Fair points (about me being smart and more confirmation that Biden is the winner). However, once Biden is confirmed the winner by the unofficial vote tallies of the states, Trump should concede. These mythical “pathways” to victory that will never materialize, and lawsuits that will never go anywhere are a waste of the nation’s collective energy.The only thing shameful is the cheating done by the democrats. He should tie this up in the courts for months. I would not concede and would do everything possible to get the ballots audited not recounted. Verify the people who voted exist, and live at the address listed.
The fact that Trump is soliciting donations to fund these ridiculous lawsuits is pretty shameful. He’s essentially robbing people right now and giving credence to those of his detractors who accused him of being a crook. Some old lady shouldn’t be asked for $50 to pay lawyers to waste the public’s time and money.
The only thing shameful is the cheating done by the democrats. He should tie this up in the courts for months. I would not concede and would do everything possible to get the ballots audited not recounted. Verify the people who voted exist, and live at the address listed.
Let him use his own money then.
And then who reimburses him if hes right? Which of his accusers used thier own money on the impeachment?Throw Nevada in as well.
Lets do the right thing for the country.
Investigate one state Michigan/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania, hopefully there is ZERO fraud found and then we move forward as a country.
To act like money should be an issue when its never considered in any other matter is ridiculous.
Throw Nevada in as well.
And then who reimburses him if hes right? Which of his accusers used thier own money on the impeachment?
Lets do the right thing for the country.
Investigate one state Michigan/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania, hopefully there is ZERO fraud found and then we move forward as a country.
To act like money should be an issue when its never considered in any other matter is ridiculous.
If he were to somehow miraculously prevail he could recoup the money in 15 minutes with a few phone calls. He doesn’t need to be hitting up the people he claims to care about for $25. That’s not right.What could he have done? He can't do anything about the voting precincts. He tried to get mail in voting stopped and couldn't.
You can either look at the world for how you want it to be or how it really is. Trump is a big boy. He got beat by some “bad hombres.” He should’ve seen this coming and been prepared for it. Maybe he should’ve skipped a rally in FL and spent time making sure his election integrity team was the finest in history. But he didn’t and it’s done.
Let him use his own money then.
What could he have done? He can't do anything about the voting precincts. He tried to get mail in voting stopped and couldn't.
Fair points (about me being smart and more confirmation that Biden is the winner). However, once Biden is confirmed the winner by the unofficial vote tallies of the states, Trump should concede. These mythical “pathways” to victory that will never materialize, and lawsuits that will never go anywhere are a waste of the nation’s collective energy.
The fact that Trump is soliciting donations to fund these ridiculous lawsuits is pretty shameful. He’s essentially robbing people right now and giving credence to those of his detractors who accused him of being a crook. Some old lady shouldn’t be asked for $50 to pay lawyers to waste the public’s time and money.
If he were to somehow miraculously prevail he could recoup the money in 15 minutes with a few phone calls. He doesn’t need to be hitting up the people he claims to care about for $25. That’s not right.
You can either look at the world for how you want it to be or how it really is. Trump is a big boy. He got beat by some “bad hombres.” He should’ve seen this coming and been prepared for it. Maybe he should’ve skipped a rally in FL and spent time making sure his election integrity team was the finest in history. But he didn’t and it’s done.
So on one hand he shouldn’t solicit money but on the other he should have been using campaign money to pay off the inner city leaders.....
Whatever you say.
That was then, this is now. IT’S DONE. Everyone who matters wants it over. I also think small-donors to political campaigns are fools and should be protected from themselves.
It’s bad for business to let it drag on. Even Trump himself will start to get pressure from the Mnuchin-types and the Republicans in Congress to end it. There’s a Republican senate so no one is worried about things getting too radical.
You all predicted a Trump win. It didn’t happen. Now move on. Worry about winning the House in ‘22. Who is the next Newt Gingrich?
Move on ? so you honestly believe the alleged voter fraud should not be investigated ?? would you say the same if Pedo Joe was asking for it to be investigated ??
Yes, but in fairness to Biden he’s a politician and that’s what politicians do. Trump is supposed to be a non-politician and above all this bullshit.
Some historical perspective. Gore didn’t just move on:
How the 2000 Election Came Down to a Supreme Court Decision | HISTORY
https://www.history.com/news/2000-election-bush-gore-votes-supreme-court
So we can pit this ridiculous shitshow behind us and focus on the important things like the Olympia?
He lost. Time for him to exit gracefully and start bringing the country together. Republicans will have another chance at the presidency in four years. In the meantime they can focus on the ‘22 midterms.
That was then, this is now. IT’S DONE. Everyone who matters wants it over. I also think small-donors to political campaigns are fools and should be protected from themselves.
It’s bad for business to let it drag on. Even Trump himself will start to get pressure from the Mnuchin-types and the Republicans in Congress to end it. There’s a Republican senate so no one is worried about things getting too radical.
You all predicted a Trump win. It didn’t happen. Now move on. Worry about winning the House in ‘22. Who is the next Newt Gingrich?
Why should he concede when he's going to prob win
Never. The lying man child is going to rage tweet this for the rest of his life. Just like his brainless supporters are going to do too.
;D. ;D
Its apparent Trump is about to lose..
He is just prolonging the agonny and owning
He is about to receive.. he needs to move on..
He should strike a deal with Biden..
A presidential pardon for all the legal shit he is currently being sued and for future federal investigation...
;D. ;D
The only thing shameful is the cheating done by the democrats. He should tie this up in the courts for months. I would not concede and would do everything possible to get the ballots audited not recounted. Verify the people who voted exist, and live at the address listed.
What part is apparent? What you hear in the media?
On the fat chance Trump loses, he ain’t going away. He’ll run the Republican Party and haunt the left until the day he dies. This fucker is on a mission
Coach I know you are the biggest Trump fan boy..
But come on .. coach .. it's pretty much over...
Media or no media... Trump is panic mode..
He knows he is pretty much out.. he needs to win the remaining 5 states which is pretty much impossible at this point.. Biden just needs one state and it looks he will probably taken nevada which will bring him to 270..
Currently Biden leads by 12k votes, with 76% reporting. That 24% = 378,000 more votes to be tallied.
Anything can happen in Nevada.
Watching the Trump presser now you can see he’s done, The bravado is gone. It actually happened faster than I expected. He clearly never entertained the thought of losing.
Why should he concede when he's going to prob win
Once he loses he'll be spending his time dealing with all the ongoing investigations into his criminal organization
I'm wondering if he will flee the country like he threatened to do
I'm sure Putin will pay him for all knowledge of our military (though Trump is so fucking stupid that it won't be worth much)
I have no doubt Trump would sell our our national defense to enrich himself
Once he loses he'll be spending his time dealing with all the ongoing investigations into his criminal organization
I'm wondering if he will flee the country like he threatened to do
I'm sure Putin will pay him for all knowledge of our military (though Trump is so fucking stupid that it won't be worth much)
I have no doubt Trump would sell our our national defense to enrich himself
Once he loses he'll be spending his time dealing with all the ongoing investigations into his criminal organization
I'm wondering if he will flee the country like he threatened to do
I'm sure Putin will pay him for all knowledge of our military (though Trump is so fucking stupid that it won't be worth much)
I have no doubt Trump would sell our our national defense to enrich himself
Trump said months ago all he asked for was a fair election. It is not obvious that the american people voted biden into office (there cant be that many uneducated worthless fucks in this country) thus he can and should fight for what is legitimately his. Op you are crazy if you want us to believe you wouldnt do the same.
LOL
I'm enjoying the desperation and delusion of Trump supporters
There is no need for him to concede yet but when they finally call Nevada and Arizona for him he done.
Biden might still squeeze out a win in Pennsylvania and Georgia as well
LOL - just go ahead and transition to the little bitch hiding in your weak man body. You always whine like a girl - time to be one, haha.
So we can pit this ridiculous shitshow behind us and focus on the important things like the Olympia?
He lost. Time for him to exit gracefully and start bringing the country together. Republicans will have another chance at the presidency in four years. In the meantime they can focus on the ‘22 midterms.
There were no Russian hackers last time and there is no election fraud this time - get over it.
There were no Russian hackers last time and there is no election fraud this time - get over it.
he will never give up
the reason you have hope is only because of him AND OTHERS LIKE HIM
So we can pit this ridiculous shitshow behind us and focus on the important things like the Olympia?
He lost. Time for him to exit gracefully and start bringing the country together. Republicans will have another chance at the presidency in four years. In the meantime they can focus on the ‘22 midterms.
Concede while there is ongoing litigation In all of the battleground states he was leading the night of the election when they all stopped the count practically at the same time? You go with that...lol
Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., said in a statement Thursday that once the state's final election count is "reached and certified, all parties involved must accept the outcome of the election regardless of whether they won or lost."
“All votes that comply with Pennsylvania law must be counted, regardless of how long the process takes," Toomey said in his statement.
The harshest pushback came from retiring Texas Rep. Will Hurd.
"A sitting president undermining our political process & questioning the legality of the voices of countless Americans without evidence is not only dangerous & wrong, it undermines the very foundation this nation was built upon," he said in a tweet. "Every American should have his or her vote counted."
Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., who has also times has been a sharp Trump critic, also offered a strong rebuke.
"We want every vote counted, yes every legal vote (of course). But, if you have legit concerns about fraud present EVIDENCE and take it to court. STOP Spreading debunked misinformation," he wrote. "This is getting insane."
Gov. Larry Hogan, R-Md., was one of the few to mention who he was talking about. "There is no defense for the President’s comments tonight undermining our Democratic process. America is counting the votes, and we must respect the results as we always have before. No election or person is more important than our Democracy," he tweeted.
Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah, a vocal Trump critic and the Republican presidential nominee in 2012, also called for patience in a statement he tweeted from his personal Twitter account.
"Counting every vote is at the heart of democracy. That process is often long and, for those running, frustrating. The votes will be counted," Romney wrote, and if there are any "irregularities alleged, they will be investigated and ultimately resolved in court. Have faith in democracy, in our Constitution, and in the American people."
Former Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., called Trump's remarks "simply reprehensible."
Rep. Paul Mitchell, R-Mass., offered tough talk and some sympathy in a pair of tweets.
"Every legal vote should and will be counted - as they always are. Where there are issues there are ways to address them. If anyone has proof of wrongdoing, it should be presented and resolved. Anything less harms the integrity of our elections and is dangerous for our democracy
"I have experienced both losses and victories in elections. Losses hurt deeply - I know that personally. But our nation demands that its political leaders accept both wins and losses with grace and maturity. Let the voters decide," he wrote
;D. ;D
Looks like the GOP.. Is jumping off the Trump train..
When Donald came out today for his press conference..
He looked tired, beaten , & delusional..
;D. ;D
A solid majority of them never were on it.
Trump did and said things they only dream of. They were making a living being controlled opposition while the country is slowly sold off to the highest bidder. Trump is a freak occurrence in what is otherwise a "two sides of the same coin" big govt situation.
Republicans aren't putting up with his bullshit about voter fraud either.
Apparently the super duper, ultra deadly, end of the world coronavirus pandemic the MSM has been screaming about the past month must have gone away, because CNN and MSNBC have completely stopped mentioning it.
Patently false.
Blatant bullshit.
I assumed you were a Muslim, with a half Jewish father based on your name "Abraham". The Jewish "Cohen's" are technically the son of Abraham, so I assumed your father's mother was a was a Cohen, making your father half Jewish and half Muslim, but your father gave you the name "Abraham" because his mother was a Cohen, technically making you one of the descendants of Abraham.
And I suspected your mother was fully genetically from the Middle East, based on your hatred of White men.
When I found out you were a White man, I was admittedly taken aback.
That's why your hatred of White men surprises me. I consistently scratch my head about White men - bodybuilding alpha White men such as yourself, no less - who hate White men.
Regarding your point about COVID - has the MSM been mentioning COVID during the election? They can be forgiven for failing to mention it during this time, since the election obviously overshadows that.
But as time goes on, I am very curious if COVID will still be a thing or not. I could see that going either way - maybe COVID will be forgotten now that the globalists have gotten their choice of president. Or maybe, they will want to continue with the economic destruction that the COVID political measures implemented have caused, which has made global billionaires increase their wealth by a staggering $639 BILLION during the pandemic, up until late August of this year. That figure is probably higher now, and currently puts the total wealth of all global billionaires at exceeding $10 TRILLION.
So...I'd be curious how that plays out. Time will tell.
Abraham - regarding COVID being covered these past few days [during the election period], you claimed it is patently false that the big media outlets stopped mentioning it.
Is that true?
You can either look at the world for how you want it to be or how it really is..
President-Elect Biden has Pennsylvania now too. It’s time.
They will release the Pedo stuff if they have too
Then you dems will be ashamed you defended them
You know, I didn’t think of this. Maybe they’ve been holding on to the real bad stuff because they knew the shit with mail in would happen.
Great point💪
Or maybe they were holding it in because it's bullshit. If it were valid, I am sure they would have been ringing the cow bell over it weeks ago.
Patently false.
Blatant bullshit.
Possible but the FBI has a copy and God knows what else. Sleepy is just a front man who will do what he’s told.
Looks like the Senate is now in play as GA goes blue too. This is getting ugly now. I’d prefer the GOP hold the Senate.
They will release the Pedo stuff if they have too
Then you dems will be ashamed you defended them
It's already getting to you. What a long four years you got to look forward to. Go ahead and lower your truck flag to half mast.
we will never be the sore losers you were for the last 4 years, you people are shameless and have no ounce of dignity so if you can survive 4 years so can we :)
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Stop. Seriously, just stop. You normally make logical posts when they are free of any political biased viewpoints for the GOP. You make somewhat logical ones when they are clearly party posts as well. But this is out there. I mean, not to the level of birthism or the corona assassination attempt... but it is out there.
Does that include being the dumbass lap dog you were for the past four years. Believing his endless lies and daily bullshit that one had to suspend a connection with reality in order to even listen to it? How much dignity did it take to stand by and defend a cowardly bully who hid behind Twitter and his lying press secretaries?
The only thing dumber than Trump is his supporters.
we will never be the sore losers you were for the last 4 years, you people are shameless and have no ounce of dignity so if you can survive 4 years so can we :)
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you sound emotional here, did you just vote for biden because he isn't trump?
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Does that include being the dumbass lap dog you were for the past four years. Believing his endless lies and daily bullshit that one had to suspend a connection with reality in order to even listen to it? How much dignity did it take to stand by and defend a cowardly bully who hid behind Twitter and his lying press secretaries?
The only thing dumber than Trump is his supporters.
Yeah. Just like a lot of Republicans did as well. Just in case the next four years get to you : 800-273-8255
is that a suicide hotline? why give that number to me? it's the liberals that are more likely to be mentally ill, which is probably why you have the number to begin with
https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits/
https://thenewamerican.com/sickness-to-socialism-leftists-are-more-likely-to-have-mental-problems-survey-shows/
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Trump : exhibits all those traits to the max
Trump Supporters : Baaaaa!
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/us-states-ranked-by-suicide-rate-121119.html
just look at all your antifa friends mug shots, not the picture of mental health
did you dye your hair blue in support of biden?
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You mad bro? You sound mad. You sound like you are "going through some things". One quick call could make a big difference. Someone to help you through this time.
Does that include being the dumbass lap dog you were for the past four years. Believing his endless lies and daily bullshit that one had to suspend a connection with reality in order to even listen to it? How much dignity did it take to stand by and defend a cowardly bully who hid behind Twitter and his lying press secretaries?
The only thing dumber than Trump is his supporters.
don't worry no innocent buildings will be harmed by me or my type, and i'm perfectly content with my natural brown hair ;)
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Good to hear. But I really didn't expect anything different. Your type was the same ones talking about rising up if Trump got impeached and well... look how that turned out.
Trumpster is one of the strongest and most stoic man I’ve ever known to exist.
And he loves the USA and civilized society.
Good point ZERO uprisings. We let the legal system play it out.
What were the doing in Seattle again?
so true
You remind me of people back in 2012 trying to tell me I was melting down because Romney lost. I didn’t, and Obama, a leftist, is much worse than Biden who is just a political hack with no real beliefs other than to do what is expedient at the time.
Ironically, this will work out better in the short term for me than you as I live in a deep blue state. Hell, my congresswoman, Maloney, might end up as the Speaker.
That said, I’m not convinced Trump will lose. However, if he exhausts all legal options and has to concede, I’ll accept it, move on with life and will not spend my days babbling to myself like liberals have for the past four years.
Didn't do shit because they are all cucks.::)
Good to hear. But I really didn't expect anything different. Your type was the same ones talking about rising up if Trump got impeached and well... look how that turned out.
Didn't do shit because they are all cucks.
::)
Biden won.
Lets hope he can unite America.
LOL.
The worst possible outcome was a close election with suspect happenings.
That's what we got.
There will be a perception of calm, because the media won't attack Biden 24/7 and obsess over everthing.
But it won't be united at all.
They called Trump the great divider. With Biden we can have peace like we did with Obama, Bush and Clinton.
do you realize how silly you sound saying this when you voted for a woman to lead this country ???
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we all expected election fraud, why would we expect anything different when dems have been trying to slander and sabotage him since 2016? were you too scared to vote in person?
did you vote hilary? what kind of a man votes for a woman as president? you think women are leaders? especially one like kamala?
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So much election fraud. But not a single link to concrete evidence. Why is that? With so much rampant fraud going on... it should be easy to find a link. You know... like this....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-republicans-caught-apparently-encouraging-141226986.html
Try it. It's fun.
As far as women leading... most would have done better than whining little coward Trump. It's easy to be tough behind a Twitter account. In person? Not so much.
They called Trump the great divider. With Biden we can have peace like we did with Obama, Bush and Clinton.
all while being duped ::)
You guys are funny.
This country used to be peace filled with racial harmony. Whites, blacks, browns and Asian's lived, worked and interacted amongst one another with zero issues.
Now the media says under Trump its the worst time to be a black person in America......
Really ?? wonder why his black/latino votes went up then ?
Lazy Libatards like you luv fake news, and never check facts out, back to your couch lazy ass.
Because it just happened. Check back in two weeks. I don’t care what side of the aisle you’re on, if you don’t think inner city Democratic machines are above shady shit, you’re beyond help.
And I’m not saying Republicans are pure but we all saw which way the shadiness went.
You sir are an idiot. Learn to read.
There were hundreds of years where it was much worse to be black in America than the last 4 years crybaby.
Two weeks? But the lapppttooppppppp!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmOz8AGXcAM6V5G?format=jpg&name=medium)2016 was 4 years ago and dems are now dancing in the streets .
2016 was 4 years ago and dems are now dancing in the streets .
Try to keep up.
So, now liberals are proven to be bad losers and winners. Emotional infantilism will do that to you.
So, now liberals are proven to be bad losers and winners. Emotional infantilism will do that to you.
No, you owned yourselves with your tantrums, coloring books and therapy dogs
You guys are obviously not risk takers. That’s why you’re celebrating prematurely. People who have been in these situations before know that shit can go wrong. If you don’t believe me, ask yourself this question: Can somebody who bet Biden cash their bet in Vegas NOW?
yes the slavery ran by the libatards, piss of back to your fake news imbecile.
What situation is that? You sound like a moron at this point. How much would you like to wager that Trump isn’t going to be president next year?
It’s a simple question.
Can you currently cash your cash your ticket if you have a bet on Biden?
You know you can’t and that’s why you’re resorting to infantile name-calling. It doesn’t matter that Biden might win. He just hasn’t done so yet.
Not yet.
This is 2020 ,Biden won and Trump lost, so suck it up buttercup ;)
Alot of vote counters going to prison
like Hillary did? Like Hunter did?..LOL
laws are for little people
So the US ends up with a voting system like an African banana republic.The democrats claim that is racism. ID is racist!!! The real reason of course is that they can't cheat so they won't allow it.
In most countries you have to vote in person, with your ID, which is scanned.
You guys are funny.
This country used to be peace filled with racial harmony. Whites, blacks, browns and Asian's lived, worked and interacted amongst one another with zero issues.
Now the media says under Trump its the worst time to be a black person in America......
So the US ends up with a voting system like an African banana republic.
In most countries you have to vote in person, with your ID, which is scanned.
bro... thats a meme of what trump supporters are doing now.. thus the MAGA hat
Covid was used as a pretext to usher in large scale Mail In voting. We have the biggest tech companies in the world but in 2020 snail mail was still the choice.
When you move to America you can talk to me about being an American. Until then don’t worry about what’s happening over the pond. P!ss off, lol you dope.
Again learn to read.
Wait until you get lock downs mandatory while the borders will be open for anyone wanting to cross it illegally. Demtard logic
haa haa yes, these libatards have no idea how worse off they are going to be.
Huh? Black-on-Black crime, interracial crime, and Blacks both shooting police 18.5 times as much as they get shot by police was exactly the same under Trump as it was under Obama.
Do you realize they actually keep statistics of this stuff?
Oh wait, shit. You're a Democrat. Digging up primary sources and forming views on issues based on fact isn't your thing. I get that.
And did you seriously mention peace under George Bush Jr.? The same man who waged an illegal war in Iraq which resulted in the deaths of 600,000 people, and displaced 37 million more from the region?
you sound like a Nazi, because you are a libatard, one of your tools, sad.
Are you better off now than you were four years ago?Yes. Especially when we figured out the plannedemic was real right around March and knew it wouldn’t end after November
Do you realize how silly you sound saying this because you are scared of a woman leading this country?
So much election fraud. But not a single link to concrete evidence. Why is that? With so much rampant fraud going on... it should be easy to find a link. You know... like this....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-republicans-caught-apparently-encouraging-141226986.html
Try it. It's fun.
As far as women leading... most would have done better than whining little coward Trump. It's easy to be tough behind a Twitter account. In person? Not so much.
Netanyahu congratulated Biden on the win, which means it's settled and done.
And the news are reporting Kushner is telling Trump to concede.
The Jews decide.
Lol, I just saw that Trump apparently unfollowedNetanyahu has to kiss up to the new guy giving him money and protection.
Netanyahu on Twitter due to this disloyalty. :D
After everything he did for the Jews, this is the thanks he gets :D
When you look back on it Trump looks kind of silly for his passionate advocacy of Israel. At the end of the day, what did it get him?Israelic people basically owns US MSM.
Might be more going on than meets the eye. Putin hasn’t congratulated Biden either.
Does it ever give you pause that you have the same politics as her?
Does it ever give you pause that you have the same politics as these?
Why are Blacks Democrats? | Princeton University Press
https://press.princeton.edu/ideas/why-are-blacks-democrats
African Americans are Democrats. Since 1968 no Republican presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the African American vote
Does it ever give you pause that you have the same politics as these?
Post backfire of peace.
Might be more going on than meets the eye. Putin hasn’t congratulated Biden either.
Chinese government sidesteps question on when it will congratulate US President-elect Biden - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/asia/china-us-election-biden-trump-congratulations-intl-hnk/index.html
Yeah. Venezuelan President and many others remain silent. Mexico’s President staying silent as well.
Trump 10 point lead in PA and overnight it just vanished.
They said they will offer definitive proof of fraud soon. Fraud, must be some proof - needs to be enough to show election could have gone the other way or judges/justices aren’t going to do anything.
He did get 70 million votes ..
Still has a lot of die hard supporters across the USA.. Including quite A few getbiggers...
A lot of getbiggers have stated a civil war might be brewing...
It all depends on if The Military is on his side.
No, everything he is doing is totally legal. Why do the democrats not want election integrity?
No, everything he is doing is totally legal. Why do the democrats not want election integrity?
This is basically it.Yeah, they've got 2 months. Want the left and media really are obsessing over is seeing Trump concede. I think they will be disappointed. He will continue causing them to meltdown.
I think it's best for all if 70 million or so people believe everything was carried out legally.
It will take a bit of time, but will be beneficial in the long run.
;D. ;Dyes , the proud boys are in hard training as we speak.
He did get 70 million votes ..
Still has a lot of die hard supporters across the USA.. Including quite A few getbiggers...
A lot of getbiggers have stated a civil war might be brewing...
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2020/11/09/esper-fired-as-secretary-of-defense/ (https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2020/11/09/esper-fired-as-secretary-of-defense/)
;D. ;D
It all depends on if The Military is on his side.
President Donald Trump announced on Twitter Monday that he has fired Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, and that Christopher Miller, who serves as director of the National Counterterrorism Center, will become acting secretary "effective immediately."Things are heating up.
CNN
Esper was a goner last June when he disobeyed Trump's orders to active duty active-duty troops to quell the large-scale protests across the United States triggered by the death of George Floyd at the hands of police.
No, everything he is doing is totally legal. Why do the democrats not want election integrity?
It all depends on if The Military is on his side.
Well this explains why his lawsuits are being thrown out.Maybe so, we will have to see.
Trump team tries to appeal Michigan ruling, fails to provide necessary documents[
Dave Boucher
Detroit Free Press - Monday November 9
Judge throws out Trump lawsuit over counting of Michigan ballots
Paul Egan
Detroit Free Press - November 5
Trump has called on the courts to vindicate his claims. Former U.S. attorneys have denounced the lawsuits as irresponsible.
Trump's entire legal strategy is designed so the he can save face by claiming that the election was rigged. This is likely to backfire. Instead, the legal proceedings will lend legitimacy to Biden’s victory, rather than support for a contrary narrative.
Yeah, they've got 2 months. Want the left and media really are obsessing over is seeing Trump concede. I think they will be disappointed. He will continue causing them to meltdown.
Maybe so, we will have to see.
Move on ? so you honestly believe the alleged voter fraud should not be investigated ?? would you say the same if Pedo Joe was asking for it to be investigated ??
Trump destroys the legacy he has build with 70M voters.....just accept you have lost, not by extreme measures, but still.He hasn't destroyed anything.
Also, the sooner Trump steps away the sooner this COVID-19 BS will end. The Dems will want the economy to pickup and look good.
No, everything he is doing is totally legal. Why do the democrats not want election integrity?
Looks like the economy is already picking up. Dow Jones Soars 1,600 points due to the announcement of an effective COVID-19 vaccine. Pfizer says the vaccine is looking 90% effective.
If the circumstances were the same, that's exactly what I would say.
Well this explains why his lawsuits are being thrown out.
Trump team tries to appeal Michigan ruling, fails to provide necessary documents[
Dave Boucher
Detroit Free Press - Monday November 9
Judge throws out Trump lawsuit over counting of Michigan ballots
Paul Egan
Detroit Free Press - November 5
Trump has called on the courts to vindicate his claims. Former U.S. attorneys have denounced the lawsuits as irresponsible.
Trump's entire legal strategy is designed so the he can save face by claiming that the election was rigged. This is likely to backfire. Instead, the legal proceedings will lend legitimacy to Biden’s victory, rather than support for a contrary narrative.
Dems are the ones saying count all the votes
THE TRAITOR is the ones who thinks that voting should stop when he's ahead
Remember that it's your fellow dipshits and traitors that have been standing outside chanting "stop the vote" (where Trump is ahead) and "count the vote" (where he is behind)
Don't you mean Trump will continue melting down? No, he won't concede. That's fine. It serves to further prove what a sore loser he is.He is not melting down at all, you guys are. He is golfing and relaxing. You are so desperate to see him concede because of the closure and seeing him looking weak and defeated. He is not going to give you that satisfaction.
If the circumstances were the same, that's exactly what I would say.
Who cares about those suckers and losers?
How else to stay in Power without Firepower?
as usual you are wrong, the court ruling was by state democrap judge(s), now at the supreme court level. typical libatard ::)
He is not melting down at all, you guys are. He is golfing and relaxing. You are so desperate to see him concede because of the closure and seeing him looking weak and defeated. He is not going to give you that satisfaction.
of course, so the Pedo is credited for this ??
This is basically it.
I think it's best for all if 70 million or so people believe everything was carried out legally.
It will take a bit of time, but will be beneficial in the long run.
I doubt it. Why would he be? He is credited for this though:
Stocks Close Sharply Higher After Biden Gains Swing-State Votes
Nasdaq jumps nearly 4% after wild overnight swings in futures markets
Wall Street Journal
NAZ got crushed today from its highs...
get your facts correct
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHYmG0BAJdK/
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Looks like the economy is already picking up. Dow Jones Soars 1,600 points due to the announcement of an effective COVID-19 vaccine. Pfizer says the vaccine is looking 90% effective.
^^ Poor little sheeple.... having to defend your idol's masculinity? It's failing. Trump is a coward. Loves to talk shit on Twitter, but when he runs into the person he is dishing, he keeps his mouth shut.
There are a few reasons why losing presidential candidates concede defeat:
They feel obligated to the truth.
They don’t want to damage their party’s future prospects.
They are patriots who want the best for America.
They have nothing to gain from refusing to concede.
FOR ANYONE NOT SUPPORTING TRUMP
- Do you dislike that he made cruelty to animals a FELONY?
- Do you dislike he gave billions to stop the opioid crisis?
- He destroyed ISIS, killed how many terrorists without going to war and oh wait, everyone said we’d be in World War III by now with North Korea?
- Do you dislike him because we are the Largest producer of oil?
- Do you dislike him because he wanted to build a wall to keep criminals, human trafficking and drugs from coming in?
- Do you dislike him because he just slashed the price for medications and some cases 50%, which is driving big Pharma nuts? 
- Do you dislike that he signed a law ending the gag-order on pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving options on prescriptions?
- Do you dislike that he signed the Save Our Seas Act which funds 10 million per year to clean tons of plastic and garbage from the ocean?
- Do you dislike that he signed a bill for airports to provide breast-feeding stations for nursing moms?
- Do you dislike that he signed the biggest wilderness protection and conservation bill in a decade designating 375,000 acres as protected land?
- Do you dislike that he loves America and puts Americans first?
- Do you dislike him because he returned manufacturing back to our lands and despite the health crisis he has created record number of new jobs?
- Do you dislike him because has signed USMCA and other international agreements bringing business to our farmers and small businesses, thus making everyone wealthier?
- Do you dislike that he made a gay man the ambassador of Germany and then asked him to clean up national security and unclassified as much of it as possible for transparency?
- Do you dislike that he’s kept almost every campaign promise (with ZERO support from Congress who work against him daily!) plus 100 more promises because Washington was much more broken than he thought?
- Do you dislike like that he works for free, donating his salary to different charities?
-Do you dislike that he’s done more for the black community than every other President?
- Do you dislike that he listened to senator Scott and passed Invest In Opportunity Zones to help minorities?
- Do you dislike that he passed prison reform, which gives people a second chance and has made quite a huge difference for the black communities?
- Do you dislike that he passed VA reforms to benefit the very people who served our country and defend our freedom?
- Do you dislike that he’s winning and signing new trade deals that benefit Americans, instead of costing us more?
- Do you dislike that he loves his flag and his country?
- Do you dislike that he calls out and has shown all of us that they ARE Fake News, and they twist the truth to control and mislead the people and he is trying to protect us from this?
- Do you dislike that he’s ending wars?
- Do you dislike that he has made a commitment to end child-trafficking and crimes against humanity and has made 1000’s of arrests already?
- Do you dislike he’s brought home over 40 Americans held captive, the last one from Iran?
- Do you dislike that he’s proven he was right about the Deep State and he was spied on?
- Do you dislike that he was a Billionaire before he ran for President and now is worth at least 1/3 less… because he loves America THAT MUCH?
- Do you dislike that he’s making the world pay their fair share for the UN for protection?
- Do you dislike that he respects cops, veterans, ICE & First Responders?
- Do you dislike that he does not sell out America to other countries, like the leaders prior to him have done?
Could it be possible that the ones who SELL OUT America to line their pockets OWN THE MEDIA AND HOLLYWOOD and hate him so much for trying to expose them and hate him for putting the PEOPLE first that they manipulate our thinking and control the information we get to steer US to hate him?
These people benefit when you hate the man trying to stop them… so they won’t have to give up the wealth they have gotten and continue to get thru mass taxation and control. Wouldn’t you at least want to RESEARCH this possibility?
Could 65,000 Americans already know the TRUTH… that he has done more for blacks in the last 20 years than our last 5 Presidents put together and is actually NOT a racist but you believe he is because it has been drilled into your head and yet you’ve never researched his accomplishments?
You can start by watching those daily briefings he did during the lockdown (all on line) and then watching the coverage on the Main Stream Media and how they twisted it.
Do you actually believe the President encouraged America to inject bleach?
Did you research the effects of UV LIGHT which is used to disinfect SCHOOL BUSES and medical equipment and is also being used as a treatment for bacteria and respiratory infections by injecting it into humans (search Healight but don’t use Google… they are part of the Deep State and manipulate what we see! And they sell our info, which is why you see merchandise pop up the day after you searched for something! Use Duckduckgo)!!!
They want you to believe he is stupid because if you figure out that he isn’t, they will lose billions of dollars and all their control.
I know… it is hard to let go of what you believed to be true for most of your life. You are not alone.
But your BLIND hatred of this man who is literally trying to save us from the far Left, radical Socialists is going to be detrimental to our country if you continue to support their hatred.
They are teaching hatred and separation… even in families!
You are not allowed to agree with “part” of their agenda and think for yourself; you must repeat their FULL belief system or name-calling and insults ensue… this is the definition of a cult! All or nothing!
They despise LAW AND ORDER. Just look around you.
He supports it, so we are safe and can live in a civilized society. He stands for unity and America first.
You will be amazed at how much more peace comes into your life when you turn off the FAKE NEWS and turn on the true America, where we focus on what unites us, not what divides us.
The media hates him from day one. Impeachment was on the table before he was elected.
They said Impeach the mother Fuc#^*r….but his rhetoric is bad?
He’s never given a chance yet he’s done more in 4 years than any president with zero help from the media or democrats.
Results don’t lie onto the radical left.
How dare he care so much about America!
Love it or leave it. Do your research… I have! All of these are verifiable things Trump has done!
And this is JUST A PORTION of achievements for merely 3 yrs of his Presidency!
I guess what some are saying here is that all the other presidential elections were handled improperly. The losing candidate should never concede until two or three months later when all of the wacky theories of wrongdoing play out.
If something like this happened last election, I'm sure all of the Trump supporters would take the defiance as acceptable and respond with patience and kind thoughts. Hahahahahaha......
"What, Hillary? You want a recount because you suspect fraud? Take your time, dear."
why are you concerned about his masculinity when you voted for a woman?
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Yes, isn't the foundation of our democracy more important than one election. Otherwise, anything goes in the future.
If you really think Biden received the most votes in history when he couldn't even fill a high school gymnasium, I have a bridge to sell you.
Donald Trump on Twitter two hours ago:
Wisconsin is looking very good. Needs a little time statutorily. Will happen soon!
Nevada is turning out to be a cesspool of Fake Votes. mschlapp & AdamLaxalt are finding things that, when released, will be absolutely shocking!
Georgia will be a big presidential win, as it was the night of the Election!
The threshold identification of Ballots is turning out to be even bigger than originally anticipated. A very large number of Ballots are impacted. Stay tuned!
Trump destroys the legacy he has build with 70M voters.....just accept you have lost, not by extreme measures, but still.
wooooshhhhh
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/11/08/rudy_giuliani_450000_pennsylvania_mail-in-ballots_were_processed_while_republican_observers_were_illegally_kept_away.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Biden only 259
why are you concerned about his masculinity when you voted for a woman?
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So, what you’re saying is that he did his job? That’s what he was elected to do... a few years ago.
He probably did all this and more. Despite this, his arrogant personality got enough people to abandon him in his own party, and the American people to vote him out of office.
The funniest part is you don’t even live here. Why do you even care about who is president of a country you don’t live in? This place is full of wackos......
Democrats take the pandemic seriously. We are too smart to crowd into a gym to hear a candidate speak when the can just as easily speak in a safer environment for everyone. Maybe Trump would have gotten more votes if his follows hadn't stood side by side yelling, hooting and spraying virus laden spittle all over each other most assuredly making some of them too sick with Covid-19 to go to the polls.
Why is your masculinity threatened by anyone voting for a woman? Might want to discuss that with your therapist or pastor. Insecurities can be overcome. Yours? Probably not.
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women aren't leaders, still waiting for you to provide examples instead of lame insults which you won't because you can't
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Maybe not in your little fragile little world. But 75 million of us don't live in a manufactured false reality. It's funny to know that you are so easily emasculated. Funny, but not surprising.
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All the patriots who still give a shit about the freedom not found anywhere else in the world are standing by.
Stupid fucker
All the patriots who still give a shit about the freedom not found anywhere else in the world are standing by.
Prime when President Trump said during the second debate the vaccine was weeks away did you mocklingly laugh as Mr. President Elect Joe Biden did?
Odd that the Great Liar was telling the truth then, no?
Stop with this already. If the US government said tomorrow that it was confiscating all firearms 99.9 percent of the population would comply. “I didn’t want to do it but my wife didn’t want any trouble.” Most Trump supporters you speak to believe the election was stolen. Yet what are they doing about it? Nothing ... Voting for Trump was as far as they were willing to go. Once they were told he lost it was back to the Internet.
Pompeo promises ‘smooth transition to second Trump administration’ as world leaders congratulate Biden
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/pompeo-promises-smooth-transition-second-191552701.html
Eric Trump retweeted this:
JUST IN: Puerto Rico’s elections officials have now found 174 boxes of uncounted ballots, 7 days after the election!
It started at 40.
Then 100.
Then 153.
NOW 174. Each box may hundreds of uncounted ballots.
It's an odd tweet because only residents of US states and District of Columbia can vote in federal elections.
Maybe not in your little fragile little world. But 75 million of us don't live in a manufactured false reality. It's funny to know that you are so easily emasculated. Funny, but not surprising.
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Spoiler alert: There is no large scale fraud against Trump. Why would the democrats not also take over the senate? Why did Trump say the same thing when his tv show did not win an emmy? He is just not that good at losing, maybe he has not lost much in life, but the people have spoken. Just prepare for 2024.
#TrumpWest2024
at 4am 120,000 votes come in all Biden ? sounds perfectly normal right ?
you still have no examples, i'm shocked ;D
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You're off by more than a factor of ten. Less than 5% would comply with such a law. The U.S. would end as we know it because, in order to confiscate all firearms, the size and reach of gov't would make North Korea seem like a libertarian paradise.
Sounds crazy, you’re right. Imagine if the government told everyone to wear face masks and walk around looking like idiots. Who would do that?
Sounds crazy, you’re right. Imagine if the government told everyone to wear face masks and walk around looking like idiots. Who would do that?
Pompeo promises ‘smooth transition to second Trump administration’ as world leaders congratulate Biden
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/pompeo-promises-smooth-transition-second-191552701.html
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Trump should do everything in his power to demand a legitimate recount.He is, this thing isn't over yet.
Many blue states changed their election procedures illegally for the election.
You're really trying to make an equivalence between the two? People were wearing masks even when the government told them not to. People working in hospitals wear face masks to prevent disease transmission. It doesn't seem like a great leap that people wanted this protection for themselves during a pandemic.
The 2nd Amendment is the most important right we have and Americans hold it close and dear to their hearts It symbolizes freedom and independence to the vast majority of the gun owners and they will fight to keep that right.
There is no comparison between the two and it seems like you are just projecting what you will do. Half this country still value freedom and let the passively compliant sheeple make the government think they have unlimited power.
I doubt it. Most Trump supporters believe the presidency was stolen. And what are they doing about it? Nothing. If guns are to protect against government overreach then if not now when?
No, guns are for self defense. No one thinks they’re going to overthrow the government with a 9mm.
Btw, I’ve heard they destroyed the mail in ballots (evidence) in PA. In GA, the story about a pipe bursting appears to be bullshit. Gonna be an interesting next few weeks.
No, guns are for self defense. No one thinks they’re going to overthrow the government with a 9mm.
Btw, I’ve heard they destroyed the mail in ballots (evidence) in PA. In GA, the story about a pipe bursting appears to be bullshit. Gonna be an interesting next few weeks.
You still have no masculinity. I'm not shocked.
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says "guy" that voted for woman to be presidentWhy vote at all? It's a shit show. Does it make you feel important?
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Why vote at all? It's a shit show. Does it make you feel important?
Please honor that belief. Someone like you should have no say on our elected leaders on any level.:D
I doubt it. Most Trump supporters believe the presidency was stolen. And what are they doing about it? Nothing. If guns are to protect against government overreach then if not now when?
says "guy" that voted for woman to be president
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Stupid Trump fuckface traitor
Here is how it will probably play out...
Trump will continue to insist he won the election... because 1) he is Trump 2) he is a liar 3) he is dying that everyone sees him as a loser, he will then (as he is currently doing) push his loyalists into various gov't positions, for the sole purpose of making things hard on Biden later on. He will start firing up the pardon machine. Before running out the door with his tail tucked, he will start talking about how he will run again in 2024 since "he didn't really lose".
On the bright side... I am so glad Rush lived long enough to see this.
Here is how it will probably play out...
Trump will continue to insist he won the election... because 1) he is Trump 2) he is a liar 3) he is dying that everyone sees him as a loser, he will then (as he is currently doing) push his loyalists into various gov't positions, for the sole purpose of making things hard on Biden later on. He will start firing up the pardon machine. Before running out the door with his tail tucked, he will start talking about how he will run again in 2024 since "he didn't really lose".
On the bright side... I am so glad Rush lived long enough to see this.
The only thing shameful is the cheating done by the democrats. He should tie this up in the courts for months. I would not concede and would do everything possible to get the ballots audited not recounted. Verify the people who voted exist, and live at the address listed.I knew you were a bitch
I knew you were a bitch^
You live in poverty so nobody wants to listen to your “knowledge”. Improve your shitty life, then maybe you can pretend to be smart. Worthless sack of shit.
Why vote at all? It's a shit show. Does it make you feel important?
Said to a "guy" that is scared of women in authority positions.
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You really make some huge leaps in moral equivalence. You think that because Trump supporters haven't taken to the streets and overthrow the Biden administration that they will do nothing when someone tries to forcibly take their guns?
Do you even think these things through? Play it out. The government ban possession of any and all firearms just like they ban possession of meth, coke, steroids.... Now what? The people will all march down to the police station and turn in their firearms? The government will go door to door of the hundreds of millions of firearm owners and search their homes confiscating any guns they can find?
You are obviously the passive type without an ounce of fighting spirit and will passively comply with any government rule, even if it goes against the Constitution which this country is founded on.
OK, turn in your guns which I doubt you own. I mean, what will you do with a firearm? Wear your masks even when driving alone in your car. Make sure you don't have a certain number of people in your home. Be a good obedient and compliant boy. No skin off my nose. I'd love to see the shock and indignation on your face when I walk through a red light because there's no traffic as far as the eye can see while you stand there waiting for a light to tell you when you can walk.
I can't believe you were born and raised and American. Were you? People risked their lives coming here for freedom. It's in our DNA. At least it's is for half this country.
They’ll ask the public to turn in the guns. Give a time period before the law is enacted. Thereafter the penalty - if found with a gun in possession (home) is very harsh. The penalty if a crime is committed with a weapon is harsher. They will make the penalty a deterrent.
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There must be over one billion guns in the hands of Americans. I know multiple gun enthusiast that have over 100 guns each. As a kid growing up we had 6-7 guns in the house at anytime- minimum.
Maybe not in your little fragile little world. But 75 million of us don't live in a manufactured false reality. It's funny to know that you are so easily emasculated. Funny, but not surprising.
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CuckWho's a cuck now?
Cuck
damn right i'm scared, anybody with a brain would be
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They’ll ask the public to turn in the guns. Give a time period before the law is enacted. Thereafter the penalty - if found with a gun in possession (home) is very harsh. The penalty if a crime is committed with a weapon is harsher. They will make the penalty a deterrent.
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Buddy took me out shooting a while back: shotgun, three ARs, Walther PPK, .44 semiauto, and a 1911. He grew up working in his father’s store in South Central LA, so he’d been around guns all his life. It’s a challenge to explain to a big city liberal how embedded guns are to large swaths of our country.
“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE.
DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN.
941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED.
STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.”
Chanel Rion, OANN
I would love nothing more than if something like this was proven. I suspect nothing like this will stick, widespread organized conspiracy will not be proven. Trump just throws anything and everything out there that will make his supporters distrust the results, even if he knows most of it is bullshit. It's like the Hunter laptop thing, according to Guiliani etc there was proof of pedophilia and a lot of other "explosive" things... what happened? It looks to me like it was mostly bullshit, they would have released the whole hardrive before the elections if there was anything substancial there, but they didn't.
Yes, the fix was in wrt to this election and it's pathetic for the left to complain about Trump not acknowledging defeat when Hillary STILL hasn't acknowledged defeat in 2016, it was "stolen" from her. Hillary and many democrats didn't even acknowledge defeat of Gore in 2000. The fix was in but probably not at a level where the courts will say there was widespread corruption and illegality that will overturn the election.
Trump has to ride this to the bitter end, even if he knows it's useless and that he will be humiliated in the end. He owes his supporters this, he says he won big in actuality, he must act like it. If he concedes it will leave half the country utterly demoralized. Chances are, though, that this will end in a sad whimper where Trump is shaking hands with Biden congratulating him.
What Hilary said seems like a confession to me. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said, speaking at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan the day after Trump claimed victory. “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.”
Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million, but not the electoral vote. Trump lost this election by over 6 million popular votes and counting. Biden got 74 more electoral votes than Trump.
Ultimately, In 2016 Trump received 304 electoral votes and Clinton 227, as two faithless electors defected from Trump and five defected from Clinton.
What Hilary said seems like a confession to me. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said, speaking at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan the day after Trump claimed victory. “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.”
Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million, but not the electoral vote. Trump lost this election by over 6 million popular votes and counting. Biden got 74 more electoral votes than Trump.
Ultimately, In 2016 Trump received 304 electoral votes and Clinton 227, as two faithless electors defected from Trump and five defected from Clinton.
And yet, to this day, Democrats claim Bush was "selected, not elected,” as so wittily put by Hillary Clinton.
Hillary was still harping on Bush’s stolen election when she ran for president in the 2008 cycle. At a 2007 primary presidential debate, she delighted the Democratic audience by remarking, “Well, I think it is a problem that Bush was elected in 2000. (APPLAUSE) I actually thought somebody else was elected in that election, but … (APPLAUSE).”
At a subsequent primary debate in 2008, Hillary said that she and President Clinton had been making great progress “until, unfortunately, the Supreme Court handed the presidency to George Bush.”
This is a good example of what I mean when I say you seem to be oblivious as to how you come across to others. Your unwavering, close-minded bias is so clearly evident that no one gives you any credibility. You cherry-pick an example where Hillary is making a concession speech, as all losing candidates have done (and don't say what about Trump because the election hasn't been certified) and when the eyes of the world are watching. What is she supposed to say? And do you believe she meant these words judging by her words and actions. She has worked against him since day one.
And why do you mention the popular vote? That's not how we elect a president. If it was the opposite case, you wouldn't bring this up. This is your hypocrisy.
In spite of what you think, and I have no doubt you have a high opinion of yourself in this regard, you are just not a fair-minded person and are oblivious to how others clearly see it and react to it.
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Hilary gave her concession speech on November 9, 2016 which was the day after the election and not when the election was certified on December 13, 2016.
There was no real evidence of fraud in that election as there is in this one. It was clear Hillary lost and it would have reflected poorly on her if she didn't concede. They are still investigating this election and there is good reason that this whole process with all the mail-in voting just stinks to high heaven. And when they are done then Trump will give his speech.
There are some other similarities between the 2016 election and the 2020 election. The preliminary Electoral College vote count was 306 votes for Trump and 232 votes for Clinton, with challenges expected in three states: Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
I am not really concerned about how I come across to others folks on Getbig. As best as I know that is the only concession speech Hilary made. Cherry picking implies I picked this speech from others. There is nothing closed minded about stating facts. If you can find where Hilary's concession speech is different from what I posted, feel free to post it. The point is she said exactly what she was supposed to say, just as most losing candidates have done up until now. Who cares whether she meant what she said. She said what was expected.
I know you don't care what others think. That is a reflection of your self-absorption and narcissism and exaggerated high opinion you have of yourself. Yes, you are correct, cherry-picking implies that you pick this speech in particular. But here is where you are simply intellectually dishonest. You argue this is her only concession speech so how could you be cherry-picking it. But you know that is not what was meant. It was not cherry-picking a "speech" as such, that would be silly, but rather the content of the speech the views expressed in that speech. She expressed one viewpoint in that concession speech but for the next four years, she always claimed that Trump was an illegitimate president. And nobody claimed that stating facts is close-minded. Being closed-minded is how you twist the facts to conform to your single, close-minded agenda. Out of the countless times, Hillary has protested the 2016 elections, the attacks on Trump, the spying and orchestrating a coup, and constantly referring to him as an illegitimate president you "cherry-pick" the one time when she tried to be gracious as the world was watching and her defeat was obvious. Then try to justify this deceit by shrugging your shoulders and saying, "She did say it. It was her only concession speech. These are the facts." As I always say, context is everything.
Why not bring up the popular vote? It is a part of our process of electing the President. There is nothing hypocritical in my doing this. There are ongoing discussions as to whether the Electoral College is still viable which go back as far as I can remember. Personally, I think it is still doing what it was intended to do.
We do not elect the president by popular vote. It's just an interesting statistic like saying more men than women vote for this president. Or those with an IQ higher than 120 voted for X. None of this has anything to do with how we elect presidents. You are a hypocrite because if Biden did not have the majority vote but still won the electoral college this wouldn't be an issue.
In what regard do I have a high opinion of myself? Oblivious to how others see and react to what? What I post on Getbig? You'd be surprised at how fair-minded I am. My resume includes over 30 years as a mediator, employee advocate and political activist for which I have won many awards and certificates.
I've already explained why I think you have an exaggerated opinion of your self-worth. It is difficult to explain to someone why they are oblivious because of the very fact they are oblivious. Some of the things you have said over the years have just disgusted so many here and why you are so unpopular with the majority of people here. You are generally viewed as this creepy old man and this consensus just didn't come out of thin air. I know, and I believe, you don't care but that is part of your narcissism. We would all be "surprised" at just how "fair" you are and I would assume there are other countless positive adjectives you could add to that description if we "really" knew you and not what you have presented here for so many years we would be surprised. We'd be surprised at just what an exceptional person you are or rather you think you are. And then you have the audacity, again clueless to the impression you leave others with, to list your resume. After all this time at GetBig you are still so clueless and self-absorbed to know that nobody gives a royal husky fck what people brag about themselves.
You are welcome to disagree with the views I express in posts and you often do. That's fine. It isn't going to ruin my day.
Just curious, but why do you think only 57.5% of the registered voters in Hawaii voted in the 2020 election? It was the 4th lowest turnout in the nation. Would you say Hawaiians feel disenfranchised or were they just disinterested in this election? Hawaii leans heavily towards the Democratic Party and has supported Democrats in every presidential election in which it has participated, except 1972 and 1984.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184621/presidential-election-voter-turnout-rate-state/
Hawaii being the last State to close its polls usually find that the election has already been determined by the time they have even closed its polls let alone start counting it's votes. We generally feel with are 4 electoral votes that we really don't have much impact on national elections. People vote more as a symbolic and patriotic duty. Generally speaking, people in Hawaii are not politically involved and savvy. Perfect fodder for liberals. And we are completely ruled by liberal democrats. Just about a week before the election, I overheard these two men, mid to late sixties, taking about the election. One guy says that for sure Trump will beat that other guy ("What was his name?" he askes) because he saw more Trump supporters with signs waving. "Trump, dat guy, always causing hum-bug." That was pretty much the extent of their discourse.
Finally someone shared logical info
Thank you for that
Sidney...... about to "Release the Kraken" ;D
From another forum:
The 12th Amendment is key here. Let's say an Election happens and the President doesn't like the result. He has the right to challenge a result for any reason and ask for a recount, though he has to pay for it unless it is I wanna say under 1%. Then the Govt, or the State has to foot the bill. So for instance in MI, I think Trump had to sign over $3 million cash just for the recount. Which is why you see his team fundraising.
If those recounts occur, and the President feels that those Recounts were fraudulent, or maybe they didn't do a good job, or maybe they missed something, whether intentionally or not intentionally. He now has the legal Authority to appeal to the Supreme Court. Notice RBG just died, and they fought and fought Kavanaugh and ACB. Precisely bc the Dems knew they planned to cheat this election, with mail in ballots and software.
But I digress.
So now lets say the Supreme Court (who btw will likely side with Trump 5-4) in any event, but lets say they don't agree or see any irregularities or voter fraud.
Trump now has the Authority to exercise Amendment 12 (please read it in full as there are various ins and outs, I have explained before and I'm not going to do it again)
But essentially Trump has the right to bring this to The House of Representatives. Now I know what Trump supporters are thinking, even my friends, "Oh no they have the majority of the 475 members of the House Of Representatives. (which the majority right now is Democrat) This is where understanding of Constitutional Law is important and HIGHLY lacked on this forum and all forums. And I say that with all due respect bc if you guys asked me to understand what you went to school for, your degree, your trade. I wouldn't know shit. But I would say that.
Here is the kicker. The 12th Amendment when giving the Authority to the House of Representatives does not give the vote to the "House of Representatives" it actually gives the Authority of judgement to each State, not each "member" Each State has one vote per the Constitution.
Currently there are 50 states. That means there are 50 votes. Of the 50 there are 37 states who are Republican. Who do you think that 37 R's are going to vote for?
And guess what. They keep saying that in a "tie" in these Georgia Run offs on January 5th (for Senate). In the event of a tie, the VICE PRESIDENT can cast the winning vote for a side.
Now recall above I showed you a letter that Congress sent to the Biden team, telling them that he is NOT the official President Elect and Kamalatoe is not the officlal VP Elect. So the Vice President, until the President Elect actually happens is Mike Pence. So if Trump does not concede, or this is not legally resolved on or before January 5th, then the Dems have zero chance of taking the Senate. Though the Media and the Dems want you to think otherwise.
Watch the news. You will see the Dems and the Media pushing Trump to concede. Begging him to concede. If he concedes, he then deprives himself of the 12th Amendment details I informed you guys of above.
Now I hate to rain on the Parade of the Democrats. Actually i do enjoy it. In devastating Fashion, you are now seeing that Trump will win the Election in one way or another
Your premature celebratory actions cant be fixed with Dapoxetine.
But your tears will be drank by the Trump supporters on the forum as we have the last laugh.
Then you will see various Govt officials, elections officials and individuals arrested and convicted for Voter Fraud.
I really wanted to keep this surprise until the end but it's all just so entertaining to spill the beans early....
But your tears will be drank by the Trump supporters on the forum as we have the last laugh.
My prediction is that he will concede shortly. He is being told, and I think it's true, that the Democrats actually want him to resist so they can utterly humiliate him, preferably by removing by force in chains before the TV cameras. They don't just want him out, they want revenge and maximum humiliation. If they had their way they would want a Mussolini type situation, after all Trump is literally Hitler.They can't remove him until Jan 18th. He has every right to be there now.
So I think Trump will go quietly, then he will be shut out of Facebook and Twitter and people will laugh and mock and Trump can't respond. "They are private companies, they can do whatever they want". Trump should've fought tech censorship when he had the chance.
Hawaii being the last State to close its polls usually find that the election has already been determined by the time they have even closed its polls let alone start counting it's votes. We generally feel with are 4 electoral votes that we really don't have much impact on national elections. People vote more as a symbolic and patriotic duty. Generally speaking, people in Hawaii are not politically involved and savvy. Perfect fodder for liberals. And we are completely ruled by liberal democrats. Just about a week before the election, I overheard these two men, mid to late sixties, taking about the election. One guy says that for sure Trump will beat that other guy ("What was his name?" he askes) because he saw more Trump supporters with signs waving. "Trump, dat guy, always causing hum-bug." That was pretty much the extent of their discourse.
My prediction is that he will concede shortly. He is being told, and I think it's true, that the Democrats actually want him to resist so they can utterly humiliate him, preferably by removing by force in chains before the TV cameras. They don't just want him out, they want revenge and maximum humiliation. If they had their way they would want a Mussolini type situation, after all Trump is literally Hitler.
So I think Trump will go quietly, then he will be shut out of Facebook and Twitter and people will laugh and mock and Trump can't respond. "They are private companies, they can do whatever they want". Trump should've fought tech censorship when he had the chance.
Pro-Trump gathering in DC on Saturday. No looting and no destruction of property.
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No where near a million people. LOL
Trumpy could have come out and gave a rousing (lie filled, delusional fueled) speech that all the little Trumpturds would have eaten up.... but instead he went to play golf. Cause he doesn't care about you.
Sidney...... about to "Release the Kraken" ;D
"Trump now has the Authority to exercise Amendment 12"
Amendment 12 only details how the new POTUS is chosen if and only if there is a contested election according to the electoral college.
The current sitting potus has nothing to do with it and can't exercise shit...
I’m glad you posted this. Regardless if Biden gets in or NOT lots of people going to prison. These literal Traitors (traitors not by Strawmans definition because he’s mentally inept like most liberals) will be heading for prison and hopefully the death penalty
The last time we saw people of any Administration going to jail, it was Trump's.
I’m glad you posted this. Regardless if Biden gets in or NOT lots of people going to prison. These literal Traitors (traitors not by Strawmans definition because he’s mentally inept like most liberals) will be heading for prison and hopefully the death penalty
Your explanation makes good sense.
In another post I commented on how the U.S. Presidential election might be changed or improved. One thing I mentioned was not releasing any results (vote count) until all the polls were closed. To better facilitate that, setting time of closure according to time zones. One example is for them to close at 5:00 pm in Hawaii and 11:00 pm in the eastern time zone. If we did that, folks in Hawaii might have more reason to vote. This way everyone get the results after all the polls closed. Under the current setup, the vote in time zones which close first possibly influences the vote in states that close last.
No where near a million people. LOL
Trumpy could have come out and gave a rousing (lie filled, delusional fueled) speech that all the little Trumpturds would have eaten up.... but instead he went to play golf. Cause he doesn't care about you.
Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention. You are so fortunate that Joe and Kamala care about you so much.:D
Both sides predictably digging their heels in. Starting to smell like brinksmanship.
Tape no like. Bad medicine.
Both sides predictably digging their heels in. Starting to smell like brinksmanship.
Tape no like. Bad medicine.
Yes, yet you miss the irony in that statement.
The people with offshore accounts selling out the country to China, profiting from our uranium, blackmailing millions from Ukraine, keeping millions that were to go to relief in Haiti, destroying evidence, doxxing any opposition, limiting free speech, stealing elections, spying on opposition candidates(and still losing!) and making false claims of impeachment will do no time.
Let's also not forget Mr. Epstein and ol' Sniffin' Joe...and Hunter....all peas in a pod.
You choose that side. That's on you.
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Lot's of opinion and fluff up there.
No. Just someone with insecurities, low self esteem and elevated estrogen levels.
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No where near a million people. LOL
Trumpy could have come out and gave a rousing (lie filled, delusional fueled) speech that all the little Trumpturds would have eaten up.... but instead he went to play golf. Cause he doesn't care about you.
which is clearly you
why didn't you talk such a big game before the election, you only talk now? because you are insecure and have low self esteem which is the result of elevated estrogen levels
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that rally alone has more people than every biden rally combined
we don't need trump to be our buddy, just goes to show how stupid you libs are you vote for the candidate that you can imagine being your friend ::)
he does his job better than any president in our lifetimes, hence why we vote for him
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Worst case scenario is that half the country feels the other stole it, no matter who wins/won.
Projection much? You obviously missed all my posts calling Trump an idiot. Certainly must have missed all the ones I made where I stated the only thing dumber than Trump are his supporters. Which you have just proven once again.
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Probably why there are so many covid cases being traced back to Trumpy rallies too.
If his job was to blatantly lie every time he opened his mouth and get all his administration and friends indicted on criminal charges.... great job. Otherwise, boo hoo!
you did not post this often, typical coward that doesn't talk until it's safe to talk
i already pointed out you libs are more likely to be mentally broken heck you can't even post the good things biden has done in 47 years yet we are the dumb ones?
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Who here would take up Arms in this upcoming civil war? I can’t participate as I do not reside in Trump 2020 land