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Title: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Neurotoxin on January 10, 2011, 05:50:34 AM



I suspect video ends Palins political ambitions.




-NT
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: whork25 on January 10, 2011, 05:58:57 AM


Palin is a retard and has lots of stupid brainwashed followers. Her rethoric is hatefull and a stupid person could easily mistake her trash talk and resort to violence.

However without this trash talk Sarah Palin wouldnt have anything to say since she doesnt know anything but instead is relying on the feelings she enwokes in people.

So if Sarah should stop talking hate and fear she would have to retire because she would be irrelevant
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 06:20:56 AM
Palin is a retard and has lots of stupid brainwashed followers. Her rethoric is hatefull and a stupid person could easily mistake her trash talk and resort to violence.

However without this trash talk Sarah Palin wouldnt have anything to say since she doesnt know anything but instead is relying on the feelings she enwokes in people.

So if Sarah should stop talking hate and fear she would have to retire because she would be irrelevant
WOW
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Hedgehog on January 10, 2011, 06:33:54 AM
Palin is a retard and has lots of stupid brainwashed followers. Her rethoric is hatefull and a stupid person could easily mistake her trash talk and resort to violence.

However without this trash talk Sarah Palin wouldnt have anything to say since she doesnt know anything but instead is relying on the feelings she enwokes in people.

So if Sarah should stop talking hate and fear she would have to retire because she would be irrelevant

Lay off Palin. I think she's in a terrible spot right now.

She's doing the right thing and taking a "mini" timeout for the time being, trying to figure out what's going on.

Hopefully the media will respect that.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 06:34:32 AM
Lay off Palin. I think she's in a terrible spot right now.

She's doing the right thing and taking a "mini" timeout for the time being, trying to figure out what's going on.

Hopefully the media will respect that.

Did she comment on Ann Coulter yet?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 06:39:45 AM
Did she comment on Ann Coulter yet?

Does Obama comment on every idiotic thing that comes out of a democrat's mouth?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2011, 07:02:43 AM
Should we blame jodi foster for hinkley shooting reagan? 
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2011, 08:06:11 AM
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: whork25 on January 10, 2011, 08:10:04 AM
WOW

I take that as a compliment ;D
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2011, 08:15:35 AM
Funny how the lefties ignore Berzerk's post:

Yes, there is definitely a lot of hateful rhetoric in the air lately. For example:


“Don’t you think we’re not keeping score, brother” – Chairman Obama

“Bring it on”- Obama Regime to The American People.

“Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans” – Obama

“I want all Americans to get in each others faces! – Obama

“You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun” – Obama

"Republicans are our enemies"--Obama

“I am going to strangle all Republicans who don’t agree with me politically”
– 5 Time Draft Dodger Biden

“the Cambridge Police acted Stupidly” ” – Beer Summit Gaffe Leader Obama

Last but not least the Democratic map with Republican targets on it. -- DNC

“God Damn America” – Barrack Hussein Obama’s Spiritual Advisor

“We should rip the heart right out of the chest of a former Vice President of The United States!”
– Left Wing Hate Hero And Agitator for Leftist Terrorism – Shultz

:-X
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2011, 08:24:51 AM
Itd only hateful when palin does it.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 08:58:41 AM
I take that as a compliment ;D

oh for sure.. when i try to explain it in those words, my sheer anger takes control and i start cursing. but very well said
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2011, 09:03:52 AM

opinion unchanged.




-NT
That is a sign of idiocy.

Yes, there is definitely a lot of hateful rhetoric in the air lately. For example:


“Don’t you think we’re not keeping score, brother” – Chairman Obama

“Bring it on”- Obama Regime to The American People.

“Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans” – Obama

“I want all Americans to get in each others faces! – Obama

“You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun” – Obama

"Republicans are our enemies"--Obama

“I am going to strangle all Republicans who don’t agree with me politically”
– 5 Time Draft Dodger Biden

“the Cambridge Police acted Stupidly” ” – Beer Summit Gaffe Leader Obama

Last but not least the Democratic map with Republican targets on it. -- DNC

“God Damn America” – Barrack Hussein Obama’s Spiritual Advisor

“We should rip the heart right out of the chest of a former Vice President of The United States!”
– Left Wing Hate Hero And Agitator for Leftist Terrorism – Shultz

:-X


Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2011, 09:22:54 AM
Thid loon had it out for her well before palin was even on the scene. 

Of course basic facts shouldn't get in the way of a palin hate fest by dolts who won't even acknoldge this guy by most measures was a doper leftist. 
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: blacken700 on January 10, 2011, 09:28:54 AM



I suspect video ends Palins political ambitions.




-NT
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 09:30:55 AM
Thid loon had it out for her well before palin was even on the scene. 

Of course basic facts shouldn't get in the way of a palin hate fest by dolts who won't even acknoldge this guy by most measures was a doper leftist. 
how do you know he was a leftist?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: blacken700 on January 10, 2011, 09:35:09 AM
rush and beck told him so  ;D
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2011, 09:35:37 AM
Friends tweeted that he was a radical and liberal.  Said fav book a commie manifesto.  C
911 ct'er, friends said he hated the bush admn, etc.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2011, 09:39:45 AM
Are Skip and I the only two who think NT is Mons Venus? 
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 09:41:09 AM
how do you know he was a leftist?

just something that says like he was a registered democrat is fine. If he was so far left explain this
The woman he shot a democrat. Who was against like all of the right winged stances

Giffords is pro-choice,

Giffords voted for Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008,[46] and for American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.[47].

 She is a critic of the No Child Left Behind law, viewing it as an unfunded federal mandate. She supports public schools and their improved efficiency

Arizona's 8th Congressional District is one of 10 in the country bordering Mexico. Giffords has stated that the Arizona SB1070 legislation is a "clear calling that the federal government needs to do a better job"[55] and saying that she hopes the legislation acts as a wake up call to the federal government. However, she stopped short of supporting the law itself, saying that it "does nothing to secure our border" and that it "stands in direct contradiction to our past and, as a result, threatens our future." She also claimed that SB1070 kept Arizona from attracting students and businesses.[56]
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
Friends tweeted that he was a radical and liberal.  Said fav book a commie manifesto.  C
911 ct'er, friends said he hated the bush admn, etc.

just something that says like he was a registered democrat is fine. If he was so far left explain this
The woman he shot a democrat. Who was against like all of the right winged stances

Giffords is pro-choice,

Giffords voted for Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008,[46] and for American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.[47].

 She is a critic of the No Child Left Behind law, viewing it as an unfunded federal mandate. She supports public schools and their improved efficiency

Arizona's 8th Congressional District is one of 10 in the country bordering Mexico. Giffords has stated that the Arizona SB1070 legislation is a "clear calling that the federal government needs to do a better job"[55] and saying that she hopes the legislation acts as a wake up call to the federal government. However, she stopped short of supporting the law itself, saying that it "does nothing to secure our border" and that it "stands in direct contradiction to our past and, as a result, threatens our future." She also claimed that SB1070 kept Arizona from attracting students and businesses.[56]
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 09:46:52 AM


She's quite moderate in the ranks of Democrats these days. For one, she's in favor of putting soldiers on the border and she did not vote for Pelosi as minority leader. It's just as likely this guy was a disenchanted liberal who was upset that his congressman was not liberal enough.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
see.. now if you would say he is just a crazy fucked up kid. it would be alright.. but the way you see the world is only left and right.. beause you are a retarded idiot.. oh my bad i cant say retarded
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 10:09:56 AM
She's quite moderate in the ranks of Democrats these days. For one, she's in favor of putting soldiers on the border and she did not vote for Pelosi as minority leader. It's just as likely this guy was a disenchanted liberal who was upset that his congressman was not liberal enough.

or he was just batshit.. we are giving dude too much credit.. Fuck... he was just a crazy misguided fuck .. didnt get marching orders from anyone but the crazy shit in his head.. but na.. we gotta make this about his political leanings and boom.. democrats made him do it.. fuckin sickening
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 10:12:12 AM
or he was just batshit.. we are giving dude too much credit.. Fuck... he was just a crazy misguided fuck .. didnt get marching orders from anyone but the crazy shit in his head.. but na.. we gotta make this about his political leanings and boom.. democrats made him do it.. fuckin sickening


It was the fucking democrats that started the political shit before the guy was even ID'd. LOL.

Look at the original thread on this topic for a good example. I don't think the event was 20 minutes old before 240 and co. started parroting what the MSM were saying.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 10, 2011, 10:14:12 AM
I don't think the guys politics have much to do with it.  Him having left leanings and even attending her previous events.....most likely he was fixated on her, he's a an f'n nutjob and both sides need to shut the fuck up about how it was in any way "political" in nature.  The sheriff needs to shut his piehole too......  blabbering on about rhetoric causing it, is only going to add fuel to the fire.  Whatever happened to just trying show calm and control in the situation.  Good for Obama that he seems to be taking that approach.  I like that.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: MM2K on January 10, 2011, 10:14:41 AM
She's quite moderate in the ranks of Democrats these days. For one, she's in favor of putting soldiers on the border and she did not vote for Pelosi as minority leader. It's just as likely this guy was a disenchanted liberal who was upset that his congressman was not liberal enough.

She must be somewhat moderate if she is serving in Arizona and survived the onslaught last Novermber. Oh, Im sorry, am I not allowed to say "onslaught"?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 10:17:12 AM
It was the fucking democrats that started the political shit before the guy was even ID'd. LOL.

Look at the original thread on this topic for a good example. I don't think the event was 20 minutes old before 240 and co. started parroting what the MSM were saying.

Oh sweet Jesus H Christ.. IT DOSENT FUCKING MATTER WHO DID IT OR STARTED IT.. ITS ALL WRONG.. WTF. "well they started it" are you serious with this bullshit..thats why i hate both gay ass parties who look through their political party affiliations goggles before they make an easy ass decision.. i swear im gonna move to fuckin iceland or some shit.. this shit is utterly retarded
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 10:21:16 AM
Oh sweet Jesus H Christ.. IT DOSENT FUCKING MATTER WHO DID IT OR STARTED IT.. ITS ALL WRONG.. WTF. "well they started it" are you serious with this bullshit..thats why i hate both gay ass parties who look through their political party affiliations goggles before they make an easy ass decision.. i swear im gonna move to fuckin iceland or some shit.. this shit is utterly retarded

I don't agree with it but "well, they started it" is perfectly viable as an argument. The left wasted NO TIME going right at the throat of the right and then when it turned out that they jumped the gun it's not surprising that the right took the opportunity to swing back. Maybe if the leftists had kept their raging hard-ons under control and gathered information on the situation before spouting their divisive, hate-mongering rhetoric this whole situation could have been avoided. Instead they chose to come roaring out the gate at 5000 mph and they haven't looked back since. In-fact, they appear to be stepping up the fear-mongering now in an effort to squash any talk of this guy being a liberal.

Disgusting.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: newmom on January 10, 2011, 10:29:39 AM
Should we blame jodi foster for hinkley shooting reagan? 

and I'm no Palin fan, but I agree. Palin should of thought before she posted that, but COME ON, she had no clue some nutcase would go on a killing spree
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: MM2K on January 10, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
Oh sweet Jesus H Christ.. IT DOSENT FUCKING MATTER WHO DID IT OR STARTED IT.. ITS ALL WRONG.. WTF. "well they started it" are you serious with this bullshit..thats why i hate both gay ass parties who look through their political party affiliations goggles before they make an easy ass decision.. i swear im gonna move to fuckin iceland or some shit.. this shit is utterly retarded

Im going to ask you the same question that I asked in another thread. Do you hear ANYONE from the right blaming the left for this killing even though the initial evidence is pointing to the killer as a liberal? NO. The left is blaming the right for this killing. Do you not expect the right to respond when it is being slandered like this? Come on man. It has to respond, or the charges against the right will stick because of the political apathy of people such as yourself.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 10, 2011, 10:41:18 AM
Im going to ask you the same question that I asked in another thread. Do you hear ANYONE from the right blaming the left for this killing even though the initial evidence is pointing to the killer as a liberal? NO. The left is blaming the right for this killing. Do you not expect the right to respond when it is being slandered like this? Come on man. It has to respond, or the charges against the right will stick because of the political apathy of people such as yourself.


IM TALKING ABOUT EVERYONE.. Dems are fucking sick assholes for coming out of their heads talking about he was a right winged guy. But when the guy starts a thread talking about the political rhetoric and its role i guess.. and less than 10 posts in 3333 has to bring obamas name it it.. its just distasteful. then he tops it off with the "he was a liberal" shit too.. like seriously.. so both are to blame.. the left the right.. wtf. Maybe im just wrong in thinking this was supposed to be one America.. This country has become a fucking GOTCHA society when it comes to politics.. Both sides hope the other side fuck up.. no matter the toll it takes on American people.. as long as our "side" wins.. Hoping for shit to fail.. like "are you serious.. thats what you hope for the country and countrymen?" Taking tally and shit.. shit is fucking gay.  like seriously..gayer then pink rubber coated dumbbells.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: MM2K on January 10, 2011, 10:59:11 AM

IM TALKING ABOUT EVERYONE.. Dems are fucking sick assholes for coming out of their heads talking about he was a right winged guy. But when the guy starts a thread talking about the political rhetoric and its role i guess.. and less than 10 posts in 3333 has to bring obamas name it it.. its just distasteful. then he tops it off with the "he was a liberal" shit too.. like seriously.. so both are to blame.. the left the right.. wtf. Maybe im just wrong in thinking this was supposed to be one America.. This country has become a fucking GOTCHA society when it comes to politics.. Both sides hope the other side fuck up.. no matter the toll it takes on American people.. as long as our "side" wins.. Hoping for shit to fail.. like "are you serious.. thats what you hope for the country and countrymen?" Taking tally and shit.. shit is fucking gay.  like seriously..gayer then pink rubber coated dumbbells.

3333 is just trying to show the absurdity of blaming political rhetoric on the killings. He is just wondering why its ok for Obama to make references to hand to hand combat, but Sarah Palin gets blamed for having targets on a political map. And if you pay more attention to politics, I think you will find it is the left that tries to one up the other side a lot more. As I said in another thread, poltiics is a religiin for the left. Its not a religion for the right.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 11:43:45 AM
Let NT be clear, Sarah Palin didn't pull the trigger. (literally) She just painted the bulls-eye on Giffords' back.

No different than the people who set up websites targeting abortion doctors.

Nudge any crazy and consequences could be deadly.




-NT
lol or ppl who call others the "enemy" or terrorists/hostage takers or nazis...right NT?

do you have a problem with that rhetoric?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 11:44:54 AM
we don't know why the shooter did what he did.

it might have been due to the list, or maybe not.

however, it's not the first time this happened.  Another guy on the list had his gas line cut (his brother's gas line actually, the tea party guy admitted he got the house wrong).
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 11:46:36 AM
I've yet to see someone actually provide any sort of information showing this guy had tea party ties. There's a mountain of evidence pointing to him being a lefty (like working for her campaign TWICE) but there isn't a single thing that's popped up to show he's a Tea Party member.

Now I know the MSM isn't big on actually digging up facts and evidence but one would think something would have popped up by now. They've got his forum accounts, his youtube and myspace accounts, people from class talking about him and yet nothing has tied this guy to the tea party.  :-X

we don't know why the shooter did what he did.

it might have been due to the list, or maybe not.

however, it's not the first time this happened.  Another guy on the list had his gas line cut (his brother's gas line actually, the tea party guy admitted he got the house wrong).

How about you provide some proof that it was due to the list? Come on, let's see some hard evidence that would warrant entertaining the idea that the list was a factor.

You've been arguing that list angle for 48 hours now and you've yet to provide a single piece of information pointing to him being a tea party member or even a fan of Palin, for that matter.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tu_holmes on January 10, 2011, 11:51:47 AM
I've yet to see someone actually provide any sort of information showing this guy had tea party ties. There's a mountain of evidence pointing to him being a lefty (like working for her campaign TWICE) but there isn't a single thing that's popped up to show he's a Tea Party member.

Now I know the MSM isn't big on actually digging up facts and evidence but one would think something would have popped up by now. They've got his forum accounts, his youtube and myspace accounts, people from class talking about him and yet nothing has tied this guy to the tea party.  :-X

How about you provide some proof that it was due to the list? Come on, let's see some hard evidence that would warrant entertaining the idea that the list was a factor.

You've been arguing that list angle for 48 hours now and you've yet to provide a single piece of information pointing to him being a tea party member or even a fan of Palin, for that matter.

I don't understand the whole pointing of fingers on any front.

Crazy is CRAZY!

Didn't we at one time think that crazy people were fucking nuts? What happened to that stance?

If you're crazy, the only things you're listening to is the voices in your own head... Dude was fucking CRAZY.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 11:53:45 AM
I don't understand the whole pointing of fingers on any front.

Crazy is CRAZY!

Didn't we at one time think that crazy people were fucking nuts? What happened to that stance?

If you're crazy, the only things you're listening to is the voices in your own head... Dude was fucking CRAZY.

I agree. And no doubt 240 will chime in that he also agrees...and then he'll follow that up with another 2 dozen posts talking about how Palin's list made him do it.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 11:56:48 AM
How about you provide some proof that it was due to the list? Come on, let's see some hard evidence that would warrant entertaining the idea that the list was a factor.

Why would I do that?  I already said WE DO NOT KNOW if it was related to the list.

we don't know why the shooter did what he did.

it might have been due to the list, or maybe not.

It could just be, the guy had his own reasons and decided to shoot someone who happened to be on palin's targeted list.  It's possible.  She shouldn't have taken it down, especially if it was indeed mapmaking surveyer tools being used, and not gun crosshairs.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 11:58:09 AM
Why would I do that?  I already said WE DO NOT KNOW if it was related to the list.

It could just be, the guy had his own reasons and decided to shoot someone who happened to be on palin's targeted list.  It's possible.  She shouldn't have taken it down, especially if it was indeed mapmaking surveyer tools being used, and not gun crosshairs.

Yet you won't shut up with your allusions to the list being the cause. Do you really think we're too stupid to see what you're doing?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
Yet you won't shut up with your allusions to the list being the cause. Do you really think we're too stupid to see what you're doing?

No different than others arguing what's most PLAUSIBLE in this case.

We don't have the facts.  He might have been wearing an Obama tattoo.  He might have had romney dollars in his wallet.  Or he used the palin target.  Or none of these. 

We dunno the facts dude.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:01:08 PM
240 continually brings the list up, doesnt mention obamas calling the reps the enemy, hostage takes/terrorists but always the list...

but hey he just wants all the rhetoric to stop  ::)
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:02:20 PM
No different than others arguing what's most PLAUSIBLE in this case.

We don't have the facts.  He might have been wearing an Obama tattoo.  He might have had romney dollars in his wallet.  Or he used the palin target.  Or none of these. 

We dunno the facts dude.
agreed so quit bringing up palin  ;)
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:03:47 PM
240 continually brings the list up, doesnt mention obamas calling the reps the enemy, hostage takes/terrorists but always the list...

but hey he just wants all the rhetoric to stop  ::)

hit lists with names - that's some dangerous shit.  if palin had just pointed at districts, or just listed the repubs she wanted, i'd be cool with that.

isntead. she put up targets with people's names on it.


AND WHATS MORE......

After one of the dudes on the list had a gas line cut in an attempt to kill his ass.... she STILL DIDNT TAKE THE LIST DOWN.

that's irresponsible.  Hey babygirl, some dude and his famly almost got blowed up cause of your damn list.  Maybe putting their names is a bad idea, huh?

She left up the list until someone actually got shot in the head before deciding it was in bad taste.  That's the issue.  She had warning her list was putting lives at risk, and she left it up.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 12:05:44 PM
240 continually brings the list up, doesnt mention obamas calling the reps the enemy, hostage takes/terrorists but always the list...

but hey he just wants all the rhetoric to stop  ::)

Don't worry, he'll give us some excuse about how he's "objective" and just throwing ideas out and then he'll go back to focusing 99% of his posts on the list.

Political discussions would be a lot more interesting if people approached their arguments from a scientific viewpoint instead of the "let me repeat something enough so that eventually people accept it to be true" viewpoint.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tu_holmes on January 10, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
hit lists with names - that's some dangerous shit.  if palin had just pointed at districts, or just listed the repubs she wanted, i'd be cool with that.

isntead. she put up targets with people's names on it.


AND WHATS MORE......

After one of the dudes on the list had a gas line cut in an attempt to kill his ass.... she STILL DIDNT TAKE THE LIST DOWN.

that's irresponsible.  Hey babygirl, some dude and his famly almost got blowed up cause of your damn list.  Maybe putting their names is a bad idea, huh?

She left up the list until someone actually got shot in the head before deciding it was in bad taste.  That's the issue.  She had warning her list was putting lives at risk, and she left it up.

I do agree it's in poor taste, but she never pulled a trigger... Let's be honest about this.

Is Sarah Palin some genius?... No.

Did she put up a hit list?... Yes.

Was her "list" simply the best way of her identifying people who she thought were "bad politicians"?... Yes.

Did she really mean for anyone to get killed?.... No.

Sarah didn't kill anyone... She's an instigator... That's about it.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:08:58 PM
hit lists with names - that's some dangerous shit.  if palin had just pointed at districts, or just listed the repubs she wanted, i'd be cool with that.

isntead. she put up targets with people's names on it.


AND WHATS MORE......

After one of the dudes on the list had a gas line cut in an attempt to kill his ass.... she STILL DIDNT TAKE THE LIST DOWN.

that's irresponsible.  Hey babygirl, some dude and his famly almost got blowed up cause of your damn list.  Maybe putting their names is a bad idea, huh?

She left up the list until someone actually got shot in the head before deciding it was in bad taste.  That's the issue.  She had warning her list was putting lives at risk, and she left it up.
as is calling repbulicans the enemy and terrorist/hostage takers, nazis, saying they want you do die...

but you dont continually bring those up...

as youve stated you have no idea if palins list had anything to do with it, so any of obamas hateful comments as well as any other dems could be responsible but you always seem to leave those out, why is that?

like you said we dont have the facts so if youre going to speculate lets be unbiased about it...and say that it could have been all hateful rhetoric and list the ones especially from prominent figures such as the potus and speaker as well
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:09:54 PM
I do agree it's in poor taste, but she never pulled a trigger... Let's be honest about this.

Is Sarah Palin some genius?... No.

Did she put up a hit list?... Yes.

Was her "list" simply the best way of her identifying people who she thought were "bad politicians"?... Yes.

Did she really mean for anyone to get killed?.... No.

Sarah didn't kill anyone... She's an instigator... That's about it.
agreed, as is every politician the president included

so if youre going to condemn one, condemn all actions

dont point to one and say this is bad, while intentionally leaving others out
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
I do agree it's in poor taste, but she never pulled a trigger... Let's be honest about this.

Is Sarah Palin some genius?... No.

Did she put up a hit list?... Yes.

Was her "list" simply the best way of her identifying people who she thought were "bad politicians"?... Yes.

Did she really mean for anyone to get killed?.... No.

Sarah didn't kill anyone... She's an instigator... That's about it.

Now this is an objective response. 240, take notes on how it's done.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:10:34 PM
someone on her list was previously targeted for death - along with their fmaily - but the damn thing didn't explode like the tea party member intended.


That alone should have told her to take down the list.

I wonder why she didnt?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Kazan on January 10, 2011, 12:11:08 PM
hit lists with names - that's some dangerous shit.  if palin had just pointed at districts, or just listed the repubs she wanted, i'd be cool with that.

isntead. she put up targets with people's names on it.


AND WHATS MORE......

After one of the dudes on the list had a gas line cut in an attempt to kill his ass.... she STILL DIDNT TAKE THE LIST DOWN.

that's irresponsible.  Hey babygirl, some dude and his famly almost got blowed up cause of your damn list.  Maybe putting their names is a bad idea, huh?

She left up the list until someone actually got shot in the head before deciding it was in bad taste.  That's the issue.  She had warning her list was putting lives at risk, and she left it up.

 Dude please, the guy was a lunatic, for all we know, he though his dog told him to do it. Again what is the deal with trying to blame everything under the sun other then the guy behind the trigger? Maybe he wasn't breast fed as a baby, maybe he was pissed Seinfeld went off the air. The deranged mind doesn't play by the same rules as the rest of us. Show some respect for the dead and injured, and give it a rest
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:11:56 PM
All I'm saying is this.....

When 1 of the 20 on the list was targeted, she left the list up.  Irresponsible.  Agreed?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Kazan on January 10, 2011, 12:12:27 PM
someone on her list was previously targeted for death - along with their fmaily - but the damn thing didn't explode like the tea party member intended.


That alone should have told her to take down the list.

I wonder why she didnt?

Ok I'll bite, where is the article or whatever source that the TEA party was behind this? Never heard anything about it in the news or other wise.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Danny on January 10, 2011, 12:13:14 PM
Ok I'll bite, where is the article or whatever source that the TEA party was behind this? Never heard anything about it in the news or other wise.

Nobody said the Tea Party was behind this.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Kazan on January 10, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
All I'm saying is this.....

When 1 of the 20 on the list was targeted, she left the list up.  Irresponsible.  Agreed?

One has nothing to do with the other, the guy had worked on Gifford campaign in the past, I believe around 2007 before anyone knew who Sarah Palin was.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 12:15:16 PM
One has nothing to do with the other, the guy had worked on Gifford campaign in the past, I believe around 2007 before anyone knew who Sarah Palin was.

Stop it with the facts!
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:18:04 PM
someone on her list was previously targeted for death - along with their fmaily - but the damn thing didn't explode like the tea party member intended.


That alone should have told her to take down the list.

I wonder why she didnt?
LOL wasnt that disconnected by the guys brother or brother in law?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Kazan on January 10, 2011, 12:19:24 PM
Nobody said the Tea Party was behind this.

Better read 240's post again:

Quote
someone on her list was previously targeted for death - along with their fmaily - but the damn thing didn't explode like the tea party member intended.




Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:19:36 PM
All I'm saying is this.....

When 1 of the 20 on the list was targeted, she left the list up.  Irresponsible.  Agreed?
agreed just as irresponsible as calling those who disagree with you politcally the "enemy" and calling for hand to hand combat...calling other hostage takers and terrorists

but you dont bring that up in any of your posts

why is that?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:23:00 PM
Better read 240's post again:





LOL if i remember correctly it was disconnected by the guys brother or brother in law the day before or something
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 10, 2011, 12:23:07 PM
agreed just as irresponsible as calling those who disagree with you politcally the "enemy" and calling for hand to hand combat...calling other hostage takers and terrorists

but you dont bring that up in any of your posts

why is that?

QFT
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:32:24 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34934.html
'
Law enforcement authorities are investigating the discovery of a cut propane gas line at the Virginia home of Rep. Thomas Perriello’s (D-Va.) brother, whose address was targeted by tea party activists angry at the congressman’s vote for the health care bill.


An aide to the congressman confirmed to POLITICO that a line to a propane tank behind his brother's home near Charlottesville had been sliced.


The FBI would not disclose the details of the incident but said that they have been to the home.

His name was also on the palin list.  She should have pulled the list after this incident.

Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:33:45 PM
someone on her list was previously targeted for death - along with their fmaily - but the damn thing didn't explode like the tea party member intended.


That alone should have told her to take down the list.

I wonder why she didnt?
laughing my ass off the guy was on many ppls list as a matter of they didnt get his brothers address from palin rather another guy...

" Mike Troxel, an organizer for the Lynchburg Tea Party, posted on his blog what he thought was the congressman’s address, encouraging tea party activists to “drop by.”"

but hey its still palins fault right?

still looking at this b/c i swear i remember the guy saying that he had disconnected the line from his propane tank to his grill(not his house) himself
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:34:21 PM
LOL just so you know that quote was from the same link you just posted...

funny how you left that out  ::)
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:35:11 PM
what were the findings of the FBI investigation 240?
i thought i remember them saying that the guy disconnected it himself a day or two earlier...
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Hedgehog on January 10, 2011, 12:37:36 PM
All I'm saying is this.....

When 1 of the 20 on the list was targeted, she left the list up.  Irresponsible.  Agreed?

Instead of making Sarah Palin the scapegoat, why not realize that she's a creature of a certain political culture.

How the hell has she been treated btw.

Some nasty assaults on her family affairs that should've never been an issue.

The issue isn't Sarah Palin. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or Olbermann.

It's the political environment as a whole.

The biggest players are those who have the biggest responsibility.

So Obama, Steele, Limbaugh, Boehner, Beck, O'Reilly, Olbermann, Rahm Emanuel, Clinton, CNN, FOX, CBS, MSNBC. You get the point.

They all need to be leaders right now. Looks like at least Boehner and Olbermann have hinted they will do something along those lines.

Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:40:40 PM
Instead of making Sarah Palin the scapegoat, why not realize that she's a creature of a certain political culture.

How the hell has she been treated btw.

Some nasty assaults on her family affairs that should've never been an issue.

The issue isn't Sarah Palin. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or Olbermann.

It's the political environment as a whole.

The biggest players are those who have the biggest responsibility.

So Obama, Steele, Limbaugh, Boehner, Beck, O'Reilly, Olbermann, Rahm Emanuel, Clinton, CNN, FOX, CBS, MSNBC. You get the point.

They all need to be leaders right now. Looks like at least Boehner and Olbermann have hinted they will do something along those lines.
exactly, lets call them all out

instead of just palin...
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:47:05 PM
The latest news from the opponents of health care reform who like to suggest that supporters should suffer for their transgressions: A day after two Virginia Tea Party activists posted the address of the brother of a congressman who voted for the bill, authorities discovered that someone had severed a gas line at the man’s home.

According to The Daily Progress of Charlottesville, Va., Danville Tea Party leader Nigel Coleman was one of the two people who posted the address of Bo Perriello, the older brother of U.S. Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Ivy), who voted for the health care bill. “This is Rep. Thomas Stuart Perriello’s home address,” Coleman wrote Monday, going on to suggest that others who oppose the health care bill “drop by” and “express their thanks.” He added, “I ain’t holding back no more.”

According to the Politico website, Coleman, upon learning he had posted the wrong address, said on a blog: “Do you mean I posted his brother’s address on my Facebook? Oh well, collateral damage.”

Told by The Daily Progress of the severing of the line that connected a propane tank to a grill on Perriello’s screened-in porch, Coleman said he was “shocked” and “almost speechless.” He claimed innocently that he was against violence, and in any case wasn’t sure that the attack, which is under FBI investigation, was related to his post.



And she LEFT the dudes name on the list!@!!  WTF??????????
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:48:10 PM
exactly, lets call them all out

instead of just palin...

AGREED!!!  Anyone who posts a list of names is WRONG.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:49:34 PM
LOL what did the investigation find?

and she didnt post his address 240

he was on many ppls lists the one that posted the address had nothing to do with palin
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:50:50 PM
AGREED!!!  Anyone who posts a list of names is WRONG.
and what of the hateful rhetoric from obama, pelosi, gracen etc...

is that wrong as well?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
palin should have said "wow, this guy is from a district where people cut gas lines... maybe i won't put him on my list and put him in greater danger"

At this point, you are simply defending a list of people covered with targets.  It's that simple.  we have no evidence she caused this one.  But you are defending what is figuratively and essentially a HIT LIST.

Any politician who has the poor judgement to list public servants with targets over them is a moron.  period.  that's it.  No matter the party.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 10, 2011, 12:54:52 PM
palin should have said "wow, this guy is from a district where people cut gas lines... maybe i won't put him on my list and put him in greater danger"

At this point, you are simply defending a list of people covered with targets.  It's that simple.  we have no evidence she caused this one.  But you are defending what is figuratively and essentially a HIT LIST.

Any politician who has the poor judgement to list public servants with targets over them is a moron.  period.  that's it.  No matter the party.
Im not defending anything...im getting the facts straight dumb ass...

palins list had nothing to do with that guys brother, who I assume they found nothing in the investigation to back up your stance since you didnt post anything....

again and what of others that call political opponents "enemies", terrorists, and tells their constituents to prepare for hand to hand combat?

LOL right now all youre doing is being biased as all ways...
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Hedgehog on January 10, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
The latest news from the opponents of health care reform who like to suggest that supporters should suffer for their transgressions: A day after two Virginia Tea Party activists posted the address of the brother of a congressman who voted for the bill, authorities discovered that someone had severed a gas line at the man’s home.


That is, of course, just totally unacceptable.


If it is true.


Source?

But I think both sides needs to focus on what they're doing themselves instead of trying to stop the OTHERS.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Fury on January 10, 2011, 12:58:51 PM
Im not defending anything...im getting the facts straight dumb ass...

palins list had nothing to do with that guys brother, who I assume they found nothing in the investigation to back up your stance since you didnt post anything....

again and what of others that call political opponents "enemies", terrorists, and tells their constituents to prepare for hand to hand combat?

LOL right now all youre doing is being biased as all ways...

240 is a pro at lying through his teeth. For proof, just see the "North Korea launched missiles at Hawaii" story.

The fact he's not responding to your question for the results of the investigation all but tell you that his story is bullshit.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2011, 01:19:32 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34934.html
'
Law enforcement authorities are investigating the discovery of a cut propane gas line at the Virginia home of Rep. Thomas Perriello’s (D-Va.) brother, whose address was targeted by tea party activists angry at the congressman’s vote for the health care bill.


An aide to the congressman confirmed to POLITICO that a line to a propane tank behind his brother's home near Charlottesville had been sliced.


The FBI would not disclose the details of the incident but said that they have been to the home.

His name was also on the palin list.  She should have pulled the list after this incident.




Funny you never mentioned the dirty tricks that were played on Lt. Col. West by Klein n releasing his SS Number, and all sorts of private infor, or the shooting of Cantors' HQ, etc etc.

Wonder why?   
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2011, 01:22:31 PM
Equally as dangerous in inciting violence is this map by the Democrat Leadership Committee in 2004.  The Democrats have the market cornered when it comes to fear mongering and dangerous rhetoric.


Also check out the Democrat Leadership Committee target list, again, on which Giffords was listed.
(http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-25.png)



So much for Palin being the only one with "targets" on her maps.


Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: dario73 on January 10, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
From 2004. Democrats wrote the book on "dangerous rhetoric".

This online article was back in March of 2010. Showing how stupid Democrats were for criticizing Palin when they themselves did the following back in 2004:

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647


Democratic Leadership Committe TARGET list:

(http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010/03/DCCC-target-map.jpg)

Each one of those red targets represents a “Targeted Republican” like this one:
(http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010/03/DCCC-targeted-republican.jpg)

There’s even a helpful legend that makes it clear that’s precisely what the little red targets represent:
(http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010/03/DCCC-map-legend.jpg)


Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: 240 is Back on January 10, 2011, 01:48:27 PM

Funny you never mentioned the dirty tricks that were played on Lt. Col. West by Klein n releasing his SS Number, and all sorts of private infor, or the shooting of Cantors' HQ, etc etc.
Wonder why?   

???

Remember when that d-bag hacked and posted palin's email?  I said his ass belonged in prison.  Care to bet your account and make it worth my search?  ;)

And anyone who posted that info or shot at an office - they belong in prison too.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Benny B on January 10, 2011, 03:41:04 PM
Funny how the lefties ignore Berzerk's post:

Because he is a moron an a self-loathing Jew Boy?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2011, 03:44:35 PM
Coming from step n fetch it himself.  Lol.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tu_holmes on January 10, 2011, 05:37:43 PM
agreed, as is every politician the president included

so if youre going to condemn one, condemn all actions

dont point to one and say this is bad, while intentionally leaving others out

I never said otherwise... I've been highly critical of the words he's used as well.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Skip8282 on January 10, 2011, 07:30:51 PM
Because he is a moron an a self-loathing Jew Boy?



Yeah, you must really be butt-hurt given that a guy you consider a moron has destroyed you in post after post after post.

Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2011, 07:39:42 PM
Because he is a moron an a self-loathing Jew Boy?
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: whork25 on January 11, 2011, 02:01:19 AM
I don't agree with it but "well, they started it" is perfectly viable as an argument. The left wasted NO TIME going right at the throat of the right and then when it turned out that they jumped the gun it's not surprising that the right took the opportunity to swing back. Maybe if the leftists had kept their raging hard-ons under control and gathered information on the situation before spouting their divisive, hate-mongering rhetoric this whole situation could have been avoided. Instead they chose to come roaring out the gate at 5000 mph and they haven't looked back since. In-fact, they appear to be stepping up the fear-mongering now in an effort to squash any talk of this guy being a liberal.

Disgusting.

Here we go again.. Left right left right all said so you can feel you belong to a group so you dont feel lonely. So sad you have all the tools to be a great intelligent and articulate human being but you choose to remain on the evolutionary mental stage of a cave man( Left bad, right goood aarrrgghhh)

 
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 11, 2011, 07:24:07 AM
Left right left right all said so you can feel you belong to a group so you dont feel lonely.

 

you talkin about 333
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2011, 07:26:44 AM
you talkin about 333



 ::)  ::)

Who started ths thread in the first place jack ass? 
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2011, 08:07:16 AM
FLASHBACK: Palin Says ‘When We Take Up Arms, We’re Talking About Our Vote” (video)
Eyeblast TV / The Blast ( Media Research Center) ^ | 1/11/2011 | Joe S.




In March 2010 at a McCain rally, Sarah Palin responds to critics saying “When we take up arms, we’re talking about our votes.”

“We know violence isn’t the answer. When we take up arms, we’re talking about our vote. We’re talking about being involved in a contested primary like this, and picking the right candidate too, John McCain. But this BS coming from the lamestream media lately about us inciting violence, don’t let the conversation be diverted. Don’t let a distraction like that get you offtrack. Keep fighting hard for these candidates who are all about the common sense conservative solutions that we need.”

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.eyeblast.tv ...
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: dario73 on January 11, 2011, 08:13:06 AM
333, anyone with common sense and sound mind knows what Palin meant. It's the left that is too insane to understand.
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: Option D on January 11, 2011, 08:35:11 AM

 ::)  ::)

Who started ths thread in the first place jack ass? 

tha fuck does that have to do with the price of tea in china..
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: newmom on January 11, 2011, 08:41:17 AM
tha fuck does that have to do with the price of tea in china..


LMAO I always use that line
Title: Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
Post by: tonymctones on January 11, 2011, 08:50:55 AM
I never said otherwise... I've been highly critical of the words he's used as well.
I know, i was agreeing lol

computers suck at tone