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Israeli soldiers display palestinians "for sale" on Instagram
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/israel-soldier-palestine-instagram-story/
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Just nuke Jerusalem and move on.
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Just nuke Jerusalem and move on.
From orbit..?
(http://i.postimg.cc/BQS11jt6/u-http-www-avpgalaxy-net-wordpress-wp-content-uploads-2015-10-hicks-02.jpg)
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From orbit..?
(http://i.postimg.cc/BQS11jt6/u-http-www-avpgalaxy-net-wordpress-wp-content-uploads-2015-10-hicks-02.jpg)
It's the only way to be sure...
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Has to be fake, those prices are far too low for the chosen types. ;)
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Has to be fake, those prices are far too low for the chosen types. ;)
Some Arab would buy them , they'll get castrated !.
Arabs, sell Afros for $ 200 on Tripoli slave market :D
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I have friends on both sides of the Israel/Palestine divide. Both sides deserve to live in peace. I would advise my friends who are the most fervent supporters of Israel that the best path forward is a fair, 2 state solution. Apartheid will eventually not be tolerated by the west. Namely the US. At some point, a one state solution will result in Israel having elected Arab leaders. This will not secure the existence of the nation state of Israel.
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WTF is this thread? Israel has USA military might free of charge vs. people with stones, camels, and a couple of rockets.
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Just nuke Jerusalem and move on.
If Palestine laid down their weapons there would be no more fighting
If Israeli laid down their weapons there would be no more Israel
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Yet more proof that diversity is shit.
If Jews are so bent on shoving divershitty down the throats of White Gentiles, how about THEY can take in all the "diverse" people in the West?
Why should White people have to enjoy all this "diversity"? Just take it all and get it the fuck out of here - send it all to Israel. Let Jews enjoy the diversity.
White people are evil and don't deserve to be enriched with"diversity". Give it all to Jews.
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I am quite impressed with that iron condor missile defence system, not least because I don't understand how it works technically.
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Who would buy an Arab? Unless it's Mercedes Khani.
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If Palestine laid down their weapons there would be no more fighting
If Israeli laid down their weapons there would be no more Israel
Are you israeli too? If the arabs laid down their weapons the government would stream roll them and expand, remember it was one of us that killed Rabin, not an arab, one of us.
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Are you israeli too? If the arabs laid down their weapons the government would stream roll them and expand, remember it was one of us that killed Rabin, not an arab, one of us.
Bingo!
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CO0fI3YLQAs/?igshid=c6pmt5ugybvg
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If Palestine laid down their weapons there would be no more fighting
If Israeli laid down their weapons there would be no more Israel
Beautifully said. So true. Netanyahu has drawn the line this time. Stop or be destroyed. Israel doesn't bluff. They could destroy all their enemies in a matter of days but they don't. But keep pushing them.
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Who would buy an Arab? Unless it's Mercedes Khani.
;D
Allah Akbar, bitches.
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The Jews stole most of their land, and now they want it all. They aren't the victims here.
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The Jews stole most of their land, and now they want it all. They aren't the victims here.
Bingo.
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The Jews stole most of their land, and now they want it all. They aren't the victims here.
They didn’t start any wars. Biden gave them $250mil in that fake $2trillion “stimulus” and this is what’s it’s being used for....to attack Israel. Biden literally funded terrorists....again. Nothing like shitting on our allies
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They didn’t start any wars. Biden gave them $250mil in that fake $2trillion “stimulus” and this is what’s it’s being used for....to attack Israel. Biden literally funded terrorists....again. Nothing like shitting on our allies
The average Israeli views you as a moron and an easily manipulated pawn in their game/plan.
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The average Israeli views you as a moron and an easily manipulated pawn in their game/plan.
Great answer. Wouldn’t expect anything more
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Great answer. Wouldn’t expect anything more
I sounded like a dick, I realize that but that was not my intention. Evangelicals want Israel to exist to usher in the end times and Israel is more than happy to take advantage of that. It's nonsense. End times was never part of Christianity. It is an invention dating back to the late 1800's. But, they need to get a 2 state solution if they want to be around as a Jewish state/homeland in the decades if not centuries to come. I wasn't personally attacking you and apologize if it came across that way.
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I sounded like a dick, I realize that but that was not my intention. Evangelicals want Israel to exist to usher in the end times and Israel is more than happy to take advantage of that. It's nonsense. End times was never part of Christianity. It is an invention dating back to the late 1800's. But, they need to get a 2 state solution if they want to be around as a Jewish state/homeland in the decades if not centuries to come. I wasn't personally attacking you and apologize if it came across that way.
We’re always good...
Just take 5 min to watch this.
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Not bad!
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Jews don't hate arabs except in a very narrow sense. What Jews hate is Christianity and the white Euro. That's why Jews are the biggest Champions for Muslim rights and Muslim immigration to countries with European-stock people is so so important. Muslims are inconsequential, they can't do shit to Jews, the real threat is whites. With this conflict they could decimate the Palestinians completely within minutes, only problem is maintaining good relations with the people watching so there is a massive PR campaign.
Seems to me like they have extra strong disdain for Catholicism. AFAIK Christians in Israel cannot proselytize to Jews, it's against the law.
I'm not a Christian but this Evangelical-Jew love affair is very strange to me. When the endtimes come isn't God supposed to kill all the unbelievers, including the non-Christian Jews? I may not understand much about Evangelicals so help me out. Or are Jews given special dispensation where they can curse Jesus and call his mother a whore and it's A-OK and they are saved too? How do Christians reconcile the Jews' deep visceral hatred of Christianity with their faith?
Another thing, which is quite something, is that Jews are in the business of training and arming and medically treating ISIS LoL. Do they have a problem with terrorism as such? Lol hardly, not when it's against people like Assad who actually let Christians operate in Syria. Will Isis etc go for such? Lol.
What a mess. I don't care about the inbred Arabs but I care even less about the Jews.
Bodybuilding related: Kai Greene tweeted "Free Palestine" the other day and can you imagine the shitstorm lol. 2K comments on just one IG account reporting it. People are saying Kai is back to sucking cock and fucking grapefruit because his boss is Aaron Singerman.
I couldn't watch this shit for more that 2 minutes. Kai has probably been forced to grovel and walk back his endorsement of "free Palestine" by now. "I just want peace for all, I love Jews more than anything" :D
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You all have to remember one simple thing when you ask for a two state solution, and peace. It will never happen with Hamas in power, and only when you have reasonable leaders that truly want peace. Until the Palestinian people bring in people who want peace and a two state solution, it just will not happen. The Arab countries have given up, why four Arab countries made peace deals last year with Israel, and why many others are on the verge. Hamas understands this and needs this type of war.
Don't forget, it was Hamas that started with hundreds of missiles into Israel going after innocent people - they don't care.
And don't forget, the simple charter that Hamas continues to stand for, and WONT CHANGE IT. "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"
If people want change, then make the hard choices and change the leaders, but alas, if they even speak of this, they will be killed by Hamas.
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Yet more proof that diversity is shit.
If Jews are so bent on shoving divershitty down the throats of White Gentiles, how about THEY can take in all the "diverse" people in the West?
Why should White people have to enjoy all this "diversity"? Just take it all and get it the fuck out of here - send it all to Israel. Let Jews enjoy the diversity.
White people are evil and don't deserve to be enriched with"diversity". Give it all to Jews.
The top percent of all the jews are calling the "shots"... all others are propped up cannon fodder.
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I don't see how either a two state or one state solution would be possible. Maybe a tiny sliver of land for the Palestinians on the precondition of no military and no access to waepons, and hundreds of other preconditions. What kind of state would that be? A one state solutions where Palestinians were made Israelis would never be allowed either because the arabs would just outbreed the Jews. When Tucker pointed out the ADL's double standard on this issue he was called an anti-Semite Lol. White Euros should be outbred because they are the root of all evil but Jews have a right to preserve their DNA.
I haven't studied these issues in depth but it appears to me like there is no solution to the conflict other than relocating the Palestinians somewhere else, but they won't go for that I don't think? And if they did get a state somewhere else it would be perfect, easier to bomb. Israel would love to send them all to Europe though, of that I'm sure.
I'm not really on anyone's side here. The arabs are quite animalistic and stupid. Here in Sweden if I were to voice support for Israel in public I would risk a beatdown. Palestinians were planning some demonstration here but authorities were worried and urged people to stay at home! I don't know what came of it, can't stand to read the news :D
What does irritate me is when Israel is the only state in the world that is allowed to be ethnonationalist. Blood and soil!
Outbreeding the Jews in Israel is called a soft genocide, which it is, but it's called something else in Europe and the US, it's the moral thing to do.
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Here in Sweden (Malmö), they've raised a Pink Unicorn-statue (symbol for World Pride) and of course the Palestine folks are seizing this opportunity.
(https://images.hdsydsvenskan.se/preset:full/SBYM_ivghwyf8_7TWXO0zpXlE0c.jpg)
Gays for Gaza???
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Where's Allah when we need him?
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We’re always good...
Just take 5 min to watch this.
very interesting from the perspective of the muslim neighbors too. Muslims always crying for a war and more things like certain cultures who will remain nameless
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I was in Israel last year. Most people don’t like these wars and want peace. It’s the old gov that keeps this shit going.
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I haven't studied these issues in depth but it appears to me like there is no solution to the conflict other than relocating the Palestinians somewhere else, but they won't go for that I don't think? And if they did get a state somewhere else it would be perfect, easier to bomb. Israel would love to send them all to Europe though, of that I'm sure.
That's the problem, the Palestinians will never leave. Even if they could all relocate to another place they wouldn't. They would rather die than leave this land.
Regardless of the past, Israel will never allow them into their land. And they shouldn't, at this point there is so much anger on both sides there is no diplomatic solution.
Hamas has been terrorizing this entire region for too long, they need to be exterminated. But America knows better, we just sit on the fence giving money to both sides and watch them fight. We are doing nothing to help the situation.
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Gays for Gaza???
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But they have no balls & fight Jews in the Holly land !.
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Palestinians didn't exist in the Ottoman empire time , until 1918.
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The Jews stole most of their land, and now they want it all. They aren't the victims here.
How could they have stolen their land? They occupy less than one percent of the landmass. And what do you mean they want it all? It's the Arabs that are trying to take their land. Israel doesn't want more land. They have proved it time and again by giving up territory like Gaza. They just want to be left alone.
Do you believe there should be a Jewish state or should the whole area belong to the Arabs?
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The average Israeli views you as a moron and an easily manipulated pawn in their game/plan.
How so? Have you been to Israel or know somebody that lives there? Israel was overwhelmingly pro-Trump, who has been the biggest supporter of Israel than any other President.
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I would comment further upon this but the libtards are so fucking stupid that it would not be worth the effort. Suffice to say that Palestinians should just go and find the largest pile of camel dung in the middle of the Sahara and establish their own nation with the rest of the flies.
At least then those lazy cumbags wouldn't be able to run that further into the ground. Fucking retards, the lot of them. Like democraps, they want everything for nothing at someone else's expense and effort. FTN.
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I sounded like a dick, I realize that but that was not my intention. Evangelicals want Israel to exist to usher in the end times and Israel is more than happy to take advantage of that. It's nonsense. End times was never part of Christianity. It is an invention dating back to the late 1800's. But, they need to get a 2 state solution if they want to be around as a Jewish state/homeland in the decades if not centuries to come. I wasn't personally attacking you and apologize if it came across that way.
That may be so for evangelicals but America supports Israel because they are one of our greatest allies and the only democratic state in the region.
Nothing to do with religion or Christianity.
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That may be so for evangelicals but America supports Israel because they are one of our greatest allies and the only democratic state in the region.
Nothing to do with religion or Christianity.
Yup. When I had my faith, I didn't want to usher in anything because such things are not the domain of followers of the Nazarene.
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That's the problem, the Palestinians will never leave. Even if they could all relocate to another place they wouldn't. They would rather die than leave this land.
Regardless of the past, Israel will never allow them into their land. And they shouldn't, at this point there is so much anger on both sides there is no diplomatic solution.
Hamas has been terrorizing this entire region for too long, they need to be exterminated. But America knows better, we just sit on the fence giving money to both sides and watch them fight. We are doing nothing to help the situation.
What do you mean by this? There are Arabs in Israel. There are Mosques in Israel. Arabs serve in the Knesset where they routinely heckle Israeli leaders like Netanyahu. There are Arab Israelis. There are no such thing as Jewish Arabs.
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Palestinians didn't exist in the Ottoman empire time , until 1918.
"Palestine" is just a made-up state. Palestine has never existed — before or since — as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire, and, briefly, by the British after World War I.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.
But that’s too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
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"Palestine" is just a made-up state. Palestine has never existed — before or since — as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire, and, briefly, by the British after World War I.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.
But that’s too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
They were created in 1967 !.
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They were created in 1967 !.
Isn’t it interesting that prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, there was no serious movement for a Palestinian homeland?
In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria, and East Jerusalem. But they didn’t capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan’s King Hussein. I can’t help but wonder why all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple, and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.
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"Palestine" is just a made-up state. Palestine has never existed — before or since — as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire, and, briefly, by the British after World War I.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.
But that’s too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century bce occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century ce in “Syria Palaestina,”
https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine (https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine)
Philistia goes back to 1190 BC before Israel.
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Isn’t it interesting that prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, there was no serious movement for a Palestinian homeland?
In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria, and East Jerusalem. But they didn’t capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan’s King Hussein. I can’t help but wonder why all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple, and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.
And for nearly 20 years after Israel's creation, Jordan controlled the West Bank. Only after it was controlled by Israel was there any meaningful outrage that there were Arab refugees in the West Bank.
The West doesn't care much what Arabs do to each other (Saudi Arabia and Yemen didn't get around to "banning" slavery until 1962), but throw in a Jewish state and a new ethnic group, and the West can't stop criticizing that Jewish state
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That may be so for evangelicals but America supports Israel because they are one of our greatest allies and the only democratic state in the region.
Nothing to do with religion or Christianity.
America supports Israel but does the American people? If it was publicized exactly how much money Israel receives each year the people wouldn't support it as much, I don't think. Even now if you polled the people there might not be tremendous support. What is the US really getting out of it, except loss of American blood and money? There is tremendous loss of life on the other side too. We may say we don't care but I think it was disgusting when Albright said 500K loss of Iraqi childers lives was worth it for the Iraq wars. Jews demanded that war and it was shown it was all based on a lie.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whose-war/
It's funny how Trump wanted to extricate the US from middle eastern wars. At the same time he is the biggest Israel supporter and now criticized Biden for not supporting Israel enough. But why is the US in the middle east in the first place? It is first and foremost because Israel demands it. The gulf wars were US Jewish projects, same with Afghanistan. Were Jews happy when Trump said he wanted to leave the ME? They were not. Israel and US Jewish neocons are forever demanding that the US attack Iran. "Let's you and him fight." These people were the first to stab Trump in the back also, even congratulating Biden before China and Russia did so Lol. :D
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How could they have stolen their land? They occupy less than one percent of the landmass. And what do you mean they want it all? It's the Arabs that are trying to take their land. Israel doesn't want more land. They have proved it time and again by giving up territory like Gaza. They just want to be left alone.
Do you believe there should be a Jewish state or should the whole area belong to the Arabs?
Don't kill me if this is wrong, but weren't some 700,000 Arabs displaced at Israel's founding 1948? And a few 100K in the months before. Can it be said that it was absolutely just towards those people who had grown up there and the Jews that came in from the outside obviously had a right to the land? I don't see it unless you invoke religion.
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Don't kill me if this is wrong, but weren't some 700,000 Arabs displaced at Israel's founding 1948? And a few 100K in the months before. Can it be said that it was absolutely just towards those people who had grown up there and the Jews that came in from the outside obviously had a right to the land? I don't see it unless you invoke religion.
Dude, you're asking questions. No violence can come from that. :D
After Israel declared independence/statehood, the surrounding Arab nations told (via newspapers and radio) the Arabs in Israel to leave, so that that they could push the Jews into the Mediterranean. Several hundred thousand went to the West Bank or Gaza, FULLY expecting their Arab brothers to crush the Jews. Jordan controlled the West Bank, and Egypt controlled Gaza. After the first Arab-Israeli war neither Jordon nor Egypt allowed the refugees to become citizens in their countries, and Israel refused to allow them back. If you were an Israeli in 1949, would you welcome back your Arab neighbors who expected you to be dead?
Several hundred thousand other Arabs left Israel, immigrating to other Arabs states.
About 160,000 Arabs remained in Israel and they and their descendants are Israeli citizens today.
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Dude, you're asking questions. No violence can come from that. :D
After Israel declared independence/statehood, the surrounding Arab nations told (via newspapers and radio) the Arabs in Israel to leave, so that that they could push the Jews into the Mediterranean. Several hundred thousand went to the West Bank or Gaza, FULLY expecting their Arab brothers to crush the Jews. Jordan controlled the West Bank, and Egypt controlled Gaza. After the first Arab-Israeli war neither Jordon nor Egypt allowed the refugees to become citizens in their countries, and Israel refused to allow them back. If you were an Israeli in 1949, would you welcome back your Arab neighbors who expected you to be dead?
Several hundred thousand other Arabs left Israel, immigrating to other Arabs states.
About 160,000 Arabs remained in Israel and they and their descendants are Israeli citizens today.
I can see it from the Jews' side but I'm not Jewish nor an Evangelical Christian so I don't think they necessarily have a legitimate claim to what the see as Israel, I don't care about any biblical claim.They want to expand too, whereas the UN and most of the world think they are illegally settling Gaza as it is.
You could make similar claims for Nazi's too. After Judea declared war on Germany Germans were justified in doing what they did. After all, Jews wanted to starve and kill the Germans.
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I can see it from the Jews' side but I'm not Jewish nor an Evangelical Christian so I don't think they necessarily have a legitimate claim to what the see as Israel, I don't care about any biblical claim.They want to expand too, whereas the UN and most of the world think they are illegally settling Gaza as it is.
You could make similar claims for Nazi's too. After Judea declared war on Germany Germans were justified in doing what they did. After all, Jews wanted to starve and kill the Germans.
That's what happened - to Boycott Hitler's regime, Jews of the world united and used their considerable media influence to get other White-majority nations to boycott Germany. Since 1/3 of Germany's economy was based on exports, it stood to reason that 1/3 of the population would suffer by this boycott. Here is the Wikipedia page that outlines this vile oppression of Germans committed by Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1933_anti-Nazi_boycott
How did Hitler respond? In typical, respectful and RESTRAINED fashion, Hitler boycotted Jewish businesses within Germany for one day - ONE DAY. One April 1st, 1933, and in response to the ONGOING abuse initiated against Germans by Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_boycott_of_Jewish_businesses
I would love for ANYONE to explain to me why Hitler was out of line to boycott Jewish businesses with Germany for ONE DAY, when Jews had just used their media influence and financial clout to boycott Germany PERMANENTLY - again, an act that would directly cause 1 in 3 Germans to suffer.
And yet, despite all of the continual ABUSE that Jews caused Germans, Germany still thrived. And it was clear that all Germans had to do [and ultimately, all any White country had to - or still has to - do] is to remove Jews from positions of finance and media, and they will thrive.
Germany continued to rise as a superpower, and it wouldn't have taken that long for other White countries to realize that all they would have had to do to thrive would be to nationalize the Jewish banks and media networks, etc.
And the Jewish oligarchs couldn't allow that - so Germany had to be destroyed.
But Hitler/Germany was in much the same state of mind that I am when it comes to Jews [or just "politically corrected" groups in general, as well as SJWs] - that being, I don't want them in my life, because of continual things like this which will go on, but obviously on a personal scale and not a political scale.
If I allow Jews and other protected groups to be a big part of my life, I'm putting myself at a huge risk, because everything will be blamed on me, firstly. Secondly, how will I benefit? By being told lies that "diversity is a strength", and by being encouraged to support social justice initiatives which will make myself and my children/family/friends a minority in Canada, a country that White people built, and whose institutions and national evolution was created and sustained by White people?
How does ANY of that benefit me?
I am also of the mindset that anything that is not overtly/expressly anti-SJW ultimately WILL, in time...at some point, become overly SJW.
This is why I am not neutral when it comes to social justice and Cultural Marxism - I EXPLICITLY OPPOSE IT.
Unless someone can tell me HOW any of this garbage benefits me directly, I want NOTHING to do with it, and will oppose it every chance I get.
I followed the Jewish model in Canada and the West that "Racial diversity is our greatest strength", and bought into every other Marxist lie, and it led me to what would have been ruins, had I not adapted to it and overcame it. So I avoid it completely now, as a result of my life experiences.
And - am I better off or worse off because of it? I can answer that - I am far better off.
Just as Germany was far better off having given the Rothschild family and other elite Jews the boot from Germany.
And that's why Germany had to be destroyed - because once it was known to other White people that all of the economic problems that crackpot Jewish economics theories say are inevitable just go away when Whites run these things ourselves, other countries would have removed Jews from their institutions as well. And it would have been a giant global domino effect, with every other country copying Germany, and ending up fine as a result.
I have rejected SJW'ism and Jewish cultural/leftist pushes on me 100%, and I am way better off for having done this. This of course infuriates leftists [and most Jews - as does identifying Jews as being Jewish, LOL, they hate when Gentiles do that], and I'm sure they want to destroy me for every day that I openly go online using my real name and say I think Hitler was a hero.
But they know they can't do shit.
Jewish control over White Gentiles is not held up by physical means. Not that Jews are powerless - they did have the financial clout to get OTHER WHITE FORCES to take down Hitler's forces.
But at the end of the day, they know that Whites outnumber them 60 to 1, and if the entire White tide turns against Jews, they won't stand a chance. They are aware of this on some biological/evolutionary level.
In my case, that means that despite the fact that there are laws in Canada that could have been charged with hate speech for posting this, it's just never going to happen. And no Jewish attorney would have me charged, because they know that it would only further "radicalize me" [apparently, being aware of Jewish crimes against humanity in the 20th century makes me a radical], so it's best to just leave me be.
But make no mistake about it - they HATE the fact that I feel the way that I do, know the things that I do, and have no problem openly stating them using my real name. But they also know that all they have is intense psychological and social pressure to hold up their cultural narratives, and that if that pressure doesn't work on some Gentiles [me], that there is not much they can do about it.
When they get really scared is when one man [for example, Hitler - who I believe was autistic] riles up the masses of Whites to make the masses aware of Jewish crimes. That led to pogroms against Jews throughout history, and ultimately, The Holocaust [regardless of how much it has been exaggerated, and how many outright lies Jews say about it constantly].
Of course Jews don't stand a chance against Whites in a global military conflict, despite the Jewish IQ advantage. White men aren't exactly lacking for smarts, and as I mentioned above - we outnumber Jews 60 to 1.
They require psychological and social measures to fulfill their agendas. When those measures stop working - they worry. And any Jew who has read a handful of my posts knows by now that I am unsusceptible to their programming.
It makes them angry, but there is nothing they can do about it. No doubt, some of them would destroy me if they could.
And back to Hitler and his Third Reich in Germany - that's exactly what had to happen, or else Whites would have likely all copied Germany, and kicked Jews out of their financial and media institutions.
That was Hitler's crime, IMO - just naming the Jew, and taking them out of positions of influence, and nationalizing the Rothschild banks. The other stuff about six million Jews being killed as an express policy dreamt up by Hitler is backed up by exactly ZERO objective or written evidence.
Hitler just named Jewish influence as being negative to White nations, and ruffled the feathers of a few Jewish money lenders. He also gave continual chances for Jews to not agitate other nations into going to war with Germany.
Yet Jews still did that, and...well...we know how that story ended...
Again, this is a man who watched as 1/3 of his economy was crippled by organized Jewish financial and media elites, and he responded by enacting a ONE DAY boycott against Jewish goods in Germany.
That is OBVIOUSLY the actions of a restrained man who wanted peace.
But Jews kept pushing it and pushing it, while Hitler kept calling for peace. It finally got to the point where Hitler had no choice but to go to war - a war that Jews had no business sitting out of this time out, either. And they didn't.
In the end, the Jewish financial elite won that war by the skin of their teeth, but I would say that it was about an equal loss for both Whites and Jews.
This is why I just don't get why Jews are still agitating Whites to a degree that I've never seen before with garbage like critical race theory, and policies and programs that blatantly discriminate against White people. Why agitate White people like this, dragging White people who would otherwise just be minding their own business and riling them up to make them nationalistic?
It didn't end well last time - and it won't end well next time either, if there is a next time.
As for me - I pose zero threat to Jews, or any person of any protected group, or any SJW, providing that they leave me be.
If I get dragged into any of this SJW garbage, or find out that my livelihood will suffer directly due to refugees being relocated to my neighbourhood or something like that, I don't even know what I might do. Insofar as this stuff doesn't directly impact me, and as far as I am able to opt out of this Cultural Marxism garbage we have going on in the West, I'll make waves with no one.
Force any of this stuff on me, charge me with a hate crime, for example - and I don't even want to know what I may be capable of doing. I'm beyond the point of having empathy fatigue - I'm straight up just sick of it all. And I want NOTHING to do with PC/social justice issues or White Guilt in any way. Any leftist [whether a Jewish person or a White libtard] would be best-advised to just leave me out of it.
Now that wokeness is dragging more and more people into it [White people in particular, but more and more - just about anyone is dragged into this discussion and called "privileged"], and doing perverse things like allowing biological males like Lauren Hubbard to compete in the Olympic games in Olympic Weightlifting, all the while even harassing a transgender person like Caitlyn Jenner on TMZ, who even disagrees with how insane this is, I think it's just a matter of time before Whites just snap.
Luckily, we are [thus far] still too fat and happy for there to be any WWIII-level response. But if that lifestyle goes away due to collapse of the supply chain or a full economic collapse, I don't even want to know what might happen.
Just seeing how nasty and hyper-nationalistic people were in YouTube comments all over a non-threat like COVID makes me wonder how Whites will act when facing an actual real threat - as was the case in Germany in the interwar period.
Only time will tell. My suggestion to Jews and SJWs/leftists is:
Stop agitating. Don't start a fight that you can't control.
Fantastic video that puts into context much of what was happening at the time when Hitler rose to power to become the singularly most powerful human being to have ever existed [with more individual power than any Rothschild or Warburg, or any other Jewish old money banking family dynasty could ever hope to have - and, once again, on some level, they are totally aware that they will never have the level of power that top White men do - men like Hitler who literally came out of nowhere, rising up from poverty to have the entire world bend to his will to a degree never before seen in human history]:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fis6p176wpx8
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There's always been antisemitism in the US. Hell, when I was in school they taught us that Ben Franklin tied a big metal key onto one of them in the middle of a lightning storm. Now that ain't right. Science or not, you shouldn't be doing that kind of shit to anyone.
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Joo's are bad, Mmmkay?
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It doesnt matter what book says who owned what first, second or third. The current owners are the ones who have the means to hold it. It's always been that way. People have been displaced and conquered since the beginning of history. Claiming "ownership" means nothing unless you have the force to take it and hold it. Currently, the Isrealis do. Maybe someday that will change but the notion that this "this was our land" is quaint and presupposes that there's some big court in the sky that will hear your pleas and step in. It aint gonna happen. The Indians aren't going to get their land back in the US. The Mongols aren't going to get their land back in China. The Inca aren't going to get their land back in South America. They lost the war and they lost the land just like the Palestinians.
To continue to sacrifice your generation and your children's generation to this conflict and death shows nothing more than low IQ and religious fanaticism.
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It doesnt matter what book says who owned what first, second or third. The current owners are the ones who have the means to hold it. It's always been that way. People have been displaced and conquered since the beginning of history. Claiming "ownership" means nothing unless you have the force to take it and hold it. Currently, the Isrealis do. Maybe someday that will change but the notion that this "this was our land" is quaint and presupposes that there's some big court in the sky that will hear your pleas and step in. It aint gonna happen. The Indians aren't going to get their land back in the US. The Mongols aren't going to get their land back in China. The Inca aren't going to get their land back in South America. They lost the war and they lost the land just like the Palestinians.
To continue to sacrifice your generation and your children's generation to this conflict and death shows nothing more than low IQ and religious fanaticism.
So if a stranger came into your house and forced you out so they could live in it, at gun point you'd have the same attitude? If you would you would be a fucking pussy so I don't think you would so why do you expect anyone else to be happy doing so?
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So if a stranger came into your house and forced you out so they could live in it, at gun point you'd have the same attitude? If you would you would be a fucking pussy so I don't think you would so why do you expect anyone else to be happy doing so?
He'd just call the Popo and let them handle the stranger, just like Israel can call the US
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How so? Have you been to Israel or know somebody that lives there? Israel was overwhelmingly pro-Trump, who has been the biggest supporter of Israel than any other President.
I'm Israeli and I and most people I know my age(anecdotal i know) think trump are trumpers are idiots
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So if a stranger came into your house and forced you out so they could live in it, at gun point you'd have the same attitude? If you would you would be a fucking pussy so I don't think you would so why do you expect anyone else to be happy doing so?
Who gives a shit if anyone is happy?? If someone forces their way into my house and I dont have the force to repel them or the means to gather extra forces (police) to repel them then I lost it. Welcome to the world as it is. You don't like it go cry in the corner. What I won't do is spend my life, fortune, and kid's life and fortune trying to get it back. It's just a house on a piece of land...but by all means...bitch and moan about how unfair life is....
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It's the only way to be sure...
:D
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Biden administration approved $735 million arms sale to Israel. Does the 735 come from the 20 bil they already get free of charge?
Palestine ???
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It doesnt matter what book says who owned what first, second or third. The current owners are the ones who have the means to hold it. It's always been that way. People have been displaced and conquered since the beginning of history. Claiming "ownership" means nothing unless you have the force to take it and hold it. Currently, the Isrealis do. Maybe someday that will change but the notion that this "this was our land" is quaint and presupposes that there's some big court in the sky that will hear your pleas and step in. It aint gonna happen. The Indians aren't going to get their land back in the US. The Mongols aren't going to get their land back in China. The Inca aren't going to get their land back in South America. They lost the war and they lost the land just like the Palestinians.
To continue to sacrifice your generation and your children's generation to this conflict and death shows nothing more than low IQ and religious fanaticism.
This^
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It doesnt matter what book says who owned what first, second or third. The current owners are the ones who have the means to hold it. It's always been that way. People have been displaced and conquered since the beginning of history. Claiming "ownership" means nothing unless you have the force to take it and hold it. Currently, the Isrealis do. Maybe someday that will change but the notion that this "this was our land" is quaint and presupposes that there's some big court in the sky that will hear your pleas and step in. It aint gonna happen. The Indians aren't going to get their land back in the US. The Mongols aren't going to get their land back in China. The Inca aren't going to get their land back in South America. They lost the war and they lost the land just like the Palestinians.
To continue to sacrifice your generation and your children's generation to this conflict and death shows nothing more than low IQ and religious fanaticism.
I'm inclined to agree with this, but people on both sides talk about morality and right or wrong. This type of "might is right" thinking doesn't sit well with most people.
I don't know if the Palestinians presistence and "ins'allah" thinking is to be admired or pitied. They think in the end they will win. Same as many other groups, sacrificing for principles.
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I'm inclined to agree with this, but people on both sides talk about morality and right or wrong. This type of "might is right" thinking doesn't sit well with most people.
I don't know if the Palestinians presistence and "ins'allah" thinking is to be admired or pitied. They think in the end they will win. Same as many other groups, sacrificing for principles.
Muslimes are wicked. Their "faith" demands it. "inshallah" means, "if allah wills it".
Fuck "allah".
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How so? Have you been to Israel or know somebody that lives there? Israel was overwhelmingly pro-Trump, who has been the biggest supporter of Israel than any other President.
Umm no. I’ve been to Israel and they mock trump. The gov liked him but the people think Trump is an idiot.
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Muslimes are wicked. Their "faith" demands it. "inshallah" means, "if allah wills it".
Fuck "allah".
I am no friend of Islam. It, and they, should stay out of the west. But if I could say something charitable about it, is that Islam is a masculine and muscular ideology, unlike the emasculated Christianity of today. Muslims really believe, most Christians today believe in nothing. Or they believe in trannies, HBTQ, accepting any ridicule and disrespect of God and Jesus. Really, what do most Christians in the west believe? Seems like the strongest tenet is supporting Israel. That muslims really believe is actually the strongest argument of keeping it out of the west. Islam resists reformation. What is the response of 99% of muslims to homosexuality and female Imams etc? That's right. :D
What's ridiculous is the west saying they love Islam and how it's a religion of peace, but then are upset when the immigrants live like Muslims and keep their faith. Oh, if we just accept the Muslims into the west they will shed all the unpalatable aspects of Islam, the violent reactions to disrespect of their prophet, the homophobia, and they will become just like us, with nothing left of their faith. :D
But this sacrificing of self has not been something just Muslims believe. Zionist Jews begged the Nazis to make life as hard on the Jews in Nazi Germany as possible, to make them emigrate to Israel. But no price was too high to pay for the promise, for some Jews. Holocaust means "burnt offering." Through the millennia Jews have kept coming, despite being unwanted anywhere and discrimated against.
Christians sacrificed themselves to the lions but didn't denounce their faith. Same with the Christians in today's Syria, despite being massacred by radicals like Isis, who are Israel backed by the way. Israel is helping to cause a Christian Holocaust. Christians maintain a precence in Israel despite apparently being pretty unwanted. Depending on how you interpret the law Christian proselytizing can be illegal in Israel. Christianity would never be allowed to grow past a certain point for obvious reasons.
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America supports Israel but does the American people? If it was publicized exactly how much money Israel receives each year the people wouldn't support it as much, I don't think. Even now if you polled the people there might not be tremendous support. What is the US really getting out of it, except loss of American blood and money? There is tremendous loss of life on the other side too. We may say we don't care but I think it was disgusting when Albright said 500K loss of Iraqi childers lives was worth it for the Iraq wars. Jews demanded that war and it was shown it was all based on a lie.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whose-war/
It's funny how Trump wanted to extricate the US from middle eastern wars. At the same time he is the biggest Israel supporter and now criticized Biden for not supporting Israel enough. But why is the US in the middle east in the first place? It is first and foremost because Israel demands it. The gulf wars were US Jewish projects, same with Afghanistan. Were Jews happy when Trump said he wanted to leave the ME? They were not. Israel and US Jewish neocons are forever demanding that the US attack Iran. "Let's you and him fight." These people were the first to stab Trump in the back also, even congratulating Biden before China and Russia did so Lol. :D
The American people overwhelmingly support Israel over Arabs, over Muslims. You live in Europe where anti-Semitism is ingrained in the culture. It is no secret how much money we give Israel. I am ambivalent as to how much, if any, foreign aid we should be giving to anybody. But Israel is an important ally and the only democratic state in the region. More Americans would take issue with the aid we give to Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, and others.
And what is the U.S. getting out of their support for Israel? Great question!
Just like with Vietnam and Korea, Israel has nothing to give us. No oil, land, or other resources that we need from them. It would be so much easier and enhance our status in the world if we were to just turn our backs on that tiny little democratic country. They are a continual thorn in our side and the cause of so much trouble and hatred toward our country. But we support them anyway. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. We are not going to sit by and allow another holocaust. Their enemies want them destroyed. It's in their national charter. They do not recognize Israel's right to exist. Israel has made real tangible concessions, the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza strip; Arabs are free to live, worship, and serve in government in Israel. Jews are not allowed to exist in the Arab world. This is one of the reasons why I say America is a force for good in this world. I know many, many people; many on this very board, mock this notion. They feel just the opposite. That America is the cause of most of the trouble in this world. But just imagine a world if there was never a United States. Facism, Nazism, Communism. Take your pick.
And its nonsense. Utter nonsense that the Gulf wars were "Jewish projects". We didn't need Israel to tell use to stop Iraq from invading Kuwait and stand in Hussein's way to controlling the entire Middle East oil supply.
And it's not just Jews that want America to keep the threat, and be willing to execute, a war with Iran. There is no way on heaven and earth can we allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons. We either stop then now or we are at their mercy in the future. And they have made their intentions crystal clear.
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Don't kill me if this is wrong, but weren't some 700,000 Arabs displaced at Israel's founding 1948? And a few 100K in the months before. Can it be said that it was absolutely just towards those people who had grown up there and the Jews that came in from the outside obviously had a right to the land? I don't see it unless you invoke religion.
It's true that Arabs fled or were expelled during the 1948 war. Again, I repeat, the 1948 war.
There is nary a square inch on this planet that hasn't been conquered and unconquered and claimed. Should the U.S. give back California and Texas back to the Mexicans? Should Hawaii, and there is a constant movement for this, declare it's independence.
The real question, and the only one that matters, is what do you think Israel should do now? What can they do to prevent further attacks on their country? Arabs occupy over 99% of the landmass. Why isn't that enough? How much more land can Israel surrender before they get peace?
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Dude, you're asking questions. No violence can come from that. :D
After Israel declared independence/statehood, the surrounding Arab nations told (via newspapers and radio) the Arabs in Israel to leave, so that that they could push the Jews into the Mediterranean. Several hundred thousand went to the West Bank or Gaza, FULLY expecting their Arab brothers to crush the Jews. Jordan controlled the West Bank, and Egypt controlled Gaza. After the first Arab-Israeli war neither Jordon nor Egypt allowed the refugees to become citizens in their countries, and Israel refused to allow them back. If you were an Israeli in 1949, would you welcome back your Arab neighbors who expected you to be dead?
Several hundred thousand other Arabs left Israel, immigrating to other Arabs states.
About 160,000 Arabs remained in Israel and they and their descendants are Israeli citizens today.
Excellent! Much better argument base on indisputable facts. Especially the point about how other Arab countries refuse to take these Arab refugees. A very important point that is hardly mentioned nowadays. Even I forgot about that.
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Palestine does not exist, point simple, point blank. I am just amazed how patient Israel is with these savages...
Exactly! Just a made-up State. As I said, there is no such thing as Palestinians, Palestinians as a district race or ethnicity, no Palestinian culture or language. They are Arabs pure and simple.
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It doesnt matter what book says who owned what first, second or third. The current owners are the ones who have the means to hold it. It's always been that way. People have been displaced and conquered since the beginning of history. Claiming "ownership" means nothing unless you have the force to take it and hold it. Currently, the Isrealis do. Maybe someday that will change but the notion that this "this was our land" is quaint and presupposes that there's some big court in the sky that will hear your pleas and step in. It aint gonna happen. The Indians aren't going to get their land back in the US. The Mongols aren't going to get their land back in China. The Inca aren't going to get their land back in South America. They lost the war and they lost the land just like the Palestinians.
To continue to sacrifice your generation and your children's generation to this conflict and death shows nothing more than low IQ and religious fanaticism.
Another insightful perspective.
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So if a stranger came into your house and forced you out so they could live in it, at gun point you'd have the same attitude? If you would you would be a fucking pussy so I don't think you would so why do you expect anyone else to be happy doing so?
No, he would fight. If he wins, he keeps his house. Just like a country keeps their land. If he loses, he's dead. The invaders win. The Hawaiian monarchy was comforted with the U.S. military might. They knew they could not win. They cut a deal. Now I down have to wear a grass skirt and eat poi every day.
The truth is that the world is still ruled by strength and force.
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I'm Israeli and I and most people I know my age(anecdotal i know) think trump are trumpers are idiots
Since Trump has been the biggest supporter of Israel than any other president in history I believe you are in the minority. You certainly don't represent the Israeli leadership. Why were you against Trump? My guess is that you are quite young. Probably college age. Well, Trump is gone and now we have Biden. How is that working out for you?
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Umm no. I’ve been to Israel and they mock trump. The gov liked him but the people think Trump is an idiot.
Um, yes, how many people have you talked to? Maybe a dozen, if that. And chances are the people you associate with share the same values as you do.
Again, under Trump, the UAE, Morroco, Bahrain, and Sudan have normalized relations with Israel. This is huge and was setting the ball rolling for further peace. He finally kept the promise that so many other Presidents have reneged on. Moving the Embassy to Jerusalem recognizing it a s the capital of Israel.
Again I now ask you, how are things working out with Biden?
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And its nonsense. Utter nonsense that the Gulf wars were "Jewish projects". We didn't need Israel to tell use to stop Iraq from invading Kuwait and stand in Hussein's way to controlling the entire Middle East oil supply.
And it's not just Jews that want America to keep the threat, and be willing to execute, a war with Iran. There is no way on heaven and earth can we allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons. We either stop then now or we are at their mercy in the future. And they have made their intentions crystal clear.
So you take issue with the claim that the gulf wars were mistakes? Was Iraq a direct threat to the US via weapons of mass destruction as was claimed? Oil was not the official reason the US invaded. Do you disagree with Donald Trump that US involvement in the ME, Afghanistan etc was a mistake?
If Biden said that tomorrow there will start a major bombing campaign of Iran, with ground troops soon following, would you support it, to safeguard "democracy"? If you had an 18 year old son, would you gladly send him off there because it's the right thing to do? I doubt anyone actually wants Iran to have nuclear weapons, it's just that people disagree on what the right strategy should be. You know Israel would've wanted the US to drop some atom bombs on Iran a decade or two ago. Are you confident that would've been the right thing to do?
I know these are a lot of hard questions and I don't expect you to be able to answer them. I don't have answers either. What I'm saying is that this blind faith that Israel can do no wrong appears misguided to me.
The gulf wars being fought for Israel doesn't seem outrageous to me. An example after a quick google:
http://www.ipsnews.net/2004/03/iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel-bush-adviser/
"Zelikow’s casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W. Bush and his administration,
The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and to protect the United States.
"Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 – it’s the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.
"And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.
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So you take issue with the claim that the gulf wars were mistakes? Was Iraq a direct threat to the US via weapons of nass destruction as was claimed? Oil was not the official reason the US invaded. Do you disagree with Donald Trump that US involvement in the ME, Afghanistan etc was a mistake?
If Biden said that tomorrow there will start a major bombing campaign of Iran, with ground troops soon following, would you support it, to safeguard "democracy"? If you had an 18 year old son, would you gladly send him off there because it's the right thing to do? I doubt anyone actually wants Iran to have nuclear weapons, it's just that people disagree on what the right strategy should be. You know Israel would've wanted the US to drop some atom bombs on Iran a decade or two ago. Are you confident that would've been the right thing to do?
I know these are a lot of hard questions and I don't expect you to be able to answer them. I don't have answers either. What I'm saying is that this blind faith that Israel can do no wrong appears misguided to me.
The gulf wars being fought for Israel doesn't seem outrageous to me. An example after a quick google:
http://www.ipsnews.net/2004/03/iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel-bush-adviser/
Iraq was not a direct threat to the U.S. in the sense they were poised to attack us. Saddam had made his intentions clear that he wanted to control the entire Middle East and with it the oil supply. He attacked all his neighbors and we know he had WMDs because he used them. Used them against his own people. We had an armistice agreement with Iraq following the first Gulf war. He violated all the terms which included shooting at our planes daily and kicking out the inspectors. He was given numerous warnings and constant "lines in the sand" which Hussein continued to ignore. U.N. resolution 1441 was the final line and Bush stated that if the U.N. did not enforce it he will. If we allowed Hussein to continue to spit in the face of the national community then the U.N. becomes nothing more than a debating society. Every intelligence agency believed he had and was developing WMDs. He kicked in the inspectors out. Were we suppose to just take his word for it.
Saddam could have easily avoided war just by opening up his country like Kaddafi did.
I do disagree with Trump that we should not have invaded Afhganistan. After 9/11 what were we supposed to do? Nothing? We knew Bin Ladin had his base in Afghanistan. And I also disagree with both Biden and Trump that we should leave Afghanistan. It will be like Vietnam all over again.
Another killing fields.
No, I would not support the immediate bombing of Iran. I don't think it has reached that point. Iran is not very popular in the region and the other Arab countries sees what a threat they are.
What exactly has Israel "done wrong" which would illustrate our blind faith in Israel? Have you considered that the reason we are on the side of Israel and support them as they support us is because we share the same values? We would oppose Iran from getting nuclear weapons regardless of Israel. They are the biggest sponsor or world terrorism and if they should ever dispose of Israel it would then be America, the "Big Satan" that they would turn all their focus on.
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I do disagree with Trump that we should not have invaded Afhganistan. After 9/11 what were we supposed to do? Nothing? We knew Bin Ladin had his base in Afghanistan. And I also disagree with both Biden and Trump that we should leave Afghanistan. It will be like Vietnam all over again.
Another killing fields.
No, I would not support the immediate bombing of Iran. I don't think it has reached that point. Iran is not very popular in the region and the other Arab countries sees what a threat they are.
What exactly has Israel "done wrong" which would illustrate our blind faith in Israel? Have you considered that the reason we are on the side of Israel and support them as they support us is because we share the same values? We would oppose Iran from getting nuclear weapons regardless of Israel. They are the biggest sponsor or world terrorism and if they should ever dispose of Israel it would then be America, the "Big Satan" that they would turn all their focus on.
I'm speculating wildly, though have seen some supporting evidence, that they didn't want Bin Laden right off the bat. Was the Afghan invasion really necessary to get Bin Laden? It was a special ops team that got him in Pakistan in the end.
There have been reports that earlier presidents called off missions to get Bin Laden when they had solid evidence of his whereabouts.
Also, the Taliban said that they would hand over Bin Laden if the US presented solid evidence of his guilt. I admit this may be silly but it's curious nonetheless.
And why didn't the US go after Saudi Arabia where the highjackers actually came from and who reportedly financed the whole 9/11 operation? We know why, it's political.
And what has the Afghan war netted in real terms? The Taliban are stronger than ever! Lol. And are the Taliban any kind of threat to the US? I doubt it.
Some have said that this troop withdrawal is a bunch of political theater, by years end there will be more troops in Afghanistan than now. I bet this is what will happen. Some kind of reason for not going through with it will be found, probably involving heavy lobbying by Israel Lol.
As far as Israel's values and interests contra US values and interests, it's huge topic and not one I can claim to understand with any real depth. But Israel and US are supposed to be two different countries. Do you know how much espionage Israel conducts against the US? And that's just what has been in the news. A number of months ago they found advanced listening devices in DC that were tied to Israel. I think it was said they would try to listen in on Trump's calls etc.
In the days after 9/11 the US arrested many Israeli spies but after a couple of months they were whisked away to Israel and nothing more was heard about it. These spies were operating "moving companies" as fronts for espionage and reports indicate they may have had foreknowledge of the attacks or at least were surveiling some of the Saudis. Google "dancing Israelis" for more. If someone here has researched the topic in depth and sees nothing suspicious about these Israelis, let me know how I'm off.
And what do you think of Jonathan Pollard welcomed as a hero in Israel by Netanyahu?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55484433
And just what are the Jewish values that are shared by all Americans? I'm not an American but they promote these same values and interests here. Is it that Israel should stay a Jewish ethnonationalist country but America (and Europe) should destroy themselves via immigration of Muslims and other 3rd worlders? You know how the 1965 immigration act was another Jewish project that many say was decidedly harmful to the US. Politicians like Shapiro say they don't give a damn about the browning of America (and support the same for Europe) but they for sure don't support the browning or blackening of Israel.
I know you are against this racialist angle but I suspect you would rather live in a society with more people from some ethnicity and less from some other, whatever those groups might be. Very few don't care at all, no matter what they state publicly.
H/T Megalodon
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It's 1:30 am here in Hawaii. I have to continue this later. But just to address previous claims regarding Trump vs. Biden in Israel and American's sympathy toward Israel and Palestine. Both polls just came out today, and it shows Trump much more favored than Biden, 54% to 21%. And Americans side with Israel over Palestine 58% to 25%.
Like I mentioned before, being from Europe there is an inherent bias against Israel that most Americans do not share or even understand.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-indicates-israelis-favor-trump-over-biden-54-21-in-upcoming-us-vote/
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/gallup-polls-on-american-sympathy-toward-israel-and-the-arabs-palestinians
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Um, yes, how many people have you talked to? Maybe a dozen, if that. And chances are the people you associate with share the same values as you do.
Again, under Trump, the UAE, Morroco, Bahrain, and Sudan have normalized relations with Israel. This is huge and was setting the ball rolling for further peace. He finally kept the promise that so many other Presidents have reneged on. Moving the Embassy to Jerusalem recognizing it a s the capital of Israel.
Again I now ask you, how are things working out with Biden?
Obviously you haven't been to israel. Trump did a lot for the country but again it was to please their Gov. Everyone I spoke to thinks trump is a clown. Not a single person liked him. I spoke to a lot in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
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Obviously you haven't been to israel. Trump did a lot for the country but again it was to please their Gov. Everyone I spoke to thinks trump is a clown. Not a single person liked him. I spoke to a lot in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=646675.0
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Obviously you haven't been to israel. Trump did a lot for the country but again it was to please their Gov. Everyone I spoke to thinks trump is a clown. Not a single person liked him. I spoke to a lot in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=646675.0
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https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=646675.0
Do we have pics of this broad, and did he ever fuck her?
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My cab driver in Greece loved Trump so that offsets the Israel folks.
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It's 1:30 am here in Hawaii. I have to continue this later. But just to address previous claims regarding Trump vs. Biden in Israel and American's sympathy toward Israel and Palestine. Both polls just came out today, and it shows Trump much more favored than Biden, 54% to 21%. And Americans side with Israel over Palestine 58% to 25%.
Like I mentioned before, being from Europe there is an inherent bias against Israel that most Americans do not share or even understand.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-indicates-israelis-favor-trump-over-biden-54-21-in-upcoming-us-vote/
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/gallup-polls-on-american-sympathy-toward-israel-and-the-arabs-palestinians
you understand that israel has both a left wing and a right newspapers right? and the country isn't a monolith?
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Since Trump has been the biggest supporter of Israel than any other president in history I believe you are in the minority. You certainly don't represent the Israeli leadership. Why were you against Trump? My guess is that you are quite young. Probably college age. Well, Trump is gone and now we have Biden. How is that working out for you?
Trump was a supporter of the Likud party not Israel there's a big difference. And even then the government is using America and their weird fetish Biblical fetish for Israel,
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Seems too small and too outnumbered to become a long lasting self supporting nation. I guess long lasting is a relative term, but the crusader countries lasted hundreds of years and eventually fell when outside support dried up.
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you understand that israel has both a left wing and a right newspapers right? and the country isn't a monolith?
So? Are you trying to imply that they interviewed only the people on the right? Is the Gallop poll showing more Americans support Israel also a biased poll?
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Trump was a supporter of the Likud party not Israel there's a big difference. And even then the government is using America and their weird fetish Biblical fetish for Israel,
LOL @ "fetish". That's one of the reasons Trump is so popular. We're sick of people like you mocking Christianity which values founded this country.
What do you believe in?
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LOL @ "fetish". That's one of the reasons Trump is so popular. We're sick of people like you mocking Christianity which values founded this country.
What do you believe in?
Well I'm israeli, so take a guess
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Seems too small and too outnumbered to become a long lasting self supporting nation. I guess long lasting is a relative term, but the crusader countries lasted hundreds of years and eventually fell when outside support dried up.
Nothing lasts forever. Do you think America will rule forever? Not at the rate we're going.
Time to learn Chinese.
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Well I'm israeli, so take a guess
I can't. 44% of Jews defined themselves as secular. 47% make up Traditional, Orthodox, and ultra-Orthodox.
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I can't. 44% of Jews defined themselves as secular. 47% make up Traditional, Orthodox, and ultra-Orthodox.
His avatar might be a little hint for you. ;D
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Like I mentioned before, being from Europe there is an inherent bias against Israel that most Americans do not share or even understand.
Most people don't understand much about anything. Or more correctly, they don't care. They worry about immediate concerns that affect their daily lives.
Is there an inherent bias against Israel in Europe? Well maybe but maybe not. In Sweden the media is very Jewish, just like in the US. So if there is an anti-Israel sentiment it's manufactured by Jews. Bonnier, a Jewish family, owns half the newspapers here. So as you can imagine, they are critical of Israel only up to a point.
Sweden really mirrors the US. No political party here is going to put any type of real pressure on Israel. They may complain a little and urge non-aggression in Israel but that's where it stops.
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Nothing lasts forever. Do you think America will rule forever? Not at the rate we're going.
Time to learn Chinese.
No, USA won't be the greatest superpower forever. If the next superpower doesn't feel supporting Israel is in it's best interests, then Israel will be in a very precarious position. It is a small country highly dependent on outside support - monetary, military, and political. This is only my personal opinion. I have no inherent interest in either side. We (USA) have obvious reasons to support Israel, but at some point the scales will tip and the risks will outweigh the rewards.
You bring up learning Chinese. There is a somewhat similar situation with Taiwan. I think at some point our mandatory/obligatory defense of Taiwan will not be feasible. China will eventually get what they want, they're too big and too close to Taiwan for us to want to risk it all to support them.
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No, USA won't be the greatest superpower forever. If the next superpower doesn't feel supporting Israel is in it's best interests, then Israel will be in a very precarious position. It is a small country highly dependent on outside support - monetary, military, and political. This is only my personal opinion. I have no inherent interest in either side. We (USA) have obvious reasons to support Israel, but at some point the scales will tip and the risks will outweigh the rewards.
You bring up learning Chinese. There is a somewhat similar situation with Taiwan. I think at some point our mandatory/obligatory defense of Taiwan will not be feasible. China will eventually get what they want, they're too big and too close to Taiwan for us to want to risk it all to support them.
This is precisely why Israel and anyone who loves or cares about Israel needs to get behind a fair two state solution. Allowing them to continue down the road of apartheid and land grabbing is going to backfire in the long run.
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This is precisely why Israel and anyone who loves or cares about Israel needs to get behind a fair two state solution. Allowing them to continue down the road of apartheid and land grabbing is going to backfire in the long run.
Then the Arabs can give their fellow Arabs some land far, far, far, far, far, far, fuckin' far away from Israel and the Palestinians can go live there and see if their lazy ass, worthless mooslime turdlings can make a go of it. But...
...I doubt it. ;D
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This is precisely why Israel and anyone who loves or cares about Israel needs to get behind a fair two state solution. Allowing them to continue down the road of apartheid and land grabbing is going to backfire in the long run.
This so hard, it's not just about winning it's about dignity, and the kind of behavior the right wing party engages in is supposed to be beneath us. There's a quote, it's something like "my grandmother did not escape auschwitz for us to bomb children." Thankfully it seems that the younger generation(on both sides) are more keen on peace
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Then the Arabs can give their fellow Arabs some land far, far, far, far, far, far, fuckin' far away from Israel and the Palestinians can go live there and see if their lazy ass, worthless mooslime turdlings can make a go of it. But...
...I doubt it. ;D
Egypt, Jordan & Syria don't want 'palestinians' , remember what's happened to Arafat & PLO :D !.
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Egypt, Jordan & Syria don't want 'palestinians' , remember what's happened to Arafat & PLO :D !.
Yup. ;D Like I said - "...I doubt it." ;D
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No, USA won't be the greatest superpower forever. If the next superpower doesn't feel supporting Israel is in it's best interests, then Israel will be in a very precarious position. It is a small country highly dependent on outside support - monetary, military, and political. This is only my personal opinion. I have no inherent interest in either side. We (USA) have obvious reasons to support Israel, but at some point the scales will tip and the risks will outweigh the rewards.
You bring up learning Chinese. There is a somewhat similar situation with Taiwan. I think at some point our mandatory/obligatory defense of Taiwan will not be feasible. China will eventually get what they want, they're too big and too close to Taiwan for us to want to risk it all to support them.
To take Taiwan , China needs to take Guam & US bases in Okinawa ?.
Only 5 weeks ago , Taiwan Air Force confronted 25 Chinese jets & Chings shitted themselves !.
Time of massive conventional armies is gone , it's time of hypersonics & drones !.
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They didn’t start any wars. Biden gave them $250mil in that fake $2trillion “stimulus” and this is what’s it’s being used for....to attack Israel. Biden literally funded terrorists....again. Nothing like shitting on our allies
Yeah, no palestinian in Gaza noticed delivery of 1000's Iranian rockets & nobody notice positioning of those rockets around schools/hospitals !.
Without Iran's support , HAMAS is fucked !.
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To take Taiwan , China needs to take Guam & US bases in Okinawa ?.
Only 5 weeks ago , Taiwan Air Force confronted 25 Chinese jets & Chings shitted themselves !.
Time of massive conventional armies is gone , it's time of hypersonics & drones !.
And the vast and literal high ground of space. The CCP has a plan for that, so we best get to it.
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Most people don't understand much about anything. Or more correctly, they don't care. They worry about immediate concerns that affect their daily lives.
Is there an inherent bias against Israel in Europe? Well maybe but maybe not. In Sweden the media is very Jewish, just like in the US. So if there is an anti-Israel sentiment it's manufactured by Jews. Bonnier, a Jewish family, owns half the newspapers here. So as you can imagine, they are critical of Israel only up to a point.
Sweden really mirrors the US. No political party here is going to put any type of real pressure on Israel. They may complain a little and urge non-aggression in Israel but that's where it stops.
The main stream media, which are overwhelmingly Left of center, may be run by Jews but they are not pro-Israel.
I don't know where you get this "manufactured by Jews" notion.
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This is precisely why Israel and anyone who loves or cares about Israel needs to get behind a fair two state solution. Allowing them to continue down the road of apartheid and land grabbing is going to backfire in the long run.
Who are you talking about? Who is doing land grabbing and a policy of apartheid?
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I'm speculating wildly, though have seen some supporting evidence, that they didn't want Bin Laden right off the bat. Was the Afghan invasion really necessary to get Bin Laden? It was a special ops team that got him in Pakistan in the end.
There have been reports that earlier presidents called off missions to get Bin Laden when they had solid evidence of his whereabouts.
Also, the Taliban said that they would hand over Bin Laden if the US presented solid evidence of his guilt. I admit this may be silly but it's curious nonetheless.
And why didn't the US go after Saudi Arabia where the highjackers actually came from and who reportedly financed the whole 9/11 operation? We know why, it's political.
And what has the Afghan war netted in real terms? The Taliban are stronger than ever! Lol. And are the Taliban any kind of threat to the US? I doubt it.
Some have said that this troop withdrawal is a bunch of political theater, by years end there will be more troops in Afghanistan than now. I bet this is what will happen. Some kind of reason for not going through with it will be found, probably involving heavy lobbying by Israel Lol.
As far as Israel's values and interests contra US values and interests, it's huge topic and not one I can claim to understand with any real depth. But Israel and US are supposed to be two different countries. Do you know how much espionage Israel conducts against the US? And that's just what has been in the news. A number of months ago they found advanced listening devices in DC that were tied to Israel. I think it was said they would try to listen in on Trump's calls etc.
In the days after 9/11 the US arrested many Israeli spies but after a couple of months they were whisked away to Israel and nothing more was heard about it. These spies were operating "moving companies" as fronts for espionage and reports indicate they may have had foreknowledge of the attacks or at least were surveiling some of the Saudis. Google "dancing Israelis" for more. If someone here has researched the topic in depth and sees nothing suspicious about these Israelis, let me know how I'm off.
And what do you think of Jonathan Pollard welcomed as a hero in Israel by Netanyahu?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55484433
And just what are the Jewish values that are shared by all Americans? I'm not an American but they promote these same values and interests here. Is it that Israel should stay a Jewish ethnonationalist country but America (and Europe) should destroy themselves via immigration of Muslims and other 3rd worlders? You know how the 1965 immigration act was another Jewish project that many say was decidedly harmful to the US. Politicians like Shapiro say they don't give a damn about the browning of America (and support the same for Europe) but they for sure don't support the browning or blackening of Israel.
I know you are against this racialist angle but I suspect you would rather live in a society with more people from some ethnicity and less from some other, whatever those groups might be. Very few don't care at all, no matter what they state publicly.
H/T Megalodon
We can go back and forth forever on history, grievances, territory, religion... but you never responded to my question which is the only thing that matters right now. What do you want or think Israel should do? Not just to end the current conflict but to have mutual peace with the Palestinians and Arabs?
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This is precisely why Israel and anyone who loves or cares about Israel needs to get behind a fair two state solution. Allowing them to continue down the road of apartheid and land grabbing is going to backfire in the long run.
I don't think that would make peace. I think Israel could give them half of Jerusalem, Gaza, the West Bank, and eventually they would attack Israel again. I think it's destined for continued warfare no matter what. IMO Israel will eventually lose because of size/demographics/dependence on outside support. But who knows.
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I don't think that would make peace. I think Israel could give them half of Jerusalem, Gaza, the West Bank, and eventually they would attack Israel again. I think it's destined for continued warfare no matter what. IMO Israel will eventually lose because of size/demographics/dependence on outside support. But who knows.
This is a solid take. At the end of the day it’s a numbers game and wealthy countries tend to have declining birth rates.
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We can go back and forth forever on history, grievances, territory, religion... but you never responded to my question which is the only thing that matters right now. What do you want or think Israel should do? Not just to end the current conflict but to have mutual peace with the Palestinians and Arabs?
I don't know tbh. What I see happening is Israel just slowly getting a tighter and tighter grip on the contested areas. The Palestinians have lost. Their strategy now is absolutely retarded, suicidal, they are not operating in reality it seems to me. And if they did get some type of autonomy wherever I think it would be a pretty oppressive regime ruling things. I think people who see themselves as weak identify with the Palestinians. Like many leftists, they overlook the Muslims non-liberal views, because they are "oppressed" :D Kind of like leftists love the violent blacks.
If you are cynical you might think what's happening there now is a gift to the Israelis.
BTW, what kind of rockets are they using? Some have said they are shit, homemade bottle rockets that do no harm unless you are directly hit by one.
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I don't know tbh. What I see happening is Israel just slowly getting a tighter and tighter grip on the contested areas. The Palestinians have lost. Their strategy now is absolutely retarded, suicidal, they are not operating in reality it seems to me. And if they did get some type of autonomy wherever I think it would be a pretty oppressive regime ruling things. I think people who see themselves as weak identify with the Palestinians. Like many leftists, they overlook the Muslims non-liberal views, because they are "oppressed" :D Kind of like leftists love the violent blacks.
If you are cynical you might think what's happening there now is a gift to the Israelis.
BTW, what kind of rockets are they using? Some have said they are shit, homemade bottle rockets that do no harm unless you are directly hit by one.
Qassams, M-75, J- 80 , some can fly to 250km, technology supplied by Iran, fuel/explosive , + 3800 fired on Israel.
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I don't think that would make peace. I think Israel could give them half of Jerusalem, Gaza, the West Bank, and eventually they would attack Israel again. I think it's destined for continued warfare no matter what. IMO Israel will eventually lose because of size/demographics/dependence on outside support. But who knows.
Israel pulled 8,000 Israelis out of Gaza in 2005 and turned the territory over to the Palestinians, which was immediately followed by rocket attacks on Israel. The rocket attacks have continued - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinian-rocket-and-mortar-attacks-against-israel.
Elections in 2006 brought Hamas to power in Gaza. Turning over the West Bank to the Palestinians might result (I think very likely) in Hamas taking over and what you described - they would attack Israel again.
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I don't know tbh. What I see happening is Israel just slowly getting a tighter and tighter grip on the contested areas. The Palestinians have lost. Their strategy now is absolutely retarded, suicidal, they are not operating in reality it seems to me. And if they did get some type of autonomy wherever I think it would be a pretty oppressive regime ruling things. I think people who see themselves as weak identify with the Palestinians. Like many leftists, they overlook the Muslims non-liberal views, because they are "oppressed" :D Kind of like leftists love the violent blacks.
If you are cynical you might think what's happening there now is a gift to the Israelis.
BTW, what kind of rockets are they using? Some have said they are shit, homemade bottle rockets that do no harm unless you are directly hit by one.
Of course, you don't know simply because there is nothing Israel can do to end this current conflict and end this perpetual state of war short of just disappearing. You cannot have peace with someone that simply wants to destroy you. A non-negotiable policy that Israel has no right to exist. If the Palestinians, Hamas, stop firing missiles at Israel there will be peace. If Israel stop firing missiles at Palestine they will be destroyed.
International pressure and response does not allow Israel to just destroy these terrorist savages. Something they can do inside of a week. So all they can do is just continue to defend themselves when they are attack.
As far as the missiles, if these Jordanian Arabs, which is what they are, are so poor, where do they get the financing to launched these thousands of missiles? Sure a few are homemade but everyone knows or should know, that they come from Iran. And these are not "shit" missiles and do a lot of harm -- not that it matters. Anybody start firing any kind of missiles by the hundreds and thousands shit or not at Washington D.C. will get an immediate and fatal response.
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Israel pulled 8,000 Israelis out of Gaza in 2005 and turned the territory over to the Palestinians, which was immediately followed by rocket attacks on Israel. The rocket attacks have continued - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinian-rocket-and-mortar-attacks-against-israel.
Elections in 2006 brought Hamas to power in Gaza. Turning over the West Bank to the Palestinians might result (I think very likely) in Hamas taking over and what you described - they would attack Israel again.
Yes, and Abbas is now in his 15th year of his five-year term. Such a corrupt worthless country. How anybody can make any moral equivalence to these savages and Israel is just beyond me. It's just pure anti-Semitism. Just ingrained, cultural, hatred toward Jews.
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What do you want or think Israel should do? Not just to end the current conflict but to have mutual peace with the Palestinians and Arabs?
Kill them all.
...a little harsh?
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Kill them all.
...a little harsh?
That really is the only option for Israel, again, only for Israel, to end the conflict. If my whole purpose in life is to kill you all you can do is defend yourself for the rest of your life or just kill me if you want to end it.
The Palestinians have turned down every single generous offer for peace. Once everybody realizes and accepts that it is not peace that they want but the destruction of Israel will the international community put real pressure on the Arabs. The problem is, that the vast of the international community wish Israel was just no more. They won't go as far as saying they should be exterminated but that they should just magically disappear.
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The whole fucking area should be nuked, no offence to yo pellius, you seemed to be very savvy about this whole mess, it's amazing that on this day & age we should witness shit like this with all the information out there but despite all Facts, some would rather live in the dark...Smh ???
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Israel has a right to defend herself. Sometimes, the best defense is an overwhelming offense.
FUCK islime.
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That really is the only option for Israel, again, only for Israel, to end the conflict. If my whole purpose in life is to kill you all you can do is defend yourself for the rest of your life or just kill me if you want to end it.
The Palestinians have turned down every single generous offer for peace. Once everybody realizes and accepts that it is not peace that they want but the destruction of Israel will the international community put real pressure on the Arabs. The problem is, that the vast of the international community wish Israel was just no more. They won't go as far as saying they should be exterminated but that they should just magically disappear.
I am not an Evangelical Christian or Jew or Mohammedan. My question to you is how much does your brand of Chritianity inform your view of who Israel belongs to?
If the Palis were peaceful would the Jews love to have them there, as citizens of Israel with no restrictions? Of course they wouldn't. They wouldn't be allowed to breed because the Jews explicitly say that would be genocide. And they are right, but let's not pretend it's a case of "people are people, doesn't matter if they are Jews or Muslims, we just want to live in peace and dance through the tulips."
It's not just peace the Jews want, same as the Muslims. Both invoke their God and history.
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That may be so for evangelicals but America supports Israel because they are one of our greatest allies and the only democratic state in the region.
Nothing to do with religion or Christianity.
has Israel sold American military hardware to the ccp?
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We’re always good...
Just take 5 min to watch this.
prager is just another ideological merchant
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has Israel sold American military hardware to the ccp?
Jews did. Maybe Israel did too?
"The Hebrew inscription on the tombstone of Abraham Leib Seborer, who died in 1971, reads “Ben Torah VeYashar Derekh” (“A righteous and just man”)."
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-the-sleepy-israeli-town-and-the-jewish-spy-who-helped-the-soviets-get-the-bomb-1.8691718
Jews protect their own, no matter what.
It is an anti-semitic canard that Jews may have double loyalties.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55484433
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prager is just another ideological merchant
Is Coach an Evangelical? Just look at their sermons, they are absolutely insane.
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It's the only way to be sure...
LOL! Classic :)
Personally, I would rather glass the region *apart* from Israel, but my affinity for hot Jew broads colors my judgment.
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i'm seeing a lot of liberals side with palestine, don't they throw gay people off the roofs of buildings?
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I am not an Evangelical Christian or Jew or Mohammedan. My question to you is how much does your brand of Chritianity inform your view of who Israel belongs to?
If the Palis were peaceful would the Jews love to have them there, as citizens of Israel with no restrictions? Of course they wouldn't. They wouldn't be allowed to breed because the Jews explicitly say that would be genocide. And they are right, but let's not pretend it's a case of "people are people, doesn't matter if they are Jews or Muslims, we just want to live in peace and dance through the tulips."
It's not just peace the Jews want, same as the Muslims. Both invoke their God and history.
Time for a shocker: There are no Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem.
What about the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? Considered Islam's third holiest site? Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Muhammad ever visited Jerusalem.
Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham. It was originally called Canaan which encompassed Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, Jordan, and the southern portions of Syria and Lebanon.
And my belief and support in a Jewish State go beyond religious beliefs. Jews are unique in that that they are both a religion and ethnicity and the only ones that have been systematically targeted for extinction. After the Holocaust, they needed a place where they can live peacefully and safely. A paltry 1/10th of one percent of the landmass. You are simply wrong when you say that Jews want more than peace. They have proven it time and time again. They gave up the whole oil-rich Sinai Peninsula, real concessions, for the false promise of peace. They forcibly pulled their own people out of that idyllic community in Gaza for peace and what did the Arabs do with it? Now it's just another slum and staging ground to launch attacks on Israel.
And whether Palestinians are peaceful or not they live freely in Israel. They have more rights than they have in their own country. They even serve in government.
But again, you can make all these arguments to sympathize with the Palestinians even though you deny it. Your bias against Jews is obvious. So again, what do you want the Jews to do? Your "I don't know" answer makes all your other arguments pointless.
Stop attacking Israel and then there will be peace. In every one of these conflicts Israel is never the aggressor. In this conflict they are reacting to thousands of missiles being launched at them. What are they suppose to do? Saying, "I don't know" is not an option when there is a missile coming down on you.
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prager is just another ideological merchant
Anything specific in his arguments that you can refute?
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i'm seeing a lot of liberals side with palestine, don't they throw gay people off the roofs of buildings?
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There is quite a bit of cognitive dissonance on the Left regarding all matters. To make a moral equivalence between Israel and the Arab culture is just ludicrous. But that never stopped the Left before.
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Israel caused the current problem, like they always do.
Shows you how weak the israeli army and soldiers are, they pick on the muslims right towards the end of ramadan when there probably so tired, lack energy, dont wont to fight, Jews keep harrassing the worshippers visiting jerusalem and al aqsa mosque, i mean what person would tolerate being tear gassed going to a place of worship, palestinians got fed up and i dont blame them for fighting back.
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Israel caused the current problem, like they always do.
Shows you how weak the israeli army and soldiers are, they pick on the muslims right towards the end of ramadan when there probably so tired, lack energy, dont wont to fight, Jews keep harrassing the worshippers visiting jerusalem and al aqsa mosque, i mean what person would tolerate being tear gassed going to a place of worship, palestinians got fed up and i dont blame them for fighting back.
Please tell us how Israel started this current conflict.
And LOL at the Israeli army being weak. If they are so weak then why haven't all the enemies that surround them destroyed them yet?
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Is Coach an Evangelical? Just look at their sermons, they are absolutely insane.
Have you ever asked yourself this question: Say all the Jews have been exterminated and there is no more Israel. A Matt Canning wet dream come true. Then what? Will that put an end to Islamic terrorism? Will the United States be free of any Muslim threat? Will the land that was once Israel continue to be a thriving, innovative, and Democratic culture? Have you seen Gaza before and after Israel left? The Sinai Peninsula?
Tell me what kind of world you envision without the Jews or is this another "I don't know" question?
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Have you ever asked yourself this question: Say all the Jews have been exterminated and there is no more Israel. A Matt Canning wet dream come true. Then what? Will that put an end to Islamic terrorism? Will the United States be free of any Muslim threat? Will the land that was once Israel continue to be a thriving, innovative, and Democratic culture? Have you seen Gaza before and after Israel left? The Sinai Peninsula?
Tell me what kind of world you envision without the Jews or is this another "I don't know" question?
No Jews = No Getbig :'(
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Israel has a right to defend herself. Sometimes, the best defense is an overwhelming offense.
FUCK islime.
Defending themselves by killing innocent civilians including children..
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i'm seeing a lot of liberals side with palestine, don't they throw gay people off the roofs of buildings?
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Idiot that was ISIS...terror groups, don't compare it with muslim cultures..you can visit anytime and don't worry about getting thrown off the roof homo
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Israel caused the current problem, like they always do.
Shows you how weak the israeli army and soldiers are, they pick on the muslims right towards the end of ramadan when there probably so tired, lack energy, dont wont to fight, Jews keep harrassing the worshippers visiting jerusalem and al aqsa mosque, i mean what person would tolerate being tear gassed going to a place of worship, palestinians got fed up and i dont blame them for fighting back.
Look at that israeli commando..crying..!
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Look at that israeli commando..crying..!
brave soldiers..woooo
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Israel has a right to defend herself. Sometimes, the best defense is an overwhelming offense.
FUCK islime. Defending..!!!
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If we give our peoples money to other countries then our people are taxed to much is where this conversation should start. We effectively funded both sides to what end?
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If we give our peoples money to other countries then our people are taxed to much is where this conversation should start. We effectively funded both sides to what end?
It is not new or unique to want to exacerbate conflicts between different enemies.
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Defending themselves by killing innocent civilians including children..
Fuck off gimmick.
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brave soldiers..woooo
Yet Israel wins every single battle.
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Defending themselves by killing innocent civilians including children..
You play at being a mooslime sympathizer, eh? Some might say you suffer more from your pathetic imagination than reality but that is only because you speak your words to the web and not to reality. Let me ax you this:
What do you have in common with Christopher Reeve? Nothing until you attempt your bullshit in Israel. I'd tell you to fuck a pig, but your mother is calling you for seconds as it is. Run along and join the rest of the libs here in line to the buffet of her butthole. You disgust me. Truly. You play with fire as if you were the Human Torch. Again, to know that reality go speak your dross in public in Israel.
Now then. FOAD.
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Idiot that was ISIS...terror groups, don't compare it with muslim cultures..you can visit anytime and don't worry about getting thrown off the roof homo
they all look and smell the same to me
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Defending themselves by killing innocent civilians including children..
Then maybe, maybe, these "brave" mohamedans should stop indoctrinating them in their filth of religion and hiding behind them while shooting rockets at Israel? (at civilian targets ofc)
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You play at being a mooslime sympathizer, eh? Some might say you suffer more from your pathetic imagination than reality but that is only because you speak your words to the web and not to reality. Let me ax you this:
What do you have in common with Christopher Reeve? Nothing until you attempt your bullshit in Israel. I'd tell you to fuck a pig, but your mother is calling you for seconds as it is. Run along and join the rest of the libs here in line to the buffet of her butthole. You disgust me. Truly. You play with fire as if you were the Human Torch. Again, to know that reality go speak your dross in public in Israel.
Now then. FOAD.
You are truly a filth racist...! People like you disgust me...
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You are truly a filth racist...! People like you disgust me...
Hopefully you are caught in the next round of bombings.
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has Israel sold American military hardware to the ccp?
China is a massive exporter of military gear !.
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............... they pick on the muslims right towards the end of ramadan when there probably so tired, lack energy, .......................
Don't BS, muslims kill themselves eating after 7 pm ........only morons mix sugars & olives ....
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Defending themselves by killing innocent civilians including children..
Tell me about stoning of females in Iran .....
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Time for a shocker: There are no Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem.
What about the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? Considered Islam's third holiest site? Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Muhammad ever visited Jerusalem.
Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham. It was originally called Canaan which encompassed Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, Jordan, and the southern portions of Syria and Lebanon.
And my belief and support in a Jewish State go beyond religious beliefs. Jews are unique in that that they are both a religion and ethnicity and the only ones that have been systematically targeted for extinction. After the Holocaust, they needed a place where they can live peacefully and safely. A paltry 1/10th of one percent of the landmass. You are simply wrong when you say that Jews want more than peace. They have proven it time and time again. They gave up the whole oil-rich Sinai Peninsula, real concessions, for the false promise of peace. They forcibly pulled their own people out of that idyllic community in Gaza for peace and what did the Arabs do with it? Now it's just another slum and staging ground to launch attacks on Israel.
And whether Palestinians are peaceful or not they live freely in Israel. They have more rights than they have in their own country. They even serve in government.
But again, you can make all these arguments to sympathize with the Palestinians even though you deny it. Your bias against Jews is obvious. So again, what do you want the Jews to do? Your "I don't know" answer makes all your other arguments pointless.
Stop attacking Israel and then there will be peace. In every one of these conflicts Israel is never the aggressor. In this conflict they are reacting to thousands of missiles being launched at them. What are they suppose to do? Saying, "I don't know" is not an option when there is a missile coming down on you.
Abraham didn't exist
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Abraham didn't exist
What am I? A mirage?
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What am I? A mirage?
very good
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Hopefully you are caught in the next round of bombings.
*SNIF*...*SNIF* Beautifully said...*SNIF*
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Hopefully you are caught in the next round of bombings.
Hopefully your ass gets raped by muslims...hopefully black muslim cock..you retard basement schmoe...Israel is and will be a terror sate ...human filths!
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*SNIF*...*SNIF* Beautifully said...*SNIF*
read you human waste homo...
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Hopefully you are caught in the next round of bombings.
Hahahaha that was great
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read you human waste homo...
How do you tolerate yourself? Imagine then what, oh...say your parents go through just looking at, let alone listening to, YOU. If we rearraign the letters in your screen name and then stare at them hard enough and long enough we will probably see Straw Manlette in there. Fighting to regain his honor along with a Venti Caramel Crappe'-Frappe' and a box of Crispy Creamz GloryHole DoButtholes.
FOAD.
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Hopefully your ass gets raped by muslims...hopefully black muslim cock..you retard basement schmoe...Israel is and will be a terror sate ...human filths!
Calm down sand cricket, don't you have a town square of innocent people to blow up?
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ISRAEL, INHUMANS STATE OF TERROR..SOLD SOULS ON EARTH..!
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ISRAEL, INHUMANS STATE OF TERROR..SOLD SOULS ON EARTH..!
Tell us more about yours HAMAS/DAESH 'membership' !.
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ISRAEL, INHUMANS STATE OF TERROR..SOLD SOULS ON EARTH..!
Go fuck a Claymore.
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Defending themselves by killing innocent civilians including children..
but no criticism for using children as deterrents?
Lets not forget Shalhevet Pass(z"l), you're lucky we didn't wipe all of yall out after that. I was in the army at that time, that was the sentiment
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Hamas leader, Yahya Sinwar, right after a cease-fire (meaning Hamas is getting their ass kicked and are running out of rockets and needs a break to rearm) is seen here at a really holding up a child dressed as a soldier holding a rifle.
Their children are taught to hate at birth. Killing Jews is ingrained in their culture.
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Israel has the same mentality as Nazis....They bought like to Kill, they are both land thieves ,and think that they are some sort of special race...Bur they are the shame of mankind.
Same military campaign,same idology same mentality...Disgust of human races!
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They are doing the same to Palestinians what the Nazis did to them...Why, because they both evil in their blood.
Roger Waters also pukes to Israeli terrorists..
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Israel has the same mentality as Nazis....They bought like to Kill, they are both land thieves ,and think that they are some sort of special race...Bur they are the shame of mankind.
Same military campaign,same idology same mentality...Disgust of human races!
Every country has military campaigns like this.
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High heels in the desert. ;D
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(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/9d4WcwzLGsOhxHm7A37siA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY0MA--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/3a055qIz5sXn5NA5fjHeuw--~B/aD0xMjAwO3c9MTgwMDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/rollingstone.com/17982ab165f28ff6a5ae3f86d6c066b2)
Finally, I get to see what Just Plane Jane looks like. Not bad. She appears to have the same metabolism as Bhank.
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Abraham didn't exist
Typical of an Anti-Semite Leftist, which is probably redundant. No evidence given to support just an absurd declaration. So, all through history Abraham was just made up but somehow, "hardgainer", who I suspect has very little formal education but just another by-product of "internet research" done solely to support his world view ala Matt C., knows better. All the historians have been wrong except this Jew-hating nothing on a bbing board.
One thing I realized about Liberals/Leftists like you was when Al Gore ran for president. What was so breathtaking about his lies was that they were so easily researched and disputed (creating the internet). It soon became evident that for Liberals/Leftist, lying has become so ingrained in their nature that they often aren't even aware that the are lying. Note AOC's account of her personal experience during the storming of the White House. You would think that she would have known that there were others there that witness the event and knew exactly where she was at the time. But that didn't matter.
hardgainer, you sad and delusional man, commit the sin of not only telling lies, lies that are easily disputed, but lying to yourself. You lie to yourself because, like all Liberals/Leftist, actual reality does not comport with your vision with how you wish things to be which is in a sense ironic because you are not even sure of that as well. Just whatever makes you feel good about yourself.
Throughout my career in emergency medicine I have been amazed at the human capacity for self-delusion; we are the only animal in nature that can lie to itself. We do it so well that the majority of people are totally unaware of what motivates their actions, most people do not act to achieve consciously named goals; rather, they act to placate subconscious psychological value conflicts.
-- M. Doug McGuff, M.D., The Narrow Therapeutic Window
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Israel has the same mentality as Nazis....They bought like to Kill, they are both land thieves ,and think that they are some sort of special race...Bur they are the shame of mankind.
Same military campaign,same idology same mentality...Disgust of human races!
So why don't you kick them out of the Holly land ;D
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They are doing the same to Palestinians what the Nazis did to them...Why, because they both evil in their blood.
Roger Waters also pukes to Israeli terrorists..
Tell us, who & why created those Arabs in 1967 ::)
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Israel has the same mentality as Nazis....They bought like to Kill, they are both land thieves ,and think that they are some sort of special race...Bur they are the shame of mankind.
Same military campaign,same idology same mentality...Disgust of human races!
If you could spell correctly and put together a coherent sentence we might be able to respond to you.
This is an American board and we speak and write English here. Learn to assimilate or just stay the fuck away. We're sick of your kind here.
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They are doing the same to Palestinians what the Nazis did to them...Why, because they both evil in their blood.
Roger Waters also pukes to Israeli terrorists..
LOL. "They" could eliminate every single piece of Muslim trash like you in a couple of days if they wanted. You only wish you had the power to do the same because you would in a heartbeat.
Israel exists and prospers because you are too weak to do anything about it. You only exist because Israel allows it.
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They are doing the same to Palestinians what the Nazis did to them...Why, because they both evil in their blood.
Roger Waters also pukes to Israeli terrorists..
Waters is a leftist retard, who cares what a whiny musician thinks?
Guys so retarded his own band wont have him back... He's Comfortably Dumb.
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LOL. "They" could eliminate every single piece of Muslim trash like you in a couple of days if they wanted. You only wish you had the power to do the same because you would in a heartbeat.
Israel exists and prospers because you are too weak to do anything about it. You only exist because Israel allows it.
Hahahaaa. You piece of shit, racist Fuck..!
Eat this you human trash..
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Hahahaaa. You piece of shit, racist Fuck..!
Eat this you human trash..
You live in the NayTrix, girlie girl.
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Hahahaaa. You piece of shit, racist Fuck..!
Eat this you human trash..
Hey Hasan, tell us about Arminian massacre by Turks !.
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Just an illustration, take your time to watch this...:
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Finally, I get to see what Just Plane Jane looks like. Not bad. She appears to have the same metabolism as Bhank.
Close, but I’m taller and naturally blonde.
And more muscular, I weigh between 135 - 140 lbs.
But other than that, kinda close.
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Hahahaaa. You piece of shit, racist Fuck..!
Eat this you human trash..
I'm glad you posted this video. I usually don't bother to watch youtube videos people post during a debate. I want to hear their arguments and their words. I'm so glad I made this exception and to expose your colossal ignorance and hypocrisy.
The moral ignorance you, and your kind display, is partly due to a misunderstanding, or more likely, never having understood in the first place the whole concept of morality. What constitutes right and wrong. Pay attention, and I'll type real slow for you can follow along and understand. All actions are morally neutral. I'll repeat, All actions are morally neutral in and of themselves. What determines its morality is the context. The situation causing or precipitating that action. Cutting open someone's chest could be an act of horrific violence or a delicate surgical procedure. Killing someone because you want his waller versus killing someone he is coming at you with a machete is quite different. Both are still killing but it is the context that determines the morality of the act.
So it is laughable as well as hypocritical for that corrupt Communist trash, Ergodan, to bring up the 8th Commandment to Peres. Again, just beyond laughable to hear him quote the commandment, "Thou shall not kill." A man responsible for the deaths of countless innocent people. And not knowing that the commandment when correctly translated is "Thou shall not MURDER", a specific type of killing. The killing of an innocent person. Other than Pacifist, nobody believes that killing in and of itself is morally wrong. It is the context that determines its morality.
But that display of ignorance and breathtaking hypocrisy pales in comparison to his charge of Israel killing innocent women and children. No country, other than Israel and the United States goes through more trouble and effort to spare innocent lives in war. Israel actually warns and gives notice to which building they will bomb so that innocent people can escape. Palestinians/Muslims TARGET civilian targets. When a Palestinian gives his life in, say, a suicide bombing of a civilian target they are viewed as a hero and their families giving reward money. Kill enough innocent lives and you get a street named after of you. Even mothers have been quoted as saying that they wish for their child to become a martyr and give their lives in the killing of Jews.
There is no comparison. No moral equivalence. You are the wicked evil people that live only so that another race will die. You are the piece of trash. Get off this board. This board is not for people like you. The mods kick off pedos from this board like True Adonis, why should they allow murderers of Jews to be allowed on a board owned and operated by a Jew? What a hypocrite you are. Your kind hates Jews so much but have no problem benefiting from all the gifts they have brought into this world.
You don't deserve to be on this board. It's Jewish owned and operated by a Jew. Why would you want to be on a Jewish board?
You are an ignorant hypocrite and anti-semite. Go away!
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Finally, I get to see what Just Plane Jane looks like. Not bad. She appears to have the same metabolism as Bhank.
I got a feeling there may be some repercussions from posting that LOL ;D
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I'm glad you posted this video. I usually don't bother to watch youtube videos people post during a debate. I want to hear their arguments and their words. I'm so glad I made this exception and to expose your colossal ignorance and hypocrisy.
The moral ignorance you, and your kind display, is partly due to a misunderstanding, or more likely, never having understood in the first place the whole concept of morality. What constitutes right and wrong. Pay attention, and I'll type real slow for you can follow along and understand. All actions are morally neutral. I'll repeat, All actions are morally neutral in and of themselves. What determines its morality is the context. The situation causing or precipitating that action. Cutting open someone's chest could be an act of horrific violence or a delicate surgical procedure. Killing someone because you want his waller versus killing someone he is coming at you with a machete is quite different. Both are still killing but it is the context that determines the morality of the act.
So it is laughable as well as hypocritical for that corrupt Communist trash, Ergodan, to bring up the 8th Commandment to Peres. Again, just beyond laughable to hear him quote the commandment, "Thou shall not kill." A man responsible for the deaths of countless innocent people. And not knowing that the commandment when correctly translated is "Thou shall not MURDER", a specific type of killing. The killing of an innocent person. Other than Pacifist, nobody believes that killing in and of itself is morally wrong. It is the context that determines its morality.
But that display of ignorance and breathtaking hypocrisy pales in comparison to his charge of Israel killing innocent women and children. No country, other than Israel and the United States goes through more trouble and effort to spare innocent lives in war. Israel actually warns and gives notice to which building they will bomb so that innocent people can escape. Palestinians/Muslims TARGET civilian targets. When a Palestinian gives his life in, say, a suicide bombing of a civilian target they are viewed as a hero and their families giving reward money. Kill enough innocent lives and you get a street named after of you. Even mothers have been quoted as saying that they wish for their child to become a martyr and give their lives in the killing of Jews.
There is no comparison. No moral equivalence. You are the wicked evil people that live only so that another race will die. You are the piece of trash. Get off this board. This board is not for people like you. The mods kick off pedos from this board like True Adonis, why should they allow murderers of Jews to be allowed on a board owned and operated by a Jew? What a hypocrite you are. Your kind hates Jews so much but have no problem benefiting from all the gifts they have brought into this world.
You don't deserve to be on this board. It's Jewish owned and operated by a Jew. Why would you want to be on a Jewish board?
You are an ignorant hypocrite and anti-semite. Go away!
I'm against Israel not Jews, I'm against Jews who are just like you, racist and muslim hater....STOP SUPPORTING THE TERRORISM OF ISRAEL and LET LIVE THE INNOCENT PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN....
Watch this, maybe it will change you're fucked up thoughts in a positive matter..
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No Rothschilds... = No Israel
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Typical of an Anti-Semite Leftist, which is probably redundant. No evidence given to support just an absurd declaration. So, all through history Abraham was just made up but somehow, "hardgainer", who I suspect has very little formal education but just another by-product of "internet research" done solely to support his world view ala Matt C., knows better. All the historians have been wrong except this Jew-hating nothing on a bbing board.
One thing I realized about Liberals/Leftists like you was when Al Gore ran for president. What was so breathtaking about his lies was that they were so easily researched and disputed (creating the internet). It soon became evident that for Liberals/Leftist, lying has become so ingrained in their nature that they often aren't even aware that the are lying. Note AOC's account of her personal experience during the storming of the White House. You would think that she would have known that there were others there that witness the event and knew exactly where she was at the time. But that didn't matter.
hardgainer, you sad and delusional man, commit the sin of not only telling lies, lies that are easily disputed, but lying to yourself. You lie to yourself because, like all Liberals/Leftist, actual reality does not comport with your vision with how you wish things to be which is in a sense ironic because you are not even sure of that as well. Just whatever makes you feel good about yourself.
Throughout my career in emergency medicine I have been amazed at the human capacity for self-delusion; we are the only animal in nature that can lie to itself. We do it so well that the majority of people are totally unaware of what motivates their actions, most people do not act to achieve consciously named goals; rather, they act to placate subconscious psychological value conflicts.
-- M. Doug McGuff, M.D., The Narrow Therapeutic Window
nonsense
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I'm against Israel not Jews, I'm against Jews who are just like you, racist and muslim hater....STOP SUPPORTING THE TERRORISM OF ISRAEL and LET LIVE THE INNOCENT PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN....
Watch this, maybe it will change you're fucked up thoughts in a positive matter..
Fuck off.
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I'm glad you posted this video. I usually don't bother to watch youtube videos people post during a debate. I want to hear their arguments and their words. I'm so glad I made this exception and to expose your colossal ignorance and hypocrisy.
The moral ignorance you, and your kind display, is partly due to a misunderstanding, or more likely, never having understood in the first place the whole concept of morality. What constitutes right and wrong. Pay attention, and I'll type real slow for you can follow along and understand. All actions are morally neutral. I'll repeat, All actions are morally neutral in and of themselves. What determines its morality is the context. The situation causing or precipitating that action. Cutting open someone's chest could be an act of horrific violence or a delicate surgical procedure. Killing someone because you want his waller versus killing someone he is coming at you with a machete is quite different. Both are still killing but it is the context that determines the morality of the act.
So it is laughable as well as hypocritical for that corrupt Communist trash, Ergodan, to bring up the 8th Commandment to Peres. Again, just beyond laughable to hear him quote the commandment, "Thou shall not kill." A man responsible for the deaths of countless innocent people. And not knowing that the commandment when correctly translated is "Thou shall not MURDER", a specific type of killing. The killing of an innocent person. Other than Pacifist, nobody believes that killing in and of itself is morally wrong. It is the context that determines its morality.
But that display of ignorance and breathtaking hypocrisy pales in comparison to his charge of Israel killing innocent women and children. No country, other than Israel and the United States goes through more trouble and effort to spare innocent lives in war. Israel actually warns and gives notice to which building they will bomb so that innocent people can escape. Palestinians/Muslims TARGET civilian targets. When a Palestinian gives his life in, say, a suicide bombing of a civilian target they are viewed as a hero and their families giving reward money. Kill enough innocent lives and you get a street named after of you. Even mothers have been quoted as saying that they wish for their child to become a martyr and give their lives in the killing of Jews.
There is no comparison. No moral equivalence. You are the wicked evil people that live only so that another race will die. You are the piece of trash. Get off this board. This board is not for people like you. The mods kick off pedos from this board like True Adonis, why should they allow murderers of Jews to be allowed on a board owned and operated by a Jew? What a hypocrite you are. Your kind hates Jews so much but have no problem benefiting from all the gifts they have brought into this world.
You don't deserve to be on this board. It's Jewish owned and operated by a Jew. Why would you want to be on a Jewish board?
You are an ignorant hypocrite and anti-semite. Go away!
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Well Stated Pellius 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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I'm against Israel not Jews, I'm against Jews who are just like you, racist and muslim hater....STOP SUPPORTING THE TERRORISM OF ISRAEL and LET LIVE THE INNOCENT PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN....
When will you get 72 virgins :D
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Weren't the Jews the original inhabitants first way back BC days?
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Weren't the Jews the original inhabitants first way back BC days?
Looks like, legendary 369th Roman Legion was there too :D
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Weren't the Jews the original inhabitants first way back BC days?
The Philistines were a group of "the sea peoples", from what is now Greece, who were ejected from Egypt in 1150 BC. Israel was founded in 900BC.
Essentially, the Israelis and Palestinians have been fighting each other for over 3000 years and both groups were ejected from the Nile region. Egypt controlled the Cannan area of the eastern Mediterranean for most of this early period.
What is now the West bank was part of Israel and the Gaza strip was historically Palestinian going back over 3000 years.
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No one with an ounce of brain and the smallest amount of morals can accept anything of mohammedanism as normal. The works of islam are bloody from its roots till the present day, nothing good comes out of it, ever.
Attacks on civilians as is done in the name of it by hamas on a regular basis is enough for one to see the true narrative of arabs...
Dude your mind is really fucked up..you ignorant uneducated piece of shit!
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The Philistines were a group of "the sea peoples", from what is now Greece, who were ejected from Egypt (Nile cities) in 1150 BC. Israel was founded in 900BC.
Essentially, the Israelis and Palestinians have been fighting each other for over 3000 years and both groups were ejected from the Nile region. Egypt controlled the Cannan area of the eastern Mediterranean for most of this early period.
What is now the West bank was part of Israel and the Gaza strip was historically Palestinian going back over 3000 years.
You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, but I am to blame: I shot a rocket back."
-Noam Chomsky
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Weren't the Jews the original inhabitants first way back BC days?
No that would be wes...
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The Philistines were a group of "the sea peoples", from what is now Greece, who were ejected from Egypt in 1150 BC. Israel was founded in 900BC.
Essentially, the Israelis and Palestinians have been fighting each other for over 3000 years and both groups were ejected from the Nile region. Egypt controlled the Cannan area of the eastern Mediterranean for most of this early period.
What is now the West bank was part of Israel and the Gaza strip was historically Palestinian going back over 3000 years.
BS, no FAKE ARABS before 1967 !.
Why they didn't exist in the Ottoman empire time !?.
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Dude your mind is really fucked up..you ignorant uneducated piece of shit!
Kids of Hamas terrorists leaders never-ever get 72 virgins !.
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BS, no FAKE ARABS before 1967 !.
Why they didn't exist in the Ottoman empire time !?.
Of course they did. The Ottoman empire was a union of many peoples.
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Weren't the Jews the original inhabitants first way back BC days?
No that would be wes...
Legit LOL ;D
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I'm against Israel not Jews, I'm against Jews who are just like you, racist and muslim hater....STOP SUPPORTING THE TERRORISM OF ISRAEL and LET LIVE THE INNOCENT PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS AND CHILDREN....
Watch this, maybe it will change you're fucked up thoughts in a positive matter..
"I against Israel not Jews."
What an ignorant statement and what an ignorant man you are.
And I am not a Jew. I'm an American born, raised, and living in Hawaii.
And stop killing innocent women and children. How about you cowards stop hiding behind women and children and using them as human shields. You do this because you know Israel will tie their own hands behind their back to avoid civilian casualties. Even issuing warnings before an attack whereas you animal target women and children and civilian targets.
I'm not watching another one of your lame videos. I see you have no rebuttal to the one I did watch and refuted. That's because you can't defend such ignorance.
How many Mosques and Jews are allowed to live in Arab countries? How many Palestinians/Arabs live in Israel where there are Mosques and they are allowed to serve the government.
The fighting will stop once the Palestinians, Arabs that even Arab countries don't want, stop attacking Israel. They were the ones that fired rockets at Israel first.
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nonsense
You really make awesome, well thought out arguments, backing them with facts and history.
What a deep thinker you are. I bet you referred to Trump as the Orange man.
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Weren't the Jews the original inhabitants first way back BC days?
Yes.
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You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, but I am to blame: I shot a rocket back."
-Noam Chomsky
Um, that's 4,000 rockets and they gave you the Gaza and the oil-rich Sinai Peninsula. But mostly, they allow you to live and not wipe out your whole cursed race in "Palestine" which they could do in a day. Something you would do if you could. But you can't because you are stupid, uneducated savages that use what little money they have to buy military equipment and not build schools, hospitals, and decent housing and infrastructure. Gaza was a beautiful place and in just a couple of years you turned it into another Arab slum and a Hamas staging ground to launch attacks.
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BS, no FAKE ARABS before 1967 !.
Why they didn't exist in the Ottoman empire time !?.
X2. No movement for an independent Palestinian State before 1967
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Of course they did. The Ottoman empire was a union of many peoples.
The Ottoman emire was more brutal than any other colonial power !.
Inform youself !.
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The Ottoman emire was more brutal than any other colonial power !.
Inform youself !.
I never said they weren't. The Turks were a nomad steppe people like the Mongols adept at horse warfare. They used that strength to create an empire.
The Arabs wanted to be free from Turkish rule.
I thought this was a interesting video about the creation of Israel and Palestine after WW1 and what happened during WW1.
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I never said they weren't. The Turks were a nomad step people like the Mongols adept at horse warfare. They used that strength to create an empire.
The Arabs wanted to be free from Turkish rule.
No STEPS in the Middle East & Southern Europe, learn geography & travel.
Something more technical : Google 'Rimac Nevera' ;)
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"I against Israel not Jews."
What an ignorant statement and what an ignorant man you are.
And I am not a Jew. I'm an American born, raised, and living in Hawaii.
And stop killing innocent women and children. How about you cowards stop hiding behind women and children and using them as human shields. You do this because you know Israel will tie their own hands behind their back to avoid civilian casualties. Even issuing warnings before an attack whereas you animal target women and children and civilian targets.
I'm not watching another one of your lame videos. I see you have no rebuttal to the one I did watch and refuted. That's because you can't defend such ignorance.
How many Mosques and Jews are allowed to live in Arab countries? How many Palestinians/Arabs live in Israel where there are Mosques and they are allowed to serve the government.
The fighting will stop once the Palestinians, Arabs that even Arab countries don't want, stop attacking Israel. They were the ones that fired rockets at Israel first.
You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, but I am to blame: I shot a rocket back."
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The Philistines were a group of "the sea peoples", from what is now Greece, who were ejected from Egypt in 1150 BC. Israel was founded in 900BC.
Essentially, the Israelis and Palestinians have been fighting each other for over 3000 years and both groups were ejected from the Nile region. Egypt controlled the Cannan area of the eastern Mediterranean for most of this early period.
What is now the West bank was part of Israel and the Gaza strip was historically Palestinian going back over 3000 years.
So, The Philistines were essentially Greek folks?
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So, The Philistines were essentially Greek folks?
Yes, they came during the late bronze age collapse. The Trojan war written about by Homer in the Iliad occurred in 1200 BC and Homer wrote about it in 700 BC. There was a dark age that occurred between those periods where many Greeks migrated to Egypt. The Philistines were those people known as "the Sea People". It's unknown what caused the late bronze age collapse.
Alexander the Great kept a copy of the Iliad annotated by Aristotle with him when he went to battle with the Persians and the Iliad is considered the foundation of all Western literature.
The Israelis came from what is now Iraq. The journey of Abraham is well documented in both the Old Testament and by the Hebrew bible.
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You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, but I am to blame: I shot a rocket back."
I'd burn you alive and piss on your corpse if I had the opportunity.
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You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, but I am to blame: I shot a rocket back."
You claim that Israel are the aggressors. That they are the ones that attack Palestine and kill innocent civilians and that you are just defending yourself.
What if Israel decided to unilaterally disarm and disband the military? What would happen then?
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See this jewish lady in the audience get owned by this muslim lady, all she cared about was her sons dog in israel, israeli jews dont care about dead palestinians.
This jewish lady also forgot to say that her son was in the IDF murdeing palestinians and acts as a spy via the red cross pretending to help palestinians and all she cares is about a dog.
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::) IDF soldier & the Red Cross employee @ the same time ???
We love dogs :)
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You claim that Israel are the aggressors. That they are the ones that attack Palestine and kill innocent civilians and that you are just defending yourself.
What if Israel decided to unilaterally disarm and disband the military? What would happen then?
There had been relative calm over there until Israel started evictions again. You kid yourself thinking Israel wants peace or two states. They do this all the time. Provoke Hamas to elicit a response and then they play the victim card.
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Of course they did. The Ottoman empire was a union of many peoples.
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The Ottoman emire was more brutal than any other colonial power !.
Inform youself !.
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The great OTTOMAN EMPIRE...FATIH SULTAN MEHMET..!
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"I against Israel not Jews."
What an ignorant statement and what an ignorant man you are.
And I am not a Jew. I'm an American born, raised, and living in Hawaii.
And stop killing innocent women and children. How about you cowards stop hiding behind women and children and using them as human shields. You do this because you know Israel will tie their own hands behind their back to avoid civilian casualties. Even issuing warnings before an attack whereas you animal target women and children and civilian targets.
I'm not watching another one of your lame videos. I see you have no rebuttal to the one I did watch and refuted. That's because you can't defend such ignorance.
How many Mosques and Jews are allowed to live in Arab countries? How many Palestinians/Arabs live in Israel where there are Mosques and they are allowed to serve the government.
The fighting will stop once the Palestinians, Arabs that even Arab countries don't want, stop attacking Israel. They were the ones that fired rockets at Israel first.
QFT.
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The great OTTOMAN EMPIRE...FATIH SULTAN MEHMET..!
& in 1918 was fucked to the ground ;D
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The great OTTOMAN EMPIRE...FATIH SULTAN MEHMET..!
How great can an empire be when all they are remembered for is a place to put your feet? lol
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The great OTTOMAN EMPIRE...FATIH SULTAN MEHMET..!
The fall of Constantinople was a critical event in history, driving both the Renaissance and the age of discovery.
Whats your opinion of 1001 Arabian nights, the Omayyad Caliphate, the Persian Empire, and the Caliphate of Cordoba?
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How great can an empire be when all they are remembered for is a place to put your feet? lol
They did some solid work with the Armenians.
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The 1962 film 'Lawrence of Arabia' , shows how much Arabs love Turks :D
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The great OTTOMAN EMPIRE...FATIH SULTAN MEHMET..!
This nation ended the reign of terror in Europe by your idols...
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There had been relative calm over there until Israel started evictions again. You kid yourself thinking Israel wants peace or two states. They do this all the time. Provoke Hamas to elicit a response and then they play the victim card.
Is it in the Israeli charter to destroy Palestine? Are their kids taught from birth to murder Muslims?
Israeli police were called in to quell the riot going on at the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Hamas started launching thousands of rocket attacks on the State of Israel. What is Israel supposed to do?
There is a land dispute. Israel wants to exist and Palestinians don't. Muslim's control 99.9% of the the land ass. That still isn't enough. They also want Israel which is about the size of New Jersey. What do you suggest should be done?
Israel doesn't want peace? You know they could eliminate "Palestine" in a day or two but they don't. They want to coexist in peace. Do you think Palestine would not destroy Israel completely if they could?
And Israel playing the victim card? Amazing how you could say this when virtually the majority of the world is against Israel and just the Jewish people in general. No other race/enthicity has been targeted for elimination and extinction all throughout history then the Jews.
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No other race/enthicity has been targeted for elimination and extinction all throughout history then the Jews. White people right now by jews
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Is it in the Israeli charter to destroy Palestine? Are their kids taught from birth to murder Muslims?
Israeli police were called in to quell the riot going on at the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Hamas started launching thousands of rocket attacks on the State of Israel. What is Israel supposed to do?
There is a land dispute. Israel wants to exist and Palestinians don't. Muslim's control 99.9% of the the land ass. That still isn't enough. They also want Israel which is about the size of New Jersey. What do you suggest should be done?
Israel doesn't want peace? You know they could eliminate "Palestine" in a day or two but they don't. They want to coexist in peace. Do you think Palestine would not destroy Israel completely if they could?
And Israel playing the victim card? Amazing how you could say this when virtually the majority of the world is against Israel and just the Jewish people in general. No other race/enthicity has been targeted for elimination and extinction all throughout history then the Jews.
Your talents are wasted on here. ::)
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How great can an empire be when all they are remembered for is a place to put your feet? lol
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