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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Lee_a_priest on October 01, 2006, 10:26:29 AM
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Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...
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jay's victory speech:
why was it not a spontaneous effusion of the "thank you jesus/kerry/mom and dad" kind, but rather a carefully crafted political statement?
was there a need for a more eloquent spokesperson that was met yesterday? I guess in times of trouble you need more than "Jay be smoking that crack again."
Dex can't speak worth a damn, can Victor?
is melvin anthony respected in bb circles?
the IFBB, a place where dreams can come true.
but you need a profile that includes a lot more than meets the eye.
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I don't think Weider made him say that, I think Jay knew he could possibly get a bonus for saying that.
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Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...
Jay will be the spokesman and standard bearer that the IFBB pro div needed at this point. By pulling off the upset over the legend Ronnie Coleman, it shows that the IFBB is still the top , viable organization.Ronnie was and still is a great bodybuilder, but times change.
I respect Wayne Damillia and what he has done for bodybuilding, but with this recent result and showing, the IFBB has too much talent and production value on stage to lose their status as top dog.
Howard
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IFBB is Jays choice, it has been good for him he supports it and was just stating the obvious that MR O is top dog.
Who's in the PDI again??
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It is very interesting that Jay would say that....seems like something like the PDI vs IFBB feud would be the last thing on his mind at such a huge personal moment for him.
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Puppet.
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It is very interesting that Jay would say that....seems like something like the PDI vs IFBB feud would be the last thing on his mind at such a huge personal moment for you.
Yes, but it was on many fans minds. With the incredible physiques on this OLympia stage and Jays endorsement, this cements it for the IFBB.
The PDI is a decent concept but unless they get an equal share of the top bodybuilders, they will remain 2nd rate.
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jay has gone on record many times before as saying the ifbb is the big leauges when it comes to bodybuilding, and went so far as to call the pdi a "high school team"
i dont find it odd at all that jay thanks the ifbb. he BELIEVES it is the better organization.
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What EXACTLY did Jay SAY?!
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Lee, did you get in the show to watch? what happened at the expo with you, do elaborate.
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What EXACTLY did Jay SAY?!
all he did was say that "in competitive organizations, the ifbb is where it's at."
like no one knew that.
now conspiracy theorists think it was all scripted.
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I love how Bob "snickers" at the PDI.....
Honestly.....how does he have room to "snicker" at any organization.
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Not sure if Jay deserved to win or not but I bet the IFBB had something to do with it. What this placing does is put a little more life into the failing IFBB. Now they have something to talk about. If Ronnie won again it would have been boring and continue the downfall. Now with Jay winning there is something new to look at.
ANd I bet Ronnie was told this and got paid enough where he made more than what he would have made if he won. Next year he will come back and take the title back. Everything has already been planned. Why do you think Ronnie was looking like that during the decision. He already knew. EVeryone thought he might retire this year after winning. But,now he can do a comeback and do what Arnold did. All planned out perfectly by the IFBB. WHy were the score exactly the opposite for last year but in Jays favor instead of Ronnie's
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See I think this is bullshit. Onlyme Rob and all the other PDI guys are claiming a fix as this is going to make it ALOT harder for them to succeed. I like the PDI. I hope it succeeds. I think the ifbb can be shysters. I also think you guys are the same people bashing the IFBB for screwing cutler in 01. You guys would be the same ones screaming how shitty the ifbb is and how cutler should have won had Ronnie taken the show. And how people should come on over to the PDI ::). I hope the PDI succeeds and I hope big name pros go over there. Stop shitting on Cutlers win for your own gains. Use some true bullshit events. Not one where he clearly won the contest.
Guys the first pdi show was cool. But if you think the IFBB is scared enough of that federation to alter the MR O you are in lala land. Jay won. Many top pros and people in the industry had him in first the whole time. Stop acting like this is some kind of big bullshit fix like when franco won.
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Stop shitting on Cutlers win for your own gains.
well said
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Lee...Do you agree with the results of the show?
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Jesus is on the IFBB payroll?
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No PPV for what is supposed to be your organizations premium event = garbage
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Jesus is on the IFBB payroll?
i think he got fired last night. :(
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Here's a question:
If there was no PDI, who would have won the O last night?
Ronnie or Jay?
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Lee Priest
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Here's a question:
If there was no PDI, who would have won the O last night?
Ronnie or Jay?
You and I should both try to be more proactive about getting somewhere in this industry. Think about it - we're smarter than pretty well everyone who runs the show currently and we don't restrict speech and give in to corruption and politics ($).
Honestly, let's get a few websites on the go and feed off our traffic. Who is to say we can't be way up there as far as a platform to be heard in quick time? I think we can.
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Here's a question:
If there was no PDI, who would have won the O last night?
Ronnie or Jay?
Easy... Jay cutler. I wonder what you guys would be saying if Cutler had lost?
"See guys!!! The ifbb is a bunch of scum! Jay deserved this win! Great reason to come on over to the pdi!"
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Easy... Jay cutler. I wonder what you guys would be saynig if Cutler had lost?
"See guys!!! The ifbb is a bunch of scum! Jay deserved this win! Great reason to come on over to the pdi!"
no we wouldn't
;D
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didn't jay say "the IFBB is the only place you can win Mr. Olympia"?
If so then he is dead right.
but the PDI is the only place you can win The NOC!
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The fact is you guys where banking on Cutler getting fucked to make the pdi look like the place to be over the Ifbb. jay shows up looking crazy gets a fairly judged show and you guys feel screwed because it breaths new life into the ifbb.
I hope the pdi succeeds. I am rooting for it. But do not taint Cutler win with shit for your own gains.
You can find plenty of things the ifbb does without claiming a deserved win by cutler was a fix due to the ifbb being scared of the pdi.
It could be cool someday to see the best from the pdi battle the best from the ifbb. I wish you guys success. I just do not agree with the theory you present.
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Yeah..Jay has how many homes ..hummers, mercedes, bmws ,jaguars, at various times, travels the world, has an awesome wife, and is financially set for life after bb'ing.....and you guys bust his balls for not biting the hand that feeds him? At the end of the road you assholes are the same ones who post that wow Dorian looks small now....Get all you can Jay because this sport forgets you the second you retire anyway. You may as well at least be financially set after risking your health and sacrificing for so long....... Lets all go into work tomorrow and tell our bosses to fuck off and see how far it gets us. Jealous ,angry, people who hide behind being "My own Man". Play the game, and make your dough...thats the way life works boys, in any occupation. To Jay...This is a business.
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See I think this is bullshit. Onlyme Rob and all the other PDI guys are claiming a fix as this is going to make it ALOT harder for them to succeed. I like the PDI. I hope it succeeds. I think the ifbb can be shysters. I also think you guys are the same people bashing the IFBB for screwing cutler in 01. You guys would be the same ones screaming how shitty the ifbb is and how cutler should have won had Ronnie taken the show. And how people should come on over to the PDI ::). I hope the PDI succeeds and I hope big name pros go over there. Stop shitting on Cutlers win for your own gains. Use some true bullshit events. Not one where he clearly won the contest.
Guys the first pdi show was cool. But if you think the IFBB is scared enough of that federation to alter the MR O you are in lala land. Jay won. Many top pros and people in the industry had him in first the whole time. Stop acting like this is some kind of big bullshit fix like when franco won.
Great post...I agree!!
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Yeah..Jay has how many homes ..hummers, mercedes, bmws ,jaguars, at various times, travels the world, has an awesome wife, and is financially set for life after bb'ing.....and you guys bust his balls for not biting the hand that feeds him? At the end of the road you assholes are the same ones who post that wow Dorian looks small now....Get all you can Jay because this sport forgets you the second you retire anyway. You may as well at least be financially set after risking your health and sacrificing for so long....... Lets all go into work tomorrow and tell our bosses to f**k off and see how far it gets us. Jealous ,angry, people who hide behind being "My own Man". Play the game, and make your dough...thats the way life works boys, in any occupation. To Jay...This is a business.
Awesome post Old Skool! ;)
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Yeah..Jay has how many homes ..hummers, mercedes, bmws ,jaguars, at various times, travels the world, has an awesome wife, and is financially set for life after bb'ing.....and you guys bust his balls for not biting the hand that feeds him? At the end of the road you assholes are the same ones who post that wow Dorian looks small now....Get all you can Jay because this sport forgets you the second you retire anyway. You may as well at least be financially set after risking your health and sacrificing for so long....... Lets all go into work tomorrow and tell our bosses to f**k off and see how far it gets us. Jealous ,angry, people who hide behind being "My own Man". Play the game, and make your dough...thats the way life works boys, in any occupation. To Jay...This is a business.
amen. congrats big brother. i told you this was your year.
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I hope the PDI succeeds too. From what I've seen, Jay won last night. No question. And Jay is intelligent and probably wanted to capitalize on the IFBB/PDI thing to show his loyalty and the fact that he pays attention to whats going on in the industry. Every time I've corresponded with Ronnie about anything other than lifting heavy weights and eating grits he's shown complete ignorance. Nothing against the guy, he's a great bodybulder and from what I've heard a really great guy, but he is not smart or well spoken. Hell, even BSN has said that he can't speak worth a damn, and he's their spokesman. And when you think about it, the more the IFBB goes on the defensive against the PDI, the more competition there is and the more both of them get talked about. If the IFBB didn't say shit about the PDI it would not be as controversial and talked about as it is now. Everyone who defends the PDI says competition is good for business. I agree. And the IFBB is doing everythng they can to create that competition. I don't know whether it's intentional or not, but it is working, everyone's talking about it.
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Yeah..Jay has how many homes ..hummers, mercedes, bmws ,jaguars, at various times, travels the world, has an awesome wife, and is financially set for life after bb'ing.....and you guys bust his balls for not biting the hand that feeds him? At the end of the road you assholes are the same ones who post that wow Dorian looks small now....Get all you can Jay because this sport forgets you the second you retire anyway. You may as well at least be financially set after risking your health and sacrificing for so long....... Lets all go into work tomorrow and tell our bosses to f**k off and see how far it gets us. Jealous ,angry, people who hide behind being "My own Man". Play the game, and make your dough...thats the way life works boys, in any occupation. To Jay...This is a business.
Post of the decade!
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Hey whether Jay won or not the scenario of what I said is not beyond what the IFBB would do. That is a fact. I just find it humorus that in the other years that people thought Jay won Ronnie won. And now the PDI is off the ground and so many things are happening and the fact that some IFBB pros are and will consider coming over to the PDI that this happens. I mean I wonder how many guys are now thinkinig wowo Jay won maybe I have a chance now at the Olympia and hang in there for another year to try next year. I have a feeling that many different IFBB pros are going to start winning some money just so they stay in the IFBB.
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Seriously.....
How many Pro's have we heard wanting to go over to the PDI?
I can't say I heard of that many.
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What would you have said if Ronnie was to beat Cutler for the O this year?
You would have used it as an opportunity to bash the ifbb for unfair judging and promoted the pdi. Used it as evidence that pros should jump ship to a fair origination.
I hope the pdi succeeds but you guys need to stop using the ifbb as an example of why pros should join. They know the deal.
why is there no theory that the ifbb is scared of the pdi so they judged a show fair for once in there life. It is automatically a fake set up. I would be willing to bet this is 100 percent speculation and you have no proof.
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If the PDI hadn't touched a nerve in the IFBB, nobody would have been banned from competing in its shows, no press cards would have been pulled, & nothing would have been said about it (indirectly) at the finals. That it has gotten this reaction suggests its importance & potential value in pro bodybuilding.
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Yeah..Jay has how many homes ..hummers, mercedes, bmws ,jaguars, at various times, travels the world, has an awesome wife, and is financially set for life after bb'ing.....and you guys bust his balls for not biting the hand that feeds him? At the end of the road you assholes are the same ones who post that wow Dorian looks small now....Get all you can Jay because this sport forgets you the second you retire anyway. You may as well at least be financially set after risking your health and sacrificing for so long....... Lets all go into work tomorrow and tell our bosses to f**k off and see how far it gets us. Jealous ,angry, people who hide behind being "My own Man". Play the game, and make your dough...thats the way life works boys, in any occupation. To Jay...This is a business.
Great post, skool.....I wish I wrote it!
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Hey whether Jay won or not the scenario of what I said is not beyond what the IFBB would do. That is a fact. I just find it humorus that in the other years that people thought Jay won Ronnie won. And now the PDI is off the ground and so many things are happening and the fact that some IFBB pros are and will consider coming over to the PDI that this happens. I mean I wonder how many guys are now thinkinig wowo Jay won maybe I have a chance now at the Olympia and hang in there for another year to try next year. I have a feeling that many different IFBB pros are going to start winning some money just so they stay in the IFBB.
Was Ronnie comming in looking garbage part of the IFBB conspricy as well?
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[..Get all you can Jay because this sport forgets you the second you retire anyway.
[/quote] ...take Lee Haney...here's a guy that won 8 Mr.O's and half the guys on getbig don't even know who he is...Flex magazine give him a one page question and answer in the back of their rag...You sure don't see any Muscle Tech ads with his mug...he pretty much is forgotten :(
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[..Get all you can Jay because this sport forgets you the second you retire anyway.
...take Lee Haney...here's a guy that won 8 Mr.O's and half the guys on getbig don't even know who he is...Flex magazine give him a one page question and answer in the back of their rag...You sure don't see any Muscle Tech ads with his mug...he pretty much is forgotten :(
This is true. I was with Sergio Oliva for about 5 hours sitting him at the ASC in 2003 and people would look over and I could read their lips. Half of them were saying "who is that" to their friends. then they would look down on the table and see all hisposters and finally realize it was Sergio. Then they would go crazy and come over and talk to him. It's too bad that the IFBB doesn't take care of the guys who made them. I mean they should give veterens some kind of pension plan or medical benefits when they retire. Especially at least the Mr. Olympias. They should have medical paid for their rest of their lives and a pension. I mean they have made BB and the IFBB. Every BB should treat BB as a business. That is a great thing. WHich means they should be able to go after any means to make money. That is why the IFBB rule of banning is bullshit. These guys risks their lives for nothing. At least let them make some money along the way.
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at the ASC in 2003 and people would look over and I could read their lips. Half of them were saying "who is that" to their friends.
Keith....they were talking about you
lol
just teasing
;D
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I'm going to make it a point to cover the PDI as deeply as possible on my website from now on. Just to spite these dumb fucking pricks who have the nerve to think speech can be restricted.
That's only - what - 100,000+ unique people a month - just as many people read my site as there are who read Muscular Development.
DUMB FUCKS!
If I was Ryan Deluca I would be FUCKING you so hard right now it wouldn't even be funny.
Just watch out who you assholes piss off - you never know who will get somewhere in this industry later on and put it right back in your face.
who is Ryan Deluca?
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I support the right of the PDI to exist and I also feel Ronnie was off and, going by the criteria the IFBB uses, that Jay should have won.
That said, I'd be happier with a Dexter or Victor win and I hope Ronnie either 1) comes back to win next year, proving he was just off--although the lat and tricep tear and the years of drug abuse to the point where your body just stops responding like it once did speak against this, or...
2) Ronnie retires now and doesn't return like Samir and others to get owned year after year.
As far as Victor being next Mr. O... he's got to show us more than he can get in shape once every three years before he gets the nod.
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All Jay had to do is send an e-mail to the judges saying he would go PDI if he didn't win and they would have given it to him.
Could you imagine if Jay went to the PDI? Or any of the top 10 guys for that matter? Look at the ruckus Lee caused.
You just lost all credibility with that garbage. You sound like a few other posters. Funny how people on this site get into little groups and sound like one another in every post. You used to think for yourself and be unbiased.
You said Jay was "wider". His back is freking crazy. You know it, I know it and the judges knew it. Look at this picture. Stop being a little sour hater and admit the facts. Jay looked sick. Ronnie was off. Jay won.
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You and I should both try to be more proactive about getting somewhere in this industry. Think about it - we're smarter than pretty well everyone who runs the show currently and we don't restrict speech and give in to corruption and politics ($).
Honestly, let's get a few websites on the go and feed off our traffic. Who is to say we can't be way up there as far as a platform to be heard in quick time? I think we can.
you got that right.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=91122.0
I'm not saying it happened - but if he had done that it would have happened.
You where indirectly saying it happened. When has Jay been anything but a professional at any point in his career. You really think he would do that? You think a guy that works that hard would not want to win it with hard work and determination?
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Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...
Hey Lee, hope you enjoyed the Olympia. I'm glad Jay said that because quite frankly the PDI is nothing more than a bunch of smoke and mirrors which people that have as much right to being called Pro Bodybuilders as I do.
Samir didn't get his free tickets??? So what?? He can buy them himself, its not like he's broke or anything like that.
Raymond's press pass getting pulled....good....Should n't be advertising for the PDI or maybe my warning I posted months ago wasn't heard. I told you folks what would happen if you started spouting off that PDI crap at the Olympia. I got good sources on my info, bro. You're just lucky you didn't say squat about the PDI at the booth or you may have been thrown out
You getting dissed by Melvin. So what?? You put his name in the mix on the boards last month, remember. He's just returning the favor.
Jay making the statement about the IFBB being the only place to compete....good for him. He knows the real deal.
Vince Galanti, Vince Taylor, TJ...they all smartened up when they saw between the lies. The only reason you're competing in the PDI is because its easy money for you to beat some rank amatuers,
That's the way it is Lee, deal with it
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This thread is so stupid. Every single guy in this thread was hoping to milk the fact that jay was screwed over again to promote the pdi.
I find it funny Jay looks amazing while Ronnie is off and these guys are acting like this is the O Franco won on a fix.
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This is all Lee has left...
Cheap shots at the IFBB.
Next thing you know he will be standing in line behind Onlyme in the buffet blaming the IFBB for all the missing PDI t-shirts.
Your "Blaze of Glory" fizzled Lee. Go back to driving and fade away. Stop pretending you care.
FYI: There were more people standing in line to see Ronnie Coleman then there were at the NOC, comp tickets included. Who's ship is sinking?
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Jay is now the spokesman for the IFBB. He assumed that role with his win. His message? If you want to win the Olympia and fulfill your dreams then do what I did and stay with the IFBB because that is the only way you can win it.
DeMilia was an IFBB man for eons and it is a pity they let a good promoter go. We will see how things develop but the Olympia is still THE contest to win and the silence at the press conference where NOT ONE competitor supported Lee is sobering. No one is risking his chances in the Olympia. End of story so far.
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Every pro I know has *zero* interest in going to the PDI.
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....first off, Lee....you're too funny. Just cause you can't win the Mr O, don't slag on Jay for sticking up for his federation. I'm sure you'll win EVERY damn PDI show from now till it fades into obscurity. The PDI will always be a second tier organization....I mean, how many big leagues do you have in ANY sport? ....ONE. The rest are just second best, and if you wanna compete for second best, then go ahead and compete in the PDI.
I would give the PDI the time of day if it was ANY different than the PDI, but their judging criteria is the SAME as the IFBB...just on a lesser quality of physique. So until Phil Heath goes to the PDI.....the day a TRULY good physique wins a PDI show over what they have already displayed as a trophy winning physique, that'll be the day I pay attention...ie, not some bloated mass monster taking the top prize. And that WILL happen, the day Lee decides not to compete.
Secondly, 240, the PDI has no impact on the IFBB. Jay was just saying what was on his mind. That's all...and now that he's on top, all the power to him. The rest of the years show's can be about symmetry and all that, but the Mr O will always be about the biggest and most ripped. I've gotten over it....have you?
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Hey Lee, hope you enjoyed the Olympia. I'm glad Jay said that because quite frankly the PDI is nothing more than a bunch of smoke and mirrors which people that have as much right to being called Pro Bodybuilders as I do.
Samir didn't get his free tickets??? So what?? He can buy them himself, its not like he's broke or anything like that.
Raymond's press pass getting pulled....good....Should n't be advertising for the PDI or maybe my warning I posted months ago wasn't heard. I told you folks what would happen if you started spouting off that PDI crap at the Olympia. I got good sources on my info, bro. You're just lucky you didn't say squat about the PDI at the booth or you may have been thrown out
You getting dissed by Melvin. So what?? You put his name in the mix on the boards last month, remember. He's just returning the favor.
Jay making the statement about the IFBB being the only place to compete....good for him. He knows the real deal.
Vince Galanti, Vince Taylor, TJ...they all smartened up when they saw between the lies. The only reason you're competing in the PDI is because its easy money for you to beat some rank amatuers,
That's the way it is Lee, deal with it
DAMN LEE...NOW VINCE GOODRUM IS BASHING YOU.....LOL
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Secondly, 240, the PDI has no impact on the IFBB. Jay was just saying what was on his mind.
so the man just made history - the 11th man to be called mr olympia, dethroned an 8 time mr olympia, after years of trying (coming in 2nd 4 times)
and the only thing on his mind is that the PDI doesn't offer/have the mr. olympia title???
why does he even care about the pdi?
why is he mentioning something that is "so insignificant" during his moment of glory??
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You where indirectly saying it happened. When has Jay been anything but a professional at any point in his career. You really think he would do that? You think a guy that works that hard would not want to win it with hard work and determination?
I'm saying it could have happened like that if Jay wanted it to. I'm not saying it's in Jay's character to do so, but he has the power to do that if he wanted to and have that type of impact. He is a very important pro in the IFBB.
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you know what they say about looking gift horses in the mouth
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Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.
Geezus. Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? Talk about the IFBB being anal.
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Geezus. Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? Talk about the IFBB being anal.
This wasn't an IFBB deal. AMI promotes the Olympia. AMI distributes press passes. AMI prints Flex and Muscle and Fitness, promotion of the PDI is taking money out of Pecker's pocket, so not a big surprise.
If you going to point fingers, try and point them at the correct parties.
The IFBB is not GOD or lightning would have struck the NOC instead of lousy physiques!
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This wasn't an IFBB deal. AMI promotes the Olympia. AMI distributes press passes. AMI prints Flex and Muscle and Fitness, promotion of the PDI is taking money out of Pecker's pocket, so not a big surprise.
If you going to point fingers, try and point them at the correct parties.
The IFBB is not GOD or lightning would have struck the NOC instead of lousy physiques!
You don't think the IFBB has absolutely nothing to do with the crap that may run within the federation with no influence? Doubtful....
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You don't think the IFBB has absolutely nothing to do with the crap that may run within the federation with no influence? Doubtful....
Influence Yes, I agree. But it just boils down to a sound business decision from AMI. If the PDI fails, it is more money in their pocket. So why wouldn't they punish those who think otherwise? It just so happens that this parallels the IFBB wishes as well. I am a Bodybuilding fan and the best of the best will be in the IFBB, and that is what I want to pay to see, so I support them.
The PDI has nothing to offer, damn most of the people on stage wouldn't even make the top ranks of NABBA, WABBA, NPC or whatever. If the arrogance of the PDIdiots tuned it down and stopped calling it a pro league I might even give them a closer look but outside of a small handful, nobody on that stage was PRO caliber.
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You have to think why so many of these guys hold onto the thought that one day they will be Mr Olympia when history has shown only a few will ever get to win.Jay will go down in history as did Franco,Samir and Dickerson as a one time winner.2007 will be ????.
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Influence Yes, I agree. But it just boils down to a sound business decision from AMI. If the PDI fails, it is more money in their pocket. So why wouldn't they punish those who think otherwise? It just so happens that this parallels the IFBB wishes as well. I am a Bodybuilding fan and the best of the best will be in the IFBB, and that is what I want to pay to see, so I support them.
The PDI has nothing to offer, damn most of the people on stage wouldn't even make the top ranks of NABBA, WABBA, NPC or whatever. If the arrogance of the PDIdiots tuned it down and stopped calling it a pro league I might even give them a closer look but outside of a small handful, nobody on that stage was PRO caliber.
Agreed.
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Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...
what is happening to you lee.? what is happening to you?
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Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...
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Of course the IFBB is worried thats why they talk shit about the PDI. I can see some pros coming over to the PDI once they dont get the placing they want/deserve. I didn't hear the speech but someone had to tell Jay to say that shit, otherwise why would he?
BTW Lee, I just purchased your "It's not Revenge" DVD.
Chris
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Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...
tsk...
conspiracy theeres.....bush had nuttin to do with 9...i mean the ifbb had othing to do with the o man...its stupid...it just dosen't happen...
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There is no conspiracy to speak of regarding Raymond having his press pass revoked for covering the PDI. That is plain and simple factual monopolistic bullshit.
I can't believe these IFBB morons stating they (the IFBB) are not worried about the PDI or are doing things to either stop the progress or advancement of the PDI. Are you really that stupid and blind or are you just doing it to score points. The PDI is on their mind everyday. Manion is shitting. You don't think he reads (or someone reads to him) what people say. If the PDI wasn't a potential problem to the IFBB then they would ignore anything they did. But they don't, they pull press passes, have an IFBB idiot show up to the NOC, tell people what questions to ask at a press conference. Face it guys the IFBB is full with a bunch of pussies and in the end they will lose. So far they have done nothing but show their true colors and have lost allot of fans. ANd in the future they will lose allot of current pros and potential pros.
And Melvin stay out of a discussion that you have no idea what you are talking about. You have proven you are full ofshit and basically waste bandwidth.
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Hey, Keith, I enjoy Goodrum's contributions. I am not saying he has status here but he isn't afraid to speak his mind which is what you are doing.
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Exactly. Proof of the IFBB being worried about the PDI is also why they need to ban speech about the PDI in press. Is this the free market or a socialist commune? ::)
Fucking idiots. Do you think we wouldn't have that figured out?
IFBB stooges: please stop insulting my intelligence. It's much greater than yours.
PS - my review for Lee's DVD is up here:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/leepriesttitans7dvd.html
I read it, that's what made me decide to get it.