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Title: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: migizi on August 11, 2006, 08:57:53 AM
Could you please post your low carb typical day? from war of the worlds?       Thanks
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 09:06:07 AM
207 was about as low as we wen't...

Here's a sample of my last week:

Meal 1- 15 eggwhites, 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 3- 12 oz. chicken, 8 oz. potatoes

Meal 4- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 5- 12 oz. steak, 5 oz. potatoes

Meal 6- protein shake (1c. eggwhites/ protein powder
           small salad w/ balsalmic
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: jaejonna on August 11, 2006, 09:08:25 AM
Thats a good helping of carbs...it amazes me that people cut out all carbs to a ridiculous point ..... well done Chick!
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on August 11, 2006, 09:10:07 AM
207 was about as low as we wen't...

Here's a sample of my last week:

Meal 1- 15 eggwhites, 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 3- 12 oz. chicken, 8 oz. potatoes

Meal 4- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 5- 12 oz. steak, 5 oz. potatoes

Meal 6- protein shake (1c. eggwhites/ protein powder
           small salad w/ balsalmic

2 1/4 lbs. of steak a day is a ton. What kind of steak are you eating? Does your body have any problems digesting all that red meat?

I do 1-12 large egg whites with three tablespoons of salsa and it's about all I can stand. What do you put on 15 eggwhites to make them edible?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 09:13:00 AM
No, I would alternate throughout the week with chicken...I only throw the salad in late night to help in digestion, etc.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: migizi on August 11, 2006, 09:21:39 AM
hey thanks Chick!   no ketchup or anything with the steak? 
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Vince B on August 11, 2006, 09:22:03 AM
Amazing what bodybuilders do. Where is the research that supports ingesting that much protein? In my opinion that diet is absurd and a waste of resources. The extra protein will be converted into energy because the body cannot use that much protein in a day. I guess I know nothing and am out of date. Nothing has changed with bodybuilders and most are totally unscientific about nutrition and training.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: jaejonna on August 11, 2006, 09:22:55 AM
When you were younger Chick did you find that your body was able to acheive better conditioning even though your diet was not as sophisticated as today ? And when did it change to a point where dieting was more crucial?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: gatrainer on August 11, 2006, 09:24:51 AM
Amazing what bodybuilders do. Where is the research that supports ingesting that much protein? In my opinion that diet is absurd and a waste of resources. The extra protein will be converted into energy because the body cannot use that much protein in a day. I guess I know nothing and am out of date. Nothing has changed with bodybuilders and most are totally unscientific about nutrition and training.
maybe you should stick to telling your long-winded stories and working out on your pinch machines then
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on August 11, 2006, 09:25:49 AM
maybe you should stick to telling your long-winded stories and working out on your pinch machines then

What's a pinch machine?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 09:27:28 AM
When you were younger Chick did you find that your body was able to acheive better conditioning even though your diet was not as sophisticated as today ? And when did it change to a point where dieting was more crucial?

Good question...it's kind of a wash, because is an unknown as to what conditioning we could ahve achieved IF we had that knowledge back then...we also overtrained BIGTIME. Classic "If I only knew then, what I know now..."

The biggest difference back then was that we could achieve the same conditioning...but couldn't hold on to the size. That's where the better knowledge came in...


MIGIZI- No, no katchup..lol.

VINCE- Now you see why you were a 160 lb. "Mr. Canada"...
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: gatrainer on August 11, 2006, 09:28:29 AM
What's a pinch machine?
just ask Vince...Im sure he would love to tell  you about it....hope you got 20 minutes to hear about how he is the best at it, and how he has about 12 of them in his gym
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Stavios on August 11, 2006, 09:34:49 AM

VINCE- Now you see why you were a 160 lb. "Mr. Canada"...

Chick, don't hate on the Canada Championship !  >:(


 ;D
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: migizi on August 11, 2006, 10:12:37 AM
Hey Chick What about Crystal light, diet coke, diet pepsi?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: dknole on August 11, 2006, 10:15:59 AM
with no bulk in your diet, did you supplement with fiber for regularity and to reduce any bloating? white rice or brown? why no real vagetables like broccoli, cauliflower, zuccini or whatnot?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: migizi on August 11, 2006, 10:19:54 AM
Chick said white rice
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 10:25:37 AM
Crystal lite is fine...don't drink much diet cola anyway.

Veggies are fine, I just don't eat them very much on a diet, exceptfor steamed broccoli....too much volume.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:29:45 AM
Good question...it's kind of a wash, because is an unknown as to what conditioning we could ahve achieved IF we had that knowledge back then...we also overtrained BIGTIME. Classic "If I only knew then, what I know now..."

The biggest difference back then was that we could achieve the same conditioning...but couldn't hold on to the size. That's where the better knowledge came in...


MIGIZI- No, no katchup..lol.

VINCE- Now you see why you were a 160 lb. "Mr. Canada"...

No Bullshit,
I think you looked way way better smaller with a tiny waist then now.  To me you looked to be better conditoned back then too....I wish you wouldn`t have tried anything exotic and kept the look that you had in the 80s.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on August 11, 2006, 10:30:12 AM
207 was about as low as we wen't...

Here's a sample of my last week:

Meal 1- 15 eggwhites, 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 3- 12 oz. chicken, 8 oz. potatoes

Meal 4- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 5- 12 oz. steak, 5 oz. potatoes

Meal 6- protein shake (1c. eggwhites/ protein powder
           small salad w/ balsalmic

Do you keep the same type of diet appraoching a show and just reduce carb and fat intake each week or so?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:32:04 AM
Also , this goes to show you just how EASY it is to diet for a show....I love how these bodybuilders act like eating like this for 12 weeks is SOOOOOOOOOOOO hard....Its about the easiest damn thing anyone can EVER do.

I find that FACT VERY humorous.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:33:11 AM
Do you keep the same type of diet appraoching a show and just reduce carb and fat intake each week or so?

I have no idea why people change and reduce shit either....The body really won`t adapt to a caloric defecit. 
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 10:33:21 AM
No Bullshit,
I think you looked way way better smaller with a tiny waist then now.  To me you looked to be better conditoned back then too....I wish you wouldn`t have tried anything exotic and kept the look that you had in the 80s.

I've never tried "anything exotic", or "pushed the envelope" for tht matter...

BTW, how would YOU know how "easy" it is? It's not just the diet (which gets progressively harder and stricter), combine that with workouts twice a day, cardio twice a day (up to 2 hours+) and all the regular duties of life (kids, work, etc.)

Walk a mile in my shoes, Adonis....until then STFU.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: what. on August 11, 2006, 10:35:47 AM
Also , this goes to show you just how EASY it is to diet for a show....I love how these bodybuilders act like eating like this for 12 weeks is SOOOOOOOOOOOO hard....Its about the easiest damn thing anyone can EVER do.

I find that FACT VERY humorous.

Have you ever tried South Beach Diet Pizza?  It tastes fucking great, has 10 grams of fiber, 31 grams of protein, 310 calories. 
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on August 11, 2006, 10:35:56 AM
I have no idea why people change and reduce shit either....The body really won`t adapt to a caloric defecit. 

I respect the fact that your into Ironage training and dieting, but you have much to learn!
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:36:01 AM
I've never tried "anything exotic", or "pushed the envelope" for tht matter...

Well whats the reason that your waist size increased?

We know you don`t do ass to floor squats or deadlifts.(That Does not Increase size anyway,even though people like to use that as an excuse)

So what was it?

Frank Zane kept a tight waist in his 40s, so did Ed Corney and countless others.

Why did yours increase if it weren`t for supplementation?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:36:44 AM
Have you ever tried South Beach Diet Pizza?  It tastes fucking great, has 10 grams of fiber, 31 grams of protein, 310 calories. 

Yup. I reccommended those over a year ago. hahahahah Perfect diet food.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 10:38:53 AM
hers a few shots...does it look like I have a wide waist? I also put on muscle size over the course of 20 years...everything gets bigger.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:39:26 AM
I've never tried "anything exotic", or "pushed the envelope" for tht matter...

BTW, how would YOU know how "easy" it is? It's not just the diet (which gets progressively harder and stricter), combine that with workouts twice a day, cardio twice a day (up to 2 hours+) and all the regular duties of life (kids, work, etc.)

Walk a mile in my shoes, Adonis....until then STFU.

Chick,
I work 40 hours a week and go to school.
I don`t do cardio because my diet is perfect.  I don`t do twice a day workout sessions because thats just stupid.

I am 6-8 percent bodyfat right now down from who knows what! lolol You guys ALL tend to become neurotic and make it harder than it is.  
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 10:39:56 AM
USA
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:41:37 AM
hers a few shots...does it look like I have a wide waist? I also put on muscle size over the course of 20 years...everything gets bigger.

Compare that with this.

Clearly your waist has increase by a good deal of inches.

You look best here.

(http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=bob+cicherillo&g=M)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: gmflex on August 11, 2006, 10:41:51 AM
props to Chick for answering Questions... ;)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:42:30 AM
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?s=bob+cicherillo&g=M

1987 October Vol 24, Num 10 Muscular Development 
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on August 11, 2006, 10:42:44 AM
props to Chick for answering Questions... ;)

Yep!
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: G o a t b o y on August 11, 2006, 10:45:31 AM
with no bulk in your diet, did you supplement with fiber for regularity and to reduce any bloating? white rice or brown? why no real vagetables like broccoli, cauliflower, zuccini or whatnot?

Exactly.

From a health standpoint, his diet sucks.

Lots of red meat, and practically no fiber or fruits and vegetables. Plus, no healthy fats (but tons of saturated fats).

It may be an effective diet for a roided-up bodybuilder (although I agree with Vince B that protein requirements for bodybuilders are way overstated, and thus a waste), but I wouldn't be surprised if he keels over from a heart attack or ends up with diabetes or cancer before long.

I'm not saying this to be a prick, but to point out that pro bodybuilders' diets are usually anything but healthy, regardless of what their bf% might be.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Chick on August 11, 2006, 10:46:58 AM
Yeah, exactly...in 1987 (19 years ago) I was 211 lbs. in that pic...the two I posted are from 2000, and 2005...I'm sure my waist is slightly bigger, but I'm also 248 lbs.

It's all relative
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: eastcoastbbman on August 11, 2006, 10:50:05 AM
Amazing what bodybuilders do. Where is the research that supports ingesting that much protein? In my opinion that diet is absurd and a waste of resources. The extra protein will be converted into energy because the body cannot use that much protein in a day. I guess I know nothing and am out of date. Nothing has changed with bodybuilders and most are totally unscientific about nutrition and training.


quite the contrary vince. the diet is actually pretty sound and very appropriate given what the individual is trying to achieve and his internal environment. i agree that perhaps not all of that protein will be used, but most of it will, and we'd rather be a little over than under when trying to create an anabolic situation in our bodies. its ok if some of that protein is used for energy purposes (gluconeogenesis). why does that seem to upset you? the rest will either be used to repair the massive amounts of micro-tears that progressive resistence exercise causes...or passed into the toilet. not to mention the tons of cardio we do that also increases the bodies need for quality protein. there is no set number of grams of protein that "the body" can absorb at each meal. that number varies per person for a hundred different reasons.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 10:51:39 AM
Yeah, exactly...in 1987 (19 years ago) I was 211 lbs. in that pic...the two I posted are from 2000, and 2005...I'm sure my waist is slightly bigger, but I'm also 248 lbs.

It's all relative

Well I am biased towards the Ironage look for sure.

Anything over 225 lbs is pushing it unless over 6 feet tall.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: swilkins1984 on August 11, 2006, 10:55:15 AM
Crystal lite is fine...don't drink much diet cola anyway.

Veggies are fine, I just don't eat them very much on a diet, exceptfor steamed broccoli....too much volume.

I remember Melvin saying on a BFTO DVD that too much Crystal Lite is rough on the stomach walls because of the aspartame.  I would just drink extra water to counter act this because I would go crazy without CL  :)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: leycus 101 on August 11, 2006, 11:28:38 AM
I've never tried "anything exotic", or "pushed the envelope" for tht matter...

BTW, how would YOU know how "easy" it is? It's not just the diet (which gets progressively harder and stricter), combine that with workouts twice a day, cardio twice a day (up to 2 hours+) and all the regular duties of life (kids, work, etc.)

Walk a mile in my shoes, Adonis....until then STFU.




Then again try working 8-12 hours a day being on the phone talking to morons
that want to basically kill u lol... fun huh :P
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on August 11, 2006, 12:01:15 PM
I am 6-8 percent bodyfat right now down from who knows what!

If you actually believe you're at 6% bodyfat right now then you're a delusional moron. And if you're lying (more believable) that's just another bullschit story to add to the already overflowing TA bullschit list.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 12:02:43 PM
If you actually believe you're at 6% bodyfat right now then you're a delusional moron. And if you're lying (more believable) that's just another bullschit story to add to the already overflowing TA bullschit list.

You don`t have veins in your legs or a clear six pack if you are over 10 percent.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: MAXX on August 11, 2006, 12:19:28 PM
Bob i have a question. Is it hard not to get a massive boner on a photoshoot like this?

(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/mmi/mmi280.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: HERACLES on August 11, 2006, 12:31:50 PM
Yeah, exactly...in 1987 (19 years ago) I was 211 lbs. in that pic...the two I posted are from 2000, and 2005...I'm sure my waist is slightly bigger, but I'm also 248 lbs.

It's all relative

Yup.

TA he  doesnt have a big waist at all, why do you think this? Especially at 250, he looks tight man!  8)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Miss Demeanor on August 11, 2006, 12:33:37 PM
If you actually believe you're at 6% bodyfat right now then you're a delusional moron. And if you're lying (more believable) that's just another bullschit story to add to the already overflowing TA bullschit list.

I don't think he's hit 6% yet, either, but 8 is probably about right from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 12:34:14 PM
Yup.

TA he  doesnt have a big waist at all, why do you think this? Especially at 250, he looks tight man!  8)

His waist was smaller at 211.  I am just not a fan of bigger is better.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: HERACLES on August 11, 2006, 12:36:33 PM
His waist was smaller at 211.  I am just not a fan of bigger is better.

Yeah, like he said though its all relative- his waist doesnt look like some pros where they look like a Boa snake that just at a goat or something.. His waist is tiny, and he has no muscle gut.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on August 11, 2006, 12:38:04 PM
I don't think he's hit 6% yet, either, but 8 is probably about right from what I've seen.

More than likely between 9-10%, the 6% claim was a wild overstatement.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 12:41:31 PM
More than likely between 9-10%, the 6% claim was a wild overstatement.

Its not like I won`t get below 6. hahahah
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Joey Tito on August 11, 2006, 12:58:33 PM
His waist was smaller at 211.  I am just not a fan of bigger is better.

Some food for thought: we tend to revile that which we can never become.  Jealousy--pure, unadulterated jealousy--will eat you alive, man.  Just be careful.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Stavios on August 11, 2006, 01:21:18 PM
you can hate adonis all you want, he clearly knows what works for him cause he got pretty shredded in the past.

but I still call bullshit on the waist size claim of "below 30"  ;)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 01:24:46 PM
you can hate adonis all you want, he clearly knows what works for him cause he got pretty shredded in the past.

but I still call bullshit on the waist size claim of "below 30"  ;)

Ill tape it with a pic when I am at my leanest.

Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Stavios on August 11, 2006, 01:28:02 PM
Ill tape it with a pic when I am at my leanest.



Cool I would appreciate that

strange cause my waist is really similar to yours and onstage I don't think my waist was below 31-32 inches
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 11, 2006, 01:32:11 PM
It's too easy.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Bast000 on August 11, 2006, 01:32:41 PM
So his low carb day is 1g carbs per pound.  That isn't very low at all. I don't know if that would work so well naturally.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Stavios on August 11, 2006, 01:39:11 PM
So his low carb day is 1g carbs per pound.  That isn't very low at all. I don't know if that would work so well naturally.

No way

keep in mind that getting ripped with GH is way way way easier

plus you won't lose muscle mass
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 11, 2006, 01:40:39 PM
No way

keep in mind that getting ripped with GH is way way way easier

plus you won't lose muscle mass

hitting home runs is easier with a corked bat. Anymore helpful "tips" ::)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Stavios on August 11, 2006, 01:44:17 PM
hitting home runs is easier with a corked bat. Anymore helpful "tips" ::)

haha yeah like you know how to get ripped  ::)

I was telling him why bob's carb were so high that's it
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Bast000 on August 11, 2006, 01:49:56 PM
No way

keep in mind that getting ripped with GH is way way way easier

plus you won't lose muscle mass

Yea some pros in the 70s were said to have been on 60g carbs a day.   Chick is getting 250g. lol
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 11, 2006, 01:51:56 PM
haha yeah like you know how to get ripped  ::)

I was telling him why bob's carb were so high that's it

you're the expert. Tell me what kind of drugs to take. That seems to be your answer
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Bast000 on August 11, 2006, 01:58:32 PM
I've never tried "anything exotic", or "pushed the envelope" for tht matter...

BTW, how would YOU know how "easy" it is? It's not just the diet (which gets progressively harder and stricter), combine that with workouts twice a day, cardio twice a day (up to 2 hours+) and all the regular duties of life (kids, work, etc.)

Walk a mile in my shoes, Adonis....until then STFU.

You're getting 1g carb per pound.  That's easy as hell.    I've gotten 0.5g per lb on average during my diet.

And you don't even have kids, or a difficult job.

Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: triple_pickle on August 11, 2006, 05:02:26 PM
Anything over 225 lbs is pushing it unless over 6 feet tall.

if you cannot get to 225 it does not mean anything over 225 is not pleasing.  it's like being unable to achieve a 20-inch arm and claim that arms bigger than 19.5" are unaesthetic....  duh.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: thisiskeith12 on August 11, 2006, 05:09:21 PM
I don't think Bob tried anything exotic. He has been selectively progressive over the years, not one extreme to another. He's done a good job and I think he stays off the juice more so than many other bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 05:09:56 PM
207 was about as low as we wen't...

Here's a sample of my last week:

Meal 1- 15 eggwhites, 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 3- 12 oz. chicken, 8 oz. potatoes

Meal 4- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 5- 12 oz. steak, 5 oz. potatoes

Meal 6- protein shake (1c. eggwhites/ protein powder
           small salad w/ balsalmic

WTF kind of diet is this ???

207g of carbs is a low carb day ???

Also, you have NO good fats in your diet ??? No fish oil, no PB, no olive oil, nuts???


I always thought you were one of the smarter pros when it came to dieting, but this just goes to show how important drugs are....lay off the drugs and then cut...
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Bast000 on August 11, 2006, 05:11:06 PM
also.. why white rice?    ???
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 05:12:52 PM
also.. why white rice?    ???

that's probably his post-workout meal.....he's likely trying to illicit an insulin response with the white rice.....but why? he's already taking 10+ IU of slin PWO ::)
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: youandme on August 11, 2006, 05:12:56 PM
Bob i have a question. Is it hard not to get a massive boner on a photoshoot like this?

(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/mmi/mmi280.jpg)
Nice cover.

I like how lee priest diets, but does not overdo it. Keeps sane

This is the real secret to dieting  ;D

Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Bast000 on August 11, 2006, 05:14:04 PM
that's probably his post-workout meal.....he's likely trying to illicit an insulin response with the white rice.....but why? he's already taking 10+ IU of slin PWO ::)

yea but why after cardio would you want that?
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 05:15:13 PM
yea but why after cardio would you want that?

by workout, I meant weight lifting.

I highly doubt chick does any cardio while dieting....that's what the T3 is for.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Bast000 on August 11, 2006, 05:17:32 PM
by workout, I meant weight lifting.

I highly doubt chick does any cardio while dieting....that's what the T3 is for.

he said he does, and he is having the white rice twice a day.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 05:20:52 PM
he said he does, and he is having the white rice twice a day.

well, I have no idea then. But with all the drugs he's likely using having white rice instead of brown will make no difference anyways.

This just goes to show you how much different it is cutting naturally vs. juiced. Naturally you NEED a good amount of healthy fats to help maintain testosterone levels. Obviously, when injecting synthetic test that need goes away. But, regardless, healthy fats still aid in fat loss. Your body needs to sense dietary fat intake before it will begin to use fat as a fuel.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: sarcasm on August 11, 2006, 05:39:34 PM
you can hate adonis all you want, he clearly knows what works for him cause he got pretty shredded in the past.

but I still call bullshit on the waist size claim of "below 30"  ;)
i would definitely say that Adam's waist is prolly around 29 inches right now, his waist looks tiny when he's at his leanest, in some of the pics where he's like 180-185 it looks like it's 27 inches.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 05:45:12 PM
i would definitely say that Adam's waist is prolly around 29 inches right now, his waist looks tiny when he's at his leanest, in some of the pics where he's like 180-185 it looks like it's 27 inches.

key word being "looks". Every shot I see of him he is doing some weird twisting shit to hide his wide waist. His midsection may be THIN but I do not believe his waist is smaller than 30 inches. Arnold also did this twisting stuff and he had a 34" waist...
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: sarcasm on August 11, 2006, 05:46:49 PM
key word being "looks". Every shot I see of him he is doing some weird twisting shit to hide his wide waist. His midsection may be THIN but I do not believe his waist is smaller than 30 inches. Arnold also did this twisting stuff and he had a 34" waist...
if you can find it check out the pic of him in the gym when he is lean beyond belief and wearing straps training back, he's standing straight on to the camera and his waist looks well below 30.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Vince B on August 11, 2006, 06:27:16 PM
The protein requirement for building muscle is not something that is determined on a discussion board but in the lab. I doubt the scientists are all that interested in finding out but the research I have read indicates that you don't need more than 1 gram per pound of bodyweight and even that is probably too much. I well remember guys saying they took vitamins and other supplements just to be sure they got enough. Some lunatics were drinking over a dozen eggs a day and ingesting dried liver tablets. They never did amount to anything. I prefer to get my nutrition information from textbooks written for graduate nutrition courses and not from silly bodybuilding magazines.

Bob looks huge in those photos but like many other guys since Dorian he has that 'look' that is strange. I know you huge guys look great in person but for some reason you don't photograph well. I like the way Dexter looks in photos but he is one of the few who looks hard. Most of the rest have separation but don't look hard. When you see them relaxed they seem blocky. This sport sure has deteriorated. The guys are getting bigger, especially in the legs but are acquiring a look that just isn't aesthetic. The price has become way too high.  
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 06:31:25 PM
The protein requirement for building muscle is not something that is determined on a discussion board but in the lab. I doubt the scientists are all that interested in finding out but the research I have read indicates that you don't need more than 1 gram per pound of bodyweight and even that is probably too much. I well remember guys saying they took vitamins and other supplements just to be sure they got enough. Some lunatics were drinking over a dozen eggs a day and ingesting dried liver tablets. They never did amount to anything. I prefer to get my nutrition information from textbooks written for graduate nutrition courses and not from silly bodybuilding magazines.

Bob looks huge in those photos but like many other guys since Dorian he has that 'look' that is strange. I know you huge guys look great in person but for some reason you don't photograph well. I like the way Dexter looks in photos but he is one of the few who looks hard. Most of the rest have separation but don't look hard. When you see them relaxed they seem blocky. This sport sure has deteriorated. The guys are getting bigger, especially in the legs but are acquiring a look that just isn't aesthetic. The price has become way too high.  

The drugs increase protein synthesis well beyond any natural level....and if you think they dont need that much protein, well you are wrong. Nasser attritbutes one of the main factors he blew up in the mid 90s to the fact that he upped his daily protein intake to 600g/day.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 06:38:16 PM
The drugs increase protein synthesis well beyond any natural level....and if you think they dont need that much protein, well you are wrong. Nasser attritbutes one of the main factors he blew up in the mid 90s to the fact that he upped his daily protein intake to 600g/day.

Actually Nasser stated time and time again that he would take in around 100 grams of protein or so only.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: davidpaul on August 11, 2006, 06:40:02 PM
Actually Nasser stated time and time again that he would take in around 100 grams of protein or so only.

From what i've read he only upped his protein pre contest, offseason it was as you say only 100 grammes, all this 600grammes bullshit makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2006, 06:40:53 PM
From what i've read he only upped his protein pre contest, offseason it was as you say only 100 grammes, all this 600grammes bullshit makes me laugh.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: sarcasm on August 11, 2006, 06:41:04 PM
Actually Nasser stated time and time again that he would take in around 100 grams of protein or so only.
hahahaha, yes, me and a friend of mine met him at a show and asked him about the outrageous amounts of protein and he said , "that's all bullshit, i've really got a fairly slow meatbolism and i don't eat very much at all, maybe 100-150 grams of protein per day"
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 06:42:48 PM
hahahaha, yes, me and a friend of mine met him at a show and asked him about the outrageous amounts of protein and he said , "that's all bullshit, i've really got a fairly slow meatbolism and i don't eat very much at all, maybe 100-150 grams of protein per day"

sounds like bullshit. He was 285lbs a few weeks before the O in 96. Do you honestly think he got to 285lbs eating hardly anything? :-\
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: sarcasm on August 11, 2006, 06:45:22 PM
sounds like bullshit. He was 285lbs a few weeks before the O in 96. Do you honestly think he got to 285lbs eating hardly anything? :-\
i'm just telling you what the man told us, now i have no way of knowing if he was just joking around but he looked totally serious when he said it, it was in the summer of 2000 at an NPC event, he said that dieting is torture for him because since he doesn't eat much off season he has to eat even less pre contest.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: !@#$% on August 11, 2006, 07:13:15 PM
207 was about as low as we wen't...

Here's a sample of my last week:

Meal 1- 15 eggwhites, 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 3- 12 oz. chicken, 8 oz. potatoes

Meal 4- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 5- 12 oz. steak, 5 oz. potatoes

Meal 6- protein shake (1c. eggwhites/ protein powder
           small salad w/ balsalmic

Isn't white rice highly glycemic? Why do you go with white rice and not brown? Potatos are fairly glycemic as well.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Adam Empire on August 11, 2006, 07:21:30 PM
Have you ever tried South Beach Diet Pizza?  It tastes fucking great, has 10 grams of fiber, 31 grams of protein, 310 calories. 

Quite tasty - agreed.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Adam Empire on August 11, 2006, 07:25:41 PM
No way

keep in mind that getting ripped with GH is way way way easier

plus you won't lose muscle mass

Don't forget, Clen, etc...
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Adam Empire on August 11, 2006, 07:29:45 PM
The drugs increase protein synthesis well beyond any natural level....and if you think they dont need that much protein, well you are wrong. Nasser attritbutes one of the main factors he blew up in the mid 90s to the fact that he upped his daily protein intake to 600g/day.

That's about the same time HGH started...
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Kegdrainer on August 11, 2006, 07:37:49 PM
207 was about as low as we wen't...

Here's a sample of my last week:

Meal 1- 15 eggwhites, 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 3- 12 oz. chicken, 8 oz. potatoes

Meal 4- 12 oz. steak, 1 cup white rice

Meal 5- 12 oz. steak, 5 oz. potatoes

Meal 6- protein shake (1c. eggwhites/ protein powder
           small salad w/ balsalmic

i used to eat this much red meat, got gout at age 25
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 07:40:01 PM
That's about the same time HGH started...

It may seen dumb to think that Nasser never used GH...but for his size, he had no gut!
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Mr. Michael Moore on August 11, 2006, 08:00:33 PM
Nasser is notorious for bullshiting at expos and such when fans aproach him with questions. He gets off this way....it's his favor past time, to get a laugh out of fans that aproach him with questions reagarding some of his legendary quotes from the magazines.

Here in Brazil, he has been here over 2 times. The first one he was a gentleman. The second one you would not recognize him.......complete asshole. In another city, here, on our shores, he was very rude to a TV reporter. Now I give him some of the reasons why being an ass to that reporter, cuz she made that typical stereotype meat heads questions that were made famous to every bodybuilder, at least a dozens times in a month. "Do you take steroids" was the breaking point...he cursed and just left that girl speaking with the air, lol !!!

Not to mention the snorting :-X........lots of it......that is another issue I will just leave it at that.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: pobrecito on August 11, 2006, 08:05:06 PM
Nasser is notorious for bullshiting at expos and such when fans aproach him with questions. He gets off this way....it's his favor past time, to get a laugh out of fans that aproach him with questions reagarding some of his legendary quotes from the magazines.

Here in Brazil, he has been here over 2 times. The first one he was a gentleman. The second one you would not recognize him.......complete asshole. In another city, here, on our shores, he was very rude to a TV reporter. Now I give him some of the reasons why being an ass to that reporter, cuz she made that typical stereotype meat heads questions that were made famous to every bodybuilder, at least a dozens times in a month. "Do you take steroids" was the breaking point...he cursed and just left that girl speaking with the air, lol !!!

Not to mention the snorting :-X........lots of it......that is another issue I will just leave it at that.

exactly, to think he was only taking in 100g of protein a day is absurd. You KNOW he was eating like a monster to get that big. Just the amount of chicken these pros eat is rediculous. I recall flex saying he ate over 800g of protein/day :o
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: Mr. Michael Moore on August 11, 2006, 08:16:57 PM
Sorry, man, but if Flex told that it was another bullshit. This sons of a bitches of pros get off laughing at people. They MAKE THIS BULLSHIT lies so anyone thinks they are like Gods, or mutants, if you will.

Get this:

Dorian Yates (the best, period!) reportedly was featured as saying his daily protein intake was on average 350 grams. Now that's a very reasonable amount, and highly believable. Nothing small, nothing huge. At the time, he jumped onstage @ 260 pounds. Now could you tell me how in the hell Flex Wheeler, notorious for his 'rigorous' contest regimen practices, could need a higher intake of protein, weighing FAR LESS than Dorian himself??


I've read a while back an interview with Jammo Nezzar, in a issue of MUSCLEMAG, that how poor were Flex's eating habits. At the time, Flex was in Birmingham doing a seminar, and  went to Dorian's place just to hang (for those that don't know, Jammo and Dorian are  best- buddies). They spent 3  days together, Dorian , Flex, and Jammo. Jammo said that, while Dorian kept eating chicken and rice 6 times in a day, Flex could not stomach half of that, and in fact ordered pizza after ízza, instead.

Talk about 'monstruous discipline'.......that's when you 'need' all the Clen, T3 and GH in the world, come contest time.
Title: Re: Hey Bob Chick.... low carb day
Post by: airrick on August 11, 2006, 08:18:35 PM
207 g of carbs for bob is fine, the guy is way over 200lbs!  he has the 2:1 ratio of protein to carbs so lay off cuz it definitely works for him and it may not work for you.

He has experimented wid dieting for quite some time in his bb'ing career and obviously his diet will work for his body!

Im sure if you post YOUR diet, you will get some of us askin WTF?