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Title: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: beakdoctor on February 28, 2023, 11:37:00 AM
What is the GB consensus on cardio?

Fasted or non-fasted?

Does it waste muscle?

Steady state or intervals?

Running or Bikes/rowing/jumping rope?

What is the best time and method?

What is the benefit?

Bodybuilders used to run. Someone said Mentzer ran for up to 10 miles.

I want to incorporate some form of cardio for better heart health/ blood pressure. And I don't want to end up looking anorexic.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: GymnJuice on February 28, 2023, 11:39:00 AM
I do it for heart health. I shoot for 3 times a week. 20 to 30 minutes. I usually use an elliptical. I like running outside but my joints don't.

I don't think it wastes my muscle but it shoots my metabolism up for sure.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: joswift on February 28, 2023, 11:41:55 AM
never in the gym

Walk the dog
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Hulkotron on February 28, 2023, 11:45:29 AM
I endeavor towards at least two hours of aerobic exercise per week.  Currently averaging ~2.3 this year so far.

Mix of mostly cycling and some running, swimming, and rowing.  A little cross country skiing when weather allows.

I do it because I feel unhealthy if I don't.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on February 28, 2023, 12:45:32 PM
Only good for sex.
Pointless for bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on February 28, 2023, 12:48:45 PM
I do it for heart health. I shoot for 3 times a week. 20 to 30 minutes. I usually use an elliptical. I like running outside but my joints don't.

I don't think it wastes my muscle but it shoots my metabolism up for sure.

Do you run on concrete? If so, perhaps running on grass, sand or clouds instead might help.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Zillotch on February 28, 2023, 12:49:46 PM
I am functional.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: deadz on February 28, 2023, 12:50:30 PM
What is the GB consensus on cardio?

Fasted or non-fasted?

Does it waste muscle?

Steady state or intervals?

Running or Bikes/rowing/jumping rope?

What is the best time and method?

What is the benefit?

Bodybuilders used to run. Someone said Mentzer ran for up to 10 miles.

I want to incorporate some form of cardio for better heart health/ blood pressure. And I don't want to end up looking anorexic.
Treadmill for 20 minutes 4x's a week moderate intensity for fat burning and heart health.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Lartinos on February 28, 2023, 12:51:58 PM
I do low intensity for the most part.

I don’t lift heavy any more either.

Longevity is my goal.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: beakdoctor on February 28, 2023, 12:52:36 PM
I need to start for heart health/bp. The only time my b/p waa ever in normal range was when I was regularly running, jumping rope or boxing training.

I want the cardiovascular benefits without losing muscle.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on February 28, 2023, 12:52:47 PM
What is the GB consensus on cardio?

Fasted or non-fasted?

Does it waste muscle?

Steady state or intervals?

Running or Bikes/rowing/jumping rope?

What is the best time and method?

What is the benefit?

Bodybuilders used to run. Someone said Mentzer ran for up to 10 miles.

I want to incorporate some form of cardio for better heart health/ blood pressure. And I don't want to end up looking anorexic.
Eat less for fat burning and heart health.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: robcguns on February 28, 2023, 12:53:13 PM
I just walk fast for 5-10 miles a day. I usually average 8-9 but I’m good with at least 5. I like to walk at 4.5-5mph. Good to relax, think about shit or don’t think at all.not crazy cardio but enough to make you feel good drop some weight,help bp and keep the blood flowing. Also doesn’t damage the joints badly.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Cook on February 28, 2023, 01:02:38 PM
I walk or ride a Schwinn airdyne.At least 4 times a week but I usually will throw in an extra session like maybe late on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on February 28, 2023, 01:03:20 PM
I do a total of 150 to 180 minutes per week, nearly all jogging outdoors, and sometimes walking on the Panata treadmill at the highest difficulty.

 Usually fasted.

There’s no best time.

Reasons: Health, longevity, body composition.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: The Keto Kid on February 28, 2023, 01:19:15 PM
I swim for 60-90 minutes twice a week on my off days. I feel it gives my body a lot of detail, especially shoulders and back, keeps my muscles stretched out, keeps the rotator cuffs healthy, it's resistance training and cardio so you don't wither away, Makes you wider.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: youandme on February 28, 2023, 01:26:25 PM
5 hours a week, eliptical and treadmill split. Good for heart health, endurance, and mental health.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Grape Ape on February 28, 2023, 01:39:20 PM
4x a week weight training has a conditioning circuit at the end.

1x a week is a full hour conditioning.

"Off" days can be walks or rucks.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: ROBOAK on February 28, 2023, 01:42:09 PM
I do low intensity for the most part.

I don’t lift heavy any more either.

Longevity is my goal.
whats your defintion of "lifting heavy"      6 rep max or under ? ,     8 rep max ?,   10 rep max , 15max +  ?
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: IroNat on February 28, 2023, 01:54:34 PM
I hate cardio.

Ride my bike outside weather permitting.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: GymnJuice on February 28, 2023, 02:25:16 PM
Do you run on concrete? If so, perhaps running on grass, sand or clouds instead might help.

No doubt :)

If I tried to run on grass around here I'd just be going around in a circle in my yard. Or jogging through all the neighbor's yards on their grass which wouldn't be cool. There are parks which are a bit of a drive. Ideally I'd swim like someone suggested above but by the time I drive to a pool and change I'd already have finished my cardio on the elliptical so its more efficient this way.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: joswift on February 28, 2023, 02:40:45 PM
its pretty much useless for fat loss, an hour on a bike is the equivalent of three cookies.

Easier to not eat three cookies and do something productive with the hour.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 28, 2023, 05:36:34 PM
I do about 120 minutes a week, on a Peleton, at six every morning. I do it for heart health and calorie deficit. It’s actually got my cholesterol down as well. I was on statins for two years and it didn’t do much and the last year and a half I’ve done nothing but add the bike and it’s 170 total. I stopped taking the statins a while back and it was still low. I’m doing blood work again next week so we’ll see what it looks like.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 28, 2023, 05:37:09 PM
Run 45 min to an hour six days, mainly because I enjoy athletic training and occasionally enter races. Took it more seriously after stopping training BJJ and Muay Thai regularly due to injuries. Running filled the void.

If you’re gonna call yourself an athlete, IMO, running a few miles is something you
Should be able to do.-
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Fortress on February 28, 2023, 06:17:08 PM
Each day Fortress climbs 16-20 floors to help maintain a healthy heart/BP.

The stairwell is directly beside my front door.

Slap on some metal and JAM.

Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: beakdoctor on February 28, 2023, 06:39:41 PM
Each day Fortress climbs 16-20 floors to help maintain a healthy heart/BP.

The stairwell is directly beside my front door.

Slap on some metal and JAM.

Thats an ass kicker. Even at a normal pace. How long does that take? 10 - 12 mins?
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 28, 2023, 06:56:41 PM
Fasted or not doesn’t make a difference. But aside from that I do it mostly for conditioning. Walk, ruck, sprint sand berms in front of the house. Kongo is here so I’ll roll with him, rampage, Dillishaw and my son in a rotation until I die once or twice a week
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 28, 2023, 07:00:55 PM
Each day Fortress climbs 16-20 floors to help maintain a healthy heart/BP.

The stairwell is directly beside my front door.

Slap on some metal and JAM.

I used to work on the 8th floor and took the stairs every morning, at lunch and every night.

Great workout.

I typically hike 2-3 days a week for a couple hours and have marathon sex with my GF Fri/Sat/Sun.

Keeps me in shape.

Once it warms up i'll mountain bike after work a couple days.

When i was into BBing i never could do fasted cardio or morning cardio in general. My workouts were always fast paced and i lost fat through dieting.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: loco on February 28, 2023, 07:22:15 PM
What is the GB consensus on cardio?

Fasted or non-fasted?

Does it waste muscle?

Steady state or intervals?

Running or Bikes/rowing/jumping rope?

What is the best time and method?

What is the benefit?

Bodybuilders used to run. Someone said Mentzer ran for up to 10 miles.

I want to incorporate some form of cardio for better heart health/ blood pressure. And I don't want to end up looking anorexic.

After weight training in the morning or afternoon, I walk on a motorless treadmill which has a slight, permanent incline.  I walk 30 minutes at least 5 days a week, while streaming my favorite series or movies.

I do this only for general good health, and absolutely not to lose fat or keep it off.

I can and do lose fat and keep it off very easily with eating habits alone, a very meat heavy keto diet.

I eat when I'm hungry and until I'm full.  So I'll exercise on an empty stomach sometimes, and other times I'll exercise an hour or so after eating.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Fortress on February 28, 2023, 10:49:07 PM
Thats an ass kicker. Even at a normal pace. How long does that take? 10 - 12 mins?

Approximately, yes. It’s four floors, so I walk down and then back up, repeating four to five times.

Like I say, some metal in my ears and it’s short work. But feels great.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: wes on February 28, 2023, 10:52:34 PM
I used to run the bleaches at the college before I fucked myself up.......fucking brutal !

These days I just walk when weather permits and train with very brief rest periods.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on February 28, 2023, 11:26:27 PM
I want the cardiovascular benefits without losing muscle.

Stay hydrated and measure your weight, biceps and waist multiple times a day for a few weeks to suss shit out and be at one with your beautiful body.

I've always been para about losing muscle from playing sport, long walks.....
I'm pretty sure it doesn't make much of a difference. You won't lose muscle by walking for 42 minutes.
Lack of food is a bigger muscle killer.
You can shrink a bit temporarily after a long brutal workout (mostly glycogen depletion and dehydration I reckon) but then bounce right back after eating, drinking, listening to Pantera..

I remember back in the 16th century (no Wes) when I first started lifting and would bench for over an hour straight and notice I'd eventually lose my pump, look/get more and more deflated the longer I benched for after a certain point..

When you barbell bench too long, you become the barbell.
Be water and glycogen my friend. Not barbell.
Empty your mind and fill your body with steroids.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: wes on February 28, 2023, 11:32:50 PM
Stay hydrated and measure your weight, biceps and waist multiple times a day for a few weeks to suss shit out and be at one with your beautiful body.

I've always been para about losing muscle from playing sport, long walks.....
I'm pretty sure it doesn't make much of a difference. You won't lose muscle by walking for 42 minutes.
Lack of food is a bigger muscle killer.
You can shrink a bit temporarily after a long brutal workout (mostly glycogen depletion and dehydration I reckon) but then bounce right back after eating, drinking, listening to Pantera..

I remember back in the 16th century (no Wes) when I first started lifting and would bench for over an hour straight and notice I'd eventually lose my pump, look/get more and more deflated the longer I benched for after a certain point..

When you barbell bench too long, you become the barbell.
Be water and glycogen my friend. Not barbell.
Empty your mind and fill your body with steroids.
I agree after a certain number of sets the pump will dissipate......the key is to find out the amount of volume needed for hypertrophy for each bodypart.....which is never ending because we need more or less depending on certain factors as we age.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on February 28, 2023, 11:37:56 PM
its pretty much useless for fat loss, an hour on a bike is the equivalent of three cookies.

Easier to not eat three cookies and do something productive with the hour.

x4

"Love" seeing fat pigs go for walks around the block for "exercise".
You just know:
- they think they're gonna get in shape from it
- they will eat cookies when they get back home as a reward for "working out so hard".

Lose 100 calories worth
then eat 300 calories
 ::)

"WHY aren't I losing weight?!! ??? :'("
::)
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: wes on March 01, 2023, 12:09:05 AM
x4

"Love" seeing fat pigs go for walks around the block for "exercise".
You just know:
- they think they're gonna get in shape from it
- they will eat cookies when they get back home as a reward for "working out so hard".

Lose 100 calories worth
then eat 300 calories
 ::)

"WHY aren't I losing weight?!! ??? :'("
::)
Or the fat tub of shit who eats two large pizzas and buys a shotload of Diet-Coke with it cuz he think`s it will offset his gluttony.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 01, 2023, 12:58:29 AM
Ran a few marathons in my 20's and a couple dozen 5-10K's. In my 30's did cardio on the treadmill after weights. Now I walk everyday which includes a big hill.

When I stop doing any cardio my BP starts to climb. Parents both went on BP and statins in their early 40's and I was heading down that path before starting cardio back up. It definitely makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: JackTheRipper on March 01, 2023, 03:24:52 AM
its pretty much useless for fat loss, an hour on a bike is the equivalent of three cookies.

Easier to not eat three cookies and do something productive with the hour.
If you train regularly with weights then you surely know you have to train regularly for results..why should cardio be any different?
It's the accumulation of regular cardio that yields results & the body definitely responds.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on March 01, 2023, 03:26:46 AM
Or the fat tub of shit who eats two large pizzas and buys a shotload of Diet-Coke with it cuz he think`s it will offset his gluttony.

Delusions of grandeur diet(ing)!!
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 01, 2023, 03:36:14 AM
its pretty much useless for fat loss, an hour on a bike is the equivalent of three cookies.

Easier to not eat three cookies and do something productive with the hour.

Yes x2 this is a misconception many plebes have about exercise.  Weightloss / “burning fat” is all about diet. 

If someone is doing ~nothing then gradually builds up to 10+ hours per week of serious cardio then yes they will get lighter/leaner (look at your average competitive triathlete body) but most people aren’t going to do anywhere near that much.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: JackTheRipper on March 01, 2023, 03:56:06 AM
Yes x2 this is a misconception many plebes have about exercise.  Weightloss / “burning fat” is all about diet. 

If someone is doing ~nothing then gradually builds up to 10+ hours per week of serious cardio then yes they will get lighter/leaner (look at your average competitive triathlete body) but most people aren’t going to do anywhere near that much.
10+ hours?
Obviously you've never done proper cardio & just repeat garbage some fatso told you .
You can get great results with 30 mins hard interval training 3=4 times a week.
Walking for hours on a treadmill is not needed. Indeed I have had very fruitful results using a Crosstrainer  for the durations I stated. Of course you need to break sweat & use intensity.
Works for me.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on March 01, 2023, 06:16:25 AM
I agree after a certain number of sets the pump will dissipate......the key is to find out the amount of volume needed for hypertrophy for each bodypart.....which is never ending because we need more or less depending on certain factors as we age.

yes and when to train them again.


If you put volume into a bodypart, it becomes the pump.
Be like hypertrophy, my friend.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: wes on March 01, 2023, 06:42:38 AM
yes and when to train them again.


If you put volume into a bodypart, it becomes the pump.
Be like hypertrophy, my friend.
X2
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 01, 2023, 07:18:57 AM
10+ hours?
Obviously you've never done proper cardio & just repeat garbage some fatso told you .
You can get great results with 30 mins hard interval training 3=4 times a week.
Walking for hours on a treadmill is not needed. Indeed I have had very fruitful results using a Crosstrainer  for the durations I stated. Of course you need to break sweat & use intensity.
Works for me.

There are reasons to not solely concentrate on HIIT fool.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 01, 2023, 02:45:13 PM
10+ hours?
Obviously you've never done proper cardio & just repeat garbage some fatso told you .
You can get great results with 30 mins hard interval training 3=4 times a week.
Walking for hours on a treadmill is not needed. Indeed I have had very fruitful results using a Crosstrainer  for the durations I stated. Of course you need to break sweat & use intensity.
Works for me.

I’m talking about triathletes, fool.  10 hours/wk is just getting started in that world, and there’s no walking involved.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: JackTheRipper on March 02, 2023, 05:13:37 AM
I’m talking about triathletes, fool.  10 hours/wk is just getting started in that world, and there’s no walking involved.
Your mother sucks cocks in hell
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Mohammed Omari on March 02, 2023, 05:23:21 AM
Your mother sucks cocks in hell

Your mother would be in heaven if she had a few cocks in her gob, lol lol lol.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: JackTheRipper on March 02, 2023, 06:07:30 AM
Your mother would be in heaven if she had a few cocks in her gob, lol lol lol.
Your mother was a Goat
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: a_pupil on March 02, 2023, 06:19:34 AM
BJJ or boxing 3-4 times a week.

Run all out on some grass for 500 metres with the kids a couple times a week lol.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Mohammed Omari on March 02, 2023, 06:31:20 AM
Your mother was a Goat

Your mother is the GOAT at carpark blowjobs. She's had more cocks than an antique shotgun.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 02, 2023, 06:45:38 AM
CockYesDeeper getting dominated here.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 02, 2023, 07:28:40 AM
PIP

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4988992/amp/Too-exercise-kill-white-man.html
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on March 02, 2023, 07:58:29 AM
Your mother is the GOAT at carpark blowjobs. She's had more cocks than an antique shotgun.

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Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Gym Rat on March 02, 2023, 08:20:13 AM
Not a fan of the normal cardio done inside on treadmills and stuff. But I do it anyway during the winter.
(And 2 days a week of  the Airdyne/Interval stuff).

3 seasons out of the year, we go for daily 1-hour walks w/ Buddy the Wonder Dog.
He moves quick, makes us work and keep up. Our neighborhood is filled with hills so its a very good workout.
In summer, long walks in sand as well. (Beach bums).

I could care less about fat loss. Mainly done to strengthen heart muscle.
At this age, longevity sounds good right about now...

Also, Mo wins the battle of "your Ma sucks caulk" jokes here. He normally owns people at a master level.
Great poster (or peace)...
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: beakdoctor on March 02, 2023, 08:20:24 AM
PIP

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4988992/amp/Too-exercise-kill-white-man.html

You see? This! This is what I'm talking about. The 'study' flies in the face of everything we know about exercise.

I'd be truly curious to knowa few things about this study.

I guess 1st- what was the percentage of the ethnicities involved? If out of 3,715 participants only 20 or 30 were black then that would be a statistical anomaly.

Next I'd ask whete were the participants recruited from? For example were these people who were on a workout program because of a family hx of coronary disease or at risk of obesity or were these college students.

Then how were these numbers tracked over 25 years? Who in the fuck can say with certainty that they've worked out 7.5 hours a week for 25 years? I mean thats an hour a day every single day for 25 years.

Now I also understand that that's an AVERAGE so some participants may have worked out 15 hours a week for 25 years while others may have worked out less than one hour a week but the average, over the course of 25 years, is 7.5. So is it the people in the study that actually worked out less that developed CAC?

Or a participant, for example worked out 15 hrs a week for the first 7 years of the study, then 5-7 hrs for the next 10 years of the study. Then not at all for the last 8 years of the study, which is when he developed CAC?

So many other factors: what kind of exercise, quality control, truthful reporting,  diet, regional factors.

"There are lies, damn lies and statistics"- Mark Twain.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: affeman on March 02, 2023, 08:22:07 AM
Walking 11 minutes per day will lower your risk of stroke, heart disease and some cancers by 23%; hope this helps.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/exercise-health-benefits-news-walk-11-minutes-daily-lower-risk-stroke-heart-disease-cancer/
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on March 02, 2023, 08:49:23 AM
Walking 11 minutes per day will lower your risk of stroke, heart disease and some cancers by 23%; hope this helps.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/exercise-health-benefits-news-walk-11-minutes-daily-lower-risk-stroke-heart-disease-cancer/

No, it doesn't help.

You still don't understand, Dillon, do you?

Studies like that are for / in regard to 80yo inactive fucks, NOT active bodybuilders (people who already exercise).

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Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 02, 2023, 08:53:11 AM
A few things that cardio benefits is increased insulin sensitivity and definitely increases appetite, never understood why a lot of off-season bodybuilders cut out cardio completely and then complain about having no appetite. One thing specifically with swimming is it makes me ravenous hungry and makes me sleep like a baby.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: joswift on March 02, 2023, 09:36:54 AM
A few things that cardio benefits is increased insulin sensitivity and definitely increases appetite, never understood why a lot of off-season bodybuilders cut out cardio completely and then complain about having no appetite. One thing specifically with swimming is it makes me ravenous hungry and makes me sleep like a baby.
yep, swimming always makes me hungry
Not a great swimmer though, cant get my breathing right, I also sink like a fucking stone
Normally if you take a breath and curl in a ball you float , I just sink straight to the bottom
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 02, 2023, 09:56:14 AM
yep, swimming always makes me hungry
Not a great swimmer though, cant get my breathing right, I also sink like a fucking stone
Normally if you take a breath and curl in a ball you float , I just sink straight to the bottom
I've done all types of cardio, but swimming just makes you insanely hungry, which is probably why Michael Phelps was able to eat 10,000 calories a day training for the Olympics.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on March 02, 2023, 10:19:55 AM
yep, swimming always makes me hungry
Not a great swimmer though, cant get my breathing right, I also sink like a fucking stone
Normally if you take a breath and curl in a ball you float , I just sink straight to the bottom

LOL this

sucks being ripped (at times).

Even drying yourself with a towel is a pain in the ass. Missing / struggling to wipe 23% of the remaining water drops on your skin/bod because they're in brutal cuts..
Wish I was in Shitzo-like shape after showering or when swimming or in a car/bike accident or when it's cold....
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: GymnJuice on March 02, 2023, 11:30:59 AM
Your mother sucks cocks in hell

Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: joswift on March 02, 2023, 12:51:40 PM

My response to the possessed child.
My mother loved to suck cocks, no way would she be allowed to do that in hell, its meant to be a punishment.  ;D
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on March 02, 2023, 01:41:50 PM
My response to the possessed child.
My mother loved to suck cocks, no way would she be allowed to do that in hell, its meant to be a punishment.  ;D

YOU SICK FUCK!
I am appalled!!!
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!
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Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 02, 2023, 02:21:52 PM
Running a lot makes you hungry af. There’s even a name for it, “Runger.”

With regard to how much, if you just want to be reasonably fit, about 1/2 hour 3x a week is fine.

But if you’re interested in performance, the more the better. It’s kind of like getting a tan. If you go to the beach 3x a week you’ll have a decent tan but if you want the deepest darkest tan possible, you gotta go every day.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: joswift on March 02, 2023, 02:25:56 PM
Running a lot makes you hungry af. There’s even a name for it, “Runger.”

With regard to how much, if you just want to be reasonably fit, about 1/2 hour 3x a week is fine.

But if you’re interested in performance, the more the better. It’s kind of like getting a tan. If you go to the beach 3x a week you’ll have a decent tan but if you want the deepest darkest tan possible, you gotta go every day.

stimulate dont annihilate
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: beakdoctor on March 02, 2023, 02:38:12 PM
Running a lot makes you hungry af. There’s even a name for it, “Runger.”

With regard to how much, if you just want to be reasonably fit, about 1/2 hour 3x a week is fine.

But if you’re interested in performance, the more the better. It’s kind of like getting a tan. If you go to the beach 3x a week you’ll have a decent tan but if you want the deepest darkest tan possible, you gotta go every day.

Im only onterested in heart health and specifically B/P.

I don't want to waste any muscle at my age. So I don't want to do anymore than is necessary to maintain  good b/p.

For getting ultra lean I believe that is one hundred percent diet. Im naturally pretty lean to begin with.
A few things that cardio benefits is increased insulin sensitivity and definitely increases appetite, never understood why a lot of off-season bodybuilders cut out cardio completely and then complain about having no appetite. One thing specifically with swimming is it makes me ravenous hungry and makes me sleep like a baby.

Keto,  are you usually "flat" when you workout? Is that ever an issue? When I was doing keto and a lot of cardio a few years back I was pretty much a stringbean, a little more musclebound than a sprinter but fairly small and for the love of god I could not achieve a 'pump' when I lifted.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2023, 02:39:48 PM

Keto,  are you usually "flat" when you workout? Is that ever an issue? When I was doing keto and a lot of cardio a few years back I was pretty much a stringbean, a little more musclebound than a sprinter but fairly small and for the love of god I could not achieve a 'pump' when I lifted.

I believe he drinks raw milk pre workout, with the sugar preventing this.

Could be wrong though.

For me, frequent running was the only thing that raised my HDL.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: kh300 on March 02, 2023, 03:01:48 PM
Increased appetite, better sleep. Something also happens when you get a good sweat and get a good workout that lifting doesn't provide. I just feel better. Cross country skiing, snowboarding, mountain biking, kayaking, mountain climbing.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 02, 2023, 03:19:59 PM
Im only onterested in heart health and specifically B/P.

I don't want to waste any muscle at my age. So I don't want to do anymore than is necessary to maintain  good b/p.

For getting ultra lean I believe that is one hundred percent diet. Im naturally pretty lean to begin with.
Keto,  are you usually "flat" when you workout? Is that ever an issue? When I was doing keto and a lot of cardio a few years back I was pretty much a stringbean, a little more musclebound than a sprinter but fairly small and for the love of god I could not achieve a 'pump' when I lifted.
I drink raw milk pre and post workout, so in total I get around 40 grams of carbs a day, I also salt all my meals, and drink a pre-workout concoction of unflavored Citrulline/unflavored beta alanine, and a packet of unflavored LMNT electrolytes. I get crazy pumps dude, pump is all about hydration. Most people who do keto are not supplementing with electrolytes, this is key you gotta stay on top of sodium/potassium/magnesium and don't overly drink water, the more water you drink the more you piss/flush out minerals. I only drink when thirsty. They days I swim, I'm on meat and eggs only, no raw milk.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2023, 03:31:45 PM
I drink raw milk pre and post workout, so in total I get around 40 grams of carbs a day, I also salt all my meals, and drink a pre-workout concoction of unflavored Citrulline/unflavored beta alanine, and a packet of unflavored LMNT electrolytes. I get crazy pumps dude, pump is all about hydration. Most people who do keto are not supplementing with electrolytes, this is key you gotta stay on top of sodium/potassium/magnesium and don't overly drink water, the more water you drink the more you piss/flush out minerals. I only drink when thirsty. They days I swim, I'm on meat and eggs only, no raw milk.

I got raw milk and yogurt, grass fed bones, and uncured beef sausage from a local farm near me.

It's f'n awesome.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 02, 2023, 03:38:35 PM
I got raw milk and yogurt, grass fed bones, and uncured beef sausage from a local farm near me.

It's f'n awesome.
Raw milk is liquid dbol bro!
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: beakdoctor on March 02, 2023, 03:46:58 PM
Raw milk is liquid dbol bro!

Ok. I thats it. Im sold.

Edit--

Fuck. Its prohibited to sell non pasteurized milk in Oregon.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Raw milk is liquid dbol bro!

It feels that way.  One cup before workout mixed with coffee and some pure maple syrup, one after.

Lower carb, some fruit, and well sourced meats morning and night.

Not committing to keto, but slowly phasing out the non fruit carbs to start.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 02, 2023, 04:04:57 PM
I am also on Team Maple Syrup In The Coffee.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 02, 2023, 04:16:12 PM
Ok. I thats it. Im sold.

Edit--

Fuck. Its prohibited to sell non pasteurized milk in Oregon.
Find a farmer bro!

It feels that way.  One cup before workout mixed with coffee and some pure maple syrup, one after.

Lower carb, some fruit, and well sourced meats morning and night.

Not committing to keto, but slowly phasing out the non fruit carbs to start.
There's tons of growth factors in raw milk, it's literally designed to grow a baby calf into a 600lb cow, so it's great for adding size, also great for hydration as well.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: pamith on March 02, 2023, 04:29:05 PM
I walk a lot since I don't have a car anymore, that's my cardio
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: hardgainerj on March 02, 2023, 06:07:04 PM
30 minutes after weigts at the highest incline because of knee issues

I feel great afterwords
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Hendrixian on March 02, 2023, 09:30:44 PM
I started running when the pandemic hit. I'm used to box/karate/muay thai and jumping rope, but it's nothing compared to running, it's brutal if you are heavy. After your body gets used to it, it's amazing, I don't care about speed and I try to keep it in the zone 2. I'm currently 240lbs and my legs can't take it, I'm trying to drop to about 220lbs.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 03, 2023, 12:57:19 AM
PIP

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4988992/amp/Too-exercise-kill-white-man.html
I'm noticing more and more of these articles telling us exercise kills us as does eating meat, taking vitamins, etc. I think they want to convince to stop taking care of ourselves so we die sooner.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 03, 2023, 02:11:42 AM
Know how the opposite of Science is Conspiracy Theory? Well here's a CT: There's a conspiracy to bodysnatch science and replace it with a doppelganger that keeps spewing retarded horseshit.

Two days ago an MD told my gf that all her protein should be 'plant based.' She has never expressed any interest in being a vegan. Then he overcharged her because he used up more than the allotted appointment time talking about shit she wasn't there to discuss while not giving her answers about what she was there to discuss. She was so upset that I had to make chicken marbella just to get a damn handjob on the couch.

Dark days.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: wes on March 03, 2023, 03:04:57 AM
I used to do a lot of running......from the cops....does that count as doing cardio ?   :D
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: JackTheRipper on March 03, 2023, 07:07:51 AM
I believe he drinks raw milk pre workout, with the sugar preventing this.

Could be wrong though.

For me, frequent running was the only thing that raised my HDL.
No shit
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Grape Ape on March 03, 2023, 07:08:36 AM
No shit

I was right dipshit - it's exactly what he does.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 03, 2023, 07:38:57 AM
A goat farmer once told me that goats are sensitive creatures. In the sense that they'll quit producing milk if they're unwell, as opposed to a cow which will keep giving milk even if they have TB. Reasoning that raw goat's milk is safer than raw cow milk.

I've had it and it's not gamey at all if the goats have a good diet. Also didn't have any digestive issues which are an issue with store bought cow milk. The farm is out of my way tho so I gave it up.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: pamith on March 03, 2023, 09:26:58 AM
I used to do a lot of running......from the cops....does that count as doing cardio ?   :D
My nikka
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 03, 2023, 10:22:40 AM
A goat farmer once told me that goats are sensitive creatures. In the sense that they'll quit producing milk if they're unwell, as opposed to a cow which will keep giving milk even if they have TB. Reasoning that raw goat's milk is safer than raw cow milk.

I've had it and it's not gamey at all if the goats have a good diet. Also didn't have any digestive issues which are an issue with store bought cow milk. The farm is out of my way tho so I gave it up.
Raw goat milk is great as well, supposedly the closest thing to human breast milk, but what you said is store bought cows milk, of course you and 90% of the adult population have digestive issues with Pasturized cows milk because the Pasturization process kills all the healthy enzymes and bacteria that help digest and process the lactose. Which is why we're discussing raw milk, completely different ball game, raw milk =  liquid dbol. More like liquid IGF because it actually does increase IGF 1, it's loaded with growth factors.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on March 03, 2023, 03:40:33 PM
Im only onterested in heart health and specifically B/P.

I don't want to waste any muscle at my age. So I don't want to do anymore than is necessary to maintain  good b/p.

For getting ultra lean I believe that is one hundred percent diet. Im naturally pretty lean to begin with.
Keto,  are you usually "flat" when you workout? Is that ever an issue? When I was doing keto and a lot of cardio a few years back I was pretty much a stringbean, a little more musclebound than a sprinter but fairly small and for the love of god I could not achieve a 'pump' when I lifted.

I believe the muscle wasting is largely overblown primarily because those with the highest aptitude for distance running are skinny to start. Sure if you do crazy volume you’ll start to lose some muscle but most don’t do that much.
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: NoPEDsNoBB on March 04, 2023, 01:02:10 AM
I used to do a lot of running......from the cops....does that count as doing cardio ?   :D
Bro...

Brutal if true
Title: Re: Cardio. Who does it and why?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 04, 2023, 01:08:34 AM
I used to do a lot of running......from the cops....does that count as doing cardio ?   :D
For the cops. Those donut stuffing fat fucks probably almost died chasing you.