Chris Aceto on Cardio and Diet

[Deicide]

IMO, it's irrelevant for body composition, I use it as a psychological help only. As far as I can remember, TA also shared that opinion the last time we talked about it, so I would be interested in his current opinion.

Irrelevant for body composition...

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[The True Adonis]

Think of all out feedings as Hormone Replacements for Naturals.

Otherwise Testosterone for one, begins to drop if the all out days are not there.

[Deicide]

Think of all out feedings as Hormone Replacements for Naturals.

Otherwise Testosterone for one, begins to drop if the all out days are not there.

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[wavelength]

Think of all out feedings as Hormone Replacements for Naturals.

Otherwise Testosterone for one, begins to drop if the all out days are not there.

Can you remember the last time we talked about that? AFAIR, you said it's irrelevant. I would be interested what made you change your mind, any new scientific studies or personal experience? Just curious.

[wavelength]

Some more from Chris, this is his reply on how much cardio one should do on a bulk:

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this is him on carb cycling:

Its effective but a lot of bodybuilders start it way too early. Its really helpful towards then end to overcome potential roadblocks you may have. However, at the beginning of a diet, its still the core fundamentlas that are most important; eating fewer total calories each day then the body burns

[Deicide]

Can you remember the last time we talked about that? AFAIR, you said it's irrelevant. I would be interested what made you change your mind, any new scientific studies or personal experience? Just curious.

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[Seijuro]

"A lot's changed in the last 15 years or so in terms of pre contest prep for bodybuilding shows. One of the new mainstays is cardio. The mantra is; cardio burns fat so it should rip you up. But does it? My experience is that there is a happy medium to be followed and it's truly a fine line. Don't do enough and you wont be in shape (possibly...there's always the right diet which can get you there with almost no cardio) Do too much and your muscles lose that "hard" look  and lack  the "pop" and eye catching roundness.

I recently worked with Troy Alves who won the Europa pro show and he did far less cardio then earlier in the year where he was 11th in the Ironman. How did he do it? He did cardio on the right days, at the right intensity and allowed a better diet to strip away the body fat. The end result; his muscles had that "pop" that gave him an edge over the competition.

I am a believer in less food and less cardio. Its sort of the opposite of conventional thinking; more cardio and more food. ... He (Troy) was eating about 2000 calories a day."

Agree. Do lots of cardio and be ready to feel very hungry aswell.

[Seijuro]

too little for optimal growth, even with super high carb intake

I think it's enough for natural and lean growth.

[tbombz]

I think it's enough for natural and lean growth.

it is enough for SOME growth. but not enough for as much growth as possible.

2g per kilo is about right...but adding more wont do anything harmful and will help just a bit

[wavelength]

Here's Chris on the wavelength method of dieting (one large meal and a protein shake):

"Who cares what people really think. I never listen to the herd...but I am lways open to advice and opnions from others. I know people in the middel east who eat one meal a day, ripped full etc...AND have the energy to train hard for an hour a day...so there."

[wavelength]

He also told me that he knows that Serge Nubret used to only eat 1 meal and went to the chinese buffet quite frequently.

[Stavios]

haha I like Chris

[wavelength]

haha I like Chris

Yeah he just recently started a few threads on different boards. Very responsive to questions.

[windsor88]

How many calories do you average a day wavelength?  I find that if I go above 2000 a day I will gain.  I kept dropping and dropping the calories until I found that 1200 to 1500 will keep me good.  With that intake I can definitely binge a few days here and there and not blow up.

[wavelength]

How many calories do you average a day wavelength?  I find that if I go above 2000 a day I will gain.  I kept dropping and dropping the calories until I found that 1200 to 1500 will keep me good.  With that intake I can definitely binge a few days here and there and not blow up.

About 2000-2200 I guess, counting in the weekly pig-out day. At that intake I'm losing weight slowly.
1200-1500 doesn't sound very much, what's your weight?

[windsor88]

About 2000-2200 I guess, counting in the weekly pig-out day. At that intake I'm losing weight slowly.
1200-1500 doesn't sound very much, what's your weight?

I am 175 now.  At 1500 I usually lose around 2 lbs a week.  Sometimes more but I go through long phases where I will eat like shit then when I start seeing myself blow up again I restrict for a few weeks.  I used to weigh about 260.  The best I looked was about 200 with 14% bf.