anywhere vaccinated or not.

Travel will be only be possible by the very wealthy.

I got sent this March 2019

Hypothesise: A simulated global outbreak, required steps, various phases, overall timeline and expected outcomes

ROCKEFELLER - LOCKSTEP 2010.

Create a very contagious but super low mortality rate virus to fit the needed plan (SARS/HIV hybrid research strain created at Fort Detrick class 4 lab from 2008-2013 as part of a research project to find out why coronavirus's spread like wildfire in bats but have an extremely hard time infecting humans (hence the 4 HIV inserts, aka the missing key to infect the human ACE-2 receptor))

-Create a weaponized version of the virus with a much higher mortality rate as a "BACKUP plan" ready to be released in phase 3 BUT ONLY IF NEEDED (SARS/HIV/MERS weaponized tribrid strain created at Fort Detrick class 4 lab in 2015)

-Transport the research strain to a different class 4 lab (National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg Canada) and have it stolen and smuggled out by China (Shi Zhengli) on purpose and taken to China's only class 4 lab (Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan China) for added plausible deniability and to help cement the wanted BACKUP public script as something to fall back on IF needed (primary script being its natural, backup script being that China created it and released it by accident)

-Fund all the talking heads (Fauci/Birx/Tedros...) and agencies (WHO/NIAID/CDC/UN...) that would be involved with pandemic response prior to the planned release of the research strain to control the wanted script throughout the operation

-Create and fund the vaccination development and roll-out plan so its capable of being rolled out on a global scale (Gates - Decade of Vaccines: Global Vaccine Action Plan, 2010-2020)

-Create and fund the vaccination verification/certification protocols (Digital ID) to enforce/confirm the vaccination program after the mandatory roll-out is enacted
(Gates - ID2020)

-Simulate the Lock Step hypothesis just prior to the planned research strain release using a real-world exercise as a final wargame to determine expected response/timelines/outcomes
(Gates - Event 201)
Oct 2019

-Release the research strain at the Wuhan Institute of Virology itself and then blame it's released on a natural scapegoat as the wanted primary script (Wuhan wet market, Nov 2019)

-Downplay the human-to-human transmission for as long as possible to allow the research strain to spread on a global scale before any country can lockdown/respond to avoid initial infection

-Once a country has seed infection in place, lockdown incoming/outgoing travel but keep the transmission within the country spreading for as long as possible

-Once enough people in a country/region are infected, enact forced quarantines/isolation for that area and expand the lockdown regions slowly over time

-Over-hype the mortality rate by tying the research strain to deaths that have little to nothing to do with the actual virus to keep the fear and compliance at a maximum (if anyone dies for ANY reason and is found they have COVID consider it a COVID death & if anyone is thought to of MAYBE had symptoms of COVID to assume they have COVID and consider it a COVID death)

-Keep the public quarantined for as long as possible to destroy the regions economy, create civil unrest, breakdown the supply chain, and cause the start of mass food shortages, as well as cause peoples immune system to weaken due to lack of interaction with other people/bacteria (the outside world... aka the things that keeps our immune system alert and active)

-Downplay and attack any potential "treatments" and continue to echo that only a "cure" is viable to fight this virus (aka a vaccine)

-Continue to drag out the quarantine over and over and over again (in 2 week intervals) causing more and more people to eventually stand up and protest/defy them

-Eventually end the phase 1 quarantine once they get enough public push-back (~June 2020), and publicly state that they still think it's "too early" to end the isolation but are going to do it anyways

-Once the public go "back to normal" wait a few weeks and then continue to over-hype the research strain mortality rate (~Aug-Sept 2020), and combine it with the increase in deaths due to people dying from standard illnesses at a higher rate then normal due to having highly weakened immune systems from months of being in isolation, to help further "pad" the mortality rate and hype the upcoming phase 2 lockdown

-Eventually enact phase 2 quarantines (~Oct-Nov 2020) on a even more extreme level and blame the protesters (mostly people who don't trust their government already) for the cause of the "larger" 2nd wave (we told you so, it was too early, this is all your fault cause you needed a hair cut, your freedoms have consequences...)

-Enforce the phase 2 quarantines at a much more extreme level, increasing the penalty for defiance (replace fines with jail time), deem ALL travel as non-essential, increase checkpoints (including military assistance), increase tracking/tracing of the population (mandatory apps), take over control of food/gas (large scale shortages) so that people can only get access to essential products/services if they are FIRST given permission

-Keep the phase 2 lockdown in place for a much longer period of time then the phase 1 lockdown, continuing to destroy the global economy, further degrade the supply chain, and further amplify the food shortages, and alike

-Quell any public outrage using extreme actions/force and make anyone who defy's them appear as public enemy #1 to those who are willing to submit

-After a rather long phase 2 lockdown (6+ months), roll-out the vaccination program + vaccine certification and make it mandatory for everyone (giving priority access to those that submitted from the start), and have those that are for it attack those that are against it saying they are a threat and the cause of all the problems (we can't go back to normal until EVERYONE takes the vaccine... people defying them are hurting our way of life and therefore are the enemy)

https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/05/15/bill-gates-explains-that-the-covid-vaccine-will-use-experimental-technology-and-permanently-alter-your-dna/?utm_source=Waking+Times+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=65fdb4effa-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_25f1e048c1-65fdb4effa-54731725

If the majority of people go along with the agenda then let those people enter the new system (new normal) while limiting the minority that defy the agenda's ability to work/travel/live

-If the majority of people go against the agenda then release the weaponized SARS/HIV/MERS tribrid strain as phase 3. A virus with a 30%+ mortality rate as a final scare to push the minority to quickly become the majority and give a final "we told you so" to those that didn't listen

Enact the new economy model Microsoft patent 060606 - Cryptocurrency System Using Body Activity Data. This is based on human behavior and willingness to submit (tweaked version of Black Mirror's "Fifteen Million Merits") using food/water/shelter and other essentials as a weapon of enforcement of the new economic system. Basically do what we want and get rewarded (gain credits/score and gain more access to things you need to survive) or go against what we want and get penalized (lose credits/score and lose access to things you need to survive).'
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 10, 2021, 07:59:00 AM
You know Straw Man would have the complete opposite take if Trump was still in the white house.


Strawbrain is a contrarian. The positive out of all this is he'll be suffering a stroke soon enough from his vaccination, lol
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 10, 2021, 08:27:35 AM
If they asked people to stay indoors to cut down on carbon emmisions to save the planet no one would have done it
So they create a threat to terrify people into doing it, carbon emmisions dropped drastically last year and they now know how to get people to comply, they will have lockdowns now every winter stopping overseas travel and the vaccine passports will ensure that people have a vaccine in order to travel yet they still have a traffic light system so they can instantly stop you going anywhere vaccinated or not.

Travel will be only be possible by the very wealthy.

I got sent this March 2019

Hypothesise: A simulated global outbreak, required steps, various phases, overall timeline and expected outcomes

ROCKEFELLER - LOCKSTEP 2010.

Create a very contagious but super low mortality rate virus to fit the needed plan (SARS/HIV hybrid research strain created at Fort Detrick class 4 lab from 2008-2013 as part of a research project to find out why coronavirus's spread like wildfire in bats but have an extremely hard time infecting humans (hence the 4 HIV inserts, aka the missing key to infect the human ACE-2 receptor))

-Create a weaponized version of the virus with a much higher mortality rate as a "BACKUP plan" ready to be released in phase 3 BUT ONLY IF NEEDED (SARS/HIV/MERS weaponized tribrid strain created at Fort Detrick class 4 lab in 2015)

-Transport the research strain to a different class 4 lab (National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg Canada) and have it stolen and smuggled out by China (Shi Zhengli) on purpose and taken to China's only class 4 lab (Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan China) for added plausible deniability and to help cement the wanted BACKUP public script as something to fall back on IF needed (primary script being its natural, backup script being that China created it and released it by accident)

-Fund all the talking heads (Fauci/Birx/Tedros...) and agencies (WHO/NIAID/CDC/UN...) that would be involved with pandemic response prior to the planned release of the research strain to control the wanted script throughout the operation

-Create and fund the vaccination development and roll-out plan so its capable of being rolled out on a global scale (Gates - Decade of Vaccines: Global Vaccine Action Plan, 2010-2020)

-Create and fund the vaccination verification/certification protocols (Digital ID) to enforce/confirm the vaccination program after the mandatory roll-out is enacted
(Gates - ID2020)

-Simulate the Lock Step hypothesis just prior to the planned research strain release using a real-world exercise as a final wargame to determine expected response/timelines/outcomes
(Gates - Event 201)
Oct 2019

-Release the research strain at the Wuhan Institute of Virology itself and then blame it's released on a natural scapegoat as the wanted primary script (Wuhan wet market, Nov 2019)

-Downplay the human-to-human transmission for as long as possible to allow the research strain to spread on a global scale before any country can lockdown/respond to avoid initial infection

-Once a country has seed infection in place, lockdown incoming/outgoing travel but keep the transmission within the country spreading for as long as possible

-Once enough people in a country/region are infected, enact forced quarantines/isolation for that area and expand the lockdown regions slowly over time

-Over-hype the mortality rate by tying the research strain to deaths that have little to nothing to do with the actual virus to keep the fear and compliance at a maximum (if anyone dies for ANY reason and is found they have COVID consider it a COVID death & if anyone is thought to of MAYBE had symptoms of COVID to assume they have COVID and consider it a COVID death)

-Keep the public quarantined for as long as possible to destroy the regions economy, create civil unrest, breakdown the supply chain, and cause the start of mass food shortages, as well as cause peoples immune system to weaken due to lack of interaction with other people/bacteria (the outside world... aka the things that keeps our immune system alert and active)

-Downplay and attack any potential "treatments" and continue to echo that only a "cure" is viable to fight this virus (aka a vaccine)

-Continue to drag out the quarantine over and over and over again (in 2 week intervals) causing more and more people to eventually stand up and protest/defy them

-Eventually end the phase 1 quarantine once they get enough public push-back (~June 2020), and publicly state that they still think it's "too early" to end the isolation but are going to do it anyways

-Once the public go "back to normal" wait a few weeks and then continue to over-hype the research strain mortality rate (~Aug-Sept 2020), and combine it with the increase in deaths due to people dying from standard illnesses at a higher rate then normal due to having highly weakened immune systems from months of being in isolation, to help further "pad" the mortality rate and hype the upcoming phase 2 lockdown

-Eventually enact phase 2 quarantines (~Oct-Nov 2020) on a even more extreme level and blame the protesters (mostly people who don't trust their government already) for the cause of the "larger" 2nd wave (we told you so, it was too early, this is all your fault cause you needed a hair cut, your freedoms have consequences...)

-Enforce the phase 2 quarantines at a much more extreme level, increasing the penalty for defiance (replace fines with jail time), deem ALL travel as non-essential, increase checkpoints (including military assistance), increase tracking/tracing of the population (mandatory apps), take over control of food/gas (large scale shortages) so that people can only get access to essential products/services if they are FIRST given permission

-Keep the phase 2 lockdown in place for a much longer period of time then the phase 1 lockdown, continuing to destroy the global economy, further degrade the supply chain, and further amplify the food shortages, and alike

-Quell any public outrage using extreme actions/force and make anyone who defy's them appear as public enemy #1 to those who are willing to submit

-After a rather long phase 2 lockdown (6+ months), roll-out the vaccination program + vaccine certification and make it mandatory for everyone (giving priority access to those that submitted from the start), and have those that are for it attack those that are against it saying they are a threat and the cause of all the problems (we can't go back to normal until EVERYONE takes the vaccine... people defying them are hurting our way of life and therefore are the enemy)

https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/05/15/bill-gates-explains-that-the-covid-vaccine-will-use-experimental-technology-and-permanently-alter-your-dna/?utm_source=Waking+Times+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=65fdb4effa-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_25f1e048c1-65fdb4effa-54731725

If the majority of people go along with the agenda then let those people enter the new system (new normal) while limiting the minority that defy the agenda's ability to work/travel/live

-If the majority of people go against the agenda then release the weaponized SARS/HIV/MERS tribrid strain as phase 3. A virus with a 30%+ mortality rate as a final scare to push the minority to quickly become the majority and give a final "we told you so" to those that didn't listen

Enact the new economy model Microsoft patent 060606 - Cryptocurrency System Using Body Activity Data. This is based on human behavior and willingness to submit (tweaked version of Black Mirror's "Fifteen Million Merits") using food/water/shelter and other essentials as a weapon of enforcement of the new economic system. Basically do what we want and get rewarded (gain credits/score and gain more access to things you need to survive) or go against what we want and get penalized (lose credits/score and lose access to things you need to survive).'

What a scary predicament if true.

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Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 10, 2021, 08:34:21 AM
I look at it more from the financial side. Governments around the world are all essentially bankrupt, health care systems especially. So they have to continually come up with schemes to print money. The danger in this is a worldwide hyperinflation. So, restrictions are put in place to deliberately slow down spending and the economy.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: loco on August 10, 2021, 08:48:30 AM
It's also the unvaccinated that are allowing the virus to continue to have a large body of hosts that allow the variants to mutate

Natural immunity in those who had the virus and recovered prevents infection.

The vaccine doesn't prevent infection.  It only lowers the risk of hospitalization and/or death after infection.

Because the vaccine doesn't prevent infection, the virus would continue to have a large body of hosts and allow variants to mutate even if everyone was vaccinated. 
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 10, 2021, 09:25:01 AM
Already deleted
https://ugetube.com/watch/us-doctor-with-expertise-in-immunology-inflammation-regulation-drops-truth-bomb_JFNEiVfyrlrGkpI.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=pmd_ca43f9ddf8dd04c6217ff9e94d481404c39144d5-1628612573-0-gqNtZGzNAo2jcnBszQdi


also a link to all the information he quoted..

https://www.doweneedthis.org/blog/md-speaks-out-at-school-board-meeting-in-indiana
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 10, 2021, 09:37:20 AM
full transcript from the video
Transcript of Dr Dan Stark to the Mt Vernon Community School Corporation
Friday August 7th 2021
Mt Vernon Indiana
Guilty as charged.
Dr. Dan Stark, [redacted
The address you're about to see is hard to believe 18 months into this and still
having a problem. And I would suggest the reason we still have a problem is
because we're doing things that are not useful and we're getting our sources of
information from the Indiana State board of Health and the CDC who actually don't
bother to read science before they do this.
I'm actually a functional family medicine physician. That means I am speciality
trained in immunology and inflammation, regulation.
And everything being recommended by the CDC and the State Board of Health is
actually contrary to all the rules of science.
So things you should know about coronavirus and all other respiratory viruses, they
are spread by aerosol particles which are small enough to go through every mask.
By the way, the literature that supports all of that is in a flash drive that we
presented to you. It's been given to the secretary.
As a matter of fact, it quotes at least three studies that’s sponsored by the NIH to
that exact fact, even though the CDC in the NIH have chosen to to ignore the very
science that they paid to have done.
That is why you keep struggling with this, is because you cannot make these
viruses go away.
The natural history of all respiratory viruses is that they circulate all year long
waiting for the immune system to get sick through the winter or become deranged,
as has happened recently with these vaccines. And then they cause symptomatic
disease because they cannot be filtered out and they have animal reservoirs.
And this is a very important point. No one can make this virus go away. The CDC
has managed to convince everybody that we can handle this like we did smallpox,
where we could make a virus go away.


Smallpox had no animal reservoirs. The only thing it learned to infect was humans.
That's why we're able to make that virus go away. That will not happen with this any
more than it will with influenza, the common cold, respiratory syncytial virus,
adenoviral respiratory syndromes, or anything else that has animal reservoirs.
So the reason you can't do this is because you're trying to do something which has
already been tried and can't be done.
Equally important is that vaccination changes none of this, especially with this
vaccine. And I would hope this board would start asking itself before it considers
taking the advice of the CDC, the NIH and the state board of health, why we are
doing things about this that we didn't do for the common cold, influenza, or
respiratory syncytial virus?
And then ask yourself, why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective having a
breakout in the middle of the summer when respiratory viral syndromes don't do
that?
And to help you understand that, you need to know the condition that is called
antibody mediated viral enhancement. That is a condition done when vaccines
work wrong, as they did in every coronavirus study done in animals on
coronaviruses after the SARS outbreak and done in respiratory syncytial virus
where a vaccine used in a vulnerable individual, done the wrong way, which why it
cannot be done right for respiratory virus, which has a very low pathogenicity rate,
causes the immune system to actually fight the virus wrong and let the virus
become worse than it would with native infection.
And that is why you are seeing an outbreak right now. In fact, in that flash drive
you're going to have coming to you in the emails with six extra [??obiate] studies
showing that 75 percent of people who had covid-19 positive symptom cases in
Barnstable, Massachusetts outbreak were fully vaccinated.
Therefore, there is no reason for treating any person vaccinated any differently than
any person unvaccinated. You should also know that no vaccine, even the ones I
support and would give to myself and my children, ever stops infection.
In 2014, there was outbreak of mumps in the National Hockey League. The only
people who came down the symptoms were the people who were unvaccinated or
unknown vaccine status. Boy, that sounds like a great argument for vaccines, but a
question that you should ask yourself, knowing that half of the people who came
down with symptomatic disease had no contact with an unvaccinated or unknown
vaccine status individual, where did they get the disease?

And the answer was “from the vaccinated individuals.” No vaccine prevents you from
getting infection. You get infected, you shed pathogen. This is especially true of
viral respiratory pathogens. You just don't get symptomatic from it.
So you cannot stop spread. You cannot make these numbers that you've planned
on get better by doing any of the things you're doing, because that is the nature of
viral respiratory pathogens.
And you can't prevent it with a vaccine because they don't do the very thing you're
wanting them to do.
And you will be chasing this the remainder of your life until you recognize that the
Center for Disease Control and the Indiana State Board of Health are giving you
very bad scientific guidance. And instead read the articles that are coming in the
email and on this flash drive and listen to the people in this audience here tonight
who actually have recognized the advice they are getting from the CDC and the NIH
is counterfactual.
And that's why you're still fighting this with this vaccine that supposedly was going

to make all of this go away. But it suddenly managed to make an outbreak of covid-
19 develop in the middle of the summer when vitamin D levels are at their highest.

By the way, the other thing that would be necessary, any vaccine restriction to be
considered is if there were no other treatment available. And I can tell you, having
treated over 15 covid-19 patients, that between active loading with vitamin D,
ivermectin and zinc, that there is not a single person who has come anywhere near
the hospital.
And we already have studies that show that if you achieve a 25 hydroxy vitamin D
level greater than fifty five, your risk of covid-19 death will drop down to one quarter
of the population average for the United States.
And there are active treatment trials included on that flash drive that the show the
same is true. So if you were going to discriminate based upon vaccine, you should
also discriminate based upon 25 hydroxy vitamin D level, zinc taste test
response ,and probably previous infections.
Since there are also studies like Flash Drive that show that people who have
recovered from covid-19 infection actually get no benefit from vaccination at all, no
reduction in symptoms, no reduction in hospitalization and suffer two to four times
the rate of side effects if they are subsequently vaccinated.
Therefore, the policies that you are basing on are totally counterfactual.

I don't blame this board for that because I know you aren't scientists and you've
thought it was reasonable to listen to the CDC, NIH and the Indiana State Board of
Health, but I would encourage that instead, you listen to the people out here in this
audience and read what's on that data drive.
And if anybody here in this board has any questions about anything on that, I will
happily come back and sit with you individually. If you would like to explain the
science behind this and if you're worried about being sued by somebody because
you don't follow the guidance of the CDC and the NIH, I will tell you have a free pro
bono expert testimony at your disposal.
I will testify in defense of this court turning down all these recommendations for
free at any time, in any court. Thank you.
Dr Dan Stock
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 10, 2021, 09:42:26 AM
How is that even legal?  Nothing he was was inappropriate, and his knowledge and ability to speak was jaw dropping!  This guy should replace Fauci ASAP!
It is amazing how much of this stuff is censored and most people refuse to even believe it's being censored even right in front of their faces.  It gets frustrating dealing with these retards.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: G_Thang on August 10, 2021, 10:50:42 AM
No vaccine mandates increases staff shortages

BOLDFACE LIES!  I DON'T KNOW ONE PERSON WHO RESIGNED DURING THE PEAK OF THE PANDEMIC LAST YR.  PEOPLE ARE RESIGNING IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO B/C OF THE FUCBOI BULLSHIT IN A SYRINGE WHICH IS ACCELERATING MUTATIONS MANDATE.

I DON'T KNOW ONE PERSON WHO GIVES A FUCK OTHER THAN KAREN WHO IS VACCINATED OR NOT, GIVEN EVERYONE KNOWS THE PROTOCOL SINCE FEBRUARY OF TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING TWENTY.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 10, 2021, 11:06:33 AM
It is amazing how much of this stuff is censored and most people refuse to even believe it's being censored even right in front of their faces.  It gets frustrating dealing with these retards.


There is no point dealing with them at all. Let them die of "unintended consequences" of the vaccine. Culls the herd.


Not just my opinion either. This was punished in May 2021 out of MIT.


Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible [/size]Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines [/size]Against COVID[/size]-[/size]19


https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/51


"Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19"





Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: obsidian on August 10, 2021, 11:30:23 AM
Forgive me if I am extracting a portion of your statements and completely taking them out of context, but I think the bigger question here (which you've sort of posed in your thought process) is why are "they" doing this?"
Depopulation?

The goal is to reduce the population by a thousand cuts. Long term mask wearing will lead to thickened blood (more red blood cells due to lack of oxygen) which increases heart attack risks. The vaccines themselves may kill in the long term. We don't yet know the scope of what's to come. They may be combining different tactics to achieve the result. Perhaps the vaccine cause sterility? It's already been confirmed that Covid itself can cause sterility.

I think this is a bio weapon to reduce the world population, take away personal freedoms, collapse nations into a global government and also enrich a few as a bonus. Trump losing the election as a result of Covid (changing of voting rules to steal the election) falls under the "collapse of nations" part. Look at the illegitimate Biden admin that's allowing third world migrants to invade the USA. This is part of a population replacement agenda. These immigrants won't be Nationalists because they have no history with the host nation. They don't care about the flag, anthem, statues, traditions etc. They bring their own traditions with them.

But put yourself in the shoes of the wealthy elite. They know automation is just around the corner. What possible need could they have for 7 billion or even 10 billion people? How do you feel about the world's population just expanding unchecked? Just recently Africa's population was expected to quadruple by 2100 to 4 billion. You think that would be a good thing? The Earth is a finite size and can only support so many people before things get nasty. Famine, disease, wars, extinction of fauna and flora.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 10, 2021, 12:14:34 PM
Depopulation?

The goal is to reduce the population by a thousand cuts. Long term mask wearing will lead to thickened blood (more red blood cells due to lack of oxygen) which increases heart attack risks. The vaccines themselves may kill in the long term. We don't yet know the scope of what's to come. They may be combining different tactics to achieve the result. Perhaps the vaccine cause sterility? It's already been confirmed that Covid itself can cause sterility.

I think this is a bio weapon to reduce the world population, take away personal freedoms, collapse nations into a global government and also enrich a few as a bonus. Trump losing the election as a result of Covid (changing of voting rules to steal the election) falls under the "collapse of nations" part. Look at the illegitimate Biden admin that's allowing third world migrants to invade the USA. This is part of a population replacement agenda. These immigrants won't be Nationalists because they have no history with the host nation. They don't care about the flag, anthem, statues, traditions etc. They bring their own traditions with them.

But put yourself in the shoes of the wealthy elite. They know automation is just around the corner. What possible need could they have for 7 billion or even 10 billion people? How do you feel about the world's population just expanding unchecked? Just recently Africa's population was expected to quadruple by 2100 to 4 billion. You think that would be a good thing? The Earth is a finite size and can only support so many people before things get nasty. Famine, disease, wars, extinction of fauna and flora.

Insane man, but I'm with you.

It honestly seems like the world's elite .01% are doing the long-term math and realizing that at this pace, sustainability of natural resources will become impossible given our exponential growth in world population. They've probably sat within close circles (think Bilderberg group) and decided that at this rate humanity will incur worldwide famine within the next 10-20 years and have come to the conclusion that depopulation is a "necessary evil". They've now slowly started to put their contingency plan into motion. Disrupting the economies of nations throughout the world (via inflation, unemployment, disruption in currency values etc), introducing a pandemic and experimenting with chemical weapons (ie vaccines).

It's a modern day survival of the fittest at the global scale. We are just too small to be let in on their agenda without being titled a fucking conspiracy nut.

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Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: obsidian on August 10, 2021, 12:42:14 PM
Insane man, but I'm with you.

It honestly seems like the world's elite .01% are doing the long-term math and realizing that at this pace, sustainability of natural resources will become impossible given our exponential growth in world population. They've probably sat within close circles (think Bilderberg group) and decided that at this rate humanity will incur worldwide famine within the next 10-20 years and have come to the conclusion that depopulation is a "necessary evil". They've now slowly started to put their contingency plan into motion. Disrupting the economies of nations throughout the world (via inflation, unemployment, disruption in currency values etc), introducing a pandemic and experimenting with chemical weapons (ie vaccines).

It's a modern day survival of the fittest at the global scale. We are just too small to be let in on their agenda without being titled a fucking conspiracy nut.

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Yes I think you are correct. I myself have been asking how can the world's population keep expanding and living standards raised to the point where the earth's resources is taxed too much?

I think depopulation is a necessary evil. What I don't like is part of their agenda seems to be to take out the white race in the process. I would rather the world's population be reduced to a diverse level where all races have a seat at the table.

It seems however that the globalists are determined to have a mongrelized human race where there are no real distinction and where diversity of races disappears? Perhaps they are thinking wars and strive will be reduced if there is just one mixed race? There would be token races left but these would be a small minority of the global population - around 1-2%. Similar to the situation with Native Americans right now.

Guessing here of course. I am just looking at the actions of the globalist elite and drawing my own conclusions. They are clearly hostile towards white people as a group. This anti-white agenda is becoming more and more transparent and out in the open. Perhaps they see white people as more individualistic and a threat to global governance. Asians tend to be less individualistic so maybe not such a big threat?
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 10, 2021, 01:42:24 PM
Insane man, but I'm with you.

It honestly seems like the world's elite .01% are doing the long-term math and realizing that at this pace, sustainability of natural resources will become impossible given our exponential growth in world population. They've probably sat within close circles (think Bilderberg group) and decided that at this rate humanity will incur worldwide famine within the next 10-20 years and have come to the conclusion that depopulation is a "necessary evil". They've now slowly started to put their contingency plan into motion. Disrupting the economies of nations throughout the world (via inflation, unemployment, disruption in currency values etc), introducing a pandemic and experimenting with chemical weapons (ie vaccines).

It's a modern day survival of the fittest at the global scale. We are just too small to be let in on their agenda without being titled a fucking conspiracy nut.

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By all projections, population is growing at an arithmetic, not geometric or exponential rate. In fact based on fertility rates and the one baby rule in China, the Chinese population will drop in half by 2100. As countries mature the population growth slows and even reverses.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/17/worlds-population-is-projected-to-nearly-stop-growing-by-the-end-of-the-century/


(https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.17_WorldPopulation_World-population-growth-projected-flatten.png?w=200)


This vaccine/panic porn phase we are in is a means to segregate and control the population. It is nothing more than yet another attempt to reach one world government with...you guessed it...the "global elite" at the top.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 10, 2021, 01:50:28 PM
Yes I think you are correct. I myself have been asking how can the world's population keep expanding and living standards raised to the point where the earth's resources is taxed too much?

I think depopulation is a necessary evil. What I don't like is part of their agenda seems to be to take out the white race in the process. I would rather the world's population be reduced to a diverse level where all races have a seat at the table.

It seems however that the globalists are determined to have a mongrelized human race where there are no real distinction and where diversity of races disappears? Perhaps they are thinking wars and strive will be reduced if there is just one mixed race? There would be token races left but these would be a small minority of the global population - around 1-2%. Similar to the situation with Native Americans right now.

Guessing here of course. I am just looking at the actions of the globalist elite and drawing my own conclusions. They are clearly hostile towards white people as a group. This anti-white agenda is becoming more and more transparent and out in the open. Perhaps they see white people as more individualistic and a threat to global governance. Asians tend to be less individualistic so maybe not such a big threat?

One thing is for sure, the next 5-10 years will be paradigm shifting to say the least.

Not sure about why the targeting of the white race particularly. I'm assuming that cellular differential can produce slightly more resilient human beings from a biological standpoint, hence why a hybrid race suits long-term inhabitance here on earth better. Kind of like the logic that is used when comparing dogs, particularly a pure breed versus a mutt. On the surface, purebred dogs look more appealing to the naked eye, but deep inside they tend to be more prone to hereditary disorders given that you dip too often into a shallow gene pool and it makes the dog more likely to inherit health problems. Whereas a mutt tends to be healthier and live longer due to a stronger genetic diversity.

Maybe, just maybe, the elitists are thinking about creating a modern day "mutt" race in that for their purposes (global slave drive for labor purposes) it would make for the healthier and longer lasting slave to enter the future workforce. Yes, the mutt wouldn't be as appealing to the eye, but it would be built to last. Kind of like buying a cheap Toyota that lasts you 20-30 years if you just change the oil once a year versus a range rover that breaks down after 1-2 years and costs you a fortune to keep running.

If I ruled the world, I want to keep it that way. In order to do so, I need a strong human race that can serve me in continuously building my empire. What better race than that of humans that are built with the bodies of Congoid peoples (able to endure the hardest forms of labor and embrace the scorching sun), Japanese lifespan (able to live into the 100's yrs of age) and with the brain capacity of the smartest Germans & Jews? It might not be the Aryan ideal, but for the globalists that run the world and need an adequate force of slaves, it kind of makes perfect sense. Plus, the elitist 0.001%, inbreeding will become a thing again and they will inherit the future world(s) while condemning their mentally disabled children to a desolate ward (much like the royal family did for centuries).

Correct me if you think otherwise..

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Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 10, 2021, 03:06:57 PM

By all projections, population is growing at an arithmetic, not geometric or exponential rate. In fact based on fertility rates and the one baby rule in China, the Chinese population will drop in half by 2100. As countries mature the population growth slows and even reverses.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/17/worlds-population-is-projected-to-nearly-stop-growing-by-the-end-of-the-century/


(https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT_19.06.17_WorldPopulation_World-population-growth-projected-flatten.png?w=200)


This vaccine/panic porn phase we are in is a means to segregate and control the population. It is nothing more than yet another attempt to reach one world government with...you guessed it...the "global elite" at the top.

they no longer have the one baby rule it was raised to two in 2015
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Moontrane on August 10, 2021, 03:44:50 PM
they no longer have the one baby rule it was raised to two in 2015

China now has a three-child policy, but the damage was done with the one-child policy.  Fertility rate in China has dropped to 1.3 per couple.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 10, 2021, 03:45:06 PM
The hole in the population growth argument is the groups that you would think the elites would want depopulated blacks and Hispanics are the least vaccinated.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: IroNat on August 10, 2021, 04:44:44 PM
China now has a three-child policy, but the damage was done with the one-child policy.  Fertility rate in China has dropped to 1.3 per couple.

Getbiggers are willing to go to China and use re-populating techniques.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: loco on August 10, 2021, 05:48:56 PM

It's also the unvaccinated that are allowing the virus to continue to have a large body of hosts that allow the variants to mutate

Natural immunity in those who had the virus and recovered prevents infection.

The vaccine doesn't prevent infection.  It only lowers the risk of hospitalization and/or death after infection.

Because the vaccine doesn't prevent infection, the virus would continue to have a large body of hosts and allow variants to mutate even if everyone was vaccinated.

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: TheGrinch on August 10, 2021, 06:28:06 PM
Ideas on the best state to live in right now and the future where I won't ever have to get my family vaccinated?


From what I'm seeing even if Gov's passed laws prohibiting vax mandates/passports, the local cities/counties/healthboards are overruling the Gov of that state and doing shit anyway.


Best state to run away from this nonsense?

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Earl1972 on August 10, 2021, 07:18:46 PM
Ideas on the best state to live in right now and the future where I won't ever have to get my family vaccinated?


From what I'm seeing even if Gov's passed laws prohibiting vax mandates/passports, the local cities/counties/healthboards are overruling the Gov of that state and doing shit anyway.


Best state to run away from this nonsense?

alaska

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Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: TheGrinch on August 10, 2021, 08:59:55 PM
alaska

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nope.. vaccine mandates allowed there
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: G_Thang on August 10, 2021, 10:07:42 PM
alaska

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Montana and Oregon.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2021, 10:32:55 PM
Montana and Oregon.

Just today, mask mandates in indoor public places has been reinstated by Governor Brown. I expect to see signs at the entries to all major stores as soon as tomorrow. There are still a lot of loopholes for COVID vaccines here though that allow folks to opt out of getting vaccinated. If COVID cases continue to climb, anything is possible. Just when we thought it was safe to go back in the water, a new wave of COVID has splashed over us. Fuck!
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Estimated on August 10, 2021, 11:12:15 PM
I'd like to know if you get the virus while having been vaccinated will you still get natural immunity? I have a been feeling that you wont.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 10, 2021, 11:20:05 PM
Ideas on the best state to live in right now and the future where I won't ever have to get my family vaccinated?


From what I'm seeing even if Gov's passed laws prohibiting vax mandates/passports, the local cities/counties/healthboards are overruling the Gov of that state and doing shit anyway.


Best state to run away from this nonsense?

Texas.

Rural areas.

The big cities are democratic cesspools.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 11, 2021, 04:08:38 AM
Ideas on the best state to live in right now and the future where I won't ever have to get my family vaccinated?

Best state to run away from this nonsense?

Top state in my opinion is likely Florida, given that Desantis is the most outspoken governor against vaccines.

Next state would be Texas. I'm not sure about others on the Westcoast, but I think smaller rural areas might be a good bet.

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Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: IroNat on August 11, 2021, 04:09:28 AM
China now has a three-child policy, but the damage was done with the one-child policy.  Fertility rate in China has dropped to 1.3 per couple.

The Chinee middle class has become accustomed to having 1 child.

The gov't could make people have more though if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2021, 08:48:47 AM
Top state in my opinion is likely Florida, given that Desantis is the most outspoken governor against vaccines.

Next state would be Texas. I'm not sure about others on the Westcoast, but I think smaller rural areas might be a good bet.

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DeSantis isn't against vaccines. Remember that he led the charge to ensure our seniors got vaccinated first. Then came people at least 50 years old. Lastly, it was folks over 35.

What DeSantis opposes is vaccine (and mask) MANDATES. THAT is why he's getting all this flak from the Dem-controlled media.

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 11, 2021, 08:53:53 AM
DeSantis isn't against vaccines. Remember that he led the charge to ensure our seniors got vaccinated first. Then came people at least 50 years old. Lastly, it was folks over 35.

What DeSantis opposes is vaccine (and mask) MANDATES. THAT is why he's getting all this flak from the Dem-controlled media.

This. I have yet to hear a single political person outside of Rand Paul and Thomas Massey even question why the entire population needs to be vaxxed  when it’s only a tiny demographic that’s really in danger.

A classic example of controlled opposition.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 11, 2021, 09:01:29 AM
What DeSantis opposes is vaccine (and mask) MANDATES. THAT is why he's getting all this flak from the Dem-controlled media.

Hey, that's better than nothing. I respect any politician that is against mandates. These mandates are an infringement on our rights.

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Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 11, 2021, 09:23:19 AM
they no longer have the one baby rule it was raised to two in 2015


Correct- but it caused such a discrepancy in the male to female ratio that the demographics (male to female ratio) are now totally messed up.



Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 11, 2021, 09:25:43 AM

Correct- but it caused such a discrepancy in the male to female ratio that the demographics (male to female ratio) are now totally messed up.

Central Planning at its finest😂😂😂

It’s actually an excellent example of the difference between capitalism and socialism. With the former you increase the size of a pie, the latter you decrease the number of people.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: POB on August 11, 2021, 09:41:05 AM
Hey, that's better than nothing. I respect any politician that is against mandates. These mandates are an infringement on our rights.

"1"
I see it this way to why is everyone so concerned with everyone else? Imho we are 18 months in, the shots been available for 10 months time to open up and let the chips fall where they fall. This whole mask no mask, ok not ok, ok for me but not for you needs to end
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 12:16:03 PM

Correct- but it caused such a discrepancy in the male to female ratio that the demographics (male to female ratio) are now totally messed up.
agreed
I know someone who bought a Chinese baby girl, they have hospitals full of them because they get dumped

they paid about 10 grand FFS
thing was fucking cross eyed...
Shudder to think what the 5 grand ones look like.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Zillotch on August 11, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
I know someone who bought a Chinese baby

they paid about 10 grand FFS
thing was fucking cross eyed...
Shudder to think what the 5 grand ones look like.

LMFAO
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2021, 12:30:04 PM
I'd like to know if you get the virus while having been vaccinated will you still get natural immunity? I have a been feeling that you wont.

The CDC urges everyone to be vaccinated because the shot provides better protection than natural immunity. If this is true, why would you want natural immunity over vaccine based immunity? Fact is nobody knows how long natural immunity lasts. They also don't know how long the vaccine will offer you some protection. Viruses vary from one to the other in many way including immunity. Two shots of the pneumonia vaccine is good for life.....depending on whether it is pneumococcal disease or a viral pneumonia. A flu shot is good for about 6 months. The COVID vaccine is good for....virologist don't know how long it is good for because COVID is a new virus, so we are in the learning stage. Also the COVID virus mutates and apparently the resulting variants have different qualities.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: dexitrim on August 11, 2021, 01:23:43 PM
The CDC urges everyone to be vaccinated because the shot provides better protection than natural immunity. If this is true, why would you want natural immunity over vaccine based immunity? Fact is nobody knows how long natural immunity lasts. They also don't know how long the vaccine will offer you some protection. Viruses vary from one to the other in many way including immunity. Two shots of the pneumonia vaccine is good for life.....depending on whether it is pneumococcal disease or a viral pneumonia. A flu shot is good for about 6 months. The COVID vaccine is good for....virologist don't know how long it is good for because COVID is a new virus, so we are in the learning stage. Also the COVID virus mutates and apparently the resulting variants have different qualities.

Where are you getting this information from? Also, I'm massively bummed about Kate Brown's mask mandate.  We've got reservations at McMenamins in Bend this coming Wednesday as part of our road trip.  I really wanted to see what Bend is all about, but not sure I want to mask up, especially when our hotel room is over $400 for one night....on a Wednesday.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 01:26:29 PM
The CDC urges everyone to be vaccinated because the shot provides better protection than natural immunity. If this is true, why would you want natural immunity over vaccine based immunity? Fact is nobody knows how long natural immunity lasts. They also don't know how long the vaccine will offer you some protection. Viruses vary from one to the other in many way including immunity. Two shots of the pneumonia vaccine is good for life.....depending on whether it is pneumococcal disease or a viral pneumonia. A flu shot is good for about 6 months. The COVID vaccine is good for....virologist don't know how long it is good for because COVID is a new virus, so we are in the learning stage. Also the COVID virus mutates and apparently the resulting variants have different qualities.

Fucks sake a paragrapgh of zero worth to anyone
Just guess work and contradictions.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: loco on August 11, 2021, 01:28:35 PM
the shot provides better protection than natural immunity.

What?  How?

Natural immunity prevents infection, and therefore it prevents virus transmission too.  So it protects you and others too.

The vaccine doesn't prevent infection or transmission.  It only lowers the risk of hospitalization and/or death after infection.  So it protects you, but not others as it doesn't keep you from getting infected and spreading the virus.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: joswift on August 11, 2021, 01:59:47 PM
What?  How?

Natural immunity prevents infection, and therefore it prevents virus transmission too.  So it protects you and others too.

The vaccine doesn't prevent infection or transmission.  It only lowers the risk of hospitalization and/or death after infection.  So it protects you, but not others as it doesn't keep you from getting infected and spreading the virus.

Allegedly
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: The Scott on August 11, 2021, 02:34:09 PM
Odd that these same self-righteous twatlings did not force the wearing of condoms on the so-called  homosexual "community" or the equally licentious swinger "community" when AIDS was set to destroy the world.  Fauci is eVile and the medical spokesimp of Biden aka,  The Mouthpiece of Snoron
(https://i.imgflip.com/5jb0g2.jpg)

Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: avxo on August 11, 2021, 05:42:45 PM
Odd that these same self-righteous twatlings did not force the wearing of condoms on the so-called  homosexual "community" or the equally licentious swinger "community" when AIDS was set to destroy the world.  Fauci is eVile and the medical spokesimp of Biden aka,  The Mouthpiece of Snoron
(https://i.imgflip.com/5jb0g2.jpg)

The level of idiocy exhibited on here is almost painful at times.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Howard on August 11, 2021, 05:57:27 PM
we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...

It's the same fear based nonsense from 136 yrs ago. Trying to help people and they want to kill 'em. ::)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mandatory-vaccinations-triggered-riot-montreal-113751233.html
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: joswift on August 12, 2021, 07:47:28 AM
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Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 12, 2021, 07:50:15 AM
It's the same fear based nonsense from 136 yrs ago. Trying to help people and they want to kill 'em. ::)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mandatory-vaccinations-triggered-riot-montreal-113751233.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/mandatory-vaccinations-triggered-riot-montreal-113751233.html)


Not even close. Of course only you know better, right? lol
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2021, 11:35:01 AM
Where are you getting this information from? Also, I'm massively bummed about Kate Brown's mask mandate.  We've got reservations at McMenamins in Bend this coming Wednesday as part of our road trip.  I really wanted to see what Bend is all about, but not sure I want to mask up, especially when our hotel room is over $400 for one night....on a Wednesday.

Sorry thought it was obvious that it was from the CDC. Here's the link: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

Bummer about having to mask up. If your reservations are for a meal or drinks, while your eating and drinking you obvious don't need to wear a mask. Never stayed at this Mcmenanins. There rooms there aren't cheap, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Covid hoax unravelling
Post by: Primemuscle on August 12, 2021, 11:44:20 AM
Fucks sake a paragrapgh of zero worth to anyone
Just guess work and contradictions.

Do you have information that says otherwise about pneumonia vaccines? I'd be interested in knowing about it since I have had two pneumonia vaccines at my doctor's suggestion. I've had bronchial pneumonia several times beginning in infancy, which has been treated with antibiotics because it is a bacterial and not viral pneumonia. The doctor told me I was more susceptible to pneumonia because of my history with having it and being asthmatic as well as having allergies which affect my breathing. Since getting the two pneumonia vaccines, I've not had a bout with bronchial pneumonia is several years. Seems like they did something positive for my health. 
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Ssxa on August 12, 2021, 12:29:56 PM
Regarding the best states to move to, Florida and Texas are probably the best. There are other states like South Dakota that won’t put restrictions and mandates on you, but it’s a lifestyle change for most. I can tell you, Hawaii is among the worst.

Nobody really knows and true information is so hard to come by online, seems like the majority of the population is brainwashed. What I do believe is that vaccines are going to cause long term side effects. We already know some of having reproductive issues as well as other heath problems such as myocarditis, and most troubling myocarditis seems like it affects younger adults for some reason. It’s also been explained online, but the COVID vaccine doesn’t kill the carrier like polio or smallpox for example, and because of this may cause it to become stronger as other strains. Somewhat similar to why they tell you to finish up your antibiotics. I also believe people who get vaccinated are in fact the super spreaders, not the unvaxxed.
Statistics and the vast majority of information online stretches the truth or is flat out false. Everything is censored towards their goal of mandating everyone get the vaccine. Does anyone really trust the CDC or FDA? If the FDA approves the vaccine, you can bet your life it will become mandated everywhere. The end goal is enormous wealth for the elites, population control, a worldwide centralized government and the elimination of people to be self sufficient... government dependent robots, and it’s already working. Think the dems push for defunding the police... chaos rules, individual districts and states cannot control crime etc, then boom, federal government steps in and takes over... slowly but surely we end up with a federalized police force overseeing the nation as a whole.
Exercise, maintain a healthy weight, take Zinc, Vit C, Vit D and if you get sick, find a doc to prescribe Ivermectin. That’s my plan anyway.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: bigkid on August 12, 2021, 12:44:21 PM
Regarding the best states to move to, Florida and Texas are probably the best. There are other states like South Dakota that won’t put restrictions and mandates on you, but it’s a lifestyle change for most. I can tell you, Hawaii is among the worst.

Nobody really knows and true information is so hard to come by online, seems like the majority of the population is brainwashed. What I do believe is that vaccines are going to cause long term side effects. We already know some of having reproductive issues as well as other heath problems such as myocarditis, and most troubling myocarditis seems like it affects younger adults for some reason. It’s also been explained online, but the COVID vaccine doesn’t kill the carrier like polio or smallpox for example, and because of this may cause it to become stronger as other strains. Somewhat similar to why they tell you to finish up your antibiotics. I also believe people who get vaccinated are in fact the super spreaders, not the unvaxxed.
Statistics and the vast majority of information online stretches the truth or is flat out false. Everything is censored towards their goal of mandating everyone get the vaccine. Does anyone really trust the CDC or FDA? If the FDA approves the vaccine, you can bet your life it will become mandated everywhere. The end goal is enormous wealth for the elites, population control, a worldwide centralized government and the elimination of people to be self sufficient... government dependent robots, and it’s already working. Think the dems push for defunding the police... chaos rules, individual districts and states cannot control crime etc, then boom, federal government steps in and takes over... slowly but surely we end up with a federalized police force overseeing the nation as a whole.
Exercise, maintain a healthy weight, take Zinc, Vit C, Vit D and if you get sick, find a doc to prescribe Ivermectin. That’s my plan anyway.
You can actually do a tele-medicine visit and get ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine ahead of time, just in case.  If you want to.  That's what I did.
Title: Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
Post by: G_Thang on August 13, 2021, 11:58:58 PM
It's the same fear based nonsense from 136 yrs ago. Trying to help people and they want to kill 'em. ::)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mandatory-vaccinations-triggered-riot-montreal-113751233.html

Look here Howard the Dork. Everyone does not need these experimental vaccines. That is about antibodies per ML of blood, recognition, and response time. 



Serum test aka #4

Over a year later, his natural antibodies are the same as the idiot vaccine crew.  Why is it important for him to get a shot other than bullshit?  Kids' immune responses are even more prolific.

I understand your genetics and pathology tell you to the very core to believe anything your daddy tells you but you have to think out the box sometimes.  Your daddy has a bad history and still exhibits it till today such as trying to transport an AD5 Vector Vaccine to Africa which was linked to possible increases in HIV positive outcomes in a country plagued by HIV infections.

Rip Marvin Hagler, the ultimate casualty of a poorly designed, rushed phase 4 compound in a syringe, but his wife said he died with a smile on his face!


Sally is a wonderful woman, definitely not the Sally from Oblivion.



Sally
Remember, "Fifteen days to flatten the curve?"  Well, here we are at fifteen months and counting, yet they tell us the curve is still not flat enough.  The strategy was all wrong.  We should have protected the vulnerable (the elderly and the health-compromised) and allowed everyone else to experience Covid in the same way they experience the flu.  The virus is endemic and we will never be rid of it.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: G_Thang on August 14, 2021, 12:29:31 AM


#3
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: G_Thang on August 14, 2021, 12:30:55 AM


Ban for telling the truth.  Get that bullshit in a syringe.

Foolishness vaccinating perfectly healthy 5-year-olds.  ::)  Ban this man.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: joswift on August 14, 2021, 05:43:41 AM
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Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: G_Thang on August 14, 2021, 05:51:31 AM
There's always a smart man in the crowd. If I was g a y like some getbiggers, I'd make him my bish.

KEVIN

6 minutes ago

Viruses mutate when there is a reason to mutate for survival. According to fauci, the unvaccinated are causing the mutations, but that is illogical. It is far more likely that the unnatural antibodies of people who are vaccinated are causing the mutations.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: joswift on August 14, 2021, 05:53:48 AM
There's always a smart man in the crowd. If I was g a y like some getbiggers, I'd make him my bish.

KEVIN

6 minutes ago

Viruses mutate when there is a reason to mutate for survival. According to fauci, the unvaccinated are causing the mutations, but that is illogical. It is far more likely that the unnatural antibodies of people who are vaccinated are causing the mutations.


I said that months ago...
I likened it to bacteria that resist antibiotics, the more you use antibiotics the stronger the bacteria become.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: G_Thang on August 14, 2021, 07:58:54 AM
I said that months ago...
I likened it to bacteria that resist antibiotics, the more you use antibiotics the stronger the bacteria become.

Exactly!  And also take into account delta and lambda should be more contagious but should have a lower mortality rate (keep the host alive under all circumstances so they can be transmitted) under normal conditions, immune responses, unless there are abnormal compounds driving lethal mutations.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 14, 2021, 08:33:37 AM
The vaccine is merely a way to transfer wealth to the medical establishment. The more jabs they get into peoples arms the more vaccines the government buys, with money created out of thin air, from the medical establishment which then funnels the money to medical organizations which are also in bed with governments. It’s a giant circle jerk of fraud.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: loco on August 16, 2021, 11:44:14 AM
"Iceland is proof that COVID-19 vaccines work, a leading US expert said. Infections are at record highs, but the nation hasn't recorded a single virus death since May."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iceland-proof-covid-19-vaccines-152930628.html

How then is the vaccine preventing virus mutations?  It doesn't prevent or even minimize infection.  Why are vaccinated people still blaming the unvaccinated for virus infections and mutations?
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: IroNat on August 16, 2021, 12:31:22 PM
"Iceland is proof that COVID-19 vaccines work, a leading US expert said. Infections are at record highs, but the nation hasn't recorded a single virus death since May."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iceland-proof-covid-19-vaccines-152930628.html

How then is the vaccine preventing virus mutations?  It doesn't prevent or even minimize infection.  Why are vaccinated people still blaming the unvaccinated for virus infections and mutations?

The Covid vax does not prevent mutations.  Maybe they thought it would but it does not.

Covid is a virus that mutates like the flu.

It will continue to mutate over and over so the annual or twice annual Covid vax will be a constant thing like getting annual flu shots.

Blaming the un-vaxxed for re-infections is idiotic but this idea persists.

However, getting a vax for measles which does not mutate and provides lifetime immunity protects those who cannot for some reason get the measles vax.

It's a different situation entirely.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: jwb on August 25, 2021, 06:55:10 PM
The Covid vax does not prevent mutations.  Maybe they thought it would but it does not.

Covid is a virus that mutates like the flu.

It will continue to mutate over and over so the annual or twice annual Covid vax will be a constant thing like getting annual flu shots.

Blaming the un-vaxxed for re-infections is idiotic but this idea persists.

However, getting a vax for measles which does not mutate and provides lifetime immunity protects those who cannot for some reason get the measles vax.

It's a different situation entirely.
blaming the unvaxed for wasting millions in treatments and overtaxing medical staff is perfectly valid though…
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 25, 2021, 09:42:32 PM
blaming the unvaxed for wasting millions in treatments and overtaxing medical staff is perfectly valid though…

Ridiculous...we have open borders that are letting in 10’s of thousands of illegals per day with a lot of infections, non-vaxxed (not that it matters) being put on planes, busses and trains being resettled around the country and you want to blame the unvaccinated?
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 25, 2021, 10:05:14 PM
blaming the unvaxed for wasting millions in treatments and overtaxing medical staff is perfectly valid though…

I'm not "vaxxed" and haven't needed medical treatment.

I've been to 17 different states in the last year and 3 different Countries.

The hospitals in my state are less than 15% Covid.

Not nearly maxed, they are at 72% capacity which is normal for this time of year.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: G_Thang on August 26, 2021, 09:32:19 AM
blaming the unvaxed for wasting millions in treatments and overtaxing medical staff is perfectly valid though…

You're telling me the unvaxed are the reason for delta, lambda and mu on the way which goes completely against viral mutation logic.  You literally had a downward curve before the 1st fucboi vax was administered.  piss poor long term memory as usual!

Actually, the main stress in HC at this moment is, workers fighting against the system b/c they don't want to take that bullshit in a syringe.  Take in from someone who has had numerous conversions.  If you have worked in a covid type environment since last Jan/Feb of 2020, how afraid are you of covid?
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 26, 2021, 09:37:30 AM
You're telling me the unvaxed are the reason for delta, lambda and mu on the way which goes completely against viral mutation logic.  You literally had a downward curve before the 1st fucboi vax was administered.  piss poor long term memory as usual!

This is from CVS. They’re not even claiming that it prevents infection or stops the spread:

“After detailed review of clinical trials, the FDA advises that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is safe and effective in preventing serious illness caused by COVID-19, and is fully approved for ages 16 and older.”
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 26, 2021, 01:05:17 PM
Ridiculous...we have open borders that are letting in 10’s of thousands of illegals per day with a lot of infections, non-vaxxed (not that it matters) being put on planes, busses and trains being resettled around the country and you want to blame the unvaccinated?


West will now get 100 000's of Pakis @ borders who will pretend to be Afgans refugees !.

Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: jwb on August 26, 2021, 10:40:47 PM
You're telling me the unvaxed are the reason for delta, lambda and mu on the way which goes completely against viral mutation logic.  You literally had a downward curve before the 1st fucboi vax was administered.  piss poor long term memory as usual!

Actually, the main stress in HC at this moment is, workers fighting against the system b/c they don't want to take that bullshit in a syringe.  Take in from someone who has had numerous conversions.  If you have worked in a covid type environment since last Jan/Feb of 2020, how afraid are you of covid?
I didn’t say the unvaxed caused Delta any more than the vaxed.

My wife is a Radiologist reading studies from the Dallas area. All day she is talking to doctors in the ER complaining how taxed they are by all these young unvaxed people filling their hospitals when, if they had gotten vaxed months ago, most of them wouldn’t be there right now.

Most of the hospitals she covers have stopped most elective procedures, so people with sometimes unavoidable illnesses are being affected by these dingleberries who didn’t get vaxed.

She is also being told of patients abusing doctors for 1) being told they have Covid because that can’t be possible, or 2) not giving them the vaccine when they are sick when being asked to do so.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Megalodon on August 26, 2021, 10:57:51 PM
Covid lockdowns: Private Woke will point her gun at YOU! Makes you wonder where Biden means when he says they need the troops in places a lot closer to home. No wonder the NYT is smearing White gentile male marines as neo-nazis. They want resistance to bolshevik tyranny out of the military.

Cross her and she'll murder you:



(https://i.postimg.cc/prYM9Gh9/49505996-303.jpg)

(https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1430574656944287744/photo/1)
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: kreator on August 26, 2021, 11:45:55 PM
I didn’t say the unvaxed caused Delta any more than the vaxed.

My wife is a Radiologist reading studies from the Dallas area. All day she is talking to doctors in the ER complaining how taxed they are by all these young unvaxed people filling their hospitals when, if they had gotten vaxed months ago, most of them wouldn’t be there right now.

Most of the hospitals she covers have stopped most elective procedures, so people with sometimes unavoidable illnesses are being affected by these dingleberries who didn’t get vaxed.

She is also being told of patients abusing doctors for 1) being told they have Covid because that can’t be possible, or 2) not giving them the vaccine when they are sick when being asked to do so.

Your wife is getting dicked down by one of those doctors. 100%. It happens everywhere
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: AbrahamG on August 26, 2021, 11:56:57 PM
Your wife is getting dicked down by one of those doctors. 100%. It happens everywhere

That is terrific insight.  Thank you for sharing this.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2021, 01:16:43 AM
Covid lockdowns: Private Woke will point her gun at YOU! Makes you wonder where Biden means when he says they need the troops in places a lot closer to home. No wonder the NYT is smearing White gentile male marines as neo-nazis. They want resistance to bolshevik tyranny out of the military.

Cross her and she'll murder you:



(https://i.postimg.cc/prYM9Gh9/49505996-303.jpg)

(https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1430574656944287744/photo/1)

The military has already gone fully woke. All gay air force crews and everything.
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Primemuscle on August 27, 2021, 03:43:50 PM
Ridiculous...we have open borders that are letting in 10’s of thousands of illegals per day with a lot of infections, non-vaxxed (not that it matters) being put on planes, busses and trains being resettled around the country and you want to blame the unvaccinated?

Immigrants are tested for COVID and unvaccinated citizens of the U.S. are not unless they travel to another country that requires it.

Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 03:54:46 PM
Ridiculous...we have open borders that are letting in 10’s of thousands of illegals per day with a lot of infections, non-vaxxed (not that it matters) being put on planes, busses and trains being resettled around the country and you want to blame the unvaccinated?

Drive down to the  Southern border of Cal with some of your football trainees.
Then  take turns tackling the damn border runners .
Once you get 'em down , you can inject them with a vax.

Then slap their ass and say ; " This is how American's play futbol  ;D"
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 04:12:39 PM
Your wife is getting dicked down by one of those doctors. 100%. It happens everywhere

You still butthurt from your husband leaving you for a handsome surgeon?
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: AbrahamG on August 27, 2021, 05:11:56 PM
You still butthurt from your husband leaving you for a handsome surgeon?

Pretty obvious isn't it?
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 28, 2021, 03:02:07 AM
The man-made virus is of course real. The hoax is how its being played out to the people.
China should pay for what they did, as should 'Garden Gnome' Fraudci. They are the hoaxters.
Fraudci works for the company that own one of the Vax patents.

As Matt stated, global population went up by 80 million as usual. In a real pandemic, that doesn't happen, many (MANY) millions are wiped out.
Not just the "mainly" sick and obese as we're seeing here w/ this. 99.8% survival rate, scary.  ::)

If the world was fit and healthy, number would be much lower. Heck, Cuomo himself killed many thousands.

Its not a hoax, and people pushing back aren't 'conspiracy theorists' just folks (they) who may question retards.
If you just sit back, listen, do as your told, YOU are one of the retards. Simple...

Question everything, always...
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 28, 2021, 03:16:44 AM
You’re right. You should question everything even the China bullshit. Even if they had some experiment with a virus that got out that doesn’t mean it infected the entire world. As far as making China pay, the fucks in Washington should be thanking China. The virus hasn’t affected them one bit. Pelosi and others have continually broken rules they imposed on others and have yet to get sick. Meanwhile they get to spend trillions as a result of this fraud.

As I’ve said, “hoax” is the wrong word. The right ones are “scheme” and “scam.”
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: kreator on August 28, 2021, 04:09:23 AM
You still butthurt from your husband leaving you for a handsome surgeon?

I miss him so much
Title: Re: Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
Post by: G_Thang on August 28, 2021, 04:09:30 AM
You’re right. You should question everything even the China bullshit. Even if they had some experiment with a virus that got out that doesn’t mean it infected the entire world. As far as making China pay, the fucks in Washington should be thanking China. The virus hasn’t affected them one bit. Pelosi and others have continually broken rules they imposed on others and have yet to get sick. Meanwhile they get to spend trillions as a result of this fraud.

As I’ve said, “hoax” is the wrong word. The right ones are “scheme” and “scam.”

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