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so at the ripe old age of 59 Ive been diagnosed type 2. My blood test was off the chart with a reading of 12.8 glucose (normal is 4 to 6). Im not surprised because although I hit the gym regularly my food choices were beyond awful. I took the blood test the day after my birthday so that probably didnt help lol, that was 2 months ago. I immediately switched to a not quite keto eating (60 to 80 grams carbs per day) and hammer the protein 300g protein 100g fat and within a month my readings were constantly in the 6's, as low as 5.4. (i have a home test thing). Shitty part is I got neuropathy which isnt an overly big deal just kinda sucks. In the end its been a blessing in disguise because I really like eating this way and my training seems to be a lot better. Anyways, if anyone else is type 2 and has tips feel free to chime in
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Congrats on taking the right steps to get the diabetes in check.
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Congrats on taking the right steps to get the diabetes in check.
thanks nat
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I have Type 1.......it sucks.
All the best to you.
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You got the training in check, now you have the diet.
Good work.
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so at the ripe old age of 59 Ive been diagnosed type 2. My blood test was off the chart with a reading of 12.8 glucose (normal is 4 to 6). Im not surprised because although I hit the gym regularly my food choices were beyond awful. I took the blood test the day after my birthday so that probably didnt help lol, that was 2 months ago. I immediately switched to a not quite keto eating (60 to 80 grams carbs per day) and hammer the protein 300g protein 100g fat and within a month my readings were constantly in the 6's, as low as 5.4. (i have a home test thing). Shitty part is I got neuropathy which isnt an overly big deal just kinda sucks. In the end its been a blessing in disguise because I really like eating this way and my training seems to be a lot better. Anyways, if anyone else is type 2 and has tips feel free to chime in
Sent a PM which is worthless but all the best my brother.
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Carbonaut bread is the worst thing I eat now. Fuk it tastes soooo good----the seeded one
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I have Type 1.......it sucks.
All the best to you.
How many times a day do you have you take insulin?
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so at the ripe old age of 59 Ive been diagnosed type 2. My blood test was off the chart with a reading of 12.8 glucose (normal is 4 to 6). Im not surprised because although I hit the gym regularly my food choices were beyond awful. I took the blood test the day after my birthday so that probably didnt help lol, that was 2 months ago. I immediately switched to a not quite keto eating (60 to 80 grams carbs per day) and hammer the protein 300g protein 100g fat and within a month my readings were constantly in the 6's, as low as 5.4. (i have a home test thing). Shitty part is I got neuropathy which isnt an overly big deal just kinda sucks. In the end its been a blessing in disguise because I really like eating this way and my training seems to be a lot better. Anyways, if anyone else is type 2 and has tips feel free to chime in
I'm 64 & got type 2 - it took a while for them to diagnose & it
ravaged my body ' stripped what little body fat I had & a lot of Muscle
I'm on Metformin tablets 2x a day & fast acting insulin pens when I
want / need.
Thankfully I'm gaining my weight / Muscle mass back.
And reading of 12 isnt high - when i was in hospital ( kidney stone &
Infection ) they got a high reading of 32.6 !!! :o
Yet the doc's & nurses didnt seem to bothered.
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I'm 64 & got type 2 - it took a while for them to diagnose & it
ravaged my body ' stripped what little body fat I had & a lot of Muscle
I'm on Metformin tablets 2x a day & fast acting insulin pens when I
want / need.
Thankfully I'm gaining my weight / Muscle mass back.
And reading of 12 isnt high - when i was in hospital ( kidney stone &
Infection ) they got a high reading of 32.6 !!! :o
Yet the doc's & nurses didnt seem to bothered.
What health lifestyle advices did the docs give you?
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I'm 64 & got type 2 - it took a while for them to diagnose & it
ravaged my body ' stripped what little body fat I had & a lot of Muscle
I'm on Metformin tablets 2x a day & fast acting insulin pens when I
want / need.
Thankfully I'm gaining my weight / Muscle mass back.
And reading of 12 isnt high - when i was in hospital ( kidney stone &
Infection ) they got a high reading of 32.6 !!! :o
Yet the doc's & nurses didnt seem to bothered.
32.6, my god how are you alive? Thats crazy
i didnt lose a pound nor did i gain a pound, i stayed the same but my strength in the gym is at levels i havent seen since i was 28. All I take is creatine and shit tons of protein although im pretty sure the diabetes didnt make me stronger lol. Im also on the metformin twice a day, zero side effects from it so thats good.
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I got the bastard last year as well mate despite eating reasonably well most the time and being extremely active, was annoying as loads of my family are fat fucking slobs yet have fuck all wrong with them
I got a touch of neuropathy too my toes tingle at night I went protein/fat for a while upon the advice of ironat on here.
On metformin and gilcazide 2000mg each a day and seems to be under control 1ac was 106 at diagnosis was 83 a few months later then they doubled my meds but haven’t been tested since
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What health lifestyle advices did the docs give you?
Fuck all - just said go back to my diabetic nurse & she'd sort it.
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32.6, my god how are you alive? Thats crazy
i didnt lose a pound nor did i gain a pound, i stayed the same but my strength in the gym is at levels i havent seen since i was 28. All I take is creatine and shit tons of protein although im pretty sure the diabetes didnt make me stronger lol. Im also on the metformin twice a day, zero side effects from it so thats good.
I was in for near 6 days & the lowest reading they got was 13.
Think there were 3 readings that were in the 30s & a whole stack, in the 20s
Glad the metformin are working for you.
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I got the bastard last year as well mate despite eating reasonably well most the time and being extremely active, was annoying as loads of my family are fat fucking slobs yet have fuck all wrong with them
I got a touch of neuropathy too my toes tingle at night I went protein/fat for a while upon the advice of ironat on here.
On metformin and gilcazide 2000mg each a day and seems to be under control 1ac was 106 at diagnosis was 83 a few months later then they doubled my meds but haven’t been tested since
did you get any sidee effects from the glicazide? My doc prescribed it but I wouldnt take it was scared of sides.
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I got the bastard last year as well mate despite eating reasonably well most the time and being extremely active, was annoying as loads of my family are fat fucking slobs yet have fuck all wrong with them
I got a touch of neuropathy too my toes tingle at night I went protein/fat for a while upon the advice of ironat on here.
On metformin and gilcazide 2000mg each a day and seems to be under control 1ac was 106 at diagnosis was 83 a few months later then they doubled my meds but haven’t been tested since
Yes I always ate fairly clean & kept a low bodyfat level (around 10-12%)
It appears my insulin just gradually stopped working & I was making lots of it
Non stop - hence the insane thirst I had constantly.
So glad thats now stopped.
I'm being checked once a month - its very useful having the blood glucose
Monitor - though I can now tell if its above around 15 as get a strange taste
In my mouth. The insulin pens work great.
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did you get any sidee effects from the glicazide? My doc prescribed it but I wouldnt take it was scared of sides.
First month or so I felt very nauseous all the time as well as upset stomach/going to the bog more (doesent take much to give me bad guts though as have no large intestine) but they subsided after a month or so I almost packed them in for the nausea at first but everything ok now even since doubling the dose mate
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Yes I always ate fairly clean & kept a low bodyfat level (around 10-12%)
It appears my insulin just gradually stopped working & I was making lots of it
Non stop - hence the insane thirst I had constantly.
So glad thats now stopped.
I'm being checked once a month - its very useful having the blood glucose
Monitor - though I can now tell if its above around 15 as get a strange taste
In my mouth. The insulin pens work great.
Sounds similar mate I’m still producing insulin but body just not using it, I also lost loads of weigh went from 99kg to 84 or so before I got diagnosed despite trying to eat more to stop it.
One consultant even tried to blame testosterone use for diabetes despite there being plenty studies showing it can actually help.
I’m not on insulin they told me will have too If 1ac doesent go doen after doubling dose they gave me a monitor but I gave up testing as it was depressing haha mine was highest in the morning when I was testing was always 10-12 on waking but 4.5-6 before tea
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Sounds similar mate I’m still producing insulin but body just not using it, I also lost loads of weigh went from 99kg to 84 or so before I got diagnosed despite trying to eat more to stop it.
One consultant even tried to blame testosterone use for diabetes despite there being plenty studies showing it can actually help.
I’m not on insulin they told me will have too If 1ac doesent go doen after doubling dose they gave me a monitor but I gave up testing as it was depressing haha mine was highest in the morning when I was testing was always 10-12 on waking but 4.5-6 before tea
yes exact same. They say do fasted testing but in the morning I was always high, in the 8s.....2 hours after a meal Im in the 6s.
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oh ya Henda, I forgot to ask. Were you or are you still getting up a lot in the night to piss? I was getting up 6 times a night thankfully only a couple now
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oh ya Henda, I forgot to ask. Were you or are you still getting up a lot in the night to piss? I was getting up 6 times a night thankfully only a couple now
Yes mate loads I just thought I was getting old till was diagnosed and told that was a sign but it’s calmed down loads now since getting on meds back to the usual 1 or 2 I had as long as can remember
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Sounds similar mate I’m still producing insulin but body just not using it, I also lost loads of weigh went from 99kg to 84 or so before I got diagnosed despite trying to eat more to stop it.
One consultant even tried to blame testosterone use for diabetes despite there being plenty studies showing it can actually help.
I’m not on insulin they told me will have too If 1ac doesent go doen after doubling dose they gave me a monitor but I gave up testing as it was depressing haha mine was highest in the morning when I was testing was always 10-12 on waking but 4.5-6 before tea
The losing weight/ muscle mass is a Bastard, I thought I'd lost a lot went from
Around 102 down to 88/9 & lost strength 🤬
Mind I was in near contest condition.
It also affected my vision / Motivation/ concentration/ thinking & was sleeping
All the time.
Glad to be on the up & up Now.
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The losing weight/ muscle mass is a Bastard, I thought I'd lost a lot went from
Around 102 down to 88/9 & lost strength 🤬
Mind I was in near contest condition.
It also affected my vision / Motivation/ concentration/ thinking & was sleeping
All the time.
Glad to be on the up & up Now.
do you have one of those things on the back of your arm now, or do you do a pin prick test now and then?
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do you have one of those things on the back of your arm now, or do you do a pin prick test now and then?
I do the pin test 2 or 3 times a day.
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Type 2 Diabetes was diagnosed around early November, with a glucose level of 11.2% (been that high for 2+ years). Took Metformin for a month, then stopped because it was whacking my stomach, but the best thing I did was get a Freestyle Libra 3, which tells me what was actually spiking me with the sugar glucose. That helped the most. Stopped rice, sushi, oatmeal and basically watched the spiking levels, and within 3 months, went to to about 6.9%, which I am now.
Learned a ton about what to eat, etc. More protein, definitely more fat (aka, olives, humas, even real ice cream) and eating protein with fat and less carbs made me, in 3-4 months, lose 30 pounds too, which is cool. Yes, can't eat pasta or dumplings, but worth it at the end learning about what spikes glucose. Not what I thought would do it too.
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Type 2 Diabetes was diagnosed around early November, with a glucose level of 11.2% (been that high for 2+ years). Took Metformin for a month, then stopped because it was whacking my stomach, but the best thing I did was get a Freestyle Libra 3, which tells me what was actually spiking me with the sugar glucose. That helped the most. Stopped rice, sushi, oatmeal and basically watched the spiking levels, and within 3 months, went to to about 6.9%, which I am now.
Learned a ton about what to eat, etc. More protein, definitely more fat (aka, olives, humas, even real ice cream) and eating protein with fat and less carbs made me, in 3-4 months, lose 30 pounds too, which is cool. Yes, can't eat pasta or dumplings, but worth it at the end learning about what spikes glucose. Not what I thought would do it too.
That's what you have to do.
Good job, Ron.
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do you guys get some high readings now and then even though you stick to doing right things?
Im pretty religious about exercise and food but did a 9.5 on the glucose meter today and thats insanely high for me. Doesnt worry me, just frustrating since im doing things correctly
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^^^^^ I have a Freestyle Libra monitor but my readings are very different than yours.
Of course it is probably because I have Type 1 Diabetes.
For instance a low reading would/could be 69 and a hypothetical high reading could be 195.
My Endo wants my blood/glucose level to stay between the 70-160 range ideally.
If I drink my usual 2 cups of coffee in the AM with artificial sweetener my levels go into the 200 plus range so it`s not just carbs that can cause spikes.
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^^^^^ I have a Freestyle Libra monitor but my readings are very different than yours.
Of course it is probably because I have Type 1 Diabetes.
For instance a low reading would/could be 69 and a hypothetical high reading could be 195.
My Endo wants my blood/glucose level to stay between the 70-160 range ideally.
If I drink my usual 2 cups of coffee in the AM with artificial sweetener my levels go into the 200 plus range so it`s not just carbs that can cause spikes.
Id absolutely love to get a libre but so cant afford it
the finger prick readings are measured differently than libre, I dont know the technical jargon for it
ah fuck we are doomed anyways, lets just go you know where and take a cattle prod to you know who
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oh ya Henda, I forgot to ask. Were you or are you still getting up a lot in the night to piss? I was getting up 6 times a night thankfully only a couple now
I`m up all night pissing................. was always this way but now it`s tenfold................f ucks up my already lack of sound sleeping. :(
I do 23 IU`s of a pen daily so it could be worse if I had to take fast acting insulin in conjunction with the fucking pen.
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I`m up all night pissing................. was always this way but now it`s tenfold................f ucks up my already lack of sound sleeping. :(
I do 23 IU`s of a pen daily so it could be worse if I had to take fast acting insulin in conjunction with the fucking pen.
if i have carbs im pissing all night, less carbs less pissing,....only got up twice last night which was nice
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if i have carbs im pissing all night, less carbs less pissing,....only got up twice last night which was nice
I eat too many carbs, so when I piss I excrete blood sugar which lowers your BG levels.
I have to really tighten up my diet.
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if i have carbs im pissing all night, less carbs less pissing,....only got up twice last night which was nice
are you taking metformin?... i got diagnosed type 2 a couple years back and was able to correct it w low carbs and stopping hgh... i was a borderline case tho... i took metformin and had no problems except for lack of a pump in the gym.. took about a month for my stomach and ass to adjust.. good to hear from ya tho brother!
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are you taking metformin?... i got diagnosed type 2 a couple years back and was able to correct it w low carbs and stopping hgh... i was a borderline case tho... i took metformin and had no problems except for lack of a pump in the gym.. took about a month for my stomach and ass to adjust.. good to hear from ya tho brother!
ya ive been on the metformin since Feb 1. No issues with it. I found out today that when you go hard in the gym and it raises cortisol levels your glucose levels will also go up with the cortisol. I had no idea. I measured mine after the gym so Im guessing correlation there
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Id absolutely love to get a libre but so cant afford it
the finger prick readings are measured differently than libre, I dont know the technical jargon for it
ah fuck we are doomed anyways, lets just go you know where and take a cattle prod to you know who
Medicaid covered my monitor......I also have the finger stick one just in case I run out of sensors that attach to the back of my arm.
The fucki9ng sensors go for $166.00......can`t tell you how many times I accidentaly knocked one off on a doorway or taking off a shirt etc. etc.
I`m just glad I don`t have to pay for them or I`d be fucked.
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ya ive been on the metformin since Feb 1. No issues with it. I found out today that when you go hard in the gym and it raises cortisol levels your glucose levels will also go up with the cortisol. I had no idea. I measured mine after the gym so Im guessing correlation there
Is it true that metformin can be tough on the kidneys ?
I got my cattle prod charging as I type this. ;D
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^^^^^ I have a Freestyle Libra monitor but my readings are very different than yours.
Of course it is probably because I have Type 1 Diabetes.
For instance a low reading would/could be 69 and a hypothetical high reading could be 195.
My Endo wants my blood/glucose level to stay between the 70-160 range ideally.
If I drink my usual 2 cups of coffee in the AM with artificial sweetener my levels go into the 200 plus range so it`s not just carbs that can cause spikes.
Some artificial sweeteners "fool" the body and are recognized as sugar and trigger an insulin response.
That may be what causes your reaction.
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Blood glucose levels are naturally higher in the early morning because the body ramps up glucose production for energy it anticipates being needed.
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Some artificial sweeteners "fool" the body and are recognized as sugar and trigger an insulin response.
That may be what causes your reaction.
Yeah I thought of that Nat as I had read it online before.
I`ll ask my doc,though you are probably correct.
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Yeah I thought of that Nat as I had read it online before.
I`ll ask my doc,though you are probably correct.
No need to ask your Doc.
I play one on Getbig. :D
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The Freestyle Libre 3 is expensive, but once a doctor oks it, you can get deals from various pharmacies sometimes. Last time, we got a 2-pack at CVS for $150 for both, which was the best deal so far. But kinda cool watching the 'glucose' levels as I learn, what I can eat or not.
For instance, I go to a sushi place or dumpling place, and the levels shoot up extremely for a few hours, so staying away from those.
But today, I ate a huge piece of ice cream vanilla cake, and shot up a little, and then went way down.
For me, eating more fat and protein slows down the glucose rising rate, and makes it go down lower. For others, different experiences.
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Fat can cause insulin resistance just as badly as carbs can.
A steady blood glucose level doesnt mean much if it requires your body to make massive amounts of insulin to acheive it.
The key to reversing type 2 diabetes is to get the fat out of the liver and the pancreas.
The way to do that is a sustained energy deficit until that happens and insulin sensitivity returns.
Dr Roy Taylor is the best diabetes guy out there. Search for him on youtube.
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Fat can cause insulin resistance just as badly as carbs can.
A steady blood glucose level doesnt mean much if it requires your body to make massive amounts of insulin to acheive it.
The key to reversing type 2 diabetes is to get the fat out of the liver and the pancreas.
The way to do that is a sustained energy deficit until that happens and insulin sensitivity returns.
Dr Roy Taylor is the best diabetes guy out there. Search for him on youtube.
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Good points. Will watch the video, thanks. I've also read that excess protein is another factor, it's well known it can cause resistance, I think particularly the BCAAs, lots of papers on this but unsure how relevant in context.
My fasting and A1C have been good but I've eaten ungodly amounts of carbs and sugar for so long it's a miracle I don't have Type 2, that I know of. Used lots of insulin too and a many other bad things as well. Used metformin, unprescribed, to counter some.
I wonder if there are supps to limit the nerve damage from high glucose, things that actually might work to a degree? I know lipoic acid is a drug for this in Germany but I know some studies say it's ineffective. There's Benfotiamine, a vitamin B2 analogue, I think it has been sold as a drug for diabetics and used to be popular in life extension circles. Maybe acetyl-l-carnitine? Not sure if a chromium supp could be useful to help the body use insulin more effectively, it's also known as "glucose tolerance factor." I know there was some tiny trial showing a high dose, 2K mics, increased acute protein synthesis a lot so I saw it in some bodybuilding supps fairly recently. Back in the 90s chromium was pushed like crazy in Muscular Development mag by a doctor named Dr Colgan. They put chromium picolinate in all the Twinlab supps at the time.
Obviously diet and obesity and exercise are key, just interested in all the substances you can take too, as everyone here knows. Shoot me :D
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Some artificial sweeteners "fool" the body and are recognized as sugar and trigger an insulin response.
That may be what causes your reaction.
This doesn’t make sense. If the artificial sweeteners triggered an insulin response, they would LOWER his blood sugar.
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This doesn’t make sense. If the artificial sweeteners triggered an insulin response, they would LOWER his blood sugar.
Exactly and that was disproven long ago so it's not true anyway.
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This doesn’t make sense. If the artificial sweeteners triggered an insulin response, they would LOWER his blood sugar.
Right, that's what the video I posted says.
This puts a strain on the pancreas to produce excess insulin just like eating carbs and sugars.
Eventually, usually over decades of high carb and sugar consumption, the pancreas' ability to produce insulin decreases and now blood glucose becomes unmanageable and results in Type 2 diabetes.
A "normal" blood glucose level just means your pancreas is producing enough insulin to counter the glucose in your bloodsteam.
It says nothing about how hard your pancreas is working to produce the insulin.
Wes has an entirely different situation because a tumor on his pancreas shut it down.
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Right, that's what the video I posted says.
This puts a strain on the pancreas to produce excess insulin just like eating carbs and sugars.
Eventually, usually over decades of high carb and sugar consumption, the pancreas' ability to produce insulin decreases and now blood glucose becomes unmanageable and results in Type 2 diabetes.
Wes has an entirely different situation because a tumor on his pancreas shut it down.
I don’t follow. You claimed that Wes experiences a rise in his blood glucose after consuming artificial sweeteners because they “ are recognized as sugar and trigger an insulin response”
If these sweeteners triggered the body to release insulin, as you claim, consuming them in the absence of other consumed carbohydrates would lead to a decrease in blood sugar.
Please explain to me how insulin release results in an acute increase in blood glucose levels.
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This puts a strain on the pancreas to produce excess insulin just like eating carbs and sugars.
Eventually, usually over decades of high carb and sugar consumption, the pancreas' ability to produce insulin decreases and now blood glucose becomes unmanageable and results in Type 2 diabetes.
Wes has an entirely different situation because a tumor on his pancreas shut it down.
As far as I know the high glucose level also destroys the insulin producing cells of the pancreas. Which is why some specialists, from what I've read, advocate putting some Type 2 diabetics on insulin injections quickly after diagnosis to get the levels under control, instead of just the oral anti-diabetics. Obviously the glucose wrecks all the other organs as well. Insulin injections do not necessarily have to become permanent either, they can prevent having to go on permanent insulin, as bodybuilders who use high dosages of GH know, it can be protective. Many of the orals make the pancreas produce more insulin anyway, not metformin but others 8)
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I don’t follow. You claimed that Wes experiences a rise in his blood glucose after consuming artificial sweeteners because they “ are recognized as sugar and trigger an insulin response”
If these sweeteners triggered the body to release insulin, as you claim, consuming them in the absence of other consumed carbohydrates would lead to a decrease in blood sugar.
Please explain to me how insulin release results in an acute increase in blood glucose levels.
You are right. I inferred that as a possibility of it messing with his glucose levels but that shouldn't happen normally.
After research the opposite should happen because of the increased insulin production dropping blood glucose.
My bad.
Wes has more serious problems so I have no idea what is going on with him.
Please contact my office to schedule an appointment for a complete blood workup.
Dr. IroNat of Getbig
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As far as I know the high glucose level also destroys the insulin producing cells of the pancreas. Which is why some specialists, from what I've read, advocate putting some Type 2 diabetics on insulin injections quickly after diagnosis to get the levels under control, instead of just the oral anti-diabetics. Obviously the glucose wrecks all the other organs as well. Insulin injections do not necessarily have to become permanent either, they can prevent having to go on permanent insulin, as bodybuilders who use high dosages of GH know, it can be protective. Many of the orals make the pancreas produce more insulin anyway, not metformin but others 8)
Adding more drugs to counter the weakening pancreas instead of actually solving the cause (excessive carbs and sugars in the diet) is typical western medicine relying on drugs to solve what is a lifestyle issue.
The end result of this type of medicine is just making things worse so that the patient becomes a full-blown Type-2.
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Adding more drugs to counter the weakening pancreas instead of actually solving the cause (excessive carbs and sugars in the diet) is typical western medicine relying on drugs to solve what is a lifestyle issue.
The end result of this type of medicine is just making things worse so that the patient becomes a full-blown Type-2.
** Free online consultation. Dr. IroNat of Getbig. **
Besides money they also believe most people are too undisciplined to change their diet and stick with it.
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Adding more drugs to counter the weakening pancreas instead of actually solving the cause (excessive carbs and sugars in the diet) is typical western medicine relying on drugs to solve what is a lifestyle issue.
The end result of this type of medicine is just making things worse so that the patient becomes a full-blown Type-2.
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Absolutely. However, everyone knows most people don't change their eating or exercise habits. Doctors know this, so what to do? Hell, I've known several people who haven't even bothered to take their metformin because whatever reason, "I have 10 bottles at home, I've picked them up but just forgot to take it." I wrote these long paragraphs several times before on why I think only drugs can solve the obesity epidemic, because the availability of food will have people eating no matter what risks :D ;D I think I'm right and everything is proving I'm right, now that people got on ozempic suddenly many fatties lost at least some weight, because they can't eat while on it :D Naturally there are exceptions of course, like Ron above, but most have a big problem changing their habits. I think it's very silly how many talk about how you just gotta have "willpower," and how "doctors just write you prescriptions instead of telling his patients how to eat and exercise, it's all big pharma's fault and the docs get kickbacks." I don't know about all you guys' experiences but I'm pretty sure basically all doctors will talk about diet and exercise with their Type 2 patients, it just doesn't work most of the time so they write the script, what else should they do? :D
But yes, I agree totally that it's largely a lifestyle issue 8)
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Besides money they also believe most people are too undisciplined to change their diet and stick with it.
Yes! And they are correct! It's not like they try to trick their patients into continuing their shitty diet and try to prevent you from exercising :D 8) I'm sure many will even refer you to a dietician after a diagnosis.
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So true, Van and Humble.
These people now act like the Ozempic type drugs are a miracle but really the weight loss is simply from eating less.
However, simple but not easy to eat less. It's very hard to do long-term.
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So true, Van and Humble.
These people now act like the Ozempic type drugs are a miracle but really the weight loss is simply from eating less.
However, simple but not easy to eat less. It's very hard to do long-term.
Though it appears ozempic will be used for a multitude of other health ailments, even addiction, at least they have sought a bunch of patents in different areas. This was a real pharma winner to say the least. I read that in the US gym chains are selling package deals, a gym membership which gives you a doctor's consultation and a script for ozempic. Genius. Lift weights so you shift the 50:50 ratio of fat vs muscle lost on the drug :D
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Wes has an entirely different situation because a tumor on his pancreas shut it down.
Exactly,since I have Cancer of the Pancreas,my Pancreas no longer produces any insulin at all.