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VINCE WORE WHITE POSING TRUNKS.
HE IS TO GET 2ND PLACE.
NOT A VISIBLE CUT ON HIM FROM WHAT I AM TOLD.
HIS CONDITIONING LOOKED BETTER IN 2004 FROM WHAT I AM TOLD.
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I can't wait for these pics...
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VINCE WORE WHITE POSING TRUNKS.
HE IS TO GET 2ND PLACE.
NOT A VISIBLE CUT ON HIM FROM WHAT I AM TOLD.
HIS CONDITIONING LOOKED BETTER IN 2004 FROM WHAT I AM TOLD.
shut up :o
how can he look worst than in 2004 !
how can he get second ?
is he the only guy in the line-up ?
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oh my god...get big is going to have a field day today
BEST DAY EVER...time for the photoshops to begin
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shut up :o
how can he look worst than in 2004 !
how can he can second ?
is he the only guy in the line-up ?
No- there is 2 in the line-up- so technically vince is in last place :'(
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Wrong, my conditioning was better. Except in comparision to the other competitor, I looked like a pile of shit and I obviously still have a lot to learn and years of hard training to do. I'll be putting up pictures tomorrow. In the meantime, I'll be nursing my wounds from the beating I got, do my night routine and chill out at the club
Could have been worse though.... :P
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and you wore a white trunks to make things worst
oh brother
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pics...tomorrow >:( ...i demand pics ASAP
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pics...tomorrow >:( ...i demand pics ASAP
settle down dude. You're getting a little worked up about an oiled black man don't you think?
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We HAVE to have pics of this! Where the fucck are our spies at the Mountaineer? Post the shit, dammit.
Vince G, CSN MFT strikes again! ;D
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how can he can second ?
is he the only guy in the line-up ?
lmfao. Second place when he is the only competitor!!! Now that would send him a message finally ;D
Then again it's Vince, so maybe not ??? :(
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settle down dude. You're getting a little worked up about an oiled black man don't you think?
some of us want a new avator ;)
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We HAVE to have pics of this! Where the fucck are our spies at the Mountaineer? Post the shit, dammit.
Vince G, CSN MFT strikes again! ;D
Yes ! where is the dude who said he would take pics
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Could have been worse though.... :P
How? You finished 2nd out of 2 people.
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settle down dude. You're getting a little worked up about an oiled black man don't you think?
this from a man who can't go a day without posting how wonderful TA is and how he loves to look at his TA motivational poster.
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HIS CONDITIONING LOOKED BETTER IN 2004 FROM WHAT I AM TOLD.
Seriously Vince, what's happening?
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settle down dude. You're getting a little worked up about an oiled black man don't you think?
dude are you kidding me...the majority of getbig have been waiting for this day since he announced he was competing agian.
i still dont get why he didnt do the mr getbig if his competition was the same day.
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so,......he was 2nd in a 2 man show?
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How? You finished 2nd out of 2 people.
haaa!!! I've always wanted to do this here......
MONSTER REALITY CHECK! :P
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so,......he was 2nd in a 2 man show?
The judges wanted to give him 3rd.
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hahahaha, this is a day that will live in infamy.
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hahahaha, this is a day that will live in infamy.
Only if someone posts pics.
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what a complete piece of shit you are Vince. You run your fucking mouth..you had the balls to make a smart ass remark to me about the circumstances surrounding my son and then you go and lay an egg like this. You are the lowest level of human bieng there is. At least a guy like sarcasm knows he's an internet guy and doesn't make a fool out of himself like you do. You're an emabbasement to this board to MM and to BB in general. You got everything you deserved...how could you look worse??? and after talking all that shit? You SUCK plain and simple. 2nd out of 2 people,.....fucking pathetic and you have the balls to talk back to Vince and Lee Priest??? you are the most delussional person on the boards. AT least vince Basile won a show for god sakes, who cares if it was 36 years ago, he beat at least one guy in a competition that's more than you can say. You're a pile of dog shit.
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what a complete piece of shit you are Vince. You run your fucking mouth..you had the balls to make a smart ass remark to me about the circumstances surrounding my son and then you go and lay an egg like this. You are the lowest level of human bieng there is. At least a guy like sarcasm knows he's an internet guy and doesn't make a fool out of himself like you do. You're an emabbasement to this board to MM and to BB in general. You got everything you deserved...how could you look worse??? and after talking all that shit? You SUCK plain and simple. 2nd out of 2 people,.....fucking pathetic and you have the balls to talk back to Vince and Lee Priest??? you are the most delussional person on the boards. AT least vince Basile won a show for god sakes, who cares if it was 36 years ago, he beat at least one guy in a competition that's more than you can say. You're a pile of dog shit.
You're not even disturbing my lunch with that little rant, sunshine.
I don't really think I could have done much to beat him even if I was ripped to shreds. Oh well, I'll collect my 2nd place trophy tonight and train harder for the next show..... ;D
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You're not even disturbing my lunch with that little rant, sunshine.
I don't really think I could have done much to beat him even if I was ripped to shreds. Oh well, I'll collect my 2nd place trophy tonight and train harder for the next show..... ;D
When are you posting pics?
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I cant wait to see if Vince put his money where his mouf is :)
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Hahahahahahaha...vince is happy about a 2nd place trophy in a two man show!
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When are you posting pics?
Don't know at this time. Problably Monday before I go on vacation.
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You're not even disturbing my lunch with that little rant, sunshine.
I don't really think I could have done much to beat him even if I was ripped to shreds. Oh well, I'll collect my 2nd place trophy tonight and train harder for the next show..... ;D
hahaha you remind me of that guy in "million dollar baby" who is delusional about his skill as a boxer
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You're not even disturbing my lunch with that little rant, sunshine.
I don't really think I could have done much to beat him even if I was ripped to shreds. Oh well, I'll collect my 2nd place trophy tonight and train harder for the next show..... ;D
You are so delusional it's not funny! You won't even win a bodybuilding show in the mental ward that you will be eventually committed to
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Don't know at this time. Problably Monday before I go on vacation.
C'mon... right now you've got a laptop, an internet connection, and digital pics... why not upload some now?
.. or do you have to take them to the "One-Year Photo" place first? ::)
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Vince, pass em my way and I'll have you a nice flash pic gallery up in ten minutes :)
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Hahahahahahaha...vince is happy about a 2nd place trophy in a two man show!
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Hahahahahahaha...vince is happy about a 2nd place trophy in a two man show!
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Well, I'm not happy that I took 2nd. But I am glad that I improved on my previous outing in a number of areas and I'll continue to move in the right direction.
Like I said, I didn't have a chance anyway against him so I can't be mad over that. I congratulated him on his victory and I'm sure he'll win the overall.
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Like I said, I didn't have a chance anyway against him so I can't be mad over that. I congratulated him on his victory and I'm sure he'll win the overall.
So if he were to not show up for the night show, you'd win your class?
How bad do you want this, Vince? You wanna win the class, jsut get creative ;)
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Vince...you told me NUMEROUS times that you have SYNTHETEK NUTRITION in your corner and you'll be suprising alot of people. What happened? You saying SYNTHETEK NUTRITION didn't "work"?
You are the most horrible 'competitor' to ever step on stage...your problem is you don't diet...you eat food like a typical 'you know what' which probably consists of fried chicken, fried greasy foods, sugar filled koolaid and greens and you probably hardly even train and when you do it's half ass.
Go fk yourself, Vince!
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Vince...you told me NUMEROUS times that you have SYNTHETEK NUTRITION in your corner and you'll be suprising alot of people. What happened? You saying SYNTHETEK NUTRITION didn't "work"?
You are the most horrible 'competitor' to ever step on stage...your problem is you don't diet...you eat food like a typical 'you know what' which probably consists of fried chicken, fried greasy foods, sugar filled koolaid and greens and you probably hardly even train and when you do it's half ass.
Go fk yourself, Vince!
you also forgot the fact that Vince doesn't lift weights either.
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dayum
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So if he were to not show up for the night show, you'd win your class?
How bad do you want this, Vince? You wanna win the class, jsut get creative ;)
chuckle.....I would problably hand it back. He was the better man that day. Like I said, he really should have been in the open
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Vince...you told me NUMEROUS times that you have SYNTHETEK NUTRITION in your corner and you'll be suprising alot of people. What happened? You saying SYNTHETEK NUTRITION didn't "work"?
You are the most horrible 'competitor' to ever step on stage...your problem is you don't diet...you eat food like a typical 'you know what' which probably consists of fried chicken, fried greasy foods, sugar filled koolaid and greens and you probably hardly even train and when you do it's half ass.
Go fk yourself, Vince!
Decided that I was going to do the show drug-free and didn't use any Synthetek products nor any steroids. And I had some good stuff, too.
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What happened to doing the Open class Vince? I hate I didn't get to hang out and chat w/ya, in fact, we almost left during intermission b/c I was under the impression you were doing the Open so I almost didn't stay to see the Juniors, Novice and Women's Figure One Piece round...I'm so glad I did though. Now I know for sure you're not a gimmick account and you actually did show up and compete in white posing trunks, as promised! Props for competing, but dude, seriously, can i please help you prep for your next outing if you're dead set on competing again??? I was expecting a much leaner version of Vince G!
What gives????
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"a better man that day". Yeam okay Vince...ANY man is a better man THAT day compared to you.
Why don't you try to lift weights and eat clean foods? Instead of being lazy and skipping the gym and shoving koolaid, friedchicken and fried rib tips and watermelon down your throat.
Damn, sarcasm...you know why I cant fkn stand 'them', right?
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chuckle.....I would problably hand it back. He was the better man that day. Like I said, he really should have been in the open
Hey, when you're bringing home fitness girls, do you wanna show them a 2nd place trphym, or a FIRST place trophy? We're talking the difference between a quick handjob and a menage-a-quad, ya hearrrrrd?
So he spends a few hours in the trunk of your Honda. The chloroform will keep him sleeping most of the time anyway. And he can win his own damn trohpy next week.
Now get to work, young hustler. Take what is yours.
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Vince when you post the pictures youve GOT to post the comparison pictures of you and the other guy, hahaha if this guys as good as you say he is it will be so funny seeing you stood next to him in your WHITE posing trunks looking completely out of place and getting totally owned!!
hahahaha
hahahahahaha!!! this is going to be fvcking classic ;D ;D ;D ;D
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at least he is bringing home some fitness chicks :o
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You're not even disturbing my lunch with that little rant, sunshine.
I don't really think I could have done much to beat him even if I was ripped to shreds. Oh well, I'll collect my 2nd place trophy tonight and train harder for the next show..... ;D
yeah, sure thats why you stopped to respond to it sunshine. hahhahahhahahahahah..you're so phoney. If I was you I'd give up training alltogether, sunshine.
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you also forgot the fact that Vince doesn't lift weights either.
smartest thing you've ever pointed out on this site...oh the truth.
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yeah, sure thats why you stopped to respond to it sunshine. hahhahahhahahahahah..you're so phoney. If I was you I'd give up training alltogether, sunshine.
he needs to start training before he can give it up. ;D ;D ;D
2nd out of 2 people LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.Another brilliant chapter in the Vince Goodrum clusterfvck story. ;D ;D ;D
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What happened to doing the Open class Vince? I hate I didn't get to hang out and chat w/ya, in fact, we almost left during intermission b/c I was under the impression you were doing the Open so I almost didn't stay to see the Juniors, Novice and Women's Figure One Piece round...I'm so glad I did though. Now I know for sure you're not a gimmick account and you actually did show up and compete in white posing trunks, as promised! Props for competing, but dude, seriously, can i please help you prep for your next outing if you're dead set on competing again??? I was expecting a much leaner version of Vince G!
What gives????
Wood! Where the hell are the pics? Wasn't it your job to get us some Vince G competition pics?
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NOT A VISIBLE CUT ON HIM FROM WHAT I AM TOLD.
miracles don't happen anymore
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he needs to start training before he can give it up. ;D ;D ;D
2nd out of 2 people LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.Another brilliant chapter in the Vince Goodrum clusterfvck story. ;D ;D ;D
yeah, pick up a weight next time sunshine.....
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The funniest thing is, Adonis might actually place lower in his contest today than Vince!
Monster irony
Hahahahahaahahahahah
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What happened to doing the Open class Vince? I hate I didn't get to hang out and chat w/ya, in fact, we almost left during intermission b/c I was under the impression you were doing the Open so I almost didn't stay to see the Juniors, Novice and Women's Figure One Piece round...I'm so glad I did though. Now I know for sure you're not a gimmick account and you actually did show up and compete in white posing trunks, as promised! Props for competing, but dude, seriously, can i please help you prep for your next outing if you're dead set on competing again??? I was expecting a much leaner version of Vince G!
What gives????
Yes, I'll definitely get help next time around from Dr Joe or someone who specializes in natural bodybuilding. I trained twice a day 6 days a week for 8 weeks for this show, practiced posing, and dieted pretty hard. However, looking good is one thing but a person who looks great onstage will make you look like crap.
In the meantime, I'll enjoy the time off, get patched up and keep training until next time
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2nd out of 2 people LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Didn't Arvilla take 3rd out of 3 people in his contest?
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Yes, I'll definitely get help next time around from Dr Joe or someone who specializes in natural bodybuilding. I trained twice a day 6 days a week for 8 weeks for this show, practiced posing, and dieted pretty hard. However, looking good is one thing but a person who looks great onstage will make you look like crap.
In the meantime, I'll enjoy the time off, get patched up and keep training until next time
Vince you have no excuse.
Seriously. I could help you.
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Vince you have no excuse.
Seriously. I could help you.
Uh, no you can't. Your physique in front of a camera are no proper comparison to getting onstage at a bodybuilding show. You have no earthly idea in the difficulty of doing a bodybuilding show nor have you ever done it before. If you were even in the show, you would have taken 3rd to me. You'll see the pictures later and see just how wrong you are about me. In fact, you are not even in my league
Stavios, wood, Rhino....I could accept advice from them as they have been but not from someone who's never been onstage where you are judged for all that you are worth. Its a lot different out in the open than in the comforts of home where you can choose the shots you wish to put up
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Uh, no you can't. Your physique in front of a camera are no proper comparison to getting onstage at a bodybuilding show. You have no earthly idea in the difficulty of doing a bodybuilding show nor have you ever done it before. If you were even in the show, you would have taken 3rd to me. You'll see the pictures later and see just how wrong you are about me. In fact, you are not even in my league
Stavios, wood, Rhino....I could accept advice from them as they have been but not from someone who's never been onstage where you are judged for all that you are worth. Its a lot different out in the open than in the comforts of home where you can choose the shots you wish to put up
Good effort Melvin, you got up there and competed. Sure you might have got your ass handed back to you, but you went through with it.
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Uh, no you can't. Your physique in front of a camera are no proper comparison to getting onstage at a bodybuilding show. You have no earthly idea in the difficulty of doing a bodybuilding show nor have you ever done it before. If you were even in the show, you would have taken 3rd to me. You'll see the pictures later and see just how wrong you are about me. In fact, you are not even in my league
Stavios, wood, Rhino....I could accept advice from them as they have been but not from someone who's never been onstage where you are judged for all that you are worth. Its a lot different out in the open than in the comforts of home where you can choose the shots you wish to put up
Are you fucking serious....Enter your pics in the MR GETBIG!
We will ALL ACCEPT THEM....I PROMISE.
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vince 6 days week no steroids you are seriously overtraining your muscles will/have shrank lowering your metabolisim
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Wood! Where the hell are the pics? Wasn't it your job to get us some Vince G competition pics?
sorry dudes, i dropped my digital camera in the sand on my last trip to the beach :-\
i was helping the wifey get the house ready for a baby shower for one of her co-workers yesterday so i didn't get time to take it for repairs.
Don't worry, the pics will be on the NPC site soon enough...
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sorry dudes, i dropped my digital camera in the sand on my last trip to the beach :-\
i was helping the wifey get the house ready for a baby shower for one of her co-workers yesterday so i didn't get time to take it for repairs.
Don't worry, the pics will be on the NPC site soon enough...
weak
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you would have taken 3rd to me.
ummm...no.
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Are you fucking serious....Enter your pics in the MR GETBIG!
We will ALL ACCEPT THEM....I PROMISE.
yea I vote to let Vince compete in getbig, its not too late!!!!
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Glad to see you competed Vince.
Post the pics when you can.
Have someone help you with the diet next time.
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we could use a nice guest poser!
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weak
sue me ;D
going to see Vince compete wasn't my only motivation for going to watch this show, i'm still debating on whether or not i'm going to compete this year or not...
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If you were even in the show, you would have taken 3rd to me. You'll see the pictures later and see just how wrong you are about me. In fact, you are not even in my league
this has got to be a joke right? in fact who am i kidding i should know by now just how crazy you are.
Youve got to admit TA is a much better bodybuilder than you are whether hes been on stage or not.
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Are you fucking serious....Enter your pics in the MR GETBIG!
We will ALL ACCEPT THEM....I PROMISE.
The Mr Getbig should not be accepted as an actual bodybuilding contest. Its about the same as the EAS Body For Life.
Adonis, you are shredded but shredded like a wheat of grass. You're too skinny and this is bodybuilding, not swimming.
Enjoy your autographed bottle of bee pollen.
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this has got to be a joke right? in fact who am i kidding i should know by now just how crazy you are.
Youve got to admit TA is a much better bodybuilder than you are whether hes been on stage or not.
You'll find out Monday as to what I'm referring too. Taking pictures in the mirror isn't the same as getting onstage.
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The Mr Getbig should not be accepted as an actual bodybuilding contest. Its about the same as the EAS Body For Life.
Adonis, you are shredded but shredded like a wheat of grass. You're too skinny and this is bodybuilding, not swimming.
Enjoy your autographed bottle of bee pollen.
Vince dude you dont have ANY muscle whatsoever AND your not shredded, seriously...wise the fvck up man. I should know better but i cant believe you can call anyone skinny, just because your FAT that doesnt make you a big guy, its just fat.
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You'll find out Monday as to what I'm referring too. Taking pictures in the mirror isn't the same as getting onstage.
Why dont you just put them up now if you say you looked so good?
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You're too skinny and this is bodybuilding, not swimming.
Why do you get on stage then? You know conditioning is extremely important and often the most important factor in competitive bodybuilding. Usually the most ripped guy wins.
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Glad to see you competed Vince.
Post the pics when you can.
Have someone help you with the diet and working out next time.
with respect shootfighter, I corrected your post :D
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LOL This guy is real and no gimmick account? Can't wait for the photos! ;D
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Why do you get on stage then? You know conditioning is extremely important and often the most important factor in competitive bodybuilding. Usually the most ripped guy wins.
In the world of Vince Goodrum who knows what wins bodybuilding shows, im sure in his own head he believes he has massive potential and looks good. :-\
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Who the fuck does this guy think he is? He has the most inflated ego due to delusions I've ever seen in my life. How many times does he have to be told that he looks like shit before it reaches his conscious thoughts?
Vince, I think you should do some meditating to treat your mental disorders. Find a relaxing seated upright position in a nice quiet spot of your home where you would be free from any distractions and repeat this mantra over and over again, "My physique equals the shit that is pushed through my asshole. My shit never becomes any prettier and neither do I."
With both time and my treatment methods you will see the light eventually. There's hope for you today, Melvin. It's up to you as to whether or no you want to seek help.
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Who the f**k does this guy think he is? He has the most inflated ego due to delusions I've ever seen in my life. How many times does he have to be told that he looks like shit before it reaches his conscious thoughts?
Vince, I think you should do some meditating to treat your mental disorders. Find a relaxing seated upright position in a nice quiet spot of your home where you would be free from any distractions and repeat this mantra over and over again, "My physique equals the shit that is pushed through my asshole. My shit never becomes any prettier and neither do I."
With both time and my treatment methods you will see the light eventually. There's hope for you today, Melvin. It's up to you as to whether or no you want to seek help.
he sees himself as a work in progress which is cool, as long as he as the means to keep trying to improve eventually he might. who are we to say he won't.
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Well, I'm not happy that I took 2nd. But I am glad that I improved on my previous outing in a number of areas and I'll continue to move in the right direction.
Like I said, I didn't have a chance anyway against him so I can't be mad over that. I congratulated him on his victory and I'm sure he'll win the overall.
Did he know who you are?
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he sees himself as a work in progress which is cool, as long as he as the means to keep trying to improve eventually he might. who are we to say he won't.
He is too old to change. He is set in his ways. If he didn't get a wake up call from looking like a turd 2004 nothing will do it.
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Vince you could have taken 4th in the retard class. Isn't there a special olympics competiton going on in Boone at this time. You shoudl go see if you can take a 2nd over there too. Good job you proved everyone on Getbig right. How was your pizza.
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Hey you proved your new training works. No diet, No lifting = no good. Did you Qualify for the Olympia though
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Hey Vince...I've been on stage plenty of times so will you take some advice from me? here goes...go fk yourself you ugly hairy ball bag mooley! Your physique is the worst ever and you drink too much 'red' koolaid and eat too much greasy fried chicken.
You look like dogshit and always will on stage. You're a joke and you have no talent.
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He is too old to change. He is set in his ways. If he didn't get a wake up call from looking like a turd 2004 nothing will do it.
Too bad the "Magic Stick" thing never worked out... if Vince had had that today, he could have won the overall!
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Hey Vince...I've been on stage plenty of times so will you take some advice from me? here goes...go fk yourself you ugly hairy ball bag mooley! Your physique is the worst ever and you drink too much 'red' koolaid and eat too much greasy fried chicken.
You look like dogshit and always will on stage. You're a joke and you have no talent.
Vince feeds on your Haterade!
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Vince...you told me NUMEROUS times that you have SYNTHETEK NUTRITION in your corner and you'll be suprising alot of people. What happened? You saying SYNTHETEK NUTRITION didn't "work"?
You are the most horrible 'competitor' to ever step on stage...your problem is you don't diet...you eat food like a typical 'you know what' which probably consists of fried chicken, fried greasy foods, sugar filled koolaid and greens and you probably hardly even train and when you do it's half ass.
Go fk yourself, Vince!
and yet us "typical you know what's" dominate bodybuilding(Vince excluded)and a lot of other sports so maybe we've hit on something with that special diet you mentioned.
go suck a dick fuckin racist, you took all the fun out of a perfectly good "Let's bash Vince" thread! >:(
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You see the bottle on the right at Vince's family reunion is called 'RED' flavor.
Let me demonstrate...
"Ay, TAMIKA...TAMIKA...ay...a y TAMIKA, 'what ni--a damn!' Make some mo' KooLaid...I'm thirsty as a mthrfkr up in here...'what kind you want we got blue or RED...' Make some RED...and ay...ay...put alot of sugar in it aight?"
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and yet us "typical you know what's" dominate bodybuilding(Vince excluded)and a lot of other sports so maybe we've hit on something with that special diet you mentioned.
go suck a dick fuckin racist, you took all the fun out of a perfectly good "Let's bash Vince" thread! >:(
Meltdown.
Hahaha...it's easy to make a 'Tobey' metldown and cry!
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hahaha, where are the pics!
this thread is worthless without pics!!
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Well, folks, Goodrum painted himself into the proverbial corner. Question is, how did he take pics of himself when he was competing? I have been around contests for a long time. Novice dudes are usually over-optimistic so that is fine. They always check out who is there number-wise so they have a chance at getting a trophy. He would have smiled to himself when the entries closed and there were only two competitors! A trophy at last for all that toil. He knew that placing would be added to his profile.
So, being is a very tight corner it was a no-win situation for our hero. It never helps that some jerk is way too good in this class but that is what a novice contest is. It is supposed to be for beginners and others who have never placed in a show before. You would think that professional trainers should be disqualified from being a novice. Goodrum got a break. Most guys who enter a novice contest do not enter again unless they are trying to win a trophy. Anyway, it is no concern of ours why Venom Vince enterred the category he did.
You folks should ease up on Goodrum. The likes of him are as rare as hen's teeth in this world. Very few human beings can perform as Melvin does. We can believe stories about Venom Vince Versace being bombarded with soda cans and tomatos while 'warming' up hillbillies before the main event. You see, Vince G will always be a preliminary boy and he will always be a novice. Well, that second place trophy disqualifies himself from competing in that class again. Does anyone on Getbig seriously think he is going to ever win an open trophy let alone a state or national title?
We all know the routine. Lots of hype and boasting followed by mediocre performance and a reality check. Most human beings who get humiliated find another pastime to do. Our Goodrum is no ordinary human being. He obviously has the Anthony Robbins tapes and is a true believer. He imagines himself a great bodybuilder and champion so that is what his dream is. Nothing can stop him if he focusses on this goal. Little omissions and errors cannot impede his destiny. If someone says 'don't wear white posing trunks' he wears them. If a true expert invites him to train at his gym he elects to stay home and toil away on his Pilates machine. Can you not grasp that no one can help or save Goodrum? That is the gift to Getbig and we should all cherish his presence here. We will not see his kind again!
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I honestly was believing that Vince was a gimmick account :o; if he really is deluded enough to show up on stage in worse condition than '04, I'll...
shit, I'm speechless
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I want to spell out what I just said in fewer words. Well, Imagine owning a gym for 35 years. You see it all. The dreamers, wannabes and losers. After a while I can predict who is going to never make it. I have gone up to some of these guys and offered my advice. I tell them to use my knowledge and experience. Nope, they don't accept it. They have that Goodrum knack of thinking THEY are experts, what the heck would some old dude know, anyway! No one can help these guys because the don't listen. The thick-headedness is very common in gyms so we shouldn't be too hard on Vince G, CSN MFT. As long as they keep using their own brains you get more of the same stuff. That is the beauty of Getbig. We get more Goodrum, Adonis, Alex, and they belt each other over the head about who is the best. You gotta love this place.
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If history repeats it will take Goodrum two years to get enough nerve to enter a contest again. Then he will train for 8 weeks and cut up for 4! What can I say?
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Wrong, my conditioning was better. Except in comparision to the other competitor, I looked like a pile of shit and I obviously still have a lot to learn and years of hard training to do. I'll be putting up pictures tomorrow. In the meantime, I'll be nursing my wounds from the beating I got, do my night routine and chill out at the club
Could have been worse though.... :P
oh i can't wait to see the pics.. Going to laugh my ass off when i do ;D
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Vince please have somebody read your posts and edit for content and length.
1. If you can say something with one word don't use two.
2. Never use a large word when a small word will work.
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HOLY FUCK!!!
I cannot wait to see theses fuckin' pictures! It's going to be the funniest thing on GetBig of ALL-TIME!
Vince, since you said you looked like "shit"......here's a tribute:
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Bump for pics ;D
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What happened to doing the Open class Vince? I hate I didn't get to hang out and chat w/ya, in fact, we almost left during intermission b/c I was under the impression you were doing the Open so I almost didn't stay to see the Juniors, Novice and Women's Figure One Piece round...I'm so glad I did though. Now I know for sure you're not a gimmick account and you actually did show up and compete in white posing trunks, as promised! Props for competing, but dude, seriously, can i please help you prep for your next outing if you're dead set on competing again??? I was expecting a much leaner version of Vince G!
What gives????
You got to be kidding me , Vince G is not a gimmick. Okay 240, Im sorry for calling you him. Nobody can be that delusional. Vince G please dont ever step on a bodybuilding stage again. Hope this helps
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Vince, PLEASE post the pix. I'm bored and I want to laugh!
Thanks!
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Vince, PLEASE post the pix. I'm bored and I want to laugh!
Thanks!
Hopefully there were some getbiggers there who got pics, but just haven't posted them yet because they don't have laptops with them.
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Vince stop doing this to yourself. Did somebody put you up to this?
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Didn't Arvilla take 3rd out of 3 people in his contest?
no...................... ........third out of 10
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no..............................third out of 10
GoatBoy likes you :)
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HOLY f**k!!!
I cannot wait to see theses fuckin' pictures! It's going to be the funniest thing on GetBig of ALL-TIME!
Vince, since you said you looked like "shit"......here's a tribute:
yep its going to be funny especially as Vince himself admits he looked like shit, this is coming from the man who cannot admit to being wrong about anything and actually believes he has made the best he can with his genetics so for him to actually admit to looking like shit then he REALLY must have looked like diarrhea.
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GoatBoy likes you :)
i noticed that.................... ...................
(this one is for you Goat)
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i noticed that.................... ...................
(this one is for you Goat)
Don`t let that waist get out of control....
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Don`t let that waist get out of control....
yea i know........
it's creeping outwards (both Laura and myself have noticed this)
like a turtle shell (still got abs but distended)
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yea i know........
it's creeping outwards (both Laura and myself have noticed this)
like a turtle shell (still got abs but distended)
Nothing you can`t take care of though early on.
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yea i know........
it's creeping outwards (both Laura and myself have noticed this)
like a turtle shell (still got abs but distended)
If your eating like you should, that's bound to happen. No Biggie. Nice pink bag in the backround tho' ;D
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Nothing you can`t take care of though early on.
hope so...................... ...
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There is no such thing as a thread mentioning Arvilla where he doesn't post his pic. Don't let mommy tell you otherwise. Santa Claus doesn't exist. The Easter Bunny is a marketing scheme. And, a thread mentioning Arvilla without an Arvilla picture doesn't exist.
feel free to post your pic................
(ever since i called you fat you have been on my nut-sack,sooo your not fat your "fluffy")
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If your eating like you should, that's bound to happen. No Biggie. Nice pink bag in the backround tho' ;D
pink is the new black ;)
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Sometimes not having competition is not a bad thing. My first contest had a Mr North Vancouver section and no one else enterred from there so I won my first title unopposed! Goodrum has this art down to a science. Trouble was some dude enterred the novices who really should have been in the open division. That happens all the time in bodybuilding because guys would rather win a title than come 3rd in the opens.
Vince G, CSN. MFT. 2nd Novices Mountaineer 2006 Looks impressive.
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yea i know........
it's creeping outwards (both Laura and myself have noticed this)
like a turtle shell (still got abs but distended)
That should take care of itself when you cut your calories. Also, you might want to try some kind of herbal/colon cleanser next time you start to cut, it'll get rid of all the gunk that builds up in your intestines and bring in your waistline.
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That should take care of itself when you cut your calories. Also, you might want to try some kind of herbal/colon cleanser next time you start to cut, it'll get rid of all the gunk that builds up in your intestines and bring in your waistline.
for real???
where do you get such a thing??
and thanks
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No, Mike that's not it. I just get annoyed/bored w/ seeing your pic over and over in the middle of a thread of a completely different subject. For example, this is a thread about Vince G. w/ a small segue with you and sarcasm...I wanna see (and laugh at) Vince.
sorry................no more pics of me i promise
side note: how did vince enter the "novice class" he has competed before
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Good question. Promoters always give a mediocre guy a break. In this case he got heaps of publicity via Goodrum.
In Australia, Novice means never placing in a show before but some consider even competing should disqualify a person and I agree. You would think Goodrum was ready to face the music with the big boys but even his brain saw that wasn't going to happen.
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his brain saw that wasn't going to happen.
If his brain was engaged, he wouldn't have entered the show to begin with.
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side note: how did vince enter the "novice class" he has competed before
This is a fine question.
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Can any of you honestly imagine a former professional wrestler enterring a novice bodybuilding contest?! The guy is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. He forgot he enterred before. It happens all the time.
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This is a fine question.
I am not sure how it works in the US, but here you are eligible for the novice class even if you have competed before, if you have never won your class or in some federations if you have never placed in the top 5 in your class.
Basically, if you have competed before but sucked ass but can enter novice. Therefore Vince would qualify due to him being so crappy.
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for real???
where do you get such a thing??
and thanks
Check any kind of store that sells hippy shit. Or any kind of colon cleanser that you can pick up at Walmart or walgreens or something. Toney Freeman talked about doing colon cleansings every few months to keep his waistline tiny in his second MD article (last months issue I believe, but maybe the one before that). Even when you eat clean, some stuff accumulates in your system and can stay there for months or even years in the case of some of the more highly processed stuff. I know that Irwin Naturals has a cheap cleansing supp. I haven't tried it, so I can't vouch for it personally, but they usually have good quality supps so i have no reason to douobt it.
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Yes, I'll definitely get help next time around from Dr Joe or someone who specializes in natural bodybuilding. I trained twice a day 6 days a week for 8 weeks for this show, practiced posing, and dieted pretty hard. However, looking good is one thing but a person who looks great onstage will make you look like crap.
In the meantime, I'll enjoy the time off, get patched up and keep training until next time
You only dieted 8 weeks for this show?? What the hell are you thinking? Especially if you're natural you're going to need a lot more time than that to even try and achieve coming in decent shape or conditioning. Heck, even the pros with their medicene chest diet longer than that! And please don't tell me that you're lean year around so you don't have to diet much.
nuff said...
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I beleive Vince entered the Junior division.....at least that`s what he said in some posts./
You can enter as a novice if you have never placed first in your class or won an overall title in the NPC.
Some of the guys in the novice class look great,just never placed first before.......they could have been competing for decades and just placing out of the money.
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I beleive Vince entered the Junior division.....at least that`s what he said in some posts./
You can enter as a novice if you have never placed first in your class or won an overall title in the NPC.
Some of the guys in the novice class look great,just never placed first before.......they could have been competing for decades and just placing out of the money.
Perhaps I should have taken a day trip and Owned Vince. Afterall, it was only about 70 miles away or so.
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hahaha ;D
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Adam,it would have been a hollow victory for you...........remember we are taking about Vince here!! LOL :)
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How? You finished 2nd out of 2 people.
he can say he was top 2 :P
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Perhaps I should have taken a day trip and Owned Vince. Afterall, it was only about 70 miles away or so.
If you had, I would have made the two hour trip up there to laugh my ass off at the skinnest bber wannabe in the history of GetBig. Well maybe Alex has that honor, but you catch my drift.
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If Adonis had competed against Goodrum at least we would have seen some photos!! I bet TA believed all that hype from Venom Vince so stayed away. That would have been an historic clash. I guess the reward of winning paled beside the possibility of being totally owned on stage.
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Let me get this straight. Adonis lives 70 miles away from the Goodrum show and never bothered to go there to get the scoop? What a missed opportunity. He was too distracted by that silly Mr Getbig contest.
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Let me get this straight. Adonis lives 70 miles away from the Goodrum show and never bothered to go there to get the scoop? What a missed opportunity. He was too distracted by that silly Mr Getbig contest.
70 miles away is a trip..to go see goodbum... and what if he went there, and he wasnt even there? would getbig.com pay for his gas?? and trouble?? ;)
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I beleive Vince entered the Junior division.....at least that`s what he said in some posts./
You can enter as a novice if you have never placed first in your class or won an overall title in the NPC.
Some of the guys in the novice class look great,just never placed first before.......they could have been competing for decades and just placing out of the money.
The Mountaineer Novice class is for new competitors only. So novice wasn't an option. And I actually trained for 12 weeks but I was thinking about the posing practice which I did for 8 weeks. It is fustrating to train hard, eat clean, and diet for so long for things to come apart in the end but that's the way it went down. And even if I nailed my conditioning, that guy I went against would have still won anyway because he was that good.
But in life, you get thrown off the horse and you dust yourself off but you get back on. I'll get some rest and be back in the gym training in no time. I'll put the trophy next to my other ones in my office..... ;D
As far as Adonis is concerned, he doesn't get it. It doesn't make a difference how many pictures you take by camera. Its a whole new world when you get onstage because being in good shape will get you no-where. Quincy Roberts's Elite Classic is in Nov and its very close to where he is. He's more than welcome to hop onstage and go against me. However don't expect him to
Adonis cannot win any bodybuilding show because he doesn't have the courage to get onstage. His photo physique would be mush onstage because he doesn't have any size. You can look good in front of a camera, you can look good in a mirror, but on-stage its a whole new ballgame.
That's all, I'm going to relax and enjoy the fact that I did put my best efforts in to win the show and fell short of the ultimate goal. But I will return onstage after some help from my friends and bring the pain,
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The Mountaineer Novice class is for new competitors only. So novice wasn't an option. And I actually trained for 12 weeks but I was thinking about the posing practice which I did for 8 weeks. It is fustrating to train hard, eat clean, and diet for so long for things to come apart in the end but that's the way it went down. And even if I nailed my conditioning, that guy I went against would have still won anyway because he was that good.
But in life, you get thrown off the horse and you dust yourself off but you get back on. I'll get some rest and be back in the gym training in no time. I'll put the trophy next to my other ones in my office..... ;D
As far as Adonis is concerned, he doesn't get it. It doesn't make a difference how many pictures you take by camera. Its a whole new world when you get onstage because being in good shape will get you no-where. Quincy Roberts's Elite Classic is in Nov and its very close to where he is. He's more than welcome to hop onstage and go against me. However don't expect him to
Adonis cannot win any bodybuilding show because he doesn't have the courage to get onstage. His photo physique would be mush onstage because he doesn't have any size. You can look good in front of a camera, you can look good in a mirror, but on-stage its a whole new ballgame.
That's all, I'm going to relax and enjoy the fact that I did put my best efforts in to win the show and fell short of the ultimate goal. But I will return onstage after some help from my friends and bring the pain,
HAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA....oh my.... ::)
The shows ive been in, there are always your select 1, 2 competitors that look like the never walked in a gym...there is one in every show..and just bc your one of them, dont rain on TA physique, because he dieted his ass off, something you dont have the will power, and determination to ever do.
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Check any kind of store that sells hippy shit. Or any kind of colon cleanser that you can pick up at Walmart or walgreens or something. Toney Freeman talked about doing colon cleansings every few months to keep his waistline tiny in his second MD article (last months issue I believe, but maybe the one before that). Even when you eat clean, some stuff accumulates in your system and can stay there for months or even years in the case of some of the more highly processed stuff. I know that Irwin Naturals has a cheap cleansing supp. I haven't tried it, so I can't vouch for it personally, but they usually have good quality supps so i have no reason to douobt it.
ok cool
i think ill try it..........thanks!
Mike
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Good point, Heracles, getting ripped is not easy at all. For Goodrum, it is a real test of his knowledge of nutrition and training.
Hey, Melvin, are you still doing that other show next month? Props to you for showing up on stage. I agree that most Getbiggers will never compete on stage.
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haha oh brother, Vince advising Adam on bodybuilding contests !
I like how he says : it is frustrating when you dieted for 12 weeks !
hahaha first when you have a little bit of dedication, 12 weeks of dieting isn't hard ( well maybe the last 2 when you are a little tired )
but you look like you didn't even diet, you are an abomination Vince !
But wait... I am a kid right ? ::)
so I must be wrong on the fact that you look like 10 pounds of shit in a 5 lbs bag and it's a shame that you actually train people for a living cause you have NO CLUE how to get in shape
if you really "improved" , post those pics so you can prove me wrong and prove us that you actually look like you trained for that show
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bump" - waiting for pics vince ;D
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Look, fellas, I have to defend my mate Goodrum here. If he had photos that vindicated him they would have been up long ago accompanied with boasts and stories telling it like it is. The fact that no photos are here suggests he forgot to bring his camera. Oh, wait, he doesn't have a camera, remember? I am sure we would all love to see the Goodrum trophy cupboard or shelf. You gotta love the way Goodrum ain't never going to be a silk purse but he ain't showing us no sow's ears!
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If TA has the nerve to put pic's online for GB to review, I'm pretty sure he'd find the nerve to get on stage...
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... being in good shape will get you no-where...
It's good to see someone who practices what he preaches! ;D
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It's good to see someone who practices what he preaches! ;D
Hah
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The Mountaineer Novice class is for new competitors only. So novice wasn't an option. And I actually trained for 12 weeks but I was thinking about the posing practice which I did for 8 weeks. It is fustrating to train hard, eat clean, and diet for so long for things to come apart in the end but that's the way it went down. And even if I nailed my conditioning, that guy I went against would have still won anyway because he was that good.
But in life, you get thrown off the horse and you dust yourself off but you get back on. I'll get some rest and be back in the gym training in no time. I'll put the trophy next to my other ones in my office..... ;D
As far as Adonis is concerned, he doesn't get it. It doesn't make a difference how many pictures you take by camera. Its a whole new world when you get onstage because being in good shape will get you no-where. Quincy Roberts's Elite Classic is in Nov and its very close to where he is. He's more than welcome to hop onstage and go against me. However don't expect him to
Adonis cannot win any bodybuilding show because he doesn't have the courage to get onstage. His photo physique would be mush onstage because he doesn't have any size. You can look good in front of a camera, you can look good in a mirror, but on-stage its a whole new ballgame.
That's all, I'm going to relax and enjoy the fact that I did put my best efforts in to win the show and fell short of the ultimate goal. But I will return onstage after some help from my friends and bring the pain,
Vince you not only fell off the horse but it kicked you a few times. And you getting on stage isn't even close to being called "courage" more like stupidity. Dude have some dignity and give it up.. Did you get the pizzas.
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This was the kid who won my novice division at my show. Just 21 years old here
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There is no such thing as a thread mentioning Arvilla where he doesn't post his pic. Don't let mommy tell you otherwise. Santa Claus doesn't exist. The Easter Bunny is a marketing scheme. And, a thread mentioning Arvilla without an Arvilla picture doesn't exist.
This never stops hurting...
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That's all, I'm going to relax and enjoy the fact that I did put my best efforts in to win the show and fell short of the ultimate goal. But I will return onstage after some help from my friends and bring the pain,
gold, pure gold.....
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You see, Melvin is a lost soul. All his certificates and best effort couldn't bring home the bacon. Well, you know what I mean. I know Melvin dismisses the good old days as irrelevant but I posed every night for at least 20 minutes for 6 months before my last show. Then he discloses he trained for 12 weeks and dieted well, what is the difference, that is not enough and you don't need an expert to tell you that. It is so easy to look in the mirror and see a marvellous body. However, when you strip away the fat you might lose way too much size. Those giants are absolutely massive off season to look huge at contests. Then a light went on and he selected white posing trunks. Nice one, Goodrum.
Let us hope Melvin bounces back from this one. At least he can feel better than the lads in the Getbig do because he was in a real contest. Somehow it just seems like one of those times when Only me would say, "What did I tell you?!"
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This was the kid who won my novice division at my show. Just 21 years old here
Ooooh Keith, ...he's yummy :P
...and legal in all states & provinces! :D
{pssst} Keith, did you get his number, ...and can you pass it on to me? ;)
Vince,
I guess this probably isn't a very good time to say you should have been using ProArgi-9? :-\ j/k ;)
Congratulations for having the courage to compete, and for having the rhino skin to not let the haters shake your confidence. Keep doing what you're doing, keep believing in yourself, ...you gave it your best and that's all that counts. Just remember, the true competition isn't with anyone else, it's with yourself. :)
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the true competition isn't with anyone else, it's with yourself. :)
That's right, and so far he's been smacked around by himself in the VVV vs.Melvin Goodrum contest.
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Platitudes won't heal the wounds this time. The photos speak volumes!!
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Where are the official results and photos?
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Here is Melvin's quote from page 1 of this thread:
**... I looked like a pile of shit and I obviously still have a lot to learn and years of hard training to
do. I'll be putting up pictures tomorrow.
In the meantime, I'll be nursing my wounds from the beating
I got, do my night routine and chill out at the club...........Could have been worse though...**
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Wrong, my conditioning was better. Except in comparision to the other competitor, I looked like a pile of shit and I obviously still have a lot to learn and years of hard training to do. I'll be putting up pictures tomorrow. In the meantime, I'll be nursing my wounds from the beating I got, do my night routine and chill out at the club
Could have been worse though.... :P
VINCE GOT RAPED--------------LITERALLY ON STAGE
GO BACK TO SMOKING POLES---you said you were doing the open class too you joke
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This never stops hurting...
People can be so insensitive I agree. Take him off your list man. :-\
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This thread is worthless without pics.
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This thread is worthless without pics.
be patient my friend, we will have pics soon enough
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Was hoping Venom Vince Versace would take 1st though.
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be patient my friend, we will have pics soon enough
Come on... If I went to bumfucck, NC and managed to get pics of Vince's triumphent return to the stage, I would have had them uploaded yesterday afternoon!
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First off, I just woke up and there's a crapload of email demanding pictures. I have a 3 hour drive back to South Carolina so I'm not concerned about putting anything up right now especially since pictures will be available at morrisonproductions.net in the coming days. In the meantime, calm your asses down. You act like some of those crack addicts I used to put with when I was in corrections going through withdrawal symptoms.
Also remember that another great Morrison Productions Event is the Carolina Clash on Oct 23rd in Kannapolis, NC. Don't miss out on a great event.
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First off, I just woke up and there's a crapload of email demanding pictures. I have a 3 hour drive back to South Carolina so I'm not concerned about putting anything up right now especially since pictures will be available at morrisonproductions.net in the coming days. In the meantime, calm your asses down. You act like some of those crack addicts I used to put with when I was in corrections going through withdrawal symptoms.
Also remember that another great Morrison Productions Event is the Carolina Clash on Oct 23rd in Kannapolis, NC. Don't miss out on a great event.
Vince I do look forward to meeting you and hanging out with you in November.
I will talk some sense into you. We will seriously go to Krispy Kreme and you me and Jezebelle will talk about your future.
I`ll buy.
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Vince I do look forward to meeting you and hanging out with you in November.
I will talk some sense into you. We will seriously go to Krispy Kreme and you me and Jezebelle will talk about your future.
I`ll buy.
Come on he doesn't even have the motivation to get in a "beach body" condition ::)
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We need more guys like Vince in the NPC. It would really drum up a lot of publicity and attention for the small shows. Given, we don't know or care about who won the show, but this show got way more publicity than it would have without Vince. Maybe the promoters paid him to come in out of shape ;D
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This thread is worthless without pics.
2nd...
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Vince I do look forward to meeting you and hanging out with you in November.
I will talk some sense into you. We will seriously go to Krispy Kreme and you me and Jezebelle will talk about your future.
I`ll buy.
Do more than talk. Get your NPC card and hop onstage.
I'll get my advice from a person who has competed. Even Arvilla would be a better choice than you
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Do more than talk. Get your NPC card and hop onstage.
I'll get my advice from a person who has competed. Even Arvilla would be a better choice than you
LMFAO T.A. owned by Vince G. That is so perfect!
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LMFAO T.A. owned by Vince G. That is so perfect!
Oh Snap
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Do more than talk. Get your NPC card and hop onstage.
I'll get my advice from a person who has competed. Even Arvilla would be a better choice than you
wow...owned by V³
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hahahahaha
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Do more than talk. Get your NPC card and hop onstage.
I'll get my advice from a person who has competed. Even Arvilla would be a better choice than you
You are a bitter,bitter man.
I was trying to extend friendship to you.
Ok, I will now EMBARRASS THE FUCK out of you in front of Branch Warren and everyone at the ELITE.
I bet you will not SHOW UP.
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You are a bitter,bitter man.
I was trying to extend friendship to you.
Ok, I will now EMBARRASS THE f**k out of you in front of Branch Warren and everyone at the ELITE.
I bet you will not SHOW UP.
you will compete at the show TA ?
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Ooooh Keith, ...he's yummy :P
...and legal in all states & provinces! :D
{pssst} Keith, did you get his number, ...and can you pass it on to me? ;)
You like men? Who would have ever thunk it :-\??
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you will compete at the show TA ?
I will make a spectacle that is for sure.
Something of the highest magnitude that will put Vince in his place FOREVER.
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it's safe to say that you would crush Vince onstage
maybe he will come in fatter just so won't be in your class haha
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I will make a spectacle that is for sure.
Something of the highest magnitude that will put Vince in his place FOREVER.
Yes or no, Adonis. If you are a superior bodybuilder then you should be able to defeat me very easily.
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Yes or no, Adonis. If you are a superior bodybuilder then you should be able to defeat me very easily.
STFU you look like shit, even BackDay would have win against you
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Yes or no, Adonis. If you are a superior bodybuilder then you should be able to defeat me very easily.
Is that what you want?
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STFU you look like shit, even BackDay would have win against you
That's fine, let them both call Quincy up for the Elite Classic. Its going to be a great show and there will be plenty of people watching. If Adonis competes, then I'll give him his props then.
My issue is simple, Stavios, I'm insulted that someone who has never stepped onstage thinks he can give bodybuilding contest prep advice. If it came from anyone, even you, I wouldn't care but come on.
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That's fine, let them both call Quincy up for the Elite Classic. Its going to be a great show and there will be plenty of people watching. If Adonis competes, then I'll give him his props then.
My issue is simple, Stavios, I'm insulted that someone who has never stepped onstage thinks he can give bodybuilding contest prep advice. If it came from anyone, even you, I wouldn't care but come on.
Look at my fucking pictures you dolt. Stepping on stage is meaningless.
Look at all the Gurus who advise the PROS. Do they step on stage?
Chad Nichols, Hany Rambod?
You seem to have this fucked up notion that putting your grandmas underwear on and becoming the laughing stock in front of 36 people seems to validate you as a bodybuilder.
You are wrong.
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Look at my fucking pictures you dolt. Stepping on stage is meaningless.
Look at all the Gurus who advise the PROS. Do they step on stage?
Chad Nichols, Hany Rambod?
You seem to have this fucked up notion that putting your grandmas underwear on and becoming the laughing stock in front of 36 people seems to validate you as a bodybuilder.
You are wrong.
Well...putting posing trunks on makes him a competitive bodybuilder...no matter what the place he got. Also, Adam you should do a show....put your theories to the test. Show everyone how ripped you can be with your new diet. Can't you imagine how much you could make as a contest prep person if it truly works the way you say it has or can? Think about it prep 10 people a month x $1000 a prep....thats over $100K a year...cash....all to have people eat ice cream. Shit dude....go for it!!!!
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So Adonis your willing to compete against Vince in a NPC event?
Time for a dance off........someones gonna get served
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Look at my fucking pictures you dolt. Stepping on stage is meaningless.
Look at all the Gurus who advise the PROS. Do they step on stage?
Chad Nichols, Hany Rambod?
You seem to have this fucked up notion that putting your grandmas underwear on and becoming the laughing stock in front of 36 people seems to validate you as a bodybuilder.
You are wrong.
Chad Nicols, Hany Rambod, Chris Aceto, and of course Charles Glass have competed in the NPC.
I also find your whining about the Mr Getbig contest pathetic. When you do a real bodybuilding show, there are no do overs. Accept your defeat like a man
We've heard you talk about eating ice cream and fried chicken and you calling yourself the next Mentzer and all of this. Put your theories and your talk to the test and step onstage in November. If you are so much better than me, DC, Arvilla, and everyone else you've talked shit about then you should do fine and destroy me onstage.
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TA will really earn my respect if he goes onstage
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Chad Nicols, Hany Rambod, Chris Aceto, and of course Charles Glass have competed in the NPC.
I also find your whining about the Mr Getbig contest pathetic. When you do a real bodybuilding show, there are no do overs. Accept your defeat like a man
We've heard you talk about eating ice cream and fried chicken and you calling yourself the next Mentzer and all of this. Put your theories and your talk to the test and step onstage in November. If you are so much better than me, DC, Arvilla, and everyone else you've talked shit about then you should do fine and destroy me onstage.
And if I do?
What will be your excuse for losing?
Clearly there is NOTHING you can do.
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At this juncture can I applaud TA's lampooning of BB industry fuckwits such as DoggCrapp et all whom have carved a living for themselves out of bullshit 'principles' [of which] they sell on to the many hapless wankers fresh off the boat from BB.com
Never have I seen a man with such loathing for the 'industry' as TA, fucking classic stuff, priceless no less!
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And if I do?
What will be your excuse for losing?
Clearly there is NOTHING you can do.
either your going to do it or not. You've run your mouth for years on this site..your' in shape, there is no reason not to, you should beat vince easily..why not?
Are ya yellow??
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Is that what you want?
Look at my fucking pictures you dolt. Stepping on stage is meaningless.
Look at all the Gurus who advise the PROS. Do they step on stage?
Chad Nichols, Hany Rambod?
You seem to have this fucked up notion that putting your grandmas underwear on and becoming the laughing stock in front of 36 people seems to validate you as a bodybuilder.
You are wrong.
Man up.
There's alot to be said for Vince being able to get on stage.You talk a good one ...show and prove.
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And if I do?
What will be your excuse for losing?
Clearly there is NOTHING you can do.
I'll be at the show competing anyway and I don't expect you to have the balls to step onstage so I would basically win. Clearly there is NOTHING YOU can do.
Either show up onstage and put all your talk to the test or put some flour on your legs and step onstage into a KFC deep fryer.
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If TA and Vince actually end up onstage within driving distance, I've got to see this ;D
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I'll be at the show competing anyway and I don't expect you to have the balls to step onstage so I would basically win. Clearly there is NOTHING YOU can do.
Either show up onstage and put all your talk to the test or put some flour on your legs and step onstage into a KFC deep fryer.
Trust me Vince.
I will embarrass you in front of Branch Warren and everyone.
BIG TIME. I am talking about REALLY embarrassing you.
I am going to make flyers of all your photoshopped pics and set up a table and hand them out.
I have other things in store as well...hahhahah
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Trust me Vince.
I will embarrass you in front of Branch Warren and everyone.
BIG TIME. I am talking about REALLY embarrassing you.
I am going to make flyers of all your photoshopped pics and set up a table and hand them out.
I have other things in store as well...hahhahah
Because you can't feel good enough about yourself? Sad.
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you'll have to be a little leaner in the lower back and abs if you do a show TA
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Because you can't feel good enough about yourself? Sad.
You are a tiny fuck. Everyone laughs at you.
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You are a tiny f**k. Everyone laughs at you.
You must be confused with them laughing at your deformed face and ears.
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Trust me Vince.
I will embarrass you in front of Branch Warren and everyone.
BIG TIME. I am talking about REALLY embarrassing you.
I am going to make flyers of all your photoshopped pics and set up a table and hand them out.
I have other things in store as well...hahhahah
What is the date of this show?
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Trust me Vince.
I will embarrass you in front of Branch Warren and everyone.
BIG TIME. I am talking about REALLY embarrassing you.
I am going to make flyers of all your photoshopped pics and set up a table and hand them out.
I have other things in store as well...hahhahah
Go ahead and set up your table at the Elite Classic. I'll be on-stage competing. That's what real bodybuilders do, Adonis. You're not in my league because you're afraid that everyone will see you as you truly are and that all your pictures are a fake
You're nothing but a flunky who is crying about losing an internet contest even when you cheated to win with that stupid diet act. Suck it up and be a man about it
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Go ahead and set up your table at the Elite Classic. I'll be on-stage competing. That's what real bodybuilders do, Adonis.
You're nothing but a flunky who is crying about losing an internet contest. Suck it up and be a man about it
OOOH SNAP! :o
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What is the date of this show?
Nov. 4th in Greensboro, NC.
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Nov. 4th in Greensboro, NC.
You are a joke and I will embarrass you on November 4th.
hahahha I can`t wait to egg you when you are walking in the door!
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wow it's in 2 weeks
are you really doing it TA ?
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even when you cheated to win with that stupid diet act.
how did TA cheat?
He's natural. He follows his own non-traditional Bbing diet. how is that cheating?
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honestly adonis just compete...your going down there anyways, you dont believe in carbing up or sodium loading or any of that shit...so it should be easy for you.
you would shut alot of people up including vince...just do it man...we know you'll own him
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You are a tiny f**k. Everyone laughs at you.
This is the angriest..I've ever seen you..? The profanity, Adonis....
Vince has no right at all ...to consider himself in the same league as Adonis...He(Vince) has not one cut on his entire body...(nor muscle)
He(Vince) can absolutely..bring the worst out in an individual..
Vince..people don't dislike you....They absolutely hate you..and wish death upon you..?!
I don't understand ...? Why do people pay you(Vince) any mind at all?..
You (supposedly) dieted for a show..I know Adonis dieted for a show..The timing could not have been any better Vince.. Throw your pics up...Or leave and never come back..! Man up ! Let's see..Let's judge..
You're always weasling your way out of a challenge..
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how did TA cheat?
He's natural. He follows his own non-traditional Bbing diet. how is that cheating?
i think vince was implying that adonis's diet was a sham to throw off other competitors, which still isn't cheating...just smart
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TA, are you committing to doing the show?
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how did TA cheat?
He's natural. He follows his own non-traditional Bbing diet. how is that cheating?
The diet is a fake and he was bragging about tricking people into following it so he would have a better shot at winning the Mr Getbig. Everyone knows that including DC. No dum ass would truly believe eating cookies and candy would get you to 2% bodyfat.
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The diet is a fake and he was bragging about tricking people into following it so he would have a better shot at winning the Mr Getbig. Everyone knows that including DC.
You fucking Black Turd.
I eat Douhgnuts everyday.
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wow it's in 2 weeks
are you really doing it TA ?
NOV not Oct... ;D
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NOV not Oct... ;D
shit you are right
I tought we were in october with the Olympia comming next week ;D
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You fucking Black Turd.
I eat Douhgnuts everyday.
LMFAO that gave me a good laugh
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The diet is a fake and he was bragging about tricking people into following it so he would have a better shot at winning the Mr Getbig. Everyone knows that including DC. No dum ass would truly believe eating cookies and candy would get you to 2% bodyfat.
I must agree with you on this one Vince.. I do believe Adonis plays the game well...
People know he's an intelligent individual..People hate dieting..it's hard ..and boring...So Adonis played on that.knowing that people are always looking for an easier way...and they followed..Right into his plan....The one (whateva)who didn't follow..and went at it ..the good old fashioned way...is the only one that had a chance..
Adonis...this isn't a rag on you...If I'm wrong..then I'm wrong..but...this is just my opinion..
Don't lower yourself to his level..with the racial slurs...That shit is too negative Adonis..You're showing.. that this man is getting under your skin...
Show some class my man !..
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You fucking Black Turd.
I eat Douhgnuts everyday.
Well bring your doughnuts and your ass to Greensboro and get onstage. What, you can't afford 75.00 for an NPC card or something.
Don't be a little bitch all of your life, son. Show me sand the floor, wax the car, and paint the fence on Nov 4.
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THIS IS GETTIN GOOOOOOOOOOD!!!
Someone start a new thread!!!!!
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You are a joke and I will embarrass you on November 4th.
hahahha I can`t wait to egg you when you are walking in the door!
So, you're willing to put enough effort in to set up a table and throw eggs at me but not get onstage and compete???
Sniff, sniff. I smell pussy 'round here...
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Well bring your doughnuts and your ass to Greensboro and get onstage. What, you can't afford 75.00 for an NPC card or something.
Don't be a little bitch all of your life, son. Show me sand the floor, wax the car, and paint the fence on Nov 4.
I live in Greensboro you Shitpile.
Don`t worry. I will embarrass you to no end. You are done for.
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IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG BIATCH !!!!!
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I must agree with you on this one Vince.. I do believe Adonis plays the game well...
People know he's an intelligent individual..People hate dieting..it's hard ..and boring...So Adonis played on that.knowing that people are always looking for an easier way...and they followed..Right into his plan....The one (whateva)who didn't follow..and went at it ..the good old fashioned way...is the only one that had a chance..
Adonis...this isn't a rag on you...If I'm wrong..then I'm wrong..but...this is just my opinion..
Don't lower yourself to his level..with the racial slurs...That shit is too negative Adonis..You're showing.. that this man is getting under your skin...
Show some class my man !..
MY diet is EXACTLY WHAT I SAY IT IS.
I have posted pics, posted pics of me eating it.
BAST USES MY DIET. YOU NEVER SAY ANYTHING TO HIM!!!!
Get it through your heads.
WE EAT CAKE,COOKIES AND DOUNGHNUTS TO GET LEAN.
YOU EAT CHICKEN AND SHITTY RICE!
Simple as that.
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I live in Greensboro you Shitpile.
Don`t worry. I will embarrass you to no end. You are done for.
So, you going onstage Adonis. Do you have the guts to register as an NPC competitor and put all your talk to action????
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So, you going onstage Adonis. Do you have the guts to register as an NPC competitor and put all your talk to action????
I am not giving a dollar to an organization who supports drug use and non-testing and does not follow the rules.
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Vince, I don't think that TA will do the show but I hope you realise he looks better than you
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MY diet is EXACTLY WHAT I SAY IT IS.
I have posted pics, posted pics of me eating it.
BAST USES MY DIET. YOU NEVER SAY ANYTHING TO HIM!!!!
Get it through your heads.
WE EAT CAKE,COOKIES AND DOUNGHNUTS TO GET LEAN.
YOU EAT CHICKEN AND SHITTY RICE!
Simple as that.
That's right, I eat chickens like you for lunch everyday. Sometimes with hot sauce
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MY diet is EXACTLY WHAT I SAY IT IS.
I have posted pics, posted pics of me eating it.
BAST USES MY DIET. YOU NEVER SAY ANYTHING TO HIM!!!!
Get it through your heads.
WE EAT CAKE,COOKIES AND DOUNGHNUTS TO GET LEAN.
YOU EAT CHICKEN AND SHITTY RICE!
Simple as that.
TA your getting called out.....are you gonna show up and do the show or not??
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That's right, I eat chickens like you for lunch everyday. Sometimes with hot sauce
hahha No you don`t.
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I am not giving a dollar to an organization who supports drug use and non-testing and does not follow the rules.
Yes you are, you said you were going to set up a table and throw eggs at me. That means you'd have to pay for a ticket thus supporting an NPC event.
Excuses...excuses.......
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hahha No you don`t.
Someone find the Wizard of Oz. This lion needs some courage
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Yes you are, you said you were going to set up a table and throw eggs at me. That means you'd have to pay for a ticket thus supporting an NPC event.
Excuses...excuses.......
LMAO hes got you there man...if you can pay to go to the event, why not pay to compete, its not even that much
man up and take the challenge, honestly all you have to do is wear your speedo and put some protan on you and you'll beat him (provided you actually follow your principals and your not bullshitting everyone, it should be easy)
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Yes you are, you said you were going to set up a table and throw eggs at me. That means you'd have to pay for a ticket thus supporting an NPC event.
Excuses...excuses.......
I get in free actually.
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That's right, I eat chickens like you for lunch everyday. Sometimes with hot sauce
lol sometimes you're to funny Vince
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I get in free actually.
Yeah, ladies get in free sometimes.
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Yeah, ladies get in free sometimes.
LOL
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LOL
hahaha Just think.
Milk Tits paid for an NPC card to place last at every single contest.
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hahaha Just think.
Milk Tits paid for an NPC card to place last at every single contest.
I was going to place 2nd even if I had nailed everything. It was a mismatch.
But I still placed ahead of you and the rest of the cowards who never competed. All you got is internet bullshit.
I have a 2 foot bronze trophy for my hard work and it looks damn good next to the rest of my trophies.... ;D When you get an ounce of courage you may want to do the same
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I was going to place 2nd even if I had nailed everything. It was a mismatch.
But I still placed ahead of you and the rest of the cowards who never competed. All you got is internet bullshit.
I have a 2 foot bronze trophy for my hard work and it looks damn good next to the rest of my trophies.... ;D When you get an ounce of courage you may want to do the same
You don`t even have a gram of courage.
You won`t even post a pic.
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Vince, show us your 2nd place physique!
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Vince, show us your 2nd place physique!
He won`t.
Just like he backed down from Guy Grundy and Jimmy Mentis.
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vince honestly just post one picture...they're gunna be up on the NPC site by tomorrow anyways, so people who are gunna bash you, are gunna do it anyways...so if you post a pic now you'll look like less of a coward
props for competing though..however you looked
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You don`t even have a gram of courage.
You won`t even post a pic.
Yeah, and because I'm making you folks wait for them. I don't why you're yelling about the pictures knowing that they will be available on morrisonproductions.net soon. So your argument about courage doesn't hold up.
Instead of posting pictures, Adonis. Step onstage. Don't change the subject.... ;D
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Yeah, and because I'm making you folks wait for them. I don't why you're yelling about the pictures knowing that they will be available on morrisonproductions.net soon. So your argument doesn't hold up
Oh we will compare our pictures for sure.
hahaha That will be funny.
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vince honestly just post one picture...they're gunna be up on the NPC site by tomorrow anyways, so people who are gunna bash you, are gunna do it anyways...so if you post a pic now you'll look like less of a coward
props for competing though..however you looked
Yep, people are going to bash me anyway so why would I care. You can wait like the rest
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They have posted links to this thread on mayhem saying Triple V is owning TA. :-\
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The diet is a fake and he was bragging about tricking people into following it so he would have a better shot at winning the Mr Getbig. Everyone knows that including DC. No dum ass would truly believe eating cookies and candy would get you to 2% bodyfat.
Please post where he was bragging about it. I've seen no evidence of that. There are many people who are starting to seriously believe that focuing on calories, and not macros, is the key to precontest dieting.
If bast and TA can do the Mr Getbig and get that lean on junk food, they might be onto something.
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Please post where he was bragging about it. I've seen no evidence of that. There are many people who are starting to seriously believe that focuing on calories, and not macros, is the key to precontest dieting.
If bast and TA can do the Mr Getbig and get that lean on junk food, they might be onto something.
If TA and bast can get lean on junk food then we should get a true demonstration by going onstage and competing as real bodybuilders. You'll be amazed at how the stage brings out all of your flaws. Turns a well conditioned athlete into a pile of goo
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If TA and bast can get lean on junk food then we should get a true demonstration by going onstage and competing as real bodybuilders. You'll be amazed at how the stage brings out all of your flaws. Turns a well conditioned athlete into a pile of goo
No, not training and eating fried chicken are what KEPT you a pile of goo, not the stage, retard.
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If TA and bast can get lean on junk food then we should get a true demonstration by going onstage and competing as real bodybuilders. You'll be amazed at how the stage brings out all of your flaws. Turns a well conditioned athlete into a pile of goo
Vince, why [provided one consumes enough protein and EFA's] is it impossible to get lean on sugar?
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Vince, why [provided one consumes enough protein and EFA's] is it impossible to get lean on sugar?
If you feel his diet works.....USE IT.
Adonis, are you a man??? Do you have a penis??? If you do, then sign up for the Elite Classic and get your cowardly ass onstage. A Jedi Master such as yourself shouldn't have any problems destroying a patawan like me.
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If TA and bast can get lean on junk food then we should get a true demonstration by going onstage and competing as real bodybuilders. You'll be amazed at how the stage brings out all of your flaws. Turns a well conditioned athlete into a pile of goo
You claimed the diet was a fake. Please prove this.
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You claimed the diet was a fake. Please prove this.
Its impossible.
I am doing it and have done it.
So are many others. Bast included.
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If you feel his diet works.....USE IT.
Adonis, are you a man??? Do you have a penis??? If you do, then sign up for the Elite Classic and get your cowardly ass onstage. A Jedi Master such as yourself shouldn't have any problems destroying a patawan like me.
Vince, I asked you 'why, if [in the presence of enough protein and EFA's] could one not get lean on table sugar?
You are claiming its not possible, which perhaps indicates you believe a foodstuffs glycemic rating is more an indicator of its ability to store as fat rather than other physiologcal pathways? is this the case?
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If Adonis needs 3000 calories a day to maintain his weight, and only eats 2000 calories of pizza, donuts, and ice cream he will lose fat. Why is this hard for some to understand?
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If Adonis needs 3000 calories a day to maintain his weight, and only eats 2000 calories of pizza, donuts, and ice cream he will lose fat. Why is this hard for some to understand?
:)
Smart man.
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Goodrum's ass has been saved by Adonis. What a gift!
Principle 1 to survive on Getbig. Find a whipping boy to dissect and humiliate to take attention off yourself.
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If Adonis needs 3000 calories a day to maintain his weight, and only eats 2000 calories of pizza, donuts, and ice cream he will lose fat. Why is this hard for some to understand?
Very true. Eating a hypo-caloric diet will result in fat loss irrespective of the foods consumed.
Now, let's talk about rate of fat loss, muscle retention, and general health. Eating junk foods loaded with processed sugars and fats is not the optimal way to lose body fat with respect to any of the aforementioned points.
That is where our boy is missing it. Sure, you can mix in some treats but the majority of the foods consumed when on a hypo-caloric diet should be relatively low in fat and definitely low in processed sugars.
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Very true. Eating a hypo-caloric diet will result in fat loss irrespective of the foods consumed.
Now, let's talk about rate of fat loss, muscle retention, and general health. Eating junk foods loaded with processed sugars and fats is not the optimal way to lose body fat with respect to any of the aforementioned points.
That is where our boy is missing it. Sure, you can mix in some treats but the majority of the foods consumed when on a hypo-caloric diet should be relatively low in fat and definitely low in processed sugars.
But should it?.....
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Very true. Eating a hypo-caloric diet will result in fat loss irrespective of the foods consumed.
Now, let's talk about rate of fat loss, muscle retention, and general health. Eating junk foods loaded with processed sugars and fats is not the optimal way to lose body fat with respect to any of the aforementioned points.
That is where our boy is missing it. Sure, you can mix in some treats but the majority of the foods consumed when on a hypo-caloric diet should be relatively low in fat and definitely low in processed sugars.
why no sugar, Chris?
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Happend to come across a contest pic of Vince from the show, looks like he improved
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You claimed the diet was a fake. Please prove this.
The proof is all around you. Most of America is fat and its not because of fast food and refined sugars.
But the only reason we're hearing this is because Adonis refuses to compete at the Elite Classic. All talk no action. He would have more respect for competing the minute he actually does. Adonis is a coward, end of story
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The proof is all around you. Most of America is fat and its not because of fast food and refined sugars.
Vince, dont be a spastic, we are talking about non sedentary types on a hypo caloric diet
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Goodrum is a self-confessed pile of goo. Even a skinny Adonis should easily defeat a guy with no cuts? We will be able to compare their condition after the images from the Mountaineer appear. No need for Adonis to step on stage.
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Just because Adonis isnt competing onstage yet doesnt make him a coward. It ust means he is not ready quite just yet to step on stage.
There are a lot of people at my gymwho train for contests but are they really training hard? Hell no...thats why when they get on stage they look like sh$t. Later they use the excuse that they tried their hardest...but did these people actually work out hard and diet hard? Answer is no....
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Here is Melvin's quote from page 1 of this thread:
**... I looked like a pile of shit and I obviously still have a lot to learn and years of hard training to
do.
Quick.. someone post the pic of Vince looked like shit in the toilet..
In the meantime, I'll be nursing my wounds from the beating
and yeah, he got raped in the ass.. HARD!!!
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Smart man.
How can you lose fat...when most of what you're eating is high in fat ??
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How can you lose fat...when most of what you're eating is high in fat ??
You are joking, right? calories in vs. calories burned, it's not rocket science.
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The proof is all around you. Most of America is fat and its not because of fast food and refined sugars.
But the only reason we're hearing this is because Adonis refuses to compete at the Elite Classic. All talk no action. He would have more respect for competing the minute he actually does. Adonis is a coward, end of story
People are fat because they overeat.
Look at yourself.
Look at all of DC trainers.
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You are joking, right? calories in vs. calories burned, it's not rocket science.
No shitstain..I'm not kidding..Those aren't healthy fats he's ingesting..
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this is some funny shit ;D
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No shitstain..I'm not kidding..Those aren't healthy fats he's ingesting..
Healthy fats. hahhahh
I love it.
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No shitstain..I'm not kidding..Those aren't healthy fats he's ingesting..
Have you ever seen a crackhead or any other drug addict? They are usually extremely lean, do you think they eat clean?
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Healthy fats. hahhahh
I love it.
Why are you laughing at me ?
If there's something I don't know...School me...
I'm not insulting anyone...I'm trying to absorb all the info I can...
If everyone is so fuckin smart and knowledgeable..Then why are so many fatasses lurking these boards?
Why have an off season..Why not just eat like this all the time..and be in shape year round.??
If these foods are so healthy...then why do so many exclude them from their diets ..when wanting to get in shape..??
I'm trying to make sense of this diet Mr.Adonis is on ..that's all!
If my questions..seem dum to some of the geniuses on the board...then don't reply..!
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I'm out of here, man...... ::)
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Why are you laughin at me ? If there's something I don't know...School me... I'm not insulting anyone...I'm trying to absorb all the info I can...
Fear of margarine:
The trans fat myth
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The Food and Drug Administration recently proposed (FDA proposal home page | Federal Register notice) to amend its regulations on nutrition labeling to require the amount of trans fatty acids in foods be included in Nutrition Facts panels. But the science behind this move is suspect.
A recent editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine reviewed the epidemiolgic evidence linking trans fatty acids to heart disease. The editorial concludes "Metabolic and epidemiologic studies indicate and adverse effect of trans fatty acids on the risk of coronary heart disease." Below (in italics) is what the editorial says about the epidemiology studies -- the studies that should validate the theories developed from the metabolic studies. My comments are in bold. Decide for yourself whether trans fats are guilty as charged.
In a case-control study of subjects in the Boston area, we found a strong and significant positive association between the intake of trans fatty acids, assessed with the use of dietary questionnaires, and the risk of acute myocardial infarction. The relative risk of acute myocardial infarction for the quintile with the highest intake of trans fatty acids as compared with the quintile with the lowest intake was 2.4 (P for trend less than 0.001); this association was entirely explained by the intake of these fats from hydrogenated vegetable oil.
This small study (only 239 patients from the Boston area) did not consider non-dietary risk factors for heart disease other than age and sex. Astonishingly, smoking, exercise level, health history, family health history and alcohol consumption were not considered as confounding risk factors.
Bolton-Smith et al. performed a cross-sectional analysis of the association between the intake of trans fatty acids and the presence of previously undiagnosed coronary heart disease among participants in the Scottish Heart Study. The intake of trans fatty acids was positively correlated with the ratio of LDL plus very-low-density lipoprotein cholesterol to HDL cholesterol. The odds ratios for coronary heart disease in the quintile with the highest intake as compared with the quintile with the lowest intake were elevated but not significantly so (1.26 in women and 1.08 in men).
The results from this study were weak statistical associations that were not statistically significant -- meaning the probability was unacceptably high the barely detectable associations could have occurred by chance. Even the study authors conclude,"The results, therefore, do not support a major effect of dietary trans fatty acid..."
Studies in which the composition of fatty acids in tissue or plasma was used as a marker of trans-fatty-acid intake have yielded conflicting results. With one exception, however, these studies have been too small to detect an association reliably. The results of the only large study, which included 671 men with acute myocardial infarction from eight European countries, were inconclusive. The overall analyses revealed no association between the intake of trans fatty acids and the risk of myocardial infarction.
No comment necessary.
The relative risk of coronary heart disease associated with an absolute increase of 2 percent in the intake of trans fatty acids was 1.36 (95 percent confidence interval, 1.03 to 1.81) in the Health Professionals Follow-up Study...
The result spotlighted is so misleading as to constitute scientific misconduct. The relative risk of 1.36 is a raw result, without any adjustment for other heart disease risk factors. When other risk factors are adjusted for -- including age, body mass index, smoking habits, alcohol consumption, physical activity, history of hypertension or high blood cholesterol, family history of myocardial infarction before age 60, profession, and fibre intake -- the weak relative risk is substantially reduced (by more than 50 percent) and becomes statistically insignificant.
The relative risk of coronary heart disease associated with an absolute increase of 2 percent in the intake of trans fatty acids was ... 1.14 (95 percent confidence interval, 0.96 to 1.35) in the Alpha-Tocopherol Beta-Carotene Cancer Prevention Study...
The spotlighted result is a weak association that is not statistically significant. This study consisted of 21,930 male smokers. Can you really study dietary factors for heart disease in a population where the basic lifestyle (i.e., smoking and its attendant unhealthy tendencies) is a risk factor for heart disease?
The relative risk of coronary heart disease associated with an absolute increase of 2 percent in the intake of trans fatty acids was... 1.93 (95 percent confidence interval, 1.43 to 2.61) in the Nurses' Health Study.
This is my favorite study of the bunch. Check out its results.
It reports no statistically significant association between total fat intake and risk of cornary heart disease.
It reports no statistically significant association between animal fat intake and risk of cornary heart disease.
It reports no statistically significant association between saturated fat intake and risk of cornary heart disease.
It reports no statistically significant association between cholesterol intake and risk of cornary heart disease.
The reported association between trans fat and coronary heart disease is only statistically significant for the highest consumption of trans fats -- but it's still a very weak statistical association (relative risk = 1.53).
This study basically reports that all we've been told about the association between fat consumption and heart disease is not supported by data collected from 90,000 nurses over a period of 20 years. So either the study data is wrong or the public health establishment has been wrong about fat consumption being associated with heart disease risk. If the study data is wrong, then I doubt the trans fat result. If the public health establishment is wrong then why should we believe it about trans fat when it has been generally wrong about fat consumption for the last two or three decades?
That's the epidemiology supposedly supporting the proposition that trans fats are so much of a risk for heart disease they need to be labelled. Are you convinced yet?
But there's more. Check out the authors of the studies discussed above. See if you notice anything unusual (like the underlined names).
Ascherio A, Hennekens CH, Buring JE, Master C, Stampfer MJ, Willett WC. Trans-fatty acids intake and risk of myocardial infarction. Circulation 1994;89:94-101.
Bolton-Smith C, Woodward M, Fenton S, Brown CA. Does dietary trans fatty acid intake relate to the prevalence of coronary heart disease in Scotland? Eur Heart J 1996;17:837-45.
Aro A, Kardinaal AF, Salminen I, et al. Adipose tissue isomeric trans fatty acids and risk of myocardial infarction in nine countries: the EURAMIC study. Lancet 1995;345:273-8.
Ascherio A, Rimm EB, Giovannucci EL, Spiegelman D, Stampfer M, Willett WC. Dietary fat and risk of coronary heart disease in men: cohort follow up study in the United States. BMJ 1996;313:84-90.
Pietinen P, Ascherio A, Korhonen P, Hartman AM, Willett WC, Albanes D, Virtamo J. Intake of fatty acids and risk of coronary heart disease in a cohort of Finnish men: the Alpha-Tocopherol, Beta-Carotene Cancer Prevention Study. Am J Epidemiol 1997;145:876-87.
Hu FB, Stampfer MJ, Manson JE, Rimm E, Colditz GA, Rosner BA, Hennekens CH, Willett WC. Dietary fat intake and the risk of coronary heart disease in women. N Engl J Med 1997;337:1491-9.
ALL THE STUDIES supposedly showing trans fats are associated with heart disease risk involved Alberto Ascherio and Walter Willett.
You may also be interested in knowing who authored the editorial: Alberto Ascherio, Martijn B. Katan, Peter L. Zock, Meir J. Stampfer,and Walter C. Willett.
Should the FDA be taking action because of a duet of scientists whose results are so thin? Has the FDA ever heard of the scientific method and its requirement for independent replication of scientific results?
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Hey, Adonis. You can argue nutrition all you like. What is the point of doing that? You have been challenged by Goodrum to compete against him on Stage in November. You know that judges will put a cut guy ahead of a whale. So what is the problem of accepting that challenge? Should be a piece of cake for you. On the other hand, if you lose to Goodrum, the howls of laughter will resonate here for a very long time. With the threat of that humiliation it is a safe bet you won't be stupid enough to risk that happening.
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Why are you laughing at me ?
If there's something I don't know...School me...
I'm not insulting anyone...I'm trying to absorb all the info I can...
If everyone is so fuckin smart and knowledgeable..Then why are so many fatasses lurking these boards?
Why have an off season..Why not just eat like this all the time..and be in shape year round.??
If these foods are so healthy...then why do so many exclude them from their diets ..when wanting to get in shape..??
I'm trying to make sense of this diet Mr.Adonis is on ..that's all!
If my questions..seem dum to some of the geniuses on the board...then don't reply..!
Most of these people are fat my friend from overeating. Protein and oats will make you just as fat as any other food.
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Hey, Adonis. You can argue nutrition all you like. What is the point of doing that? You have been challenged by Goodrum to compete against him on Stage in November. You know that judges will put a cut guy ahead of a whale. So what is the problem of accepting that challenge? Should be a piece of cake for you. On the other hand, if you lose to Goodrum, the howls of laughter will resonate here for a very long time. With the threat of that humiliation it is a safe bet you won't be stupid enough to risk that happening.
I refuse to compete in an organization that supports Drug Use and does not follow their own rules.
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That is where our boy is missing it. Sure, you can mix in some treats but the majority of the foods consumed when on a hypo-caloric diet should be relatively low in fat and definitely low in processed sugars.
Chris,
I agree with you that trans fats and processed sugar is no good for health, but I disagree with you in low fat dieting. You may be interested in this site...
http://www.thincs.org/ (http://www.thincs.org/)
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Have you ever seen a crackhead or any other drug addict? They are usually extremely lean, do you think they eat clean?
Yes..I've seen crackheads..They're lean because they're on CRACK..!!.They barely eat at all! All they do is run back and forth ..looking to get high.. If they get extra money..they dring quarter water..with a pack of chips..
They would not spend their money on Kentucky Fried Chicken..McDonalds..Or Burger King..
Now...what does that have to do with people who are trying to be healthy?
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Most of these people are fat my friend from overeating. Protein and oats will make you just as fat as any other food.
This is very true.
And Basile, Goodbum Vs True Adonis? You have to be joking, right?? hahaha..a guy in the street that never worked out could beat Goodbum
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Yes..I've seen crackheads..They're lean because they're on CRACK..!!.They barely eat at all! All they do is run back and forth ..looking to get high.. If they get extra money..they dring quarter water..with a pack of chips..
They would not spend their money on Kentucky Fried Chicken..McDonalds..Or Burger King..
Now...what does that have to do with people who are trying to be healthy?
Exactly. They don't give a fuck WHAT they eat, they just don't eat much. Hence, they are thin.
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Yes..I've seen crackheads..They're lean because they're on CRACK..!!.They barely eat at all! All they do is run back and forth ..looking to get high.. If they get extra money..they dring quarter water..with a pack of chips..
They would not spend their money on Kentucky Fried Chicken..McDonalds..Or Burger King..
Now...what does that have to do with people who are trying to be healthy?
The ONLY DIET and ONLY THING IN THE WORLD EVER PROVEN to increase longevity in humans is an ultra low calorie diet.
Eat less, and better, to live to 120?
September 12, 2000
Web posted at: 12:06 PM EDT (1606 GMT)
By Daryn Eller
(WebMD) -- Roy Walford, M.D., professor emeritus of pathology at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), is preparing to eat lunch, and you can hardly blame me for scrutinizing his plate.
This is, after all, the man who has long claimed that calorie restriction with optimal nutrition (what he calls the CRON diet) can help people live for 120 years -- possibly even longer. This is also the man who, in an era of rapidly increasing obesity, has made the radical suggestion that people maintain a weight 10 to 25 percent below their "set points" (the weight to which the body naturally gravitates). So who wouldn't want to see if the man practices what he preaches?
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Here are some sample menus. Be sure to check with your doctor before trying this or any diet
Actually, Walford's lunch surprises me a little. On his plate, prepared by one of the two office assistants at his Venice Beach, California, home, is a meal not mentioned in his new book, "Beyond the 120-Year Diet," an update of his 1986 book, "The 120-Year Diet." It consists of a small slice of gourmet pizza topped with vegetables, grilled squash and a fistful of penne pasta with tomato sauce. Walford assures me this is not his usual midday repast: "I ate out last night and there were leftovers, so I brought them home." But the man is not the ascetic one might assume him to be. In fact, a lot of assumptions about Walford are off the mark.
Not your average white-coated lab rat
To be sure, Walford, 76, is unconventional. He sports a shaved head and a walrus moustache, and he lives a rather bohemian existence in a boarded-up commercial building just steps away from the Venice boardwalk -- a place where people come to whirl on skateboards, get tattooed and sometimes espouse kooky theories. He has published fiction and poetry, dabbled in performance art and among other expeditions, has trekked across Africa.
Yet Walford has also maintained a distinguished career as a gerontologist for more than 50 years. An adventurer as well as a scientist, he is best known for his two-year stint in Biosphere 2, the utopian greenhouse experiment in self-sustenance conducted in Oracle, Arizona. Because many of its crops failed, the Biosphere inadvertently became a human study in severe calorie restriction -- in fact, the only such study that has been done on humans to date.
But Biosphere also took a serious physical toll on Walford. Working six days a week in the fields left him with an injured back that ultimately required surgery. Worse, he suffered nitrous oxide poisoning because the structure's glass enclosure prevented ultraviolet light from penetrating and dissipating the gas, an agricultural byproduct. The resulting nerve damage has made it difficult for Walford to walk. When we meet, he sits somewhat hunched behind his desk the entire time. He appears more frail and diminutive than I expected.
The science of calorie restriction
The notion that humans may live 50 percent longer if they eat less is extrapolated from work with animals, Walford says. The first research showing that calorie-restricted rats live longer than their regularly fed counterparts was done in 1935 at Cornell University. Subsequent studies over the last 65 years (Walford estimates that there are 2,000 to 3,000 papers on the topic) have produced similar results and have also indicated that animals on calorie-restricted diets have a lower incidence of cancer, arteriosclerosis, and autoimmune disease. Results have been so promising that the National Institute on Aging (NIA) now spends $3 million a year to study caloric restriction, mostly in rats and monkeys, and has funded Walford's work in the past.
Walford has been doing pioneering calorie restriction work with animals since the 1960s. He's found that the animals not only live longer, they live better. For instance, his 1987 study in the Journal of Gerontology found that when mice of varying ages were placed on rotating rods to test their muscle strength and coordination, calorie-restricted 31- to 35-month-old mice performed just as well as their 11- to 15-month-old counterparts. Likewise, the older mice did as well on maze tests, indicating that they had no apparent decline in mental function. "People say they don't want to live to 120 because they think they're going to be frail for 40 years," says Walford. "They don't realize that calorie restriction extends the period of viability and good health."
Exactly how the CRON diet may extend life is not known, but several theories have been proposed. "One is that animals, when faced with a shortage of food, will rechannel energy from growth and reproduction into maintenance and repair," says Walford. Other theories suggest that the diet may limit cell-damaging free radicals, decrease blood sugar and insulin or prevent the immune system from deteriorating.
Walford concedes that we don't know for sure whether what's true for rodents applies to humans, although ongoing studies at the University of Wisconsin and the NIA using monkeys as subjects may give us a better idea. The monkeys, studied for 10 years, have demonstrated a lower rate of diabetes than their regularly fed counterparts. They've also maintained higher than normal levels of the hormone DHEA, which is associated with youth, according to Mark Lane, Ph.D., head of nutritional and molecular physiology in the Laboratory of Neurosciences at the NIA and principal investigator on the study.
Again, the closest thing to a human study is Walford's Biosphere experiment. After two years of functional caloric restriction, the inhabitants had declines in blood pressure, blood cholesterol and blood glucose, which Walford says are markers of aging. Lane, however, isn't convinced -- despite his great respect for Walford's work. "The study shows that you can produce positive health changes in people through calorie restriction, but the data I've seen don't show anything about aging."
His own guinea pig
Walford, who is currently editing a video documentary about Biosphere 2 and doing animal research at UCLA, has himself been adhering to the CRON diet since 1984. Today he carries about 134 pounds on his 5-foot-8-inch frame. "My set point is about 155," he says. "I was a Big Ten wrestling champion at the University of Chicago and I had to train down, so I know it pretty well." To stay underweight, he consumes about 1,600 calories a day, but says he doesn't feel deprived. "You get accustomed to it after a while," he says. "If you change your eating habits to include more whole food (beans, rice, vegetables and fruit), then you'll eat less."
Walford eats out about once a week, usually at one of the neighborhood's tonier restaurants. At home, on a typical day, breakfast might be a banana-strawberry milkshake or half a cup of millet with wheat germ and fruit. Lunch is a large bowl of fish chowder (made with skim milk) and a whole-grain roll or a sardine sandwich. For dinner once a week, Walford has a mega-salad of his own creation, consisting of an assortment of raw vegetables (lettuce, spinach, peppers, broccoli, sweet potato, onions, cabbage), rice and beans, and dressed with expensive (get the best, he stresses) balsamic vinegar and olive oil. A dinner roll and nonfat yogurt with apricots for dessert round out the meal. The diet is hardly fit for a gourmand, but it's not quite as austere as a monk's menu, either.
The 21st century, Walford says, will be the age of the "long-living society." In the near future, there will be advances in modern biology that will extend life spans. "But calorie restriction is the only thing that we can be relatively confident works now. If you want to hang around to take advantage of the newer techniques when they become available, this is what to do now."
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The Mountaineer Novice class is for new competitors only. So novice wasn't an option. And I actually trained for 12 weeks but I was thinking about the posing practice which I did for 8 weeks. It is fustrating to train hard, eat clean, and diet for so long for things to come apart in the end but that's the way it went down. And even if I nailed my conditioning, that guy I went against would have still won anyway because he was that good.
But in life, you get thrown off the horse and you dust yourself off but you get back on. I'll get some rest and be back in the gym training in no time. I'll put the trophy next to my other ones in my office..... ;D
As far as Adonis is concerned, he doesn't get it. It doesn't make a difference how many pictures you take by camera. Its a whole new world when you get onstage because being in good shape will get you no-where. Quincy Roberts's Elite Classic is in Nov and its very close to where he is. He's more than welcome to hop onstage and go against me. However don't expect him to
Adonis cannot win any bodybuilding show because he doesn't have the courage to get onstage. His photo physique would be mush onstage because he doesn't have any size. You can look good in front of a camera, you can look good in a mirror, but on-stage its a whole new ballgame.
That's all, I'm going to relax and enjoy the fact that I did put my best efforts in to win the show and fell short of the ultimate goal. But I will return onstage after some help from my friends and bring the pain,
dose of reality Vince...
Adonis would crush you and I will bet money it...
put up or shut up
>:(
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Chris,
I agree with you that trans fats and processed sugar is no good for health, but I disagree with you in low fat dieting. You may be interested in this site...
http://www.thincs.org/ (http://www.thincs.org/)
You will note I said RELATIVELY low in fat :). I said that because I fully realize fat provides satiety in one's diet and should be included. The only problem with fat is its caloric density. Your relative consumption of fat should vary depending on the total number of calories being consumed. The less calories you are consuming the less fat you should consume to a given point. I think fat should always be at least 15% of your calories consumed and usually significantly higher.
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Most of these people are fat my friend from overeating. Protein and oats will make you just as fat as any other food.
I can understand this Mr.Adonis...So every single meal you have contains these kinds of fats..and sugars.?
I'm absolutely looking into this...You look great...No matter how many times I insulted you...One thing I've said from the beginning ..is you look awesome..
Most people(like myself) are scared of change.. Wer'e shown one method of doing thing's ..and we get stuck ..and believe,,there are no other ways..
Thank you for the reply kind sir(Mr.Adonis)
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Exactly. They don't give a f**k WHAT they eat, they just don't eat much. Hence, they are thin.
Aaaahhhh...POINT MADE!!!!!!! VERY GOOD!!!!!!!! That along with a couple hrs. of sleep a month..and you're..ready for the O..!
Understood Danielson..
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I can understand this Mr.Adonis...So every single meal you have contains these kinds of fats..and sugars.?
I'm absolutely looking into this...You look great...No matter how many times I insulted you...One thing I've said from the beginning ..is you look awesome..
Most people(like myself) are scared of change.. Wer'e shown one method of doing thing's ..and we get stuck ..and believe,,there are no other ways..
Thank you for the reply kind sir(Mr.Adonis)
You have got your whole life to live.
You guys really should try something different.
Something backed by logic and Science.
Ingesting Large amounts of Protein and food is just horrible. Any food.
Where I come into play is that I have devised an extremely accurate formula for everyone that determines HOW MUCH you can eat based on heat and Thermodynamics.
ANYBODY!
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Aaaahhhh...POINT MADE!!!!!!! VERY GOOD!!!!!!!! That along with a couple hrs. of sleep a month..and you're..ready for the O..!
Understood Danielson..
I was only talking about weight loss, not muscle building. ;)
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You have got your whole life to live.
You guys really should try something different.
Something backed by logic and Science.
Ingesting Large amounts of Protein and food is just horrible. Any food.
Where I come into play is that I have devised an extremely accurate formula for everyone that determines HOW MUCH you can eat based on heat and Thermodynamics.
ANYBODY!
If your "formula" is so accurate then why did you lose so much muscle?
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If your "formula" is so accurate then why did you lose so much muscle?
He never had any.
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You have got your whole life to live.
You guys really should try something different.
Something backed by logic and Science.
Ingesting Large amounts of Protein and food is just horrible. Any food.
Where I come into play is that I have devised an extremely accurate formula for everyone that determines HOW MUCH you can eat based on heat and Thermodynamics.
ANYBODY!
Plese Mr.Adonis...If for your morals..you don't want to give any of your money to a corrupt organization...If.. some of these gentleman would like to join me...in putting the money in your PAYPAL account...so you can shut Vince up..
Just think about it..it's coming out of our pockets..not yours..once again..Thank you.for the reply.
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If your "formula" is so accurate then why did you lose so much muscle?
I didn`t lose an ounce.
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Great work TA. You look like you lost practically no muscle and thats quite a feat for a natural bodybuilder. BTW side tricep pose is INSANE.
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adonis..why are u trying to reinvent the wheel?
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I was only talking about weight loss, not muscle building. ;)
Damn brotha...You made it super simple..to understand that point..Fuck all of the science..It's common sense..
Thank you my man ..
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Damn brotha...You made it super simple..to understand that point..f**k all of the science..It's common sense..
Thank you my man ..
anytime. :)
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anytime. :)
You and Adonis are good dudes!.
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ADONIS...CONGRATS ! u look good...but damn man...u are one ugly mofo :)) :)...no offense
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You and Adonis are good dudes!.
I am not saying to eat that way. I most certainly DO NOT. I was only saying that it is possible to lose weight on that type of diet.
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back to the topic, here is vince abs thigh pose from the 2006 mountaineer
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You have got your whole life to live.
You guys really should try something different.
Something backed by logic and Science.
Ingesting Large amounts of Protein and food is just horrible. Any food.
Where I come into play is that I have devised an extremely accurate formula for everyone that determines HOW MUCH you can eat based on heat and Thermodynamics.
ANYBODY!
Except for all the logic and science that says you're wrong. And not a single published research article that supports you. B.S. isn't a science.
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Except for all the logic and science that says you're wrong. And not a single published research article that supports you. B.S. isn't a science.
Wrong.
EVERYTHING is backed by Scientific Research.
I should have it all compiled and ready to go soon. 240 is going to help me get it straightened out.
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You will note I said RELATIVELY low in fat Smiley. I said that because I fully realize fat provides satiety in one's diet and should be included. The only problem with fat is its caloric density. Your relative consumption of fat should vary depending on the total number of calories being consumed. The less calories you are consuming the less fat you should consume to a given point. I think fat should always be at least 15% of your calories consumed and usually significantly higher.
I myself prefer fat over carbs. Carbs just make me want to pig out. ;)
I think Adonis has done very well with the genetics given to him by his parents. All we can do is reach our potential.
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High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) and its Potential Role in Fatty Liver Disease
21-Jul-2006
by Raphael Merriman, MD
Nonalcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH) is characterized by fat in the liver causing variable amounts of inflammation and scarring in people who drink little or no alcohol. Obesity is a major risk factor for NASH, which is becoming increasingly common in adults and children. Obesity is also the major risk factor for insulin resistance. Insulin, a hormone secreted by the pancreas, helps the body use glucose (blood sugar) allowing it to enter muscle and liver cells for use as energy or storage. Insulin resistance occurs when those cells are less sensitive to normal amounts of insulin, causing the pancreas to increase secretion. This can lead to diabetes and elevated cholesterol, both of which are also strongly associated with NASH. Therefore it is not surprising that insulin resistance has recently emerged as the main underlying metabolic abnormality in NASH.
As obesity has escalated to epidemic levels, there has been an increase in both total caloric consumption and the consumption of certain substances in the typical American diet. A glance at the nutrition labels of most processed foods will show the near ever-presence of an added sweetener called high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which is made by converting inexpensive corn starch into a high fructose mix. On a sweetness scale, fructose is nearly twice as sweet as ‘regular’ sugar (sucrose), and it now accounts for over 40% of caloric sweeteners added to food products. HFCS has largely replaced sucrose in sodas, fruit juices, dairy products, most baked goods and numerous processed products. For example, 60% of the calories in apple juice, used also as the base for many fruit drinks, come from fructose.
But why has concern been expressed about HFCS? Is it simply that we are consuming more calories (and added sweeteners) in larger portion sizes? Though that also appears true, recent research indicates a more troubling side of HFCS. The metabolism of fructose is substantially different from that of the main human sugar, glucose. Unlike glucose, fructose does not stimulate insulin release from the pancreas or leptin release, another hormone important in regulating appetite. As a result, the brain does not sense the need to limit food intake. This leads to further caloric intake, weight gain and obesity. Of even greater concern, when large quantities of fructose are consumed, it bypasses the usual control mechanisms and is preferentially converted to fat, leading to liver fat accumulation and high cholesterol. Additionally, the long term consumption of HFCS-laden diets has recently been implicated in the development of insulin resistance. Therefore many aspects of HFCS use point to its potential role in the development of NASH.
What should the consumer do? Limiting HFCS intake would seem prudent but can prove difficult as the precise HFCS content of food products is often difficult to decipher from food labels. Widely accepted guidelines are not available though the World Health Organization (WHO) has recommended limiting added sugars to less than 10% of total daily calories. Further research on HFCS will shed more light on its role in fatty liver disease.
Dr. Merriman is Assistant Professor of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco.
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Except for all the logic and science that says you're wrong. And not a single published research article that supports you. B.S. isn't a science.
Sure there is. I can post a study where subjects lost fat by eating all their carbs from table sugar.
Adonis is more right than wrong. Get "enough" protein, eat below maintenance calories, get the calories from whatever you wish and you lose fat and preserve muscle.
The two most important things for success: get enough protein, which isn't a humongous amount, get enough essential fat... and the rest don't matter much.
Look at Vince Taylor. He drinks a couple of quarts of regular Coke year round, eats at burger king year round. He said he avoids pizza and cookies the last couple of weeks before a show but otherwise he's very relaxed about his diet.
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Wrong.
EVERYTHING is backed by Scientific Research.
I should have it all compiled and ready to go soon. 240 is going to help me get it straightened out.
stop associating yourself with science. please.
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stop associating yourself with science. please.
really. hes what we call an internet research slueth. his ability to corral free, .com info is amazing.
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This was the kid who won my novice division at my show. Just 21 years old here
Yummy!
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Could Vince beat this guy?
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Wrong.
EVERYTHING is backed by Scientific Research.
I should have it all compiled and ready to go soon. 240 is going to help me get it straightened out.
The last time you showed some of that scientific research you altered it because it refuted everything you had been saying. Want me to post it again? You never did explain that. You're delusional and a liar. Just because you keep saying everything over and over again doesn't make it any less false. There is clear evidence that what you are saying is simply not true. What is more likely, that there is a massive conspiracy to spread lies about nutrition over the course of more than 50 years, one that has never been revealed and not once has had any evidence of it's existence leak, or that you are wrong?
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WHERE ARE THE F'n VINCE PICS?????
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Only me and I did a good job of keeping the Goodrum carnival current. Some Mountain boys even promised to be there to take photos. We got nothing. Adonis was too busy looking in the mirror to go over and represent us. The scoop of the year and no one was there. Talk about losers! Goodrum has photos but isn't that stupid to incriminate himself. We will see the official photos and that is about all.
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I WANT SOME FUCKING PICTURES
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You still hating old man basile.
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MISS KAREN IS A MAN, AND HAS A GENITAL INFECTION.
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And you would know you Fuckstick.Grow up STUPID.
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chuckle.....I would problably hand it back. He was the better man that day. Like I said, he really should have been in the open
No Vince. He was a quality Junior-level competitor with no business in the Open. You looked like shit and everyone in the audience was making fun of you at prejudging and at the evening show.
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And you would know you Fuckstick.Grow up STUPID.
look at your use of words... that's not what a normal woman would say...
If anyone has to grow up its you, oh and btw...
MELTDOWN
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What's wrong ali23 I came on here and was attacked from my 1st post and I never swore or anything this is a boys club so I talk like the boys if you and anyone else don't like it go to Mayham like a Bitch.STFU.
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What's wrong ali23 I came on here and was attacked from my 1st post and I never swore or anything this is a boys club so I talk like the boys if you and anyone else don't like it go to Mayham like a Bitch.STFU.
YOU ARE A TRANNY, ROFL...
The meltdown continues...
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And you are ali23 and that means what???just like all the trolls using big boy fake names on ya computer and type personal attacks.Just shut up dick sucker go and kiss some ass.
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And you are ali23 and that means what???just like all the trolls using big boy fake names on ya computer and type personal attacks.Just shut up dick sucker go and kiss some ass.
So your either denying your a dick sucker which makes you a carpet eater tranny OR you a boy that wants to be a girl, which is it?
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So your either denying your a dick sucker which makes you a carpet eater tranny OR you a boy that wants to be a girl, which is it?
I 2nd that, and on behalf of the rest of get big, I third that as well.
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Oh wait a minute ali23 let me guess you are 23 wow how about I change my name to girlsbelongonmayhem you FUCKSTICK.Many have tried to get me to shut up you won't succeed you little boy.
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Yes, I'll definitely get help next time around from Dr Joe or someone who specializes in natural bodybuilding. I trained twice a day 6 days a week for 8 weeks for this show, practiced posing, and dieted pretty hard. However, looking good is one thing but a person who looks great onstage will make you look like crap.
In the meantime, I'll enjoy the time off, get patched up and keep training until next time
8 WHOLE weeks??? Wow buddy...don't overdo it. Just so you know, a conpetition diet should run @ 12-16 weeks. But judging by the poolside pics that you posted at 12 weeks out, you needed 20 weeks.
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The last time you showed some of that scientific research you altered it because it refuted everything you had been saying. Want me to post it again? You never did explain that. You're delusional and a liar. Just because you keep saying everything over and over again doesn't make it any less false. There is clear evidence that what you are saying is simply not true. What is more likely, that there is a massive conspiracy to spread lies about nutrition over the course of more than 50 years, one that has never been revealed and not once has had any evidence of it's existence leak, or that you are wrong?
I missed that post, would you mind providing that link? I would love to post that link everytime he starts his crap talking
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(http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51334)
;D
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CONCLUSION
TOP
ABSTRACT
INTRODUCTION
SCIENTIFIC RATIONALE FOR...
DIRECTIONS FOR FUTURE RESEARCH
CONCLUSION
REFERENCES
However, some experimental data suggest that exercise may actually decrease the protein requirements necessary to maintain balance. Nevertheless, it can be speculated that a protein supplement should be useful to stimulate net muscle protein synthesis, particularly if the supplement has the optimal proportion of individual amino acids. However, experiments have yet to be performed that document such a beneficial effect of protein supplements.
&You are such a jackass T.A.
First off, that's one of the articles I posted the reference to in one of the threads where this argument has been going on.
Second, you left out the first part of the conclusion. I have the hard copy in my hands right now. Here is what the conclusion actually said:
Conclusion
A strong theoretical basis exists for expecting a beneficial effect of a protein supplement in active people. Amino acid intake stimulates the transport of amino acids into muscle, and there is a direct link between amino acid inward transport and muscle protein synthesis. However, some experimental data suggest that exercise may actually decrease the protein requirements necessary to maintain balance. Nevertheless, it can be speculated that a protein supplement should be useful to stimulate net muscle protein synthesis, particularly if the supplement has the optimal proportion of individual amino acids. However, experiments hace yet to be performed that document such a beneficial effect of protein supplements.
You are a liar. You altered the conclusion to better suit your needs.
Third, two years later Robert R. Wolfe published Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids in The Journal of Nutrition, where he says "The results presented here establish a direct role of amino acids in regulating net muscle protein balance. Furthermore, the response is directly affected by the exact composition and amount of mixture of amino acids ingested, the timing of ingestion in relation to exercise and the amount and nature of nonprotein energy ingested with amino acids. When these findings are considered in the context of the estimation of protein or amino acid "requirements," it is clear that multiple results could be achieved for the same AMINO ACID intake, depending on the interaction of the various factors discussed above. Thus, attempts to identify a unique AMINO ACID "requirement" are likely to be unsuccessful. Furthermore, our results, along with virtually all data in the literature on the topic, suggest that increasing AMINO ACID intake will increase muscle mass, with all other variables remaining constant. Whereas this concept runs counter to popular perception, real-life examples abound in obese individuals who have signifigantly elevated muscle mass despite living sedentary lives (e.g., Ref. 28). Thus, it is likely that increasing AMINO ACID intake in accord with the principles discussed above to optimize effectiveness will promote muscle anabolism, whether in depleted individuals such as the elderly or in active athletes trying to increase muscle mass. The exact nutritional approach will determine the extent of anabolic response."
If you don't want to read it, let me sum it up. T.A. is very, very wrong, about everything he has said. Timing matters. Protein matters. A calorie is not just a calorie.
There ya go Steele Pegasus
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Oh wait a minute ali23 let me guess you are 23 wow how about I change my name to girlsbelongonmayhem you FUCKSTICK.Many have tried to get me to shut up you won't succeed you little boy.
let me guess?? you haven't gotten laid in years??
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I just googled vince goodrum-lol. found some hilarious stuff- :)
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I think Im going to order Vince's program from ebay :)
http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=caliberfitness (http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=caliberfitness)
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no..............................third out of 10
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240 seeing it is so important for you to know this and not just be able to say "Michael Good Job", Michael place 3rd out of 4 (Here is 2 pics of the 4 Heavyweights, The guy on the far left won 2nd, the second guy from the left won 1st and Michael 3rd.) in the Open Heavyweight (he could have taken the "easy" way out and gone in a Novice class, but the Expeditor asked him if he wanted a hollow win or a real competition and Michael went for the competition...and did very well). He also took 4th out of 7 in the Masters (Masters was actually considered the toughest in the whole show and had the most entries). He did his best, he placed as far as I am concerned very well for a first timer. They (the expeditor and judges) were amazed that it was his first show. So thanks again for showing your support by saying "Good job Mike, you did what you set out to do and competed. You are now a NPC Competitive Bodybuilder. Way to go." Oh wait...you didn't say that, you said "How many people were in the Open heavyweight class?".
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Originally Posted by ajdo
As a competitor in the Mountaineer I saw this idiot up close-he looked no different than someone who had not trained at all- his muscles looked flat-not from lack of carbs or h20 but from lack of training, the guy was pumpin up w/ push-up handles.
He pumped up for 2hrs straight, spent more time talkin to people than preppin for posing. Storm and him had a stare down moment and Storm asked him if he was a heavy and he gave some bs backpeddling awnser like yeah but not in your division...some crap. It was humorous-the white trunks that looked like a bad hanes underwear commercial. The duck footed -knock kneed posture- I shit you not the guy has a woman's posture-V I dont hate you- You are like a a rare specimen of mental retardation-it is somethin to behold. From what I saw you dont A) train B)diet C) know anything about what would be involced in bbing. I've seen checker players w/ better physiques and stage presence.
It was a shame to cuz the quality of the physiques throughout the show was so good Jr, Nov, Open, Masters were all very good, and then there was you.
;D
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahah ;D
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OWNED!
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so let me get this straight..to get an NPC card..all you have to do is pay the fee and thats it
so any bloated, ugly, middle aged black dude can compete
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"It was a shame to cuz the quality of the physiques throughout the show was so good Jr, Nov, Open, Masters were all very good, and then there was you."
hahahahha
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Guys like Goodrum are a rare gift to any community. They are true believers and oblivious. That combination has got to entertain and Goodrum didn't disappoint. Who else would get up on stage in white trunks? That is class personified. I hope you people appreciate what you have here.
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ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
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I dont think he will ever come back to getbig after that testimony!!!!!
Brutal WOW!!!!
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brutal
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I dont think he will ever come back to getbig after that testimony!!!!!
That quote is from Mayhem, not Getbig.
Even the kiss-ass board bags on Vince! :o
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that was hilarious.
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haha I read it 3 or 4 times and I am still laughing
I would have loved to be there
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I've seen checker players w/ better physiques and stage presence.
Quote of the day, bar none.
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Hahha. ULTIMATE OWNAGE
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Not bad Vince. You actually made drastic improvements from his 2004 outing (abs) and his 13 week out poolside shot, and have a nice trophy to show for your time & effort. Still a long way to go for sure but far more than I'd expected.
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(http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51334)
;D
Is that David Henry... :o
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brutal
He needs lots more time training and eating right; patience is the key here with Goodbum. In the meantime, the accrued stage experience can only help the fellow.
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hahaha..
gotta love the dramatic posing goodbum seems to be displaying...
All thats left to be perfect, is the CONAN theme song...if he used that, I would be throwing my protein bar at him, or whatever I was eating if i was there...hahaha.....looks like he has a gut....how can you go on stage with a gut? and a flabby lowerback? omg..
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Nah I heard he used this while he walks the stage with Bee pollen in his vagina, while shaking his imaginary magic stick
What you gon' do with all that junk?
All that junk inside that trunk?
I'ma get, get, get, get, you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my hump.
What u gon' do with all that ass?
All that ass inside them jeans?
I'm a make, make, make, make you scream
Make u scream, make you scream.
Cos of my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump.
My hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely lady lumps. (Check it out)
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One thing, perhaps, we can count on is that Goodrum will be struggling to improve for years. Should be fun. Only me and I were begging the lads to attend and record for Getbig but we haven't seen much yet. Good effort to get something I suppose. It all remains rather a mystery!
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Congrats to Vince for his silver medal showing. ;)
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What you guys don't understand about TA is that he built all his muscle on the traditional --high protein-carbs-fats diet...The pictures he is showing now is himself in a diet restricted state...He will never gain another pound of muscle eating ice cream --donuts--ect without the aid of gear....It just won't happen...He throws out numbers like 30 or 40% bodyfat....Which he wasn't even close to that and then throws numbers like 4% bodyfat out....which i've never seen anyone under 5% bodyfat with a fat ass..(which he has in his getbig contest pictures).which is why he is wearing the 70s shorts...He is probably a guy who has never been this lean in his life...And because of this, he thinks he did something incrediable....You see it all the time in the gym....A guy does the diet and gets himself into shape and now thinks he knows it all....TA has a classic case of this...Imagine a man who claims he is dead against gear...Is into health ect...won't put any vitamins in his body but has no problem eating processed food like its going out of style....
I couldn't eat what he eats if i wanted to...Sure for a day or two or even three...But that shit gets fucking old...I mean really if i was a 12 year old boy or something then maybe eating donuts all day or candy bars and what not would sound great but grown adults eating tubs of ice cream all day...what does he do run outside when the ice cream man comes by....when the grown ups are all eatin filet' migon and red wine for dinner, TA is sitting at the kids table eating mac and cheese and washing it down with kool-aid....
what a joke...
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What you guys don't understand about TA is that he built all his muscle on the traditional --high protein-carbs-fats diet...The pictures he is showing now is himself in a diet restricted state...He will never gain another pound of muscle eating ice cream --donuts--ect without the aid of gear....It just won't happen...He throws out numbers like 30 or 40% bodyfat....Which he wasn't even close to that and then throws numbers like 4% bodyfat out....which i've never seen anyone under 5% bodyfat with a fat ass..(which he has in his getbig contest pictures).which is why he is wearing the 70s shorts...He is probably a guy who has never been this lean in his life...And because of this, he thinks he did something incrediable....You see it all the time in the gym....A guy does the diet and gets himself into shape and now thinks he knows it all....TA has a classic case of this...Imagine a man who claims he is dead against gear...Is into health ect...won't put any vitamins in his body but has no problem eating processed food like its going out of style....
I couldn't eat what he eats if i wanted to...Sure for a day or two or even three...But that shit gets fucking old...I mean really if i was a 12 year old boy or something then maybe eating donuts all day or candy bars and what not would sound great but grown adults eating tubs of ice cream all day...what does he do run outside when the ice cream man come by....when the grown up are all eatin filet' migon and red wine for dinner, TA is sitting at the kids table eating mac and cheese and wash it down with kool-aid....
what a joke...
Excellent post :D
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What you guys don't understand about TA is that he built all his muscle on the traditional --high protein-carbs-fats diet...The pictures he is showing now is himself in a diet restricted state...He will never gain another pound of muscle eating ice cream --donuts--ect without the aid of gear....It just won't happen...He throws out numbers like 30 or 40% bodyfat....Which he wasn't even close to that and then throws numbers like 4% bodyfat out....which i've never seen anyone under 5% bodyfat with a fat ass..(which he has in his getbig contest pictures).which is why he is wearing the 70s shorts...He is probably a guy who has never been this lean in his life...And because of this, he thinks he did something incrediable....You see it all the time in the gym....A guy does the diet and gets himself into shape and now thinks he knows it all....TA has a classic case of this...Imagine a man who claims he is dead against gear...Is into health ect...won't put any vitamins in his body but has no problem eating processed food like its going out of style....
I couldn't eat what he eats if i wanted to...Sure for a day or two or even three...But that shit gets fucking old...I mean really if i was a 12 year old boy or something then maybe eating donuts all day or candy bars and what not would sound great but grown adults eating tubs of ice cream all day...what does he do run outside when the ice cream man comes by....when the grown ups are all eatin filet' migon and red wine for dinner, TA is sitting at the kids table eating mac and cheese and washing it down with kool-aid....
what a joke...
Trust me, I understand all of that very, very well. Everytime he gets proven wrong, he either stops posting on that thread and starts another one to talk about eating ice cream and putting Arvilla to shame with all the pics he posts, or he tells the other person to post a pic, as if the fact that he just dieted down and that the other person isn't at the end of a 12 week cutting phase makes his lunacy somehow correct. I just can't to see what kind of mega-meltdown ensues when the official Mr. GetBig results come in tomorrow and he isn't in first :)
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Seems to me we have a pecking order on Getbig. This week Goodrum is at the bottom of the heap while Adonis and Alex seem to feel better than that bum Melvin. I love the way Arvilla seized the moment to display his physique against the flotsom and jetsom of Getbig. Being best of that bunch isn't much to boast about. We would all do better if we spent more time in the gym.
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I think Im going to order Vince's program from ebay :)
http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=caliberfitness (http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=caliberfitness)
lol.
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After such a huge buildup to Melvin's contest showing, its such a shame that we've only been able to see those blurry images.
Then again, sharper images still wouldn't have improved his look much.
That's my two cents.
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I gotta tell you I have been on the Adonis diet now for 6 years and all I have done is gain weight. Is it 2 donuts or 12? ;D
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Have you heard the message he left on his website for evberyone to hear. He sounds like a retarded Ronnie Coleman. I swear he does. And his online store is really funny. He got to distribute Vyotech products May of this year. In June of this year they quit letting him distribute. It happens to other products too. He is absoultely one of the biggest fakes in the industry. Funny as hell but fake. Look at his newsletter page and info.
http://www.caliberfitness.com/newsletter/ (http://www.caliberfitness.com/newsletter/)
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Hey, Keith, don't you think it is time to give your mate Goodrum a call and sort things out?
1-888-275-1323
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isn't this the thread where Vince challenged TA to get on stage with him??? I thought TA said he would be at this show....is this posedown going to take place or what...I guess I missed how this panned out and don't want to go through 15 pages...
anyone?
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Yes or no, Adonis. If you are a superior bodybuilder then you should be able to defeat me very easily.
was this ever answered???
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was this ever answered???
ya i remember him saying he doesn't want to support the federation like the NPC by paying the competiton fee's
lol vince droped out though..so it wouldn't matter anyways
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ya i remember him saying he doesn't want to support the federation like the NPC by paying the competiton fee's
lol vince droped out though..so it wouldn't matter anyways
thanks, didn't know vince dropped out...I wanted to see this happen...
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Here we are discussing the aftermath of the Olympia and that bum Goodrum still gets attention. I can't believe that guy can generate laughs seemingly endlessly.
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Venom Vince is the man.
The true Mr.Getbig.
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Venom Vince is the man.
The true Mr.Getbig.
The true Mr Universe too, like Oliva! :D
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ya i remember him saying he doesn't want to support the federation like the NPC by paying the competiton fee's
lol vince droped out though..so it wouldn't matter anyways
Actually, I'm dropping back in. Staph is clearing up and I'm didn't have any real problems training and doing cardio today. So I'll be onstage in November
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Cool Hand Goodrum back on stage! He is consistent to a fault. Put away your Tony Robbins tapes and stop dreaming. You guys had better capture his next performance.
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Actually, I'm dropping back in. Staph is clearing up and I'm didn't have any real problems training and doing cardio today. So I'll be onstage in November
At the Elite?
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Actually, I'm dropping back in. Staph is clearing up and I'm didn't have any real problems training and doing cardio today. So I'll be onstage in November
The most selfless entertainer I have ever known.
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Actually, I'm dropping back in. Staph is clearing up and I'm didn't have any real problems training and doing cardio today. So I'll be onstage in November
When you say that you'd do cardio... do you actually sweat?
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Hey, Keith, don't you think it is time to give your mate Goodrum a call and sort things out?
1-888-275-1323
Basile, are you giving out other people's personal information?
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No, that is his business contact number on his site. I tried to call but that number isn't available outside the USA.
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bump!
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No, that is his business contact number on his site. I tried to call but that number isn't available outside the USA.
you shouldnt really give out his # without consent :-\
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When you say that you'd do cardio... do you actually sweat?
LOL.
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Mountaineer Figure Division: Vince G Is One Creepy Mofo!
"My gf did the figure and confirmed evderything Storm and the others said about backstage. She said he was bouncing around, getting pumped up over the course of more than 2 hours! She said "I don't know why he bothered, I didn't think you could get a pump in fat!"
She also said Vince is one creepy mofo and the figure girls that weren't laughing at him were genuinely scared of him."
"First off you werent helpin anyone- you were just in the way-dont try to paint a picture of some generous dude backstage, there were plenty of people oiling up folks backstage- I was layin there chillin for at leat an hour b4 I got on stage, you sir are fantasizing all this. It's not my job to help oil people up allthough I ended up doin that for someone I know at the night show. But I think most competitors dont want someone oiling them up who isnt there for that sole purpose. Im sure that NOONE wanted your help.
Quit lying."
"All my pics were of the night show..As I said he moved so darn much during his routine I couldn't get a still focused shot of him..Guys he really has something wrong with him but needless to say he asked for the heat..For him to brag about being a expert in nutrition it is fckd up he keeps showing up to shows like this.
The white trucks were a bit much and Viola is def living in some minboggling built little world that swirls around in that skull of his..If you were to hear him talk you would think he had a little suger in his tank very girly and his damn kness locking back like a highschool cheeleader makes you wonder how many fields he plays on.."
Originally Posted by Vince Goodrum, CSN
Thought I'd drop one last line before I'm off on vacation.
First off, I didn't pump up for 2 hours straight. I simply keep pumped from time to time since the Jr class went on late. And yes I was using my push up bars and most of the other competitors were using them as well to including Storm who problably didn't realize that they belong to me. I also let people borrow the extra Hot Stuff, Posing Oil, Bronze Cream, toning bands, that I brought along as well. I'm sure that you used my push-up bars as well because everyone else did. Some of you folks like yourself Aido refused to help any competitors put any oil on when the help staff wasn't there yet. I did however gave a hand and took care of some of the folks.
You folks can call me asshole on the internet boards but in real life, I'm actually a nice guy who isn't an asshole in not people use any stuff I have.
Even if competitors were laughing behind my back, so what?? Only cowards do things like that. I would seriously doubt that happenned as most of them thanked me for giving them a hand in putting on their posing oil or letting them borrow my supplies or equipment. If they did have an issue with me beyond that, then they have issue that go beyond me.
I sorry if you folks don't understand but none of you will never stop me no matter what you say about me. You can put up morphed pictures, make horrible comments, talk about my family...etc. Doesn't matter. I feed off your hatred and obsession with me. The more you talk, the bigger and better I get. I take it all to the gym and release that negative energy through the weights.
Eventually, I will be a destroyer on the bodybuilding stage and that's something you'll have to deal with because it will come together one day for me. I was better this year than in 2004 and even though I'm my own worst critic, I'm still glad that I was better and I'll continue the training and next time be even better than before. And I will do it drug-free without the use of steroids.
My spirit and soul is too powerful to ever yield to the negative remarks anyone makes and it is the only thing I need to become a great bodybuilder. It will happen because I will make it so.
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LOL! he is one creepy SOB :o