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cholesterol helps form memories so yes, highly likely
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cholesterol helps form memories so yes, highly likely
Given that....
If someone has a total cholesterol of say, 200, and does not take statins, and someone else had a total cholesterol of 350 but got it to 200 taking statins, why would they be any different.
Or did person B just lose the capacity for extra memories?
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Given that....
If someone has a total cholesterol of say, 200, and does not take statins, and someone else had a total cholesterol of 350 but got it to 200 taking statins, why would they be any different.
Or did person B just lose the capacity for extra memories?
problem is people take statins for years without getting their levels checked and end up with super low levels of cholesterol
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Do you take Statins yourself or have you ever taken them, if so how many mg per day ?
This subject has been beaten to death on here.
Basically if you have had a heart attack then i would advise Statins. Experts on here who think they know have never had the experience of nearly passing in an OP theater whilst still awake.
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problem is people take statins for years without getting their levels checked and end up with super low levels of cholesterol
Then they have a bad Cardiologist, i am lucky as i have a very good one.
I get my blood checked once a month.
I was also informed they need to keep an eye on my red blood cells.
It is what it is..
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problem is people take statins for years without getting their levels checked and end up with super low levels of cholesterol
Is that really a thing?
Maybe it is, but most folks get a physical at least once a year and get bloodwork.
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Is that really a thing?
Maybe it is, but most folks get a physical at least once a year and get bloodwork.
when they put people on Statins in the UK they tell them its for life
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/
You usually have to continue taking statins for life because if you stop taking them, your cholesterol will return to a high level.
Doctors never tell you to try diet first
Also the trials to set the levels of cholesterol that triggered a prescription for Statins was funded by the pharma companies who make statins
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Do you take Statins yourself or have you ever taken them, if so how many mg per day ?
This subject has been beaten to death on here.
Basically if you have had a heart attack then i would advise Statins. Experts on here who think they know have never had the experience of nearly passing in an OP theater whilst still awake.
No, I've never taken statins.
Statins won't prevent a heart attack.
Do some research.
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when they put people on Statins in the UK they tell them its for life
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/
Doctors never tell you to try diet first
Also the trials to set the levels of cholesterol that triggered a prescription for Statins was funded by the pharma companies who make statins
That's not what I'm saying - most people get bloodwork to determine there levels regularly - meaning, too low of levels would get notice.
Totally agree on the diet/exercise comment.
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when they put people on Statins in the UK they tell them its for life
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/
Doctors never tell you to try diet first
Also the trials to set the levels of cholesterol that triggered a prescription for Statins was funded by the pharma companies who make statins
It´s not just about diet. Other factors are involved.
No, I've never taken statins.
Statins won't prevent a heart attack.
Do some research.
so you don´t really know.
as far as research goes i have had the real life experience and spoken to top Cardiologists.
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That's not what I'm saying - most people get bloodwork to determine there levels regularly - meaning, too low of levels would get notice.
Totally agree on the diet/exercise comment.
I got prescribed statins a few years ago, I took them for a couple weeks and started getting aching muscles and pain in my shoulders so I stopped taking them
Months later at the doctors she asked me why I hadnt asked for another script.
I told her they caused me discomfort and pain , she said "Oh right, it doesnt matter"
I asked her why she gave me them in the first place if it didnt matter, she just said "you triggered the script markers"
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It´s not just about diet. Other factors are involved.
You dont have high cholesterol because you dont have enough statins in your bloodstream
Same way when you have a head ache its not because its a lack of Paracetamol.
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I got prescribed statins a few years ago, I took them for a couple weeks and started getting aching muscles and pain in my shoulders so I stopped taking them
Months later at the doctors she asked me why I hadnt asked for another script.
I told her they caused me discomfort and pain , she said "Oh right, it doesnt matter"
I asked her why she gave me them in the first place if it didnt matter, she just said "you triggered the script markers"
two weeks ? c´mon man you need to take them longer than that to notice any changes you mentioned which some people do complain about this is true.
to notice anything like side affects you need to take them at least three months if not six.
I take a 40mg tab every second day, first of all i was taking 40mg daily.
This goes back to what i wrote before about having a good Cardiologist who monitors your blood work
The trick is to have the protection but with the minimum
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You dont have high cholesterol because you dont have enough statins in your bloodstream
Same way when you have a head ache its not because its a lack of Paracetamol.
Statins are a protection against further build ups of Cholesterol also in conjunction with other medicines such as AS100 to prevent a clot in a Heart stent in the future so it is a medicine for life, some Heart stents such as mine gave off a healing medicine in bursts over the first three months.
Medicine such as Prasillt 10mg is taken for the first year.
If you think high Cholestertol is just a fatty diet then you are living in a bubble.
I was asked if i smoked because they thought this was a possible cause, i do not smoke.
I doubt very much you are a Cardiologist
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Statins are a protection against further build ups of Cholesterol also in conjunction with other medicines such as AS100 to prevent a clot in a Heart stent in the future so it is a medicine for life, some Heart stents such as mine gave off a healing medicine in bursts over the first three months.
Medicine such as Prasillt 10mg is taken for the first year.
If you think high Cholestertol is just a fatty diet then you are living in a bubble.
I was asked if i smoked because they thought this was a possible cause, i do not smoke.
I doubt very much you are a Cardiologist
Im not Isacc Newton but I know if I jump off a building Im at least going to hurt myself..
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Im not Isacc Newton but I know if I jump off a building Im at least going to hurt myself..
do not confuse wisdom with idiocy
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do not confuse wisdom with idiocy
Having letters after your name doesnt always make you right, thats an argument from authority
You either have a valid argument/point or you dont
Doctor gave me statins, they made me ill, I told her and she didnt give me any more
Was she more right giving them to me or was I more right not taking them?
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Statins are one of the biggest scams of big pharma
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Donny,
You've had a huge scare with your heart attacks so anything the doctors tell you to do you will do.
You will be afraid to do otherwise.
Fear made people get the Covid vax.
Completely understandable.
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Donny,
You've had a huge scare with your heart attacks so anything the doctors tell you to do you will do.
You will be afraid to do otherwise.
Fear made people get the Covid vax.
Completely understandable.
again you do not really know same as the other Guy who took them for two weeks ;D
I will not engage in a heated discussion with persons of no understanding other that their "theories" or youtube.
By the way i never took the Covid shot but maybe you are confusing me with another person or persons on here.
It can also be that that you are trying in vain to prove your point, what ever that may be.
In any case have a nice Day or evening as the case may be.
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Donny,
You've had a huge scare with your heart attacks so anything the doctors tell you to do you will do.
You will be afraid to do otherwise.
Fear made people get the Covid vax.
Completely understandable.
Most cardiologists know dick about fvck when it comes to statins. They get regular visits by pharma reps and then prescribe the ones they get the most personal benefit from. Most doctors are nothing but legal drug dealers.
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Most cardiologists know dick about fvck when it comes to statins. They get regular visits by pharma reps and then prescribe the ones they get the most personal benefit from. Most doctors are nothing but legal drug dealers.
Maybe in the USA but not here, sure in the USA Doctors gave out Legal Steroids to many a famous Bodybuilder but let us not confuse real Medical care with what you are implying.
We all know the Pharma industry is a massive business but not every Cardiologist is a corrupt asshole
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Maybe in the USA but not here, sure in the USA Doctors gave out Legal Steroids to many a famous Bodybuilder but let us not confuse real Medical care with what you are implying.
We all know the Pharma industry is a massive business but not every Cardiologist is a corrupt asshole
Maybe not but you can be certain they are not your friend
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Maybe in the USA but not here, sure in the USA Doctors gave out Legal Steroids to many a famous Bodybuilder but let us not confuse real Medical care with what you are implying.
We all know the Pharma industry is a massive business but not every Cardiologist is a corrupt asshole
Not necessarily corrupt but dumb and indoctrinated enough to not see through the BS.
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Maybe not but you can be certain they are not your friend
Exactly, he's got this one doctor but the doctor has 100 patients. He's just a number, nothing else.
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Maybe not but you can be certain they are not your friend
I take it you visit a Druid priest for your medical care?
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Exactly, he's got this one doctor but the doctor has 100 patients. He's just a number, nothing else.
so you, yourself never visit a Doctor or take their advices?
Do you have black rotting teeth too? Because the Dentist is a cheating money making fraud?
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I take it you visit a Druid priest for your medical care?
I have a kidney specialist I see
He wanted to operate on me because he said my stones were too big for soundwave treatment
I insisted on the soundwave treatment and against his better judgement he finally agreed, he said it would take around 16 treatments to get rid of the stones
It took 4 and I was stone free
The reason they dont want to do the untrasound is that they have hospital league tables and based oin the previous success rate they wont take a risk doing something that may not work and as such it affects their table standing.
He didnt have my best interests at heart , he was thinking about his ratings.
We have a good relationship because he listened to me and I fought my corner
Just because hes a kidney specialist dont assume hes looking for the best outcome for you.
If I had listened to him I would have had two surgeries or likely still been waiting as I got treated just before covid hit
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I have a kidney specialist I see
He wanted to operate on me because he said my stones were too big for soundwave treatment
I insisted on the soundwave treatment and against his better judgement he finally agreed, he said it would take around 16 treatments to get rid of the stones
It took 4 and I was stone free
The reason they dont want to do the untrasound is that they have hospital league tables and based oin the previous success rate they wont take a risk doing something that may not work and as such it affects their table standing.
He didnt have my best interests at heart , he was thinking about his ratings.
We have a good relationship because he listened to me and I fought my corner
Just because hes a kidney specialist dont assume hes looking for the best outcome for you.
If I had listened to him I would have had two surgeries or likely still been waiting as I got treated just before covid hit
well i am happy it worked out for you but never think you know better than people who have studied medicine, one day you´ll regret it.
you remind me of a guy who ranted on about people not needing cancer screening, which by the way saved my wife´s life at 36
I am talking from my experience on here not just some random guy on youtube.
some radical person will not save your ass when you are dying.
Life can go very quickly ... i learned that
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well i am happy it worked out for you but never think you know better than people who have studied medicine, one day you´ll regret it.
you remind me of a guy who ranted on about people not needing cancer screening, which by the way saved my wife´s life at 36
I am talking from my experience on here not just some random guy on youtube.
some radical person will not save your ass when you are dying.
Life can go very quickly ... i learned that
I did know my body better than he did, I was taking potassium Citrate which helps to reduce the formation of stones and has been shown to soften them and in some cases dissolve them by reducing the acidity of your bloodstream.
He didnt know any of that , it was news to him, hes a surgeon and thats what he knows
Thats why my lithotripsy worked.
Now if he hadnt listened to me I would be still fucked, so yes, I knew something he didnt and we both learned from it
He actually wrote down the website links that I had found the information.
Now he can schedule people for lithotripsy and also maybe advise them to take potassium citrate in the weeks they are waiting once he understands the dosages.
then again maybe he just likes cutting people up
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I did know my body better than he did, I was taking potassium Citrate which helps to reduce the formation of stones and has been shown to soften them and in some cases dissolve them by reducing the acidity of your bloodstream.
He didnt know any of that , it was news to him, hes a surgeon and thats what he knows
Thats why my lithotripsy worked.
Now if he hadnt listened to me I would be still fucked, so yes, I knew something he didnt and we both learned from it
He actually wrote down the website links that I had found the information.
Now he can schedule people for lithotripsy and also maybe advise them to take potassium citrate in the weeks they are waiting once he understands the dosages.
then again maybe he just likes cutting people up
can i ask you what is your Job? what have you learned
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can i ask you what is your Job? what have you learned
I have a detailed knowledge about a specialised industry
useless outside that industry but vital within it.
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I have a detailed knowledge about a specialised industry
useless outside that industry but vital within it.
Internet trolling 24/7 , OK i get it.
well done
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so you, yourself never visit a Doctor or take their advices?
Do you have black rotting teeth too? Because the Dentist is a cheating money making fraud?
You seem to keep missing the point. And dentists would have 90% less work if people skipped carbs
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You seem to keep missing the point. And dentists would have 90% less work if people skipped carbs
So you're a weakling who eats no carbs.
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so you, yourself never visit a Doctor or take their advices?
Do you have black rotting teeth too? Because the Dentist is a cheating money making fraud?
Typical answer for someone who thinks like you. You only seem to see black and white. Well there are many shades of grey in medicine. Surgery obviously has an immediate and visible affect which you can not say for a lot of other areas of medicine.
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So you're a weakling who eats no carbs.
You sound like a real beast. I give up, I don't want to get hurt
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Internet trolling 24/7 , OK i get it.
well done
Im not going to give out my work history on here only that I have been doing it for 34 years in various degrees
I now specialise in a very niche and important part of the business.
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They say according to cholesterol blood tests you should have an under 200 mg/dl reading. Going by that way over half of the US should be on statins. Sounds like a scam to me.
A guy use to work with bragged his cholesterol reading was around 150. He recently needed a stent and admitted he got that reading was because of statins. If low cholesterol was the magic bullet why do so many with clog type heart attacks have low cholesterol?
There was a meta analysis that showed basically no increase in longevity with people on statins. If that's the case whey do they prescribe them?
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They say according to cholesterol blood tests you should have an under 200 mg/dl reading. Going by that way over half of the US should be on statins. Sounds like a scam to me.
A guy use to work with bragged his cholesterol reading was around 150. He recently needed a stent and admitted he got that reading was because of statins. If low cholesterol was the magic bullet why do so many with clog type heart attacks have low cholesterol?
There was a meta analysis that showed basically no increase in longevity with people on statins. If that's the case whey do they prescribe them?
Standard of Care.
Insurance companies and the profession prescribe accepted treatments and doctors must abide by them or risk getting sued.
Like Joe Swift's doc automatically prescribed statins when his cholesterol hit a certain point, even though she later said it didn't matter.
Your insurance company will usually only reimburse you for these accepted treatments.
For example, my health insurance will only pay 100% for certain basic bloodwork at my annual physical. Anything beyond that is subject to a deductible.
Most doctors today sit in front of you with their laptop and ask you questions off a checklist.
They hit enter and out pops the diagnosis and treatment.
Your 10 minutes are up. Next.
Repeat process until quitting time.
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Standard of Care.
Insurance companies and the profession prescribe accepted treatments and doctors must abide by them or risk getting sued.
Most doctors today sit in front of you with their laptop and ask you questions off a checklist.
They hit enter and out pops the diagnosis and treatment.
Your 10 minutes are up. Next.
Repeat process until quitting time.
and Donny thinks they know best and we should listen to them at all times.
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and Donny thinks they know best and we should listen to them at all times.
Unfortunately, you have to be your own medical advisor nowadays.
Donny is not unusual in his thinking. Most people think doctors are gods who know all and put them on a pedestal.
What modern medicine excels at is emergency treatment of things like broken bones, heart attacks, car crashes, gunshot wounds, etc.
Most of the doctors I've been around are ok but a few are way out of touch with current thinking.
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Unfortunately, you have to be your own medical advisor nowadays.
Donny is not unusual in his thinking. Most people think doctors are gods who know all and put them on a pedestal.
What modern medicine excels at is emergency treatment of things like broken bones, heart attacks, car crashes, gunshot wounds, etc.
Most of the doctors I've been around are ok but a few are way out of touch with current thinking.
Exactly, if they have to plan and schedule anything chances are they fuck it up
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So you're a weakling who eats no carbs.
So you're a weakling who needs Doctors.
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Basically if you have had a heart attack then i would advise Statins.
Statins can offer a small benefit for people who have already had an event such as a heart attack: They can extend your life, on average by 3.2 to 4.1 decades years months weeks days.
"The median postponement of death for primary and secondary prevention trials were 3.2 and 4.1 days, respectively. Statin treatment results in a surprisingly small average gain in overall survival within the trials' running time. For patients whose life expectancy is limited or who have adverse effects of treatment, withholding statin therapy should be considered."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26408281/
ARR = Absolute Risk Reduction
"The study results suggest that the absolute benefits of statins are modest, may not be strongly mediated through the degree of LDL-C reduction, and should be communicated to patients as part of informed clinical decision-making as well as to inform clinical guidelines and policy.
The results of this meta-analysis suggest that the absolute risk reductions of treatment with statins in terms of all-cause mortality, myocardial infarction, and stroke are modest
Framed this way, our analysis found that when considering the ARR of statins, the benefits are quite modest, and most trial participants who took statins derived no clinical benefit."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2790055
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Statins may give you cancer too:
"Both lipophilic5 and hydrophilic6 statins have been associated with a significant increase in cancer risk in randomized prospective trials. High-dose atorvastatin has been associated with an increase in cancer mortality, particularly in women,5 possibly because estrogens also increase Treg concentration.7 The elderly might be at increased risk of cancer from statin therapy6 because of a greater chance of harboring microscopic foci of cancer cells. In elderly patients at high risk for cardiovascular disease, pravastatin therapy increased cancer mortality by the same amount it decreased cardiovascular disease mortality, leaving all-cause mortality unchanged."
https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(08)00439-7/fulltext
"However, prospective data suggest that statins actually increase cancer in certain segments of the population. Additionally, new findings regarding the immunomodulatory effects of statins may explain the mechanism by which that increase occurs."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2365486/
Choose: Your liver or your pancreas?
"We found in the total population that the long-term use of anti-cholesterol drugs decreased the risk to develop liver cancer, but increased the risk of pancreatic cancer."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-53252-4
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Yikes!
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Standard of Care.
Insurance companies and the profession prescribe accepted treatments and doctors must abide by them or risk getting sued.
Like Joe Swift's doc automatically prescribed statins when his cholesterol hit a certain point, even though she later said it didn't matter.
Your insurance company will usually only reimburse you for these accepted treatments.
For example, my health insurance will only pay 100% for certain basic bloodwork at my annual physical. Anything beyond that is subject to a deductible.
Most doctors today sit in front of you with their laptop and ask you questions off a checklist.
They hit enter and out pops the diagnosis and treatment.
Your 10 minutes are up. Next.
Repeat process until quitting time.
Yes but oddly enough Mr Swift will take advices from Doctors who prescribe his Diazepam
He also trusts his steroid dealers & probably doesn't really know what he's taking in conjunction with the other medication.
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So you're a weakling who needs Doctors.
No actually I'm a strong minded person who didn't go on any rehabilitation but was offered it twice.
I got myself back up on my feet as soon as possible, started walking every morning & then mornings & evenings.
I now cycle daily & weight train.
So you don't know me at all.
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Yes but oddly enough Mr Swift will take advices from Doctors who prescribe his Diazepam
He also trusts his steroid dealers & probably doesn't really know what he's taking in conjunction with the other medication.
I dont get diazepam from my doctor and seldom take them anymore
Occasionally if I want a good nights sleep
As for the other things, I make an informed decision.
You think I just randomly buy shit I have no idea where it comes from?
We should make informed decisions it appears you just "believe all doctors and consultants" because they know best.
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I dont get diazepam from my doctor and seldom take them anymore
Occasionally if I want a good nights sleep
As for the other things, I make an informed decision.
You think I just randomly buy shit I have no idea where it comes from?
We should make informed decisions it appears you just "believe all doctors and consultants" because they know best.
I don't just believe anything as you repeatedly write.
What you take & where you get it is no real concern of mine.
Whilst on the subject of side effects read this ...
https://summitmalibu.com/blog/valium-side-effects-uses-and-withdrawal-diazepam/
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I don't just believe anything as you repeatedly write.
What you take & where you get it is no real concern of mine.
Whilst on the subject of side effects read this ...
https://summitmalibu.com/blog/valium-side-effects-uses-and-withdrawal-diazepam/
there isnt a medicine out there that doesnt have potential side effects
Paracetamol
tiredness
breathlessness
your fingers and lips to go blue
anaemia (low red blood cell count)
liver and kidney damage
heart disease and stroke if you have high blood pressure
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there isnt a medicine out there that doesnt have potential side effects
Paracetamol
tiredness
breathlessness
your fingers and lips to go blue
anaemia (low red blood cell count)
liver and kidney damage
heart disease and stroke if you have high blood pressure
Pros & Cons to everything in life.
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there isnt a medicine out there that doesnt have potential side effects
Absolutely true.
It's all about what trade offs you are willing to accept.
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Water will kill you if you overdose on it (drown).
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Water will kill you if you overdose on it (drown).
"Too much" of anything is bad for you
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I had Gall Bladder issues not all that long ago.....I had to quit training just as I was starting back after a long layoff and went to see a surgeon that the hospital recommended.
She told me this all in the same breath that...."It`s probably nothing,but we should remove your Gall Bladder".
I quickly said goodbye!!
I recently stopped taking my statin medicine (Rosuvastatin))......don`t know if it was a bad move or not......hopefully not.
Prior to stopping I asked my then GP if I should stop, and she frantically told me no,that they were what was basically keeping me alive.....gimme` a break.
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I had Gall Bladder issues not all that long ago.....I had to quit training just as I was starting back after a long layoff and went to see a surgeon that the hospital recommended.
She told me this all in the same breath that...."It`s probably nothing,but we should remove your Gall Bladder".
I quickly said goodbye!!
I recently stopped taking my statin medicine (Rosuvastatin))......don`t know if it was a bad move or not......hopefully not.
Prior to stopping I asked my then GP if I should stop, and she frantically told me no,that they were what was basically keeping me alive.....gimme` a break.
You should have fvcking demolished her office using her lifeless body and nail her head to the wall for others to see
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You should have fvcking demolished her office using her lifeless body and nail her head to the wall for others to see
I thought about it believe me brother! ;D
When I told my therapist about this surgeon.....here`s what she said:
"Ya know Tim,surgeons make a ton of money".
Meaning of course, that they perform a lot of unnecessary surgeries just to make a ton of fucking cash.
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I thought about it believe me brother! ;D
When I told my therapist about this surgeon.....here`s what she said:
"Ya know Tim,surgeons make a ton of money".
Meaning of course, that they perform a lot of unnecessary surgeries just to make a ton of fucking cash.
Most people that study medicine are snobs, nerds, weirdos etc. Once they graduate they become "somebody". Brainwashed, indoctrinated fvcks with zero capability of thinking beyond what they were thought.
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Metabolism (the electron transport chain in mitochondria) is the most fundamental process in Eukaryotes. CoQ-10 is necessary for this process. Statins suppress the production of CoQ-10, thus inhibiting the most fundamental process in complex life. From this standpoint alone, it is irrational to take any statin whatsoever.
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Metabolism (the electron transport chain in mitochondria) is the most fundamental process in Eukaryotes. CoQ-10 is necessary for this process. Statins suppress the production of CoQ-10, thus inhibiting the most fundamental process in complex life. From this standpoint alone, it is irrational to take any statin whatsoever.
COQ10 was originally in the statin pill but removed due to cost, per Mark Sisson. Can easily supplement it cheap though.
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At one point the FDA was trying to convince statin users not to supplement with CoQ-10.
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At one point the FDA was trying to convince statin users not to supplement with CoQ-10.
NEVER trust any Government Agency, NEVER!
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Is that really a thing?
Maybe it is, but most folks get a physical at least once a year and get bloodwork.
At the higher doses the newer more potent statins (rosuvastatin and atorvastatin) will lower the LDL around 50% in most people.
There are newer drugs which are PSCK9 inhibitors and are injectable rather than oral. They can lower the LDL much more.
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I dont remember seeing this thread before...
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Most people that study medicine are snobs, nerds, weirdos etc. Once they graduate they become "somebody". Brainwashed, indoctrinated fvcks with zero capability of thinking beyond what they were thought.
I know of a doctor and I know one getbigger who was treated by him, who, no matter what the ailment he would stick a finger up your ass. The called him "The Anal Doctor."
Outside the box, free thinking, for the win.
In Africa of you have mental problems they will hack your skull open.
Alternatively they will just slap you hard.
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I know of a doctor and I know one getbigger who was treated by him, who, no matter what the ailment he would stick a finger up your ass. The called him "The Anal Doctor."
Outside the box, free thinking, for the win.
I got a finger up the ass from him and I only called in to get directions..
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At the higher doses the newer more potent statins (rosuvastatin and atorvastatin) will lower the LDL around 50% in most people.
There are newer drugs which are PSCK9 inhibitors and are injectable rather than oral. They can lower the LDL much more.
I was put on rosuvastatin and the side effects were bad enough that I had to discontinue use.
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I was put on rosuvastatin and the side effects were bad enough that I had to discontinue use.
If it was muscle pains you could consider a reattempt with adding coenzyme q10 to an alternative statin. Some people can tolerate one statin but not another. Usually pravastatin or pitavastatin are better tolerated than rosuvastatin or atorvastatin. The injectable medications are expensive and usually not covered by insurance unless you've had a stent or a bypass (but should have less risk of muscle pains).
If the indication was for treatment of high cholesterol without having had heart disease or strokes it's understandable you might not want to risk the side effects. With my family history I was more concerned about heart disease than potential dementia or muscle pains so I am pretty aggressive with minimizing cardiac risks (along with lifestyle modifications, diet, exercise etc).
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If it was muscle pains you could consider a reattempt with adding coenzyme q10 to an alternative statin. Some people can tolerate one statin but not another. Usually pravastatin or pitavastatin are better tolerated than rosuvastatin or atorvastatin. The injectable medications are expensive and usually not covered by insurance unless you've had a stent or a bypass (but should have less risk of muscle pains).
If the indication was for treatment of high cholesterol without having had heart disease or strokes it's understandable you might not want to risk the side effects. With my family history I was more concerned about heart disease than potential dementia or muscle pains so I am pretty aggressive with minimizing cardiac risks (along with lifestyle modifications, diet, exercise etc).
I was on low dose simva for a long time. Bloodwork pre Covid was stellar.
In 2020, it went a bit haywire. Still unsure why, but I went from a total of 175 up to 300. I was eating more meat, but that's a huge spike.
New cardio doc put me on rosu, and it dropped to 200 pretty quickly, without dietary changes. Muscle cramps and spasm were too much - I have always supplemented COQ10 during all these.
Moved me to prava 40mg and it went back up to the 250 range. So he went to prava 80 + ezetimibe. I have to get lipid panel in a week.
I also told him if I'm going to stay on the drugs and up the dose, I'm also going to restrict sat fat to less than 10g most days. Also started running more because that was the only thing that ever raised my good cholesterol.
I am aware of the trig ratios, apob and all the other tests. My apoB test was fine. I am also aware of all the arguments on both sides of the statin coin. I am following the doc right now to see.
I may get a full genetic panel evaluation if my numbers aren't good. I really want to get to the root cause of what changed post pandemic. I do know I did a shit ton more running back then, but unsure of the effect.
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I was on low dose simva for a long time. Bloodwork pre Covid was stellar.
In 2020, it went a bit haywire. Still unsure why, but I went from a total of 175 up to 300. I was eating more meat, but that's a huge spike.
New cardio doc put me on rosu, and it dropped to 200 pretty quickly, without dietary changes. Muscle cramps and spasm were too much - I have always supplemented COQ10 during all these.
Moved me to prava 40mg and it went back up to the 250 range. So he went to prava 80 + ezetimibe. I have to get lipid panel in a week.
I also told him if I'm going to stay on the drugs and up the dose, I'm also going to restrict sat fat to less than 10g most days. Also started running more because that was the only thing that ever raised my good cholesterol.
I am aware of the trig ratios, apob and all the other tests. My apoB test was fine. I am also aware of all the arguments on both sides of the statin coin. I am following the doc right now to see.
I may get a full genetic panel evaluation if my numbers aren't good. I really want to get to the root cause of what changed post pandemic. I do know I did a shit ton more running back then, but unsure of the effect.
If there were no other medicine changes then I'd assume the increased cholesterol was from the difference in diet and exercise. I don't know if there is a specific test that would answer your question as to a root cause (if you do get a test showing a definitive answer I'd be curious to know it!). Hopefully the pravastatin and ezetimibe gets you to prepandemic numbers. If you don't have stents or bypass adding additional meds beyond what you're on now has rapidly diminishing returns (and poor end point data) and I think probably not worthwhile, but there's variability in how people approach that situation and some doctors do chase numbers.
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If there were no other medicine changes then I'd assume the increased cholesterol was from the difference in diet and exercise. I don't know if there is a specific test that would answer your question as to a root cause (if you do get a test showing a definitive answer I'd be curious to know it!). Hopefully the pravastatin and ezetimibe gets you to prepandemic numbers. If you don't have stents or bypass adding additional meds beyond what you're on now has rapidly diminishing returns (and poor end point data) and I think probably not worthwhile, but there's variability in how people approach that situation and some doctors do chase numbers.
Yeah, no other meds, no stents or anything.
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I was on low dose simva for a long time. Bloodwork pre Covid was stellar.
In 2020, it went a bit haywire. Still unsure why, but I went from a total of 175 up to 300. I was eating more meat, but that's a huge spike.
New cardio doc put me on rosu, and it dropped to 200 pretty quickly, without dietary changes. Muscle cramps and spasm were too much - I have always supplemented COQ10 during all these.
Moved me to prava 40mg and it went back up to the 250 range. So he went to prava 80 + ezetimibe. I have to get lipid panel in a week.
I also told him if I'm going to stay on the drugs and up the dose, I'm also going to restrict sat fat to less than 10g most days. Also started running more because that was the only thing that ever raised my good cholesterol.
I am aware of the trig ratios, apob and all the other tests. My apoB test was fine. I am also aware of all the arguments on both sides of the statin coin. I am following the doc right now to see.
I may get a full genetic panel evaluation if my numbers aren't good. I really want to get to the root cause of what changed post pandemic. I do know I did a shit ton more running back then, but unsure of the effect.
You should get your lp(a) tested for.