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6'1" buck 47 with a deadly overhand right 8)
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Of all time or currently?
So many favorites from history.
Roberto Duran
Eder Jofre
Khaosai Galaxy
Harry Greb
Stanly Ketchel
Joe Louis
Wilfredo Gomez
Azumah Nelson, Salvador Sanchez,
Carlos Monzon
Marvin Hagler
MikecCallum
Just way too many to list.
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Of all time or currently?
So many favorites from history.
Roberto Duran
Eder Jofre
Khaosai Galaxy
Harry Greb
Stanly Ketchel
Joe Louis
Wilfredo Gomez
Azumah Nelson, Salvador Sanchez,
Carlos Monzon
Marvin Hagler
MikecCallum
Just way too many to list.
hagler infuriates me think you know why
joe louis=great soul love this man 8) 8) 8)
don't like duran but yep he was something special
holmes had an awful physique but probably the best jab EVER
this dude gets honorable mention
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flick that shit out there Holmes style 8)
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I see Wilder versus Zhang has been announced.
Who do you guys like in that one?
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I see Wilder versus Zhang has been announced.
Who do you guys like in that one?
i predict wilder's overhand right but put him in dreamland
good night sweet prince
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It's clearly Clegg for me
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I see Wilder versus Zhang has been announced.
Who do you guys like in that one?
Interesting how styles make fights. It will be whoever lands first. Zhang is ginormous.. it won't be like Parker, Zhang will be there to get hit and if Wilder lands , Zhang could be in trouble
But Zhang is also physically strong if he lays on Wilder the way Fury did or lands on wilder the way parker did....wilders career will be over. People thought Wilder was going to beat Parker but Parker had the right style AND was the best fighter Wilder fought , with the exception of Fury.
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All time:
Julian Jackson
Marvin Hagler
Alexis Arguello
Manny Pacquiao
Currently:
Naoya Inoue
Artur Beterbiev
David Benavidez
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All time:
Julian Jackson
Marvin Hagler
Alexis Arguello
Manny Pacquiao
Currently:
Naoya Inoue
Artur Beterbiev
David Benavidez
Alexis Arguello 8) 8) 8)
forgot bout him
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Yep,
Julian Jackson was so much fun to watch
Arguello....
Cabt believe i forgot Aaron Pryor earlier....easily one of my all time favorites.
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Growing up in the 80's it was Tyson and Hagler.
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Yep,
Julian Jackson was so much fun to watch
Arguello....
Cabt believe i forgot Aaron Pryor earlier....easily one of my all time favorites.
yep Pryor was something special
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Ray Leonard
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Fury. Rarely a boring fight with him.
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Ali: He just fought too long. Also he lost almost 4 of his best years when he was banned.
Frazier: He was Tyson before Tyson. The fights he had with Ali ruined him. He beat a prime of his life Ali.
Norton: Him and Frazier are probably responsible for Ali's brain damage.
Foreman: Just a wrecking machine. In his lost to Ali he looked almost drugged and slow. Just a really bad day for him.
Marciano: He was a light heavy and Cruiser weight but fought heavyweights. Every time a white man bring up boxing he pulls Rocky Marciano out of his ass.
Hearns: His power was unreal. One of the hardest punchers of all time.
Duran: He was just a mean vicious prick. His undoing was the partying life style and the rumors of drugs.
Hagler: Grew up in the mean streets of Newark, NJ. I still say he is undefeated. Fuck Leonard and his running against him.
Leonard: Got to give him respect for all the wins he had.
Holmes: Never ducked anyone. He is never ranked highly because he made it look easy. Always fought the best available. Learned how to fight from being Ali's sparring partner.
Archie Moore: Maybe the most knockouts in history. Fought during a time where he would fight sometimes once or twice a month trying to make a pay check.
Sugar Ray Robinson: Speed and skill. Say no more.
So many more. If I would be completely non biased I would have to list the old time fighters that fought professionally once a month and sometimes more. This new model of fighting once or twice a year is bs. I also hate fighters that run and throw taps in bunches trying to win on points. That would be fighters like Mayweather, Sweet pea and Camacho. You could throw in Leonard in his fight against Hagler.
Controversial addition is Chuck Wepner. He fought the best and lost to the best. He was always picked for an easy win for a top dog and they regretted it. He worked a 40 plus hour week and trained for boxing part time. He was all heart. The only time he trained without working was the Ali fight. He's the real Rocky of the bunch. He was huge. Standing near him in a store after he was long retired impressed me with his size. Hard to believe he is 84.
Honorable mention is Jerry Quarry. Like Chuck he always fought the best and went all out. If he didn't live through a super stars list of hall of famers heavy weights he would have had the title. In the end his mind was scrabbled from all the wars he was in and it was a sad end.
Another honorable mention is Arturo Gatti. He wasn't the best boxer or athlete. The reason why he is on this list was because he was all heart. Wes should learn from him. Never date and marry a go go dancer. I still say she lured him to South America to have him killed. Now she is living the life there with his millions.
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I had a lot of favorites (can you have more than one favorite) sometimes I would like a fighter who may not have been the most skilled but was tough as shit or maybe was a real character.Boom boom was one of my favorites.
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I had a lot of favorites (can you have more than one favorite) sometimes I would like a fighter who may not have been the most skilled but was tough as shit or maybe was a real character.Boom boom was one of my favorites.
He was all offense and every punch was thrown with bad intent. That was his problem. He never used boxing to win over an inferior fighter like Bamble that just covered up. It exposed Boom Boom's lack of boxing IQ where he just looked for the knock out. He could have layed back and jabbed Bamble letting him do something offensive for openings instead of throwing endless reckless punches. Great fighter and all heart Mancini though.
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Bhanky is his colorful boxers is near the top of the list.
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Oscar Bonavena was a character. I heard it said that on the day he was born it was written he would be killed at a brothel and that’s just what happened
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Of all time or currently?
So many favorites from history.
Roberto Duran
Eder Jofre
Khaosai Galaxy
Harry Greb
Stanly Ketchel
Joe Louis
Wilfredo Gomez
Azumah Nelson, Salvador Sanchez,
Carlos Monzon
Marvin Hagler
MikecCallum
Just way too many to list.
High high high marks for the Monzon and Gomez references!
I like the punchers that could box but would devolve into brawling when they got in trouble and could come back from the brink because of monster punching power. Julian Jackson and Arturo gatti in particular. I also liked guys that go to the body like Juan Manuel Marquez or ward. David lemieux.
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Frances all the way looking forward to the AJ fight way more than Tyson vs Usyck
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Ali: He just fought too long. Also his lost almost 4 of his best years when he was banned.
Frazier: He was Tyson before Tyson. The fights he had with Ali ruined him. He beat a prime of his life Ali.
Norton: Him and Frazier are probably responsible for Ali's brain damage.
Foreman: Just a wrecking machine. In his lost to Ali he looked almost drugged and slow. Just a really bad day for him.
Marciano: He was a light heavy and Cruiser weight but fought heavyweights. Every time a white man bring up boxing he pulls Rocky Marciano out of his ass.
Hearns: His power was unreal. One of the hardest punchers of all time.
Duran: He was just a mean vicious prick. His undoing was the partying life style and the rumors of drugs.
Hagler: Grew up in the mean streets of Newark, NJ. I still say he is undefeated. Fuck Leonard and his running against him.
Leonard: Got to give him respect for all the wins he had.
Holmes: Never ducked anyone. He is never ranked highly because he made it look easy. Always fought the best available. Learned how to fight from being Ali's sparring partner.
Archie Moore: Maybe the most knockouts in history. Fought during a time where he would fight sometimes once or twice a month trying to make a pay check.
Sugar Ray Robinson: Speed and skill. Say no more.
So many more. If I would be completely non biased I would have to list the old time fighters that fought professionally once a month and sometimes more. This new model of fighting once or twice a year is bs. I also hate fighters that run and throw taps in bunches trying to win on points. That would be fighters like Mayweather, Sweet pea and Camacho. You could throw in Leonard in his fight against Hagler.
Controversial addition is Chuck Wepner. He fought the best and lost to the best. He was always picked for an easy win for a top dog and they regretted it. He worked a 40 plus hour week and trained for boxing part time. He was all heart. The only time he trained without working was the Ali fight. He's the real Rocky of the bunch. He was huge. Standing near him in a store after he was long retired impressed me with his size. Hard to believe he is 84.
Honorable mention is Jerry Quarry. Like Chuck he always fought the best and went all out. If he didn't live through a super stars list of hall of famers heavy weights he would have had the title. In the end his mind was scrabbled from all the wars he was in and it was a sad end.
Another honorable mention is Arturo Gatti. He wasn't the best boxer or athlete. The reason why he is on this list was because he was all heart. Wes should learn from him. Never date and marry a go go dancer. I still say she lured him to South America to have him killed. Now she is living the life there with his millions.
my boxing coach said Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest boxer of all time
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the real deal best conditioned heavywt boxer ever.
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Mike Tyson and Tommy Gunn.
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Mike Tyson and Darren Avey
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Tyson, Ron Lyle, Arturo Gatti, Rocky Marciano, Max Baer
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Clegg
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Ali
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Clegg
hahahahaha!!!!!!
here ya go bro i know you all but dem titties :D
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Rocky IV
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Hagler for me, then Lewis
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Hagler for me, then Lewis
Lewis is probably the most underrated champion ever.
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Lewis is probably the most underrated champion ever.
True he was great.
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Vigorous Steve
WTF!!!???
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Darren and Stapler come to mind... :D
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WTF!!!???
You ass! LOL ;D
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WTF!!!???
missed that
maybe leo longevity...
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Lewis is probably the most underrated champion ever.
X2. Lewis beat every man he ever faced. Was 2X champ. Bunch of title defenses.
On the negative side Bowe ducked him, robbing him of what would've been his greatest win. His 2 losses were to guys who should've never beat him in the first place wven though he soundly beat them in rematches.
Surprised how little JCC gets mentioned. He was truly incredible.
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missed that
maybe leo longevity...
Leo couldn’t fight his way out of a wet toilet paper ball
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eric morales, mike tyson, vinny paz, marvin hagler, rocky balboa
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eric morales, mike tyson, vinny paz, marvin hagler, rocky balboa
Dad, do you take steroids?
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Leo couldn’t fight his way out of a wet toilet paper ball
he sure did talk tough though
any man who lays a hand on a female is a fucking piece of shit i'm glad he's dead
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Dad, do you take steroids?
lmao....imagine the answer hankins will give spencer someday?
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lmao....imagine the answer hankins will give spencer someday?
“No.”
“Well, what are all these needles for?”
“That’s my bioidentical hormone medication!!!!”
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i like the power punchers middlewieght to welter ie. Hearns and Jackson
but this dudes hand speed was something else
fuck!!!!
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Tua
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lmao....imagine the answer hankins will give spencer someday?
Still not taking any steroids. I am taking Test and now HGH both bioidentical hormones it's called HRT and is all anyone needs. Also those are the only medications of any class I am taking. I do use a cannabinoid pen and have 1 cup of coffee a day. I haven't even had a soda in weeks. That is it.
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Tyson and Mayweather Jr.
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Still not taking any steroids. I am taking Test and now HGH both bioidentical hormones it's called HRT and is all anyone needs. Also those are the only medications of any class I am taking. I do use a cannabinoid pen and have 1 cup of coffee a day. I haven't even had a soda in weeks. That is it.
Is the anemia in remission?
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Still not taking any steroids. I am taking Test and now HGH both bioidentical hormones it's called HRT and is all anyone needs. Also those are the only medications of any class I am taking. I do use a cannabinoid pen and have 1 cup of coffee a day. I haven't even had a soda in weeks. That is it.
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Is the anemia in remission?
No I have a problem digesting nutrients. I probably still have low levels of Iron and RBC but I need to get some new Bloodwork to find out
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No I have a problem digesting nutrients. I probably still have low levels of Iron and RBC but I need to get some new Bloodwork to find out
you have a lot of female health issues lmao
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James Toney. The only high level boxer that had the balls to enter UFC which of course just demonstrated that boxing only is useless in actual fighting.
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James Toney. The only high level boxer that had the balls to enter UFC which of course just demonstrated that boxing only is useless in actual fighting.
I hated that guy thought he was a real douche but gotta admit he was great
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yep Pryor was something special
He was an animal in his prime Leonard avoided Him
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James Toney. The only high level boxer that had the balls to enter UFC which of course just demonstrated that boxing only is useless in actual fighting.
Go tell that to Mike Tyson, George Foreman or ike ibeabuchi you pathetic little man
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He was an animal in his prime Leonard avoided Him
Research that statement further and you'll find it to be complete, utter bullshit. Ray Leonard turned pro in late 76 and by September 81 had fought Wilfred Benitez, Roberto Duran x 2, Ayub Kalule and if you don't know about Kalule, look him up and Tommy Hearns. Comes back after a five year retirement and outpoints Hagler. He would have knocked Pryor's wild ass out. Cold.
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X2. Lewis beat every man he ever faced. Was 2X champ. Bunch of title defenses.
On the negative side Bowe ducked him, robbing him of what would've been his greatest win. His 2 losses were to guys who should've never beat him in the first place wven though he soundly beat them in rematches.
Surprised how little JCC gets mentioned. He was truly incredible.
Lewis knew when to walk away and not stick around till he was old and weak. He also is a really good boxing commentator.
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Go tell that to Mike Tyson, George Foreman or ike ibeabuchi you pathetic little man
All those guys are free to enter the MMA cage and not have pillows on their hands and a referee separating them. In a street fight there's no time to go find pillows or someone separating you
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James Toney. The only high level boxer that had the balls to enter UFC which of course just demonstrated that boxing only is useless in actual fighting.
He was an old beat up retired fighter when he entered the UFC. Actually strikers do well that have take down defenses. Conor is a prime example.
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All those guys are free to enter the MMA cage and not have pillows on their hands and a referee separating them. In a street fight there's no time to go find pillows or someone separating you
Pillows hahahaha another pumped up bodybuilder who thinks he's a fighter
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I thought we were picking one guy.
YOU GUYS SUCK! LOL :D
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Right now I'll say Roy Jones Jr. but is always subject to change
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Right now I'll say Roy Jones Jr. but is always subject to change
Great fighter!
He`d be on my list if I KNEW we were making a LIST! :(
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Right now I'll say Roy Jones Jr. but is always subject to change
I think that Roy Jones Jr. at his absolute best beats any fighter in history under 200 pounds. I know what my eyes see.
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Actually strikers do well that have take down defenses. Conor is a prime example.
Duh, a person who dedicated his life to MMA does well in MMA. No shit?
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Duh, a person who dedicated his life to MMA does well in MMA. No shit?
Talking about strikers like boxers in MMA matches. Try to keep up stupid. That was the topic above. Some strikers do really well in MMA. Conor has poor ground skills compared to wrestlers and BBJ guys.
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That was the topic above.
Topic is boxers, check the thread title. Not strikers. But as proven over and over again boxers are poor fighters overall.
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Topic is boxers, check the thread title. Not strikers. But as proven over and over again boxers are poor fighters overall.
Spoken like a guy who has done neither.
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Spoken like a guy who has done neither.
X 2
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From the past? Mike Tyson. Currently, the best ever is Frances Ngannou
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Topic is boxers, check the thread title. Not strikers. But as proven over and over again boxers are poor fighters overall.
Unlike bodybuilders haha
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I think that Roy Jones Jr. at his absolute best beats any fighter in history under 200 pounds. I know what my eyes see.
I think so too.
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I think so too.
Meldrick Taylor was Roy Jones Jr before Roy was. And Julio Caesar Chavez beat him up by breaking him down in the body.
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Barbara.
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How many of you guys have actually been in a ring against an opponent in boxing?
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How many of you guys have actually been in a ring against an opponent in boxing?
Raises hand…
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How many of you guys have actually been in a ring against an opponent in boxing?
sparred 4 times with my polish coach, maybe landed 2 or 3 jabs inj total :D :D :D
after the first one i took a beating and either had cracked or brusied ribs and we had long spar rounds like 5+ minutes at the end of the firsr one he said to me "you are brave"
he sparred with a polish heavyweight pro and said the pro never landed a clean shot on him
my man che has the pic of our post spar result, which my coach posted on his fagbook account :D :D :D
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Meldrick Taylor was Roy Jones Jr before Roy was. And Julio Caesar Chavez beat him up by breaking him down in the body.
Meldrick was as fast as Jones in terms of handspeed but his style was totally different, he didn't have Jones power- not even 50% of Jones power, and prime Jones had better reflexes. Meldrick could take a better punch and had twice the heart.
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Meldrick was as fast as Jones in terms of handspeed but his style was totally different, he didn't have Jones power- not even 50% of Jones power, and prime Jones had better reflexes. Meldrick could take a better punch and had twice the heart.
you really think jones handspeed was as fast as meldrick?
not seeing it bro
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you really think jones handspeed was as fast as meldrick?
not seeing it bro
Yes, I believe his speed was on par with Meldrick's. Roy had one hitter quitter power to go with it. Unbelievable reflexes and stamina for days. If Roy never dropped back down to 175 but instead fought Holyfield and Tyson, his legacy, unfortunately would be much more favorable.
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you really think jones handspeed was as fast as meldrick?
not seeing it bro
Different kinds of speed. Meldricks handspeed was incredible but he was landing pitty-pat punches, srill harder puncher than say Sweat Pea Whittaker but they were 'arm punches'
Jones speed was in his reflexes. Jones could be way outside and leap in, close the distance, and land a knockout punch faster than anyone else.
In terms of combination punching there aren't many, if any, that were faster than Taylor. A young Sugar Ray Leonard was probably just as fast.
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Anyone else watching Beterbiev vs. Smith? Its about to start. Watched 3 undercard fights. All pretty good fights. There's a good, electric, atmosphere, its in Quebec.
Should be good. Beterbiev is a beast but I think he's a tad over-rated. He should win tonight though. Smith was trounced by Canelo at super middle weight just 3 fights ago but anything can happen. Smith seems focused and Beterbiev is 39 years old.
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Anyone else watching Beterbiev vs. Smith? Its about to start. Watched 3 undercard fights. All pretty good fights. There's a good, electric, atmosphere, its in Quebec.
Should be good. Beterbiev is a beast but I think he's a tad over-rated. He should win tonight though. Smith was trounced by Canelo at super middle weight just 3 fights ago but anything can happen. Smith seems focused and Beterbiev is 39 years old.
I'm a big fan of Beterbiev. Even more so after tonight. Canelo outbox ed Smith Beterbiev most likely retired him. If he and Bivol fight this summer I'm rolling with Beterbiev solidly. Best jab in the game today. In all my years I've never seen such short punches do so much damage. You're correct too about the undercarriage. Outstanding fights.
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I'm a big fan of Beterbiev. Even more so after tonight. Canelo outbox ed Smith Beterbiev most likely retired him. If he and Bivol fight this summer I'm rolling with Beterbiev solidly. Best jab in the game today. In all my years I've never seen such short punches do so much damage. You're correct too about the undercarriage. Outstanding fights.
Prior to tonight I thought Bivol was an easy pick over Beterbiev. I'm not so sure now.
I like Beterbiev alot too but I do think he's a little overrated. He gets hit a little too easily and Ive seen him wobbled a couple of times. I watched his full fights with Enrico Knolling (sp?) And Govodzvk. In those fights there were a few stretches where he was outboxed. Though he ended up bludgeoning both in the end. he's susch a hard puncher. Its wild because they're not punches with a lot of speed or leverage, he just really physically strong, almost like a light heavyweight Foreman. His strength is rare. Agree with you about his jab. He's also devout Muslim so he lives clean between fights.
I think Bivol is fresher. More disciplined- not in terms of training but in terms of sticking to a game plan, making zero mistakes. He really boxes beautifully.
It's a true Boxer/puncher match up and it's close to a 50/50 fight.
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How many of you guys have actually been in a ring against an opponent in boxing?
Me. 8)
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Prior to tonight I thought Bivol was an easy pick over Beterbiev. I'm not so sure now.
I like Beterbiev alot too but I do think he's a little overrated. He gets hit a little too easily and Ive seen him wobbled a couple of times. I watched his full fights with Enrico Knolling (sp?) And Govodzvk. In those fights there were a few stretches where he was outboxed. Though he ended up bludgeoning both in the end. he's susch a hard puncher. Its wild because they're not punches with a lot of speed or leverage, he just really physically strong, almost like a light heavyweight Foreman. His strength is rare. Agree with you about his jab. He's also devout Muslim so he lives clean between fights.
I think Bivol is fresher. More disciplined- not in terms of training but in terms of sticking to a game plan, making zero mistakes. He really boxes beautifully.
It's a true Boxer/puncher match up and it's close to a 50/50 fight.
I'm going with Beterbiev as I just don't think Bivol can keep him off him. Also, Beterbiev looks to have benefited from whatever surgeries he was out with. I believe the last couple years he was fighting through injuries. I like last night how he got off to a quick start too. Don't get me wrong, Bivol is a p4p top 5ish guy. It is a great match up and cannot wait for it to happen.
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all hail THE KING 8) 8) 8)
and here's the best built boxer
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How many of you guys have actually been in a ring against an opponent in boxing?
Me. I had a few amateur fights in my teens. Haven't sparred in a long time but still do a few rounds on heavy bag, speed bag and jump rope. Now I teach my kids too.
I'm convinced if you've repeatedly felt the physical pressure of another person trying to punch you and attack you, you tend to deal with all forms of conflict better later on in life.
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Beterbiev is a tank.
Reminds me of Dorian, crushing all his opponents on stage.
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Me. I had a few amateur fights in my teens. Haven't sparred in a long time but still do a few rounds on heavy bag, speed bag and jump rope. Now I teach my kids too.
I'm convinced if you've repeatedly felt the physical pressure of another person trying to punch you and attack you, you tend to deal with all forms of conflict better later on in life.
yep good point
gotta learn to work through the pain
got my start as a long distance runner
if you're a good runner when you run and it gets painful you just bite the fucking bullet and run EVEN HARDER 8)
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James "Lights Out" Toney. In this prime, the truest, most impressive fighter of all time. Never afraid of a war, while at the same time making guys miss out of the true Philly Shell. The type of dude that would call your baby ugly pre-fight, beat your ass, and then keep mean mugging you after the fight was over. A warrior that never overcame the trauma he faced as a youngster.
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After recent leaks and developments, this threas may experience a Clegg wave
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I boxed from 9 to 17 competitively from 12.
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I boxed from 9 to 17 competitively from 12.
RESPECT 8)
what weight class?
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James "Lights Out" Toney. In this prime, the truest, most impressive fighter of all time. Never afraid of a war, while at the same time making guys miss out of the true Philly Shell. The type of dude that would call your baby ugly pre-fight, beat your ass, and then keep mean mugging you after the fight was over. A warrior that never overcame the trauma he faced as a youngster.
could not stand this arrogant douche but yep he was something special
this dude got the power 8) 8) 8)
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lightweight- u60kg
light welter u63.5 kg
welter 67kg
I was also fighting in FSK- freestyle sport karate amd muay thai. from 13-17. thai was bastard hard as hell
i GOT Into weights at 13 and was a fully fledged fan of the sport from the 83 olympia onwards.
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I forgot to mention Joe Calzaghe. Some will say he fought the majority of his fights in Europe with mainly white fighters but he fought some big names even if some would argue they were on the decline when Joe fought them. Calzaghe had power, aggression and incredible conditioning.
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Calzaghe v Lacey was a great performance
considering Calzaghe basically fought one handed for his last 15 fights he was a phenomenon
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Calzaghe v Lacey was a great performance
considering Calzaghe basically fought one handed for his last 15 fights he was a phenomenon
That was a unification fight and a fight a lot of people thought Lacey would win. Calzaghe put on a masterful performance and absolutely dominated Lacey. Lacey wasn't the same after that fight.
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I thought Lacey was being brought over to put Calzaghe into retirement.
masterful performance is the right phrase mate
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lightweight- u60kg
light welter u63.5 kg
welter 67kg
I was also fighting in FSK- freestyle sport karate amd muay thai. from 13-17. thai was bastard hard as hell
i GOT Into weights at 13 and was a fully fledged fan of the sport from the 83 olympia onwards.
cool 8)
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I boxed from 9 to 17 competitively from 12.
Bro...
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lightweight- u60kg
light welter u63.5 kg
welter 67kg
I was also fighting in FSK- freestyle sport karate amd muay thai. from 13-17. thai was bastard hard as hell
i GOT Into weights at 13 and was a fully fledged fan of the sport from the 83 olympia onwards.
I walked into a boxing gym in my early 20's. I was fast from sprinting and I lifted weights. On day one I told the owner I wanted some ring time. He put me in the ring with a guy that out weighed me by 20lbs. Looked about 18 and 200lbs plus. He was training for the NY Golden Gloves. Not knowing anything I went all out having him against the ropes. He was blocking my punches. He then opened up. The gym owner said I was out on my feet when he stopped the fight. I was humiliated and as I got out of the ring and a little welterweight said, "Fight me next." I didn't return to that gym.
Some years later I got the urge again but did it the right way getting some training in. Had five more fights and of course thought I won them all. The guys I fought were tomato cans except for one. He knocked me down but I got up quick and we were both tagging each other pretty good. Naturally he thought he won but I thought even with the knock down I won. They gave it to him. These were all gym fights in the ring.
I got out of my short lived boxing "career" quick and I'm still pretty. Blocking punches with your face makes you ugly quick. Anyone that hasn't fought in the ring have no clue how brutal boxing is. In submission wrestling a guy has you in a hold, you tap and it's over. Getting punched is brutal. I have never kick boxed as in Muay Thai but that looks sick.
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I walked into a boxing gym in my early 20's. I was fast from sprinting and I lifted weights. On day one I told the owner I wanted some ring time. He put me in the ring with a guy that out weighed me by 20lbs. Looked about 18 and 200lbs plus. He was training for the NY Golden Gloves. Not knowing anything I went all out having him against the ropes. He was blocking my punches. He then opened up. The gym owner said I was out on my feet when he stopped the fight. I was humiliated and as I got out of the ring and a little welterweight said, "Fight me next." I didn't return to that gym.
Some years later I got the urge again but did it the right way getting some training in. Had five more fights and of course thought I won them all. The guys I fought were tomato cans except for one. He knocked me down but I got up quick and we were both tagging each other pretty good. Naturally he thought he won but I thought even with the knock down I won. They gave it to him. These were all gym fights in the ring.
I got out of my short lived boxing "career" quick and I'm still pretty. Blocking punches with your face makes you ugly quick. Anyone that hasn't fought in the ring have no clue how brutal boxing is. In submission wrestling a guy has you in a hold, you tap and it's over. Getting punched is brutal. I have never kick boxed as in Muay Thai but that looks sick.
narcissism and boxing is a very bad mix
case in point during my spars it hurt getting punched no doubt but i was absoultey furious i got hit perfect boxers never get hit yes i have this insane belief in my head, so every time he landed a blow i was more and more pissed off
i gonna go back to practicing boxing because weight training does jack fucking shit to get rid of and release anger and it's boring as fuck
boxing training is very fucking hard but more fun and interesting 8)
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Better footage 8) 2:28 5:30
Frankie Randall and Ali
Erislandy Lara and BeterWolverine
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I had dozens of fights as an amateur and junior. Being honest I was caught between boxing and martial arts- I started boxing a I did TKD and entered freestyle tournaments and the Lau Gar Kung Fu lads were ultra quick with their hands so could steam in and pick oiff points. So. did boxing for handspeed really. And conditioning. I don't care what anyone says if you can box a heavy spar for 6 x 3 minutes you are in shape.
At 17 I was winning ABA regionals and in the semi's came up against a real boxer. I was basically game had a relatively stiff jab and a heavy left hand (I'm a southpaw). MOst of the fights i won came courtesy of a jab low right jab low righ feint low right left over the to combo. This guy semed to knw what i was doing before i threw anything. I lasted the 3 rounds but hardly landed a shot. Prior to that there was talk of turning pro I was sparring pro's in the gym- towards the end of the 10 rounds one 30 seconds rest change partner every 2 rounds some of them did. But seein gthe diffference between a decen tclub amateur like myself and a future pro like th elad who beat me with some ease made me question that! Fortunately the judiciary decided i wasnt welcome either so i went away.
Anyone who has genuinely got in a ring with a trained figher they don't know and give it hell for leather knows what i mean. Thats why when imbeciles like brian talk of ragdolling tyson its a farce. Tyson was so quick he would hit anyone on te way in and fracture their skull. However brian has never been hurt so it wouldnt matter. Phrases like this cnvince me he is full of shit. Brian is a bully an dbullies never do well in the ring. they get battere and 90% disappear. the 10% that comeback stop being bullies.
Muay Thai was and indeed is brutal. Until you've taken a proper leg kick you cant imagine the pain. It is literally stop the bus i want to get of in terms of pain.I leanrt under Master Sken in Manchester. I've seen him shin kick through 4 inches of wood. He also used to kick apples off swords. To strneghten our shins we used to roll beer bottles up and down our shins applying pressure. The kick a makiwari or a tree base. Brutal as fuck. A firend of mine livews over in thailand. He was a former european thai champ. When he got there he trained in a recommended gym and in his own words was a punch and kick bag for 3 months. A s a foreigner he was treated like shit but eventually earnt their respect but it came with loads of busted ribs, noses, chekbones eye sockets. Fuck that!!
This is not me cliaming i had 11,600 school fights unbeaten its me outlining my experience of boxing etc.
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I had dozens of fights as an amateur and junior. Being honest I was caught between boxing and martial arts- I started boxing a I did TKD and entered freestyle tournaments and the Lau Gar Kung Fu lads were ultra quick with their hands so could steam in and pick oiff points. So. did boxing for handspeed really. And conditioning. I don't care what anyone says if you can box a heavy spar for 6 x 3 minutes you are in shape.
At 17 I was winning ABA regionals and in the semi's came up against a real boxer. I was basically game had a relatively stiff jab and a heavy left hand (I'm a southpaw). MOst of the fights i won came courtesy of a jab low right jab low righ feint low right left over the to combo. This guy semed to knw what i was doing before i threw anything. I lasted the 3 rounds but hardly landed a shot. Prior to that there was talk of turning pro I was sparring pro's in the gym- towards the end of the 10 rounds one 30 seconds rest change partner every 2 rounds some of them did. But seein gthe diffference between a decen tclub amateur like myself and a future pro like th elad who beat me with some ease made me question that! Fortunately the judiciary decided i wasnt welcome either so i went away.
Anyone who has genuinely got in a ring with a trained figher they don't know and give it hell for leather knows what i mean. Thats why when imbeciles like brian talk of ragdolling tyson its a farce. Tyson was so quick he would hit anyone on te way in and fracture their skull. However brian has never been hurt so it wouldnt matter. Phrases like this cnvince me he is full of shit. Brian is a bully an dbullies never do well in the ring. they get battere and 90% disappear. the 10% that comeback stop being bullies.
Muay Thai was and indeed is brutal. Until you've taken a proper leg kick you cant imagine the pain. It is literally stop the bus i want to get of in terms of pain.I leanrt under Master Sken in Manchester. I've seen him shin kick through 4 inches of wood. He also used to kick apples off swords. To strneghten our shins we used to roll beer bottles up and down our shins applying pressure. The kick a makiwari or a tree base. Brutal as fuck. A firend of mine livews over in thailand. He was a former european thai champ. When he got there he trained in a recommended gym and in his own words was a punch and kick bag for 3 months. A s a foreigner he was treated like shit but eventually earnt their respect but it came with loads of busted ribs, noses, chekbones eye sockets. Fuck that!!
This is not me cliaming i had 11,600 school fights unbeaten its me outlining my experience of boxing etc.
did you ever work on a markwarii board/dummy? (can't spell it, but it a wood dummy that use to toughen your arms and legs)
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Favorite fighter right now..... gotta be Jamie Clegg.
Oldtimer1, our experiences are pretty similar. Actually thought I had great potential. Starting boxing after wtestling, strength and conditioning were great. I really liked to study the sport from a young age, watched dozens of fight films.
Over the course of 10 years or so boxed at 4 different gyms and had a dozen or so fights, exhibitions and amatuer, heavy sparring.
One day during sparring a guy, who was quite a bit bigger than me, was looking to spar. I said sure. The coach instructed us both to pull our punches due to the size difference. After a round or so he's hitting me pretty good. So I respond. He was a pure brawler, no skill. I had a lot of skill, hand speed and goid power at my weight. So I start really outclassing this guy. Hitting him with combinations. He starts hitting me even harder and I respond with more combinations. Coach steps in and says 'I'm not going to tell you guys again! Knock it off!' He tells the other guy that im a much better boxer, then he tells me "that guy could kill you if he catches you in a corner." He chastises both of us and says he doesn't want us getting injured in training. Coach resumes the match....this fucking guy winds up with a shot that spun me around with his first punch after resuming. He didn't give a fuck what the coach said. I guess he felt he needed to prove a point. My entire body went numb for the next three or 4 hours. (You know when you sleep on your arm and wake up and your arm has no feeling? My whole body felt like that) but I was on my feet and conscious. I finished the round and said 'I'm good. I'm done' I walked home from the gym like a drunk because I couldn't feel my feet touching the ground. That was the last time I seriously attempted boxing though I continued to train for several more years.
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did you ever work on a markwarii board/dummy? (can't spell it, but it a wood dummy that use to toughen your arms and legs)
ye sas stated above. mate- doing thai kicks!
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Favorite fighter right now..... gotta be Jamie Clegg.
Oldtimer1, our experiences are pretty similar. Actually thought I had great potential. Starting boxing after wtestling, strength and conditioning were great. I really liked to study the sport from a young age, watched dozens of fight films.
Over the course of 10 years or so boxed at 4 different gyms and had a dozen or so fights, exhibitions and amatuer, heavy sparring.
One day during sparring a guy, who was quite a bit bigger than me, was looking to spar. I said sure. The coach instructed us both to pull our punches due to the size difference. After a round or so he's hitting me pretty good. So I respond. He was a pure brawler, no skill. I had a lot of skill, hand speed and goid power at my weight. So I start really outclassing this guy. Hitting him with combinations. He starts hitting me even harder and I respond with more combinations. Coach steps in and says 'I'm not going to tell you guys again! Knock it off!' He tells the other guy that im a much better boxer, then he tells me "that guy could kill you if he catches you in a corner." He chastises both of us and says he doesn't want us getting injured in training. Coach resumes the match....this fucking guy winds up with a shot that spun me around with his first punch after resuming. He didn't give a fuck what the coach said. I guess he felt he needed to prove a point. My entire body went numb for the next three or 4 hours. (You know when you sleep on your arm and wake up and your arm has no feeling? My whole body felt like that) but I was on my feet and conscious. I finished the round and said 'I'm good. I'm done' I walked home from the gym like a drunk because I couldn't feel my feet touching the ground. That was the last time I seriously attempted boxing though I continued to train for several more years.
I still vainly say I hit like a mule but have enough sense that it takes more than that to be a good fighter. I will never get in the ring again.
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ye sas stated above. mate- doing thai kicks!
Damn that's rough man once again RESPECT
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lightweight- u60kg
light welter u63.5 kg
welter 67kg
I was also fighting in FSK- freestyle sport karate amd muay thai. from 13-17. thai was bastard hard as hell
i GOT Into weights at 13 and was a fully fledged fan of the sport from the 83 olympia onwards.
Moo Thai was popular in the USA in the early 80s?
I don't think it really hit the UK until the 90s (maybe closer to the late 90s).
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Calzaghe v Lacey was a great performance
considering Calzaghe basically fought one handed for his last 15 fights he was a phenomenon
One thing I remember about that fight was Lacey's girlfriend was emasculating him from the front row, constantly screaming shit like "hit him Jeff". The poor guy had to stop and lean over the rope to tell her to shut up at one point.
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Moo Thai was popular in the USA in the early 80s?
I don't think it really hit the UK until the 90s (maybe closer to the late 90s).
good article here mate
https://www.vice.com/en/article/aebka4/when-manchester-was-mecca-for-muay-thai
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Damn that's rough man once again RESPECT
in fairness its 35 years ago I wouldnt attempt it nowadays!