I am in total agreement. China caused this problem. Ignore for a moment that this may very well have originated from a lab (despite denials galore, lol). See: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/ (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/)
The real problem was hiding it. Four weeks advance notice globally would have been an eternity to prepare. But tyrannical dictatorships can't ever appear weak so they covered it all up.
This isn't the end though. The hygienic practices in China as a whole are truly deplorable. Yes, I have witnessed animals being slaughtered in those wet markets while in China. Truly disgusting. And I have seen dog meat hanging at vendor stalls. Do you really believe that another virus won't be spread in the coming years? And there are several infectious disease and germ warfare labs in China that have pretty bad safety practices as well.
The solution is to crack China's economy by no longer buying from them. They need to be banished back to the 5th century where they belong.
Never happen though unless people stop completely buying anything from Amazon, Walmart, Wayfair, Dollar Store, etc...
No way
It is a nice thought but even in the midst of this we are depending on China for medical supplies.
What could go wrong with this
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/02/patriots-retrieve-more-than-a-million-n95-masks-from-china/#comments
About every 15 years a animal - to - human virus comes from china. The chinese people have extremely sadistic, perverted and inhuman eating habits. (Skinning animal alive, eating cats and dogs, eating live animals, destroying and killing every bit of nature they can).
China also is the biggest polluter in the world.
The chinese corona virus is causing massive damage to our economies (Apart from the thousands of people who died, or will die from Covid-19)
For weeks the chinese communist dictatorship kept silent about the virus. However, they did have time to keep the independent nation of Taiwan out of the World Health Organisation.
China cheats, lies, copies, and spies on every country they can.
For example: they even copy EU safety marks for products:
(https://radio2.be/sites/default/files/components-images/2019-10/FakeCEmark_0.png)
This way consumers think they buy a safe product, but it often contains toxic materials, was made by forced labour, and made with lots of air and water pollution.
As china now offers "help" to some countries hit by the chinese virus (often just 100,000 dollars worth of second rate mouth and nose masks), they try to mislead public opinion.
100 billion dollars in damage per country cannot be undone by such symbolic "donations".
As china will refuse to compensate for all economic damage (and loss of jobs, bankruptcys etc), I think the best way to hit back at the corrupt chinese communists is to stop buying their low quality products.
Huawei, Ali Express, Alibaba, Xiaomi smartphones, cars built in china etc etc
It's the only way the chronically lying chinese "leaders" will change their ways!
I hardly ever agree with you guys, but this is a great idea. You guys should boycott all chinese products, and if you already have some, throw them away immediately. Starting from smart phones, computers, PlayStations, Flat screens , all the electronics is build with chinese components, so get rid of that crap right now. Then check all labels in your clothes and burn all chinese procuts, shoes etc. and rip your appliances in the pieces, because all of them are filled by chinese parts. Even the LAN cable which connect you in the internet is made in china, so cut it to the pieces by pliers ;D
I want to see all these fools really boycott China products
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/global-battle-coronavirus-equipment-masks-tests (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/global-battle-coronavirus-equipment-masks-tests)
US buyers waving wads of cash managed to wrest control of a consignment of masks as it was about to be dispatched from China to one of the worst-hit coronavirus areas of France, according to two French officials.
The masks were on a plane at Shanghai airport that was ready to take off when the US buyers turned up and offered three times what their French counterparts were paying.
Jean Rottner, a doctor and president of the GrandEst regional council, said part of the order of several million masks heading for the region, where intensive care units are inundated with Covid-19 patients, had been lost to the buyers.
“On the tarmac, they arrive, get the cash out … so we really have to fight,” he told RTL radio.
Rottner would not identify the buyers, who they were working for or which US state the cargo was flown to, but another French official also involved in procuring masks from China said the group were acting for the US government.
I've been avoiding Chinese products (to the extent that it's possible) for many years.
Boycott Chinese products? Okay, you go first.
Start by throwing away your TV, cell phone, computer, coffee maker, toaster, blender, light bulbs, headphones, bluetooth.
After you're finished with that, we can get started on your non electronic items. :D
Same here. Especially foods, pet foods or anything else that's ingested or goes on the skin, like shampoo, soaps, hand sanitizers, lotions, mouthwash, makeup, kleenex...
Yes - I do that too. Same with these items from dollar stores [I won't buy them from dollar stores].
I think there may have been a tainted dog food incident with food manufactured in China - around 2014 or something like that.
Same here. Especially foods, pet foods or anything else that's ingested or goes on the skin, like shampoo, soaps, hand sanitizers, lotions, mouthwash, makeup, kleenex...
Yeah I would have thought the dog food issue would have really put the nail in the coffin for China, people don’t care.
I find it funny when the media blasts people for being selfish, going out in public, social events, etc... like they don’t understand our culture. Hypocrisy.
Matt do you know where I can find a Chinese knock off of a Mike Ohearn wax statue?
The last few sports shoes I've bought have been made in Thailand and Vietnam.
My recent Nikon camera was made in Thailand, as was a new lens I bought for it.
Plenty of other countries which can make quality products.
If businesses pull out of China they can invest in several countries in South East Asia and South Asia.
Wait is this boycott retroactive?
Is the request to get rid of already purchased products? Or to not buy them in the future?
What if we’ve been to China in the past? Should we go back and tell them it was a mistake you ever came there in the first place?
Same here. Especially foods, pet foods or anything else that's ingested or goes on the skin, like shampoo, soaps, hand sanitizers, lotions, mouthwash, makeup, kleenex...
Trump was so right on China the Dems shouldn't even run this time around.
It's not like we didn't know the seasonal flu comes from China every year. They take zero responsibility and attack any criticism. In fact the wording they use sounds a lot like CNN/MSNBC.
Here is Red China in full view, blaming the USA for having their disease that they hid from the world while people from Wuhan freely flew all over the world for the New Year:
“Some U.S. officials just want to shift the blame,” Hua told a regular briefing in Beijing. “Actually we don’t want to fall into an argument with them, but faced with such repeated moral slander by them, I feel compelled to take some time and clarify the truth again.”
Hua questioned the speed of the U.S.’s response to the virus after banning arrivals from China on Feb. 2. “Can anyone tell us what the U.S. has done in the following two months?” she said.
https://time.com/5814313/china-denies-hiding-coronavirus/
Trump is the only leader who has the guts to stand up against the chinese filth and terror. All other western "leaders" are scared of china.
Even though practically all countries buy a lot more from china, than they buy from us.
Terrible trade balance, in their favor alas
Hopefull production / manufacturing will now shift to other countries than china.
Perhaps I'm sounding naive, but I do hope this is a giant and nasty wake up call to politicians all over the world to rethink doing business with the chinese dictator
I've been avoiding Chinese products (to the extent that it's possible) for many years. Fuck that country and everyone who lives there. Lying Communist filth.
Yet the raws for ALL the gear you use acmes from China.
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So you are an idiot, aren't you? How about some facts: They make LG, Lenovo, Huawei, ONE +, Xiaomi, ZTE, TCL/Alcatel, Huawei, Coolpad,etc. and all and any sort of electronic components, used in just about all electric products there is, used by your military in its missiles, weapons etc. You are using chinese products just about every second in your life, not least when you are writing that crap in this forum, beating chinese keyboard, connected in the computer made in china, or computer which maybe is assembled outside of china, but with parts made in china. Throw out everything in your apartment, lock all the doors and windows, and sit naked in dark in the empty room. That is only way to avoid using any chinese products, because even in that light bulp has chinese parts in it ;DWho says do it right away?! 100 years ago what did China make compared to the USA? Traitors and greedy elite in the west outsourced manufacturing to China over decades. But they were stupid because eventually these elite would be replaced by their Chinese counterparts.
Boycott Chinese products? Okay, you go first.
Start by throwing away your TV, cell phone, computer, coffee maker, toaster, blender, light bulbs, headphones, bluetooth.
After you're finished with that, we can get started on your non electronic items. :D
Isnt all steroids made in china?
Good luck with a boycott on a bodybuilding forum ;D
Isnt all steroids made in china?
Good luck with a boycott on a bodybuilding forum ;D
Who says do it right away?! 100 years ago what did China make compared to the USA? Traitors and greedy elite in the west outsourced manufacturing to China over decades. But they were stupid because eventually these elite would be replaced by their Chinese counterparts.
If people boycott Chinese products then eventually someone else will fill the void. A politician like Trump is also helpful because he places tariffs on China. Too bad there are not more politicians like Trump. You think Obama, Clinton or Biden would have stood up to China?! LOL!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand)
does the boycott extend to protective gear?
You should ask what was china 1000 years a go, or 2000 years ago, because china is one of the oldest organized society on this planet. During the history of the mankind, countless inventions has come from there. What was USA 2000 years ago? Some bare butt Indian braves living in the tents, eating rodents ;D
As stupid as you are, you don't understand that you don't know shit about the china, because it has been communist country last 80 years. By it's 1,4 billion people they could do anything they want, and Trump knows it. It doesn't take long before he is kissing their ass just like nothing has ever happen. Just like South Korea, Russia etc. best friends of his ;D
Ron has spoken. He is not willing to voluntarily give up, Sticky Orange Chicken. Therefore, the boycott is OFF!!! :o
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand)
does the boycott extend to protective gear?
Boycott Chinese products? Okay, you go first.
Start by throwing away your TV, cell phone, computer, coffee maker, toaster, blender, light bulbs, headphones, bluetooth.
After you're finished with that, we can get started on your non electronic items. :D
You should ask what was china 1000 years a go, or 2000 years ago, because china is one of the oldest organized society on this planet. During the history of the mankind, countless inventions has come from there. What was USA 2000 years ago? Some bare butt Indian braves living in the tents, eating rodents ;D
As stupid as you are, you don't understand that you don't know shit about the china, because it has been communist country last 80 years. By it's 1,4 billion people they could do anything they want, and Trump knows it. It doesn't take long before he is kissing their ass just like nothing has ever happen. Just like South Korea, Russia etc. best friends of his ;D
You should ask what was china 1000 years a go, or 2000 years ago, because china is one of the oldest organized society on this planet. During the history of the mankind, countless inventions has come from there. What was USA 2000 years ago? Some bare butt Indian braves living in the tents, eating rodents ;D
As stupid as you are, you don't understand that you don't know shit about the china, because it has been communist country last 80 years. By it's 1,4 billion people they could do anything they want, and Trump knows it. It doesn't take long before he is kissing their ass just like nothing has ever happen. Just like South Korea, Russia etc. best friends of his ;D
Agreed,
The CCP's role in causing tens of thousands of deaths and inflicting trillions of dollars in economic loses cannot be denied by anyone with any common sense.
A grassroots boycott is easier than you think. Obviously, until the world moves critical supply chains out of China we are dependent on them for drugs, medical devices, etc.
However, the individual consumer can make a difference. Do not buy any food products from China, read the label there are plenty of alternatives. Do not buy any electronic items from a Chinese manufacturer. Yes, many Korean and Japanese products are assembled in China but at least the corporate ownership and profits go out of the country.
Do not buy products from Western companies owned by China. e.g. Volvo.
Pressure your local political representatives, particularly Democrats who have had their head in the sand re. China since the Clinton years.
Make a difference, read labels. Be prepared to spend a little more for things made anywhere other than China.
Agreed,
The CCP's role in causing tens of thousands of deaths and inflicting trillions of dollars in economic loses cannot be denied by anyone with any common sense.
A grassroots boycott is easier than you think. Obviously, until the world moves critical supply chains out of China we are dependent on them for drugs, medical devices, etc.
However, the individual consumer can make a difference. Do not buy any food products from China, read the label there are plenty of alternatives. Do not buy any electronic items from a Chinese manufacturer. Yes, many Korean and Japanese products are assembled in China but at least the corporate ownership and profits go out of the country.
Do not buy products from Western companies owned by China. e.g. Volvo.
Pressure your local political representatives, particularly Democrats who have had their head in the sand re. China since the Clinton years.
Make a difference, read labels. Be prepared to spend a little more for things made anywhere other than China.
Several years ago a discussion started about Western countries being very dependent on rare earth raw materials often coming from china.
This chinese created disease shows once again how risky it is to be dependent on such chronic lying and manipulating communist dictator run countries. Especially for medication and such
Let's be honest: there literally is nothing that's being made in china that we cannot make ourselves. And with better quality and and with less toxic materials.
Better for the environment too, as less ships and planes need to travel between higly polluting chinese factories and the end consumers.
President Trump was right: build factories in the USA, instead of china
(All of Volvo's Polestar brand's products are made in china, alas)
This virus was an 'act of God'....I don't blame anyone....
But anyone who eats dogs is a scumbag in my opinion and of all my dealings with Chinese on Ebay about 50% have been negative because of their lack of integrity...
This virus was an 'act of God'....I don't blame anyone....
But anyone who eats dogs is a scumbag in my opinion and of all my dealings with Chinese on Ebay about 50% have been negative because of their lack of integrity...
Now I know you are a fucking troll, lol. I visited the Chinese National Museum in Taipei on my last visit there. A complete history is on display of all Chinese art and technology for over 5000 years. China on its own was one of the most backward countries in history. The first watch in Chinese history was a bad copy of one given to an emperor by the British in the 1800’s. They are about original as your posts Ropo, haha
:-*
Quite a shocking video about "The Black Death":
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw2OBCfXsEo
it shows several pandemics in human history....and they all seems to have originated in...china....
These people have been spreading deadly diseases for more than 1,500 years now!
Killing more than 200,000,000 people!
in the year 1347 a very deadly virus came from...hubei / wuhan, china
Yet even in 2020 the chinese still make the same mistakes, and continue to eat and torture exotic animals alive, and ravage our societies.
China should be isolated for centuries!
Gooks copy and make interior cheaper products, they are not innovators, they destroy everything they come in contact with. Vile sub human creatures with no soul.
Same here. Especially foods, pet foods or anything else that's ingested or goes on the skin, like shampoo, soaps, hand sanitizers, lotions, mouthwash, makeup, kleenex...
Boycotting the local Panda Express doesn’t count
The much bigger issue is to get manufacturing back to the U.S. People buy what's available at the best price. I do believe that more people than ever will avoid Chinese anything as much as they can but it's only when our country brings manufacturing and production back here. Also, though I philosophically don't believe in tariffs because it results in higher prices for everybody this is not just about economics. We have to start putting tariffs and even limitations on all products coming out of China.
Yeah, Chinese restaurants get their food and produce from the same places grocery stores do. And it's not like the money they make goes to China.
How are we going to do that? US workers demand higher pay range, and quality of work isn’t up to par to made in Germany or japan ;D
Then we buy from Germany and Japan. And the quality of American products are some of the best in the world. It depends on how much you want to pay. No matter what you buy: cars, air conditioners, dirt bikes, guns, the quality you get is determined on how much you want to pay. It is not accurate to say that Japan and Germany make better products across the board than Americans. Chinese makes crap across the board.
After what China did to us, what they continue to do to us today and in the past, people will be more willing than ever to make sacrifices to crush China. The government has to make an active campaign reminding people of this. Just like they do with smoking, drinking, drunk driving and vaping...
This virus was an 'act of God'....I don't blame anyone....
But anyone who eats dogs is a scumbag in my opinion and of all my dealings with Chinese on Ebay about 50% have been negative because of their lack of integrity...
Which god would that be? Heck, the Hindus have thousands
Which god would that be? Heck, the Hindus have thousands
I'm not boycotting anything. Where else would I get electronics?
Try 330 million.
I don't see people boycotting cheap Chinese products. If anything it will intensify as the Chinese government will look to do damage limitation, so shoddy Chinese manufacturers will be forced to shut down or produce better quality goods.
Give it a few months and people will adjust to the new normal. Give it 18 months and everyone will be back to their consumerism and Islam will be the big baddie again.
It's easy to tell you have zero experience in business. Supply chains are already being rerouted and a number of my main vendors are sourcing outside China. A lot of them have said this was the last straw. The trade war will escalate after the 2020 election and China will suffer a depression. So much for your Islam theory.
Yes, I made a post about this recently.
And before the Black Death, the Justinian Plague of the Eastern Roman Empire also originated from the Far East, probably China as well, as they had contact with them via trade.
Bubonic Plague, the Black Death still exists in China and there were cases at the end of last year.
Seems almost every plague since 550 AD has originated from China.
Recently there has been Bird Flu, Swine Flu, SARS and now COVID-19, all these worldwide pandemics in under 20 years and the recent one probably the biggest global disaster since the Second World War.
It's easy to tell you have zero experience in business. Supply chains are already being rerouted and a number of my main vendors are sourcing outside China. A lot of them have said this was the last straw. The trade war will escalate after the 2020 election and China will suffer a depression. So much for your Islam theory.
I have to agree with china making shit products, but at one point you have to blame the people that bought chinese products, and the people that brought the virus to the US. Some of the tourist are to blame, why it spread to the US, but again, if this is all BASED on some chinese guy really eating a dirty bat. WE still don't know the story, just conspiracies, hell half the people here belive 9/11 is an 'insider job", "world is flat". So i dont know the origin of the virus, BUT one thing i do know is... Chinese makes SHIT products.
6th century AD: bubonic plague. Origin: Tianshan mountains, china. 50 million dead worldwide
year 1347: bubonic plague. Origin: Hubei / Wuhan, china. 200 million people dead worldwide
year 1855: bubonic plague. Origin: Yunnan province, china. 12 million dead worldwide
year:1968: Hong Kong flu. Origin: Hong Kong / china. 1 million dead worldwide
year:2002: SARS. Origin: Guangdong province, china. 774 dead worldwide
year:2019: COVID-19 virus. Origin: Hubei / Wuhan, china. > 100,000 dead worldwide
Notice a pattern?
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6th century AD: bubonic plague. Origin: Tianshan mountains, china. 50 million dead worldwide
year 1347: bubonic plague. Origin: Hubei / Wuhan, china. 200 million people dead worldwide
year 1855: bubonic plague. Origin: Yunnan province, china. 12 million dead worldwide
year:1968: Hong Kong flu. Origin: Hong Kong / china. 1 million dead worldwide
year:2002: SARS. Origin: Guangdong province, china. 774 dead worldwide
year:2019: COVID-19 virus. Origin: Hubei / Wuhan, china. > 100,000 dead worldwide
Notice a pattern?
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I'm not boycotting anything. Where else would I get electronics?
It's easy to tell you have zero experience in business. Supply chains are already being rerouted and a number of my main vendors are sourcing outside China. A lot of them have said this was the last straw. The trade war will escalate after the 2020 election and China will suffer a depression. So much for your Islam theory.
actually you have zero experience in business. Greed is what drives all business, you really think all businesses care about their customers lol, so they will buy Low and sell high, they will buy the cheapest and sell. give this a couple of months, business will go about the usual. Business is built upon greed. Just know that china makes shit products, thats commonsense, but business will always buy the cheapest.
It's easy to tell you have zero experience in business. Supply chains are already being rerouted and a number of my main vendors are sourcing outside China. A lot of them have said this was the last straw. The trade war will escalate after the 2020 election and China will suffer a depression. So much for your Islam theory.
What happens when someone decides to enter the same market using a cheap Chinese supplier as the business not using the Chinese supplier?
What happens when the Chinese supplied business sells it's goods at a cheaper price whilst still making more per unit sold? How long before the non Chinese supplied business starts to struggle?
I don't think the US will be doing business as usual with the Chinese.
Is that what you do? Just always buy what's cheaper?
I don't think the US will be doing business as usual with the Chinese.
it doesn't stop US from doing business with middle east, korea, russia, etc. In the end, its always always about money, this will be forgotten soon. Slavery, War, drugs, hell murder in general, for the most part is about $$
Then we buy from Germany and Japan. And the quality of American products are some of the best in the world. It depends on how much you want to pay. No matter what you buy: cars, air conditioners, dirt bikes, guns, the quality you get is determined on how much you want to pay. It is not accurate to say that Japan and Germany make better products across the board than Americans. Chinese makes crap across the board.
After what China did to us, what they continue to do to us today and in the past, people will be more willing than ever to make sacrifices to crush China. The government has to make an active campaign reminding people of this. Just like they do with smoking, drinking, drunk driving and vaping...
Japan, South Korea, Europe.
No, it won't be forgotten soon. Will this be just a distance memory to you next year? A country does this to us and to the world and you will just shrug it off and forget about it? Isn't it obvious that this time it's different? This is something that hit everybody at home in their personal lives. Are you really the kind of man that just let's this slide without reprecussions? Do you have any family that you are responsible for? Having to put food on the table and a roof over their heads? Having this threatened. Having them go without a formal education? You're just going to forget about this so you can buy cheap junk you don't need anyway? Really? Is that the kind of man you have become?
What exactly do Americans build that are of quality? Their cars were shit for decades and still a lot of them are still. A lot of them are outsourced to mexico, Canada and China also
Funny thing is Honda, Toyota, bmw, Mercedes, nissan, etc... have a lot more their cars built in the US by Americans
Try finding electronics these days that are made in japan or Europe that are cheap and affordable, South Korea has a lot of junk too. A lot of their washing machines, refrigerators are junk
People don’t want expensive shit, they want cheap stuff
Quality and America don’t go hand in hand in modern times
What exactly do Americans build that are of quality? Their cars were shit for decades and still a lot of them are still. A lot of them are outsourced to mexico, Canada and China also
Funny thing is Honda, Toyota, bmw, Mercedes, nissan, etc... have a lot more their cars built in the US by Americans
time will tell, but I hope you are right and i am wrong. I do hate knowing that it always always comes to money, BUT i do hope its different this time
You think our cars are shit. The Ford 150 is shit? The Mustang is shit? The Corvette is shit? Tesla is shit? The Hellcat is shit? Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Remington are shit? Apple is shit? Windows are shit? Our military hardware and planes are shit? Our food production, the largest in the world, that feeds more people in the world than any other country, is shit?
The fact that foreign manufacturers have their cars built here is proof that we don't make shit. There's a reason America leads the world and has the biggest economy.
STFU with your American bashing. Look around you. You wouldn't have nearly the quality of life you have if it was for American products. Why don't you do yourself a favor and don't buy a single item that comes from America? You can't do it.
I would never buy an American car.
Foreign cars are just built better.
You tell us what country sells only high-quality goods? What kind of cell phone do you have? What kind of computer? What kind of Washer and Dryer?
Not me. I've had both foreign and American and much prefer American.
As car companies they are shit, not individual car models and yes, SHIT, as in QUALITY and overall build, reliability, material used. How’s those 3 car companies doing btw? And Tesla has LOTS of quality issues and build quality is SHIT
I’m around cars 24/7 as it is what I do
I’m not the one hating on China made goods here
Your opinion that fortunately, the majority don't agree with. Otherwise there would be no American cars. I'm taking advice from a car salesman. Please avoid all American products. We will do fine without you.
German made Porsche’s, Mercedes, BMW, and Audi
Not me. I've had both foreign and American and much prefer American.
Your point? Are you one of those shallow thinkers that believe that just because someone says they like and prefer one thing over something else you conclude that it must mean they dislike and consider the other thing shit? If someone prefers a Cadillac does that mean they dislike and think Mercedes is shit?
Jeeze man, do you think anything through?
The majority agree that foreign car companies like Toyota is number 1 and German and European luxury is number 1 in the world
Meanwhile besides ford who was taking bail outs?
As far as Apple and all those you named, where are those products made? That was my whole point, I wasn’t saying American inventors or companies, I was stating specifically AMERICAN MADE QUALITY and where are these affordable products that are made in the USA that the common man is looking for instead of China made products
The whole debate was made in the USA products specifically
I feel the opposite. To each their own, I guess.
No matter what ranking a car company is the fact that they are still in business means that people are buying their products and not everybody is buying a Toyota. And not everybody are buying luxury cars. In fact, most aren't.
American products are made all over the world with American quality control that you don't have from Chinese made products. And a lot of foreign products are made here in America. I thought you would know this as a car salesman.
No guess. Fact.
Do you?
My whole debate was products MADE IN USA, that was it, then you went on and on about American companies hahaha
Sales state otherwise my chinese/black friend
Fact is, companies like Toyota and Honda are more reliable than American cars.
You're not my friend and think of your own questions to ask instead of parroting what I say.
And you claim that there are no quality products made exclusively in America. NO products.
If you had to choose between buying Foster Farms chicken or chicken made from China which would you choose? No matter what your answer you will be exposed as a liar. Checkmate. Which BTW, I won my first chess match today in 11 moves.
What we have learned here is that you prefer to "hate" on America instead of the Chinese. Just another ungrateful anti-American who would be living under Communism or Nazism if it wasn't for us.
Thanks for your noncontribution to this very trying time in this world. Bash America but not the country that has put us in this position. Ingrate.
Bail outs
Statistically Toyota sales are higher than American car manufacturers in America’s homeland, and Cadillac went through 2 GM’s and fired their recent one, company is in trouble in sales, these are facts. Dodge/Chrysler had to be bought out by Italians
I am not a sales person, my chinese black friend
What about it? That says nothing about quality. Sales can be higher but it's not 100%. Many people buy other cars other than Toyota. Why is that so difficult to understand? And if you are not a car salesman then what are you? Why didn't you just say what you do "to be around cars all the time"? You're an oil changer? Install batteries? Mechanic? Why the big secret?
Fact is, companies like Toyota and Honda are more reliable than American cars.
Does that mean if I come down to Hawaii I won’t have a place to stay or sushi to eat since we aren’t friends?
You can't afford a Hawaiian vacation.
My real job is In N Out burger, we have car shows all the time, is there a problem with my profession? An oil changer, or mechanic? What’s the problem?
What do you not get? That American car companies are struggling big time? Is that not true?
Right now it’s pretty cheap
Why the personal attacks and not a civil discussion, a man your age I would expect to be more courteous
In-N-Out burger is one of the things that I most miss about living on mainland. That along with Trader Joes. Props to you. Great burgers. Eating there is when I first appreciated fresh ingredients. I had no idea how much just having fresh lettuce on a burger makes such a difference.
And what does a business struggling have to do with my preferring their products? A local restaurant here that had the best plate lunch on the island and they went out of business last year. They still had the best plate lunch.
You'll have to undergo a 14-day quarantine in your hotel. Prices are down but travel way, way down. Mostly just returning islanders. Hawaii, and the governor, has made it quite clear that we don't want any visitors to the island.
And what personal attacks? You call me, sarcastically, a Chinese/Black and then cry because I ask if you are one of those shallow thinkers.
I stand corrected
As far as that, I thought you’d be proud of being chinese since you obviously have ancestors who are, just a guess
My grandparents, my parents, and I have zero to do with the Chinese culture. My primary ancestors come from the Philippines and England/Ireland. How about you? What is your race/ethnicity? And don't just say White. Be more specific, unless you are ashamed.
Interesting
Both parents, and I born and raised in Munich, Germany. Immigrated to the US to CA at a young age, didn’t speak any English just German as it was my first language
My grandparents, my parents, and I have zero to do with the Chinese culture. My primary ancestors come from the Philippines and England/Ireland. How about you? What is your race/ethnicity? And don't just say White. Be more specific, unless you are ashamed.
Hmm, thought you were from England for some reason. My brother is in Germany and just retired about six months ago but decided to stay there indefinitely. He and his wife, and their bulldog, really like it there. Lives in Schonaich.
Does that mean if I come down to Hawaii I won’t have a place to stay or sushi to eat since we aren’t friends?
It's easy to tell you have zero experience in business. Supply chains are already being rerouted and a number of my main vendors are sourcing outside China. A lot of them have said this was the last straw. The trade war will escalate after the 2020 election and China will suffer a depression. So much for your Islam theory.
It's getting physical with Chinese in Australian supermarkets :D
It's getting physical with Chinese in Australian supermarkets :D
pellius,
Out of curiosity, in the past, how come you have been annoyed with my "racism"? I only put that in quotes because I HATE that word, because it is nonspecific, and means NOTHING. I try to use specific words and terminology when talking about things.
You could argue that I have anti-Black views, anti-Indigenous views, anti-Muslim views, and anti-Jewish views.
For the most part, I have no problem explaining my views on the first three. The anti-Jewish views are slightly more complicated, as the negative Jewish behaviour that I speak of is not relating to their day-to-day behaviour, such as rates of violent crime.
It is more to do with the fact that Jews have been historically heavily involved with things like communism, and then when that causes a backlash [Hitler - who, historically, is BY FAR not the only person who has taken issue with Jewish geopolitical crime], Jews use their extensive clout in media and investment banking to make it out to be like Jews do nothing wrong, and White people [and Muslims] hate them for NO REASON at all.
And I'm sorry, but that's absolute BS. It massively oversimplifies the very complex White/Jewish and Muslim/Jewish history, and purports Gentiles to literally have some strange brain disorder where we hate on Jews for no reason at all.
And I resent that. So if you're wondering why I take issue with Jews, to the degree that you think I do [and you're not completely wrong about that, but none of my views were arrived at simplistically or slowly], that is a portion of the reason.
My views regarding Blacks, Indigenous people, and Muslims relate more to their rates of violent crime. For example, 90% of interracial crimes in the USA each year [about 900,000 out of one MILLION interracial crimes in the USA each year] are committed against White people. White people are BY FAR the biggest victims of interracial violence, in both percentage terms AND absolute numbers. So as a White man, I resent constantly hearing about how White people [particularly White straight men] somehow "oppress" people of colour, who literally RISK THEIR LIVES to flee their own inferior countries to live around Caucasians?
Why WOULDN'T I resent that, pellius?
White people literally clothe, feed, and hitherto CODDLE non-Whites, while simultaneously being accused of somehow "oppressing" them. ::)
NEWSFLASH: NO ONE FORCES THESE PEOPLE TO LIVE AROUND WHITE PEOPLE.
They live around White people because THEY TOO prefer it. So for THEM to accuse ME of being a "White Supremacist" is rather rich - they want to escape non-White society and live far away from it just as much as I do!
I hope that clears some of my views up.
Having said that...when have I ever expressed any sort of negative views towards Asiatic people?
Asians are probably literally the only race I DON'T take issue with, LOL.
I suppose the Chinese economic colonialism of other parts of the world - even here in Canada's west coast - concerns me somewhat...but, as a White man, I don't think I'm in any position to complain about advancing one's race thanks to colonialism, LOL. Seriously. :)
Other things - like Chinese pollution - may concern me somewhat, but Chinese production exists to the extent it does in no small part because White people [including and ESPECIALLY hypocritical White liberals/leftists who believe in things like fair trade coffee, and paying a "living wage"] heavily demand cheap Chinese electronics and other consumer goods - I recently read that something like 90% of Western medicine is made in China! If true - wow. :o
But when did I ever say anything negative about Asians/Asiatic people, pellius? :)
Lol, I'm serious when I say that Asians may be the only race I have NOT bashed. And I include White people in that list! I'd say I have said far more negative things about White liberals/leftists and White people in general than I have EVER said about your race, haha.
I'm not a jealous person, but I would honestly say that I am a bit jealous of the extent to which Asians are collective compared to Caucasians/Europeans, and they are far more altruistic towards their in-group that Caucasians are. You won't much hear me ever criticizing Asians.
So out of curiosity, why did you take issue with my "racist" views?
PS - God, the Japanese must be laughing at the West right now. ;D
Japanese car companies assemble cars in America to avoid tariffs often imposed on foreign cars made outside the U.S.
It's got nothing to do with the quality of American workers.
American car companies use large amount of foreign made parts.
The new Ford F-150 truck plant in Michigan is just an assembly line. Parts for the F-150 are mainly foreign made.
I worked at a GM plant in the late 70s and half the workers on the line were stoned. Crates of poorly made American parts were piled to the ceiling waiting for re-work to make them usable.
The American car industry was protected from foreign competition by high tariffs on foreign cars. Once these tariffs were lowered in the 70s the Japanese kicked our azzes. The American car companies had to compete on a level playing field. They had to improve the product which was comparatively poorly made junk to survive.
Much of the problems in the American car industry were a result of the adversarial relationship between management and the union workforce. They hated one another.
Try motivating a worker to perform better when he hates your guts, usually for good reason.
You've probably heard stories of management declining to spend and extra 50 cents per car to prevent a serious safety issue in a car model. They would also decline to take steps to correct quality issues.
Put that together with stoned workers and you make crap.
Whatabout social distancing ???
What exactly do Americans build that are of quality?
Every single dollar ever saved by outsourcing to China has now been given back. Boy, that worked well.
Fucking chinese will always be the most disgusting creatures on this earth. I went to Aldi's the other day. 3 avocados for $1. This chinese man with bare hands litteraly grabbing and touching and squeezing every one. I fucking lost it. Just yelled at him to stop being such a fucking pig and touching everything. He looked at me like he didn't understand a thing I said. They are just fucking gross inconsiderate people. That whole country needs to be fucking wiped out.
Trouble is they got the Ruskis behind them too. Can't take them on
Chinese have started eating (alive or dead...) bats again in their filthy sadistic "wet markets":
www.thesun.co.uk/news/11399805/wuhan-wet-markets-coronavirus-reopen-who-green-light/
1,400 years of speading fatal diseases around the world did not stop disgusting chinese people to continue with their devastating habits
These people are beyond stupid
Advice: do NOT do business with chinese, do not go to chinese restaurants, don't go to china for a holiday, and stop buying products made in the world's number 1 pandemic spreading country!
Chinese restaurants are all American if in the US, where do think the money goes? Where do you think the food comes from?
So i can't really stop buying american brands because most countries are involved in everything including china, BUT I TRY TO PRIORITIZE buying to support America first..
What I have noticed in ( for instance) comments under YouTube videos: as expected chinese governments trolls are commenting everywhere. (as in: spreading lies / disinformation / blaming other for the chinese virus etc)
I don't think they have fake accounts here on GetBig, but they are active on many online forums / video channels etc
Typical behaviour for a dictatorship that is killing thousands of people per day, ruining economies and has lots to hide.....
www.edition.cnn.com/2019/04/18/tech/china-uyghurs-internet-trolls-facebook-intl/index.html
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SFdr4gWsGog/maxresdefault.jpg)
Fucking chinese will always be the most disgusting creatures on this earth. I went to Aldi's the other day. 3 avocados for $1. This chinese man with bare hands litteraly grabbing and touching and squeezing every one. I fucking lost it. Just yelled at him to stop being such a fucking pig and touching everything. He looked at me like he didn't understand a thing I said. They are just fucking gross inconsiderate people. That whole country needs to be fucking wiped out.about 10 years ago I was delivering a Tanker load of fuel too a bulk food distribution site in Western Sydney, the whole place was literally crawling with them with there hair nets and white gloves on after unloading the fuel I asked someone where the toilet was,
In contrast to what some people say, the USA makes some of the world's best products. Purely for price some stuff is bought in china, not for quality reasons.
But chinese products have a large hidden cost: chinese factories disregard human rights, animal rights, dump toxic waste everywhere. Massive air and water pollution. Ultimately, chinese products are not cheap, mankind has to pay for the hidden pricetags
For people who do not believe America makes top quality products, here some examples:
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(https://media.autoweek.nl/m/sm2ybsubdtg3_800.jpg)
(https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/main_images/519f95700c4e0af6e934502db59ce97a.jpg)
(https://www.absjets.com/obrazky/web/346_st.jpg)
Volvo Trucks USA:
(https://www.volvotrucks.us/-/media/vtna/images/refresh/trucks/vnl/vnl-intro.jpg?h=413&w=1200&hash=982537619963145FCC2B5BC26C6C8DD0)
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Many people get sick after eating in chinese restaurants. They use E621 (ve-tsin). Many chinese who work there travel to and from china = contagion risk. And they like to kill / eat endangered exotic animals species. Yes also in chinese restaurants located in western countries.
Governments should do a crackdown on such places imo.
In contrast to what some people say, the USA makes some of the world's best products. Purely for price some stuff is bought in china, not for quality reasons.
But chinese products have a large hidden cost: chinese factories disregard human rights, animal rights, dump toxic waste everywhere. Massive air and water pollution. Ultimately, chinese products are not cheap, mankind has to pay for the hidden pricetags
For people who do not believe America makes top quality products, here some examples:
(https://i.insider.com/5cb58aceaefeef2a50012376?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
(https://media.autoweek.nl/m/sm2ybsubdtg3_800.jpg)
(https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/main_images/519f95700c4e0af6e934502db59ce97a.jpg)
(https://www.absjets.com/obrazky/web/346_st.jpg)
Volvo Trucks USA:
(https://www.volvotrucks.us/-/media/vtna/images/refresh/trucks/vnl/vnl-intro.jpg?h=413&w=1200&hash=982537619963145FCC2B5BC26C6C8DD0)
I'm addicted to cheap Chinese electronics!! I LOVE the cheap quality for a good price! I bought an amazing cellphone at Wal-Mart for only $99 this month. Guess what? Made in China!! Lol!!
I just can't fathom a cellphone of this quality being sold for $99 that was made anywhere else. :)
That being said, I know 100% what my addiction to cheap Chinese-produced goods is costing the environment! I get it.
Boycott Chinese products! ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been all over Los Angeles, Monterey Park, San Gabriel, down town China town LA, nonsense, you can get sick literally anywhere eating Mexican food, Cuban, Jamaican, fast food, etc...
Do some of y’all have experience Eating different foods (like X factor ;D) or you just so happen to read and believe what you favor?
Where are you going to get your gear from? :o
They stand no chance against NATO and the rest of the Western allies, including Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.
hey, its a known fact, that taco bell uses dog meat!!!! look it up!
hey, its a known fact, that taco bell uses dog meat!!!! look it up!
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You believe the weekly world news. Congratulations.
hey, its a known fact, that taco bell uses dog meat!!!! look it up!
hey, its a known fact, that taco bell uses dog meat!!!! look it up!
Why don't you just post the evidence instead of telling us to look it up? You are making the assertion so the onus is on you to prove it. You claim it's a known fact. That can't be true. If it was it would be big news. I truly doubt that the majority of people think Taco Bell uses dog meat. If they did there would be a class action lawsuit as they advertise they use beef.
I know they used sand and sawdust at one point not sure about now. Still, at 2AM after the bar whaddaya gonna do?
Oh, oh Chinese spat on, abused during random racial attacks in Sydney ;)
It's starting ....................... 8)
If nothing else maybe they will learn to act like human beings in public
So far china has murdered 73,095 Americans.
I hope people will realise that voting for Joe Biden will only make this worse: Joe will bend over a much as he can to please the chinese communist dictator
Just for comparison purposes:
The Korean war killed 36,516 Americans
The Vietnam war killed 58,209 Americans
Trump should order all American companies to stop investing in china asap.
Fact: china uses (or abuses) the north-korean terror state to harass Western countries.
Without chinese support north-korea would have collapsed a long time ago, and would not have nuclear weapons.
Thanks china....
After months of norovirus outbreaks on cruise ships, a smoothie is finally implicated
CDC investigators finally traced the norovirus — not coronavirus — illnesses last year back to a smoothie made with frozen raspberries.
It was a whodunit on the high seas: For several months in the summer of 2019, a handful passengers on 10 European cruises came down with acute stomach bugs.
The passengers were on different ships that departed from July to September. All of the patients, however, were on ships from the same cruise line and had the same symptoms: a rapid onset of vomiting and diarrhea that lasted about 24 hours.
Sick passengers were asked to fill out food questionnaires, and on the second ship, 80 percent said they had consumed a smoothie made from frozen fruits and berries. Further testing of the frozen fruit found that the raspberries, along with the tropical fruit cocktail and the berry mix, tested positive for norovirus.
The same berries were found on both ships, the CDC report concluded. In fact, further investigation revealed that the cruise line had purchased nearly 22,000 pounds of frozen raspberries from a single supplier in China beginning in June 2019. The findings led the World Health Organization to issue a recall for the frozen raspberries in November 2019.
After the frozen raspberries were removed from the ships, no further outbreaks were reported.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-months-norovirus-outbreaks-cruise-ships-smoothie-finally-implicated-n1190031?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR25ovujGo3JJxkpJeM-iXvgqzPzN4odXP7syoYAKQfFJBA_dugWekQ5zls
Trouble is they got the Ruskis behind them too. Can't take them on
Yes, the average Joe can just walk into the local wal mart and buy a rocket
We are talking about everyday products by the masses, not military grade, or items the average person has no use to attain
As for Lincoln, that brand from ford is just about dead. 95 percent people with money pick Lexus, and the German luxury brands over that
I think it must be possible to make cheap items much closer by, in Mexico for example. Short supply lines, low wages, lots of people / workers.
So for all Wallmart stuff etc, I think it's better to import such products from Mexico rather than from china.
American CEOs and CFOs just have to decide to build factories in the USA and Mexico, instead of in china.
Lincolns new range of SUVs get lots of praise, look them up on YT, the brand is improving in a huge way.
In this recent survey they are ahead of the German brands:
www.eu.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/11/14/consumer-reports-auto-reliability-study-2020-vehicles/2578463001/
Lexus might be on the way back / stalled, despite their reliability:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmKiDTSJesM
Infiniti is dead, even completely stopped in Europe, with Nissan next it seems
There’s always India, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc...
Lincoln’s are pretty nice, I agree, but at the end of the day, it’s sales and profits, and unfortunately, Lincoln, Cadillac, American luxury brands have been struggling
Lexus, great brand and high quality cars but their line ups are so old, and many models need refresh or new designs, engines are old, and underpowered compared to their luxury counterpart