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Title: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:21:05 AM
http://www.tinerino.com/

April 2010
There has been much speculation as to the health and welfare of Dennis Tinerino. We thought it might be best to post this letter, which was recently sent by pastor Graham Cathers to friends and ministry partners:

Dear Friends,

I hope this letter finds you blessed and doing well in this New Year. I wanted to take just a moment of your time to talk about a mutual friend of ours, Dennis Tinerino.

You may or may not know that Dennis was diagnosed with an inoperable tumor last year. The first reports seemed hopeful for a full recovery, but since that since that time the mass has increased and a change in the medication was prescribed, which has stopped working.

I’ve had the privilege of being Dennis and Anita’s pastor over the past several years, and they are the real deal. They are two of the most generous people I’ve ever met with their time, compassion, and resources.

Dennis is a prophet and evangelist who lives by preaching the Gospel. God has led him to cut back on his itinerant ministry in order to spend intimate time with the Lord in prayer, standing for his healing. This cuts back on his income to keep the ministry going.

While his health insurance covers some of the expenses, many of the doctors’ visits, x-rays, procedures, and prescriptions are not covered. As his friend, I would like to ask you to consider helping him in two ways:

First, would you have your intercessory prayer ministry begin to uphold Dennis at this time for his complete recover? I know Dennis and Anita would be grateful for your partnership in this capacity.

Second, would it be possible for you or your church to assist Dennis with these ongoing expenses? Should you want to help with a love offering, Dennis and Anita would be most grateful.


Thanks again for your friendship and partnership in ministry.

In His love,

Pastor Graham Cathers
Living Faith Christian Church


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:24:31 AM
This is just sad. To have be reduced to begging despite the fact that he actually has health insurance.

http://www.tinerino.com/

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Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 10:32:00 AM
I know one person who won't be making a donation.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 10:35:06 AM
I don't why Ron let you out....all you do it post (cut and paste) just to get your ass pwned time and time again..LOL!


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:38:47 AM
I don't why Ron let you out....all you do it post (cut and paste) just to get your ass pwned time and time again..LOL!
???

So you are just fine with this scenario you sick human being? 


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 10:42:26 AM
???

So you are just fine with this scenario you sick human being? 

Not the brightest bulb in room are ya?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 10:50:19 AM
I don't why Ron let you out....all you do it post (cut and paste) just to get your ass pwned time and time again..LOL!
The irony of this post is on a scale Cecil B DeMille couldn't fathom.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: emn1964 on April 19, 2010, 10:53:47 AM
The Coach comes to a battle of wits unarmed


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:54:54 AM
The Coach comes to a battle of wits unarmed
And De-brained.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: emn1964 on April 19, 2010, 10:56:29 AM
And De-brained.

That implies that he had a brain at one time...


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: tbombz on April 19, 2010, 10:59:30 AM
both of you know that Joe has a brain.








 ;D












Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pluck on April 19, 2010, 11:03:34 AM
Adonis, I thought you were an atheist?

Surely, god will help this guy???

"Dennis is a prophet and evangelist who lives by preaching the Gospel. God has led him to cut back on his itinerant ministry in order to spend intimate time with the Lord in prayer, standing for his healing. This cuts back on his income to keep the ministry going."

The above quote is so fucking asinine. A prophet and evangelist? hahahahahaaha seriously people. Wake up.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 11:08:15 AM
Adonis, I thought you were an atheist?

Surely, god will help this guy???

"Dennis is a prophet and evangelist who lives by preaching the Gospel. God has led him to cut back on his itinerant ministry in order to spend intimate time with the Lord in prayer, standing for his healing. This cuts back on his income to keep the ministry going."

The above quote is so fucking asinine. A prophet and evangelist? hahahahahaaha seriously people. Wake up.
I don`t believe in god and I also don`t believe in human suffering, especially when it is unnecessary and completely avoidable.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 11:10:41 AM
God liberals have absolutely NO commonsense to speak of.



Obama Health Plan Draws Majority Disapproval in Poll (Update1)
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By Kristin Jensen

Aug. 5 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s effort to revamp the U.S. health-care system is drawing increasing disapproval from Americans worried about higher deficits, a Quinnipiac University poll shows.

The July 27-Aug. 3 poll found that 52 percent of American voters disapprove of the way Obama is handling the health-care issue and 39 percent approve. That’s a switch from the 46 percent who approved and 42 percent who disapproved in late June, the university’s polling institute said.

Almost three-quarters of the respondents said they don’t believe Obama’s promise that Congress can pass a health-care measure without adding to the budget deficit. And 57 percent say the legislation should be dropped if it adds “significantly” to the deficit, Quinnipiac said.

“It’s obviously a problem for the people who are trying to push health-care reform,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Hamden, Connecticut-based polling institute, in an interview with Bloomberg Television. “The White House and Democratic leadership are very concerned that the month of August not become the time when the plan died.”

The House of Representatives left Washington on July 31 for a five-week recess after putting off a vote on legislation until September. One of the two Senate committees with jurisdiction over health care is still struggling to craft bipartisan legislation, and the Senate also gave up on meeting Obama’s goal of passing the measure in August.

Persuading Voters

House and Senate lawmakers are grappling with issues such as whether to create a government-run health-care plan that would compete with private insurers, whether to mandate that employers offer health insurance to their workers, and how to pay for a plan that may cost $1 trillion over 10 years.

House Democrats are now trying to persuade voters in their home districts that the effort to cover millions of uninsured Americans and reduce health-care costs is worthwhile; the poll suggests they have a lot of work to do.

“The average voter out there is skeptical about government,” Brown told reporters in Washington today.

Affecting Care

A plurality of 39 percent of respondents said they don’t think proposed changes would affect their own care, while 36 percent said the legislation would hurt the quality of their care and 21 percent said they would expect an improvement. Almost three-fifths say Congress shouldn’t pass a health-care measure unless it receives at least some Republican support.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs yesterday accused a group opposing the health-care overhaul plan of disrupting town-hall meetings convened by Democratic lawmakers by “manufacturing” outrage.

Leaders of Conservatives for Patients’ Rights, which has staged rallies against Obama’s health-care plan, “have bragged about organizing and manufacturing” anger expressed at the public meetings, Gibbs told reporters.

Richard Scott, the group’s chairman, said in a statement that “no one needs to manufacture anger or concern” because the American public “is threatened by a massive government takeover” of health care.

Some Approval

As other recent polls have shown, Quinnipiac found support for individual elements of the plans that Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress are proposing, even amid some disapproval.

The Quinnipiac poll showed that 62 percent of voters favor allowing Americans to opt into a government-run insurance program, compared with 32 percent who don’t. Three out of five respondents support subsidies to help lower-income Americans buy insurance, 61 percent support higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans to pay for the overhaul and 54 percent agree that employers should provide insurance or pay a penalty.

A requirement that individuals obtain insurance drew fire from respondents, with 68 percent opposed and 26 percent in favor. All the plans so far have some sort of mandate on Americans to obtain coverage, with help for those with lower incomes.

The poll included 2,409 registered voters nationwide and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.

To contact the reporter on this story: Kristin Jensen in Washington at kjensen@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: August 5, 2009 11:21 EDT


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 11:18:42 AM
I don't why Ron let you out....all you do it post (cut and paste) just to get your ass pwned time and time again..LOL!
^^^^^


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 11:22:25 AM
God liberals have absolutely NO commonsense to speak of.



Obama Health Plan Draws Majority Disapproval in Poll (Update1)
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By Kristin Jensen

Aug. 5 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s effort to revamp the U.S. health-care system is drawing increasing disapproval from Americans worried about higher deficits, a Quinnipiac University poll shows.

The July 27-Aug. 3 poll found that 52 percent of American voters disapprove of the way Obama is handling the health-care issue and 39 percent approve. That’s a switch from the 46 percent who approved and 42 percent who disapproved in late June, the university’s polling institute said.

Almost three-quarters of the respondents said they don’t believe Obama’s promise that Congress can pass a health-care measure without adding to the budget deficit. And 57 percent say the legislation should be dropped if it adds “significantly” to the deficit, Quinnipiac said.

“It’s obviously a problem for the people who are trying to push health-care reform,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Hamden, Connecticut-based polling institute, in an interview with Bloomberg Television. “The White House and Democratic leadership are very concerned that the month of August not become the time when the plan died.”

The House of Representatives left Washington on July 31 for a five-week recess after putting off a vote on legislation until September. One of the two Senate committees with jurisdiction over health care is still struggling to craft bipartisan legislation, and the Senate also gave up on meeting Obama’s goal of passing the measure in August.

Persuading Voters

House and Senate lawmakers are grappling with issues such as whether to create a government-run health-care plan that would compete with private insurers, whether to mandate that employers offer health insurance to their workers, and how to pay for a plan that may cost $1 trillion over 10 years.

House Democrats are now trying to persuade voters in their home districts that the effort to cover millions of uninsured Americans and reduce health-care costs is worthwhile; the poll suggests they have a lot of work to do.

“The average voter out there is skeptical about government,” Brown told reporters in Washington today.

Affecting Care

A plurality of 39 percent of respondents said they don’t think proposed changes would affect their own care, while 36 percent said the legislation would hurt the quality of their care and 21 percent said they would expect an improvement. Almost three-fifths say Congress shouldn’t pass a health-care measure unless it receives at least some Republican support.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs yesterday accused a group opposing the health-care overhaul plan of disrupting town-hall meetings convened by Democratic lawmakers by “manufacturing” outrage.

Leaders of Conservatives for Patients’ Rights, which has staged rallies against Obama’s health-care plan, “have bragged about organizing and manufacturing” anger expressed at the public meetings, Gibbs told reporters.

Richard Scott, the group’s chairman, said in a statement that “no one needs to manufacture anger or concern” because the American public “is threatened by a massive government takeover” of health care.

Some Approval

As other recent polls have shown, Quinnipiac found support for individual elements of the plans that Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress are proposing, even amid some disapproval.

The Quinnipiac poll showed that 62 percent of voters favor allowing Americans to opt into a government-run insurance program, compared with 32 percent who don’t. Three out of five respondents support subsidies to help lower-income Americans buy insurance, 61 percent support higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans to pay for the overhaul and 54 percent agree that employers should provide insurance or pay a penalty.

A requirement that individuals obtain insurance drew fire from respondents, with 68 percent opposed and 26 percent in favor. All the plans so far have some sort of mandate on Americans to obtain coverage, with help for those with lower incomes.

The poll included 2,409 registered voters nationwide and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.

To contact the reporter on this story: Kristin Jensen in Washington at kjensen@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: August 5, 2009 11:21 EDT
What is the point of posting this? I DO NOT Support A Profit Based Health Insurance system which is what Obama`s plan is.  Its no different than what you had last year, 20 years etc...Its just a tiny, tiny, bit better but it still keeps the Health Insurance companies at the forefront which means the profit motive is intact as they rack up by continually not covering care.


I do not support Obama`s plan. I support Universal Nationalized Single Payer Healthcare open to all.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 11:24:38 AM
^^^^^

Please Chimps, I've said this time and time again without a cut and paste. Thought I'd just back it up.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 11:26:11 AM
What is the point of posting this? I DO NOT Support A Profit Based Health Insurance system which is what Obama`s plan is.  Its no different than what you had last year, 20 years etc...Its just a tiny, tiny, bit better but it still keeps the Health Insurance companies at the forefront which means the profit motive is intact as they rack up by continually not covering care.


I do not support Obama`s plan. I support Universal Nationalized Single Payer Healthcare open to all.

This is how much of an idiot you are. Obama's "plan" is to steer us to single payer system. (That doesn't work)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 19, 2010, 11:27:16 AM
What are his specific health problems?  Are they related to a self-centered, self-destructive, un-healthy lifestyle that the vast majority of professional bodybuilders lead?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: benchmstr on April 19, 2010, 11:27:40 AM
ah getbig....were two people with the complete lack of independent thought can argue as a talk show host's mouth piece....your doing gods work ::)

bench


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 11:31:55 AM
This is how much of an idiot you are. Obama's "plan" is to steer us to single payer system. (That doesn't work)
Completely the opposite.  The Health Insurance companies now have 30 million more potential customers and they can still refuse to cover procedures and can also charge high costs if they want.


Obama`s plan is the same Plan Republicans favored in 1993 and is a Corporatist wet dream. 


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 19, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
What are his specific health problems?  Are they related to a self-centered, self-destructive, un-healthy lifestyle that the vast majority of professional bodybuilders lead?
I heard he was doing G4P back in the day could be hearsay not sure. I wish him the best.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: no one on April 19, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
I don`t believe in god and I also don`t believe in human suffering, especially when it is unnecessary and completely avoidable.

boo hoo.

 ::)
(http://blogs.trb.com/features/consumer/shopping/blog/211_kleenex.jpg)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 11:35:29 AM
boo hoo.

 ::)
(http://blogs.trb.com/features/consumer/shopping/blog/211_kleenex.jpg)

Your lack of empathy is sickening.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: buffdnet on April 19, 2010, 12:29:40 PM
Quote
I do not support Obama`s plan. I support Universal Nationalized Single Payer Healthcare forced on us all.
fixed.
idiot liberal parrot. go back to hanging out with tbombz and the other homosexuals


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 12:35:38 PM
fixed.
idiot liberal parrot. go back to hanging out with tbombz and the other homosexuals
With Single Payer, Universal Healthcare, the option to buy Private Insurance would still be available, if you are dumb enough to still want it or think that you will get something for your money (which you probably won`t).


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pluck on April 19, 2010, 01:12:08 PM
I don`t believe in god and I also don`t believe in human suffering, especially when it is unnecessary and completely avoidable.

avoidable? The tumor is inoperable & meds won't work. How is that avoidable???


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 01:25:19 PM
avoidable? The tumor is inoperable & meds won't work. How is that avoidable???
As stated he cannot pay for the treatment and a lot of it is not covered therefore he may not receive it.  Also, the burden will then fall to his family to pay out of pocket which they obviously cannot do, thus the cycle of medical bankruptcy continues.  A man at the end of his life and his family should not have to suffer more physically and mentally unnecessarily, especially when all of the above is remedied with a sensible Healthcare system.

His situation obviously is troubling for him and those around him if he is reduced to begging for Healthcare.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: SilverSpoon on April 19, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
TA, the letter refers to Dennis as a "prophet"? 

Also, I'll use your words:  "It wasn't like he was going to write Beethoven's Ninth Symphony".


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: TrueGrit on April 19, 2010, 01:31:33 PM
If he isn't going to compose Beethoven's ninth then I just don't care.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 01:34:36 PM
TA, the letter refers to Dennis as a "prophet"?  

Also, I'll use your words:  "It wasn't like he was going to write Beethoven's Ninth Symphony".
Thats only reserved for after his life is over and don`t you worry my friend, I plan to use that very same epitaph once that happens.

I agree that Mr. Tinerino is highly deluded and probably is very ignorant but I think if someone were willing to spend time with him, showing him facts and evidence, he may not persist in such juvenile thought and antics.  He probably has never been challenged on his nonsense before.

I also think once he realizes that Science is the only thing that can save or prolong his life, he will be more likely to drop the fairy tale, worthless wishful thinking.  Although I could be wishful thinking that he would have such a rational epiphany.  :-\  Either way, I`d rather him live as long as he can or at least with the least amount of suffering possible.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 01:36:03 PM
DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.

You mean the US system that producers virtually all of the medical technology and advancement that "free" health care systems all over the world leech off?  Oh right, that system.  ::)

Hey TA, they had free health care in the USSR too, how did that one work out again?  ::)

Free health care in Canada is great!

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Leaked+plan+proposes+cuts+surgeries+across+Metro+Vancouver/1878506/story.html


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 19, 2010, 01:36:25 PM
Thats only reserved for after his life is over and don`t you worry my friend, I plan to use that very same epitaph once that happens.

I agree that Mr. Tinerino is highly deluded and probably is very ignorant but I think if someone were willing to spend time with him, showing him facts and evidence, he may not persist in such juvenile thought and antics.  He probably has never been challenged on his nonsense before.

I also think once he realize that Science is the only thing that can save or prolong his life, he will be more likely to drop the fairy tale, worthless wishful thinking.  Although I could be wishful thinking that he would have such an epiphany.  Either way, I`d rather him live as long as he can or at least with the least amount of suffering possible.
How old is he? Maybe I missed it.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
You mean the US system that producers virtually all of the medical technology and advancement that "free" health care systems all over the world leech off?  Oh right, that system.  ::)

Hey TA, they had free health care in the USSR too, how did that one work out again?  ::)

Free health care in Canada is great!

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Leaked+plan+proposes+cuts+surgeries+across+Metro+Vancouver/1878506/story.html
The NIH, National Institute of Health, in the United States is responsible for most of our medical technological breakthroughs.  You don`t know anything when it comes to the United States and I doubt you ever will.  Hope this helps, my highly deluded, antisemitic irrational friend.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 02:01:13 PM
The True Adonis is absolutely typical of the Jews in 1917 who at 3% of the population were 50% of the communist revolution.  How did that one turn out again TA?  ::)  Wasn't it great that everyone had "equality"?  Wasn't it great that everyone was equally poor?  Equally starving?  Equally with bad medical care?  Equally shot in the back of the head by Jewish Bolsheviks if they dared to say anything against the state?

Equality isn't hard to achieve TA - take away everything everyone has and everyone will be equal - equally poor.  Do you understand that the technology produced below was only produced to begin with as a result of the capitalist financial incentives in place by the companies which produced them?  As for "free health care", Dennis gets plenty of free health care - in fact, he an army field medic today has the same quality of medical equipment as the best doctors and hospitals in 1800.  What happens in Canada if I need one of the 300 surgeries that were recently cut?  I also don't get care.  Some good it does to get "free" health care when you can't even get it because of socialist rationing.

And why do you want the government to give you things for free?  Get a job and support yourself for fuck's sake.  What are you, a baby or a small child?

While his health insurance covers some of the expenses, many of the doctors’ visits, x-rays, procedures, and prescriptions are not covered. As his friend, I would like to ask you to consider helping him in two ways:

First, would you have your intercessory prayer ministry begin to uphold Dennis at this time for his complete recover? I know Dennis and Anita would be grateful for your partnership in this capacity.

Second, would it be possible for you or your church to assist Dennis with these ongoing expenses? Should you want to help with a love offering, Dennis and Anita would be most grateful.


Thanks again for your friendship and partnership in ministry.

In His love,

Pastor Graham Cathers
Living Faith Christian Church


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 02:07:27 PM
The True Adonis is absolutely typical of the Jews in 1917 who at 3% of the population were 50% of the communist revolution.  How did that one turn out again TA?  ::)  Wasn't it great that everyone had "equality"?  Wasn't it great that everyone was equally poor?  Equally starving?  Equally with bad medical care?  Equally shot in the back of the head by Jewish Bolsheviks if they dared to say anything against the state?
LOL. What does this diatribe even mean, Matt!? He's a contemporary of Bolshevik Jews? I think your rhetoric is getting ahead of your righteousness. Should have just lobbed a few epithets and be done with it. That's the Getbig way.   ;D


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:13:04 PM
The True Adonis is absolutely typical of the Jews in 1917 who at 3% of the population were 50% of the communist revolution.  How did that one turn out again TA?  ::)  Wasn't it great that everyone had "equality"?  Wasn't it great that everyone was equally poor?  Equally starving?  Equally with bad medical care?  Equally shot in the back of the head by Jewish Bolsheviks if they dared to say anything against the state?

Equality isn't hard to achieve TA - take away everything everyone has and everyone will be equal - equally poor.  Do you understand that the technology produced below was only produced to begin with as a result of the capitalist financial incentives in place by the companies which produced them?  As for "free health care", Dennis gets plenty of free health care - in fact, he an army field medic today has the same quality of medical equipment as the best doctors and hospitals in 1800.  What happens in Canada if I need one of the 300 surgeries that were recently cut?  I also don't get care.  Some good it does to get "free" health care when you can't even get it because of socialist rationing.

And why do you want the government to give you things for free?  Get a job and support yourself for fuck's sake.  What are you, a baby or a small child?

Did you even bother to read the article you posted?  Obviously not because it states that nothing is cut, but may, keyword being may, be cut from your system.  It hasn`t happened yet.  

Regardless, the Canadian Health system is better than our system despite your pointless pontifications.

As for your rant on capitalism, the system has been historically hardly an open "free market" for all, (women, all minorities other than white males predominantly Christian) and it has not produced the majority of medical technological advances.

The National Institute of Health, which is publicly funded has.  Look it up.  Something tells me you are too lazy or not capable of comprehending what you will find.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 19, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
LOL. What does this diatribe even mean, Matt!? He's a contemporary of Bolshevik Jews? I think your rhetoric is getting ahead of your righteousness. Should have just lobbed a few epithets and be done with it. That's the Getbig way.   ;D
Red October comes to mind.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:17:07 PM
The profit motive for Private Pharmaceutical companies lies not in curing disease, but in treating symptoms.

Do you know where the majority of vaccines have come from and how they were funded?  


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 02:21:13 PM
LOL. What does this diatribe even mean, Matt!? He's a contemporary of Bolshevik Jews? I think your rhetoric is getting ahead of your righteousness. Should have just lobbed a few epithets and be done with it. That's the Getbig way.   ;D

I honestly think there is some genetic component that makes Jews so predominantly to the left:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1034574.html

Read this silliness:

What is the point of posting this? I DO NOT Support A Profit Based Health Insurance system which is what Obama`s plan is.  Its no different than what you had last year, 20 years etc...Its just a tiny, tiny, bit better but it still keeps the Health Insurance companies at the forefront which means the profit motive is intact as they rack up by continually not covering care.


I do not support Obama`s plan. I support Universal Nationalized Single Payer Healthcare open to all.

LOL...yes just take away the incentive firms have to produce medical technology and hope they will be just as productive.  How naive must a person be to believe such a thing?  ???  Does TA honestly believe that profit creates no incentive whatsoever for firms to produce the goods they do?  It's shocking to me.

This is equally hilarious:

Completely the opposite.  The Health Insurance companies now have 30 million more potential customers and they can still refuse to cover procedures and can also charge high costs if they want.

I even pointed out to TA that in Canada there are hundreds of procedures which are not covered.  How is that any different than insurance companies refusing people care?  Furthermore, insurance companies refuse under 3% of people.  In Canada, everyone is refused for the hundreds of surgeries which are considered "elective".  What's the difference?  It's not surprising to me that a Marxist would not grasp this though.

Ahh, now this amusing bit:

Obama`s plan is the same Plan Republicans favored in 1993 and is a Corporatist wet dream.  

 ::)

TA doesn't grasp the fact that what capitalists want the most is centralized power - a system created by socialism.  That's what is hilarious; TA claims to be against profits yet socializing the health care system creates a monopoly structure which allows the firms which provide the health care to be the sole beneficiary of such profits.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
Yes, because if you embrace Capitalism, you too could own a car like MATT C.

Great Success!


Something tells me that being unmarried and with a child, you may be receiving some sort of government benefits from Canada. hmmmm


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:26:05 PM
I honestly think there is some genetic component that makes Jews so predominantly to the left:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1034574.html

Read this silliness:

LOL...yes just take away the incentive firms have to produce medical technology and hope they will be just as productive.  How naive must a person be to believe such a thing?  ???  Does TA honestly believe that profit creates no incentive whatsoever for firms to produce the goods they do?  It's shocking to me.

This is equally hilarious:

I even pointed out to TA that in Canada there are hundreds of procedures which are not covered.  How is that any different than insurance companies refusing people care?  Furthermore, insurance companies refuse under 3% of people.  In Canada, everyone is refused for the hundreds of surgeries which are considered "elective".  What's the difference?  It's not surprising to me that a Marxist would not grasp this though.

Ahh, now this amusing bit:

 ::)

TA doesn't grasp the fact that what capitalists want the most is centralized power - a system created by socialism.  That's what is hilarious; TA claims to be against profits yet socializing the health care system creates a monopoly structure which allows the firms which provide the health care to be the sole beneficiary of such profits.
James Watson claims Jews and direct Jewish ancestry are the most intelligent of all humans.  Do you agree with James Watson because you seem to support his position on Africans being the least intelligent.  Just curious.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: boonasty on April 19, 2010, 02:32:45 PM
 Either way, I`d rather him live as long as he can or at least with the least amount of suffering possible.

how much are you donating adonis?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:39:12 PM
I honestly think there is some genetic component that makes Jews so predominantly to the left:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1034574.html

Read this silliness:

LOL...yes just take away the incentive firms have to produce medical technology and hope they will be just as productive.  How naive must a person be to believe such a thing?  ???  Does TA honestly believe that profit creates no incentive whatsoever for firms to produce the goods they do?  It's shocking to me.

This is equally hilarious:

I even pointed out to TA that in Canada there are hundreds of procedures which are not covered.  How is that any different than insurance companies refusing people care?  Furthermore, insurance companies refuse under 3% of people.  In Canada, everyone is refused for the hundreds of surgeries which are considered "elective".  What's the difference?  It's not surprising to me that a Marxist would not grasp this though.

Ahh, now this amusing bit:

 ::)

TA doesn't grasp the fact that what capitalists want the most is centralized power - a system created by socialism.  That's what is hilarious; TA claims to be against profits yet socializing the health care system creates a monopoly structure which allows the firms which provide the health care to be the sole beneficiary of such profits.
1. With Universal Coverage, this does not take away any incentive for companies to produce medical technology.  In fact the total opposite would occur given the fact that everyone would have access to paid Healthcare which provides the need for more and certainly better equipment.  Again, the NIH is responsible for the majority of medical "breakthroughs" and what we deem as cures.  Look it up.

2. I used to work for United Health Care, one of the largest Healthcare companies and know for a fact your 3 percent figure is something you just pulled out of your asshole when it comes to care denial.  In America, if you don`t have Health Insurance NOTHING is covered. Nothing,  At least in Canada, that is not the case.  You are not even covered for the most basic of medical care in the United States if you don`t have the means (average cost for a family being around 13,375 dollars a year).  I don`t know your financial situation, but as your live journal from a few years ago indicated, there would be no way IN HELL that you could afford anything.  You were poor and dead broke and this was just a short time ago.  I doubt you won the lottery or fell into some money since.

3. Socialism can exist alongside and with Capitalism as it does in many countries so your all or nothing assessment is meaningless.  And here you are claiming that Nationalizing the healthcare system will create a profit monopoly to the corporations looking to produce medical technology when just a few sentences you claimed the opposite would be true.  

It sounds as if you are the clueless one.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 02:41:02 PM
Yes, Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent of any ethnic group.  That explains why they brilliantly subverted Gentiles in Russia by devising such a brilliant scheme as communism which people bought into because Jews were so good at spinning memes.  It takes a high IQ for a group of people at 3% of the population to almost overthrow a much larger population.  Jews are geniuses [as a group].

Yes, because if you embrace Capitalism, you too could own a car like MATT C.

Great Success!


Something tells me that being unmarried and with a child, you may be receiving some sort of government benefits from Canada. hmmmm

I actually have two children now.  Matt C. Jr. was born on March 21st.  ;D

TA - why would you bash my former car?  Isn't that rather classist?  This coming from a socialist who would at other times denounce the class structure.  This is what I find so hilarious about contradictory socialists.  They want all the wealth and status associated with capitalism - failing to do that on their own they use the government as an agent of force to redistribute the wealth of others for their benefit.

What do you suppose my website is worth TA?  I put 10,000 hours into it.  I am in the top 20 of partners for bodybuilding.com.  I can't see it being worth any less than $100,000 to be honest.  Not to mention I have at least as much in other assets - and that is being conservative.

Let's pretend I'm worth a quarter of a million dollars at age 28.  Is that really so pathetic?  Well maybe for getbig it is.  ;D  I'll be pleased when I earn my first million.  :)

But I still live far below my means.  I drive an economy car!  A Hyundai Elantra.  I also spend very little on myself beyond the necessities.  I assure you that when I finally do hit a million, I will still be living the exact same way.

If you want a system that produces the most wealth - embrace capitalism.  That care cost me $800!  $800 and I got a car which would have cost as much as a house in 1920.  That's the point - capitalism produces wealth for everyone.  Instead you want a system which stalls progress by taking away the incentive that makes these firms produce to begin with.

If you want free health care I'll send you a first aid kit for free.  I want the BEST health care and I am willing to pay for it.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 19, 2010, 02:41:06 PM
First let me say, WELCOME BACK TRUE ADONIS!



I think this all comes down to whether or not you consider health care a right or a privilege.





Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
Yes, Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent of any ethnic group.  That explains why they brilliantly subverted Gentiles in Russia by devising such a brilliant scheme as communism which people bought into because Jews were so good at spinning memes.  It takes a high IQ for a group of people at 3% of the population to almost overthrow a much larger population.  Jews are geniuses [as a group].

I actually have two children now.  Matt C. Jr. was born on March 21st.  ;D

TA - why would you bash my former car?  Isn't that rather classist?  This coming from a socialist who would at other times denounce the class structure.  This is what I find so hilarious about contradictory socialists.  They want all the wealth and status associated with capitalism - failing to do that on their own they use the government as an agent of force to redistribute the wealth of others for their benefit.

What do you suppose my website is worth TA?  I put 10,000 hours into it.  I am in the top 20 of partners for bodybuilding.com.  I can't see it being worth any less than $100,000 to be honest.  Not to mention I have at least as much in other assets - and that is being conservative.

Let's pretend I'm worth a quarter of a million dollars at age 28.  Is that really so pathetic?  Well maybe for getbig it is.  ;D  I'll be pleased when I earn my first million.  :)

But I still live far below my means.  I drive an economy car!  A Hyundai Elantra.  I also spend very little on myself beyond the necessities.  I assure you that when I finally do hit a million, I will still be living the exact same way.

If you want a system that produces the most wealth - embrace capitalism.  That care cost me $800!  $800 and I got a car which would have cost as much as a house in 1920.  That's the point - capitalism produces wealth for everyone.  Instead you want a system which stalls progress by taking away the incentive that makes these firms produce to begin with.

If you want free health care I'll send you a first aid kit for free.  I want the BEST health care and I am willing to pay for it.
2 children, unmarried and not a pot to piss in yet espousing the ideals of Capitalism whilst living in Canada sucking off its system.

You couldn`t make it up if you tried.


http://www.websiteoutlook.com/
This site says that your website is worth:
Estimated Worth $16,242.5 USD

Don`t spend it all in one place there big shot.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:49:12 PM
 :-\   LOLZ!

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Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:53:15 PM
Yes, Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent of any ethnic group.  That explains why they brilliantly subverted Gentiles in Russia by devising such a brilliant scheme as communism which people bought into because Jews were so good at spinning memes.  It takes a high IQ for a group of people at 3% of the population to almost overthrow a much larger population.  Jews are geniuses [as a group].

I actually have two children now.  Matt C. Jr. was born on March 21st.  ;D

TA - why would you bash my former car?  Isn't that rather classist?  This coming from a socialist who would at other times denounce the class structure.  This is what I find so hilarious about contradictory socialists.  They want all the wealth and status associated with capitalism - failing to do that on their own they use the government as an agent of force to redistribute the wealth of others for their benefit.

What do you suppose my website is worth TA?  I put 10,000 hours into it.  I am in the top 20 of partners for bodybuilding.com.  I can't see it being worth any less than $100,000 to be honest.  Not to mention I have at least as much in other assets - and that is being conservative.

Let's pretend I'm worth a quarter of a million dollars at age 28.  Is that really so pathetic?  Well maybe for getbig it is.  ;D  I'll be pleased when I earn my first million.  :)

But I still live far below my means.  I drive an economy car!  A Hyundai Elantra.  I also spend very little on myself beyond the necessities.  I assure you that when I finally do hit a million, I will still be living the exact same way.

If you want a system that produces the most wealth - embrace capitalism.  That care cost me $800!  $800 and I got a car which would have cost as much as a house in 1920.  That's the point - capitalism produces wealth for everyone.  Instead you want a system which stalls progress by taking away the incentive that makes these firms produce to begin with.

If you want free health care I'll send you a first aid kit for free.  I want the BEST health care and I am willing to pay for it.
::)
I guess you haven`t heard of a little thing called inflation and dollar value if you think the car you bought a few years ago for 800 dollars would be equivalent to buying a house in 1920.

Matt C, you really aren`t that bright, but I guess its just genetic seeing as you are in the lower realm without any Jewish blood. Oh well, nothing you can do.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 02:56:02 PM
I actually have two children now.  Matt C. Jr. was born on March 21st.  ;D
Congrats! Although, I have to be honest. My first thought was upon seeing that was of Lawrence Eagleburger, Bush Sr. SofS, who named all his kids Lawrence. And, perhaps, now is not the time to suggest the myth of Uranus and his son Cronus.  ;D  


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 19, 2010, 02:56:11 PM
Yes, because if you embrace Capitalism, you too could own a car like MATT C.

Great Success!


Something tells me that being unmarried and with a child, you may be receiving some sort of government benefits from Canada. hmmmm
I like that car = no payments


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 02:59:01 PM
I like that car = no payments
The car broke down and hardly ran according to his Live Journal account.  It was all he could afford.  He was REALLY down and out about being poor and broke.  He was even running his site then.  LeafyBug and I still have the screenshots before he melted down and pulled it.

There is also a thread archived here that may deserve bumping up for reference.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 19, 2010, 02:59:48 PM
Adonis is a pit bull when it comes to debating, even if you're right, you're wrong....  ;D


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 03:14:19 PM
2 children, unmarried and not a pot to piss in yet espousing the ideals of Capitalism whilst living in Canada sucking off its system.

You couldn`t make it up if you tried.


http://www.websiteoutlook.com/
This site says that your website is worth:
Estimated Worth $16,242.5 USD

Don`t spend it all in one place there big shot.

According to that website, getbig is worth $78,672.10.  Now do you honestly think getbig - which gets in excess of 20,000 unique visitors each day - is worth that little?

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.getbig.com

I'm not sucking off Canada's system - at the hospital I paid to get a private room after my son was born which costs around $200 or so - I couldn't get the room because Aboriginals get all the private rooms for free and White people can't even pay to get the rooms.  Oh yeah, socialized medicine is great.  ::)  Of course I have no choice in the matter because in Canada it is illegal to offer private health care.  You know what other country does that?  North Korea!

I am also a slumlord TA.  I don't think I mentioned that on here.  The market where I am is good.  You do realize that I have not worked since I was 21 right?

What will bankrupt the USA is more socialist intervention.  You do realize that other countries all over the world have tried communism don't you?  Guess what - it was a miserable failure and came at a massive human cost.  It's been tried and if you really wanted to live in a more socialist country you would go live in one.  Instead you choose to live in one of the most capitalist countries on earth and you seek to overthrow the very principles which has produced all the wealth and prosperity that you enjoy.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 19, 2010, 03:23:15 PM
According to that website, getbig is worth $78,672.10.  Now do you honestly think getbig - which gets in excess of 20,000 unique visitors each day - is worth that little?

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.getbig.com

I'm not sucking off Canada's system - at the hospital I paid to get a private room after my son was born which costs around $200 or so - I couldn't get the room because Aboriginals get all the private rooms for free and White people can't even pay to get the rooms.  Oh yeah, socialized medicine is great.  ::)  Of course I have no choice in the matter because in Canada it is illegal to offer private health care.  You know what other country does that?  North Korea!

I am also a slumlord TA.  I don't think I mentioned that on here.  The market where I am is good.  You do realize that I have not worked since I was 21 right?

What will bankrupt the USA is more socialist intervention.  You do realize that other countries all over the world have tried communism don't you?  Guess what - it was a miserable failure and came at a massive human cost.  It's been tried and if you really wanted to live in a more socialist country you would go live in one.  Instead you choose to live in one of the most capitalist countries on earth and you seek to overthrow the very principles which has produced all the wealth and prosperity that you enjoy.

I'm going to have to agree with my good friend Matt C!


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 03:33:38 PM
I'm going to have to agree with my good friend Matt C!

If it's so easy to provide everyone with "free" health care, why not provide it to the 2.6 billion people who live on under $2 per day?  Also, TA claims to consume a $50 bottle of wine each day - does he not realize this can save the lives of 50 malnourished children?

Oh yeah, TA cares about the poor alright.  ::)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 03:41:11 PM
According to that website, getbig is worth $78,672.10.  Now do you honestly think getbig - which gets in excess of 20,000 unique visitors each day - is worth that little?

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.getbig.com

I'm not sucking off Canada's system - at the hospital I paid to get a private room after my son was born which costs around $200 or so - I couldn't get the room because Aboriginals get all the private rooms for free and White people can't even pay to get the rooms.  Oh yeah, socialized medicine is great.  ::)  Of course I have no choice in the matter because in Canada it is illegal to offer private health care.  You know what other country does that?  North Korea!

I am also a slumlord TA.  I don't think I mentioned that on here.  The market where I am is good.  You do realize that I have not worked since I was 21 right?

What will bankrupt the USA is more socialist intervention.  You do realize that other countries all over the world have tried communism don't you?  Guess what - it was a miserable failure and came at a massive human cost.  It's been tried and if you really wanted to live in a more socialist country you would go live in one.  Instead you choose to live in one of the most capitalist countries on earth and you seek to overthrow the very principles which has produced all the wealth and prosperity that you enjoy.
That sounds right for Getbig which is just a hobby for Ron as he has stated on numerous occasions.  Your website worth is also calculated similarly on other sites around the 12,000-16,000 range on every single one.

So I am inclined to believe real time web statistics from multiple sites than your nonsense bullshit estimates.  You are living a complete fantasy that does not exist.  You used to be a bouncer in a hole in the wall club, so your claim of "not working" since 2001 is again, Bullshit.

Your lies have gotten to the point where you believe them and that is dangerous.

Here is your website worth on another site, www.mywebsiteworth.com :
$ 13,179
(http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?c=1&f=555555&u=www.spam.com&u=&r=6m&y=r&z=1&h=200&w=300)

You can do this on many other sites and you will get about the same result.

I do not believe you are a "slum lord" as I doubt a person who is renting out a piece of property they own would refer to themselves as such. You know, it might be a bit bad for business if you go around shouting that from the rooftops which no sensible property owner would do.  Especially when you are so easy to find on the internet.  You have given no indication that you own anything.

A few years ago, you stated in your Live Journal that you were renting.  I have pictures of your roommates. You were also bitching about them in your posts.  Now you are claiming to own "properties" as if by magic.  I don`t believe a word of it.

You are also misinformed on Private Health Insurance in Canada. About 65 percent of people have Private Insurance. content.healthaffairs.or g/cgi/reprint/25/3/878.pdf

Communism is not Socialism but its obvious you don`t know the difference and I think its a waste of time trying to explain.  Socialism has worked in the United States in many cities, Milwaukee for 60 years in the 20th century,  during its time it was voted the number one city to live in the United States (by Time magazine and other publications) year after year.  Socialism has always been with the United States, like it or not.  The very motto for the United States should be, Socialism for the rich, Capitalism for the poor.

Socialism is also flourishing in many Scandinavian countries as well.  I don`t have to leave America, I would rather see it fixed.  I love America but I also recognize it could be better in many aspects.

Why do you live in Canada?  I bet you can`t afford to live in the United States perhaps.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 03:45:36 PM
I'm going to have to agree with my good friend Matt C!
He is full of bullshit.  Not much factual to agree with.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 04:02:30 PM
Quote
A few years ago, you stated in your Live Journal that you were renting.  I have pictures of your roommates.

Yes, I was renting my property to them, LOL.  That's my point - I'm a slumlord and I have been since 2005.

My website has been as high as top 70,000 most popular sites worldwide [or over 100 million websites] and as high as top 40,000 in the USA:

http://www.alexa.com

As I said, I highly doubt my website is worth less than $100,000.  As for getbig, it is worth substantially more.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 04:08:57 PM
Yes, I was renting my property to them, LOL.  That's my point - I'm a slumlord and I have been since 2005.

My website has been as high as top 70,000 most popular sites worldwide [or over 100 million websites] and as high as top 40,000 in the USA:

http://www.alexa.com

As I said, I highly doubt my website is worth less than $100,000.  As for getbig, it is worth substantially more.
LOL. What does your bank guy assess it at?  ;)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 04:09:18 PM
Yes, I was renting my property to them, LOL.  That's my point - I'm a slumlord and I have been since 2005.

My website has been as high as top 70,000 most popular sites worldwide [or over 100 million websites] and as high as top 40,000 in the USA:

http://www.alexa.com

As I said, I highly doubt my website is worth less than $100,000.  As for getbig, it is worth substantially more.
How can you be renting to them when you were dancing around semi-naked WITH them and then complaining that you had to make up for their lack of rent with your own paycheck?
 ???


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
LOL. What does your bank guy assess it at?  ;)

Any business is typically worth 3-5 years revenue.

Thus there is absolutely no way based on standard valuation that my website can be worth less than that.

Also, why would I sell something which will generate that much income in a few years of owning it?  ???  It would make no sense.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 04:24:52 PM
The car broke down and hardly ran according to his Live Journal account.  It was all he could afford.  He was REALLY down and out about being poor and broke.  He was even running his site then.  LeafyBug and I still have the screenshots before he melted down and pulled it.

There is also a thread archived here that may deserve bumping up for reference.


I didn't take down anything.

And it's not so much that I can't afford something - it's that some decisions are simply unwise to make.

My credit cards and line of credits total $70,000 in credit.  Would it be a wise idea for me to spend all of that money?  Or would it be wise for me to continue to save as I have been?

So no, I'm not poor, although I am frugal.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 04:25:13 PM
http://mattcanning.livejournal.com/396322.html#cutid1
Matt C's old car everybody.
(http://mattcanning.livejournal.com/396322.html#cutid1)

The funny thing is, a few years ago I would have driven a tin box (like literally, a tin box - or even that Flinstones stuff) if it got me from A to B. I guess somewhere along the line my standards went up slightly. I am a man of utility. I'll say one thing, I did get my share of judgmental comments for driving a rusted 1989 Mazda 323, from people getting rides from me no less!! Sadly, not an isolated incident, although they were pretty rare. The reality of the situation is that I spent $900 on a car that lasted me three years and I accomplished all the goals I set out for myself in that time. That's called utility or prioritizing. I had my education and house to pay for instead of a fancy car that comes with lack of fuel efficiency and high insurance rates. I wouldn't be where I am now if I did it any other way. I'll say one thing, the second I hear a critical word about my new car from a passenger is the second they walk home. Beggers can't be choosers and I think some people need a lesson in gratitude or just knowing their place.

( Pictures of my Current Car )

New cars are never an asset and always a liability. They depreciate in value the moment you drive them off the lot by upwards of 25% and continue to depreciate from there. In some ways I take after my dad. I have his shoulders and back, I'm a conservative spender and big saver, I am a very easily pleased man, and most relevant to this post, I plan on driving clunkers for the rest of my life. If cars had a practical purpose other than going from A to B I would look at things differently. The owner of EBAY still drove his 1989 Mazda well into being a millionaire. It may very well have been the same model I own.

All in all, it's the same old thing going on in my life. The guys at MuscleTime.com have offered me free tickets to the Arnold Classic next year for helping to promote their bodybuilding DVDs. People won't just stop doing things for me. The cafeteria opens next Saturday. I have to say that as always, I've had my share of bad things happen to me, whether it be people trampling on favours I give them or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I remember as soon as my cell phone was ruined by those ice caps it didn't phase me at all - even knowing it would cost a lot to get the phone replaced. Same as when my car was broken into. No matter how much bad luck I have it seems nothing can get my spirits down lately. I think that finally after 24 and some odd years I am exactly where I want to be in life. I would be happy to have found my niche in life at 50, let alone at 24, and I think a lot of 50 year olds would be happy to find it too. I guess I'm too lucky to be angry or upset about anything for long - even for five minutes

"I would say that for my age I'm ahead of the game of life. Most people twice my age would be happy to be where I am. To be honest, I don't even care if I improve on anything from this day forward. I want to stay exactly as I am right now for as long as possible - though if I improve and if things get better"   :-\


(http://mattcanning.com/IMG_0433.jpg)



Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 04:27:05 PM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-01-22 22:29:00


      
 

Put a fork in 'er she's done.
My car broke down for the last time today. Front axels are completely shot. Reminds me of those otherwise healthy people who suffer from a heart attack, but that's all it takes.

I've had bad luck with this car lately. Multiple problems plus a robbery. Not to mention another five or ten thou on a new car (which means bare minimum mortgage payments for a couple of months). I guess this is the "real world" stuff so many of my teachers used to complain about. Probably because they couldn't deal with these kinds and felt the need to warn others. Just a bump in the road in my book.


(http://mattcanning.com/IMG_0431.jpg)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 04:28:56 PM
Any business is typically worth 3-5 years revenue.

Thus there is absolutely no way based on standard valuation that my website can be worth less than that.

Also, why would I sell something which will generate that much income in a few years of owning it?  ???  It would make no sense.
That wasn't an answer. And I'm not really shitting on you. I've had a nightmare of a time getting some, er, 'art' valuated over the years. I can't even imagine approaching my guy with a web-site. I can see him shaking his head from here.  ;)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 04:29:54 PM
MONSTER MORTAGE PAYMENT.  450 a month in the United States is definitely close to living under the Overpass with the bums. hahahah . What did you thatch your roof with? Grass? Cardboard? Pizza Boxes?

mattcanning
2006-01-11 01:37 am UTC (link)  
I agree. But to me, part of sound financial planning is expecting bills to be more than you would think.

My monthly bills (rounded figures):

mortgage = $450
Home Insurance = $50
Property tax = $100
Utilities = $300
Phone/cell/net = $100 (cell temporarily cancelled)
Car Insurance = $100
Fuel = $50
Food = $400

= $1550

These bills are worst case scenario - e.g., if it is a freezing cold month which results in a higher heat bill. Add in unexpected expenses which come up all the time and you have about $2,000. $3,000 is if very extreme things came up unexpectedly. Being burglarized is one example of a highly unexpected expense. I'm also on a BB diet = huge food bill.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 04:34:15 PM
Haven`t had to work since 2001 you say? EL-O-EL




mattcanning
2005-11-26 10:26 am UTC (link)  
Well thanks for the kind words.

I don't think I'll find what I need though - what I need is a "part time career" which makes no sense whatsoever. I personally wouldn't want to work more than 24-32 hours a week and for that matter I don't need to. Could I find a career which offers that? I don't know, it's hard to say.

I have absolutely concluded that I need to work somewhere though. Even part time volunteering would be good. But I need to spend my alone time working towards something in the company of other people. It's just too boring to do otherwise. My mom was right about that.
(Reply to this)(Parent)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 19, 2010, 04:37:00 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=209502.0;attach=244663;image)

Hey, why did you put my picture in this Adonis???


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
LIES, LIES, LIES

You said this on
« Reply #160 on: April 10, 2008, 11:55:01 PM »

I haven't worked since December 2003 other than maybe 10 weeks during that time when I did.

I didn't drive to the Arnold Classic.  ;D  Do you guys believe everything you read?  Bast175 just made something up and you take it to be truth, lol.  I am actually enjoying my free time now and have no intention to work again, just do something more exciting and broaden my investment portfolio.

I was thinking of taking my Master's of Public Health next year.  What do you guys think?  I find that formal education is a nice way to expand the mind, although it is not the only way.  I think it seems like a worthwhile program though.

Discuss.

Yeah, and pretty well every other award in my high school (lots of these were damaged/destroyed in a 1998 house fire), and numerous awards since university, etc, etc.  But yes, that first high school award in grade nine is a good one, so thanks for pointing it out.  ;)


Now you have pushed the date back to 2001.  EL-o-EL


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Topskin69 on April 19, 2010, 04:54:35 PM
LOL. What does this diatribe even mean, Matt!? He's a contemporary of Bolshevik Jews? I think your rhetoric is getting ahead of your righteousness. Should have just lobbed a few epithets and be done with it. That's the Getbig way.   ;D

Again Chimps I must ask you why you are incapable of offering a counterpoint, based on philosophical reasoning, and a well constructed argument.You are clearly intelligent and well read, surely you can put down the quick, "Throw a Bon Mott and run!" strategy long enough to actually refute Matt C.

I am not even talking about this post/thread specifically, but rather in general, you have a tendency to be condescending, without actually offering any sort of decent rebuttal.

Apparently you are living the Getbig way!  :-[


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 19, 2010, 05:11:40 PM
Again Chimps I must ask you why you are incapable of offering a counterpoint, based on philosophical reasoning, and a well constructed argument.You are clearly intelligent and well read, surely you can put down the quick, "Throw a Bon Mott and run!" strategy long enough to actually refute Matt C.

I am not even talking about this post/thread specifically, but rather in general, you have a tendency to be condescending, without actually offering any sort of decent rebuttal.

Apparently you are living the Getbig way!  :-[
Ach. I get ya, Ts. I used to get all wound up and go toe-to-toe with Matt et al., but I've realized (I'm slow learner) that posting in such a manner really carries no moral or substantiative weight, and I was really probably taking Getbig seriously. Keep it funny. Keep it right. Keep it funny.   


 


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 19, 2010, 05:13:14 PM
I just stopped reading after the first few posts, but come on man, who really cares?  Some guy has health problems, and money problems.  I feel for the guy, but I don't care about helping anyone.  Get some of these welfare junkies off the system and quit paying for those who don't put back into the system, and maybe, just maybe I could deal with my tax dollars going to people in real need.  I live at the oceanfront, and right near me is a small group of section 8 housing(where I think they should all be exterminated) and they live for free while I payed good money for my place.  So until you fix problems like that, Dennis will have to deal with being in debt.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 07:25:34 PM
Now that the mountebank Matt C and his fraudulent standing are out of the way, we can move to more relevant issues.


Dennis Tinerino marketed himself as a Miracle Healer, which means he claimed to have the power to lay hands and cure disease and illness of all types including cancer.

While ironic, I also think it is dangerous in that he may have initially forgone treatment that could have saved his life instead of trying to "faith" heal which is obvious ignorant rubbish.  Does anyone know if this is the case?

Also, I notice his ministry is launching a similar event where they "lay hands" and claim to heal chronic diseases.

What is also dangerous is if he lulled other ignorant dullards into believing that he had the power to heal disease.  He could have been responsible or at least culpable for someone elses death or misery.

http://www.tinerino.com/events.asp

Saturday
April 24
6:00pm
Dennis Tinerino Ministries
19431 Business Center Dr., Ste 2
Northridge, CA 91324

Info:
(818) 885-5711


"Miracle Healing Service" with Joe Contaldi & Bishop Earthquake Kelley Come out and get your miracle!!![/size]


While I feel for Dennis and his plight, he should be utterly ashamed at what he was and is promoting.  I sincerely hope he gets better and realizes not only that there is no such thing as "faith healing" but also his devotion to a non-existent god was no more than pointless vanity.  Dennis plain and simple was acting as a charlatan and as a scam artist.  I hope his ministry evaporates whatever the outcome.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 07:39:16 PM
I also found an interesting Review of Dennis Tinerino`s book on Amazon.  It appears he is no stranger to crime and swindle.

http://www.amazon.com/Supersize-Your-Faith-Tapping-Miracle/product-reviews/0768424089


 Inspirational, But I Have A Few Questions?, December 5, 2007
By    Tim C. Sanderford - See all my reviews

   
Amazon Verified Purchase(What's this?)
This review is from: Supersize Your Faith: Tapping into God's Miracle Power (Paperback)
I picked up this book for two reasons. First, at age 49 I'm interested in bodybuilding from the aspect of slowing down the aging process as much as I can. Secondly, I enjoy Christian books to learn more about my Creator.

Dennis does a fine job describing his poor upbringing, the experiences he had growing up and what he had become before he found Christ. I have no doubts about his conversion and sincerity about his Christian beliefs. However I do have several questions about those beliefs.

1. Once (after you were saved) you and Anita were financially broke and you didn't know how you would pay your bills. Anita told you that she had taken $17,000 from you over a period of time and hidden it away. You said "Thank God".

Exactly where did this money come from? From pimping, and prostitution? Do you believe this is how God operates, giving ill gotten gains to Christians in their time of need? Sorry, but I don't.

When a Christian doing legitimate business has hard times and loses his business and doesn't know where to turn what do you say to him? "You should have been a pimp? Then your wife could have stashed away some of the profits and you wouldn't really be broke?"

There's an unnatural (Biblically) focus here on healing. Yes, God does do miracles everyday. The deaf hear, the blind see, the lame walk. The terminally ill are miraculously healed. Also, children die, the old and infirm die, and people are deaf and blind for life. AIDS kills thousands every day. How does God pick who lives, who is healed, and who is not or dies? Is the difference whether Dennis and his church leaders lay hands on them? I don't think so. Suffering and death have a place that I readily admit I don't understand. But healing the body is such a small portion of what God is about.

2. Several times you quote Oral Roberts. The Roberts name is a blight on Christianity (see Richard). They have done nothing but misrepresent the Gospel for years. Oral's fiasco a few years ago about God taking him home if he didn't raise x amount of dollars in y time frame did him in with me. Dennis, if Oral is a Christian, and Heaven his great reward, why wouldn't he purposely NOT raise the money?

The Paul of the New Testament was by all accounts not a handsome man. He didn't pimp or steal. His spreading of the Gospel of Jesus Christ while imprisoned got him nothing but more prison. Yet he stands as one of the giants of the Christian faith.

Dennis, I think there's a lesson here for you.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 08:02:01 PM
2 children, unmarried and not a pot to piss in yet espousing the ideals of Capitalism whilst living in Canada sucking off its system.

You couldn`t make it up if you tried.


http://www.websiteoutlook.com/
This site says that your website is worth:
Estimated Worth $16,242.5 USD

Don`t spend it all in one place there big shot.

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.bodybuilding.com

So Bodybuilding.com is worth $2.43 million?

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=20207

Looks like this website is off by 40 times?  So my website is actually worth over $668,000?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Cavalier22 on April 19, 2010, 08:05:06 PM
Physician morale is at an all time low.

Both parties are in the pocket of lawyers so no attempt to deal with outrageous med malpractice suits will be made anytime soon


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 08:07:33 PM
http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.bodybuilding.com

So Bodybuilding.com is worth $2.43 million?

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=20207

Looks like this website is off by 40 times?  So my website is actually worth over $668,000?
Go away you charlatan.  Crawl back into your wretched sewer hole that you call B O D Y B U I L D I N G P R O dot com.

You`ve already convinced yourself you are wealthy (which everyone else does not believe based on the evidence and your very own old self-admission) so there is nobody left to convince.

Congratulations on the self-delusion.  Take your hokum elsewhere, you fraud.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on April 19, 2010, 08:22:08 PM
"I would say that for my age I'm ahead of the game of life. Most people twice my age would be happy to be where I am. To be honest, I don't even care if I improve on anything from this day forward. I want to stay exactly as I am right now for as long as possible - though if I improve and if things get better"   :-\


(http://mattcanning.com/IMG_0433.jpg)


Hahahahah MATT CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MATT ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 08:22:42 PM
Go away you charlatan.  Crawl back into your sewer hole that you call ilovespam dot com.

You`ve already convinced yourself you are wealthy (which everyone else does not believe based on the evidence and your old self-admission) so there is nobody left to convince.

Congratulations on the self-delusion.  Take your hokum elsewhere, you fraud.

TA, I'm not here to boast but I'm doing pretty well for my young age.  Did you check out my forum lately?    :)  Register and post immediately.  ;D

DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.

So I take it you get your food from a nonprofit food bank instead of a for-profit grocery store?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 08:35:14 PM
TA, I'm not here to boast but I'm doing pretty well for my young age.  Did you check out my forum lately?    :)  Register and post immediately.  ;D

So I take it you get your food from a nonprofit food bank instead of a for-profit grocery store?

No. But given your location, overall financial situation as you stated, the amount you spend on food (see your previous posts) and the quantity you now consume (1000 calories, not eating for 3 days) you are no stranger to diving inside of back alley dumpsters in the hopes of scavenging together a hearty meal.

Socialism and Capitalism are not mutually exclusive.  Hope this helps.




Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 08:51:40 PM
LIES, LIES, LIES

You said this on
« Reply #160 on: April 10, 2008, 11:55:01 PM »


Now you have pushed the date back to 2001.  EL-o-EL

No, I said age 21.  I urge you to read my posts more carefully:

You do realize that I have not worked since I was 21 right?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 08:55:39 PM
No, I said age 21.  I urge you to read my posts more carefully:

::)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 08:55:43 PM
TA, what's your financial situation? I remember along time ago you boasting about how your family (parents I believe) owned the biggest Bently Dealership in N. Carolina.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 09:05:55 PM
TA, what's your financial situation? I remember along time ago you boasting about how your family (parents I believe) owned the biggest Bently Dealership in N. Carolina.
Somehow you made that one up all by yourself.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Necrosis on April 19, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
Oh man TA is owning the shit out of matt c in this thread LMAO!!. Just an epic destruction going on here, i already explained to matt c the advancments in science with respect to medicine and pharmacology, but he seems to be spouting the same shit in this thread a couple weeks later, strange?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 09:43:46 PM
MONSTER MORTAGE PAYMENT.  450 a month in the United States is definitely close to living under the Overpass with the bums. hahahah . What did you thatch your roof with? Grass? Cardboard? Pizza Boxes?

mattcanning
2006-01-11 01:37 am UTC (link)  
I agree. But to me, part of sound financial planning is expecting bills to be more than you would think.

My monthly bills (rounded figures):

mortgage = $450
Home Insurance = $50
Property tax = $100
Utilities = $300
Phone/cell/net = $100 (cell temporarily cancelled)
Car Insurance = $100
Fuel = $50
Food = $400

= $1550

These bills are worst case scenario - e.g., if it is a freezing cold month which results in a higher heat bill. Add in unexpected expenses which come up all the time and you have about $2,000. $3,000 is if very extreme things came up unexpectedly. Being burglarized is one example of a highly unexpected expense. I'm also on a BB diet = huge food bill.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ROFLMAO@ the temporarily canceled Cell Phone.  

EL-O-EL  I am dying cracking up over here.

Not working since age 21 has paid off. ROFLAFOAFAFM


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 09:47:57 PM
Somehow you made that one up all by yourself.

MMMmm, no. I have a pretty good memory and that would be something pretty hard to forget.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 09:51:07 PM
Oh man TA is owning the shit out of matt c in this thread LMAO!!. Just an epic destruction going on here, i already explained to matt c the advancments in science with respect to medicine and pharmacology, but he seems to be spouting the same shit in this thread a couple weeks later, strange?

I don't see it. I see TA posting up shit from like 06' and he seems like peoples lives can't possibly change that much inside of four years. Still waiting for him to answer on HIS financial situation.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 09:54:24 PM
Somebody is lying about not having to work.................... ROFLMAO

Matt,

You are a mess.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-02-18 02:58:00

      
 

Job thing.
I don't know if I'm liking this whole job thing. I don't like feeling obligated to anybody else like that. I had two reasons for getting the job and the only important one was a backup plan, but maybe I'll just cross that bridge when I get there. If there ever comes a time where I need a job, I'll go get one. After all, that's what my education is for. If my mom bugs me about it, so be it, but I'll just have to be insistent that my way is how it's going to be. Plus I'm getting more work with print mags these days. Now don't get me wrong, I quite like the job I'm at, but I would rather just wake up, mill around for a while, then show up to work when I feel like it. I don't like being on a schedule. I don't like waking up to an alarm clock - that kind of thing. I do what I want when I want and that's just how it is.


I think this stemmed from having gone out to the clubs a bit more lately than I normally do and I realize I went five years without that and now is maybe the time to make up for that now that my future is looking bright. I'm in love with building it, but it is possible to do that too much.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 09:56:46 PM
2006? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:00:21 PM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-02-26 18:48:00


      
 

Debt.
I put in my two weeks notice yesterday. I might ride this out for the rest of my scheduled shifts just for the heck of it, because it seems like the decent thing to do. While most people look at debt as money that belongs to them, it's flawed to look at it like that and all that I see is that I'm swimming in debt, regardless of how much has been paid (e.g., no student debt, no car debt, not much house debt given that I've only been there for eight months). Whenever I have a task in front of me I just want to finish it as quickly and efficiently as possible not matter how overwhelming or arduous it may be. I wanted to be debt free in two years, and planted this idea in my mom's head who was encouraging me with it. I just remember the story of the grasshopper and the ant when I was a kid and always wanting to be the ant.

Social atmosphere is a lame excuse to work since Ian and Brian are home all the time. That $10-20K a year I can make working is tempting, if I did want to be debt free in two years that is. But enough is enough. This is how I look at it: I have 20 years to hold debt if I want to (which is WAY too easy to carry these days), or for the rest of my life if need be, but I'll only have my youth for a more limited period of time. I can never really be envious of an adult because no matter how great their lives may be, the chances of going out and partying and being / feeling young are no longer there (unless of course you are Albert Beckles). Translated: most men 10 years older than me aren't in the same position as I am and there is a reason for that, because they spent their youth as the grasshopper and knew full well they would have a whole life ahead of them to undertake adult responsibilities. I don't know why I work so much. It is a problem and it ends here. I bought a stopwatch, and I'll be spending no more than five hours a day working at a relaxed pace, and doing what I want in the meantime.

I always thought it would be silly to see old people slave for their whole lives just to put on a big wedding for their kids and drive a convertible in the years before they die. If I hadn't sat down and realized I was on that road, that would have been my reality.

I always thought it was so silly when I saw these old people who slaved their whole lives just to put on an expensive wedding for their kids and drive a convertible in the years before they die. And that would have been me if I didn't stop and think about it.

Taxes = done.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
No. But given your location, overall financial situation as you stated, the amount you spend on food (see your previous posts) and the quantity you now consume (1000 calories, not eating for 3 days) you are no stranger to diving inside of back alley dumpsters in the hopes of scavenging together a hearty meal.

Honestly, it's tough for me to get the calories down.

Today I consumed only one full meal!  Thinking about this is shocking to me, given that I am still not hungry!  Unreal...I am going to eat a 300 calorie protein bar right now just to get some more calories in - I am consistently amazed at my lack of appetite.  It's not due to lack of money though or even lack of food in my house, it's just that I have a shockingly low appetite.

Yet today my bench was 225X21.  ???  In fact, I believe Zach won the getbig bench contest with 24 reps.  I feel that if I had eaten more food yesterday and today I could have hit 23.  It's shocking that my strength is quite good yet I weigh 170 or so and probably couldn't eat 3,000 calories if I tried.  My lack of appetite really bothers me.

Also, where I'm from, a $100,000 house would be two stories, two bathrooms, four bedrooms, etc.  The market here is very affordable.  Home costs are low, but rent is relatively high so being a landlord is a good occupation.

Oh man TA is owning the shit out of matt c in this thread LMAO!!. Just an epic destruction going on here, i already explained to matt c the advancments in science with respect to medicine and pharmacology, but he seems to be spouting the same shit in this thread a couple weeks later, strange?

Register on my site immediately.  Click the link in my signature immediately.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: tbombz on April 19, 2010, 10:00:33 PM
If it's so easy to provide everyone with "free" health care, why not provide it to the 2.6 billion people who live on under $2 per day?  Also, TA claims to consume a $50 bottle of wine each day - does he not realize this can save the lives of 50 malnourished children?

Oh yeah, TA cares about the poor alright.  ::)
your line of thought is extremely skewed. you think that the united states shouldnt use its citizens taxes to make sure they get medical coverage when they need it. and you think that because, apparently you think that the fact they arent simultaneously feeding the world and also providing them too with medical coverage, that that fact somehow means the united states would be mistaken in giving their own tax paying citizens medical coverags.



besides the point that you are actually trying to say that universal health care is too costly to be realistic, both on the us national level and on the global level. how wrong you are. look at the stats buddy, america already pays out way more than enough necessary in "healthcare" funding to fully cover every citizen free of charge.. chek out the stats. cant argue facts:

Health Statistics > Spending > Per person (most recent) by country

        
# 1    United States: 4,271  
# 2    Switzerland: 3,857  
# 3    Norway: 3,182  
# 4    Denmark: 2,785  
# 5    Luxembourg: 2,731  
# 6    Iceland: 2,701  
# 7    Germany: 2,697  
# 8    France: 2,288  
# 9    Japan: 2,243  
# 10    Netherlands: 2,173




Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:02:04 PM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-02-27 16:47:00


      
 

MCCI.
I admit I was looking for a reason to quit that place. Pretty much the slightest injustice would have set me off, e.g., not having orange juice in the vending machine.

But the injustice I found as an excuse to leave was a pretty legit one: there were some bonus shifts given that came with a $50 US cash bonus if they were worked. The rules were much like a stat holiday. However, the team I was working on was not added to the email list by the time the rules were sent and therefore I didn't know what they were (received no email or information). Another employee on my team quit out of principle - she arrived late and was denied her bonus, yet hadn't been adequately informed of the rules. I was absent the shift after the bonus shift and did not receive my bonus because of that. When she quit, I decided to really put some pressure on MCCI by threatening to quit also. I made it pretty simple: give me the money I earned, and if not, my two weeks notice start today (Saturday).

Ouch. Corporations don't like it when people like me rightfully tip the balance of power away from them. They made a gamble, which corporations often make: they decided to screw me out of $100US thinking they could keep it which the outsourcing corporation (Verizon) already gave them, as well as two skilled employees. They thought wrong, and this little financial gamble cost them the time and training costs associated with us (minimum of $2000 each).

All for $100. Poor business move. Especially because there was another employee who also quit, for multiple reasons, one of which was the bonus issue. The people at Human Resources were furious at me. I think they really felt this one - I could tell they knew full well the mistake they made.

Now could you imagine if Verizon found out what their outsourcing company was doing? Stuff like this will result in MCCI losing their contract.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:03:52 PM
mattcanning
2006-02-18 09:04 pm UTC (link)  
I just don't make a good employee. Unless you can find me a job that I can show up at when I'm bored. But how many would allow that?

So time to find something else to stave off boredom. Like watching TV maybe, hah.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 10:04:45 PM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-02-27 16:47:00


      
 

MCCI.
I admit I was looking for a reason to quit that place. Pretty much the slightest injustice would have set me off, e.g., not having orange juice in the vending machine.

But the injustice I found as an excuse to leave was a pretty legit one: there were some bonus shifts given that came with a $50 US cash bonus if they were worked. The rules were much like a stat holiday. However, the team I was working on was not added to the email list by the time the rules were sent and therefore I didn't know what they were (received no email or information). Another employee on my team quit out of principle - she arrived late and was denied her bonus, yet hadn't been adequately informed of the rules. I was absent the shift after the bonus shift and did not receive my bonus because of that. When she quit, I decided to really put some pressure on MCCI by threatening to quit also. I made it pretty simple: give me the money I earned, and if not, my two weeks notice start today (Saturday).

Ouch. Corporations don't like it when people like me rightfully tip the balance of power away from them. They made a gamble, which corporations often make: they decided to screw me out of $100US thinking they could keep it which the outsourcing corporation (Verizon) already gave them, as well as two skilled employees. They thought wrong, and this little financial gamble cost them the time and training costs associated with us (minimum of $2000 each).

All for $100. Poor business move. Especially because there was another employee who also quit, for multiple reasons, one of which was the bonus issue. The people at Human Resources were furious at me. I think they really felt this one - I could tell they knew full well the mistake they made.

Now could you imagine if Verizon found out what their outsourcing company was doing? Stuff like this will result in MCCI losing their contract.

2006?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 19, 2010, 10:05:25 PM
mattcanning
2006-02-18 09:04 pm UTC (link)  
I just don't make a good employee. Unless you can find me a job that I can show up at when I'm bored. But how many would allow that?

So time to find something else to stave off boredom. Like watching TV maybe, hah.


2006?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:05:56 PM
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Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:07:44 PM

Mail order Personal Trainer?

Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-10-04 04:01:00


      
 

Update.


I was considering a degree in Kinesiology but decided against it since it will take at least two full years to complete. Not to mention I had planned to do it "for fun", but then why pay for it right? I can learn for free online or at the library (and I do). I think I'm interested in taking a personal trainer certification course through one of the accredited schools - I'm thinking ISSA.



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Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:09:21 PM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-10-04 04:01:00
Armani's

I can no longer work at the bathroom exit spot at Armani's! What a bunch of crap.
The head bouncer says I spend too much time talking to girls. He went so far as shoeing them away from me on his day off. Then he was dumb enough to tell me a couple of them got mad. No $h*t! He later said (in army fashion as we were in the army together) that shit only came down on me because it came down on him...yeah, on his day off?  I don't think so. He then tried to justify doing that by saying he was drunk that day and that is why he got angry that time, but the other time was because the owner told him to get mad at me (yeah right). He also makes it a point to tell everyone I'm on steroids. At first I was flattered because no matter how you cut it, that's a compliment. It means that either I'm using them and show it, or not using them and show it. Either way, he wouldn't make the accusation if he didn't see some kind of results. I told my friends I was flattered and they said I should be angry - because people will think I'm using drugs when I'm not. I guess that is a valid point.

Needless to say I am upset because talking to girls is one of the main reasons I got that job to begin with, and it was all going great until he ruined it for me.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:10:59 PM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2004-05-25 13:44:00


      
 

The End.

I cleared out entirely from the military today, and I didn't transfer into the holding reserve either. As far as the military is concerned, I never existed :D

I wonder if I would have been more motivated to work more if I had waited for my promotion to Master Corporal which was due in February, instead of abruptly quitting in December. My promotions in the past had been good motivators when I wanted to quit. Oh well, not important.

And guess what? I was allowed to keep my dress uniform free of charge. Awesome. I would have paid the required £170, but this is a welcome bonus. Here is my final assessment. Good for a laugh:



Corporal Canning's overall performance during the reporting period has been below average. He paraded 17 days out of a possible 69 days of planned training. Corporal Canning has shown some interest in the military by applying for an exemption from drill and training (ED&T) and staying off the non-effective service (NES) list. His civilian schedule took too much of his time and he was on ED&T from December 2003 until May 2004. He was not tested on physical fitness because he was not available for the tests. He showed potential progress in the military by successfully completing a signal operator journeyman course. He is an intelligent individual who has a good basic knowledge of his trade as demonstrated by successfully completing his signal operator journeyman course. Corporal Canning showed low reliability and initiative when taking care of personal military equipment. Although he was verbally counselled, his dress remained below standard prior to ED&T. Corporal Canning applied to become an officer and started the administrative process. He did not schedule WPSO interview and cancelled out of the process. Corporal Canning has the potential to become a good lemming soldier should he return to active training and attend regular squadron activities and training.
Corporal Canning's overall potential is low to normal. He displayed very poor leadership traits and required counselling for adverse dress and deportment. Although he showed a very solid capability to absorb training material and apply his newly acquired knowledge, his parade attendance negated any opportunity to prosper from his skill sets. Corporal Canning is currently on ED&T, should he return to active training with the unit, he has the potential to progress as a tradesman and lemming soldier.
Corporal Canning's performance has been below average. He must take responsibility for his personal kit and ensure it is ready at all times. His planning and organizational skills as well as leadership traits must improve if he is to progress any further in the CF.


And my final checklist:

Checklist Member can polish his boots BIG X
Member can remove lint from his beret BIG X
Member can remove threads from his uniform BIG X
Member is physically fit  
Member is capable of surviving in a war  


2/5...Damn, I fail! :(

In conclusion I was an excellent soldier but a terrible lemming. Unfortunately that's an automatic failure.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 10:14:34 PM
I hated the army and I don't make a good employee, that's why I'm a self-employed entrepreneur/landlord.  I am doing pretty well.

As for TA making fun of my debt - do you think that people who own investment properties don't have debt?  ::)  In fact, I asked my banker if I should pay off my properties as quickly as possible and she said it would be worthwhile for me to simply pay the minimum payments.  She said the bank would be more keen to offer me more credit if I am cash-rich rather than land-rich.  Although to be honest, her explanation didn't make much sense and I feel she just wants me to be on the hook with the bank forever.

TA must think everyone with hundreds of thousands of dollars in properties pay them off right away.  ::)

If I cashed out everything I own right now and sold my website, I am worth a quarter of a million dollars which is pretty good for 28 I would say.  Yes, this figure is off - if anything it is a little more!

As for the US health care system, it has its flaws, but providing care to 30 million people who want the government to dole out freebies to them devoid of paying anything is not going to work.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:15:43 PM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2004-05-25 13:44:00


      
 

The End.

I cleared out entirely from the military today, and I didn't transfer into the holding reserve either. As far as the military is concerned, I never existed :D

I wonder if I would have been more motivated to work more if I had waited for my promotion to Master Corporal which was due in February, instead of abruptly quitting in December. My promotions in the past had been good motivators when I wanted to quit. Oh well, not important.

And guess what? I was allowed to keep my dress uniform free of charge. Awesome. I would have paid the required £170, but this is a welcome bonus. Here is my final assessment. Good for a laugh:



Corporal Canning's overall performance during the reporting period has been below average. He paraded 17 days out of a possible 69 days of planned training. Corporal Canning has shown some interest in the military by applying for an exemption from drill and training (ED&T) and staying off the non-effective service (NES) list. His civilian schedule took too much of his time and he was on ED&T from December 2003 until May 2004. He was not tested on physical fitness because he was not available for the tests. He showed potential progress in the military by successfully completing a signal operator journeyman course. He is an intelligent individual who has a good basic knowledge of his trade as demonstrated by successfully completing his signal operator journeyman course. Corporal Canning showed low reliability and initiative when taking care of personal military equipment. Although he was verbally counselled, his dress remained below standard prior to ED&T. Corporal Canning applied to become an officer and started the administrative process. He did not schedule WPSO interview and cancelled out of the process. Corporal Canning has the potential to become a good lemming soldier should he return to active training and attend regular squadron activities and training.
Corporal Canning's overall potential is low to normal. He displayed very poor leadership traits and required counselling for adverse dress and deportment. Although he showed a very solid capability to absorb training material and apply his newly acquired knowledge, his parade attendance negated any opportunity to prosper from his skill sets. Corporal Canning is currently on ED&T, should he return to active training with the unit, he has the potential to progress as a tradesman and lemming soldier.
Corporal Canning's performance has been below average. He must take responsibility for his personal kit and ensure it is ready at all times. His planning and organizational skills as well as leadership traits must improve if he is to progress any further in the CF.


And my final checklist:

Checklist Member can polish his boots BIG X
Member can remove lint from his beret BIG X
Member can remove threads from his uniform BIG X
Member is physically fit  
Member is capable of surviving in a war  


2/5...Damn, I fail! :(

In conclusion I was an excellent soldier but a terrible lemming. Unfortunately that's an automatic failure.

Glorious Refutations!
(Anonymous)
2004-05-30 06:26 pm UTC (link)  
Hey Numbnuts!
I do remember you, and I do remember exactly the kind of soldier you were, not the soldier you profess to be. Yes, dress and deportment ranks right up there on the useless skills that you'll never use in real life - but then so is being a radio operator, unless you've decided to become a cab dispatcher, hmmm?  
Why don't you put your balls to the wall and post every other PER you've ever had? I'm sure they'll say everything else I, or any other supervisor you've ever had, you maximum supervision brain dead excuse for a lemming. Do us all a favor and do what the rest of us 'lemmings' are doing and get out of the military by swallowing a 9mm Browning round as an act of protest. Or do something useful by standing in front of the REAL soldiers who happen to be stationed besides an American contingent. Training accidents are sometimes a useful training AID you High Voltage auto erotic fuck. At the very least, it'll save us the hassle of footing the bill for the remainder of your misguided attempt to autofellate yourself and impress strangers with a misguided self portrait of brown nosed, weepy eyed ass licker whose strongest claim to fame is his (in)ability to slam people who frankly want to wash their hands of him and an institution whose biggest mistake was to believe what he (YOU!) said in the interview.
I was disgusted with you in person, and I'm disgusted with your inability to leave well enough alone. Fuck you, and may your next batch of co workers be as miserable with you as me. And just in case you didn't get it the first time, I say again, FUCK YOU! and may your balls be as big as your next paycheck pumping gas at 7-11, you cowardly excuse for slack jawed simpering dimwit who killed every opportunity the military gave him.
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Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:27:26 PM
I hated the army and I don't make a good employee, that's why I'm a self-employed entrepreneur/landlord.  I am doing pretty well.

As for TA making fun of my debt - do you think that people who own investment properties don't have debt?  ::)  In fact, I asked my banker if I should pay off my properties as quickly as possible and she said it would be worthwhile for me to simply pay the minimum payments.  She said the bank would be more keen to offer me more credit if I am cash-rich rather than land-rich.  Although to be honest, her explanation didn't make much sense and I feel she just wants me to be on the hook with the bank forever.

TA must think everyone with hundreds of thousands of dollars in properties pay them off right away.  ::)

If I cashed out everything I own right now and sold my website, I am worth a quarter of a million dollars which is pretty good for 28 I would say.  Yes, this figure is off - if anything it is a little more!

As for the US health care system, it has its flaws, but providing care to 30 million people who want the government to dole out freebies to them devoid of paying anything is not going to work.
ROFLMAO at your claims.

As I said, nobody here believes your trite excuses or your mounting bullshit.  All they have to do is read your journal to find out, in your own words, that you are now a pathological and perpetual liar of psychotic proportions. Seek some help you mindless parrot.

You don`t have two nickels to rub together let alone anywhere to put them.  You are not worth 250,000 dollars, you aren`t even worth 250 dollars.

You have 2 kids, a negative income and a warped world-view.  The frightening thing is, you see it all as rainbows and unicorns as you spin self-deluded fairy tales to a vanishing audience. 

Ignorance is bliss and your windmill keeps growing but your sword is ever shrinking.



Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:30:05 PM
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Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 10:32:06 PM
THE TRUE ADONIS,

If I withdrew $9,900 from my checking account tomorrow and posted a picture of myself with it, would you take back your ridiculous remarks?  I would withdraw more but it is actually illegal in Canada to withdraw $10,000 or more without permission from the police.

Or I could withdraw that amount two days in a row and post a picture with my name on it.  Would this be proof enough for you or would you continue to spew your nonsense?

PS - can anyone help me to consume more calories?  ???  Damn, I wish I had a bigger appetite although I acknowledge this is genetic.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:38:20 PM
THE TRUE ADONIS,

If I withdrew $9,900 from my checking account tomorrow and posted a picture of myself with it, would you take back your ridiculous remarks?  I would withdraw more but it is actually illegal in Canada to withdraw $10,000 or more without permission from the police.

Or I could withdraw that amount two days in a row and post a picture with my name on it.  Would this be proof enough for you or would you continue to spew your nonsense?

PS - can anyone help me to consume more calories?  ???  Damn, I wish I had a bigger appetite although I acknowledge this is genetic.
Take a camera into a Canadian Bank, Take a picture with the teller or cashier giving you the cashier check, take a few pictures of the cashier check while at the bank and have a current newspaper with you so we can verify the date.

That sounds reasonable.  Also, while you are there, get a bank statement so we at Getbig can verify your funds.

I am willing to delete my account and never post here again if you can PROVE that you are worth over 250,000 dollars as well as your cashiers check.

You won`t comply so its really no use.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
THE TRUE ADONIS,

If I withdrew $9,900 from my checking account tomorrow and posted a picture of myself with it, would you take back your ridiculous remarks?  I would withdraw more but it is actually illegal in Canada to withdraw $10,000 or more without permission from the police.

Or I could withdraw that amount two days in a row and post a picture with my name on it.  Would this be proof enough for you or would you continue to spew your nonsense?

PS - can anyone help me to consume more calories?  ???  Damn, I wish I had a bigger appetite although I acknowledge this is genetic.
Also, there is nothing to take back.  I am merely quoting posts from your journal on your lamentations about being poor, jumping from job to job and having difficulty with "social" scenes.

I didn`t make them up.  They are your posts, just like that jalopy was your car.  I guess with 250,000 dollars of worth, its hard to pass up a 900 dollar car as your main source of transportation.

Right, Mr. Frugalman?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 10:47:16 PM
Also, there is nothing to take back.  I am merely quoting posts from your journal on your lamentations about being poor, jumping from job to job and having difficulty with "social" scenes.

I didn`t make them up.  They are your posts, just like that jalopy was your car.  I guess with 250,000 dollars of worth, its hard to pass up a 900 dollar car as your main source of transportation.

Right, Mr. Frugalman?

I am willing to go to the bank on two separate days and post a picture of myself with $20,000 cash with the current newspaper and an address that "TA is a liar" on paper.

All of this to prove you wrong.  ::)  But then again, if it shut you up for a bit that would be worth it.

Now that said, you lied about having a Physics degree.  Shame on you!  You probably "studied" Physics much like pro bodybuilders claim to have "studied" subjects on their websites.  ;D


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 10:52:44 PM
DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.

Oh yeah, he is the "victim" of a for-profit industry for not being provided with health care services which would never exist in the first place if not for profit-based incentives.  ::)

If you think "free" health care is so great, go to Cuba.  Let us know how that one goes for you.

If you are so rich TA, why do you endorse socialized medicine?  Are you incapable of taking care of yourself and your family?  Have you ever heard of health insurance?  ???


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:54:04 PM
I am willing to go to the bank on two separate days and post a picture of myself with $20,000 cash with the current newspaper and an address that "TA is a liar" on paper.

All of this to prove you wrong.  ::)  But then again, if it shut you up for a bit that would be worth it.

Now that said, you lied about having a Physics degree.  Shame on you!  You probably "studied" Physics much like pro bodybuilders claim to have "studied" subjects on their websites.  ;D
I bet you won`t do it you cheap grifter.  How does tomorrow sound?  The cashier can write one check for 20,000 dollars no problem.  Make sure to snap pictures of the bank, you in the bank with the cashier, and have tomorrow`s newspaper with you.  Also photograph the receipt while in the bank. We don`t want any photoshops or other nonsense that you would be guaranteed to pull.

Can we expect this done by the evening?


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 10:58:30 PM
Also be sure to get a receipt of your entire bank account so we can verify your total liquid assets.  Photograph that while you are on site as well.

I know you are nothing more than a flimflam fabricator so I don`t expect any of the above to actually ensue, but it is rather amusing to goad you.



Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 19, 2010, 11:02:40 PM
I bet you won`t do it you cheap grifter.  How does tomorrow sound?  The cashier can write one check for 20,000 dollars no problem.  Make sure to snap pictures of the bank, you in the bank with the cashier, and have tomorrow`s newspaper with you.  Also photograph the receipt while in the bank. We don`t want any photoshops or other nonsense that you would be guaranteed to pull.

Can we expect this done by the evening?

I will post a picture with $9,900 tomorrow with the newspaper and a note addressed to you.  I will purchase a copy of a national newspaper so that the headline can be proven to be from the correct date since local news will be less clear.

Now please go post on my forum.  :)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 11:04:51 PM
"I haven`t worked since I was 21 years old"- Matt C


ROFLMAO.


Why Matt?  Why?  All one needs to do is read the first thread on this VERY page to show you are nothing more than a giant backbluffing fraudster.  Furthermore, they can read that you bounced from mindless job to mindless job the entire time you were play acting as Bodybuilding Webmaster.

If we were giving out Getbig Oscars today, I don`t think you would have any competition whatsoever.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 11:08:52 PM
I will post a picture with $9,900 tomorrow with the newspaper and a note addressed to you.  I will purchase a copy of a national newspaper so that the headline can be proven to be from the correct date since local news will be less clear.

Now please go post on my forum.  :)
Pictures of you in the bank. Pictures of the cashier handing the check over.  Pictures of the check on site in the bank with you.  Why not get the cashier to print a 20,000 dollar check?  You can easily get that done.

Oh and to verify that it is coming out of your bank account and not a credit card, we need a picture of a bank statement before the money is withdrawn and then after as well.  Do this while inside the bank with the cashier as well.

This is the only way to avoid being hoodwinked by an outed scoundrel double-dealing mountebank such as yourself.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Tyr on April 19, 2010, 11:13:55 PM
The game is certainly afoot in this thread   :D


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2010, 11:15:12 PM
I will post a picture with $9,900 tomorrow with the newspaper and a note addressed to you.  I will purchase a copy of a national newspaper so that the headline can be proven to be from the correct date since local news will be less clear.

Now please go post on my forum.  :)
Your forum is a ghost town full of mindless ramblings mostly from yourself to yourself.  I can clearly see how the path to self-delusion has formed.  You are your own boss, just like you are your own best friend, just like you are your favorite poster on your site (since you are the only one posting to yourself).

Your Universe does not extend much beyond the 450 dollar a month milk-box you call home.  It does make sense now.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 12:44:27 AM
"I haven`t worked since I was 21 years old"- Matt C


ROFLMAO.


Why Matt?  Why?  All one needs to do is read the first thread on this VERY page to show you are nothing more than a giant backbluffing fraudster.  Furthermore, they can read that you bounced from mindless job to mindless job the entire time you were play acting as Bodybuilding Webmaster.

If we were giving out Getbig Oscars today, I don`t think you would have any competition whatsoever.

I worked as security in various capacities more as a social experience than anything.  I worked at a job for a full 10 weeks in between 2003-2010.  This is your evidence that I'm lying?  ::)  Do you want me to list the volunteer work I've done in that time as well?  I guess technically that is work as well.

Pictures of you in the bank. Pictures of the cashier handing the check over.  Pictures of the check on site in the bank with you.  Why not get the cashier to print a 20,000 dollar check?  You can easily get that done.

Oh and to verify that it is coming out of your bank account and not a credit card, we need a picture of a bank statement before the money is withdrawn and then after as well.  Do this while inside the bank with the cashier as well.

This is the only way to avoid being hoodwinked by an outed scoundrel double-dealing mountebank such as yourself.

Notice here that TA knows full well that I can produce $9,900 by tomorrow.  In fact, I can produce $19,800 by Wednesday.  Of course TA knows this which is why he is demanding such strict and unfulfillable terms.

He wants me to go out of my way to bring my camera to the bank and risk having security called on me for such nutty behaviour.  I'm going to do that to prove a point to you TA.  Ya rly.  ::)  It's already annoying enough to have to withdraw the money and deposit it back the next day, but I will do that to prove a point.  The point being that you are a clueless socialist without a Physics degree.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 20, 2010, 12:49:21 AM
Oh yeah, he is the "victim" of a for-profit industry for not being provided with health care services which would never exist in the first place if not for profit-based incentives.  ::)

If you think "free" health care is so great, go to Cuba.  Let us know how that one goes for you.

If you are so rich TA, why do you endorse socialized medicine?  Are you incapable of taking care of yourself and your family?  Have you ever heard of health insurance?  ???

When it comes to economics and politics I find that we are kindred spirits. But I am a fierce supporter of Israel and the Jewish people. And I'm not just saying this to ingratiate myself to Yaroni though it can't hurt.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2010, 01:06:13 AM
I worked as security in various capacities more as a social experience than anything.  I worked at a job for a full 10 weeks in between 2003-2010.  This is your evidence that I'm lying?  ::)  Do you want me to list the volunteer work I've done in that time as well?  I guess technically that is work as well.

Notice here that TA knows full well that I can produce $9,900 by tomorrow.  In fact, I can produce $19,800 by Wednesday.  Of course TA knows this which is why he is demanding such strict and unfulfillable terms.

He wants me to go out of my way to bring my camera to the bank and risk having security called on me for such nutty behaviour.  I'm going to do that to prove a point to you TA.  Ya rly.  ::)  It's already annoying enough to have to withdraw the money and deposit it back the next day, but I will do that to prove a point.  The point being that you are a clueless socialist without a Physics degree.
You can`t produce anything nor are you willing to verify it under terms that are unfalsifiable.  You are already a proven deceptive backslider and there is little doubt that you would try hornswaggle us all with a phony photoshop or what have you.

Produce the meager sum as I have directed with verifiable and irrefutable evidence as I have laid out, (I doubt even a double-dealer such as yourself could cheat my terms) or consider yourself what we all know you to be, a genetically broken, sub-average (as your military superiors and military evaluations have pointed out) self-deluded deceiver/crook.  Basically an affront to all decency and anything remotely deserving of being a member of this very site.

You cannot produce anything you destitute hobgoblin.  Nothing.  You have zilch.  No money. Zero. Nada. You are in the red. Flat broke. Empty Pocketed.  Not a dollar to your name.

Keep on pulling the wool over your own eyes and continue spinning in circles you hopeless scamp.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2010, 01:10:28 AM
"I would say that for my age I'm ahead of the game of life. Most people twice my age would be happy to be where I am. To be honest, I don't even care if I improve on anything from this day forward. I want to stay exactly as I am right now for as long as possible - though if I improve and if things get better"   :-\


(http://mattcanning.com/IMG_0433.jpg)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 01:13:54 AM
When it comes to economics and politics I find that we are kindred spirits. But I am a fierce supporter of Israel and the Jewish people. And I'm not just saying this to ingratiate myself to Yaroni though it can't hurt.


Alright, fair enough.

Certainly I have no objection with a racial group engaging in self-preservation and self-determination as is the goal of the state of Israel.  My objection would be in Jewish groups such as the ADL and the SPLC openly advocating against the preservation of European people.  From the Jewish run ADL:

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/Backgrounder:+American+Third+Position.htm

Note that all they can do is smear the A3P by screaming "racism" and "anti-Semitic".  The usual tricks.

Now note the double standard:

http://www.adl.org/about.asp

Quote
The Anti-Defamation League was founded in 1913 "to stop the defamation of the Jewish people."

-defends the security of Israel and Jews worldwide

-In the forefront of the fight against anti-Semitism, challenges American and world leaders and the United Nations to take action against anti-Jewish bigotry and violence and exposes and condemns attacks on Jews.

-Through a comprehensive Web site and publications, provides the knowledge and tools to counteract anti-Semitism, hatred and intolerance.

Now look at the people the ADL is against:

http://www.american3p.org/?p=464

Quote
And since many of the professors who have been harassing me are Jewish, I constantly stressed the point that the American Jewish community is deeply committed to its own ethnostate in Israel. Why shouldn’t I be allowed to want an ethnostate for my people?  And if the Jewish community is going to pose as a moral beacon of ethnic tolerance to the rest of humanity, why is Israel engaged in ethnic cleansing and seizing land from the Palestinians?

So it's alright to stand up for your ethnic group interests if you are Jewish apparently, but don't dare do it if you are White!  That would be racist.

Now observe the comments from the Jewish run SPLC:

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/04/16/white-nationalist-website-vdare-in-trouble-loses-big-funder

Quote
The white nationalist website VDARE.com is in financial trouble — and its founder says that more mainstream anti-immigration groups may be responsible.

If Jews feel that immigration in the USA is such a good thing, wouldn't it be a good thing for Israel as well?  Clearly Jews do not want liberal immigration policies for Israel, so how come Jews are so keen on advancing non-White immigration in predominantly White societies?

Again, these double standards are clear.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 01:17:30 AM
You can`t produce anything nor are you willing to verify it under terms that are unfalsifiable.  You are already a proven deceptive backslider and there is little doubt that you would try hornswaggle us all with a phony photoshop or what have you.

Produce the meager sum as I have directed with verifiable and irrefutable evidence as I have laid out, (I doubt even a double-dealer such as yourself could cheat my terms) or consider yourself what we all know you to be, a genetically broken, sub-average (as your military superiors and military evaluations have pointed out) self-deluded deceiver/crook.  Basically an affront to all decency and anything remotely deserving of being a member of this very site.

You cannot produce anything you destitute hobgoblin.  Nothing.  You have zilch.  No money. Zero. Nada. You are in the red. Flat broke. Empty Pocketed.  Not a dollar to your name.

Keep on pulling the wool over your own eyes and continue spinning in circles you hopeless scamp.

No, you're stupid.  My "military evaluation" was made in jest.  It was a joke wherein I pointed out that I was bad at polishing my boots and taking lint off my beret but I was good at fighting in wars.  My point was to show how much of a joke the Canadian Forces is that cares more about how shiny a soldier's boots are than how physically fit he is.  I saw fat soldiers with shiny boots being praised.  It's ridiculous.  ::)  The military "evaluations" are worthless - they just prove who is the best ass-kisser.

The evaluation was made in jest.  You were too stupid to get that part though.

Having said this I will produce the photo tomorrow with $9,900 and today's newspaper.  No matter how you cut it, it will be a real photo.

At which point I will leave you pissing up your leg claiming the photo was fake or that I borrowed the money from someone else for the photo.  As if people just casually have $9,900 lying around to have a picture taken of for someone else.  ::)

But again, you will be left pissing up your leg, that's the point.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2010, 01:28:32 AM
No, you're stupid.  My "military evaluation" was made in jest.  It was a joke wherein I pointed out that I was bad at polishing my boots and taking lint off my beret but I was good at fighting in wars.  My point was to show how much of a joke the Canadian Forces is that cares more about how shiny a soldier's boots are than how physically fit he is.  I saw fat soldiers with shiny boots being praised.  It's ridiculous.  ::)

The evaluation was made in jest.  You were too stupid to get that part though.

Having said this I will produce the photo tomorrow with $9,900 and today's newspaper.  No matter how you cut it, it will be a real photo.

At which point I will leave you pissing up your leg claiming the photo was fake or that I borrowed the money from someone else for the photo.  As if people just casually have $9,900 lying around to have a picture taken of for someone else.  ::)

But again, you will be left pissing up your leg, that's the point.
You don`t have any monetary value whatsoever.  I feel most sorry that you have two children and are forcing them to live your sorry life of poverty.  You will probably teach them the value of "hard work" and "suffering" and will come up with every excuse as to why all of you live in the poorest section of town in the hopes they won`t question the leaky roof over their heads and the busted fenders on their daddy`s Hyundai. All "hard work" and "suffering" (despite the meaningless string of menial jobs followed by more menial jobs) with nothing to show for it.  

You won`t produce a thing you dim-witted shamster.  Don`t bother to show your genetically inferior beak around here anymore.  GETBIG is done with you.  We have wiped our hands clean with your antisemitism and your phony wannabe conservative persona.  Nobody likes you.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 01:33:56 AM
You don`t have any monetary value whatsoever.  I feel most sorry that you have two children and are forcing them to live your sorry life of poverty.  You will probably teach them the value of "hard work" and "suffering" and will come up with every excuse as to why all of you live in the poorest section of town in the hopes they won`t question the leaky roof over their heads and the busted fenders on their daddy`s Hyundai. All "hard work" and "suffering" (despite the meaningless string of menial jobs followed by more menial jobs) with nothing to show for it.  

You won`t produce a thing you dim-witted shamster.  Don`t bother to show your genetically inferior beak around here anymore.  GETBIG is done with you.  We have wiped our hands clean with your antisemitism and you phony wannabe conservative persona.  Nobody likes you.

ROFL!  ;D

The picture will be posted tomorrow at which point you will be left to piss up your own legs.  I just hope the end result is that you shut up.

I will post proof.  At which point I expect you to post proof of your Physics degree.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2010, 01:45:09 AM
ROFL!  ;D

The picture will be posted tomorrow at which point you will be left to piss up your own legs.  I just hope the end result is that you shut up.

I will post proof.  At which point I expect you to post proof of your Physics degree.
You won`t post anything you mindless bankrupt deadbeat scoundrel.   You don`t have two dimes of your own to rub together.  Only bums  masquerade as you do when the reality is as cold and as harsh as a Donner Winter Party; your website is a broke down ghost-town, your body is horrible rubbish and your intelligence, according to James Watson and your military evaluation, is average to below average.

There not much left here to discuss other than your pathetic attempts to back peddle your tandem of self-delusion into the brick wall of reality.  Heres to hoping that occurs.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 01:46:02 AM
Back to the original post:

DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.

So profits are evil?  Then I take it that you get all of your food from a soup kitchen and not a grocery store?  ::)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 01:47:06 AM
You won`t post anything you mindless bankrupt deadbeat scoundrel.   You don`t have two dimes of your own to rub together.  Only bums  masquerade as you do when the reality is as cold and as harsh as a Donner Winter Party; your website is a broke down ghost-town, your body is horrible rubbish and your intelligence, according to James Watson and your military evaluation, is average to below average.

There not much left here to discuss other than your pathetic attempts to back peddle your tandem of self-delusion into the brick wall of reality.  Heres to hoping that occurs.

http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2010, 01:57:47 AM
Back to the original post:

So profits are evil?  Then I take it that you get all of your food from a soup kitchen and not a grocery store?  ::)
Again since you lack the comprehension and wherewithal to follow along-

Socialism and Capitalism are not mutually exclusive and can certainly work nicely together and coincide with one another.

Your poor level of understanding is clouded by your emotional sub-par reactive brain which is a clear characteristic of your genetic profile.  You most likely have a damaged hippocampus (genetic defect) or some sort of temporal lobe deficiency which heightens the expression of the "reptilian" limbic brain.

You can`t help it.  Its just your mediocre genetics coupled with an overly indigent peer group which has resulted in producing the inglorious work of self-deluded fiction known as Matt Canning.



Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 01:58:39 AM
DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.

Something tells me that being unmarried and with a child, you may be receiving some sort of government benefits from Canada. hmmmm

Let me see if I understand you correctly: You are a socialist who makes fun of people who you [falsely] think utilize socialist services?  ::)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 20, 2010, 01:59:32 AM
Alright, fair enough.

Certainly I have no objection with a racial group engaging in self-preservation and self-determination as is the goal of the state of Israel.  My objection would be in Jewish groups such as the ADL and the SPLC openly advocating against the preservation of European people.  From the Jewish run ADL:

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/Backgrounder:+American+Third+Position.htm

Note that all they can do is smear the A3P by screaming "racism" and "anti-Semitic".  The usual tricks.

Now note the double standard:

http://www.adl.org/about.asp

Now look at the people the ADL is against:

http://www.american3p.org/?p=464

So it's alright to stand up for your ethnic group interests if you are Jewish apparently, but don't dare do it if you are White!  That would be racist.

Now observe the comments from the Jewish run SPLC:

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/04/16/white-nationalist-website-vdare-in-trouble-loses-big-funder

If Jews feel that immigration in the USA is such a good thing, wouldn't it be a good thing for Israel as well?  Clearly Jews do not want liberal immigration policies for Israel, so how come Jews are so keen on advancing non-White immigration in predominantly White societies?

Again, these double standards are clear.

ADL is an extremist group I don't support.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: wes on April 20, 2010, 02:06:30 AM
TA,bringing the pain to Matt "The Gaylord" Canning!!  LOL   :D


I love it!  ;D


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 20, 2010, 02:09:26 AM
BTW, when TA said that Nobody here likes you I think he was talking about me. I'm Nobody here and I like you. (no homo)

"I see nobody on the road," said Alice.

"I only wish I had such eyes," the King remarked in a fretful tone. "To be able to see Nobody! And at that distance too! Why, it's as much as I can do to see real people, by this light."

-- Lewis Carroll, Through The Looking-Glass: And What Alice Found There


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 02:11:48 AM
Again since you lack the comprehension and wherewithal to follow along-

Socialism and Capitalism are not mutually exclusive and can certainly work nicely together and coincide with one another.

Your poor level of understanding is clouded by your emotional sub-par reactive brain which is a clear characteristic of your genetic profile.  You most likely have a damaged hippocampus (genetic defect) or some sort of temporal lobe deficiency which heightens the expression of the "reptilian" limbic brain.

You can`t help it.  Its just your mediocre genetics coupled with an overly indigent peer group which has resulted in producing the inglorious work of self-deluded fiction known as Matt Canning.

You use pseudo-babble like this to sound smart to people who have no clue what you are talking about.  But in truth you sound silly and why do you need to speak in such complex terms to begin with?  You could merely say something along the lines of my knowledge/intelligence is limited on the subject of socialism [according to you] and I'm in no position to talk about it.  Of course I would disagree with this, but instead you essentially say the same thing using big words to sound impressive.

Socialism is a miserable failure.  Capitalism made the USA the most successful nation in the world and you seek to overthrow it or greatly reduce it.  It's ridiculous.  Also, if you can afford health insurance what is your problem?  Or is the problem that you cannot afford it?

ADL is an extremist group I don't support.


I agree and I believe they make more legitimate endorsers of Jewish interests look bad.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 20, 2010, 02:16:09 AM
TA,bringing the pain to Matt "The Gaylord" Canning!!  LOL   :D


I love it!  ;D

You grisley, ornery, Beast -- always fanning the flames. BTW, does TA give you credit you rightly deserve for educating him on the science of nutrition? That you were his mentor, his guru, his Pai Mei, his Obi Wan Kenobi? Remember, I go way back with you on IronAge before it became a pussy old fogey board and they kicked me off. I remember TA when he was just a lost pup seeking guidance. They grow up so fast.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 02:26:37 AM
You grisley, ornery, Beast -- always fanning the flames. BTW, does TA give you credit you rightly deserve for educating him on the science of nutrition? That you were his mentor, his guru, his Pai Mei, his Obi Wan Kenobi? Remember, I go way back with you on IronAge before it became a pussy old fogey board and they kicked me off. I remember TA when he was just a lost pup seeking guidance. They grow up so fast.


I utilized the TA principles and my results were alright I guess, but nothing spectacular.  TA acted as if he had a magic solution that no one else in the industry has ever came across which is the typical selling point of a charlatan.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: WOOO on April 20, 2010, 02:29:55 AM
Americans are insane.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 02:32:22 AM
Americans are insane.

You sound like a Canadian.  ;D

I find it typical of Canadians to complain about Americans and the war in Iraq as they continue to drive their gas-guzzling car for instance.

I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, I just find that the average Canadian is not grateful for the military protection that the US awards Canada.  I apologize if you are not Canadian.  :)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 20, 2010, 02:45:37 AM
You sound like a Canadian.  ;D

I find it typical of Canadians to complain about Americans and the war in Iraq as they continue to drive their gas-guzzling car for instance.

I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, I just find that the average Canadian is not grateful for the military protection that the US awards Canada.  I apologize if you are not Canadian.  :)

And this is why I (and Nobody) loves you. (no homo).

Same applies to Western Europe and why they've been able to finance their Socialism as we were footing the bill for their protection for 60 years. And they sniff their nose at us. But the chickens are coming home to roost -- as they will soon be for us with Obama leading the way.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 02:53:31 AM
And this is why I (and Nobody) loves you. (no homo).

Same applies to Western Europe and why they've been able to finance their Socialism as we were footing the bill for their protection for 60 years. And they sniff their nose at us. But the chickens are coming home to roost -- as they will soon be for us with Obama leading the way.

Tell me about it.  Not to mention the US has provided enormous support to Israel and provided more support to Haiti than any other country.  Yet does the US ever get credit for it?  No, of course not.  ::)  They just get bashed by self-righteous lefties, "liberal" Canadians and others who notice all of the bad but none of the good.  It's ridiculous.

Given the vast natural resources that Canada has, I am grateful that the US is providing protection for Canada because it would not be particularly difficult for a foreign power to invade the country given Canada's limited military resources.  You rarely hear Canadians mention that and it is something that annoys me about a lot of them - not all of them though, as some are grateful for the US and what it does for Canada, me for starters.  8)


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 20, 2010, 02:56:14 AM
Tell me about it.  Not to mention the US has provided enormous support to Israel and provided more support to Haiti than any other country.  Yet does the US ever get credit for it?  No, of course not.  ::)  They just get bashed by self-righteous lefties, "liberal" Canadians and others who notice all of the bad but none of the good.  It's ridiculous.

Given the vast natural resources that Canada has, I am grateful that the US is providing protection for Canada because it would not be particularly difficult for a foreign power to invade the country given Canada's limited military resources.  You rarely hear Canadians mention that and it is something that annoys me about a lot of them - not all of them though, as some are grateful for the US and what it does for Canada, me for starters.  8)

God speed to you, my Canadian friend.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 20, 2010, 03:07:01 AM
BTW, you have nothing to prove to TA. He sounds like a spoiled brat of privilege  who never worked an honest day in his life or even got his hands dirty. Instead of gratitude and humility he sniffs his nose at those who do the day to day honest work that keeps him so warm and comfy. And ridicules the soldiers that pledge their lives for this country to keep him safe and secure.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 03:37:05 AM
God speed to you, my Canadian friend.

Thanks!  :)

BTW, you have nothing to prove to TA. He sounds like a spoiled brat of privilege  who never worked an honest day in his life or even got his hands dirty. Instead of gratitude and humility he sniffs his nose at those who do the day to day honest work that keeps him so warm and comfy. And ridicules the soldiers that pledge their lives for this country to keep him safe and secure.

Tell me about it.  He probably had a nurturing mother and I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it might explain why he wants everything to be provided for everyone.  My point is that socialism does the exact opposite of this - I wish TA would judge a system based on its results rather than its intentions.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Topskin69 on April 20, 2010, 04:16:28 AM
Thanks!  :)

Tell me about it.  He probably had a nurturing mother and I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it might explain why he wants everything to be provided for everyone.  My point is that socialism does the exact opposite of this - I wish TA would judge a system based on its results rather than its intentions.

Well... this is a problem with a lot of more liberal minded people... What is practical, and what is Ideal, are hardly in agreement with each other, yet this seems to be beyond many peoples grasp.

I have no problem with saying that Capitalism works, because clearly it does. I do have a problem with romanticising it however. It works because it rewards us on playing up our flaws, or perhaps to put it differently, it allows some of the more negative aspects of the human condition, to reach their logical conclusion.

If anything I would take a more Machiavellian stance towards things. Being pragmatic and practically minded, (which in the case of this topic would be in favor of Capitalism), is what is necessary, despite it not being "the way it would be ideally."


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 20, 2010, 04:43:16 AM
Damn Matt C and TA can type like mofo's it's taken me all day just to read one page.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 20, 2010, 06:23:23 AM
Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
@ 2006-02-27 16:47:00


      
 

MCCI.
I admit I was looking for a reason to quit that place. Pretty much the slightest injustice would have set me off, e.g., not having orange juice in the vending machine.

But the injustice I found as an excuse to leave was a pretty legit one: there were some bonus shifts given that came with a $50 US cash bonus if they were worked. The rules were much like a stat holiday. However, the team I was working on was not added to the email list by the time the rules were sent and therefore I didn't know what they were (received no email or information). Another employee on my team quit out of principle - she arrived late and was denied her bonus, yet hadn't been adequately informed of the rules. I was absent the shift after the bonus shift and did not receive my bonus because of that. When she quit, I decided to really put some pressure on MCCI by threatening to quit also. I made it pretty simple: give me the money I earned, and if not, my two weeks notice start today (Saturday).

Ouch. Corporations don't like it when people like me rightfully tip the balance of power away from them. They made a gamble, which corporations often make: they decided to screw me out of $100US thinking they could keep it which the outsourcing corporation (Verizon) already gave them, as well as two skilled employees. They thought wrong, and this little financial gamble cost them the time and training costs associated with us (minimum of $2000 each).

All for $100. Poor business move. Especially because there was another employee who also quit, for multiple reasons, one of which was the bonus issue. The people at Human Resources were furious at me. I think they really felt this one - I could tell they knew full well the mistake they made.

Now could you imagine if Verizon found out what their outsourcing company was doing? Stuff like this will result in MCCI losing their contract.



I have to say that's pretty pathetic.  When I was being laid off from Alltel, some people were trying to go to court and do this and that but I just took all the money I could including the fat severence pay and took my happy ass on instead of wasting it on crap like that.

MCCI is one of the largest suppliers of USB ports and they could care less about Matt's demands for his bonus or 2 week notice.  Matt is smart enough to have known that.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: no one on April 20, 2010, 07:08:07 AM
Your lack of empathy is sickening.


ahahahahaha

good.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: lax on April 20, 2010, 07:17:25 AM
there are no victims
only volunteers

you dim, ugly fuck


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: lax on April 20, 2010, 07:20:41 AM
And this is why I (and Nobody) loves you. (no homo).

Same applies to Western Europe and why they've been able to finance their Socialism as we were footing the bill for their protection for 60 years. And they sniff their nose at us. But the chickens are coming home to roost -- as they will soon be for us with Obama leading the way.

yes
the muslim infestation in europe is taking care of their asses just fine


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: lax on April 20, 2010, 07:25:39 AM
You won`t post anything you mindless bankrupt deadbeat scoundrel.   You don`t have two dimes of your own to rub together.  Only bums  masquerade as you do when the reality is as cold and as harsh as a Donner Winter Party; your website is a broke down ghost-town, your body is horrible rubbish and your intelligence, according to James Watson and your military evaluation, is average to below average.

There not much left here to discuss other than your pathetic attempts to back peddle your tandem of self-delusion into the brick wall of reality.  Heres to hoping that occurs.

rarely do I see anyone strive to write/speak in such erudite fashion
and fail

you try too hard, dude


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 01:13:30 PM


I have to say that's pretty pathetic.  When I was being laid off from Alltel, some people were trying to go to court and do this and that but I just took all the money I could including the fat severence pay and took my happy ass on instead of wasting it on crap like that.

MCCI is one of the largest suppliers of USB ports and they could care less about Matt's demands for his bonus or 2 week notice.  Matt is smart enough to have known that.

That's true Vince, but I believe it was three of us who quit over the bonus issue so I seem to doubt that the training time was worth their losing the $6,000 they paid in training.  Also, the issue was legitimately their mistake - there were certain terms for getting the bonus which some of us were not informed of and we had evidence of this.  I could have disputed it but just decided to drop it.  That absolutely cemented that I cannot ever work for another person.

Also, it points out a flaw of capitalism - that not everyone follows the rules perfectly which may require regulation.  However, as a libertarian I would argue that if one employer is corrupt that the free market will have a demand for employers who are not and the market should be more or less self-correcting.  I am kind of idealistic when it comes to capitalism though.

The US system is excellent, even if imperfect.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 20, 2010, 03:45:54 PM
Again Chimps I must ask you why you are incapable of offering a counterpoint, based on philosophical reasoning, and a well constructed argument.You are clearly intelligent and well read, surely you can put down the quick, "Throw a Bon Mott and run!" strategy long enough to actually refute Matt C.

I am not even talking about this post/thread specifically, but rather in general, you have a tendency to be condescending, without actually offering any sort of decent rebuttal.

Apparently you are living the Getbig way!  :-[

when Matt and Coach post I usually just scroll past them and read Dr. Chimps' clever retorts


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 20, 2010, 04:31:28 PM
That's true Vince, but I believe it was three of us who quit over the bonus issue so I seem to doubt that the training time was worth their losing the $6,000 they paid in training.  Also, the issue was legitimately their mistake - there were certain terms for getting the bonus which some of us were not informed of and we had evidence of this.  I could have disputed it but just decided to drop it.  That absolutely cemented that I cannot ever work for another person.

Also, it points out a flaw of capitalism - that not everyone follows the rules perfectly which may require regulation.  However, as a libertarian I would argue that if one employer is corrupt that the free market will have a demand for employers who are not and the market should be more or less self-correcting.  I am kind of idealistic when it comes to capitalism though.

The US system is excellent, even if imperfect.


$6,000 is nothing to a company like MCCI, Matt.  Your protest didn't matter whatsoever


As far as our healthcare system, Adonis is somewhat right.  Our healthcare system sucks because its a for profit system.  They treat patients based on whether they can pay or not.  If they can, they get great treatment, if not...you get set home to die for the most part.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side.


As far as the value of your website is concerned, I think you've seriously overvalued it for what it is.  You have not updated your main page since you first built it and quite frankly, it looks seriously out of date and in need of work and your ads on the discussion board don't flow too well


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 05:14:25 PM

$6,000 is nothing to a company like MCCI, Matt.  Your protest didn't matter whatsoever


As far as our healthcare system, Adonis is somewhat right.  Our healthcare system sucks because its a for profit system.  They treat patients based on whether they can pay or not.  If they can, they get great treatment, if not...you get set home to die for the most part.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side.


As far as the value of your website is concerned, I think you've seriously overvalued it for what it is.  You have not updated your main page since you first built it and quite frankly, it looks seriously out of date and in need of work and your ads on the discussion board don't flow too well

I still don't see how it was worth MCCI $6,000 to steal $210 in bonus monies from Verizon that rightfully belonged to their employees.  Seems like weighing the costs and the benefits, that decision made no sense.  I could be wrong though but I just don't see how that decision was a sound one.

In reality they figured no one would quit over it and they could have the best of both worlds.  It didn't work out that way.

As for the value of my website - it's huge and I have put in over 10,000 hours of work into it.  Cleaning up the main page template is something I want to do immediately but I need to find someone adequate to do it for me first.  When the template was created in 2002, it was a good one.

Bodybuilding.com's SuperSite template is nothing spectacular, but it does the job and I wish to improve my template to one resembling that.  Honestly, this is not hard to do, it's just that being one person my website is hard to manage alone.  Any given business is worth 3-5 years revenue so I have no reason to believe that my website is not worth $100,000.  Plus if I sold it for that amount, what could I invest that money in which would pay off as much as my website has?

As for the grass being greener, you are correct - but this applies to you too.  The Canadian system is good but certainly not tremendously better than the US system.  Keep in mind the grass being greener does go both ways.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 20, 2010, 05:55:00 PM
I still don't see how it was worth MCCI $6,000 to steal $210 in bonus monies from Verizon that rightfully belonged to their employees.  Seems like weighing the costs and the benefits, that decision made no sense.  I could be wrong though but I just don't see how that decision was a sound one.

In reality they figured no one would quit over it and they could have the best of both worlds.  It didn't work out that way.

As for the value of my website - it's huge and I have put in over 10,000 hours of work into it.  Cleaning up the main page template is something I want to do immediately but I need to find someone adequate to do it for me first.  When the template was created in 2002, it was a good one.

Bodybuilding.com's SuperSite template is nothing spectacular, but it does the job and I wish to improve my template to one resembling that.  Honestly, this is not hard to do, it's just that being one person my website is hard to manage alone.  Any given business is worth 3-5 years revenue so I have no reason to believe that my website is not worth $100,000.  Plus if I sold it for that amount, what could I invest that money in which would pay off as much as my website has?

As for the grass being greener, you are correct - but this applies to you too.  The Canadian system is good but certainly not tremendously better than the US system.  Keep in mind the grass being greener does go both ways.

I run 9 different websites and I manage just fine, you simply just have to take the time to do the work with only has to be done every few years.  Quite frankly, if you are self employed like I am, time isn't even an issue. 

Honestly, you can't afford not to.  Your only getting discussion board traffic which doesn't pay anything. 


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2010, 10:25:59 PM
I run 9 different websites and I manage just fine, you simply just have to take the time to do the work with only has to be done every few years.  Quite frankly, if you are self employed like I am, time isn't even an issue. 

Honestly, you can't afford not to.  Your only getting discussion board traffic which doesn't pay anything. 

It's true but in my case it is not a matter of time but a matter of skill.  I could create a better template but I want to hire a professional to create a great template - one that would be a complete improvement of the current old look.

My discussion board traffic is up, but this is the traffic area of the site that is growing.  For years it was just the main site that got the traffic.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: jesusbod on April 21, 2010, 10:27:05 AM
What is the point of posting this? I DO NOT Support A Profit Based Health Insurance system which is what Obama`s plan is.  Its no different than what you had last year, 20 years etc...Its just a tiny, tiny, bit better but it still keeps the Health Insurance companies at the forefront which means the profit motive is intact as they rack up by continually not covering care.


I do not support Obama`s plan. I support Universal Nationalized Single Payer Healthcare open to all.

you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first. If the voters have anything to say about it, your Precious Obama will be history in 2012. I just hope the Conservative that gets elected can reverse the damage P-BO has done and will do until then.,..


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 21, 2010, 02:09:49 PM
you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first. If the voters have anything to say about it, your Precious Obama will be history in 2012. I just hope the Conservative that gets elected can reverse the damage P-BO has done and will do until then.,..

Very well said.  It's not that I am a fan of Bush but the US middle class is not exactly benefiting from Obama's big government interventionism.  I would be shocked if Obama makes it to a second term


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2010, 02:55:06 PM
Very well said.  It's not that I am a fan of Bush but the US middle class is not exactly benefiting from Obama's big government interventionism.  I would be shocked if Obama makes it to a second term
(http://www.cbpp.org/images/cms//4-14-10tax-f1.jpg)


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3151&emailView=1



Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families at Historically Low Levels

By Chuck Marr and Gillian Brunet
April 14, 2010




  Middle-income Americans are now paying federal taxes at or near historically low levels, according to the latest available data. That’s true whether it comes to their federal income taxes or their total federal taxes.
Income taxes: A family of four in the exact middle of the income spectrum will pay only 4.6 percent of its income in federal income taxes this year, according to a new analysis by the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center. This is the second-lowest percentage in the past 50 years.
 Overall federal taxes: Middle-income households are paying overall federal taxes — which include income as well as payroll and excise taxes — at or near their lowest levels in decades, according to the latest data from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).



Federal Income Taxes Have Declined Significantly in Recent Decades

Federal income taxes on middle-income families have declined significantly in recent decades (see Figure 1).
In 2000, the year before the 2001 tax cut that President Bush and Congress enacted, the median-income family of four paid 8.0 percent of its income in individual income taxes, according to Tax Policy Center estimates — a smaller share than in any year since 1967 (except for 1998 and 1999). [1] The Bush tax cuts further reduced middle-income tax obligations.
This year, the Making Work Pay tax credit, which President Obama and Congress enacted as part of the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, is providing a credit of $800 to married joint filers ($400 to single filers). A median-income family with two children thus will receive an $800 tax cut in the return it files this year.
With the new tax cut, the median family’s federal income taxes will equal just 4.6 percent of its income in 2009. That is lower than in any year since 1955 (the first year for which these data are available) except for 2008, when another stimulus-related tax cut was in effect.
The 4.6 percent effective tax rate — the percentage of its income that a family pays in taxes — is well below the 15 percent marginal tax rate that a family of four in the exact middle of the income spectrum faces. Typically, such a family reduces its effective tax rate by taking the standard deduction (or, in some cases, itemized deductions), personal exemptions, and tax credits such as the child tax credit. The Making Work Pay tax credit further reduces that family’s effective tax rate.

Overall Federal Taxes Also at Low Levels
The decline in income taxes on middle-class households in recent years has driven a decline in these households’ overall federal taxes.
Households in the middle fifth of the income spectrum paid an average of 14.2 percent of their income in overall federal taxes in 2006, the latest year for which data are available, according to CBO.[2] This is just slightly above this group’s effective tax rate of 13.8 percent in 2003, which was the lowest level since at least 1979.
Most Americans pay more in payroll taxes, which support Social Security and Medicare, than they do in income taxes. Thus, the 14.2 percent figure reflects the impact of payroll taxes far more than income taxes.
Due to the impact of the recession and the temporary tax cuts in the Recovery Act, particularly the Making Work Pay tax credit, CBO data for 2009 (when they become available) will likely show that middle-income families faced significantly lower effective overall federal tax rates than in 2006.


End Notes:
[1] Tax Policy Center, “Historical Federal Income Tax Rates for a Family of Four,” April 12, 2010. The Tax Policy Center’s estimates were derived by updating (using Treasury’s methodology) a 1998 Treasury Department analysis that examined changes since 1955 in the percentage of income that the median-income family of four pays in federal income taxes.
[2] The CBO study covers the 1979-2006 period and includes federal income, payroll, and excise taxes. Congressional Budget Office, “Historical Effective Federal Tax Rates, 1979-2006,” April 2009.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2010, 02:59:37 PM
Very well said.  It's not that I am a fan of Bush but the US middle class is not exactly benefiting from Obama's big government interventionism.  I would be shocked if Obama makes it to a second term
http://www.propublica.org/special/government-bailouts




Bailouts which Bush gave us,

Airline Industry   2001   The terrorist attacks of September 11 crippled an already financially troubled industry. To bail out the airlines, President Bush signed into law the Air Transportation Safety and Stabilization Act, which compensated airlines for the mandatory grounding of aircraft after the attacks. The act released $5 billion in compensation and an additional $10 billion in loan guarantees or other federal credit instruments. (What happened after the bailout?)   $18.6 billion
●   Bear Stearns   2008    JP Morgan Chase and the federal government bailed out Bear Stearns when the financial giant neared collapse. JP Morgan purchased Bear Stearns for $236 million; the Federal Reserve provided a $30 billion credit line to ensure the sale could move forward.   $30 billion
●   Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac   2008   On Sep. 7, 2008, Fannie and Freddie were essentially nationalized: placed under the conservatorship of the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Under the terms of the rescue, the Treasury has invested billions to cover the companies' losses. Initially, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson put a ceiling of $100 billion for investments in each company. In February, Tim Geithner raised it to $200 billion. The money was authorized by the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008.   $400 billion
●   American International Group (A.I.G.)   2008   On four separate occasions, the government has offered aid to AIG to keep it from collapsing, rising from an initial $85 billion credit line from the Federal Reserve to a combined $180 billion effort between the Treasury ($70 billion) and Fed ($110 billion). ($40 billion of the Treasury’s commitment is also included in the TARP total.)   $180 billion
●   Auto Industry   2008   In late September 2008, Congress approved a more than $630 billion spending bill, which included a measure for $25 billion in loans to the auto industry. These low-interest loans are intended to aid the industry in its push to build more fuel-efficient, environmentally-friendly vehicles. The Detroit 3 -- General Motors, Ford and Chrysler -- will be the primary beneficiaries.   $25 billion
●   Troubled Asset Relief Program   2008   In October 2008, Congress passed the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, which authorized the Treasury Department to spend $700 billion to combat the financial crisis. Treasury has been doling out the money via an alphabet soup of different programs. Here’s our running tally of companies getting TARP funds.   $700 billion
●   Citigroup   2008   Citigroup received a $25 billion investment through the TARP in October and another $20 billion in November. (That $45 billion is also included in the TARP total.) Additional aid has come in the form of government guarantees to limit losses from a $301 billion pool of toxic assets. In addition to the Treasury's $5 billion commitment, the FDIC has committed $10 billion and the Federal Reserve up to about $220 billion.   $280 billion


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: Matt C on April 21, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
Bailouts which Bush gave us,

Yeah so let's just give the government more power under the promise of social spending and just cross our fingers and hope that this power doesn't get abused in the fashion above ever again.  ::)

Brilliant.


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: pellius on April 21, 2010, 04:11:13 PM
Yeah so let's just give the government more power under the promise of social spending and just cross our fingers and hope that this power doesn't get abused in the fashion above ever again.  ::)

Brilliant.

Still owning the pampered cut and paste girly boy.



Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: The True Adonis on April 21, 2010, 04:29:25 PM
Yeah so let's just give the government more power under the promise of social spending and just cross our fingers and hope that this power doesn't get abused in the fashion above ever again.  ::)

Brilliant.
???
Oh I don`t have time to explain the collapse of the American Financial Market due to lax regulation.

I`m done with you Matt C.  You are not well versed enough to even argue with.  Join our political board if you wish to get into it. 

Also, how is that bank transaction coming along.   ;D


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: honest on April 21, 2010, 04:46:29 PM
???
.

I`m done with you Matt C.  You are not well versed enough to even argue with.  Join our political board if you wish to get into it. 


It took you seven pages to realise  ???


Title: Re: DENNIS TINERINO: A Victim of America`s Crappy For Profit HEALTHCARE system.
Post by: jesusbod on April 25, 2010, 10:47:51 AM
???
Oh I don`t have time to explain the collapse of the American Financial Market due to lax regulation.

I`m done with you Matt C.  You are not well versed enough to even argue with.  Join our political board if you wish to get into it. 

Also, how is that bank transaction coming along.   ;D


Amazing how you fucking Liberals come up with the whole "I'm done with you" post when you have nothing else to throw at someone that is correct in their post. Go Home and regroup, you really need some alone time to think about your Utopia type world.