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« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2010, 01:56:11 PM »

Yes, because if you embrace Capitalism, you too could own a car like MATT C.

Great Success!


Something tells me that being unmarried and with a child, you may be receiving some sort of government benefits from Canada. hmmmm
I like that car = no payments
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« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2010, 01:59:01 PM »

I like that car = no payments
The car broke down and hardly ran according to his Live Journal account.  It was all he could afford.  He was REALLY down and out about being poor and broke.  He was even running his site then.  LeafyBug and I still have the screenshots before he melted down and pulled it.

There is also a thread archived here that may deserve bumping up for reference.
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« Reply #52 on: April 19, 2010, 01:59:48 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2010, 02:14:19 PM »

2 children, unmarried and not a pot to piss in yet espousing the ideals of Capitalism whilst living in Canada sucking off its system.

You couldn`t make it up if you tried.


http://www.websiteoutlook.com/
This site says that your website is worth:
Estimated Worth $16,242.5 USD

Don`t spend it all in one place there big shot.

According to that website, getbig is worth $78,672.10.  Now do you honestly think getbig - which gets in excess of 20,000 unique visitors each day - is worth that little?

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.getbig.com

I'm not sucking off Canada's system - at the hospital I paid to get a private room after my son was born which costs around $200 or so - I couldn't get the room because Aboriginals get all the private rooms for free and White people can't even pay to get the rooms.  Oh yeah, socialized medicine is great.  Roll Eyes  Of course I have no choice in the matter because in Canada it is illegal to offer private health care.  You know what other country does that?  North Korea!

I am also a slumlord TA.  I don't think I mentioned that on here.  The market where I am is good.  You do realize that I have not worked since I was 21 right?

What will bankrupt the USA is more socialist intervention.  You do realize that other countries all over the world have tried communism don't you?  Guess what - it was a miserable failure and came at a massive human cost.  It's been tried and if you really wanted to live in a more socialist country you would go live in one.  Instead you choose to live in one of the most capitalist countries on earth and you seek to overthrow the very principles which has produced all the wealth and prosperity that you enjoy.
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« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2010, 02:23:15 PM »

According to that website, getbig is worth $78,672.10.  Now do you honestly think getbig - which gets in excess of 20,000 unique visitors each day - is worth that little?

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.getbig.com

I'm not sucking off Canada's system - at the hospital I paid to get a private room after my son was born which costs around $200 or so - I couldn't get the room because Aboriginals get all the private rooms for free and White people can't even pay to get the rooms.  Oh yeah, socialized medicine is great.  Roll Eyes  Of course I have no choice in the matter because in Canada it is illegal to offer private health care.  You know what other country does that?  North Korea!

I am also a slumlord TA.  I don't think I mentioned that on here.  The market where I am is good.  You do realize that I have not worked since I was 21 right?

What will bankrupt the USA is more socialist intervention.  You do realize that other countries all over the world have tried communism don't you?  Guess what - it was a miserable failure and came at a massive human cost.  It's been tried and if you really wanted to live in a more socialist country you would go live in one.  Instead you choose to live in one of the most capitalist countries on earth and you seek to overthrow the very principles which has produced all the wealth and prosperity that you enjoy.

I'm going to have to agree with my good friend Matt C!
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« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2010, 02:33:38 PM »

I'm going to have to agree with my good friend Matt C!

If it's so easy to provide everyone with "free" health care, why not provide it to the 2.6 billion people who live on under $2 per day?  Also, TA claims to consume a $50 bottle of wine each day - does he not realize this can save the lives of 50 malnourished children?

Oh yeah, TA cares about the poor alright.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2010, 02:41:11 PM »

According to that website, getbig is worth $78,672.10.  Now do you honestly think getbig - which gets in excess of 20,000 unique visitors each day - is worth that little?

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.getbig.com

I'm not sucking off Canada's system - at the hospital I paid to get a private room after my son was born which costs around $200 or so - I couldn't get the room because Aboriginals get all the private rooms for free and White people can't even pay to get the rooms.  Oh yeah, socialized medicine is great.  Roll Eyes  Of course I have no choice in the matter because in Canada it is illegal to offer private health care.  You know what other country does that?  North Korea!

I am also a slumlord TA.  I don't think I mentioned that on here.  The market where I am is good.  You do realize that I have not worked since I was 21 right?

What will bankrupt the USA is more socialist intervention.  You do realize that other countries all over the world have tried communism don't you?  Guess what - it was a miserable failure and came at a massive human cost.  It's been tried and if you really wanted to live in a more socialist country you would go live in one.  Instead you choose to live in one of the most capitalist countries on earth and you seek to overthrow the very principles which has produced all the wealth and prosperity that you enjoy.
That sounds right for Getbig which is just a hobby for Ron as he has stated on numerous occasions.  Your website worth is also calculated similarly on other sites around the 12,000-16,000 range on every single one.

So I am inclined to believe real time web statistics from multiple sites than your nonsense bullshit estimates.  You are living a complete fantasy that does not exist.  You used to be a bouncer in a hole in the wall club, so your claim of "not working" since 2001 is again, Bullshit.

Your lies have gotten to the point where you believe them and that is dangerous.

Here is your website worth on another site, www.mywebsiteworth.com :
$ 13,179


You can do this on many other sites and you will get about the same result.

I do not believe you are a "slum lord" as I doubt a person who is renting out a piece of property they own would refer to themselves as such. You know, it might be a bit bad for business if you go around shouting that from the rooftops which no sensible property owner would do.  Especially when you are so easy to find on the internet.  You have given no indication that you own anything.

A few years ago, you stated in your Live Journal that you were renting.  I have pictures of your roommates. You were also bitching about them in your posts.  Now you are claiming to own "properties" as if by magic.  I don`t believe a word of it.

You are also misinformed on Private Health Insurance in Canada. About 65 percent of people have Private Insurance. content.healthaffairs.or g/cgi/reprint/25/3/878.pdf

Communism is not Socialism but its obvious you don`t know the difference and I think its a waste of time trying to explain.  Socialism has worked in the United States in many cities, Milwaukee for 60 years in the 20th century,  during its time it was voted the number one city to live in the United States (by Time magazine and other publications) year after year.  Socialism has always been with the United States, like it or not.  The very motto for the United States should be, Socialism for the rich, Capitalism for the poor.

Socialism is also flourishing in many Scandinavian countries as well.  I don`t have to leave America, I would rather see it fixed.  I love America but I also recognize it could be better in many aspects.

Why do you live in Canada?  I bet you can`t afford to live in the United States perhaps.
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« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2010, 02:45:36 PM »

I'm going to have to agree with my good friend Matt C!
He is full of bullshit.  Not much factual to agree with.
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« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2010, 03:02:30 PM »

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A few years ago, you stated in your Live Journal that you were renting.  I have pictures of your roommates.

Yes, I was renting my property to them, LOL.  That's my point - I'm a slumlord and I have been since 2005.

My website has been as high as top 70,000 most popular sites worldwide [or over 100 million websites] and as high as top 40,000 in the USA:

http://www.alexa.com

As I said, I highly doubt my website is worth less than $100,000.  As for getbig, it is worth substantially more.
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« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2010, 03:08:57 PM »

Yes, I was renting my property to them, LOL.  That's my point - I'm a slumlord and I have been since 2005.

My website has been as high as top 70,000 most popular sites worldwide [or over 100 million websites] and as high as top 40,000 in the USA:

http://www.alexa.com

As I said, I highly doubt my website is worth less than $100,000.  As for getbig, it is worth substantially more.
LOL. What does your bank guy assess it at?  Wink
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« Reply #60 on: April 19, 2010, 03:09:18 PM »

Yes, I was renting my property to them, LOL.  That's my point - I'm a slumlord and I have been since 2005.

My website has been as high as top 70,000 most popular sites worldwide [or over 100 million websites] and as high as top 40,000 in the USA:

http://www.alexa.com

As I said, I highly doubt my website is worth less than $100,000.  As for getbig, it is worth substantially more.
How can you be renting to them when you were dancing around semi-naked WITH them and then complaining that you had to make up for their lack of rent with your own paycheck?
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« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2010, 03:11:20 PM »

LOL. What does your bank guy assess it at?  Wink

Any business is typically worth 3-5 years revenue.

Thus there is absolutely no way based on standard valuation that my website can be worth less than that.

Also, why would I sell something which will generate that much income in a few years of owning it?  Huh  It would make no sense.
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« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2010, 03:24:52 PM »

The car broke down and hardly ran according to his Live Journal account.  It was all he could afford.  He was REALLY down and out about being poor and broke.  He was even running his site then.  LeafyBug and I still have the screenshots before he melted down and pulled it.

There is also a thread archived here that may deserve bumping up for reference.


I didn't take down anything.

And it's not so much that I can't afford something - it's that some decisions are simply unwise to make.

My credit cards and line of credits total $70,000 in credit.  Would it be a wise idea for me to spend all of that money?  Or would it be wise for me to continue to save as I have been?

So no, I'm not poor, although I am frugal.
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« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2010, 03:25:13 PM »

http://mattcanning.livejournal.com/396322.html#cutid1
Matt C's old car everybody.


The funny thing is, a few years ago I would have driven a tin box (like literally, a tin box - or even that Flinstones stuff) if it got me from A to B. I guess somewhere along the line my standards went up slightly. I am a man of utility. I'll say one thing, I did get my share of judgmental comments for driving a rusted 1989 Mazda 323, from people getting rides from me no less!! Sadly, not an isolated incident, although they were pretty rare. The reality of the situation is that I spent $900 on a car that lasted me three years and I accomplished all the goals I set out for myself in that time. That's called utility or prioritizing. I had my education and house to pay for instead of a fancy car that comes with lack of fuel efficiency and high insurance rates. I wouldn't be where I am now if I did it any other way. I'll say one thing, the second I hear a critical word about my new car from a passenger is the second they walk home. Beggers can't be choosers and I think some people need a lesson in gratitude or just knowing their place.

( Pictures of my Current Car )

New cars are never an asset and always a liability. They depreciate in value the moment you drive them off the lot by upwards of 25% and continue to depreciate from there. In some ways I take after my dad. I have his shoulders and back, I'm a conservative spender and big saver, I am a very easily pleased man, and most relevant to this post, I plan on driving clunkers for the rest of my life. If cars had a practical purpose other than going from A to B I would look at things differently. The owner of EBAY still drove his 1989 Mazda well into being a millionaire. It may very well have been the same model I own.

All in all, it's the same old thing going on in my life. The guys at MuscleTime.com have offered me free tickets to the Arnold Classic next year for helping to promote their bodybuilding DVDs. People won't just stop doing things for me. The cafeteria opens next Saturday. I have to say that as always, I've had my share of bad things happen to me, whether it be people trampling on favours I give them or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I remember as soon as my cell phone was ruined by those ice caps it didn't phase me at all - even knowing it would cost a lot to get the phone replaced. Same as when my car was broken into. No matter how much bad luck I have it seems nothing can get my spirits down lately. I think that finally after 24 and some odd years I am exactly where I want to be in life. I would be happy to have found my niche in life at 50, let alone at 24, and I think a lot of 50 year olds would be happy to find it too. I guess I'm too lucky to be angry or upset about anything for long - even for five minutes

"I would say that for my age I'm ahead of the game of life. Most people twice my age would be happy to be where I am. To be honest, I don't even care if I improve on anything from this day forward. I want to stay exactly as I am right now for as long as possible - though if I improve and if things get better"   Undecided




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« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2010, 03:27:05 PM »

Matt Canning (mattcanning) wrote,
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Put a fork in 'er she's done.
My car broke down for the last time today. Front axels are completely shot. Reminds me of those otherwise healthy people who suffer from a heart attack, but that's all it takes.

I've had bad luck with this car lately. Multiple problems plus a robbery. Not to mention another five or ten thou on a new car (which means bare minimum mortgage payments for a couple of months). I guess this is the "real world" stuff so many of my teachers used to complain about. Probably because they couldn't deal with these kinds and felt the need to warn others. Just a bump in the road in my book.



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« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2010, 03:28:56 PM »

Any business is typically worth 3-5 years revenue.

Thus there is absolutely no way based on standard valuation that my website can be worth less than that.

Also, why would I sell something which will generate that much income in a few years of owning it?  Huh  It would make no sense.
That wasn't an answer. And I'm not really shitting on you. I've had a nightmare of a time getting some, er, 'art' valuated over the years. I can't even imagine approaching my guy with a web-site. I can see him shaking his head from here.  Wink
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« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2010, 03:29:54 PM »

MONSTER MORTAGE PAYMENT.  450 a month in the United States is definitely close to living under the Overpass with the bums. hahahah . What did you thatch your roof with? Grass? Cardboard? Pizza Boxes?

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I agree. But to me, part of sound financial planning is expecting bills to be more than you would think.

My monthly bills (rounded figures):

mortgage = $450
Home Insurance = $50
Property tax = $100
Utilities = $300
Phone/cell/net = $100 (cell temporarily cancelled)
Car Insurance = $100
Fuel = $50
Food = $400

= $1550

These bills are worst case scenario - e.g., if it is a freezing cold month which results in a higher heat bill. Add in unexpected expenses which come up all the time and you have about $2,000. $3,000 is if very extreme things came up unexpectedly. Being burglarized is one example of a highly unexpected expense. I'm also on a BB diet = huge food bill.
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« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2010, 03:34:15 PM »

Haven`t had to work since 2001 you say? EL-O-EL




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Well thanks for the kind words.

I don't think I'll find what I need though - what I need is a "part time career" which makes no sense whatsoever. I personally wouldn't want to work more than 24-32 hours a week and for that matter I don't need to. Could I find a career which offers that? I don't know, it's hard to say.

I have absolutely concluded that I need to work somewhere though. Even part time volunteering would be good. But I need to spend my alone time working towards something in the company of other people. It's just too boring to do otherwise. My mom was right about that.
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« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2010, 03:37:00 PM »



Hey, why did you put my picture in this Adonis???
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« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2010, 03:37:38 PM »

LIES, LIES, LIES

You said this on
Reply #160 on: April 10, 2008, 11:55:01 PM

I haven't worked since December 2003 other than maybe 10 weeks during that time when I did.

I didn't drive to the Arnold Classic.  Grin  Do you guys believe everything you read?  Bast175 just made something up and you take it to be truth, lol.  I am actually enjoying my free time now and have no intention to work again, just do something more exciting and broaden my investment portfolio.

I was thinking of taking my Master's of Public Health next year.  What do you guys think?  I find that formal education is a nice way to expand the mind, although it is not the only way.  I think it seems like a worthwhile program though.

Discuss.

Yeah, and pretty well every other award in my high school (lots of these were damaged/destroyed in a 1998 house fire), and numerous awards since university, etc, etc.  But yes, that first high school award in grade nine is a good one, so thanks for pointing it out.  Wink


Now you have pushed the date back to 2001.  EL-o-EL
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« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2010, 03:54:35 PM »

LOL. What does this diatribe even mean, Matt!? He's a contemporary of Bolshevik Jews? I think your rhetoric is getting ahead of your righteousness. Should have just lobbed a few epithets and be done with it. That's the Getbig way.   Grin

Again Chimps I must ask you why you are incapable of offering a counterpoint, based on philosophical reasoning, and a well constructed argument.You are clearly intelligent and well read, surely you can put down the quick, "Throw a Bon Mott and run!" strategy long enough to actually refute Matt C.

I am not even talking about this post/thread specifically, but rather in general, you have a tendency to be condescending, without actually offering any sort of decent rebuttal.

Apparently you are living the Getbig way!  Embarrassed
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« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2010, 04:11:40 PM »

Again Chimps I must ask you why you are incapable of offering a counterpoint, based on philosophical reasoning, and a well constructed argument.You are clearly intelligent and well read, surely you can put down the quick, "Throw a Bon Mott and run!" strategy long enough to actually refute Matt C.

I am not even talking about this post/thread specifically, but rather in general, you have a tendency to be condescending, without actually offering any sort of decent rebuttal.

Apparently you are living the Getbig way!  Embarrassed
Ach. I get ya, Ts. I used to get all wound up and go toe-to-toe with Matt et al., but I've realized (I'm slow learner) that posting in such a manner really carries no moral or substantiative weight, and I was really probably taking Getbig seriously. Keep it funny. Keep it right. Keep it funny.   


 


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« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2010, 04:13:14 PM »

I just stopped reading after the first few posts, but come on man, who really cares?  Some guy has health problems, and money problems.  I feel for the guy, but I don't care about helping anyone.  Get some of these welfare junkies off the system and quit paying for those who don't put back into the system, and maybe, just maybe I could deal with my tax dollars going to people in real need.  I live at the oceanfront, and right near me is a small group of section 8 housing(where I think they should all be exterminated) and they live for free while I payed good money for my place.  So until you fix problems like that, Dennis will have to deal with being in debt.
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« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2010, 06:25:34 PM »

Now that the mountebank Matt C and his fraudulent standing are out of the way, we can move to more relevant issues.


Dennis Tinerino marketed himself as a Miracle Healer, which means he claimed to have the power to lay hands and cure disease and illness of all types including cancer.

While ironic, I also think it is dangerous in that he may have initially forgone treatment that could have saved his life instead of trying to "faith" heal which is obvious ignorant rubbish.  Does anyone know if this is the case?

Also, I notice his ministry is launching a similar event where they "lay hands" and claim to heal chronic diseases.

What is also dangerous is if he lulled other ignorant dullards into believing that he had the power to heal disease.  He could have been responsible or at least culpable for someone elses death or misery.

http://www.tinerino.com/events.asp

Saturday
April 24
6:00pm
Dennis Tinerino Ministries
19431 Business Center Dr., Ste 2
Northridge, CA 91324

Info:
(818) 885-5711


"Miracle Healing Service" with Joe Contaldi & Bishop Earthquake Kelley Come out and get your miracle!!![/size]


While I feel for Dennis and his plight, he should be utterly ashamed at what he was and is promoting.  I sincerely hope he gets better and realizes not only that there is no such thing as "faith healing" but also his devotion to a non-existent god was no more than pointless vanity.  Dennis plain and simple was acting as a charlatan and as a scam artist.  I hope his ministry evaporates whatever the outcome.
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« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2010, 06:39:16 PM »

I also found an interesting Review of Dennis Tinerino`s book on Amazon.  It appears he is no stranger to crime and swindle.

http://www.amazon.com/Supersize-Your-Faith-Tapping-Miracle/product-reviews/0768424089


 Inspirational, But I Have A Few Questions?, December 5, 2007
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This review is from: Supersize Your Faith: Tapping into God's Miracle Power (Paperback)
I picked up this book for two reasons. First, at age 49 I'm interested in bodybuilding from the aspect of slowing down the aging process as much as I can. Secondly, I enjoy Christian books to learn more about my Creator.

Dennis does a fine job describing his poor upbringing, the experiences he had growing up and what he had become before he found Christ. I have no doubts about his conversion and sincerity about his Christian beliefs. However I do have several questions about those beliefs.

1. Once (after you were saved) you and Anita were financially broke and you didn't know how you would pay your bills. Anita told you that she had taken $17,000 from you over a period of time and hidden it away. You said "Thank God".

Exactly where did this money come from? From pimping, and prostitution? Do you believe this is how God operates, giving ill gotten gains to Christians in their time of need? Sorry, but I don't.

When a Christian doing legitimate business has hard times and loses his business and doesn't know where to turn what do you say to him? "You should have been a pimp? Then your wife could have stashed away some of the profits and you wouldn't really be broke?"

There's an unnatural (Biblically) focus here on healing. Yes, God does do miracles everyday. The deaf hear, the blind see, the lame walk. The terminally ill are miraculously healed. Also, children die, the old and infirm die, and people are deaf and blind for life. AIDS kills thousands every day. How does God pick who lives, who is healed, and who is not or dies? Is the difference whether Dennis and his church leaders lay hands on them? I don't think so. Suffering and death have a place that I readily admit I don't understand. But healing the body is such a small portion of what God is about.

2. Several times you quote Oral Roberts. The Roberts name is a blight on Christianity (see Richard). They have done nothing but misrepresent the Gospel for years. Oral's fiasco a few years ago about God taking him home if he didn't raise x amount of dollars in y time frame did him in with me. Dennis, if Oral is a Christian, and Heaven his great reward, why wouldn't he purposely NOT raise the money?

The Paul of the New Testament was by all accounts not a handsome man. He didn't pimp or steal. His spreading of the Gospel of Jesus Christ while imprisoned got him nothing but more prison. Yet he stands as one of the giants of the Christian faith.

Dennis, I think there's a lesson here for you.
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