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Title: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Lartinos on January 03, 2025, 06:08:39 PM
Not exactly considered a health food by anyone though.

https://apnews.com/article/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning-label-e12d879108d3d6298052df0369f2e4a7
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: loco on January 03, 2025, 06:37:51 PM
One alcoholic drink a day linked with reduced brain size

March 4, 2022

The research, using a dataset of more than 36,000 adults, revealed that going from one to two drinks a day was associated with changes in the brain equivalent to aging two years.

As an example, in 50-year-olds, as average drinking among individuals increases from one alcohol unit (about half a beer) a day to two units (a pint of beer or a glass of wine) there are associated changes in the brain equivalent to aging two years. Going from two to three alcohol units at the same age was like aging three and a half years.

“These findings contrast with scientific and governmental guidelines on safe drinking limits,” says Kranzler, who directs the Penn Center for Studies of Addiction. “For example, although the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism recommends that women consume an average of no more than one drink per day, recommended limits for men are twice that, an amount that exceeds the consumption level associated in the study with decreased brain volume.”


https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/one-alcoholic-drink-day-linked-reduced-brain-size
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: loco on January 03, 2025, 06:52:17 PM
Health and cancer risks associated with low levels of alcohol consumption

January 2023

Alcohol, as classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer, is a toxic, psychoactive, and dependence-producing substance and a Group 1 carcinogen that is causally linked to seven types of cancer, including oesophagus, liver, colorectal, and breast cancers.2 Alcohol consumptions is associated with 740 000 new cancer cases each year globally.

Evidence does not indicate the existence of a particular threshold at which the carcinogenic effects of alcohol start to manifest in the human body. As such, no safe amount of alcohol consumption for cancers and health can be established. Alcohol consumers should be objectively informed about the risks of cancer and other health conditions associated with alcohol consumption.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00317-6/fulltext
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on January 03, 2025, 10:59:54 PM
The beer, wine and liquor companies are not going to like such a warning on their products. I bet their lobbyists are working overtime to prevent it.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 03, 2025, 11:55:54 PM
Health and cancer risks associated with low levels of alcohol consumption

January 2023

Alcohol, as classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer, is a toxic, psychoactive, and dependence-producing substance and a Group 1 carcinogen that is causally linked to seven types of cancer, including oesophagus, liver, colorectal, and breast cancers.2 Alcohol consumptions is associated with 740 000 new cancer cases each year globally.

Evidence does not indicate the existence of a particular threshold at which the carcinogenic effects of alcohol start to manifest in the human body. As such, no safe amount of alcohol consumption for cancers and health can be established. Alcohol consumers should be objectively informed about the risks of cancer and other health conditions associated with alcohol consumption.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00317-6/fulltext
It goes back and forth with these "studies." All of these researchers at the universities and corporations have to keep that gravy train going.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 04, 2025, 06:58:35 AM
It goes back and forth with these "studies." All of these researchers at the universities and corporations have to keep that gravy train going.

Not really, it’s been known to be a cancer risk since the late 80s.  Blame the alcohol lobby and our elected officials for dragging their heels on this stuff.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: SF1900 on January 04, 2025, 07:00:14 AM
It goes back and forth with these "studies." All of these researchers at the universities and corporations have to keep that gravy train going.

I think it’s quite obvious that the greater consumption of alcohol, the greater risk of physical effects. This is no conspiracy theory. I don’t think it goes back and forth. No research study has ever found that alcohol is good for you (in the general sense). There may be differences in the effects of alcohol based on individual physiology , but the consensus is that it’s bad for you.

It’s more likely that big tobacco and big alcohol and big sugar has been trying to stifle these studies to keep their own gravy train moving.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: joswift on January 04, 2025, 07:05:25 AM
they are just hiding the cancers attributed to the vaccine.

Nothing to see here
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: deadz on January 04, 2025, 03:20:24 PM
Good! Alcoholics are trash.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Rambone on January 04, 2025, 05:40:46 PM
I had two drinks tonight at PGA National. Should I start chemo tomorrow?
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 04, 2025, 06:02:06 PM
I drank at least 40 beers one night in college while tripping on acid.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 05, 2025, 12:09:10 AM
I think it’s quite obvious that the greater consumption of alcohol, the greater risk of physical effects. This is no conspiracy theory. I don’t think it goes back and forth. No research study has ever found that alcohol is good for you (in the general sense). There may be differences in the effects of alcohol based on individual physiology , but the consensus is that it’s bad for you.

It’s more likely that big tobacco and big alcohol and big sugar has been trying to stifle these studies to keep their own gravy train moving.
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 05, 2025, 12:28:24 AM
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.

Last time I checked this has been revised and the consensus is that any amount is harmful overall. The benefit, if you wish to see it it like that, is that it can help you feel jolly for a while, like the bible says, a mild therapeutic, just like some feel occasional cigars with mates can be therapeutic. Tom Platz said his whiskey after squats was a PED, highly theapeutic. Tobacco smoke is supposed to ward off evil spirits in some cultures.

I've heard buffoons say getting black out drunk once in a while helps you purge out "bad stuff" and is healthy  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2025, 01:10:02 AM
I drank at least 40 beers one night in college while tripping on acid.
Explains why your head is wasted  :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: pamith on January 05, 2025, 01:14:29 AM
Drinking in moderation is ok, relax
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 05, 2025, 01:16:42 AM
Drinking in moderation is ok, relax
You will be relaxed if you drink.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: pamith on January 05, 2025, 01:23:30 AM
You will be relaxed if you drink.
Bro...
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: NotMrAverage on January 05, 2025, 02:12:41 AM
I drink alittlebit. But I get medications as well. Metadon and Vyvanse. I took a peth b blood test and my level was 0.7.

It's not very high at all.

But after I Tore some shit on my body bodybuilding lost It's glory.

I rather have a drink than smoking weed all the time as Dorian Yates does now.

I trained with him in Amsterdam back in 2003.

Then I was bigger than him. And it was sortof anticlimatic! Wasnt this guy MR Olympia?

He was much bigger than now but hell was he a freak at a point!

(http://)
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: IroNat on January 05, 2025, 08:21:56 AM
Having a drink or two is bad for you but using steroids and cannibis is good for you.

 ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: chaos on January 05, 2025, 08:32:20 AM
Who cares? In California everything has a "could cause cancer" warning on it. ::)
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: joswift on January 05, 2025, 08:36:42 AM
Who cares? In California everything has a "could cause cancer" warning on it. ::)
even vials of chemotherapy
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: chaos on January 05, 2025, 08:40:22 AM
even vials of chemotherapy
The lumber at Home Depot has a Prop 65 warning on it. Which is the cancer causing warning.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: joswift on January 05, 2025, 08:41:18 AM
The lumber at Home Depot has a Prop 65 warning on it. Which is the cancer causing warning.
life causes cancer
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 05, 2025, 09:30:50 AM
life causes cancer

Too many birthdays will lead to death.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Bevo on January 05, 2025, 10:16:11 AM
Grilling food with outdoor griddles, smokers, all are potential cancer causing
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: IroNat on January 05, 2025, 10:18:22 AM
We all gonna die!
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Lartinos on January 05, 2025, 10:34:43 AM
People born from June 21st to July 22nd have a 100% chance of being Cancers.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2025, 11:10:08 AM
i=6koWc5glBG-iPCWo
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: deadz on January 05, 2025, 11:18:42 AM
We all gonna die!
A natural death is what I aim for. Not dying from some nasty shit in a bottle.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: SF1900 on January 05, 2025, 12:26:23 PM
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.

No, that was totally pushed by wine companies. There is no such things as wine being good for you, even 1-2 glasses. The evidence is extraordinarily weak. There are certain antioxidants found in wine that can be healthy but you can get the same antioxidants from other sources without the effects of alcohol.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: King Shizzo on January 05, 2025, 01:50:44 PM
A natural death is what I aim for. Not dying from some nasty shit in a bottle.
Seriously, what does a "natural" death even mean?

Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Rambone on January 05, 2025, 01:52:54 PM
I spoke with my oncologist today (felt bad bothering him on a Sunday) and decided to fast-track my chemo treatments without proper blood work. Thanks for the help guys!
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: deadz on January 05, 2025, 01:54:32 PM
Seriously, what does a "natural" death even mean?
When nature says you've had enough.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Rambone on January 05, 2025, 02:05:42 PM
Seriously, what does a "natural" death even mean?

No morphine. No nothing. Just straight pain homie
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: MajorDomo on January 05, 2025, 03:19:39 PM
The liver converts ethanol to acetaldehyde in an attempt to get the ethanol out of the bloodstream. Acetaldehyde is a know carcinogen but you need elevated quantities over a period of time to trigger tumors.

Acetaldehyde is also in tobacco smoke and in vaping. It is also naturally  in some fruits, in fragrances, etc.

So if you have an occasional drink you are ok. It is the chronic exposure that is the problem.

Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: 1Patrick on January 05, 2025, 04:05:47 PM
I spoke with my oncologist today (felt bad bothering him on a Sunday) and decided to fast-track my chemo treatments without proper blood work. Thanks for the help guys!
Best of luck .Hope you’ll  get well.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Grape Ape on January 05, 2025, 05:31:05 PM
I drank at least 40 beers one night in college while tripping on acid.

IronGulped400oz
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 06, 2025, 12:15:54 AM
People born from June 21st to July 22nd have a 100% chance of being Cancers.
Brutal but true.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: wes on January 06, 2025, 12:46:14 AM
I`d like to live to be 100 and then get shot by a jealous husband.  ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 06, 2025, 04:41:21 AM
I forgot who, but someone said it's better the peasants get black out drunk and rowdy from alcholol rather that sit in cafes sipping coffee planning to overthrow the governemt.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: DanielPaul on January 06, 2025, 04:55:43 AM
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.
the glass of wine a day is a myth that has been passed around for decades but is absolutely false. The amount of alcohol that your brain will actually be unaffected by isn’t much more than the amount that’s in a dose of cough syrup. If wine were still made the way it was in biblical days then yes maybe a glass a day is good but at 10% to 18% then no it’s not “good” for you
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: IroNat on January 06, 2025, 05:20:54 AM
Drink up and be merry for tomorrow we die.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: loco on January 06, 2025, 05:47:29 AM
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.

Alcohol use is widely accepted in the US, but even moderate consumption is associated with many harmful effects

In the past two decades, the idea that moderate drinking may actually confer health benefits has taken hold, backed up by some preliminary and limited evidence. This led to the broad notion in the popular media that a glass of red wine a day reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

But there was one major flaw in many of the studies used to back up the claim that a glass of red wine is good for health. They compared those who drink at moderate levels to people who consume no alcohol whatsoever, rather than comparing those who drink heavily versus at lower levels.

There are many reasons why people who drink at moderate levels may be fundamentally different – and healthier – than those who do not drink at all. For example, many people who develop new illnesses unrelated to their alcohol use quit drinking, making the group of alcohol abstainers appear less healthy than those who consume alcohol at low or moderate levels.

In 2018, the National Institutes of Health initiated a large randomized control trial – the gold standard for understanding causal relationships – to look into the benefits of moderate drinking.

That trial was designed to pick up the heart benefits of consuming one drink a day, but was not going to be able to detect the negative consequences of moderate alcohol use, such as increases in breast cancer. Because of its inability to pick up on known alcohol-related harms and concerns that the study was co-funded by the alcohol industry, the trial was halted after a few months.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alcohol-widely-accepted-us-even-133039796.html


It Was Supposed to Be an Unbiased Study of Drinking. They Wanted to Call It ‘Cheers.’

The director of the nation’s top health research agency pulled the plug on a study of alcohol’s health effects without hesitation on Friday, saying a Harvard scientist and some of his agency’s own staff had crossed “so many lines” in pursuit of alcohol industry funding that “people were frankly shocked.”

A 165-page internal investigation prepared for Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, concluded that Kenneth J. Mukamal, the lead investigator of the trial, was in close, frequent contact with beer and liquor executives while designing the study.

Buried in that document are disturbing examples of the coziness between the scientists and their industry patrons. Dr. Mukamal was eager to allay their concerns, respond to their questions and suggestions, and secure the industry’s buy-in.


https://www.citizen.org/news/it-was-supposed-to-be-an-unbiased-study-of-drinking-they-wanted-to-call-it-cheers/
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: bigmikecox on January 06, 2025, 07:02:01 AM
SMOKE WEED!

YOU'RE WELCOME
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: IroNat on January 06, 2025, 07:12:02 AM
Got an expensive bottle of Scotch for Christmas and you can bet I'll be drinking it, cancer be damned.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2025, 07:14:14 AM
Got an expensive bottle of Scotch for Christmas and you can bet I'll be drinking it, cancer be damned.

Details are important here.

Please list.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: IroNat on January 06, 2025, 07:19:21 AM
Details are important here.

Please list.

Expensive for me as compared to my usual bottom shelf swill.

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-u9ww3di/images/stencil/1920w/products/6428/8838/macallan_12_double_cask__33160.1472240513.JPG?c=2)
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 06, 2025, 11:18:40 AM
Churchill will be shocked to hear this.

Side effect of living is death. Lincoln, Titanic, Etc.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Grape Ape on January 06, 2025, 11:25:01 AM
Expensive for me as compared to my usual bottom shelf swill.

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-u9ww3di/images/stencil/1920w/products/6428/8838/macallan_12_double_cask__33160.1472240513.JPG?c=2)

That's a good bottle.  You will like it.

I had the fortune once of falling ass backwards into an all expenses paid trip to the US open when it was in Shinnecock (NH) NY.

That brand was a sponsor, so basically had unlimited access, and that's what I chose to drink Thurs-Sun.

Extremely enjoyable.

Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: GymnJuice on January 06, 2025, 11:34:28 AM
I think it’s quite obvious that the greater consumption of alcohol, the greater risk of physical effects. This is no conspiracy theory. I don’t think it goes back and forth. No research study has ever found that alcohol is good for you (in the general sense). There may be differences in the effects of alcohol based on individual physiology , but the consensus is that it’s bad for you.

It’s more likely that big tobacco and big alcohol and big sugar has been trying to stifle these studies to keep their own gravy train moving.

Asians get drunk from less alcohol. Do they get cancer from less alcohol too?
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: ElPolloSalmonello on January 06, 2025, 03:18:26 PM
I drank at least 40 beers lost the ability to count one night in college while tripping on acid.

HTH
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: ElPolloSalmonello on January 06, 2025, 04:54:41 PM
I quit booze and weed recently. Booze went first - I think October 28th it was (but fuck "counting days") - I visited the UK to meet up with all my buddies from school and our 20s. They all still drink - I stuck to "Guinness 0.0". I got through the whole of Christmas and New Year without it.

I'm basically over it. It holds no appeal at all. I had no plans to quit forever - I didn't want the pressure - but I feel that's where I am now. I go out with the boys and they all handled it like cool friends - they patted me on the back and respected it and never once said "have a real drink" - one stepson of a mate that doesn't know my history made a jibe about my Guinness 0 order - but my mate pounced on him - and ended it. Not that I needed a white knight -but I have good people.

Weed I got into 500mg of gummies a night. Quit that in December - that was a bit of a nightmare - a rebound - but now I have no vices. Nothing to give up. I feel good. I have energy.

Basically - it's all shit that simply borrows from tomorrow. I can hang out with drinkers and soak up the atmosphere and sort of get taken up with it.

It's dogshit. But I have no issue with those still on it. To be honest - they make times more fun and allow me to take my guard down too.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: ElPolloSalmonello on January 06, 2025, 04:56:40 PM
The liver converts ethanol to acetaldehyde in an attempt to get the ethanol out of the bloodstream. Acetaldehyde is a know carcinogen but you need elevated quantities over a period of time to trigger tumors.

Acetaldehyde is also in tobacco smoke and in vaping. It is also naturally  in some fruits, in fragrances, etc.

So if you have an occasional drink you are ok. It is the chronic exposure that is the problem.

When you drink - your liver treats alcohol like a poison and prioritizes processing it over processing fat and other stuff.
In addition - it dehydrates you and causes water retention.

So yeah - makes you look a fat fuck for more than just the calories in it.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: joswift on January 06, 2025, 05:00:15 PM
When you drink - your liver treats alcohol like a poison and prioritizes processing it over processing fat and other stuff.
In addition - it dehydrates you and causes water retention.

So yeah - makes you look a fat fuck for more than just the calories in it.
(https://media.istockphoto.com/id/520002309/photo/uhhhmm.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=E_n9CS0eX1gRe-avLV51qS5ipw74Etixc5hLTHvWeJw=)
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 07, 2025, 12:00:39 AM
Alcohol use is widely accepted in the US, but even moderate consumption is associated with many harmful effects

In the past two decades, the idea that moderate drinking may actually confer health benefits has taken hold, backed up by some preliminary and limited evidence. This led to the broad notion in the popular media that a glass of red wine a day reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

But there was one major flaw in many of the studies used to back up the claim that a glass of red wine is good for health. They compared those who drink at moderate levels to people who consume no alcohol whatsoever, rather than comparing those who drink heavily versus at lower levels.

There are many reasons why people who drink at moderate levels may be fundamentally different – and healthier – than those who do not drink at all. For example, many people who develop new illnesses unrelated to their alcohol use quit drinking, making the group of alcohol abstainers appear less healthy than those who consume alcohol at low or moderate levels.

In 2018, the National Institutes of Health initiated a large randomized control trial – the gold standard for understanding causal relationships – to look into the benefits of moderate drinking.

That trial was designed to pick up the heart benefits of consuming one drink a day, but was not going to be able to detect the negative consequences of moderate alcohol use, such as increases in breast cancer. Because of its inability to pick up on known alcohol-related harms and concerns that the study was co-funded by the alcohol industry, the trial was halted after a few months.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alcohol-widely-accepted-us-even-133039796.html


It Was Supposed to Be an Unbiased Study of Drinking. They Wanted to Call It ‘Cheers.’

The director of the nation’s top health research agency pulled the plug on a study of alcohol’s health effects without hesitation on Friday, saying a Harvard scientist and some of his agency’s own staff had crossed “so many lines” in pursuit of alcohol industry funding that “people were frankly shocked.”

A 165-page internal investigation prepared for Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, concluded that Kenneth J. Mukamal, the lead investigator of the trial, was in close, frequent contact with beer and liquor executives while designing the study.

Buried in that document are disturbing examples of the coziness between the scientists and their industry patrons. Dr. Mukamal was eager to allay their concerns, respond to their questions and suggestions, and secure the industry’s buy-in.


https://www.citizen.org/news/it-was-supposed-to-be-an-unbiased-study-of-drinking-they-wanted-to-call-it-cheers/
My point was that we get conflicting "studies" every year on this stuff as well as all types of food and diets.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: CalvinH on January 07, 2025, 05:49:34 AM
Hopefully bourbon prices will come down now.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: wes on January 07, 2025, 05:50:35 AM
Hopefully bourbon prices will come down now.
My nikka !  ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: loco on January 07, 2025, 05:54:44 AM
My point was that we get conflicting "studies" every year on this stuff as well as all types of food and diets.

Of course we do, truth vs industry.  I am going to go ahead and believe the studies that aren't funded by the food industry, Big Pharma, and the alcohol industry.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: IroNat on January 07, 2025, 09:17:54 AM
I have a few shots of liquor a week, always at home.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: wes on January 07, 2025, 10:01:52 AM
I have a few shots of liquor a week, always at home.
No egg in your beer Nat....I`m shocked !!
 :o
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: wes on January 07, 2025, 10:08:27 AM
Quite a few people have often ask me it it bothers me if they drink in front of me,I tell them that if I wanted to drink I`d stop at the liquor store and drink them under the table,and when they passed out I`d go hit the bars until 2 AM or until I got thrown out or arrested.

I have no desire to ever drink again......people like those mentioned above are just fucking plain old stupid.

At other times working the door at a bar in sobriety, guys that would never buy me a drink if I was dying for one would offer all night to buy me a few after they found out I was quitting booze,another guy I know asked me to taste his rock glass of JD.....I asked him if he didn`t think it was JD to take it back to the bartender.....he insisted I taste it until I had to tell him to fuck off.

People don`t like to see you better yourself,they like to keep you on their level cuz they don`t have the balls to quit, in spite of the fact that they know they are nothing but garden variety drunks with no intestinal fortitude.

Weaklings Of Peace
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: IroNat on January 07, 2025, 10:16:34 AM
No egg in your beer Nat....I`m shocked !!
 :o

  :D
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: ElPolloSalmonello on January 07, 2025, 12:53:15 PM
(https://media.istockphoto.com/id/520002309/photo/uhhhmm.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=E_n9CS0eX1gRe-avLV51qS5ipw74Etixc5hLTHvWeJw=)

lol - I know it sounds odd

dehydration causes your body to hold onto water - and your stomach pulls water from other parts of the body.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 07, 2025, 07:31:01 PM
Seriously, what does a "natural" death even mean?


Only Hazmat Brah knows.

Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 08, 2025, 12:09:48 AM
Of course we do, truth vs industry.  I am going to go ahead and believe the studies that aren't funded by the food industry, Big Pharma, and the alcohol industry.
I'll believe common sense and observation. Everybody doing these studies is funded by somebody.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 08, 2025, 03:56:30 AM
Didn't Jesus make some wine at a party when everyone was already drunk and people wondered why they'd saved the best for last?
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: King Shizzo on January 08, 2025, 06:09:53 AM

Only Hazmat Brah knows.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 08, 2025, 07:04:22 AM
I'll believe common sense and observation. Everybody doing these studies is funded by somebody.

Lmfao

“Common sense and observation” is how you end up thinking the world is flat

My point was that we get conflicting "studies" every year on this stuff as well as all types of food and diets.

No we dont  ???

Share a recent (5 years or less) peer-reviewed study showing the beneficial effects of alcohol consumption.  You cant, because they dont exist.

You’ve been bamboozled by the alcohol industry into believing their propaganda, and you are couching it in some “maybe the truth is in the middle” nonsense.
Title: Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 08, 2025, 11:41:45 PM
Lmfao

“Common sense and observation” is how you end up thinking the world is flat

No we dont  ???

Share a recent (5 years or less) peer-reviewed study showing the beneficial effects of alcohol consumption.  You cant, because they dont exist.

You’ve been bamboozled by the alcohol industry into believing their propaganda, and you are couching it in some “maybe the truth is in the middle” nonsense.
https://www.medicaldaily.com/7-health-benefits-drinking-alcohol-247552
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9115901/
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-014-0182-6
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0233619