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Title: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on June 15, 2024, 10:58:48 AM
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Wrong. Meth breath certainly built his body with volume. That's been well established. The rest was steroids. Old methy was a con artist making out he only trained 30 minutes 4 x a week with hit. It's well known that once you attain the mass you can maintain it on lower volume trainiing. Yates also did this. He used higher volume to build up then lower volume (and lots of gear) to maintain.

"One of the most common misrepresentations about Mike Mentzer is that he built all of his size with volume training, but then, for some reason, recommended that people train with low volume and high intensity. The pro volume people allege that he did this solely as a means of making money. Nothing could be further from the truth."
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Titus Pullo on June 15, 2024, 01:35:38 PM
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Wrong. Meth breath certainly built his body with volume. That's been well established. The rest was steroids. Old methy was a con artist making out he only trained 30 minutes 4 x a week with hit. It's well known that once you attain the mass you can maintain it on lower volume trainiing. Yates also did this. He used higher volume to build up then lower volume (and lots of gear) to maintain.

Not this shit again :/  It's like a moth to a flame.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with so-called HIT trainers.  Larry Pullock, the same source you gleefully cite as evidence that Methzer would suck a dick for amphetamines, attested to how Mike actually trained, and he detailed how Mike went from skinny fat to pro size using moderate doses of Deca in tandem with a split and set protocol very similar to that which Mikey recommended in his '92 edition of Heavy Duty.

You never cited a source for Yates doing "high volume," either.  You claimed you had witnesses to as much, and never named one.  It was around that time that you started strawmandering everybody, including your nasty jokes at Big Ro's father's expense.

You're a bottom feeder, Rimjob.  Fuck you.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 15, 2024, 02:50:45 PM
Not this shit again :/  It's like a moth to a flame.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with so-called HIT trainers.  Larry Pullock, the same source you gleefully cite as evidence that Methzer would suck a dick for amphetamines, attested to how Mike actually trained, and he detailed how Mike went from skinny fat to pro size using moderate doses of Deca in tandem with a split and set protocol very similar to that which Mikey recommended in his '92 edition of Heavy Duty.

You never cited a source for Yates doing "high volume," either.  You claimed you had witnesses to as much, and never named one.  It was around that time that you started strawmandering everybody, including your nasty jokes at Big Ro's father's expense.

You're a bottom feeder, Rimjob.  Fuck you.

If you don't like then don't read. Very simple. Just like you. 👍
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: falco on June 15, 2024, 03:57:48 PM
You're obcessed man..
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: IroNat on June 15, 2024, 05:17:56 PM
You're obcessed man..

I think correct spelling is "abcessed".
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: MajorDomo on June 15, 2024, 07:39:32 PM
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Wrong. Meth breath certainly built his body with volume. That's been well established. The rest was steroids. Old methy was a con artist making out he only trained 30 minutes 4 x a week with hit. It's well known that once you attain the mass you can maintain it on lower volume trainiing. Yates also did this. He used higher volume to build up then lower volume (and lots of gear) to maintain.

So use higher volume if you want. Nobody gives a fuck.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 16, 2024, 12:11:57 AM
He was a heavyweight as a Mr. Pennsylvania amateur years before (s)HIT.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: French on June 16, 2024, 01:19:56 AM
He never did a HIT to gain his mass. His frame was built before he was 25 and peaked in 77 with high volume training.
After retiring, he was nothing more than a salesman of dreams until the final absurdity of his ultimate 90s training program.
He never trained Dorian.
The only guy who trained intensively, heavy with extra short sessions besides Dorian was Lee Labrada.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
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Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: French on June 16, 2024, 03:37:43 AM
For photography only in 1991, Dorian trained in England.
It's a bit like Joe Weider "trainer of champions" who has never trained anyone.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Palumboism on June 16, 2024, 04:47:19 AM
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Palumboism on June 16, 2024, 04:51:51 AM

Wrong. Meth breath certainly built his body with volume. That's been well established. The rest was steroids. Old methy was a con artist making out he only trained 30 minutes 4 x a week with hit. It's well known that once you attain the mass you can maintain it on lower volume trainiing. Yates also did this. He used higher volume to build up then lower volume (and lots of gear) to maintain.

How do you explain that John has 151,000 subscribers on Youtube?  It seems like many out there are interested in watching what he posts.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rambone on June 16, 2024, 08:03:16 AM
Overheard a bald man at my gym talking about Mike Mentzer yesterday. True story.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 16, 2024, 09:02:20 AM
He claims Arron baker went from a soft 205 to a conditioned 250 in just a few months of training with him

Also claimed Peter Paul of the barbarian brothers gained 7 pounds of pure muscle under his guidance in a matter of weeks

One of his best quotes was something like this.... "So how do you get bigger? By getting weaker?"

Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: beakdoctor on June 16, 2024, 11:20:02 AM
How do you explain that John has 151,000 subscribers on Youtube?  It seems like many out there are interested in watching what he posts.

That's every single person who ascribes to Heavy Duty philosophy.  Half of them haven't trained since the 80's and the other half looks like shit.

John little parrots the most idiotic shit that mentzer used to say. He prefaces most of his stories by saying something like "this is nothing against Arnold, he was a great bodybuilder  BUT

Can you imagine how much better he could've been had he not overtrained?

Or

At everyone says he was the 6th or 7th best bodybuilder on stage that day.

The argument these guys always make for how great mentzer was is how well he did against the worst version of Arnold who ever stepped on stage....

It's like everyone saying Trevor Berbick is better than Muhammad Ali, lol... preposterous
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 16, 2024, 12:29:11 PM
So use higher volume if you want. Nobody gives a fuck.

No, just you.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 16, 2024, 12:33:09 PM
How do you explain that John has 151,000 subscribers on Youtube?  It seems like many out there are interested in watching what he posts.

That's easy. Just look at his views compared to his subscribers. Not many viewing his vids. The hit marketing gimmick appeals to the lazy and the naive. Little is just milking methzer's name since he owns some of the methzer estate. So he uploads tons of methzer bs but funny how he never shows any real evidence of methzer's methods actually working. There has never been a successful hit only bodybuilder. And no that does not include Yates.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 16, 2024, 12:36:19 PM
That's every single person who ascribes to Heavy Duty philosophy.  Half of them haven't trained since the 80's and the other half looks like shit.

John little parrots the most idiotic shit that mentzer used to say. He prefaces most of his stories by saying something like "this is nothing against Arnold, he was a great bodybuilder  BUT

Can you imagine how much better he could've been had he not overtrained?

Or

At everyone says he was the 6th or 7th best bodybuilder on stage that day.

The argument these guys always make for how great mentzer was is how well he did against the worst version of Arnold who ever stepped on stage....

It's like everyone saying Trevor Berbick is better than Muhammad Ali, lol... preposterous

Exactly. It's very cult like thinking. If you try to debate Little with actual real world results that debunks the hit myth he will block you. If Little is so smart then why can't he defend his position? It's all a con to suck in the naive and the lazy.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 16, 2024, 12:49:06 PM
Exactly. It's very cult like thinking. If you try to debate Little with actual real world results that debunks the hit myth he will block you. If Little is so smart then why can't he defend his position? It's all a con to suck in the naive and the lazy.

Most of the big guys like the guys on thinkbig bodybuilding YouTube said they built the vast majority of their size on brief and infrequent training ie. Dog crap training

So how do you explain this? Dog crap is not volume training btw
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 16, 2024, 12:54:44 PM
Most of the big guys like the guys on thinkbig bodybuilding YouTube said they built the vast majority of their size on brief and infrequent training ie. Dog crap training

So how do you explain this? Dog crap is not volume training btw

Why not try different training methods and see what works for you we are not all the same
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: beakdoctor on June 16, 2024, 01:22:30 PM
You know, the funny thing is....

Mentzer looked great in 77, 78, 79.... he had an awesome,  powerful physique. In fact Arnold's Education of a Bodybuilder was the reason I started lifting at 13 / 14 years old until my mid 20's but then I quit for s long time until my late 40's when I came across a thread of Mike mentzer pictures and saw his most muscular shot on muscle rock, I was so motivated I began lifting again and haven't stopped since

I started again by using his training methods (since it was his phpho that inspired me) but I quickly found that he didn't build his physique with those methods and those methods don't work! I switched to a more conventional volume workout,  which not inly worked but was more fun.

The worst thing about mentzer is his annoying fans who loved repeating everything he says, while not making any progress!
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 17, 2024, 12:34:28 AM
That's every single person who ascribes to Heavy Duty philosophy.  Half of them haven't trained since the 80's and the other half looks like shit.

John little parrots the most idiotic shit that mentzer used to say. He prefaces most of his stories by saying something like "this is nothing against Arnold, he was a great bodybuilder  BUT

Can you imagine how much better he could've been had he not overtrained?

Or

At everyone says he was the 6th or 7th best bodybuilder on stage that day.

The argument these guys always make for how great mentzer was is how well he did against the worst version of Arnold who ever stepped on stage....

It's like everyone saying Trevor Berbick is better than Muhammad Ali, lol... preposterous
This. Some of those (s)HIT warriors post their own videos. They look like complete shit when they start and they use some excuse (like work) for not working out in years. The first few workouts they act amazed that they are getting stronger every workout not realizing it's just muscle memory. After 3 or 4 weeks the experiment must have stopped because there are no more videos.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 17, 2024, 04:36:32 PM
Most of the big guys like the guys on thinkbig bodybuilding YouTube said they built the vast majority of their size on brief and infrequent training ie. Dog crap training

So how do you explain this? Dog crap is not volume training btw

Easy. They don't. They've used other methods to get big.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 17, 2024, 04:39:23 PM
This. Some of those (s)HIT warriors post their own videos. They look like complete shit when they start and they use some excuse (like work) for not working out in years. The first few workouts they act amazed that they are getting stronger every workout not realizing it's just muscle memory. After 3 or 4 weeks the experiment must have stopped because there are no more videos.

Exactly. Then you get the real delusional ones that claim they've made "phenomenal" gains on HD hit yet never show any evidence. The hit cult are the flat earthers of the bodybuilding community. They're a joke.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: irishdave on June 17, 2024, 04:41:21 PM
He never did a HIT to gain his mass. His frame was built before he was 25 and peaked in 77 with high volume training.
After retiring, he was nothing more than a salesman of dreams until the final absurdity of his ultimate 90s training program.
He never trained Dorian.
The only guy who trained intensively, heavy with extra short sessions besides Dorian was Lee Labrada.

This makes the most sense and I have friends who totally buy into HIT and I don’t want to insult royalty however Yates and the boys are lying if they say they achieved that mass without volume in the beginnings
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 17, 2024, 04:42:53 PM
You know, the funny thing is....

Mentzer looked great in 77, 78, 79.... he had an awesome,  powerful physique. In fact Arnold's Education of a Bodybuilder was the reason I started lifting at 13 / 14 years old until my mid 20's but then I quit for s long time until my late 40's when I came across a thread of Mike mentzer pictures and saw his most muscular shot on muscle rock, I was so motivated I began lifting again and haven't stopped since

I started again by using his training methods (since it was his phpho that inspired me) but I quickly found that he didn't build his physique with those methods and those methods don't work! I switched to a more conventional volume workout,  which not inly worked but was more fun.

The worst thing about mentzer is his annoying fans who loved repeating everything he says, while not making any progress!

Bingo. 5 decades of hit and it still has a very dismal success rate.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2024, 12:08:34 AM
This makes the most sense and I have friends who totally buy into HIT and I don’t want to insult royalty however Yates and the boys are lying if they say they achieved that mass without volume in the beginnings
Why would you not want to insult Royalty? He's a walking insult.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 18, 2024, 04:00:45 AM
This makes the most sense and I have friends who totally buy into HIT and I don’t want to insult royalty however Yates and the boys are lying if they say they achieved that mass without volume in the beginnings

Correct. There has never been a successful hit only bodybuilder. Never.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 19, 2024, 12:06:56 AM
Correct. There has never been a successful hit only bodybuilder. Never.
John Heart would probably disagree.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Royalty on June 19, 2024, 03:54:04 AM
RMJ11/Beakdoctor/Humble Narcissist (same person)

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Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 19, 2024, 04:40:45 AM
John Heart would probably disagree.

Course he would. He's another snake oil salesman.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 19, 2024, 06:33:03 AM
Course he would. He's another snake oil salesman.

Here's the gig cheif

Do whatever fucking program allows you to increase your training loads as that's the program that works for you

End of fucking story
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 19, 2024, 09:25:12 AM
Here's the gig cheif

Do whatever fucking program allows you to increase your training loads as that's the program that works for you

End of fucking story

Nope. It's not that simple.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 19, 2024, 09:31:23 AM
Nope. It's not that simple.

So how do you get bigger, get weaker?
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Henda on June 19, 2024, 02:47:01 PM
I think a lot of the results from hit comes from the de-fatiguing from the high volume routine prior, I got caught up in this and wasted years switching from Arnold style routines to Stuart mcRobert “hardgainer” shit initially grew and thought I’d found the holy grail and stuck with the shit for years, just switching from 1 set to 3 was a big difference then to a more moderate volume 8-12 sets per body part finally found out what worked. 1set to failure per
Body part has shown in studies to just about maintain gains that’s it. Plus who the fuck wants to do 1 working set per body part a week ffs
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 19, 2024, 02:57:42 PM
Here's the gig cheif

Do whatever fucking program allows you to increase your training loads as that's the program that works for you

End of fucking story

You wanna be big?

Pick the right parents and be born big.

Anything else is pushing a really big rock up a really big mountain.

Period, end of story.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Royalty on June 19, 2024, 03:26:05 PM
You wanna be big?

Pick the right parents and be born big.

Anything else is pushing a really big rock up a really big mountain.

Period, end of story.

This coming from a person with extremely tiny hands
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 19, 2024, 04:21:14 PM
i talked to casey viator a few times way back in 2003

casey told me he had to do high sets for shows to get that polished look he said arnold helped him alot as far as contest training goes. but casey had nothing but good things to say about mike and arnold casey was way more level headed 
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: beakdoctor on June 19, 2024, 07:30:21 PM
i talked to casey viator a few times way back in 2003

casey told me he had to do high sets for shows to get that polished look he said arnold helped him alot as far as contest training goes. but casey had nothing but good things to say about mike and arnold casey was way more level headed

Casey seemed cool as hell. Just a mellow dude. One of those interviews on the bodybuilding legends show, I think it might've been Boyer Coe, said Casey loved recreational drugs. Liked to party, liked to get high.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: pamith on June 19, 2024, 08:26:57 PM
Brutal if true
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 20, 2024, 12:09:12 AM
i talked to casey viator a few times way back in 2003

casey told me he had to do high sets for shows to get that polished look he said arnold helped him alot as far as contest training goes. but casey had nothing but good things to say about mike and arnold casey was way more level headed
Yes, I remember reading about his training routine in the 80's and it was high volume.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 20, 2024, 04:40:07 AM
Yes, I remember reading about his training routine in the 80's and it was high volume.

Compare his stage weight to what he weighed doing hit Vs volume, therein will lie your answer

Me thinks he probably weighed bout the same
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 20, 2024, 04:42:57 AM
So how do you get bigger, get weaker?

EAT
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 20, 2024, 03:58:00 PM
So how do you get bigger, get weaker?

Lots of sets and lots of food.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 20, 2024, 05:52:48 PM
Eating more?

Nope!

You will just get fatter and fatter and fatter so I'm not interested in wasting my time and money that way

So... Thanks but no thanks

If you are increasing your training loads to greater and greater numbers which I am currently doing, then yep you can eat just a little bit more coz that is the true signal for muscle hypertrophy not increased calories

And get this

You only need to increase your calories slightly like maybe 100 calories over maintenance and if you increase it more than that yep you'll add muscle but you will also and fat so fuck that noise!

Get this one pound of muscle tissue only has 600 calories so if you gain a pound of muscle a week you only need 600 extra calories over the entire week to add it, that's basically less than 100 calories a day
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 21, 2024, 12:21:11 AM
So how do you get bigger, get weaker?
Hypertrophy and strength are two different things.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 21, 2024, 12:47:21 AM
Eating more?

Nope!

You will just get fatter and fatter and fatter so I'm not interested in wasting my time and money that way

So... Thanks but no thanks

If you are increasing your training loads to greater and greater numbers which I am currently doing, then yep you can eat just a little bit more coz that is the true signal for muscle hypertrophy not increased calories

And get this

You only need to increase your calories slightly like maybe 100 calories over maintenance and if you increase it more than that yep you'll add muscle but you will also and fat so fuck that noise!

Get this one pound of muscle tissue only has 600 calories so if you gain a pound of muscle a week you only need 600 extra calories over the entire week to add it, that's basically less than 100 calories a day

Wrong again. You're obviously are not doing enough.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 04:04:53 AM
Eating more?

Nope!

You will just get fatter and fatter and fatter so I'm not interested in wasting my time and money that way

So... Thanks but no thanks

If you are increasing your training loads to greater and greater numbers which I am currently doing, then yep you can eat just a little bit more coz that is the true signal for muscle hypertrophy not increased calories

And get this

You only need to increase your calories slightly like maybe 100 calories over maintenance and if you increase it more than that yep you'll add muscle but you will also and fat so fuck that noise!

Get this one pound of muscle tissue only has 600 calories so if you gain a pound of muscle a week you only need 600 extra calories over the entire week to add it, that's basically less than 100 calories a day

HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON WHO THINKS THEY CAN GET BIGGER WITHOUT GAINING AN OUNCE OF FAT???? WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK PEOPLE BULK??? OBVIOULSY YOU WILL GAIN SOME FAT AND HOLD SOME WATER WHEN BULKING. SO WHAT YOU ALSO GAIN MUSCLE THEN YOU CUT CALORIES BACK AND LOSE THE FAT AND WATER. THAT IS HOW EVERY OTHER PERSON ADDS MUSCLE WHY DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DIFFERENT?????

NEWSFLASH YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS FOR FOOD MUCH LESS GEAR YOU WILL NEVER GET BIGGER BECAUSE YOU DONT EAT AND CANT AFFORD GEAR AND FOOD ANYWAY. FOR FUCK SAKE YOU DONT HAVE BUS FARE SURVIVE ON 30 A WEEK OF GROCERIES AND LIVE IN A ROOM RENTED BY YOUR MOM. YOU CAN NOT AFFORD THIS HOBBY BUT KEEP OBSESSING OVER THE CYCLES YOU CANT AFFORD THAT THE PROS WHO ARE EATING 6K CALORIES A DAY ARE TAKING
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 04:08:53 AM
HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON WHO THINKS THEY CAN GET BIGGER WITHOUT GAINING AN OUNCE OF FAT???? WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK PEOPLE BULK??? OBVIOULSY YOU WILL GAIN SOME FAT AND HOLD SOME WATER WHEN BULKING. SO WHAT YOU ALSO GAIN MUSCLE THEN YOU CUT CALORIES BACK AND LOSE THE FAT AND WATER. THAT IS HOW EVERY OTHER PERSON ADDS MUSCLE WHY DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DIFFERENT?????

NEWSFLASH YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS FOR FOOD MUCH LESS GEAR YOU WILL NEVER GET BIGGER BECAUSE YOU DONT EAT AND CANT AFFORD GEAR AND FOOD ANYWAY. FOR FUCK SAKE YOU DONT HAVE BUS FARE SURVIVE ON 30 A WEEK OF GROCERIES AND LIVE IN A ROOM RENTED BY YOUR MOM. YOU CAN NOT AFFORD THIS HOBBY BUT KEEP OBSESSING OVER THE CYCLES YOU CANT AFFORD THAT THE PROS WHO ARE EATING 6K CALORIES A DAY ARE TAKING


says the man who was 210 at 20 and now after 25 years of steroid and peptide use is 207.

way to go big man

if we wanted to learn anything off you art would be how to cause trouble then run away like a bitch. or how to get tapped out in one round.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 04:28:07 AM

says the man who was 210 at 20 and now after 25 years of steroid and peptide use is 207.

way to go big man

if we wanted to learn anything off you art would be how to cause trouble then run away like a bitch. or how to get tapped out in one round.

Are you daft do you think it is the same 210lbs do you think it looks the same? Also, so what I was lifting weights 2 hours a day 6 days a week at 20 it was my life. The fact that I am anywhere near comparable at 46 years old is amazing. Write whatever nonsense you want you don't look like this DJ does not look like this. I may be 208lbs but I am also single digit bodyfat and vascular with 18.5 inch arms I also have tight abs go ahead zoom in you can see veins on my sides and everywhere else shoulders, chest, arms, legs, traps, you name it you can see vascularity in it. You are nowhere near my level and everyone knows it you just want to argue with me instead of actually trying to help DJ.

The guy is clearly suffering from anorexia amongst other issues and this fucking board just wants to tell him he looks great and encourage him to try and get a 26 inch waist and take more gear and train harder while eating less. Is anyone planning to go to his funeral?
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 04:33:50 AM
Brian nobody wants to see yet another unsolicited photo of you touting for cawk you big queen.

Your posts are irrelevant


You are a lying coward

The only fights you've had as an adult were 0-3 MMA

You were claiming you would stab people. You've never done that Brian have you?

25 years of gear net loss 3 lbs.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 04:43:52 AM
Brian nobody wants to see yet another unsolicited photo of you touting for cawk you big queen.

Your posts are irrelevant


You are a lying coward

The only fights you've had as an adult were 0-3 MMA

You were claiming you would stab people. You've never done that Brian have you?

25 years of gear net loss 3 lbs.

Is this an MMA board or a bodybuilding board?

When I broke my wrist in high school I had to put it in a cast. It was mid wrestling season when it happened. I sawed the to part off early and this kid Paul decided it was time to pick a fight with me because I was in a cast. I hit him anyway with my broken wrist. I then sawed the rest off a few weeks later and took 2nd in states despite missing half the season with a broken wrist. It is still crooked now either from hitting Paul it never healed right.

When I had one of my shoulder surgeries I went to a bar a week later on painkillers in a sling. I got jumped by like half a dozen guys outside the bar. The shoulder never healed right.

When I get my pec done I am carrying a blade until I am fully recovered. I will absolutely stab a guy who tries to fight me. My pec is going to heal right.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 04:47:35 AM
Is this an MMA board or a bodybuilding board?

When I broke my wrist in high school I had to put it in a cast. It was mid wrestling season when it happened. I sawed the to part off early and this kid Paul decided it was time to pick a fight with me because I was in a cast. I hit him anyway with my broken wrist. I then sawed the rest off a few weeks later and took 2nd in states despite missing half the season with a broken wrist. It is still crooked now either from hitting Paul it never healed right.

When I had one of my shoulder surgeries I went to a bar a week later on painkillers in a sling. I got jumped by like half a dozen guys outside the bar. The shoulder never healed right.

When I get my pec done I am carrying a blade until I am fully recovered. I will absolutely stab a guy who tries to fight me. My pec is going to heal right.

1) you are not an MMA fighter you failed or a bodybulder- you do over 45s physique/

2) this was the same time you were fighting every lunch and recess. Brian keep up on your lies

3) THIS NEVER HAPPENED

4) So Brian have you ever stabbed anyone? I say you haven't. so YOU ARE MAKING STUFF up again.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 05:00:16 AM
1) you are not an MMA fighter you failed or a bodybulder- you do over 45s physique/

2) this was the same time you were fighting every lunch and recess. Brian keep up on your lies

3) THIS NEVER HAPPENED

4) So Brian have you ever stabbed anyone? I say you haven't. so YOU ARE MAKING STUFF up again.

I am heading to the pool have fun arguing with yourself
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 05:17:33 AM
Good!

Don't come back or you will get embarrassed again.

Every time.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 21, 2024, 06:11:45 AM
Hypertrophy and strength are two different things.

So if I can do 6 chinups with bodyweight to failure and then say 3 months later can do 6 reps to failure with 75 pounds added round my waist my delts lats and bis will not increase in size?
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 21, 2024, 06:28:04 AM
Kevin would lose fat and gain muscle at the same time same thing with mentzer so you don't need a surplus to gan muscle its called recomp dummy

Thing is I don't have much more fat I can lose and I think I've already gained a pound of fat back since I added 1/2 to my waist so what's that mean? It means I ate too many calories the last few days so I have to drop the cals back a bit

Anyways now I probably have like 3 pounds of fat I can lose which is like 10,000 calories so I'm going back to a slight deficit

Actually now is the time for tren as it really shines as a recomp drug the best one BY FAR but I can't take tren as it flares my mania and it's the most toxic drug of all so I'm done with it

Thing is I just added in creatine monohydrate so that will rev things up too

Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 06:56:48 AM
Kevin would lose fat and gain muscle at the same time same thing with mentzer so you don't need a surplus to gan muscle its called recomp dummy

Thing is I don't have much more fat I can lose and I think I've already gained a pound of fat back since I added 1/2 to my waist so what's that mean? It means I ate too many calories the last few days so I have to drop the cals back a bit

Anyways now I probably have like 3 pounds of fat I can lose which is like 10,000 calories so I'm going back to a slight deficit

Actually now is the time for tren as it really shines as a recomp drug the best one BY FAR but I can't take tren as it flares my mania and it's the most toxic drug of all so I'm done with it

Thing is I just added in creatine monohydrate so that will rev things up too

Amazing how you can defy the laws of physics

So less food more drugs? This will not end well
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: webstar on June 21, 2024, 07:00:21 AM
I am heading to the pool have fun arguing with yourself

Shouldn't you prepping for your panel interview?
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 07:30:00 AM
leave him webstar he is

a) in the best of health for decades
b) moderately in pain


he was amazingly both yesterday
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 07:31:00 AM
brian

dont forget according to your pst earlier this week you are picking up your pet chimp today. 8 hour round trip driving.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: GymnJuice on June 21, 2024, 11:06:42 AM
Is this an MMA board or a bodybuilding board?

When I broke my wrist in high school I had to put it in a cast. It was mid wrestling season when it happened. I sawed the to part off early and this kid Paul decided it was time to pick a fight with me because I was in a cast. I hit him anyway with my broken wrist. I then sawed the rest off a few weeks later and took 2nd in states despite missing half the season with a broken wrist. It is still crooked now either from hitting Paul it never healed right.

When I had one of my shoulder surgeries I went to a bar a week later on painkillers in a sling. I got jumped by like half a dozen guys outside the bar. The shoulder never healed right.

When I get my pec done I am carrying a blade until I am fully recovered. I will absolutely stab a guy who tries to fight me. My pec is going to heal right.

Amazing you're still alive. How did you make it through that? Did the 6 guys attack you one at a time like in kung fu movies?
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: illuminati on June 21, 2024, 11:32:39 AM
Is this an MMA board or a bodybuilding board?

When I broke my wrist in high school I had to put it in a cast. It was mid wrestling season when it happened. I sawed the to part off early and this kid Paul decided it was time to pick a fight with me because I was in a cast. I hit him anyway with my broken wrist. I then sawed the rest off a few weeks later and took 2nd in states despite missing half the season with a broken wrist. It is still crooked now either from hitting Paul it never healed right.

When I had one of my shoulder surgeries I went to a bar a week later on painkillers in a sling. I got jumped by like half a dozen guys outside the bar. The shoulder never healed right.

When I get my pec done I am carrying a blade until I am fully recovered. I will absolutely stab a guy who tries to fight me. My pec is going to heal right.



::)  These things never happened in real life Cup Cake
Yet More Delusional Lies - Totally pathetic Bianca as you've run
away from every offer to fight on here.

Fuck off you lying Khvnt.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 12:00:05 PM
I wonder what happened against the six imaginary thugs

An imaginary victory to imaginary fighter Brian trust fund

With him turning to the bar owner ‘ have you got a brush I gots to take the garbage out ‘

And everyone stood up
And applauded
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: joswift on June 21, 2024, 12:26:03 PM
I wonder what happened against the six imaginary thugs

An imaginary victory to imaginary fighter Brian trust fund

With him turning to the bar owner ‘ have you got a brush I gots to take the garbage out ‘

And everyone stood up
And applauded

1 min 8 seconds in
=70
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 21, 2024, 01:06:11 PM
Not this shit again. If you want to train heavy with low sets do it. If you want to do volume with medium weights then do it. I think any one that puts down the other side is insecure about their training. Why else would you be so passionate about arguing about this stuff? On lifting boards I use to think HIT guys in the 90’s, 2000’s and little beyond were the biggest ass holes about how HIT was the only way to Nirvana.  They acted like religious zealots. Now it has switched to volume guys preaching their Gospel.  Who gives a fuck if one guys uses four different exercises for chest for one work set to failure or does 20 sets? 
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: illuminati on June 21, 2024, 01:55:42 PM
We really do have some seriously disturbed folk on Getbig

The Delusional Lying Twat

The one stuck in 1980 Mr Olympia

The One fixated with Mike Mentzer & the like & how they did
or did not train

And of Course those that fell for & still believe the china virus / vaccine lies

 ::)



Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: ilalin on June 21, 2024, 02:10:41 PM
I'm gonna quickly chime in.

Higher volume coupled with lower weights is good for a metabolic type of training. You affect Type I, or slow-twitch, fibers that possess slower twitch speeds and are relatively fatigue resistant.
Lower volume coupled with higher weights is good for Type IIa fibers, or fast oxidative that are less fatigue resistant.

This is not a conspiracy. You can search on PubMed. It also works nicely for naturals. Or should I say 100% lifetime, non-provoked, full-scale natural?
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 21, 2024, 02:34:09 PM
I'm gonna quickly chime in.

Higher volume coupled with lower weights is good for a metabolic type of training. You affect Type I, or slow-twitch, fibers that possess slower twitch speeds and are relatively fatigue resistant.
Lower volume coupled with higher weights is good for Type IIa fibers, or fast oxidative that are less fatigue resistant.

This is not a conspiracy. You can search on PubMed. It also works nicely for naturals. Or should I say 100% lifetime, non-provoked, full-scale natural?

The only thing that matters is.... Do your training poundages increase over time?

If not then you are not going to add size simple as that

Whatever method that allows you to increase training poundages over time is the one that works for you

If you bench press 150 pounds for 10 and then 2 years later bench press 300 pounds for 10 you will have bigger pecs delts and triceps

Period end of story
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 02:57:12 PM
The only thing that matters is.... Do your training poundages increase over time?

If not then you are not going to add size simple as that

Whatever method that allows you to increase training poundages over time is the one that works for you

If you bench press 150 pounds for 10 and then 2 years later bench press 300 pounds for 10 you will have bigger pecs delts and triceps

Period end of story

Ok but you couldn't bench 300 for 1 if your life depended on it
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: joswift on June 21, 2024, 03:16:32 PM
Ok but you couldn't bench 300 for 1 if your life depended on it
(https://i.ibb.co/S3Bf61x/nfYyalVg.jpg)
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 03:21:23 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/S3Bf61x/nfYyalVg.jpg)

I dont even know what that is supposed to be looks nothing like me. All this says is Jeff spent hours playing photoshop with gay porn again
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: joswift on June 21, 2024, 03:22:07 PM
I dont even know what that is supposed to be looks nothing like me. All this says is Jeff spent hours playing photoshop with gay porn again
(https://i.ibb.co/S3Bf61x/nfYyalVg.jpg)
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 04:38:45 PM
I dont even know what that is supposed to be looks nothing like me. All this says is Jeff spent hours playing photoshop with gay porn again

ture

hes got pecs and thighs twig boy
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 21, 2024, 04:40:52 PM
1) you are not an MMA fighter you failed or a bodybulder- you do over 45s physique/

2) this was the same time you were fighting every lunch and recess. Brian keep up on your lies

3) THIS NEVER HAPPENED

4) So Brian have you ever stabbed anyone? I say you haven't. so YOU ARE MAKING STUFF up again.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 21, 2024, 04:43:37 PM
Ok but you couldn't bench 300 for 1 if your life depended on it

Never said I could but if I could bench 300 for 10 I'd have much bigger pecs delts and tris

It ain't easy adding load to the bar but I have been increasing weights and reps the last few weeks and I plan on continuing to do so

I get a much better pec contraction on machines so I stick with them it's fucking stupid to do an exercise that doesn't work the targeted muscle well and the barbell bench press is the number one pec ripper so fuck that
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: delon on June 21, 2024, 04:55:35 PM
Is this an MMA board or a bodybuilding board?

When I broke my wrist in high school I had to put it in a cast. It was mid wrestling season when it happened. I sawed the to part off early and this kid Paul decided it was time to pick a fight with me because I was in a cast. I hit him anyway with my broken wrist. I then sawed the rest off a few weeks later and took 2nd in states despite missing half the season with a broken wrist. It is still crooked now either from hitting Paul it never healed right.

When I had one of my shoulder surgeries I went to a bar a week later on painkillers in a sling. I got jumped by like half a dozen guys outside the bar. The shoulder never healed right.

When I get my pec done I am carrying a blade until I am fully recovered. I will absolutely stab a guy who tries to fight me. My pec is going to heal right.


Bhank why did 6 guys take it upon themselves to beat you up outside the bar ??  Obviously it wasnt your fault as you never start anything, but what was their flawed reasoning for doing so?



Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: bhank on June 21, 2024, 06:33:57 PM
Never said I could but if I could bench 300 for 10 I'd have much bigger pecs delts and tris

It ain't easy adding load to the bar but I have been increasing weights and reps the last few weeks and I plan on continuing to do so

I get a much better pec contraction on machines so I stick with them it's fucking stupid to do an exercise that doesn't work the targeted muscle well and the barbell bench press is the number one pec ripper so fuck that

You stick to machines to hide how weak you are on bench press you would have to eat to get stronger and bigger which you don't do machines will not add any size to you when you are 157lbs and cutting calories

You are not going to get leaner losing more weight you are just cannibalizing muscle tissue you need to add about 20lbs just to get back to a healthy look you are killing yourself
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 22, 2024, 05:26:47 AM
You stick to machines to hide how weak you are on bench press you would have to eat to get stronger and bigger which you don't do machines will not add any size to you when you are 157lbs and cutting calories

You are not going to get leaner losing more weight you are just cannibalizing muscle tissue you need to add about 20lbs just to get back to a healthy look you are killing yourself

My genetics wound never allow me to be 180 in this condition

I'm not that delusional

I've got conditioning genetics not size genetics
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: joswift on June 22, 2024, 05:28:35 AM
You stick to machines to hide how weak you are on bench press you would have to eat to get stronger and bigger which you don't do machines will not add any size to you when you are 157lbs and cutting calories

You are not going to get leaner losing more weight you are just cannibalizing muscle tissue you need to add about 20lbs just to get back to a healthy look you are killing yourself
and you need to drop 20lbs to get in show condition
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: 38 returns on June 22, 2024, 05:31:52 AM
You stick to machines to hide how weak you are on bench press you would have to eat to get stronger and bigger which you don't do machines will not add any size to you when you are 157lbs and cutting calories

You are not going to get leaner losing more weight you are just cannibalizing muscle tissue you need to add about 20lbs just to get back to a healthy look you are killing yourself
Oi bell end

Nathan de Asha benches 230kg

But trains exclusively on machines

so another theory of has goes.

it doesn't matter what you are doing as long as you are working harder

brain you consider 5 sets of leg extension a workout

everyone else considers it a warm up

you bitch
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: dj181 on June 22, 2024, 05:50:17 AM
Oi bell end

Nathan de Asha benches 230kg

But trains exclusively on machines

so another theory of has goes.

it doesn't matter what you are doing as long as you are working harder

brain you consider 5 sets of leg extension a workout

everyone else considers it a warm up

you bitch

I'm not sure if he really believes this shit he types or if he just enjoys being a dickhead

Muscles don't know if it's a barbell dumbbell machine etc they just know if it's a sufficiently heavy load to stimulate it
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on June 23, 2024, 08:38:11 AM
If you want to train heavy with low sets don't do it because it doesn't work.

If you want to do volume with medium/heavy weights then do it because that does work.

Any one that puts down the other side is secure about their training and find that real world results always trumps theory.

Anyone with passionate for facts would be arguing about this stuff.

On lifting boards HIT guys in the 90’s, 2000’s and little beyond were the biggest ass holes about how HIT was the only way to Nirvana.  They acted like religious zealots. And they still do.   

Who gives a fuck if one guys uses four different exercises for chest for one work set to failure or does 20 sets? Obviously you do.

Fixed.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 23, 2024, 09:59:59 AM
Fixed.

You think you're clever changing my words around but you're just an insecure jerk. You post like a mental patient. Spend more time training and working toward a career than posting your nonsense.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on July 13, 2024, 01:16:29 PM
You think you're clever changing my words around but you're just an insecure jerk. You post like a mental patient. Spend more time training and working toward a career than posting your nonsense.
Facts do not care about your feelings.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: illuminati on July 13, 2024, 01:21:12 PM
You think you're clever changing my words around but you're just an insecure jerk. You post like a mental patient. Spend more time training and working toward a career than posting your nonsense.

Its his go to default as he's so thick & stupid he can't come up with
anything else himself.
Very Clearly a Sub normal reject obsessed with HIT  ::)
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2024, 02:18:35 PM
Its his go to default as he's so thick & stupid he can't come up with
anything else himself.
Very Clearly a Sub normal reject obsessed with HIT  ::)

Like I said train the way you want. If you're obsessed with telling the other guy is wrong it shows he lacks confidence. HIT guys use to be rude assholes to anyone that didn't train the way they did. Now RMJ has reversed it preaching the volume side like a religious zealot. 

Casey Viator use volume and plenty of it for his best ever condition for the 1982 Olympia.  A guy that posted here whose name escapes me use to write for Ironman. He said he counted Casey's sets and he counted 16 for one body part when he was in the gym with him.

In the track world guys that train for the sprints don't go out for long distance runs. They are doing short hard repeats. The hardest sprint event is the 400 meters. You will never hear a 400 meter runner say to a 10K guy your training is easy because you use volume to train. On the same token you will never hear a 10K guy say to a 400 meter guy your training is easy because you hard high intensity repeats of 800 meters to 100 meter repeats and never go for 10 mile runs. Both are hard training. Yet in the lifting world one side always insults the other.

I realize why Arnold got mad when Mentzer said your training is easy. Arnold busted his ass day in and day out. It's apples to oranges. If intensity was the key we would all be doing sets of one rep to work out in the most intense possible manner.

My opinion doesn't matter. Train the way you want. For a busy guy a high intensity routine like Yates will take you far without the crazy time commitment. I do think muscles get bigger through muscular endurance training as in volume. When I do one set to failure I look good. When I do two working sets close to failure per exercise I look better.  Nothing wrong with using 3 or 6 sets of an exercise either. Just a different type of stimulus.  A person using 6 sets of a barbell curl might do the first 5 sets stopping before failure and the last set to failure. That's a lot time under tension and certainly hits the check marks for using muscular endurance.

I think Jeff Everson talking about the topic said it best, "Until pigs fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuilder."
On a side not Jeff was watching the ABC's Superstars show and watched Big Lou and Mentzer struggle with push jerking 300lbs. Jeff went into the gym the same day as the program aired and did it ten times in a row.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on July 14, 2024, 12:18:03 AM
Its my go to default as I'm so thick & stupid I can't come up with
anything else myself.
I'm Very Clearly a Sub normal reject obsessed with HIT  ::)

You sure are
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on July 14, 2024, 12:20:25 AM
Like I said train the way you want. If you're obsessed with telling the other guy is wrong it shows he lacks confidence. HIT guys use to be rude assholes to anyone that didn't train the way they did. Now RMJ has reversed it preaching the volume side like a religious zealot. 

Casey Viator use volume and plenty of it for his best ever condition for the 1982 Olympia.  A guy that posted here whose name escapes me use to write for Ironman. He said he counted Casey's sets and he counted 16 for one body part when he was in the gym with him.

In the track world guys that train for the sprints don't go out for long distance runs. They are doing short hard repeats. The hardest sprint event is the 400 meters. You will never hear a 400 meter runner say to a 10K guy your training is easy because you use volume to train. On the same token you will never hear a 10K guy say to a 400 meter guy your training is easy because you hard high intensity repeats of 800 meters to 100 meter repeats and never go for 10 mile runs. Both are hard training. Yet in the lifting world one side always insults the other.

I realize why Arnold got mad when Mentzer said your training is easy. Arnold busted his ass day in and day out. It's apples to oranges. If intensity was the key we would all be doing sets of one rep to work out in the most intense possible manner.

My opinion doesn't matter. Train the way you want. For a busy guy a high intensity routine like Yates will take you far without the crazy time commitment. I do think muscles get bigger through muscular endurance training as in volume. When I do one set to failure I look good. When I do two working sets close to failure per exercise I look better.  Nothing wrong with using 3 or 6 sets of an exercise either. Just a different type of stimulus.  A person using 6 sets of a barbell curl might do the first 5 sets stopping before failure and the last set to failure. That's a lot time under tension and certainly hits the check marks for using muscular endurance.

I think Jeff Everson talking about the topic said it best, "Until pigs fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuilder."
On a side not Jeff was watching the ABC's Superstars show and watched Big Lou and Mentzer struggle with push jerking 300lbs. Jeff went into the gym the same day as the program aired and did it ten times in a row.

If you did more sets you would look way better.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: illuminati on July 14, 2024, 12:24:46 AM
You sure are

You just proved me Correct.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Rmj11 on July 21, 2024, 01:42:42 AM
I just proved you correct.

Exactly.
Title: Re: More lies from Little John
Post by: Dalnet on July 21, 2024, 06:33:09 AM

When I had one of my shoulder surgeries I went to a bar a week later on painkillers in a sling. I got jumped by like half a dozen guys outside the bar. The shoulder never healed right.

When I get my pec done I am carrying a blade until I am fully recovered. I will absolutely stab a guy who tries to fight me. My pec is going to heal right.

I've been to hundreds of bars. Never once been jumped by one guy, let alone half a dozen. What kind of aura are you giving off for that to happen?

You sound like you're looking for trouble wherever you go. Aren't you past that phase in your life, now? Can't you get a gun permit where you are? That would make more sense.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on July 21, 2024, 05:19:26 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 22, 2024, 12:59:28 AM
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But only for one set.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on July 22, 2024, 04:31:56 AM
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Yeah, didn't enjoy it much since HIT guys are too brief. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 22, 2024, 11:36:46 PM
Yeah, didn't enjoy it much since HIT guys are too brief. Very disappointing.
Yeah, they only last a minute but at least it's a fuck to failure. ;D
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on August 29, 2024, 02:35:25 PM
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Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: beakdoctor on August 29, 2024, 02:38:36 PM
Royalty is posting FAR beyond what is optimal.  If done correctly,  Royalty should only post once every 6 or 7 days.

Anything beyond that is over posting. Something Royalty is guilty of. It's why his posts suck. If he were to post less he'd be a much better poster but he insists on a volume approach and his progress has stalled.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on August 29, 2024, 02:43:00 PM
Royalty is posting FAR beyond what is optimal.  If done correctly,  Royalty should only post once every 6 or 7 days.

Anything beyond that is over posting. Something Royalty is guilty of. It's why his posts suck. If he were to post less he'd be a much better poster but he insists on a volume approach and his progress has stalled.

Posting about posting
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: beakdoctor on August 29, 2024, 04:47:11 PM
Posting about posting

No. I was posting about an idiot. Turns out you're too much of an idiot to have "gotten it."
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rambone on August 29, 2024, 05:06:48 PM
Arnold was high on Korean Kocaine in ‘80
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on August 29, 2024, 05:30:16 PM
Paul Graham was stockpiling Calgon in 80’. It was the only thing that kept the semen stains from becoming permanent.


Arnold’s anus was stockpiling Paul Graham’s “pollen”.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: beakdoctor on August 29, 2024, 10:06:24 PM
Paul Graham was stockpiling Calgon in 80’. It was the only thing that kept the semen stains from becoming permanent.


Arnold’s anus was stockpiling Paul Graham’s “pollen”.

The G&O forum unfortunately is stockpiled with your shitty posts, witless humor and latent homosexuality.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: bigbychoices on August 30, 2024, 07:14:11 AM
   Why doesn't this ass clown guy that calls himself "royalty" get banned and banned for life? He brings NOTHING positive to this forum. He posts the same crap al the time. He does it just to get people upset and argue etc. So everyone just stop responding to this ass clown. He then will just go back into his moms basement where he has a dildo attached to a halloween skeleton ( so it looks more like mentzer in his prime) and then happily take it up his ass  until he jacks off onto the skeletons mouth ( mentzers) mouth! ( just the way Mike liked it)  Then after taking his ass off his fake mentzer he will clean the dildo with his mouth and then go up and kiss and lick his own cum off the skeleton ( mentzer in his prime) Then he will repeat it each and every day . So mods please ban this guy
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: illuminati on August 30, 2024, 07:57:41 AM
   Why doesn't this ass clown guy that calls himself "royalty" get banned and banned for life? He brings NOTHING positive to this forum. He posts the same crap al the time. He does it just to get people upset and argue etc. So everyone just stop responding to this ass clown. He then will just go back into his moms basement where he has a dildo attached to a halloween skeleton ( so it looks more like mentzer in his prime) and then happily take it up his ass  until he jacks off onto the skeletons mouth ( mentzers) mouth! ( just the way Mike liked it)  Then after taking his ass off his fake mentzer he will clean the dildo with his mouth and then go up and kiss and lick his own cum off the skeleton ( mentzer in his prime) Then he will repeat it each and every day . So mods please ban this guy


Same goes for RimJob 1001 & Bianca Bhanks - Banned for life & then some.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: beakdoctor on August 30, 2024, 08:46:57 AM
   Why doesn't this ass clown guy that calls himself "royalty" get banned and banned for life? He brings NOTHING positive to this forum. He posts the same crap al the time. He does it just to get people upset and argue etc. So everyone just stop responding to this ass clown. He then will just go back into his moms basement where he has a dildo attached to a halloween skeleton ( so it looks more like mentzer in his prime) and then happily take it up his ass  until he jacks off onto the skeletons mouth ( mentzers) mouth! ( just the way Mike liked it)  Then after taking his ass off his fake mentzer he will clean the dildo with his mouth and then go up and kiss and lick his own cum off the skeleton ( mentzer in his prime) Then he will repeat it each and every day . So mods please ban this guy

Excellent point.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on August 30, 2024, 02:17:31 PM
   Why doesn't this ass clown guy that calls himself "royalty" get banned and banned for life? He brings NOTHING positive to this forum. He posts the same crap al the time. He does it just to get people upset and argue etc. So everyone just stop responding to this ass clown. He then will just go back into his moms basement where he has a dildo attached to a halloween skeleton ( so it looks more like mentzer in his prime) and then happily take it up his ass  until he jacks off onto the skeletons mouth ( mentzers) mouth! ( just the way Mike liked it)  Then after taking his ass off his fake mentzer he will clean the dildo with his mouth and then go up and kiss and lick his own cum off the skeleton ( mentzer in his prime) Then he will repeat it each and every day . So mods please ban this guy


Hi Beakdoctor. 
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on August 30, 2024, 02:24:05 PM

Same goes for RimJob 1001 & Bianca Bhanks - Banned for life & then some.

Beakdoctor is RMJ11 and Bigbychoices


They all have the EXACT same hatred towards Mentzer. They even use the same wording.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 31, 2024, 12:40:29 AM
   Why doesn't this ass clown guy that calls himself "royalty" get banned and banned for life? He brings NOTHING positive to this forum. He posts the same crap al the time. He does it just to get people upset and argue etc. So everyone just stop responding to this ass clown. He then will just go back into his moms basement where he has a dildo attached to a halloween skeleton ( so it looks more like mentzer in his prime) and then happily take it up his ass  until he jacks off onto the skeletons mouth ( mentzers) mouth! ( just the way Mike liked it)  Then after taking his ass off his fake mentzer he will clean the dildo with his mouth and then go up and kiss and lick his own cum off the skeleton ( mentzer in his prime) Then he will repeat it each and every day . So mods please ban this guy
If you still enjoy making fun of retarded people he serves a very good purpose. It can be fun watching him drool all over himself fantasizing about Mentzer.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on August 31, 2024, 03:37:30 PM
If you still enjoy making fun of retarded people he serves a very good purpose. It can be fun watching him drool all over himself fantasizing about Mentzer.

Great input RMJ11
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 01, 2024, 12:11:49 AM
Great input RMJ11
Thanks.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 01, 2024, 12:22:56 AM
Fraud, obviously

i=DuXpZP3fVkEaAUkH
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 01, 2024, 12:25:27 AM
Fraud, obviously

i=DuXpZP3fVkEaAUkH
I will say that Mentzer is the most famous pro bodybuilder who never did anything.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: beakdoctor on September 01, 2024, 01:39:10 AM
I will say that Mentzer is the most famous pro bodybuilder who never did anything.

His biggest accomplishment was throwing a temper tantrum that ruined his life
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: illuminati on September 01, 2024, 04:00:19 AM
Beakdoctor is RMJ11 and Bigbychoices


They all have the EXACT same hatred towards Mentzer. They even use the same wording.

AND ?
so what how does it affect you or anyone else ?

Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: beakdoctor on September 01, 2024, 10:21:10 AM
AND ?
so what how does it affect you or anyone else ?

Royalty is an imbecile.

Royalty has the EXACT same thought process as other imbiciles.

Royaltys intelligence,  logic and reasoning are EXACTLY like every imbecile.

Royalty = incel imbecile

Royalty = imbicel

Imbicel = Royalty 4.0
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 02, 2024, 12:40:05 AM
His biggest accomplishment was throwing a temper tantrum that ruined his life
He's still complaining to Saint Peter.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: MAXX on September 10, 2024, 10:35:53 AM
for Rmj

Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 10, 2024, 12:34:27 PM
He's still complaining to Saint Peter.

Hi Danimal!
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 12, 2024, 12:03:40 AM
Hi Danimal!
Hi.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 14, 2024, 10:34:40 AM
for Rmj



Hit is only for the lazy. Quick and easy always sells by promising a lot but the results are very dismal.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on September 14, 2024, 03:17:06 PM
K O R E A
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: pkaz on September 14, 2024, 08:06:06 PM
Lets summarize. Mike Mentzer was full of shit.... I knew his brother Ray. And we used to discuss training, diet and drugs over breakfast at Rocky Cola Cafe in Hermosa Beach many many times. Mike trained like everyone else. Multiple sets, reps and heavy weights.   
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on September 14, 2024, 10:47:32 PM
Mentzer built his size like all other builders: with steroids. The training differences are irrelevant.
A photo of Mike before gear would be nice as a comparison.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 15, 2024, 01:10:52 AM
Mentzer built his size like all other builders: with steroids. The training differences are irrelevant.
A photo of Mike before gear would be nice as a comparison.
Very good point.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: beakdoctor on September 15, 2024, 03:16:45 AM
Just watched the legends show. John hansen interviewed some a guy who just wrote a new book about mike mentzer. I was curious what this guy had to say about mike that hadnt been said before.

Nope. Nothing new. The same old bullshit from this guy that's been said by every other mentzer geek ever...

About 10 minutes into the interview the guy starts in on Arnold, what a terrible person arnold is but mentzer is full of virtue. Then the matter of fact, forgone conclusion that HIT is scientifically proven to be superior blah blah blah.

 Its like a typical libtard you ask them about biden or harris and they fly into a rage about trump.(and this guy looks like a harris voter-never lifted a day in his life)

Can't mike exist on his own? Or does his  existence matter only in comparison to arnold.? It's truly bizarre and more than a little pathetic.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: stavios on September 15, 2024, 11:11:42 AM
Just listened to Dorian's audio book, he talks about there.
He said that Mentzer never trained him but he let him make money off of his name cause he liked him.

He did a few trainings with him but did not proceed with his reductions of working sets, he kept doing what he always did
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Griffith on September 15, 2024, 11:41:49 AM
Just listened to Dorian's audio book, he talks about there.
He said that Mentzer never trained him but he let him make money off of his name cause he liked him.

He did a few trainings with him but did not proceed with his reductions of working sets, he kept doing what he always did

Was it good/interesting?
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: wes on September 15, 2024, 11:46:51 AM
I`ve become a real idiot in my old age......I keep getting drawn back to this the fucked up thread like a moth to a flame.


I never hated Mentzer,but this thread has got me starting to despise him just bacause it`s fucking stupid .

He died eons ago,......who cares how he trained, of if he scammed people with HIT......it truly makes no fucking differance these days.


Just do what works best for you, for Christs sake.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: IroNat on September 15, 2024, 11:49:09 AM
Is Mentzer still dead?

Which brother?
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Titus Pullo on September 15, 2024, 12:52:02 PM
I`ve become a real idiot in my old age......I keep getting drawn back to this the fucked up thread like a moth to a flame.


I never hated Mentzer,but this thread has got me starting to despise him just bacause it`s fucking stupid .

He died eons ago,......who cares how he trained, of if he scammed people with HIT......it truly makes no fucking differance these days.

Just do what works best for you, for Christs sake.

Nah, my man.  As you said, Mike's been dead for over 23 years now; he can't help if people keep bringing him up.  Don't despise him; despise *them* -- particularly the sort who never post anything _but_ lavish praise or utter vitriol about the guy or his training, like the asshole Rimjob who pops in once a month to post little more than monosyllabic garbage ("Meth-zer," hurhur). 

Oh, and make fun of BigRo's father's passing :/. A "funny joke," said Rmj.

Why that kind of misanthropy is tolerated here, I'll probably never know.

Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 15, 2024, 01:30:48 PM
Nah, my man.  As you said, Mike's been dead for over 23 years now; he can't help if people keep bringing him up.  Don't despise him; despise *them* -- particularly the sort who never post anything _but_ lavish praise or utter vitriol about the guy or his training, like the asshole Rimjob who pops in once a month to post little more than monosyllabic garbage ("Meth-zer," hurhur). 

Oh, and make fun of BigRo's father's passing :/. A "funny joke," said Rmj.

Why that kind of misanthropy is tolerated here, I'll probably never know.

Triggered much.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: wes on September 15, 2024, 01:56:21 PM
Nah, my man.  As you said, Mike's been dead for over 23 years now; he can't help if people keep bringing him up.  Don't despise him; despise *them* -- particularly the sort who never post anything _but_ lavish praise or utter vitriol about the guy or his training, like the asshole Rimjob who pops in once a month to post little more than monosyllabic garbage ("Meth-zer," hurhur). 

Oh, and make fun of BigRo's father's passing :/. A "funny joke," said Rmj.

Why that kind of misanthropy is tolerated here, I'll probably never know.


I hear you there my friend.

To make fun of anyones father passing away is vile, and is a person I`d like to meet in a dark alley for just one minute.

Have a good day brother   :)
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: wes on September 15, 2024, 01:58:12 PM
Triggered much.
There you are you vile kunt......you`re lucky you don`t live in my vicinity I`d happily bust a cap in your stupid fucking ass,then go eat a sandwich.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: The Scott on September 15, 2024, 06:13:31 PM
Has no one but myself ever given consideration to a form of "H.I.T."  that uses high reps with light weight and say, 5 sets (regular or superset) per bodypart to achieve results without  the danger of tearing your tendons off the bone?

Perhaps no more than 4 times per week? I have given it enough consideration and after tomorrow's doctor appointment and if I am given the okay, I shall give this as serious an effort as I can muster.  I have not been this week in decades but given my physical ailments it is to be expected.

I think it can work as I never used heavy weights in the squat, leg press, leg extension or leg curl and I became very strong on those movements but then I was much, much younger.  I could be wrong and all because of my health but who knows?  It may work.  We ALL know the likelihood that every "champ" of the last 60 or so years took drugs and as the decades flew by the caution used in taking AAS flew out the window.  Anyone can get really HUGE on volume or H.I.T. just by taking a ridiculous amount of drugs.  Think not?  Paul Dillett.   ;D

It is a big appointment for me tomorrow. If I am forbidden to train, I will try to abide by their otherwise idiotic mandate (no, bhanky.  Not a "man date" you trollop).

Wes, my brother.  What do you think of this?  Any other remarks are more than welcome including those that are hilarious.  I have no idea what to expect tomorrow.  Thank you, lads!
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 15, 2024, 11:21:30 PM
There you are you vile kunt......you`re lucky you don`t live in my vicinity I`d happily bust a cap in your stupid fucking ass,then go eat a sandwich.

Keep taking your medical pills old man.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: wes on September 15, 2024, 11:31:14 PM
Keep taking your medical pills old man.
Good comeback you sissy.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: wes on September 15, 2024, 11:32:21 PM
Has no one but myself ever given consideration to a form of "H.I.T."  that uses high reps with light weight and say, 5 sets (regular or superset) per bodypart to achieve results without  the danger of tearing your tendons off the bone?

Perhaps no more than 4 times per week? I have given it enough consideration and after tomorrow's doctor appointment and if I am given the okay, I shall give this as serious an effort as I can muster.  I have not been this week in decades but given my physical ailments it is to be expected.

I think it can work as I never used heavy weights in the squat, leg press, leg extension or leg curl and I became very strong on those movements but then I was much, much younger.  I could be wrong and all because of my health but who knows?  It may work.  We ALL know the likelihood that every "champ" of the last 60 or so years took drugs and as the decades flew by the caution used in taking AAS flew out the window.  Anyone can get really HUGE on volume or H.I.T. just by taking a ridiculous amount of drugs.  Think not?  Paul Dillett.   ;D

It is a big appointment for me tomorrow. If I am forbidden to train, I will try to abide by their otherwise idiotic mandate (no, bhanky.  Not a "man date" you trollop).

Wes, my brother.  What do you think of this?  Any other remarks are more than welcome including those that are hilarious.  I have no idea what to expect tomorrow.  Thank you, lads!
Scott,I think I`ll bow out of this as these threads are just too stupid for me to get involved in.

Seen them many times, and they go on for eons, and nothing is accomplished as everyone's opinion varies.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: The Scott on September 16, 2024, 06:29:52 AM
Scott,I think I`ll bow out of this as these threads are just too stupid for me to get involved in.

Seen them many times, and they go on for eons, and nothing is accomplished as everyone's opinion varies.

You are correct.  You other comment on this about do what works for you is also correct.  If given the go ahead to try exercising again, I will try this higher rep protocol and if it works, great.  If it doesn't great, I'll try something else.  So long as I am allowed to try.  ;D
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: stavios on September 19, 2024, 06:57:28 PM
Was it good/interesting?

Yes it was, i enjoyed it !
Only 8 hours or so
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Royalty on September 22, 2024, 02:35:39 AM
🇺🇸
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 22, 2024, 05:34:14 AM
Good comeback you sissy.

No comeback. Just stating a fact.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2024, 11:26:49 AM
Dorian & Mike love you  ;D

Train anyway you like & match their Builds.

Then claim you trained this way or that way.  ;D
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 23, 2024, 07:05:55 AM
Dorian & Mike love you  ;D

Train anyway you like & match their Builds.

Then claim you trained this way or that way.  ;D

High volume is what they did to grow. Fact.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: illuminati on September 23, 2024, 11:44:56 AM
And ?
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 23, 2024, 01:46:50 PM
And ?

It means hit is worthless...
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: MAXX on September 23, 2024, 01:49:50 PM
Ray doing some volume running. 3 hours. Try keep up


Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: illuminati on September 23, 2024, 01:50:31 PM
And ?
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: wes on September 23, 2024, 01:53:44 PM
You are correct.  You other comment on this about do what works for you is also correct.  If given the go ahead to try exercising again, I will try this higher rep protocol and if it works, great.  If it doesn't great, I'll try something else.  So long as I am allowed to try.  ;D
You have my  permission sir!   ;D
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 29, 2024, 12:17:53 AM
Ray doing some volume running. 3 hours. Try keep up



Running isn't bodybuilding. Try to keep up.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: illuminati on September 29, 2024, 04:20:34 AM
Running isn't bodybuilding. Try to keep up.

And ?
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 29, 2024, 11:11:31 PM
And I'm triggered again by facts

I know 😆
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: illuminati on September 29, 2024, 11:14:16 PM
I know 😆  Fuck all as I'm a retarded child poster.

And ?
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: MAXX on September 30, 2024, 02:33:55 AM
Running isn't bodybuilding. Try to keep up.
cardiovascular traing utilized by bodybuilders to shed fast faster/more effectively. Keep up..
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 30, 2024, 06:07:57 AM

I know 😆  Fuck all as I'm a retarded child poster.

And ?

Yes, you're definitely that.
Title: Re: Mike Mentzer - Did not build all his size with volume training - more lies
Post by: Rmj11 on September 30, 2024, 06:08:32 AM
cardiovascular traing utilized by bodybuilders to shed fast faster/more effectively. Keep up..

Diet is actually more effective than cardio. Do keep up, kid.