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I had heard it was coming to Mexico via China - I guess that is confirmed now:
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Its not a problem until Hunter gets his hands on something laced with fentanyl.
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Drug addicts are pathetic.
Fuck ‘em.
“President Biden”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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And this is the stuff that's deadly to even inhale, right..?
Sheesh...
Kind of linked to this I suppose, but a buddy sent me a link to a website the other day that was claiming to sell some absolutely outlandish shit like fentanyl, carfentanyl, hydromorphone, Oxycontin, injectable ketamine - you name it and it was on there :o
I was a bit blown away by how open it all was, but a quick Google seemed to reveal that they were trading out of an armoured Police Depot in Northern Ireland(!) So either it's the most brass-necked operation to sell captured gear ever, or a really poorly disguised sting operation ;D
Pretty sure I'll get spanked by OMR if I post a link on the open board or I'd show you what I'm talking about
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No that I was into it but I guess gone are the good old days when you got coke,molly, and excstay you were actually getting that and if you OD' you had yourself to blame
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Forgive the bump, but I didn't think this warranted a new thread
"Rapper Coolio Died From An Accidental Overdose Of Fentanyl And Other Drugs, The Coroner's Office Said
Coolio, whose legal name was Artis Leon Ivey Jr., collapsed at a friend's house in Los Angeles and was pronounced dead at the scene on Sept. 28, 2022. The Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner has ruled that his death was caused by the "effects of fentanyl, heroin, and methamphetamine," according to the office's website.
The office's report also listed cardiomyopathy, asthma, and recent use of phencyclidine, or PCP, as other significant conditions. Officials ruled that the 59-year-old rapper's death was an accident"
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/rapper-coolio-fentanyl-cause-of-death
(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/rapper-coolio-fentanyl-cause-of-death)
An accident? FFS
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This is what they give you now during a general surgery in Australia. It’s nasty!!!
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This is what they give you now during a general surgery in Australia. It’s nasty!!!
Fentanyl? Really? We use morphine or hydromorphone here.
Why Fentanyl? Do you suppose that's because it's cheaper?
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Fentanyl? Really? We use morphine or hydromorphone here.
Why Fentanyl? Do you suppose that's because it's cheaper?
i've heard carfentanyl is 1000 times stronger. one kg could OD 1000000 people
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This is what they give you now during a general surgery in Australia. It’s nasty!!!
They do that here as well
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Now if 200+ million people in the US gets wiped out by this it’s a success
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You don't have to feel empathy for addicts. But it doesn't concern you China is flooding the country with fent? People that aren't even junkies are dying. Joe Blow who drinks at the local bar and does a line of coke every once in awhile is dying because it's the coke is spiked. Some teenager is given a pill that supposed to be a harmless vicoden is getting a pill that's 100% fent and dying.
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You don't have to feel empathy for addicts. But it doesn't concern you China is flooding the country with fent? People that aren't even junkies are dying. Joe Blow who drinks at the local bar and does a line of coke every once in awhile is dying because it's the coke is spiked. Some teenager is given a pill that supposed to be a harmless vicoden is getting a pill that's 100% fent and dying.
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There's some delusional assholes on here who see fentanyl as a means of demonizing drug use and doubt its toxicity.
Whatever... have at it. Unless they start putting it in gear I don't give a shit.
Ive already lost a few of my best buds to fentanyl.
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Fentanyl? Really? We use morphine or hydromorphone here.
Why Fentanyl? Do you suppose that's because it's cheaper?
easier to smuggle
Super concentrated
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You will never end the drug problem by going after the supply side. As long as people want to get high they will find a way.
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once the world goes to digital currency and ends the use of cash the drug problems will go away
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once the world goes to digital currency and ends the use of cash the drug problems will go away
They'll huff glue or paint.
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Fentanyl? Really? We use morphine or hydromorphone here.
Why Fentanyl? Do you suppose that's because it's cheaper?
I have no idea why Matt. All I know is that I had general surgery in jan and they used it and I absolutely hate it. I have only ever had morphine during surgery but now apparently they are using fentanyl. It makes you extremely high and has a short duration of pain relief. They told me fentanyl doesn’t give long pain relief so they gave me an endone as well. I was as high as a kite. No wonder people are getting addicted to opiates.
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Its not a problem until Hunter gets his hands on something laced with fentanyl.
That will be a great day when he dies from something like this. Then Biden can suck a fat dick.
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That will be a great day when he dies from something like this. Then Biden can suck a fat dick.
Yup. This is what Democrats knowingly voted for along with Pedophilia and the mutilation of children. I remind them of it daily and they deserve to be shunned. Would that we could deport them to the middle of the Pacific Ocean and leave them there.
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Forgive the bump, but I didn't think this warranted a new thread
"Rapper Coolio Died From An Accidental Overdose Of Fentanyl And Other Drugs, The Coroner's Office Said
Coolio, whose legal name was Artis Leon Ivey Jr., collapsed at a friend's house in Los Angeles and was pronounced dead at the scene on Sept. 28, 2022. The Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner has ruled that his death was caused by the "effects of fentanyl, heroin, and methamphetamine," according to the office's website.
The office's report also listed cardiomyopathy, asthma, and recent use of phencyclidine, or PCP, as other significant conditions. Officials ruled that the 59-year-old rapper's death was an accident"
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/rapper-coolio-fentanyl-cause-of-death
(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/rapper-coolio-fentanyl-cause-of-death)
An accident? FFS
Ha Ha Ha Fucking accident - He took a shotgun full of drugs & killed himself .
One less ;D
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There will always be plenty of drugs available for whoever wants then simple supply and demand nothing has changed we used to blame China for Opium then we invaded when they banned it to keep the trade going nothing has changed
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There will always be plenty of drugs available for whoever wants then simple supply and demand nothing has changed we used to blame China for Opium then we invaded when they banned it to keep the trade going nothing has changed
Truth.
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Fentanyl? Really? We use morphine or hydromorphone here.
Why Fentanyl? Do you suppose that's because it's cheaper?
Fentanyl is the opioid of choice in most medical situations as it doesn’t stimulate histamine release in the way that morphine does. Histamine is a potent vasodilator, and as such will drop one’s blood pressure. For patients who are undergoing surgery or are otherwise critically ill, their body may not be able to compensate for the vasodilation and their blood pressure may drop to unsafe levels. Fentanyl doesn’t have this issue.
Additionally, some of the metabolites of morphine are toxic and can accumulate in individuals with reduced renal capacity. Fentanyl does not have this issue either.
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There will always be plenty of drugs available for whoever wants then simple supply and demand nothing has changed we used to blame China for Opium then we invaded when they banned it to keep the trade going nothing has changed
Good point. The opioid crisis was blamed on doctors overprescribing narcotics. Well, opioid prescriptions are down by over HALF from a decade ago, and yet overdoses increase year after year.
People are turning to drugs because their material conditions are worsening. They have less money to spend and their money doesn’t go as far as it used to. It’s far easier to blame this crisis on physicians or drug smugglers, so that’s why they push that angle.
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There will always be plenty of drugs available for whoever wants then simple supply and demand nothing has changed we used to blame China for Opium then we invaded when they banned it to keep the trade going nothing has changed
Absolutely agree - and there are unintended consequences to pushing things further underground. In the UK we've had large increases in deaths due to whatever the fuck synthetic cannabis is - junkies, prisoners and homeless people smoking things called Spice and Mamba, then shuffling into darkness
And it can only be a matter of time before this mixing of fentanyl with pill and coke, etc. will reach over here and start dropping party-goers and the middle-classes - then we might hear some noise about it
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Fentanyl abuse is still nothing compared to alcohol abuse but no one talks about that as a crisis
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Fentanyl abuse is still nothing compared to alcohol abuse but no one talks about that as a crisis
Ego-driven Stoooopid is a crisis but even though we talk about it, you don't do shit about yours.
FYYFF
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Ego-driven Stoooopid is a crisis but even though we talk about it, you don't do shit about yours.
FYYFF
There are more annual deaths from alcohol than every other illicit drug combined
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There are more annual deaths from alcohol than every other illicit drug combined
Is it "bio-identical" alcohol? I do not drink alcoholic beverages nor do I take illegal drugs, "bio-identical" or not. It is difficult to write that term as it makes me laugh.
You are such a buffoon. One can hope you grow up but no, you will just grow stranger.
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Fentanyl abuse is still nothing compared to alcohol abuse but no one talks about that as a crisis
QFT. Turns out the “health benefits” of moderate drinking were likely overstated and may not even exist at all.
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Is it a problem or a solution? Seems to be wiping out the junkies which is lovely
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Someone explain why fentanyl is in coke? I don't want a guess, I'd like for someone who knows explain it to me.
Someone even claimed it was in weed lol.
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It is in coke because people want it in coke they ask the dealers for it it is not in weed lol
Again alcohol and tobacco are the bigger health risk killing more people and costing more health care to the nation but not as cool sounding in the headlines
Historical addiction rates haven’t changed in hundreds of years
We used to give children alcohol for breakfast for fuck sake they have records of the historical alcohol consumption and it is astronomical
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Good point. The opioid crisis was blamed on doctors overprescribing narcotics. Well, opioid prescriptions are down by over HALF from a decade ago, and yet overdoses increase year after year.
People are turning to drugs because their material conditions are worsening. They have less money to spend and their money doesn’t go as far as it used to. It’s far easier to blame this crisis on physicians or drug smugglers, so that’s why they push that angle.
Some truth here. As someone who is at the point of contact with these overdoses, my observations are as follows.
Druggies will get high no matter what. There is no real increase in the numbers of these people. When they had access to pills, ODs were rare. They knew the strength of what they were taking and the highs were repeatable and predictable.
Take away the pills, and the once dwindling heroin trade blossoms. Heroin dealers are the ones that love fentanyl. It costs much less than pure heroin and makes a fantastic cutting agent to increase profit. The problem is there is no control of potency. So each mix is different. Now when said addict picks up his latest score, he has no idea what the strength of the product is until he shoots up. So a 1/4ml did him right last week, this week it is deadly.
Take away the heroin they will find something else. Period. It cannot be stopped. They will be back to huffing gold and silver spray paint if nothing else is available.
There is nothing inherently wrong with medical fentanyl. Now people with true pain to treat such as cancer and real debilitating orthopedic issues can not get the treatment they need. Recently Senators Manchin and some R I cannot recall wrote an article which claimed “opioid prescribing is up 4 times since 2009”. Total opposite is true. Blatant lies or completely stupidity by our leaders. No one called their bullshit and Fox News published the article. This is like 80s Soviet propaganda.
The “fix” is worse than the original problem. Such is government response.
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Instead of trying to stop Fentanyl, they should just make it stronger. Like 10X stronger. Hitting the supply side isn't going to make a difference. Hit the side that is creating a demand and see how fast it drops. People will die. I don't give a fuck. When people get to a point where it sets in their mind that they have a 80% chance of dying on the spot from ingesting something that may (or may not - take a chance and find out) be mixed with super doses of fentanyl, they will either accept their deaths or they will go seek treatment for their addictions. Addiction centers now are full of people that don't want to be there. They are there because of family/legal reasons. Free space up for people that choose to live over playing roulette with each dose of drugs they take. Columbia and China can send all the drugs they want, but it don't mean shit if people are scared to buy them.
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Instead of trying to stop Fentanyl, they should just make it stronger. Like 10X stronger. Hitting the supply side isn't going to make a difference. Hit the side that is creating a demand and see how fast it drops. People will die. I don't give a fuck. When people get to a point where it sets in their mind that they have a 80% chance of dying on the spot from ingesting something that may (or may not - take a chance and find out) be mixed with super doses of fentanyl, they will either accept their deaths or they will go seek treatment for their addictions. Addiction centers now are full of people that don't want to be there. They are there because of family/legal reasons. Free space up for people that choose to live over playing roulette with each dose of drugs they take. Columbia and China can send all the drugs they want, but it don't mean shit if people are scared to buy them.
Translation: Democrats vote even when dead, so no real loss to your Pedo-Party.
You fucking Pedo-Pal. You support the mutilation of our children, physically, mentally and spiritually. FYYFF.
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Someone explain why fentanyl is in coke? I don't want a guess, I'd like for someone who knows explain it to me.
Someone even claimed it was in weed lol.
Fentanyl is cheap compared to other drugs. And a minute quantity will get you high as a kite.
Dealers cut their product with Fentanyl to make the most of their supply.
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Instead of trying to stop Fentanyl, they should just make it stronger. Like 10X stronger. Hitting the supply side isn't going to make a difference. Hit the side that is creating a demand and see how fast it drops. People will die. I don't give a fuck. When people get to a point where it sets in their mind that they have a 80% chance of dying on the spot from ingesting something that may (or may not - take a chance and find out) be mixed with super doses of fentanyl, they will either accept their deaths or they will go seek treatment for their addictions. Addiction centers now are full of people that don't want to be there. They are there because of family/legal reasons. Free space up for people that choose to live over playing roulette with each dose of drugs they take. Columbia and China can send all the drugs they want, but it don't mean shit if people are scared to buy them.
I like this idea.
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Translation: Democrats vote even when dead, so no real loss to your Pedo-Party.
You fucking Pedo-Pal. You support the mutilation of our children, physically, mentally and spiritually. FYYFF.
Awww... diabetic cripple just can't stop melting down every single day that he wakes up and can't participate in life like everyone else.
I would tell you to FOAD but you can't even do that right. Plus, I really wouldn't want it. I prefer you to struggle every single day with basic chores and crushing depression. Because you are special like that. God says so.
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Translation: Democrats vote even when dead, so no real loss to your Pedo-Party.
You fucking Pedo-Pal. You support the mutilation of our children, physically, mentally and spiritually. FYYFF.
Hahaha, democrats vote even when dead. That’s good shit.
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Awww... diabetic cripple just can't stop melting down every single day that he wakes up and can't participate in life like everyone else.
I would tell you to FOAD but you can't even do that right. Plus, I really wouldn't want it. I prefer you to struggle every single day with basic chores and crushing depression. Because you are special like that. God says so.
Pedophile and child mutilatition supporter. FYFF. You deserve Hell you filthy fuquewad. You support the mutilation and sexploitation of the innocent you scumbag Democrat.
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I like this idea.
It's rather simple. Dope heads drop dead. No big loss. What are they contributing anyway to society? Crime? Draining resources from the states? Remember how fast people stopped buying Tylenol many years ago when someone was putting cyandie in it? Same thing here. (sort of). If you want to use drugs bad enough to die for them, then you should be able to. And then die.
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Pedophile and child mutilatition support. FYFF. You deserve Hell you filthy fuquewad. You support the mutilation and sexploitation of the innocent you scumbag Democrat.
Your self loathing and frustration is showing again. And it's only 11am. Lonnngggg time to go before you are given your evening Metamucil and tucked into bed at 8PM. Pace yourself. Make sure to take breaks at times. Someone else at the assisted living home may want to use the community PC.
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Lace it with rat poison
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Lace it with rat poison
Growing up, there was a lady in our county that mixed rat poison and lemonade to kill herself with. Our neighbor was a sheriff deputy and he was the one to be called to the seen first. He said that from appearances it seemed to have been an extremely painful way to go. Not a pleasant way like ODing on sleeping pills or something. But violently painful. She had painted most of the small house with vomit and left a mess of broken crap behind from her writhing and convulsions.
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It's rather simple. Dope heads drop dead. No big loss. What are they contributing anyway to society? Crime? Draining resources from the states? Remember how fast people stopped buying Tylenol many years ago when someone was putting cyandie in it? Same thing here. (sort of). If you want to use drugs bad enough to die for them, then you should be able to. And then die.
Agreed.
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It's rather simple. Dope heads drop dead. No big loss. What are they contributing anyway to society? Crime? Draining resources from the states? Remember how fast people stopped buying Tylenol many years ago when someone was putting cyandie in it? Same thing here. (sort of). If you want to use drugs bad enough to die for them, then you should be able to. And then die.
Well, what's your definition of a dope head?
A crack fiend? Ok sure.
A heroin junkie? Ok.
A teenager who picks up molly for a party? Maybe someone's son or daughter.
A professional who does a few lines of coke once every blue moon? Maybe someone's wife or mother?
Because all these people would be affected.
You say the user is the problem but not the dealer who's knowingly selling hot shots?
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It's rather simple. Dope heads drop dead. No big loss. What are they contributing anyway to society? Crime? Draining resources from the states? Remember how fast people stopped buying Tylenol many years ago when someone was putting cyandie in it? Same thing here. (sort of). If you want to use drugs bad enough to die for them, then you should be able to. And then die.
Grow up, everyone's who's ever had a white collared career has done cocaine.
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Grow up, everyone's who's ever had a white collared career has done cocaine.
No.
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And this is the stuff that's deadly to even inhale, right..?
Sheesh...
Kind of linked to this I suppose, but a buddy sent me a link to a website the other day that was claiming to sell some absolutely outlandish shit like fentanyl, carfentanyl, hydromorphone, Oxycontin, injectable ketamine - you name it and it was on there :o
I was a bit blown away by how open it all was, but a quick Google seemed to reveal that they were trading out of an armoured Police Depot in Northern Ireland(!) So either it's the most brass-necked operation to sell captured gear ever, or a really poorly disguised sting operation ;D
Pretty sure I'll get spanked by OMR if I post a link on the open board or I'd show you what I'm talking about
Ireland is probably the easiest place to get drugs in Europe. Has some of the most dangerous gangs internationally. Lots of contacts. Love to pay traveler and gypsy gangs to burn houses and machete people or just whack over debts.
But sometimes personal insults and disrespect never go unanswered in this world
God forbid Griffith and howoaks identities end up being revealed here
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Ireland is probably the easiest place to get drugs in Europe. Has some of the most dangerous gangs internationally. Lots of contacts. Love to pay traveler and gypsy gangs to burn houses and machete people or just whack over debts.
But sometimes personal insults and disrespect never go unanswered in this world
God forbid Griffith and howoaks identities end up being revealed here
I don't understand why you don't fly over here and we tour America collecting debts
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Grow up, everyone's who's ever had a white collared career has done cocaine.
Nope, never cared for it, or weed, or pills, etc
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Grow up, everyone's who's ever had a white collared career has done cocaine.
I never have. Other than trying pot in high school I have never done anything else. I live in S FL and have never done X. Neither have any of my friends.
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Well, what's your definition of a dope head?
A crack fiend? Ok sure.
A heroin junkie? Ok.
A teenager who picks up molly for a party? Maybe someone's son or daughter.
A professional who does a few lines of coke once every blue moon? Maybe someone's wife or mother?
Because all these people would be affected.
You say the user is the problem but not the dealer who's knowingly selling hot shots?
1. Yes all of those. Drugs are bad. Don’t do drugs. Problem solved.
2. The dealers may not know what their products are cut with.
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Ireland is probably the easiest place to get drugs in Europe. Has some of the most dangerous gangs internationally. Lots of contacts. Love to pay traveler and gypsy gangs to burn houses and machete people or just whack over debts.
But sometimes personal insults and disrespect never go unanswered in this world
God forbid Griffith and howoaks identities end up being revealed here
come to Celle
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come to Celle
youre not Donny so cut the shit with the fake location
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Legalization and regulation is the way to prevent overdoses and deaths but that doesn’t really seem to be anyone’s goal
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The cost to incarcerate people and then release them as drug addicted criminals back into society is much higher than the cost to send them to rehab
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I don't understand why you don't fly over here and we tour America collecting debts
is that what you where doing when you let another man give you a blow job ? ???
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is that what you where doing when you let another man give you a blow job ? ???
haha no i was up to other shenanigans in those days :D
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Grow up, everyone's who's ever had a white collared career has done cocaine.
only ever did it once
Got it free at a new years eve all nighter
I was already on Es
Had a snort, made me feel like shit, hyper aware and paranoid.
Apprently £20 worth, lasted about 10 minutes
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i don't do cocaine i just love the way it smells!!
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i don't do cocaine i just love the way it smells!!
And tastes on the gums.
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For those of you on here that have done drugs... which ones have you done that you never will again. Why?
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For those of you on here that have done drugs... which ones have you done that you never will again. Why?
Tried coke prob 5 times, hated it as all it did was make me drink more and I drank enough without it. Only did it cause the hot chicks I was with did it so it was a good way to bang them. Very stupid drug in my opinion and wouldn’t touch it ever again.
Tried an oc20 one time and puked for a day or two,hate pain killers and haven’t taken any since then 23 years ago. Have tried perks,Vicodin etc… don’t like them at all.
I like taking a couple puffs off a joint once a month
I like very low dose edibles for a good nights sleep and to laugh.
Never tried heroin,crack,acid,shrooms,ecstasy, or really anything else and never would. Have had a couple buddies die from heroin.
Used to drink like a fish and don’t really do that anymore either.
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Grow up, everyone's who's ever had a white collared career has done cocaine.
I'm not sure you understand what white collar means.
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1. Fentanyl is a legit drug used in medical environments and administered extremely carefully.
2. Fortress has never been drunk (essentially, I don’t drink, and I never have), used rec drugs, even pot, and I have never been remotely tempted.
3. I witness and deal almost daily with folks withdrawing, overdosing and committing horrible acts while on drugs.
4. My compassion for addicts, and those who choose to use rec drugs for, well, recreation, is zero. If you croak, that’s your deal. And even if you’re a college kid and catch dead because your party “treat” is cut, unknowingly, with something like Fentanyl, that’s on you.
5. Drug addicts can die as frequently as Odin grants. Weakness.
6. There should be zero tolerance for those who peddle rec drugs. At the very least, immediate life sentence. Me, I’d waste ‘em.
Your life is your own. If you choose to do shit you KNOW is potentially, or very potentially, lethal (or merely addictive), it’s 100 percent on YOU.
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Fent is a problem for those stupid enough to use it.
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Fent is a problem for those stupid enough to use it.
yup
I have no sympathy for drug users,...its not a tough equation--dont do drugs you wont die
I understand its tough for those who were medically prescribed to kick it, but if a person just does drugs to try them or fit in or whatever, then fuck em, die, world is better off without those morons
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1. Fentanyl is a legit drug used in medical environments and administered extremely carefully.
2. Fortress has never been drunk (essentially, I don’t drink, and I never have), used rec drugs, even pot, and I have never been remotely tempted.
3. I witness and deal almost daily with folks withdrawing, overdosing and committing horrible acts while on drugs.
4. My compassion for addicts, and those who choose to use rec drugs for, well, recreation, is zero. If you croak, that’s your deal. And even if you’re a college kid and catch dead because your party “treat” is cut, unknowingly, with something like Fentanyl, that’s on you.
5. Drug addicts can die as frequently as Odin grants. Weakness.
6. There should be zero tolerance for those who peddle rec drugs. At the very least, immediate life sentence. Me, I’d waste ‘em.
Your life is your own. If you choose to do shit you KNOW is potentially, or very potentially, lethal (or merely addictive), it’s 100 percent on YOU.
Impressive fortress. Also I agree. I have a couple guys I know that have never drank and I’m amazed how someone can grow up and not drink, impressed but also amazed.
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I'm not sure you understand what white collar means.
I’ve worked at 1 chase plaza and the world financial center.. I have a decent idea
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Impressive fortress. Also I agree. I have a couple guys I know that have never drank and I’m amazed how someone can grow up and not drink, impressed but also amazed.
I’m not on some soapbox, brother. Believe me. But growing up, I was just never interested. I discovered weight training at 15. As well, I was HEAVILY into music. To me, I could spend my (limited) money on booze, etc., or I could grip some records and buy a burger. Simple choice. Also, every male in my family turns into a raging asshole when he drinks. Every time I’ve been with my brother, 10 years my senior, when he’s drinking, we’ve gotten into fisticuffs.
Then, working bouncing/doors for YEARS, I observed just how lame, embarrassing and stupid folks are under the influence.
Booze and rec drugs RUIN your brain. Period. No question. And your physical health, obviously.
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For those of you on here that have done drugs... which ones have you done that you never will again. Why?
Drugs are really fun. The party ones are amazing and none are habit forming.
Coke
Ket
Molly/xtc
Acid
Mushrooms
Molly for example wakes up all of your nerves, that’s why people get cuddly and rub up against furry things.. just imagine how it feels being at home with all your never endings getting your dick sucked by your gal
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I said no to alcohol and drugs....
but they won't listen!!
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I said no to alcohol and drugs....
but they won't listen!!
I read a book once on the Dangers of Alcohol & Drugs - it frightened the Crap out of Me.
I said there & then that's it I'm never Reading another Fooking Book again.
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For those of you on here that have done drugs... which ones have you done that you never will again. Why?
Good question
I hope Brother Fortress can forgive my past transgressions, but I have sinned many times here. About the only things I can think of that I never tried were
- Injecting heroin
- Crack
- Fentanyl (because it wasn't a thing in the '90s)
Loved everything else. There - I said it.
Witnessing the birth of my first child meant I dropped everything apart from the occasional shot of rum many years ago. And yes, I'd have probably been dead by now if it weren't for that, but God Bless Lifting
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Fentanyl is cheap compared to other drugs. And a minute quantity will get you high as a kite.
Dealers cut their product with Fentanyl to make the most of their supply.
I can't see how this would be the case. You take coke to get coke effects, if the "coke" makes you nod out would that be acceptable to most customers? Totally different drugs. If people want opioids they will buy opioids, not coke. Right?
So this intentional cutting of stims with downers makes no sense to me. I was thinking maybe someone was bagging coke someplace where they were handling fentanyl and the coke got accidentally contaminated. Could that be the case?
Making counterfeit Oxy with fent or cutting heroin with fent, now that makes more sense.
This thing hasn't been explained to my satisfaction :D
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I’ve worked at 1 chase plaza and the world financial center.. I have a decent idea
55 percent of all workers are white collar workers. You're saying 55 percent of the working population has done cocaine?
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It is in coke because people want it in coke they ask the dealers for it it is not in weed lol
Again alcohol and tobacco are the bigger health risk killing more people and costing more health care to the nation but not as cool sounding in the headlines
Historical addiction rates haven’t changed in hundreds of years
We used to give children alcohol for breakfast for fuck sake they have records of the historical alcohol consumption and it is astronomical
You don't have a clue as usual. People buying coke don't want fent in it. They will die. They're not opiate addicts who have a tolerance and can handle fent
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I never have. Other than trying pot in high school I have never done anything else. I live in S FL and have never done X. Neither have any of my friends.
Yeah you're all dorks. Shocker
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Yeah you're all dorks. Shocker
Im your biggest fan on here, no doubt, you are hall of fame
but not doing drugs makes a person a dork? Wow thats weak
I have never done drugs other than trying a couple puffs of weed. So Im a dork? Nope
Lurker is fucking awesome (not politically) for staying away from drugs.
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Im your biggest fan on here, no doubt, you are hall of fame
but not doing drugs makes a person a dork? Wow thats weak
I have never done drugs other than trying a couple puffs of weed. So Im a dork? Nope
Lurker is fucking awesome (not politically) for staying away from drugs.
I absolutely am blown away by anyone who's gone through life straight edge.. it's very impressive that they overcame peer pressure, curiosity, etc. Most group of friends have that one guy who's never touched anything. No you're not a dork for not doing drugs. But Lurker and his friends are a bunch of dorks based on what I know of him from his posts.
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I absolutely am blown away by anyone who's gone through life straight edge.. it's very impressive that they overcame peer pressure, curiosity, etc. Most group of friends have that one guy who's never touched anything. No you're not a dork for not doing drugs. But Lurker and his friends are a bunch of dorks based on what I know of him from his posts.
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this is fair and correct
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For those of you on here that have done drugs... which ones have you done that you never will again. Why?
I just didn't enjoy amphetamines. Coke, crack, and meth. I only tried them once to see what's what so I don't have extensive experience, but I was disappointed. I just didn't feel sleepy. That's it. Other people who took the same amount from the same batch insisted it was great so the drugs weren't bunk. Amphetamines just don't work for me the way they do for others. I think my experience is rare.
I enjoyed lsd and mushrooms but they made me heavily introspective. I wouldn't say they're fun but they're rewarding. Again, I was an oddball. Everyone else was social and stayed together but I had to be alone. Probably wouldn't take again because they're hard work.
I smoked a lot of weed and it was ok but after a few years my reaction to it changed and it gave me paranoia and panic. It just wasn't fun anymore, either alone or with others.
I think the war on drugs is yet another tax and profit scheme and I'm amazed the Right Wing got so sold on it since it's incompatible with their principles of liberty, free market trade, and small government. They have to retreat to a Left Wing position of good of society/ we're all in it together in order to defend it. If you don't want to use drugs then don't use them. I'd also accept a community type argument from them, like a town, county, or state that evolves to have its laws reflect its values, but they never give you that. Instead you get the "hurts society therefore my brand of tyranny" argument. I'm like... isn't that the same case the guy who wants your rifle just made, ya doofus redhat? ::)
First, what's a society and how do you quantify harm to it? Second, tons of shit hurts it. Fat people. Stupid people. People who won't be nurses when there aren't enough nurses. Shall we criminalize doughnuts, institute government run eugenics, compel labor, and do the Brave New World thing? "It harms society" is not a reason to bring the government into people's lives.
I never harmed society. I never mugged a grandma. I didn't have addiction problems. The problem isn't the drugs. It's the people. Stanhope nailed it. The only people who think drugs should be illegal are people who never used drugs or people who sucked at using drugs.
A market can't be legislated. Even Diocletian couldn't swing it for a single week and he was an emperor. Prohibition is a lost cause which funds criminals, half of which are in the government.
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TLDR legalize so I don't have to see conservatives use liberal logic.
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I can't see how this would be the case. You take coke to get coke effects, if the "coke" makes you nod out would that be acceptable to most customers? Totally different drugs. If people want opioids they will buy opioids, not coke. Right?
So this intentional cutting of stims with downers makes no sense to me. I was thinking maybe someone was bagging coke someplace where they were handling fentanyl and the coke got accidentally contaminated. Could that be the case?
Making counterfeit Oxy with fent or cutting heroin with fent, now that makes more sense.
This thing hasn't been explained to my satisfaction :D
The newest theory from our DEA is that fent is being added to cocaine cuts because it has higher addictive qualities than straight cocaine. But coke is a more recreational drug vs heroin, so the users don't have the tolerances that heroin addicts, etc... build up, so a lot of them are getting caught out there.
This supplants earlier theories that users were perhaps speed balling, and getting straight fent mixed with cut, or that dealers just had bad drug mixing procedures.
P.S. Coke cut with fent is still a small problem here compared to fake/cut downers or heroin, about 4-5% of cocaine samples were coming up adulterated a year or two ago.
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The newest theory from our DEA is that fent is being added to cocaine cuts because it has higher addictive qualities than straight cocaine. But coke is a more recreational drug vs heroin, so the users don't have the tolerances that heroin addicts, etc... build up, so a lot of them are getting caught out there.
This supplants earlier theories that users were perhaps speed balling, and getting straight fent mixed with cut, or that dealers just had bad drug mixing procedures.
There was a 2019 movie called "Running With the Devil" starring Nicholas Cage and Lawrence Fishburne that covered this topic.
I thought this Fentanyl mixture was just something happening in my neck of the woods...but no. It's North American-wide.
The Chinese are selling masses of Fentanyl very cheaply to Mexico, which then gets imported into the USA.
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There was a 2019 movie called "Running With the Devil" starring Nicholas Cage and Lawrence Fishburne that covered this topic.
I thought this Fentanyl mixture was just something happening in my neck of the woods...but no. It's North American-wide.
The Chinese are selling masses of Fentanyl very cheaply to Mexico, which then gets imported into the USA.
You sure it wasn't Samuel L Jackson?
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The newest theory from our DEA is that fent is being added to cocaine cuts because it has higher addictive qualities than straight cocaine. But coke is a more recreational drug vs heroin, so the users don't have the tolerances that heroin addicts, etc... build up, so a lot of them are getting caught out there.
This supplants earlier theories that users were perhaps speed balling, and getting straight fent mixed with cut, or that dealers just had bad drug mixing procedures.
P.S. Coke cut with fent is still a small problem here compared to fake/cut downers or heroin, about 4-5% of cocaine samples were coming up adulterated a year or two ago.
Thanks, so there are theories, they aren't sure what's going on.
If 4-5% of street coke has fent in it that's crazy.
There's another big problem with the intentional adulteration of coke to create more addicts. Serms to me it would completely IMPOSSIBLE to cut coke with fent and get the dosage right. Think about it, a proper dose of fent, even if you are an opiate addict, is basically so little you can't even see it. How in the hell would you properly cut the coke outside of some NASA level lab lol.
I'm sure I could learn more by googling but I'm too lazy. But I'm just surprised almost no one questions it, how it would be done in practice etc.
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You sure it wasn't Samuel L Jackson?
Is was Samuel L Washington I believe.
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this is fair and correct
He's just upset that he was never invited back to D&D night after making his barbarian wear a dress the entire first night.
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Is was Samuel L Washington I believe.
Loved him in Jerry McGuire 8)
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He's just upset that he was never invited back to D&D night after making his barbarian wear a dress the entire first night.
Parsh
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I read a book once on the Dangers of Alcohol & Drugs - it frightened the Crap out of Me.
I said there & then that's it I'm never Reading another Fooking Book again.
haha that's great!!
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agreed. why put a downer in with uppers.
coke is usually spiked (as opposed to cut) with meth as its cheaper per effect and more addictive; which dealers always want.
apparently you can replicate the effect of an 80mg oxycontin pill with a few grains of fentanyl. most half decent sized dealers have binding agents and pill compress machines. so for pennies cost they can make a benign talc powder and mix in a couple grains of fentanyl and save the $10-20 dealer cost of the oxy. its fine until the guy with serious oxy attenuation takes 5 of these fakes and has not attenuated to fentanyl and overdoses immediately.
i've heard they also mix it with ecstasy not sure why.
allegedly
Watch the Nicolas Cage movie "Running With the Devil".
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Absolutely agree - and there are unintended consequences to pushing things further underground. In the UK we've had large increases in deaths due to whatever the fuck synthetic cannabis is - junkies, prisoners and homeless people smoking things called Spice and Mamba, then shuffling into darkness
And it can only be a matter of time before this mixing of fentanyl with pill and coke, etc. will reach over here and start dropping party-goers and the middle-classes - then we might hear some noise about it
I feel like I posted this in another thread somewhere? So apologies if I'm repeating myself here
But in one of those weird coincidences in life, on Saturday I happened to bump into someone who a) clearly seemed to know what he was talking about, and b) drove some sort of Bentley. So you can draw your own conclusions ;) And he was quick to point out to me that I've been out of the loop far too long. Apparently, fentanyl has been 'on the UK menu' for some time now - either the black market powder form, or as stolen lollipops...
[Edit: and not because of any shortage of heroin or other pills, he said some people ask for it specifically and there was plenty 'about']
So we'll watch this space....
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You don't have a clue as usual. People buying coke don't want fent in it. They will die. They're not opiate addicts who have a tolerance and can handle fent
Dealers would not put fent in coke if it was not requested why do people mix opiates and cocaine it’s called a speed balk and people have been doing it for decades
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Dealers would not put fent in coke if it was not requested why do people mix opiates and cocaine it’s called a speed balk and people have been doing it for decades
It seems like they are wasting a high from either drug. Coke revs you up (people say) so why take a downer with it?
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Lace it with rat poison
Yep - only some would like it & no doubt get addicted to it .
It strongly appears that humans we love drugs be it Coffee, alcohol, cigarettes, weed, cocaine, heroin ,
Etc etc , the seeds of self destruction are clearly in many.
Take all the drugs you want , just don't complain when you fuck yourself up.
My issue is all the behaviour side affects that impact on others.
Maybe make these drugs much more potent so it takes then out & they can meet their maker.
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https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2023/apr/07/bronze-age-people-hallucinogenic-drugs-menorca-study
Again this is nothing new
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There will always be plenty of drugs available for whoever wants then simple supply and demand nothing has changed we used to blame China for Opium then we invaded when they banned it to keep the trade going nothing has changed
Hanky kicking the worldwide historical knowledge to his audience. This is why your fan club is internationale.
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yup
I have no sympathy for drug users,...its not a tough equation--dont do drugs you wont die
I understand its tough for those who were medically prescribed to kick it, but if a person just does drugs to try them or fit in or whatever, then fuck em, die, world is better off without those morons
you're on a board dedicated to taking bathtub test.. telling people not to do drugs?
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Amazing. This thread reached 5 pages without ESF in here telling us how he shot up a half gallon of this stuff one night at urinal and woke up with dead cartel hookers in his bed.
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55 percent of all workers are white collar workers. You're saying 55 percent of the working population has done cocaine?
i dont know how many people go through the hundreds of tons of cocaine smuggled into america every year.
Maybe you're right, 55 seems like a lot. But in every field i've ever worked in finance, tech and fintech, at every level starting at 1st year analyst all the way up to c-suite, everyone's got coke, every back office worker does coke.
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It seems like they are wasting a high from either drug. Coke revs you up (people say) so why take a downer with it?
Nah I don't think it works quite like that, they can compliment each other very nicely. For one, you're getting even more dopamine. IBut I think bhank is right, fent wouldn't intentionally be put in coke if not requested. Even then, I don't know how it would be done, seems pretty much impossible to me.
You could do a semi legal speedball by mixing a stimulant, like dmaa, with kratom and/or phenibut. I used Vyvance for the stim so it isn't legal. Phenibut with a stim is very nice, any anxiety from the stim goes away, and stim euphoria increases. And you get more and more dopamine with these combos.
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This guy, who is one of the world experts on the topic, is firmly in the bad mixing procedure and Speedball/Goofball co-use camp of thought -
https://twitter.com/DanCiccarone/status/1637226011262881792?cxt=HHwWgMDUpcCYzLgtAAAA .
Anyway, the problem is getting worse depending on area at least here in the States. New York is up around 8%+ of cocaine samples are tainted with fent, Florida is similar, Ohio is around 13-14%.
Heroin and fake pills are now in the low-mid 40% range according to some DEA and CDC stuff I read last night.
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Nah I don't think it works quite like that, they can compliment each other very nicely. For one, you're getting even more dopamine. IBut I think bhank is right, fent wouldn't intentionally be put in coke if not requested. Even then, I don't know how it would be done, seems pretty much impossible to me.
You could do a semi legal speedball by mixing a stimulant, like dmaa, with kratom and/or phenibut. I used Vyvance for the stim so it isn't legal. Phenibut with a stim is very nice, any anxiety from the stim goes away, and stim euphoria increases. And you get more and more dopamine with these combos.
I tried Vyvnase a couple of times. I normally open the capsule, wet my finger and get about 5-6 "licks" from each capsule. That is enough to wire me up all day. I don't see how some people take a whole capsule. And some are on two capsules per day. I can only imagine they are vibrating enough to travel through time and space.
I find 1/4th tab of provigil (modafinil) works perfect the no crash the one or two times a month I use it.
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I tried Vyvnase a couple of times. I normally open the capsule, wet my finger and get about 5-6 "licks" from each capsule. That is enough to wire me up all day. I don't see how some people take a whole capsule. And some are on two capsules per day. I can only imagine they are vibrating enough to travel through time and space.
I find 1/4th tab of provigil (modafinil) works perfect the no crash the one or two times a month I use it.
You just said earlier in the thread you've only tried pot.
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Cannabis is the true medicine the rest do that stuff is just bad for you
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I tried Vyvnase a couple of times. I normally open the capsule, wet my finger and get about 5-6 "licks" from each capsule. That is enough to wire me up all day. I don't see how some people take a whole capsule. And some are on two capsules per day. I can only imagine they are vibrating enough to travel through time and space.
I find 1/4th tab of provigil (modafinil) works perfect the no crash the one or two times a month I use it.
My bottles say Vyvance "Adult" and it's a 70mg capsule but only like 20mg is actual amphetamine. I use one third or one half of a capsule at a time, the whole cap is a bit too much oftentimes.
I suspect the 70mg is the max dose but I know that rarely some docs have prescribed more. One doc was investigated for overprescribing but he was defiant, "don't get involved in my practises, I'm a professor of psychiatry, believe me you don't want my clients running loose on the street, I'm the expert." He was helping criminals but in his view he was only pacifying them as they tend to have ADHD etc.
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This guy, who is one of the world experts on the topic, is firmly in the bad mixing procedure and Speedball/Goofball co-use camp of thought -
https://twitter.com/DanCiccarone/status/1637226011262881792?cxt=HHwWgMDUpcCYzLgtAAAA .
Anyway, the problem is getting worse depending on area at least here in the States. New York is up around 8%+ of cocaine samples are tainted with fent, Florida is similar, Ohio is around 13-14%.
Heroin and fake pills are now in the low-mid 40% range according to some DEA and CDC stuff I read last night.
Thanks.
I'm on two of those off-label treatment drugs lol. Mirtazapine and Bupropion. The bupropion is interesting in that it makes nicotine work less. But instead of stopping my nicotine use I instinctively increased my consumption by 2-3x to get the effect lol.
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You just said earlier in the thread you've only tried pot.
I am talking about rec drugs. The shit you buy on the streets. I got a sample of Vyvnase back in 2010 and then asked my doc for provigil in 2011 which was 60 tabs, that I still have about 26 left.
I have never tried :
Coke
Crack
Herion
Fentanyl
Kratom
Valium
Oxy
Percs
Vics
Benzos
GHB
Mushrooms
X
PCP
mescaline
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My bottles say Vyvance "Adult" and it's a 70mg capsule but only like 20mg is actual amphetamine. I use one third or one half of a capsule at a time, the whole cap is a bit too much oftentimes.
I suspect the 70mg is the max dose but I know that rarely some docs have prescribed more. One doc was investigated for overprescribing but he was defiant, "don't get involved in my practises, I'm a professor of psychiatry, believe me you don't want my clients running loose on the street, I'm the expert." He was helping criminals but in his view he was only pacifying them as they tend to have ADHD etc.
These were a yellow/green colorish capsule. Whatever mg that was. This was back when it had only been out for a short while (couple of years I think), and was supposed to be more competitive with Focalin (sp?) as opposed to competing with Adderall. They had a 10 trial pack at the time. He game me this because he said it was better than the others because you don't lose your appetite or sex drive. (not sure if that is true) I never finished it. I am very sensitive to stims. Right now I buy 4 Bangs for $6 (or Rockstar whichever is on sale at the moment) and drink 1/3 in the morning with breakfast. That is all I need.
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I am talking about rec drugs. The shit you buy on the streets. I got a sample of Vyvnase back in 2010 and then asked my doc for provigil in 2011 which was 60 tabs, that I still have about 26 left.
I have never tried :
Coke
Crack
Herion
Fentanyl
Kratom
Valium
Oxy
Percs
Vics
Benzos
GHB
Mushrooms
X
PCP
mescaline
I have not tried 5 of those.
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I have not tried 5 of those.
And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?
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And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?
Krocodil
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And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?
I think you might mean Desomorphine aka 'Krokodil'?
http://theconversation.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-russias-flesh-eating-drug-krokodil-31736 (http://theconversation.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-russias-flesh-eating-drug-krokodil-31736)
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And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?
Mc Donalds
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i dont know how many people go through the hundreds of tons of cocaine smuggled into america every year.
Maybe you're right, 55 seems like a lot. But in every field i've ever worked in finance, tech and fintech, at every level starting at 1st year analyst all the way up to c-suite, everyone's got coke, every back office worker does coke.
Damn !! Thats quite eye opening its that rife in those jobs .
So many of all ages use it.
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Krocodil
I think you might mean Desomorphine aka 'Krokodil'?
http://theconversation.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-russias-flesh-eating-drug-krokodil-31736 (http://theconversation.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-russias-flesh-eating-drug-krokodil-31736)
Yeah, that's the one.
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And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?
Mc Donalds
Legit LOL ;D
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Damn !! Thats quite eye opening its that rife in those jobs .
So many of all ages use it.
There’s a reason coke is a schedule 2 drug in the eyes of the govt and pot’s classified as schedule 1… same as heroin. Everything small cap and up runs on coke
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These were a yellow/green colorish capsule. Whatever mg that was. This was back when it had only been out for a short while (couple of years I think), and was supposed to be more competitive with Focalin (sp?) as opposed to competing with Adderall. They had a 10 trial pack at the time. He game me this because he said it was better than the others because you don't lose your appetite or sex drive. (not sure if that is true) I never finished it. I am very sensitive to stims. Right now I buy 4 Bangs for $6 (or Rockstar whichever is on sale at the moment) and drink 1/3 in the morning with breakfast. That is all I need.
Amphetamine is a crazy libido booster IME. It's not uncommon for speed freaks to jack off or fuck for like 6 hours straight until you have sores on your dick. Heard this "sores on your dick" story many times.
Vyvance is actually an approved nedication for binge eating disorder so it does reduce appetite in many. First time I tried it it was even hard to drink water.q
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Amphetamine is a crazy libido booster IME. It's not uncommon for speed freaks to jack off or fuck for like 6 hours straight until you have sores on your dick. Heard this "sores on your dick" story many times.
Vyvance is actually an approved nedication for binge eating disorder so it does reduce appetite in many. First time I tried it it was even hard to drink water.q
Imagine how sore the pussy must be after 6 hours.