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Title: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 08:52:52 AM
But...are you really "retired" if you still need to work?  ???

If you don't need to work for money, is working your hobby?  ???

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/9-smart-part-time-jobs-130017234.html

I'm Retired But Want to Work Still. What Are My Options?

"Retired people need to stay busy and it never hurts to make extra cash, especially when you’re on a fixed income."
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 09:13:13 AM
I never understood the gripe "I'm on a fixed income."

It's fixed. Guaranteed. You do jack shit and the government hands you other people's money. What's the problem exactly, you geriatric parasite?

If you don't need the money then do some boomer shit. Mentor a negro. Vote Democrat. Learn to use a computer.

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on October 29, 2023, 09:14:22 AM
working because you have to and working because you want to are two totally different things
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 29, 2023, 09:14:42 AM
Retirement is soon to be a thing of the past, for most.  The first of the 401k generation are starting to retire, and the mean 401k for that age group is valued at $182,000 .. the median is even more dreadful—something like $70k  :-X

All these articles about the joys of working in one’s retirement are manufacturing consent for the idea that it’s normal and good for Americans to work until they die.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 29, 2023, 09:16:32 AM
I never understood the gripe "I'm on a fixed income."

It's fixed. Guaranteed. You do jack shit and the government hands you other people's money. What's the problem exactly, you geriatric parasite?

If you don't need the money then do some boomer shit. Mentor a negro. Vote Democrat. Learn to use a computer.

How exactly is an old pensioner a parasite?  They worked and paid taxes for the social services which they now receive. 
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Grape Ape on October 29, 2023, 09:20:58 AM
I understand the concept.

Some people just need something to do.

Nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 29, 2023, 09:23:54 AM
Retirement is soon to be a thing of the past, for most.  The first of the 401k generation are starting to retire, and the mean 401k for that age group is valued at $182,000 .. the median is even more dreadful—something like $70k  :-X

All these articles about the joys of working in one’s retirement are manufacturing consent for the idea that it’s normal and good for Americans to work until they die.

Retirement, in terms of human history, is a new concept that is limited to western cultures. People who retire young and expect to live the same lifestyle are moronic.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 29, 2023, 09:31:18 AM
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If you don't need the money then do some boomer shit. Mentor a negro. Vote Democrat. Learn to use a computer.

"Mentor a negro."   

I...cain't..breave!  OH LAWD A-BUV!   Hep me!  I...cain't...breave!

Now THIS was dat dere cake we all done herd be taken when sumwon done took de cake. 
'n' shiet!


Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 29, 2023, 09:34:24 AM
working because you have to and working because you want to are two totally different things

Yes but "mentoring a negroe" must surely be de gainz what gainz you in-trance to dem dere pearly neklace...ummm...gateses!  'n' sheit. ;D

De white manz burdon be back!  Mentor a negroe (or sum white trash) today!
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 09:34:54 AM
How exactly is an old pensioner a parasite?  They worked and paid taxes for the social services which they now receive.

They're not getting their own money back. That money is gone. It was given to bankers and bomb makers.

I'm sure they like to pretend that their grandchildren aren't footing the bill, but they are. I just want to hear them say it. "I bought in to a corrupt socialist ponzi scheme which the ass is destined to fall right out of, and I'm content to have my grandkids be stuck holding the bag."
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 29, 2023, 09:36:44 AM
They're not getting their own money back. That money is gone. It was given to bankers and bomb makers.

I'm sure they like to pretend that their grandchildren aren't footing the bill, but they are. I just want to hear them say it. "I bought in to a corrupt socialist ponzi scheme which the ass is destined to fall right out of, and I'm content to have my grandkids be stuck holding the bag."

Have you dun yo' dude diligence 'n' mentored a negroe or even a wegroe, today?  Perspiring mindz be wantin' to knowz!  'n' sheit.  ;D
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 29, 2023, 09:47:32 AM
They're not getting their own money back. That money is gone. It was given to bankers and bomb makers.

I'm sure they like to pretend that their grandchildren aren't footing the bill, but they are. I just want to hear them say it. "I bought in to a corrupt socialist ponzi scheme which the ass is destined to fall right out of, and I'm content to have my grandkids be stuck holding the bag."

Bought into? Social Security is a tax that 95% of the US population cannot opt out of. Do you know why it was set up? It was long before the people using it were able to make a decision regarding it.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: MajorDomo on October 29, 2023, 09:52:13 AM
How exactly is an old pensioner a parasite?  They worked and paid taxes for the social services which they now receive.

They aren't - but that is lost on some ;D.

In the USA the social security and medicare taxes add up to 15.3 % of a person wages (employees share plus employers share). If you made $50K a year for 10 years that's a scalping of $76,500. Over 40 years that's over $300K that, if it had been invested in a 5% savings account, with monthly contributions equal to the amount taken out in social security, would lead to over $1,000,000.  And none of this takes in account raises over that time or a higher rate of return.

Math apparently scares some people, hahaha

https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/investment-calculator (https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/investment-calculator)




Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 09:52:33 AM
Have you dun yo' dude diligence 'n' mentored a negroe or even a wegroe, today?  Perspiring mindz be wantin' to knowz!  'n' sheit.  ;D

True Adonis nailed it years ago when he said affluent white Democrats regard black people as pets.

I find the boomer generation, on the whole, to be sociopaths who, through token efforts, convince themselves that they're just so goddamn wonderful.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: MajorDomo on October 29, 2023, 09:56:36 AM
True Adonis nailed it years ago when he said affluent white Democrats regard black people as pets.

I find the boomer generation, on the whole, to be sociopaths who, through token efforts, convince themselves that they're just so goddamn wonderful.

Isn't True Adonis a pedophile? I guess he really did "nail it" lol
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 29, 2023, 09:57:18 AM
They aren't - but that is lost on some ;D.

In the USA the social security and medicare taxes add up to 15.3 % of a person wages (employees share plus employers share). If you made $50K a year for 10 years that's a scalping of $76,500. Over 40 years that's over $300K that, if it had been invested in a 5% savings account, with monthly contributions equal to the amount taken out in social security, would lead to over $1,000,000.  And none of this takes in account raises over that time or a higher rate of return.

Math apparently scares some people, hahaha

https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/investment-calculator (https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/investment-calculator)

6.2% of our wages go to social security. 1.45% is Medicare. Every individual pays 7.65% into FICA tax. Your employer pays the same amount on your behalf. If this was eliminated employers would not be paying their employees an extra 7.65%.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 29, 2023, 09:58:04 AM
True Adonis nailed it years ago when he said affluent white Democrats regard black people as pets.

I find the boomer generation, on the whole, to be sociopaths who, through token efforts, convince themselves that they're just so goddamn wonderful.

And those pets are coming for them and those cucked Dems deserve Hades.

Of course I am in the "boomer" category and I know we are nothing compared to the "Greatest Generation" but I do what I can for the good of my family and friends.   
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 09:58:15 AM
Bought into? Social Security is a tax that 95% of the US population cannot opt out of. Do you know why it was set up? It was long before the people using it were able to make a decision regarding it.

Good point. Not being able to opt out of it seems kinda tyrannical.

Counterpoint. Go talk to a social security recipient. Their only complaint will be that their grandkids don't have to pay them more.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 29, 2023, 10:01:08 AM
Good point. Not being able to opt out of it seems kinda tyrannical.

Counterpoint. Go talk to a social security recipient. Their only complaint will be that their grandkids don't have to pay them more.

lol.

I’m not saying SS is great but it is what it is. Are there better systems that aren’t going to bankrupt a nation?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 10:08:08 AM
Isn't True Adonis a pedophile? I guess he really did "nail it" lol

Idk. I missed that whole saga. His take on white Democrats and blacks was spot on tho.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 29, 2023, 10:19:28 AM
lol.

I’m not saying SS is great but it is what it is. Are there better systems that aren’t going to bankrupt a nation?

They say if you want less of something, tax it. More of something, subsidize it.

So maybe don't tax work and then subsidize not working and not saving for retirement.

Also end the fed so you can't just brrrr the press to fund dastardly schemes like endless warmonging by debasing the currency.

*bang*

Next case.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 29, 2023, 10:38:11 AM
lol.

I’m not saying SS is great but it is what it is. Are there better systems that aren’t going to bankrupt a nation?


Bro, you can’t say the SS is great on this board. Did you forget and think you were on Stormfront?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 29, 2023, 11:00:14 AM
I retired and I worked very part time. I make about 20K with my part time job that comes in handy for stuff like car repairs, appliances breaking and vacation.  I don't touch that money and I let it accumulate to use as needed.  In two years I will have my house paid off and in NJ at 65 you can freeze the outrageous house taxes from increasing. My retirement pension is healthy.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Gym Rat on October 29, 2023, 11:01:46 AM
True Adonis nailed it years ago when he said affluent white Democrats regard black people as pets.

I find the boomer generation, on the whole, to be sociopaths who, through token efforts, convince themselves that they're just so goddamn wonderful.

Didint the demturdz push back against Lincoln freeing saves?? They still waned tehm as chained-up pets...
Vile hypocrite scumbags... Glory-hole cokk-guobblers...
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on October 29, 2023, 11:05:28 AM
I work now, my wife works part time a couple days in a gym on the counter, she is only doing it to help out, she doesnt need the money

I will only be working another 2 years tops, at 60 I can take my pension and leave

The job I do I could also do freelance for the company at a day rate if they wanted me.

I could make a few quid PT at the gym and could be very selective in who I worked with, (no zero willpowered bone idle fuckers who want a rep counter)

I would have to find something to do if I stopped working so may as well get paid for it
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 11:06:46 AM
I’ve never understood why someone would voluntarily retire but that’s just me. You retire, maybe travel for a time, see the world (if you choose) then what? I firmly believe the quality of life goes down in many ways.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 29, 2023, 11:16:22 AM
I’ve never understood why someone would voluntarily retire but that’s just me. You retire, maybe travel for a time, see the world (if you choose) then what? I firmly believe the quality of life goes down in many ways.

Not everyone married a rich wife. Near the end of my career I was driving 103 miles to work getting up at 3:30AM.  Hell yes I'm glad to be retired. Work was never my hobby or entertainment. Between working two days a week now, watching the grand daughter and working out my days are filled. We never know how many days we have left. Unless your job is your entertainment, retire and enjoy your life. I have my health issues and so do you. My choice is to retire.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 11:21:10 AM
Not everyone married a rich wife. Near the end of my career I was driving 103 miles to work getting up at 3:30AM.  Hell yes I'm glad to be retired. Work was never my hobby or entertainment. Between working two days a week now, watching the grand daughter and working out my days are filled. We never know how many days we have left. Unless your job is your entertainment, retire and enjoy your life. I have my health issues and so do you. My choice is to retire.

As I said…maybe it’s just me. But you keep right on believing I have a rich wife. She’ll be pleased to know she’s “rich”
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 29, 2023, 11:26:22 AM
As I said…maybe it’s just me. But you keep right on believing I have a rich wife. She’ll be pleased to know she’s “rich”

Sorry, didn't know your wealth was from you. Thought the wife was financing your endeavors from reading the posts here.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 11:46:40 AM
Sorry, didn't know your wealth was from you. Thought the wife was financing your endeavors from reading the posts here.

Wealth? I’ve had businesses most of my adult life. I’m 61. I’ve always said even if I was a billionaire I wouldn’t retire. To ME, it didn’t make sense. I don’t think I know any successful entrepreneurs that truly retire.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 11:49:57 AM
working because you have to and working because you want to are two totally different things

But are you retired?

Warren Buffett still works but doesn't have to.

He doesn't say he's "retired".
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 11:52:48 AM
I understand the concept.

Some people just need something to do.

Nothing wrong with it.

But are you "retired" if you still work?

Yes, you can take a pension from a previous job but if you still work somewhere are you really retired?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Grape Ape on October 29, 2023, 11:53:25 AM
Wealth? I’ve had businesses most of my adult life. I’m 61. I’ve always said even if I was a billionaire I wouldn’t retire. To ME, it didn’t make sense. I don’t think I know any successful entrepreneurs that truly retire.

Your job is also something you love to do.  That will generally help keeping the desire to do it going.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 11:56:46 AM
Your job is also something you love to do.  That will generally help keeping the desire to do it going.

For sure
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 11:57:03 AM
I retired and I worked very part time. I make about 20K with my part time job that comes in handy for stuff like car repairs, appliances breaking and vacation.  I don't touch that money and I let it accumulate to use as needed.  In two years I will have my house paid off and in NJ at 65 you can freeze the outrageous house taxes from increasing. My retirement pension is healthy.

So you need to work.

You are not retired yet.

No problem.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: SF1900 on October 29, 2023, 11:57:51 AM
I'm going to work for Caliber Fitness Solutions when I reach 65.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
I work now, my wife works part time a couple days in a gym on the counter, she is only doing it to help out, she doesnt need the money

I will only be working another 2 years tops, at 60 I can take my pension and leave

The job I do I could also do freelance for the company at a day rate if they wanted me.

I could make a few quid PT at the gym and could be very selective in who I worked with, (no zero willpowered bone idle fuckers who want a rep counter)

I would have to find something to do if I stopped working so may as well get paid for it

So you need to work.

You are not retired.

No problem.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 12:00:29 PM
Your job is also something you love to do.  That will generally help keeping the desire to do it going.

That's fine but you are not retired.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 12:02:06 PM
I'm going to work for Caliber Fitness Solutions when I reach 65.

You will give up being able to say you are retired for Vince.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 12:03:50 PM
Police often exit after 20 years (in their 40s) when they get their pension but still keep working because they need the money.

They are not retired.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on October 29, 2023, 12:04:19 PM
So you need to work.

You are not retired.

No problem.

I could stop work tomorrow if I wanted to, my job is quite enjoyable at times and Im not stuck there because financially we cant manage

The job is easy enough, not long hours, I am essentially my own boss and I get left alone, why give up a well paid job thats a breeze?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 12:05:13 PM


I will only be working another 2 years tops, at 60 I can take my pension and leave

I could stop work tomorrow if I wanted to
, my job is quite enjoyable at times and Im not stuck there because financially we cant manage

The job is easy enough, not long hours, I am essentially my own boss and I get left alone, why give up a well paid job thats a breeze?

You can also keep working until you're 75 being a Walmart greeter.

You could retire but you are not yet retired because you want the pension so you NEED to work.

You're not doing anything wrong.

Report back when you actually retire.

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on October 29, 2023, 12:09:26 PM
You can also keep working until you're 75.

You could retire but you are not yet retired.

You're not doing anything wrong.

Report back when you actually retire.
(https://i.ibb.co/7njs9rX/but-but.png)

PS, I dont NEED the pension, its a bonus, I could take it now if I wanted to
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 12:12:22 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/7njs9rX/but-but.png)

PS, I dont NEED the pension, its a bonus

You must need it or you wouldn't hang in there.

You could reduce your future lifestyle without the pension but you choose not to.

You NEED to work to get the pension.

Regardless, you are not yet retired are you?

Why does not being retired upset you?

It's great to get a pension.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on October 29, 2023, 12:15:14 PM
Regardless, you are not yet retired are you?

Why does not being retired upset you?

It's great to get a pension.
It doesnt upset me, I class myself as semi retired anyway, my job isnt a chore.

Most people hate their jobs, if that were me I would quit and get another

No idea why people go through life doing something every day they hate
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: ThisisOverload on October 29, 2023, 01:11:24 PM
I've never worked a job that i truly loved and owning my own business was a nightmare.

I will hopefully retire around 55 with enough passive income to travel pretty much non-stop.

I absolutely hate working for other people, but it's the easiest way to make a decent living without risk.

When i had my own business, it was non-stop stress and anxiety.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 01:15:33 PM


I absolutely hate working for other people, but it's the easiest way to make a decent living without risk.

When i had my own business, it was non-stop stress and anxiety.

This is 100% true
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2023, 02:36:04 PM
I've never worked a job that i truly loved and owning my own business was a nightmare.

I will hopefully retire around 55 with enough passive income to travel pretty much non-stop.

I absolutely hate working for other people, but it's the easiest way to make a decent living without risk.

When i had my own business, it was non-stop stress and anxiety.


Truth.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 29, 2023, 06:04:34 PM
Wealth? I’ve had businesses most of my adult life. I’m 61. I’ve always said even if I was a billionaire I wouldn’t retire. To ME, it didn’t make sense. I don’t think I know any successful entrepreneurs that truly retire.

What is your business? I know you owned a gym form awhile but you said the lease was lost I believe.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 29, 2023, 06:18:30 PM
Not everyone married a rich wife. Near the end of my career I was driving 103 miles to work getting up at 3:30AM.  Hell yes I'm glad to be retired. Work was never my hobby or entertainment. Between working two days a week now, watching the grand daughter and working out my days are filled. We never know how many days we have left. Unless your job is your entertainment, retire and enjoy your life. I have my health issues and so do you. My choice is to retire.

Didn’t you say in retirement you’re taking home 100k a year? Does that include your part time job? How much were you making during your career?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: CalvinH on October 29, 2023, 06:28:54 PM
I don't want to fully retire when I can.


...I want to work part time at a golf course as a ranger and tell slow golfers to play faster :)
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2023, 06:40:44 PM
What is your business? I know you owned a gym form awhile but you said the lease was lost I believe.

My main source is being part owner in my sons business where its in house merchandise and licensing with 70 employees. Our own apparel company plus my online  nutrition/training platform. I don’t take a salary from my boys company but rather a quarterly dividends.

I’ve had three gym facilities which made us very good living, yes the last one we got screwed over but still came out ahead. We had the opportunity to open another with Kongo and 3 of my NFL client offering to invest $100k each but at that point we were burnt out and decided to not reopen
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Mayday on October 29, 2023, 09:40:22 PM

The inconvenient truth to having such a large mass in an age bracket is it pretty much decimated the multiple generations that followed.

The workforce got utterly fucked for younger generations as people sat in jobs for life.

Then came the unrealistic quality of life expectation in retirement. You can’t do all the things you want unless you burn through your wealth. Yet when you are old you want to preserve wealth, hence you want to continue working. Why? Because travelling 6 times a year requires a salary.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 29, 2023, 11:07:14 PM
The inconvenient truth to having such a large mass in an age bracket is it pretty much decimated the multiple generations that followed.

The workforce got utterly fucked for younger generations as people sat in jobs for life.

Then came the unrealistic quality of life expectation in retirement. You can’t do all the things you want unless you burn through your wealth. Yet when you are old you want to preserve wealth, hence you want to continue working. Why? Because travelling 6 times a year requires a salary.

How have they sat in jobs for life if they’re retired?

In theory there should be an excess of governmental funds because the boomer generation paid into for years while smaller generations withdrew from social security. But as social security is run by the government reality doesn’t matter.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: tacobender on October 29, 2023, 11:22:25 PM
True Adonis nailed it years ago when he said affluent white Democrats regard black people as pets.

I find the boomer generation, on the whole, to be sociopaths who, through token efforts, convince themselves that they're just so goddamn wonderful.
didn’t the true Adonis enjoy his protein shakes straight from the tap? Bigkubby can confirm this oldskool fella .  ;D What happened to him?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 30, 2023, 12:57:27 AM
I have relatives in their 70's who still work simply because they don't know anything else. They have had a slave master their whole lives telling them what to do. It's sad.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dalnet on October 30, 2023, 01:08:06 AM
I always keep busy. I recently semi-retired. However, I've wanted to go into a completely different type of work; and nothing is stopping me at this age doing that, if it's interesting enough. Has to be self employed, though. Within the next few years I'll have retired fully in my 40's. I plan to watch youtube videos to learn things like woodworking and enrol in language lessons, and the like. I was thinking of going into Chemistry as I've always been fascinated by that; yet never really was any good at school, even though I tried. Try to expand my knowledge as much as possible.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 30, 2023, 04:02:34 AM
I don't want to fully retire when I can.


...I want to work part time at a golf course as a ranger and tell slow golfers to play faster :)

That's a good gig.  Plus you get to ride around in a golfcart.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 30, 2023, 04:03:47 AM

Then came the unrealistic quality of life expectation in retirement. You can’t do all the things you want unless you burn through your wealth. Yet when you are old you want to preserve wealth, hence you want to continue working. Why? Because travelling 6 times a year requires a salary.

Logic has no place in this thread.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 30, 2023, 04:05:21 AM
I always keep busy. I recently semi-retired. However, I've wanted to go into a completely different type of work; and nothing is stopping me at this age doing that, if it's interesting enough. Has to be self employed, though. Within the next few years I'll have retired fully in my 40's. I plan to watch youtube videos to learn things like woodworking and enrol in language lessons, and the like. I was thinking of going into Chemistry as I've always been fascinated by that; yet never really was any good at school, even though I tried. Try to expand my knowledge as much as possible.

Get a job with Pfizer making vaccines.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dalnet on October 30, 2023, 04:58:13 AM
Get a job with Pfizer making vaccines.

LOL. I'd rather make meth than work for those asswipes.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 30, 2023, 07:22:12 AM
You are not allowed to say you're "retired" if you still work, dammit.

 >:(
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: bhank on October 30, 2023, 07:30:12 AM
There is a difference between physical labor work where you have to go somewhere and mental work from home on a computer not all work is the same
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Megalodon on October 30, 2023, 08:23:55 AM
If you're self-employed, work out of your house or wherever a laptop can travel, do something that you love, would do it as much as possible anyway even if you weren't paid, an occupation you've always dreamed of doing, that requires skills that separate you from others, that you get lost in, something you're so into that you often get to 3:00 in the afternoon and realized you haven't eaten breakfast yet because you were so into a project, something that defines you, something that only your family takes precedence over.... then retirement isn't even in the picture.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Gym Rat on October 30, 2023, 08:28:29 AM
I want to retire in 5 yrs at 62, and never lift a finger for work again...
Thats my plan at least... (And ive been sitting on my ass at a computer for the last 30 years, physical labor must suck ass)..

(If libtardz dont tank the 401K and financial systems as they tend to do)...

Though a home biz is never out of the question for ones self... Heck, I made 3K this week alone selling 4-pairs of vintage Jackson dumbbells.
And Im surrounded by the crap...  Lots to sell...
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 30, 2023, 09:24:47 AM
I want to retire in 5 yrs at 62, and never lift a finger for work again...
Thats my plan at least... (And ive been sitting on my ass at a computer for the last 30 years, physical labor must suck ass)..

(If libtardz dont tank the 401K and financial systems as they tend to do)...

Though a home biz is never out of the question for ones self... Heck, I made 3K this week alone selling 4-pairs of vintage Jackson dumbbells.
And Im surrounded by the crap...  Lots to sell...

For the most part I work from home. That being said, it’s real easy to get distracted and get off task. But for the online stuff I really don’t need an office and can travel and do most of my work from my phone or iPad. I have two other coaches that I also assign clients too as well.

As for selling stuff, of my Pro friend of mine makes an absolute KILLING going to estate sales and flipping it online. A few years back I went with him to an estate sale at Tom McEwen's (Mongoose from Snake and Mongoose drag racing rivalry) house after he passed and bought a shit ton of memorabilia (framed photos, signed pics 100 vintage Hot Wheels still in their original packages, etc) and made like $5k from it although I kept most of the Hot Wheels.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Gym Rat on October 30, 2023, 09:28:21 AM
For the most part I work from home. That being said, it’s real easy to get distracted and get off task. But for the online stuff I really don’t need an office and can travel and do most of my work from my phone or iPad. I have two other coaches that I also assign clients too as well.

As for selling stuff, of my Pro friend of mine makes an absolute KILLING going to estate sales and flipping it online. A few years back I went with him to an estate sale at Tom McEwen's (Mongoose from Snake and Mongoose drag racing rivalry) house after he passed and bought a shit ton of memorabilia (framed photos, signed pics 100 vintage Hot Wheels still in their original packages, etc) and made like $5k from it although I kept most of the Hot Wheels.

Yes, I guess Im spoiled, working from home for ages... Naps when wanted, etc...   I have a bud who does similar, sells online things he gets from estates, yard sales, etc..
Does very well...
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 30, 2023, 09:55:26 AM
There is a difference between physical labor work where you have to go somewhere and mental work from home on a computer not all work is the same

This is a really deep thought.

Are you saying the physical job you had a Home Depot was more demanding than when you worked the stock exchange with 10 monitors and breaking excel?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: GymnJuice on October 30, 2023, 02:15:47 PM
Depends on the job. If the job is mentally stimulating and you enjoy it then there is good reason not to retire. Some people feel the need to keep going. If they slow down they might not get the mental stimulation and social interactions that prevent some forms of mental aging.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Mayday on October 30, 2023, 04:36:16 PM
Logic has no place in this thread.

LoL 😂

There are things to ponder:

1) The majority plan their retirement around themselves and rarely does family, kids, grandkids get mentioned as a primary thought. Money is primary.

2) when oldies hit 75+ they worry about being put in a home, being sick, frail, nobody to look after them. However, Money and their wealth is still primary.

Is lack of money the problem or is it not factoring in people to build your support network?

So many oldies are ‘bored’ so they simply must fill their day with expensive hobbies…… oh Lordy if only there was some group of people you could live with to keep you busy and provide you with company…..
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 30, 2023, 04:45:26 PM
Police often exit after 20 years (in their 40s) when they get their pension but still keep working because they need the money.

They are not retired.


Cops in NJ retire 25-30 years. Most departments require a college degree and work experience today so the 20 year old rookie is rarity. The only departments today that still have a 20 year retirement in our area is NYC, Federal police jobs like FBI and Port Authority. Robbinsville by you just upped their retirement to 30 years.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 30, 2023, 04:50:26 PM
Logic has no place in this thread.

Well to add to that I will say this:  I'm retarded...But I still want to work.  ;D
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: sync pulse on October 30, 2023, 05:50:55 PM
They're not getting their own money back. That money is gone. It was given to bankers and bomb makers.

I'm sure they like to pretend that their grandchildren aren't footing the bill, but they are. I just want to hear them say it. "I bought in to a corrupt socialist ponzi scheme which the ass is destined to fall right out of, and I'm content to have my grandkids be stuck holding the bag."

Social security is an annuity...not a ponzi scheme...
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 30, 2023, 07:30:43 PM
Well over 50 years ago when I signed up for my Social Security Card there were adults there telling all of us not to expect to ever collect anything if we even made it to retirement age.

They were wrong.   I cannot see the future and neither could those folks.  Do your best to prepare for your future by doing your best in the here and now.  Vote Conservative and always think about what is being said to you by your elected officials and what they actually do.  Talk with your friends and neighbors.  Work hard not woke hard. 

None of us can add a single moment to our life by worrying about it but if all we do is fret over things beyond our control then we can lose so many, many moments that could add to our lives.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 30, 2023, 07:38:59 PM
Well over 50 years ago when I signed up for my Social Security Card there were adults there telling all of us not to expect to ever collect anything if we even made it to retirement age.

They were wrong.   I cannot see the future and neither could those folks.  Do your best to prepare for your future by doing your best in the here and now.  Vote Conservative and always think about what is being said to you by your elected officials and what they actually do.  Talk with your friends and neighbors.  Work hard not woke hard. 

None of us can add a single moment to our life by worrying about it but if all we do is fret over things beyond our control then we can lose so many, many moments that could add to our lives.

Solid advice!!
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 30, 2023, 07:52:58 PM
Solid advice!!

Thanks, brother!   Oddly enough I just gave similar advice to a high school kid this past weekend as a group of them were talking about "boomers" stealing "their future" and how one of them just wanted to "kick a boomer's ass"...Sheesh.

The young man was kind enough to listen to me and when I finished he said he felt better about "his chances" and declined to kick my ass.  I have a sense of humor and knew he was just spouting nonsense.   

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Never1AShow on October 30, 2023, 08:22:42 PM
Well over 50 years ago when I signed up for my Social Security Card there were adults there telling all of us not to expect to ever collect anything if we even made it to retirement age.

They were wrong.   I cannot see the future and neither could those folks.  Do your best to prepare for your future by doing your best in the here and now.  Vote Conservative and always think about what is being said to you by your elected officials and what they actually do.  Talk with your friends and neighbors.  Work hard not woke hard. 

None of us can add a single moment to our life by worrying about it but if all we do is fret over things beyond our control then we can lose so many, many moments that could add to our lives.

Excellent advice!  YOU control your life, or at least YOU affect it far far more than anyone else.  You make the choices, you choose the path.  Do not listen to the fools and weaklings, this is what bodybuilding and life is about.  Refuse to be small!

For all the many, many benefits I got out of the gym and being bitten by the iron bug, the benefits of learning that my own efforts were the determining factor in my life far surpassed anything I gained muscle/strengthwise.   
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2023, 10:54:17 PM

Cops in NJ retire 25-30 years. Most departments require a college degree and work experience today so the 20 year old rookie is rarity. The only departments today that still have a 20 year retirement in our area is NYC, Federal police jobs like FBI and Port Authority. Robbinsville by you just upped their retirement to 30 years.

I think you are right. 20 years is not as common. I saw my department go from 20 years to 23 years. But realistically, the great majority of officers were staying well past 20 years anyway so it didn't change much. I did just under 24. I would likely have done that regardless of whether it was 20 or 23. 
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2023, 11:01:33 PM
I think when to retire is unique to each person as mentioned. I worked with a Lieutenant that at the time was 62 years old, and was battling cancer. He had 40 years on the department and would get a huge pay raise if he retired. But his whole life was wrapped up in his work. It was his identity. And for him, that was the right call. I liked my job when I retired. But I never thought I would continue to work past the point I could afford not to. Just not my thing. Had another co worker hit the Lotto for $51 million after taxes and still continued to work. Made no sense to me but it doesn't have to.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Zillotch on October 30, 2023, 11:42:24 PM
Made no sense to me but it doesn't have to.

words to live by... in your case

should b your life motto
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 31, 2023, 12:16:13 AM
I always saw work as a temporary inconvenience. Retirement was the goal from day 1. I would have retired at 29 if I could have made it.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 31, 2023, 04:13:46 AM

Cops in NJ retire 25-30 years. Most departments require a college degree and work experience today so the 20 year old rookie is rarity. The only departments today that still have a 20 year retirement in our area is NYC, Federal police jobs like FBI and Port Authority. Robbinsville by you just upped their retirement to 30 years.

Good to know.  Thanks.

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dalnet on October 31, 2023, 04:15:40 AM
If you're self-employed, work out of your house or wherever a laptop can travel, do something that you love, would do it as much as possible anyway even if you weren't paid, an occupation you've always dreamed of doing, that requires skills that separate you from others, that you get lost in, something you're so into that you often get to 3:00 in the afternoon and realized you haven't eaten breakfast yet because you were so into a project, something that defines you, something that only your family takes precedence over.... then retirement isn't even in the picture.

That's what bodybuilding was supposed to represent in my life. :)
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 31, 2023, 04:36:14 AM
My goal was always to create income by putting money to work.

First you work for your money, then your money works for you.

Otherwise you never get off the hamster wheel.

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 05:21:05 AM
Social security is an annuity...not a ponzi scheme...

If you receive it, I will never be able to convince you that it's bad.

But it requires at least as much revenue as it dispenses in order not to collapse, plus administrative costs. And that assumes it's run properly and not simply plundered at will to fund useless nonsense, which tax revenue invariably is.

Not to mention the moral hazard of enabling profligate living, in the knowledge that someone else's money will be made available. Or that greater tax burdens disincentivise workers. Or the usual socialist assumption that we're all in it together and the department of central planning should be in charge.

In summation, FDR was a putz and his New Deal agenda was yet another which just so happened to massively increase government size and power, and decrease individual choice and personal responsibility., which is how we have arrived at our current predicament.



Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 31, 2023, 05:31:21 AM


In summation, FDR was a putz and his New Deal agenda was yet another which just so happened to massively increase government size and power, and decrease individual choice and personal responsibility., which is how we have arrived at our current predicament.

It’s interesting because in the US we are critical of how the government handles the poor/homeless issue for its citizens (many of which need mental health services) but then on the other hand we criticize the very system we have to help our elderly stay afloat….. sometimes you can’t win.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Never1AShow on October 31, 2023, 05:41:48 AM
People who keep working at a day job when they don't have to are sad.  Nothing in their outside lives, probably no friends either.  I have a million things I could do and like to do other than be a slave to the man.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 05:47:00 AM
It’s interesting because in the US we are critical of how the government handles the poor/homeless issue for its citizens (many of which need mental health services) but then on the other hand we criticize the very system we have to help our elderly stay afloat….. sometimes you can’t win.

The reason you're overrun with flakes, loonies, and addicts is precisely because of the system which subsidizes them and their creation.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Flexacon on October 31, 2023, 06:07:37 AM
It's a lot easier to deal with working and work related stress if you know you don't actually need the job and can quit any time.

Suddenly you feel like you're made out of Teflon. You can call out assholes and asshole behaviour at work, help make your work friends jobs easier and then go home and chill without stressing about the next day.

So yeah working when you can afford retirement can be far more enjoyable experience.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 31, 2023, 06:17:50 AM
When will these boomers just go away. I swear, I’ve waited two decades for them to leave my places of work, and I’m finally at a place in which I guess there are five full-time boomers. A few “retired” but still work part time or have their fingers in something.

I yearned for a day in which there were no boomers present in meetings. Sometimes I look around the room and feel such content from there being only Gen X’ers and Millenials present.

The eternal boomer.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Sissysquats on October 31, 2023, 06:28:15 AM
They're not getting their own money back. That money is gone. It was given to bankers and bomb makers.

I'm sure they like to pretend that their grandchildren aren't footing the bill, but they are. I just want to hear them say it. "I bought in to a corrupt socialist ponzi scheme which the ass is destined to fall right out of, and I'm content to have my grandkids be stuck holding the bag."

  If you live and work in the usa most don’t have a choice whether they pay into SS. So while they are getting more than they paid in, they have no choice, so no one owes you a thank you or an acknowledgement
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 31, 2023, 06:36:43 AM
When will these boomers just go away. I swear, I’ve waited two decades for them to leave my places of work, and I’m finally at a place in which I guess there are five full-time boomers. A few “retired” but still work part time or have their fingers in something.

I yearned for a day in which there were no boomers present in meetings. Sometimes I look around the room and feel such content from there being only Gen X’ers and Millenials present.

The eternal boomer.

Just take care of yourself and don't worry about some 62 year old.

Someday you will be 62.

Save and invest wisely for your future.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 31, 2023, 06:41:24 AM
The reason you're overrun with flakes, loonies, and addicts is precisely because of the system which subsidizes them and their creation.

I’m not arguing, I feel you nailed the FDR assessment, I just don’t know what’s a better option.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 31, 2023, 06:42:10 AM
Just take care of yourself and don't worry about some 62 year old.

Someday you will be 62.

Save and invest wisely for your future.

Thank you. I’m working on it.

I know this take on boomers is not normal and might be due to coincidental unpleasant experiences with them.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 31, 2023, 06:58:00 AM
Thank you. I’m working on it.

I know this take on boomers is not normal and might be due to coincidental unpleasant experiences with them.

From my personal experience most of us are quite normal.  We tend to be Conservative  and having lived through the bullshit of the '60s hippy shit has made us more so. We are for America and her Citizens First and fuck the turd worlder shitizens.

I have worked throughout my life for myself, my family and even my friends. I have dealt with enough weirdos over the decades to know that if I can avoid interacting with them I do just that.    I love my Nation and despise those that would spit upon the flag and all it stands for.

All the while kneeling during our Anthem.  Fuck the NFL.  Fuck woke.  Fuck Hollyweird.  Fuck islime. Fuck the lazy WETF Generations that refuse to work and think they are owed a good time.   Not every so-called "boomer" is like me but more are than are not.  I  knew more than a few of the aptly named "Greatest Generation" and believe me, they were my role model for work ethic and more.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on October 31, 2023, 07:01:24 AM
From my personal experience most of us are quite normal.  We tend to be Conservative  and having lived through the bullshit of the '60s hippy shit has made us more so. We are for America and her Citizens First and fuck the turd worlder shitizens.

I have worked throughout my life for myself, my family and even my friends. I have dealt with enough weirdos over the decades to know that if I can avoid interacting with them I do just that.    I love my Nation and despise those that would spit upon the flag and all it stands for.

All the while kneeling during our Anthem.  Fuck the NFL.  Fuck woke.  Fuck Hollyweird.  Fuck islime. Fuck the lazy WETF Generations that refuse to work and think they are owed a good time.   Not every so-called "boomer" is like me but more are than are not.  I  knew more than a few of the aptly named "Greatest Generation" and believe me, they were my role model for work ethic and more.

God bless you, Mr. Scott.

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Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 31, 2023, 07:02:12 AM
God bless you, Mr. Scott.

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And you as well, Sir Nat!
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 07:17:56 AM
I’m not arguing, I feel you nailed the FDR assessment, I just don’t know what’s a better option.

YES YOU ARRRERRERRGH!!!!

Idk. I'd stop paying Shaniqua to breed before I'd stop paying grandpa but jesus who isn't getting a handout from the zookeeper these days.

I would have let all the banks fail in 08 but wtf do I know maybe it would have been civilizational collapse and 30 years of cannibalism.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 31, 2023, 07:36:58 AM
YES YOU ARRRERRERRGH!!!!

Idk. I'd stop paying Shaniqua to breed before I'd stop paying grandpa but jesus who isn't getting a handout from the zookeeper these days.

I would have let all the banks fail in 08 but wtf do I know maybe it would have been civilizational collapse and 30 years of cannibalism.

LOL I am dumb you are right I was arguing…… what I meant was I understand your point but what are our options?

I dont think of Social security and the welfare program as the same even though the idea behind both is the same. Reform is needed but the government loves having this type of control.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 07:50:08 AM
LOL I am dumb you are right I was arguing…… what I meant was I understand your point but what are our options?

I dont think of Social security and the welfare program as the same even though the idea behind both is the same. Reform is needed but the government loves having this type of control.

All the friction is over scarce resource allocation. I say we depopulate through various means down to about 500 million.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on October 31, 2023, 07:52:13 AM
All the friction is over scarce resource allocation. I say we depopulate through various means down to about 500 million.
as long as we kill you first, you OK with that?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: bhank on October 31, 2023, 07:53:33 AM
It's a lot easier to deal with working and work related stress if you know you don't actually need the job and can quit any time.

Suddenly you feel like you're made out of Teflon. You can call out assholes and asshole behaviour at work, help make your work friends jobs easier and then go home and chill without stressing about the next day.

So yeah working when you can afford retirement can be far more enjoyable experience.

This
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 07:56:30 AM
as long as we kill you first, you OK with that?

You're gonna have to come up with something better than a vaccine and a 15 minute city to catch this one, squire.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 31, 2023, 08:29:16 AM
All the friction is over scarce resource allocation. I say we depopulate through various means down to about 500 million.

When was the last time the population was 500 million and what were the technological advances that were made at that time?

How do you determine who is in the 500 million? Is it iq based or is there genetic testing done? After the population is established how is it maintained? Are people euthanized after a certain age?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2023, 09:09:35 AM
When was the last time the population was 500 million and what were the technological advances that were made at that time?

How do you determine who is in the 500 million? Is it iq based or is there genetic testing done? After the population is established how is it maintained? Are people euthanized after a certain age?

You have many questions, friend.

Rest assured. It's all been worked out by the experts.

You're clearly top 5%. I'm certain you'll be on the ark.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on October 31, 2023, 09:20:29 AM
You have many questions, friend.

Rest assured. It's all been worked out by the experts.

You're clearly top 5%. I'm certain you'll be on the ark.

LOL!

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Mayday on October 31, 2023, 01:12:17 PM
When was the last time the population was 500 million and what were the technological advances that were made at that time?

How do you determine who is in the 500 million? Is it iq based or is there genetic testing done? After the population is established how is it maintained? Are people euthanized after a certain age?

Pre oil era

Went from living in caves to coal power plants and electric cars.

You don’t get killed you simply don’t breed which creates mass depopulation over 200yrs.
You make young people all gay and trans so they can’t breed.
200yrs from now likely govt controlled and being a parent is a govt paid job.
Nobody is killed to maintain population
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 31, 2023, 01:16:30 PM
You have many questions, friend.

Rest assured. It's all been worked out by the experts.

You're clearly top 5%. I'm certain you'll be on the ark.

Looks like I'm gonna miss the Ark.  Again.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: pamith on October 31, 2023, 01:19:56 PM
Bro...
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Lartinos on October 31, 2023, 01:23:33 PM
When was the last time the population was 500 million and what were the technological advances that were made at that time?

How do you determine who is in the 500 million? Is it iq based or is there genetic testing done? After the population is established how is it maintained? Are people euthanized after a certain age?

No, they actually prefer the dumb ones stay alive.
Eugenics today is not about a master race but a control method.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on October 31, 2023, 03:37:50 PM
Looks like I'm gonna miss the Ark.  Again.
Ask Wes about it, he was on the first one


Sorry Wes.    ;D
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: The Scott on October 31, 2023, 05:51:30 PM
Ask Wes about it, he was on the first one


Sorry Wes.    ;D

He got on before me cuz he had a date!   ;D   I couldn't get a date because I'm not at all as handsome, trust me.  ;D  Wes is The Man!
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Earl1972 on October 31, 2023, 10:52:35 PM
don't know why anybody would want to work forever, unless they are truly passionate about their work which i would bet 90% of people are not

time is your most valuable asset, no amount of money buys back time but when you work you are trading time for money, i'd rather be a broke 20 year old than a billionaire 70 year old

i think people that say they are bored in retirement and then come back to work are just too embarrassed to admit they need the money, you don't have hobbies to entertain you?  you don't have friends and family you would rather spend time with than the annoying and gossiping coworkers or asshole boss?  you would really rather greet strangers at wal mart than watch a movie or take a walk in the park?  do paperwork over going fishing?

it's different if you're the one in charge making a lot of money, and you're a workaholic that needs to stay busy and you consider everything else to be a waste of time, but most people are just trading time for money and don't want to admit they didn't make wise decisions with their money

E
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 01, 2023, 12:50:06 AM
don't know why anybody would want to work forever, unless they are truly passionate about their work which i would bet 90% of people are not

time is your most valuable asset, no amount of money buys back time but when you work you are trading time for money, i'd rather be a broke 20 year old than a billionaire 70 year old

i think people that say they are bored in retirement and then come back to work are just too embarrassed to admit they need the money, you don't have hobbies to entertain you?  you don't have friends and family you would rather spend time with than the annoying and gossiping coworkers or asshole boss?  you would really rather greet strangers at wal mart than watch a movie or take a walk in the park?  do paperwork over going fishing?

it's different if you're the one in charge making a lot of money, and you're a workaholic that needs to stay busy and you consider everything else to be a waste of time, but most people are just trading time for money and don't want to admit they didn't make wise decisions with their money

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It's a cope.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on November 01, 2023, 03:54:11 AM
don't know why anybody would want to work forever, unless they are truly passionate about their work which i would bet 90% of people are not

time is your most valuable asset, no amount of money buys back time but when you work you are trading time for money, i'd rather be a broke 20 year old than a billionaire 70 year old

i think people that say they are bored in retirement and then come back to work are just too embarrassed to admit they need the money, you don't have hobbies to entertain you?  you don't have friends and family you would rather spend time with than the annoying and gossiping coworkers or asshole boss?  you would really rather greet strangers at wal mart than watch a movie or take a walk in the park?  do paperwork over going fishing?

it's different if you're the one in charge making a lot of money, and you're a workaholic that needs to stay busy and you consider everything else to be a waste of time, but most people are just trading time for money and don't want to admit they didn't make wise decisions with their money

E


Yep.

A few people really enjoy what they do and can get paid to do it.  You see lawyers for example who work until they drop because they like it or you have a guy like Warren Buffett who loves what he does.

For these people their work is an enjoyable hobby.

Most of us trade our time for money.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: wes on November 01, 2023, 03:59:29 AM
Ask Wes about it, he was on the first one


Sorry Wes.    ;D
>:(





;D
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: wes on November 01, 2023, 04:00:18 AM
He got on before me cuz he had a date!   ;D   I couldn't get a date because I'm not at all as handsome, trust me.  ;D  Wes is The Man!
:D
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Gym Rat on November 01, 2023, 05:30:53 AM
You can always bounce some checks like the shitter...  ::) ::)

F**k working...

i=2AwvTOxIuDpBhJRI
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on November 01, 2023, 05:38:22 AM
That Joe...what a card he is. 
Just an ordinary guy like us.  ^
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Never1AShow on November 01, 2023, 07:26:33 AM
No, they actually prefer the dumb ones stay alive.
Eugenics today is not about a master race but a control method.

Why 500 million then?  You don’t need anywhere that many for labor to serve the 5 million
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Never1AShow on November 01, 2023, 07:29:49 AM
don't know why anybody would want to work forever, unless they are truly passionate about their work which i would bet 90% of people are not

time is your most valuable asset, no amount of money buys back time but when you work you are trading time for money, i'd rather be a broke 20 year old than a billionaire 70 year old

i think people that say they are bored in retirement and then come back to work are just too embarrassed to admit they need the money, you don't have hobbies to entertain you?  you don't have friends and family you would rather spend time with than the annoying and gossiping coworkers or asshole boss?  you would really rather greet strangers at wal mart than watch a movie or take a walk in the park?  do paperwork over going fishing?

it's different if you're the one in charge making a lot of money, and you're a workaholic that needs to stay busy and you consider everything else to be a waste of time, but most people are just trading time for money and don't want to admit they didn't make wise decisions with their money

E

Lots of time there’s ego stroking involved. At work they are a boss and respected big deal. At home they’re just another old dude.

Their wives get all the excess SS and money anyway because they’re the ones that outlive them 10-20 years.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Dave D on November 01, 2023, 07:34:38 AM
Interesting concept that you’re trading time for money, you shouldn’t be working for someone you should be running your own business.

For nearly all of human history people struggled working just to survive. The last couple of generations have allowed us to think differently about life than almost everyone who has ever lived.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Flexacon on November 01, 2023, 07:44:52 AM
i think people that say they are bored in retirement and then come back to work are just too embarrassed to admit they need the money, you don't have hobbies to entertain you?  you don't have friends and family you would rather spend time with than the annoying and gossiping coworkers or asshole boss?  you would really rather greet strangers at wal mart than watch a movie or take a walk in the park?  do paperwork over going fishing?

Some people keep working to stay busy/shift their focus from their personal lives to something different because they don't like being left alone for long periods of time with just their thoughts.

Others are just unable to relax, hang out, have fun with hobbies and kill time. Stagnation like that is their idea of hell.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Earl1972 on November 04, 2023, 07:52:29 PM
Interesting concept that you’re trading time for money, you shouldn’t be working for someone you should be running your own business.

For nearly all of human history people struggled working just to survive. The last couple of generations have allowed us to think differently about life than almost everyone who has ever lived.

everybody wants to be in charge until they realize you often have to work at least twice as many hours and have 10 times the responsibility as a normal full time employee

not to mention it takes brains, balls, and leadership skills to start something from the ground up and turning it into a success

it's not for everybody to say the least

E
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Earl1972 on November 04, 2023, 07:56:15 PM
Some people keep working to stay busy/shift their focus from their personal lives to something different because they don't like being left alone for long periods of time with just their thoughts.

Others are just unable to relax, hang out, have fun with hobbies and kill time. Stagnation like that is their idea of hell.

i guess so, an idle mind is the devils playground as they say

i think some people are drama queens, they need chaos or else they are bored

E
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Mayday on November 04, 2023, 08:33:43 PM
You're gonna have to come up with something better than a vaccine and a 15 minute city to catch this one, squire.

Daily sepository the size of a small apple and a 14 minute city.

Checkmate
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: honest on November 04, 2023, 09:20:18 PM
I will never retire, just trying to get my business to run under management day to day so I don't have to do the daily grind, and can come and go as I please, been a 25 year journey and a ten year plan, as long as im prepared to lose money each time im away that I wouldn't if I was there, it can be done, but no other way and I consider my people to be well paid and doing a pretty good job, but no one will ever run your business like you do, its a simple fact, other fact step away and they start to think the success is due to them rather than the position they inherited  :).   But work till you drop, even if its part time or less, it will help you stay above ground and have money to enjoy.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Matt on November 04, 2023, 10:17:34 PM
I never understood the gripe "I'm on a fixed income."

It's fixed. Guaranteed. You do jack shit and the government hands you other people's money. What's the problem exactly, you geriatric parasite?

If you don't need the money then do some boomer shit. Mentor a negro. Vote Democrat. Learn to use a computer.

Are you talking about the senior's pension?

Flexacon gave the figures for the UK. I can't remember what it was....maybe £760 monthly. Bertil Fox gets this.  ;D

Tapeworm, just one question:
I get what you're saying about welfare grabbers. The free shit army. But aren't senior pensions somewhat different?

In Canada, as far as I am aware, no one can opt out of a senior's pension. So...how can you blame them for getting a free check in the mail?

Do you think I want to live under a free healthcare system? I loathe the notion of not paying my own way.

But I don't have a choice in that. So...what can I do? I buy a little extra private American insurance, and leave it at that.

Not much I can do about that.

So can you expand on your issues with senior's on a fixed income, Tapeworm? Are you referring to the ones on welfare all their lives before getting it?

Some have paid into the system their whole lives and used zero. Is it so bad they get some of their money back? But I may have misunderstood you.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Matt on November 04, 2023, 10:23:29 PM
I will never retire, just trying to get my business to run under management day to day so I don't have to do the daily grind, and can come and go as I please, been a 25 year journey and a ten year plan, as long as im prepared to lose money each time im away that I wouldn't if I was there, it can be done, but no other way and I consider my people to be well paid and doing a pretty good job, but no one will ever run your business like you do, its a simple fact, other fact step away and they start to think the success is due to them rather than the position they inherited  :).   But work till you drop, even if its part time or less, it will help you stay above ground and have money to enjoy.

It's hard to find good help. No one will be as invested in your business as you, the owner.

A friend of mine owns a restaurant in town called "The Sovereign Room". Your trajectory sounds a lot like his. And he has managed to get things working out the way you want to.

honest - did the fake pandemic screw you over at all, business-wide?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: honest on November 05, 2023, 01:38:46 AM
Not really construction the industry I work in was considered essential, and enough of my staff chose to vaccinate so I could hide enough of the ones who decided not too vaccinate, there was no way I was going to make them vaccinate, even though I did for work purposes,non MRNA, a lot of government sites we work on it was mandatory, no one lost their jobs or got sent home. Its been tough since the pandemic though, lots of builders going broke, shortages of labor, loss of productivity, massive inflation on building products, been really tough to manage, lots of bad debts. The world is never going back to normal, and none of it has anything to do with the virus. IMO they used the situation like they use climate race feminism and any other cause or catastrophe to just bring down capitalism, and push their Big Business big government angle or corporate socialism as I call it.

It's hard to find good help. No one will be as invested in your business as you, the owner.

A friend of mine owns a restaurant in town called "The Sovereign Room". Your trajectory sounds a lot like his. And he has managed to get things working out the way you want to.

honest - did the fake pandemic screw you over at all, business-wide?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Rmj11 on November 05, 2023, 01:49:36 AM
Early retirement is 👍
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: IroNat on November 05, 2023, 04:48:05 AM
A "fixed income" by definition is fixed and does not increase or decrease.

Therefore it does not keep pace with rising prices due to inflation.

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Rmj11 on November 05, 2023, 05:08:09 AM
Not really construction the industry I work in was considered essential, and enough of my staff chose to vaccinate so I could hide enough of the ones who decided not too vaccinate, there was no way I was going to make them vaccinate, even though I did for work purposes,non MRNA, a lot of government sites we work on it was mandatory, no one lost their jobs or got sent home. Its been tough since the pandemic though, lots of builders going broke, shortages of labor, loss of productivity, massive inflation on building products, been really tough to manage, lots of bad debts. The world is never going back to normal, and none of it has anything to do with the virus. IMO they used the situation like they use climate race feminism and any other cause or catastrophe to just bring down capitalism, and push their Big Business big government angle or corporate socialism as I call it.

What you describe is actually capitalism in action. Nothing to do with socialism. 😆 🤣 😂
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: keanu on November 05, 2023, 06:24:33 AM
There is only so much time and energy to go around each day. I'm just not willing to spend it mostly at work, come home to recover, sleep and do it over again if I don't have to. As a guy that works around 50 hours a week (down from 60-75 back in my 20s and 30s) I can afford to retire early and focus on other things besides work. Managing investments, daily chores, reading, various hobbies, daily workouts, having a nightlife, attending more events, projects that I keep putting off, and more social things. Forget about living for just vacations and weekends.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Tapeworm on November 05, 2023, 07:15:19 AM
Are you talking about the senior's pension?

Flexacon gave the figures for the UK. I can't remember what it was....maybe £760 monthly. Bertil Fox gets this.  ;D

Tapeworm, just one question:
I get what you're saying about welfare grabbers. The free shit army. But aren't senior pensions somewhat different?

In Canada, as far as I am aware, no one can opt out of a senior's pension. So...how can you blame them for getting a free check in the mail?

Do you think I want to live under a free healthcare system? I loathe the notion of not paying my own way.

But I don't have a choice in that. So...what can I do? I buy a little extra private American insurance, and leave it at that.

Not much I can do about that.

So can you expand on your issues with senior's on a fixed income, Tapeworm? Are you referring to the ones on welfare all their lives before getting it?

Some have paid into the system their whole lives and used zero. Is it so bad they get some of their money back? But I may have misunderstood you.

They complain that the amount of other people's money that they receive is insufficient.

What the hell have they been doing for the last 80 years that this famous 'pension' is something they absolutely require?

I confess that I'm a little stone-hearted when it comes to the boomers because, on the whole, they're a bunch of shitlib normies who think Hillary is wonderful. And more than a few of them busted my chops during the Great Vaccination Purge.

So the fact that I'm content to let the same fate befall them that they wished upon me might color my analysis somewhat. Doesn't change the fact that socialization of income and wealth redistribution by government order is outright communism. You work and they decide what you can keep and what they give to someone who didn't earn it.

I understand that you want to make an argument along the lines of 'They paid in so they should get paid out. It's justice.'

It isn't justice. It's socialism. And they went along with it all their lives so they ought to be the ones to take it in the ass, but they'd rather force the programs they supported on you. That's how socialism works.

We're not all in this together. And that's actually good news.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Rmj11 on November 05, 2023, 07:50:34 AM
I will never retire, just trying to get my business to run under management day to day so I don't have to do the daily grind, and can come and go as I please, been a 25 year journey and a ten year plan, as long as im prepared to lose money each time im away that I wouldn't if I was there, it can be done, but no other way and I consider my people to be well paid and doing a pretty good job, but no one will ever run your business like you do, its a simple fact, other fact step away and they start to think the success is due to them rather than the position they inherited  :).   But work till you drop, even if its part time or less, it will help you stay above ground and have money to enjoy.

Quite wrong there.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on November 05, 2023, 08:00:43 AM
I will never retire, just trying to get my business to run under management day to day so I don't have to do the daily grind, and can come and go as I please, been a 25 year journey and a ten year plan, as long as im prepared to lose money each time im away that I wouldn't if I was there, it can be done, but no other way and I consider my people to be well paid and doing a pretty good job, but no one will ever run your business like you do, its a simple fact, other fact step away and they start to think the success is due to them rather than the position they inherited  :).   But work till you drop, even if its part time or less, it will help you stay above ground and have money to enjoy.
procrastination of peace
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: honest on November 05, 2023, 02:35:29 PM
What you describe is actually capitalism in action. Nothing to do with socialism. 😆 🤣 😂
.

Government controlled monopolies or oligopolies in most industrial sectors, scale up and partner up and you will see it, I partner with multi nationals, what im trying to say I guess is traditional capitalism is gone, the same mechanism I used to grow my way out of poverty or a very humble starting point with hardwork and reinvesting everything in the business,is gone, globalisation brought about scale and low margin equaling a capital requirement  that can never be achieved the same way I initially grew.  Corporate socialism isn't socialism its not being in control of your own destiny, you are dependant on the multi national partner, who determines how much they will allow you to earn, the multi national is dependant on the government regulated market ensuring their position and allowing them or assisting them in denying entry and diluting markets, globalisation IMO was the end of traditional capitalism, corporates and governments control markets, theres nothing free about that. Rise up or try and ask for too much and your gone, still beats old fashioned socialism but lets not pretend its traditional capitalism either, if you dont have a good start in 2023 best you will do is get a high paying job in government or a large corporate business.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: joswift on November 05, 2023, 02:37:05 PM
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Government controlled monopolies or oligopolies in most industrial sectors, scale up and partner up and you will see it, I partner with multi nationals, what im trying to say I guess is traditional capitalism is gone, the same mechanism I used to grow my way out of poverty or a very humble starting point with hardwork and reinvesting everything in the business,is gone, globalisation brought about scale and low margin equaling a capital requirement  that can never be achieved the same way I initially grew.  Corporate socialism isn't socialism its not being in control of your own destiny, you are dependant on the multi national partner, who determines how much they will allow you to earn, the multi national is dependant on the government regulated market ensuring their position and allowing them or assisting them in denying entry and diluting markets, globalisation IMO was the end of traditional capitalism, corporates and governments control markets, theres nothing free about that. Rise up or try and ask for too much and your gone, still beats old fashioned socialism but lets not pretend its traditional capitalism either, if you dont have a good start in 2023 best you will do is get a high paying job in government or a large corporate business.
Paragraphs?
Has Hankins hacked your account?
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: delon on November 05, 2023, 07:38:51 PM
I nominally "retired" a couple of years back, but after the inital sugar high of complete freedom and marking off of some long held To Do's found that a vague malaise subtly began encroaching, most notably late afternoons in a lull between being active during the day and the evening. And 'hobbies' just weren't filling the gap. I hadnt yet reached Matt frontal lobe head shave haircut levels on the reaction curve but a trend was emerging. So have now returned to part time consulting and am all the better for it mentally and actually enjoying my non-working days to a greater degree

Everyone is different but speaking strictly for myself it took having no deadlines, no career purpose, no business-based mental stimulation, no set structure etc in my day to realise I thrive on that and need it, at least to some degree (hence part time). In addition being late 40s is too young, at least for me

Might give it another go in 5 or 10 years and see whether the inevitable cognitive and energy-level declines render it more amenable

Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Matt on November 05, 2023, 11:25:24 PM
Not really construction the industry I work in was considered essential, and enough of my staff chose to vaccinate so I could hide enough of the ones who decided not too vaccinate, there was no way I was going to make them vaccinate, even though I did for work purposes,non MRNA, a lot of government sites we work on it was mandatory, no one lost their jobs or got sent home. Its been tough since the pandemic though, lots of builders going broke, shortages of labor, loss of productivity, massive inflation on building products, been really tough to manage, lots of bad debts. The world is never going back to normal, and none of it has anything to do with the virus. IMO they used the situation like they use climate race feminism and any other cause or catastrophe to just bring down capitalism, and push their Big Business big government angle or corporate socialism as I call it.

Glad you didn't get screwed over too much there, honest.

It makes me grateful to own my home. At this point, it would take a communist takeover to screw things up for me. But after everything you said there, I don't rule that out. Could it happen, where my home - where all of our homes - are seized by the state?

It's not impossible. After the pandemic bullshit, I don't rule anything out.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Matt on November 05, 2023, 11:32:15 PM
What you describe is actually capitalism in action. Nothing to do with socialism. 😆 🤣 😂

State intervention is "capitalism"?

I think honest is talking about free markets. And it seems like any system we implement eventually devolve into government intervention.

The problem with socialism, is the system literally starts with the government controlling everything.

Also, if you are a socialist, why would you be complaining about government controlling everything under capitalism, and doling out money to business cronies?

That's what socialism is. That's the system socialists want - government controlling everything. Well, what do you think happens under socialism?

The very same things you are complaining about under capitalism.

But call it what it is:
Free markets versus central planning.

Free markets are always better. The historical record on this is crystal clear.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Matt on November 05, 2023, 11:36:17 PM
They complain that the amount of other people's money that they receive is insufficient.

What the hell have they been doing for the last 80 years that this famous 'pension' is something they absolutely require?

I confess that I'm a little stone-hearted when it comes to the boomers because, on the whole, they're a bunch of shitlib normies who think Hillary is wonderful. And more than a few of them busted my chops during the Great Vaccination Purge.

So the fact that I'm content to let the same fate befall them that they wished upon me might color my analysis somewhat. Doesn't change the fact that socialization of income and wealth redistribution by government order is outright communism. You work and they decide what you can keep and what they give to someone who didn't earn it.

I understand that you want to make an argument along the lines of 'They paid in so they should get paid out. It's justice.'

It isn't justice. It's socialism. And they went along with it all their lives so they ought to be the ones to take it in the ass, but they'd rather force the programs they supported on you. That's how socialism works.

We're not all in this together. And that's actually good news.

I agree with you on most of this.

My dad turns 65 next month. I think Canada's senior pension is something like $718 CAD monthly [$526 USD].

I can assure you, my dad could get triple that for the next 20 years, and he wouldn't get the money back in taxes.

I agree with you - it's socialism. And most boomers are shit-libs, from what I can tell. But do I mind my dad getting a portion of the money the government stole from him back? Not really.

The walking vessels lining up at food banks getting literally $100,000 per year in government services and contributing nothing...these people piss me off.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: Mayday on November 05, 2023, 11:39:25 PM
Glad you didn't get screwed over too much there, honest.

It makes me grateful to own my home. At this point, it would take a communist takeover to screw things up for me. But after everything you said there, I don't rule that out. Could it happen, where my home - where all of our homes - are seized by the state?

It's not impossible. After the pandemic bullshit, I don't rule anything out.

Think of how it can happen. Then you know how and estimate probability.

In our lifetime? No.  Property taxes, council rates, water and power. Many homes have 2-3 people in them instead of 5-6. So you look at carrying costs and squeeE so that 5-6 people are needed to afford it.
Title: Re: I'm Retired But Want to Work Still.
Post by: GymnJuice on November 06, 2023, 05:06:57 AM
Think of how it can happen. Then you know how and estimate probability.

In our lifetime? No.  Property taxes, council rates, water and power. Many homes have 2-3 people in them instead of 5-6. So you look at carrying costs and squeeE so that 5-6 people are needed to afford it.

Was going to post something like this. They can always make it more difficult to own and maintain a home through taxes and forced utilities.

Some places throw a bone. They'll "freeze" city property taxes if you're over 65. But that's peanuts compared to overall costs.